Valuetainment - September 19, 2025


“Where Was The Joke？” - Did ABC SILENCE Jimmy Kimmel Over Charlie Kirk Murder Claims？


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Jimmy Kimmel has been fired from the ABC sitcom The Late Night with Jimmy Kimmel Live after a controversial comment he made about the death of Charlie Kirk. Rob and Sarah discuss the firing of the late night talk show host and why they think it s a good thing.

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00:00:00.000 On Wednesday afternoon, we get news that ABC has moved on with Jimmy Kimmel.
00:00:04.620 Everybody was shell-shocked.
00:00:05.800 What do you mean they've moved on with Jimmy Kimmel?
00:00:07.680 And then news came out that the reason why this happened is because the FCC,
00:00:13.120 and by the way, it was over these comments.
00:00:14.440 Let's play the clip to what the comments were,
00:00:16.040 and then we'll get into a couple other things.
00:00:17.280 Go ahead, Rob.
00:00:18.600 We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize
00:00:23.480 this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them
00:00:27.520 and doing everything they can to score political points from it.
00:00:31.100 In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving.
00:00:33.820 On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism.
00:00:38.060 But on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this.
00:00:43.000 My condolences on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk.
00:00:45.420 May I ask, sir, personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir?
00:00:49.600 I think very good.
00:00:50.520 And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks?
00:00:53.200 They've just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House,
00:00:56.620 which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years,
00:01:01.120 and it's going to be a beauty.
00:01:03.580 Yes.
00:01:04.660 He's at the fourth stage of grief, construction.
00:01:09.480 Demolition, construction.
00:01:13.880 This is not how an adult grieves the murder of somebody.
00:01:16.600 That comment is made.
00:01:17.580 Stephen A. Smith said something very interesting.
00:01:19.320 He said, look, aren't late-night show hosts supposed to be funny?
00:01:24.220 He says, that's not even funny.
00:01:25.220 So what's funny about that?
00:01:26.980 Like, at least tell a funny joke, right?
00:01:29.380 At least make us laugh.
00:01:30.660 You're not even doing that, which is the most simple question.
00:01:34.040 This is the one.
00:01:34.680 Yeah, 13-second one, Rob.
00:01:35.680 Go for it.
00:01:36.540 The only thing that I would say, as it pertains to Jimmy Kimmel,
00:01:39.380 was where was the joke?
00:01:40.460 Because you're a late-night host.
00:01:41.720 And obviously, that has a comedic attachment to it.
00:01:45.140 Where was the joke?
00:01:46.940 He's right.
00:01:47.580 So your job is to make people laugh.
00:01:49.540 And I've said this for a long time.
00:01:51.600 I have no problem with what, you know, he wants to say.
00:01:55.320 Go be a pundit.
00:01:56.260 Go apply and work at CNN.
00:01:57.820 Go start a podcast and compete with Midas Touch.
00:02:00.860 Go compete with some of the big podcasters.
00:02:03.160 When they had their podcast during COVID, they actually did well.
00:02:06.100 Him and his couple buddies, they had their thing going on.
00:02:09.160 But, man, we want to watch you and we want you to make us laugh.
00:02:11.780 We want you to not get into politics and lose half the audience.
00:02:15.260 Many, many years ago, the great, the one and only Johnny Carson,
00:02:20.460 was asked by Mike Wallace,
00:02:24.060 Hey, what do I do?
00:02:25.420 What do I do as a late-night show host?
00:02:26.940 How come you never talk about politics?
00:02:29.000 And he gave such a simple answer.
00:02:31.480 And this is the interview.
00:02:32.600 Here's the great, the one-of-one.
00:02:34.500 This guy is a one-of-one.
00:02:36.600 There will never be another Johnny Carson.
00:02:38.520 This is what he had to say.
00:02:39.760 People say he'll never take a serious controversy.
00:02:43.140 Well, I have an answer to that.
00:02:45.580 I said, now, tell me the last time that Jack Benny,
00:02:48.540 Red Skelton,
00:02:50.720 Benny, comedian,
00:02:53.420 used his show to do serious issues.
00:02:55.500 That's not what I'm there for.
00:02:57.020 Can't they see that?
00:02:58.820 But you're not...
00:02:59.520 Why do they think that just because you have a tonight show
00:03:02.000 that you must deal in serious issues?
00:03:05.280 That's a danger.
00:03:06.580 It's a real danger.
00:03:07.580 Once you start that, you start to get that self-important feeling
00:03:12.220 that what you say has great import.
00:03:14.220 And, you know, strangely enough, you could use that show as a form.
00:03:16.960 You could sway people.
00:03:18.000 And I don't think you should as an entertainer.
00:03:19.560 Bingo.
00:03:19.840 Wow.
00:03:20.500 Bingo.
00:03:20.820 This is why he's Johnny Carson, right?
00:03:22.860 He's a psychic.
