Valuetainment - November 12, 2026


Who Can Overrule Zuckerbergļ¼Ÿ Facebook Insider Describes Chaos at the Top

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00:00:00 The way the employees look at Mark, is he loved, respected, liked, feared, or trusted?
00:00:05 How do the employees view him?
00:00:06 So within the part of the company I worked with, I think there was kind of an acceptance
00:00:12 that Mark was in charge, but it made things kind of chaotic.
00:00:16 So I'll give you an example.
00:00:18 Maybe three months before I joined, there was a situation in India.
00:00:23 So Modi is the Prime Minister of India.
00:00:25 he had started making comments about muslims that um uh referred to them as like insects or rodents
00:00:31 like language that is um otherizing modi like modi yeah um and he's actually making these yeah
00:00:37 public comments on facebook um and these are considered precursor comments to ethnic violence
00:00:42 like when you start talking about an ethnic group in your country as like vermin um this is like on
00:00:47 the the steps documented he said these oh yeah yeah because it's their feud with pakistan and
00:00:51 what they have, maybe a part of it could be that.
00:00:53 He's also like