00:03:23.520 So, Tom, can you know some of the things?
00:03:26.320 Maybe walk us through what happened with Disney, Bob Iger.
00:03:29.360 Because, obviously, the story here, when you hear that Bob Iger reaches out,
00:03:32.920 and where's the story about Bob Iger, Rob?
00:03:35.920 That is in the addendum.
00:03:37.760 That is page...
00:03:39.060 Yeah, there's a story that says Bob Iger reached out to...
00:03:42.740 Page 5, unrepentant...
00:03:45.220 Yeah, unrepentant Jimmy Kimmel refused to apologize
00:03:48.100 after Charlie Kirk's outrage and planned to double down
00:03:50.740 on MAGA attack report.
00:03:54.320 This is a New York Post story.
00:03:56.300 Let me read this to you here, and then, Rob,
00:03:58.240 you can go to whatever you got up there with Jesse.
00:04:01.260 Late night, Judge Jimmy Kimmel said to you,
00:04:02.380 he was unwilling to apologize for his remarks
00:04:04.100 that blamed MAGA supporters for killing conservative Charlie Kirk
00:04:06.420 and said he was going to double down on attacking President Trump's backers
00:04:10.980 before he was yanked from air.
00:04:13.160 Kimmel learned in a phone call from top Disney exec Dana Walden
00:04:16.620 on Wednesday afternoon that his show was being removed indefinitely.
00:04:21.000 Deadline reported citing sources.
00:04:22.880 During the call, Kimmel reportedly refused to comply with calls from critics
00:04:27.180 and the owners of dozens of ABC affiliate stations for him to apologize.
00:04:30.840 Kimmel felt his remarks required no apologies.
00:04:33.700 Another source told Hollywood reported that Jimmy Kimmel Live host also claimed
00:04:37.560 that he was planning to call out his critics for the late attack on him
00:04:41.440 all while trying to clarify his comments about Charlie Kirk.
00:04:44.160 Instead, Kimmel had claimed his comments were mischaracterized
00:04:47.120 when he said during a Monday night show, which was the click that we played for you.
00:04:52.160 Tom, your thoughts on this.
00:04:53.540 So there's a quick backstory.
00:04:55.080 Can we do a quick, quick backstory here?
00:04:57.600 So Jimmy Kimmel's contract is up before the end of this year.
00:05:01.660 Yep.
00:05:02.080 And he was getting ready to negotiate.
00:05:04.640 And they were getting ready to not renew him.
00:05:08.840 And here's why.
00:05:09.980 Rob, can you quickly go to the chart?
00:05:12.320 Late night as a category has been unprofitable.
00:05:17.400 These are analysts looking at it, Pat, since 22.
00:05:21.020 Since the bounce out year after COVID, late night has been unprofitable.
00:05:25.780 Look at the ratings here.
00:05:26.980 Kimmel, late show, tonight show.
00:05:28.400 We have a chart right up here.
00:05:29.980 Look at that, Vinny.
00:05:30.740 What is that?
00:05:31.120 You don't need to be a math expert to look at that.
00:05:33.120 And there's a weird time.
00:05:33.860 It's all everybody's watching because it was Trump, 2016 Trump.
00:05:36.720 Everybody took the Trump Trump.
00:05:37.760 And people are done.
00:05:39.040 They're tired.
00:05:39.800 They say in 2022, all of the networks started suffering
00:05:43.120 and saying that their late night, they had giant contracts.
00:05:46.160 Remember, it's not just the host.
00:05:47.480 They have producer contracts.
00:05:48.620 Which one's Fallon, by the way?
00:05:51.000 Late show, right?
00:05:51.840 No, the Tonight Show.
00:05:53.060 Tonight Show.
00:05:53.680 Who's the late show?
00:05:54.500 Colbert?
00:05:54.920 Yes.
00:05:55.380 Okay.
00:05:55.620 Late show.
00:05:56.260 So, Kimmel was, Fallon was number one.
00:06:00.660 Fallon was number one.
00:06:01.820 Barely.
00:06:02.580 He was.
00:06:03.380 He crushed it in 2014, whatever that was.
00:06:06.880 Yeah, he was, because that's right after Leno.
00:06:08.580 You see Leno and then comes Fallon.
00:06:10.540 At least Leno kept going at 0.96, 0.85, 0.85, then shows up 1.01.
00:06:17.200 And then Fallon, year one, is on fire, 1.5 for 1.18, 1.02.
00:06:21.400 And then by year four, he fell below what Leno was and never recovered from it from 17 on.
00:06:26.280 Go ahead, Tom.
00:06:26.620 That's exactly right.
00:06:27.160 So, here's the back story.
00:06:28.540 Late night, unprofitable since 2022.
00:06:30.820 They're about to negotiate with Jimmy Kimmel.
00:06:33.600 And guess what?
00:06:34.880 This gave them the reason they needed.
00:06:38.420 And it was affiliates and advertisers that first went to Iger.
00:06:41.760 And supposedly, as you just covered, Kimmel is going to double down.
00:06:46.100 And Deadline Hollywood and some others were leaking out that some people on the writing staff kind of leaked who are looking for jobs tomorrow, Vinny, right?
00:06:56.000 It's not just the star with the big contract.
00:06:57.900 How many people are around, like a comedy show and stuff?
00:06:59.920 You've got like 12 people, directors, good people with jobs, right?
00:07:04.560 Do they want to protect their jobs?
00:07:06.020 Of course.
00:07:06.460 Might they have whispered upstairs that says, hey, he's about to double down tonight.
00:07:10.460 Yeah, if their job is on the line, too.
00:07:12.200 I don't want to be really part of this.
00:07:14.120 You guys can do it.
00:07:15.380 And what happened was then Iger's people said, dude, you know, you're not doing this.
00:07:19.940 You're not doubling down.
00:07:20.940 And they pulled them off.
00:07:22.480 But everybody runs to First Amendment and all that.
00:07:25.280 This isn't First Amendment.
00:07:26.700 This is an employee gone haywire.
00:07:29.620 And you've got advertisers and other people.
00:07:32.300 So let's put it into our perspective, Pat.
00:07:34.660 You have a company.
00:07:35.720 You're selling things.
00:07:36.700 The customers are upset with the salesperson.
00:07:38.800 The customers are upset with one of your employees.
00:07:41.440 You know what you do?
00:07:42.300 You say, go, wait a minute.
00:07:43.160 Let's look into this.
00:07:44.440 And an employee might get fired or put on the bench for a few minutes.
00:07:48.780 That's what happened here.
00:07:50.280 This was a – and by the way, Chris Cuomo got it right.
00:07:53.060 Last night, Chris Cuomo was saying, hey, he got sideways with this employer and his employer took action.
00:07:59.940 That's what happened.
00:08:00.920 But the big thing, Pat, is ABC and everybody else have been looking for a reason to move these off because as a late night as a category is getting killed by Netflix streaming and alternatives because the new generation doesn't want them.
00:08:17.160 And by the way, Kimmel is 57.
00:08:20.240 Leno, they started talking to him about getting off the air because he wasn't doing good with the demographic when he was 59.
00:08:27.300 And he fought it until he was 63 when they finally pushed him off.
00:08:32.200 I think Vinny has a great idea.
00:08:33.820 Okay?
00:08:34.520 Vinny, you had an idea about what you think who should replace a guy like this for them to test something out.
00:08:39.820 Go ahead.
00:08:40.200 And why not?
00:08:40.940 And thanks.
00:08:41.740 Like, if you guys think about it, it's – Tom, what are you talking about?
00:08:44.720 Words talk and numbers scream.
00:08:46.500 How much louder do those numbers have to punch you in the face?
00:08:50.220 For instance, and I'm happy you did it, in August, Kimmel's ratings was 1.1 million total viewers.
00:08:56.760 Pat, it was down around 1.9 million in January.
00:09:00.220 The key 18 to 49 demographic dropped about 284,000 in June to 129,000.
00:09:06.340 Okay?
00:09:07.100 Nobody's watching.
00:09:08.220 Okay?
00:09:08.500 And you had us read the book Blue Ocean Strategy.
00:09:11.600 For you guys that have – who wrote the book, Pat?
00:09:14.160 W.C. Chen and another lady that we have. 0.98
00:09:17.260 Another girl. 0.96
00:09:17.560 Guys, when people are in the Red Ocean fighting and killing and everything and it's not working,
00:09:22.080 you go to the Blue Ocean where it's clear and you have a different plan.
00:09:25.040 Why not ABC, CBS, all these freaking networks?
00:09:28.600 Try a conservative person that's in the middle that's just funny.
00:09:33.240 The five on the Fox works.
00:09:34.560 Who are you thinking?
00:09:35.480 I don't know.
00:09:37.200 I don't know who it would be.
00:09:38.400 Somebody that's willing to find the Johnny Carson.
00:09:41.700 It's not going to be one of these –
00:09:42.620 I have one guy.
00:09:43.480 Who do you think it would be?
00:09:44.120 Marcelo.
00:09:44.820 I have one guy.
00:09:45.560 My guy, Marcelo Hernandez.
00:09:47.240 The guys, I've been saying this for a minute.
00:09:48.740 Shout out to Marcelo.
00:09:49.160 I remember.
00:09:49.680 I have one guy.
00:09:51.260 I think – and Marcelo's not even a conservative.
00:09:53.140 Marcelo's just a regular guy.
00:09:54.640 Yeah.
00:09:55.080 I have one guy.
00:09:57.020 If you're smart enough to get a guy like him – how old is he, 28?
00:10:01.400 He's 28 years old.
00:10:02.320 You'll have him for 20 years.
00:10:03.480 Now, they're probably going to wait 10 more years until he gets the job.
00:10:05.520 They're probably not going to hire him at 28.
00:10:06.820 Maybe they're going to wait until 38.
00:10:07.860 But if I was a guy, I would start working with him and finding a way for him to become that.
00:10:16.040 He's young.
00:10:16.620 He's funny.
00:10:17.120 He's energetic.
00:10:17.940 He is multifaceted.
00:10:19.680 He gets along with everybody.
00:10:21.420 And he's 28.
00:10:22.620 You have a long ways to go with him.
00:10:24.860 And he literally talks zero politics at all.
00:10:28.000 So you need someone like that.
00:10:29.320 There's no politics tied to this guy.
00:10:31.000 If I bring a late-night show, you know, I think there's a couple of the guys that, you know, I'm a big believer of a lot of these other comedians that are out there.
00:10:40.020 But if I'm doing this and you truly want to go to none, bring a guy that's neutral like him and see how he does, how he performs. 0.57
00:10:47.440 He would be on my top five list if I'm hiring somebody.
00:10:49.540 Oh, and I would look to do it now and go back to what Carson said.
00:10:52.960 I'm not looking for you to be 38 years old and have depth of understanding of all these issues because that's not what I want you to be.
00:10:59.360 Yeah, and mind you, I think, I know, I understand with the waiting, he would crush it right now.
00:11:04.280 Yeah, he would.
00:11:04.600 If they announced that he's there, bro, finally, not the same old white guy that's just like, hey, America sucks, this guy sucks, it's boring.
00:11:11.560 And you know what pissed me off about the whole situation was the selective outrage.
00:11:16.200 And for all those people out there, please just cry me a freaking river.
00:11:20.760 Where was everybody when they fired Tim Allen for being a conservative?
00:11:23.660 Okay, Last Man Standing had some of the highest ratings for years, and they canceled it because of his political affiliation.
00:11:31.440 Okay, who else?
00:11:32.320 Gita Carano, Roseanne Barr, Megyn Kelly, even Jason Whitlock.
00:11:36.220 Megyn Kelly fired for making comments about Halloween costumes.
00:11:39.280 About Halloween costumes.
00:11:40.240 So I don't want to hear anybody, anybody talking about free speech because free speech is free.
00:11:46.700 You can say whatever you want, but there's consequences.
00:11:49.180 My question to you is, if somebody had valutainment, okay, you're a free speech absolutist.
00:11:55.500 If Rob started going out there and just bashing Charlie's family, I hope he, good for him, and falsely, Jimmy Kimmel, falsely claiming that this freaking Tyler guy was a MAGA guy, you have every right under the law to fire him.
00:12:10.300 I would say to him, here's what I would say to him.
00:12:12.640 I said, Rob, you got to apologize.
00:12:15.240 And Rob would apologize.
00:12:16.400 In a heartbeat.
00:12:16.900 And he would say, you know what, you're right.
00:12:18.440 Hey, that was wrong.
00:12:19.500 Can you just say something?
00:12:20.720 And then we move on, right?
00:12:22.480 And for example, like on the last podcast, Eric Bolling here said that Candace hasn't spoke at, what do you call it, at TPUSA for many years.
00:12:33.100 And then a guy sent me a message.
00:12:34.700 I don't follow who speaks at the event.
00:12:36.440 And a guy sent me a message saying, hey, she did speak at the event.
00:12:39.580 Oh, okay, she did speak.
00:12:40.460 So correction on what Eric said.
00:12:42.060 She actually did speak in June of 24.
00:12:44.600 I thought she spoke in 23 because she was pregnant last year. 0.90
00:12:47.680 So she did speak in June of 2024 at Turning Point USA.
00:12:51.660 When you do go through it and somebody gets it wrong, all you have to say is, hey, this is what happened here.
00:12:56.920 So if Rob all of a sudden is like, no, I'm not going to apologize.
00:13:00.300 Rob, I'm sorry, buddy.
00:13:01.500 That was, the guy's family died.
00:13:03.940 He died.
00:13:04.460 And you're literally blaming somebody.
00:13:06.200 What are you talking about?
00:13:07.340 I'm not going to do it.
00:13:08.400 Dude, listen, I'm sorry, man.
00:13:09.520 This company is not for you.
00:13:10.540 Go to a different place.
00:13:11.460 That's all it is.
00:13:12.540 It's not a, listen, ain't nobody going to get everything right 100%.
00:13:19.400 I didn't want Jimmy to get fired.
00:13:21.600 I just wanted Jimmy to, you know, there comes a time in your life, honestly, where I think you pay attention to politics more.
00:13:30.200 And you choose a position that doesn't necessarily happen in your 20s like it did with Charlie and a lot of younger Gen Z.
00:13:36.540 They're going to rock the world for decades to come.
00:13:40.080 Watch what Gen Z conservative kids are going to do the next 10, 20, 30 years.
00:13:44.920 Just watch.
00:13:45.500 We're going to witness what this generation is going to do because of Charlie.
00:13:49.480 But to me, when do you start really caring about politics?
00:13:52.380 When you start making money.
00:13:53.660 When do you start caring about politics?
00:13:54.920 When you have kids, family, grant.
00:13:56.720 When do you start really caring about politics?
00:13:58.080 When do you start paying really a lot of taxes?
00:13:59.520 When you start caring about politics, when you're around a lot of other people that are feeding you whatever, he's in it, right?
00:14:05.440 Of course.
00:14:05.980 But if you want to talk politics, Jimmy, and just say, you know, it would have been more honorable to say, look, I'm at a phase of my life that I think comedy's changed my life.
00:14:17.940 And I'm a comedian first.
00:14:19.820 But honestly, I've been sitting with my friends and family and a lot of people that I respect.
00:14:24.460 And they're telling me, Jimmy, you're talking too much politics every night and it's no longer comedy.
00:14:28.640 And I agree.
00:14:29.900 And this is why I've chosen to go and move away from this.
00:14:33.600 And I want to go out there and start talking about issues that matter to me.
00:14:36.800 If he would have done that, guess what you say?
00:14:38.980 You know what?
00:14:39.700 Fair.
00:14:40.140 Fair.
00:14:40.480 Fair enough.
00:14:40.980 Go start your podcast.
00:14:42.100 Go to CNN.
00:14:42.720 Go to MSNBC.
00:14:43.660 Go somewhere.
00:14:44.540 But your job is to make people laugh.
00:14:46.680 When is actually the last time you watched a late night show from beginning to the end?
00:14:52.940 Honestly.
00:14:53.380 No, no.
00:14:54.200 Zero.
00:14:54.960 When was the last time?
00:14:55.820 Can I be honest with you?
00:14:56.900 I don't think I ever.
00:14:57.680 I think I have watched the full ones of Johnny Carson.
00:15:01.900 Just the whole thing.
00:15:03.180 I watched Leno.
00:15:03.960 Okay.
00:15:04.480 I never watched.
00:15:04.940 For years.
00:15:05.440 Okay.
00:15:06.120 I watched Leno.
00:15:07.380 And by the way, I liked Fallon at the beginning.
00:15:09.980 Oh, my God.
00:15:10.420 He was funny.
00:15:11.500 He would dance.
00:15:12.380 He would sing.
00:15:13.080 Justin Timberlake would come up.
00:15:14.420 It was awesome.
00:15:15.880 It was great.
00:15:17.200 It was fantastic, right?
00:15:20.000 This is a great business model of America.
00:15:23.380 What we need right now, believe it or not, Vinny, we really do need comedy right now.
00:15:28.000 And I know this sounds weird.
00:15:29.540 We need comedy right now.
00:15:31.020 We need to laugh right now.
00:15:32.460 The business of laughing should do very well today.
00:15:35.400 It should be great.
00:15:36.640 People should be seeking it.
00:15:38.240 You make a couple animal videos.
00:15:40.800 One of them gets 30 million views.
00:15:42.580 44 now.
00:15:43.560 44 million views in animal video.
00:15:45.920 You want to see one of them?
00:15:46.980 Can you pull up one of these videos?
00:15:48.460 Rob, I'll tell you.
00:15:49.060 Go to popular.
00:15:51.120 Go to popular.
00:15:52.080 I've always liked that.
00:15:52.900 The first one, man.
00:15:53.480 The first one with the monkey running down.
00:15:55.480 Watch this.
00:15:56.300 Oh, is this the one?
00:15:56.900 He's fighting with his wife.
00:15:57.880 Watch this.
00:15:58.360 Oh, wait a minute.
00:15:59.000 Watch.
00:15:59.540 I don't know if this.
00:16:00.160 Got to be careful.
00:16:01.000 He's not even doing anything.
00:16:02.720 So who is that?
00:16:03.240 Your girlfriend?
00:16:04.860 She's cute. 0.95
00:16:06.540 What?
00:16:06.940 I was being polite.
00:16:08.620 Pause it right there.
00:16:09.160 Pause it.
00:16:10.040 Watch this.
00:16:10.480 They're arguing.
00:16:10.960 How many likes?
00:16:13.380 942,000 likes.
00:16:14.880 How many views?
00:16:16.120 40 million.
00:16:17.360 44.
00:16:18.220 44 million views.
00:16:19.620 And that's where we're at.
00:16:20.320 And the channel right now is at 809,000 subs.
00:16:23.180 Do you know which one of our channels is growing that fast?
00:16:25.220 None of them.
00:16:25.820 You know why?
00:16:26.420 People want to laugh.
00:16:27.500 Very true.
00:16:28.060 This is a great time to be in the laugh business.
00:16:31.320 I don't know if people realize there's so much pressure.
00:16:35.100 There's so much tension.
00:16:37.060 People would much rather watch Vinny do 20 voices of animals running around than freaking
00:16:42.860 watch serious topics.
00:16:44.760 And I'm being said, yeah, we will sit here, do research.
00:16:47.600 I'm doing something.
00:16:48.780 Vinny will be running out of somebody doing his thing.
00:16:51.280 Boom.
00:16:51.500 Puts it up 22 million views.
00:16:53.040 Okay?
00:16:53.160 There is no politics in that topic.
00:16:55.120 So to me, the reason why I'm saying this is there is a model for comedy on late night,
00:16:59.360 but they're getting it wrong.
00:17:01.220 Yep.
00:17:01.440 Like the late night people that are running it.
00:17:03.540 Dude, there is a business model for it.
00:17:05.500 It's not dead.
00:17:06.580 It's not over.
00:17:07.440 You screwed it up.
00:17:09.080 There needs to be a basic policy.
00:17:11.580 Make fun of both sides.
00:17:13.180 Who the hell is the booker?
00:17:14.560 We're out of 172 guests.
00:17:16.620 Colbert had 171.
00:17:17.160 One was on the liberal side.
00:17:19.080 And one was on the conservative side.
00:17:21.100 And the one that was conservative was Liz Cheney. 0.94
00:17:23.940 Jesus.
00:17:24.460 Who hates Trump.
00:17:25.880 Did you invite Charlie?
00:17:27.280 You missed out on having Charlie on your show?
00:17:29.640 Are you flipping kidding me?
00:17:31.520 You missed out on having all these guys on your show?
00:17:33.520 Why not?
00:17:34.560 It would have brought so many eyeballs.
00:17:35.840 So I don't think it's dead.
00:17:38.320 I just think they royally screwed up with a great opportunity.
00:17:41.860 And I think there's still a chance there.
00:17:43.380 Adam, your thoughts here.
00:17:44.220 You just want to watch Marcelo, matter of fact.
00:17:46.360 Well, I went to see Marcelo last night.
00:17:47.980 If you haven't heard of Marcelo Hernandez, he's the young rising star on SNL.
00:17:51.260 And he's like my little brother.
00:17:53.100 He worked here for two years.
00:17:54.760 I gave him a big raise once.
00:17:55.640 You actually shot him down for a raise.
00:17:58.520 Because your show wasn't making money.
00:18:00.240 Well, YouTube shows don't make money.
00:18:02.500 But let's not go there.
00:18:04.260 But the kid is killing it right now.
00:18:06.580 And I'm so proud of the freaking guy.
00:18:09.160 And his Netflix special is coming out.
00:18:10.980 But you know what he is more than anything?
00:18:13.280 Funny.
00:18:14.020 Yeah.
00:18:14.460 Here's the deal.
00:18:15.700 Jimmy Kimmel is not funny.
00:18:17.980 At all.
00:18:18.420 He's just not funny.
00:18:19.560 You know how they always say, like, in the culture wars, go woke, go broke.
00:18:23.400 Well, not funny?
00:18:24.980 No money, bro.
00:18:26.060 Yep.
00:18:26.360 No laughs, no cash.
00:18:27.320 I remember when I one time talked to him.
00:18:29.780 I said...
00:18:30.060 Who, Jimmy Kimmel?
00:18:30.760 No, no, Marcelo.
00:18:31.300 Oh, okay.
00:18:31.840 One time I'm telling Marcelo.
00:18:33.080 Because Marcelo would send the office.
00:18:34.440 And you don't realize, we're his audience.
00:18:36.260 Yes.
00:18:36.460 He's working us.
00:18:37.560 Yeah, yeah.
00:18:37.900 All the time.
00:18:38.380 Practicing.
00:18:38.680 And I know what he's doing.
00:18:41.060 Yeah.
00:18:41.380 But I'm like, dude, you're so good.
00:18:42.500 Like, he would just do his stuff all the time, right?
00:18:44.740 And one time I'm like, so what do you want to do?
00:18:46.000 He says, I have this special.
00:18:47.720 So you get this.
00:18:48.300 He said, I have this special.
00:18:49.860 I said, really?
00:18:50.540 Yeah.
00:18:51.240 I said, so why don't we think about something for you to do here as a show?
00:18:55.920 This is four years ago.
00:18:57.140 He says, no, Pat, I can't.
00:18:58.280 I said, why?
00:18:58.880 My dream is to be on SNL.
00:19:00.700 I'm going to be on SNL.
00:19:02.100 I'm like, Marcelo, let us get a podcast and a show going for you here.
00:19:05.300 Do something with us.
00:19:06.180 I can't.
00:19:06.680 I have to be on SNL.
00:19:08.600 This guy was, he says, Pat, he says, I would rather take $30,000 from Netflix than a million
00:19:14.760 dollars from anybody else just to make sure my special is on Netflix.
00:19:17.140 Oh, yeah.
00:19:17.560 Wow.
00:19:18.480 He says, I have something.
00:19:20.240 I know it's going to do well.
00:19:21.580 I said, all right, do your thing.
00:19:23.460 So what happens?
00:19:24.880 The guy is now in Happy Gilmore 2 doing stuff with Bad Bunny, doing stuff with pretty much
00:19:28.640 anybody and everybody.
00:19:30.260 But moral of the story with this comedy stuff is it's not over with.
00:19:34.540 Now, here's Barack Obama.
00:19:36.260 Oh, my favorite.
00:19:37.000 When you're talking about, you know, he's talking about comments about Charlie Kirk.
00:19:44.000 Rob, I think you have it.
00:19:45.260 Yeah.
00:19:45.980 By the way, have we gone to the Keith Olbermann stuff?
00:19:48.320 He's not talking about Kimmel here, right?
00:19:50.020 He's talking about Charlie Kirk.
00:19:51.440 Yes, Charlie Kirk.
00:19:51.960 Okay.
00:19:52.380 Do me a favor.
00:19:53.120 We'll come back to this.
00:19:54.140 Trust me, folks.
00:19:54.640 You have to watch this.
00:19:55.800 Go to play that Chris clip that you have, right?
00:19:59.380 Rob, right there.
00:20:00.420 This is part of the stuff that's the controversy of Chris Hayes.
00:20:03.120 I cannot believe, you know, the cancellation.
00:20:05.740 And I was like, wait a minute.
00:20:07.080 What did you say when Tucker got fired?
00:20:09.280 Did you forget?
00:20:10.360 Because here's a great thing about the Internet today.
00:20:12.160 You know what's awesome about the Internet today?
00:20:14.160 It remembers.
00:20:16.800 They better go behind you, dog. 0.71
00:20:19.020 The receipts are everywhere.
00:20:20.680 Go ahead, Rob.
00:20:21.240 The BBC made the announcement that Kimmel would indeed be taken off the air indefinitely.
00:20:26.320 And this is just the latest chapter in Donald Trump's ongoing campaign to crack down on free speech, dominate the media, and essentially render the First Amendment meaningless.
00:20:37.520 So it was for the journeyman cable news host, Tucker Carlson, just fired from his third network.
00:20:43.300 He believed he could say anything, no matter how vile, no matter how disgusting, no matter how offensive, no matter how dehumanizing or belittling.
00:20:51.620 And if you act like a sociopath over and over and over and over, you will become unpopular on the national stage.
00:21:02.220 That's just like a basic principle.
00:21:03.680 Over time, probably not going to work out well for me.
00:21:05.720 I thought he was going to say something else.
00:21:08.420 Like, what popular?
00:21:11.520 The guy was running the number one show when he got fired.
00:21:14.620 Yep.
00:21:15.020 Okay?
00:21:15.380 And even today, his podcast is a top three, top four podcast on Spotify, ongoing.
00:21:21.940 Okay?
00:21:22.420 And he goes around the world interviewing guys.
00:21:24.620 You don't have to agree with him.
00:21:25.680 I don't agree with a lot of stuff sometimes, Tucker says.
00:21:28.620 But guess what?
00:21:29.300 But you can't say this stuff about – by the way, I invited Tucker to speak at the VOL conference.
00:21:35.520 We have text exchange he and I three months ago, invited him to come and speak.
00:21:39.060 And I said, can you just give the landscape of what's going on?
00:21:42.020 He had – I think he had something going on with hunting or something he had going on for himself.
00:21:46.860 So the story here is when you hear these, I can't believe what they did – Keith Olbermann.
00:21:50.940 Can you pull up with Keith Olbermann?
00:21:51.940 Keith Olbermann, there's a story of him calling Bob Iger.
00:21:54.600 Apparently, he has joined MAGA, folks.
00:21:56.220 Bob Iger is apparently MAGA.
00:21:56.540 Bob Iger, yeah, of all people, sure.
00:21:58.340 Look at this here.
00:21:59.560 Disney CEO, real MAGA.
00:22:00.440 Bert in Hell, Sinclair.
00:22:02.080 This guy's –
00:22:02.620 Alongside Charlie Kirk.
00:22:04.260 Unbelievable.
00:22:04.380 Are you flipping kidding me?
00:22:06.880 Are you flipping kidding me to say something like that?
00:22:10.580 Now, the problem with this guy is he's been fired so many times, there is no more firing him.
00:22:15.820 No, no.
00:22:16.360 And yesterday, Destiny was apparently demonetized on YouTube.
00:22:20.300 That's a decision that YouTube made.
00:22:21.560 Did you guys see that or no?
00:22:22.440 Yeah.
00:22:22.600 I didn't see that.
00:22:23.440 Yes.
00:22:23.800 I think that happened because he said something.
00:22:25.940 What did he say?
00:22:27.060 Another clip was circulating that he said, I hope Charlie Kirk's – you know which one I'm talking about right there?
00:22:32.260 Zoom in a little bit, AFP post.
00:22:33.620 Come on, Destiny.
00:22:34.140 Liberal stream of Destiny who recently refused to disavow the political motivation of Charlie Kirk has been demonetized on YouTube.
00:22:39.600 I don't like to see it.
00:22:41.240 I don't agree with 99% of what this guy says.
00:22:44.500 If this guy doesn't incite violence and say things like that, you'd still be up.
00:22:51.420 We still need the opposition of arguments.
00:22:54.780 Yep.
00:22:55.180 You know, but there's one rule I have.
00:22:57.900 The inciting violence.
00:22:59.940 Okay?
00:23:00.340 All the other stuff people want to make fun of him, how he chose to be married to this other girl, how he chose to be – that's his personal life.
00:23:06.240 I don't care what he wants to do with that part.
00:23:07.620 But you cross the line and you say something about Republicans and MAGA and capitalists and all this.
00:23:12.340 I was on Piker.
00:23:13.380 These guys – you know, there's a slippery slope.
00:23:16.660 Vinny's been working on something for the last six months.
00:23:19.880 A shirt that he's excited about.
00:23:21.980 Truly, he's excited about.
00:23:23.440 And I want Vinny to tell you about the shirt here.
00:23:25.500 Go for it.
00:23:25.800 Thanks, Pat.
00:23:26.280 So, guys, like Pat said, I've been trying to work on this shirt for almost a year, Pat, if I'm going to really break it down.
00:23:32.120 And, you know, traveling, Italy, this, that, never got back to it.
00:23:34.900 But now I think this is the best time, especially with the battle and everything that we're going through right now.
00:23:39.760 I'm calling it like the faith-based line.
00:23:42.220 It's a faith over fear shirt.
00:23:44.300 I have the cross in the front.
00:23:46.260 Boom, in the front to let everybody know where you're at.
00:23:48.520 And then I have this on the back.
00:23:50.160 Faith over fear.
00:23:51.060 And the Hebrews 11.1.
00:23:52.500 Adam, you'll like this.
00:23:53.360 Thank you, buddy.
00:23:53.620 It's faith, it's confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.
00:23:56.940 Everybody knows this.
00:23:57.980 Jesus Christ was born over 2,000 years ago.
00:24:00.880 None of us have seen him.
00:24:02.140 Nobody, nobody's talked to him, but guess what?
00:24:04.260 We believe.
00:24:04.920 Okay, that's the faith.
00:24:05.580 And the greatest story of faith I've ever heard, Tom told me, it was a centurion Roman soldier, and he saw Jesus, and he went up to Jesus, and he said,
00:24:13.220 Jesus, my servant, my young servant is at the house, and he's paralyzed, and he's in immense suffering.
00:24:18.880 And Jesus goes, shall I come and heal him?
00:24:21.120 And the centurion, by the way, a Gentile, looks at him and says, Lord, I do not deserve to have you under my roof, but just say the word, and you shall be healed. 0.99
00:24:30.680 Think about that, Pat.
00:24:31.520 So Jesus turns to his disciples, and he goes, I have not found anyone in Israel with such faith.
00:24:37.680 And he says to the centurion, he goes, go and let it be done just as you believe it would.
00:24:42.400 Okay, and the servant was healed.
00:24:44.460 That is faith, guys.
00:24:46.460 So, and if you have faith, and you are a Christian, you have nothing to fear.
00:24:51.420 In the Bible, the command of do not fear, do not be afraid is said 365 times in a different variation.
00:24:58.260 Okay, and that's one for every single day.
00:25:00.800 So if you have faith, guys, if you have faith in God, in Jesus Christ, you have nothing to fear.
00:25:06.220 Nothing to fear.
00:25:07.000 And that's what motivated me.
00:25:08.100 And I made this shirt.
00:25:09.340 Boom, it's on the website, Pat.
00:25:10.460 We have black.
00:25:11.200 There's white.
00:25:12.040 There's maroon.
00:25:12.900 And there's different variations, Robbie.
00:25:14.340 If you can, the shirt, boom, faith over fear.
00:25:16.740 No, it's ridiculous, bro.
00:25:18.280 Look at the white one.
00:25:19.160 And by the way, you know, like I wear my cross, guys?
00:25:20.760 Yeah.
00:25:20.920 When you wear this shirt, you don't need jewelry because that lets everybody in front of you know.
00:25:25.300 And then when I leave, boom.
00:25:27.140 Respect.
00:25:28.100 Gang, go support it.
00:25:29.720 Love it.
00:25:30.340 Vinny's Merch, Faith Over Fear.
00:25:33.480 White, black, gray, red, pick and choose.
00:25:36.000 It's out there for you to order.
00:25:37.800 VTmerch.com.
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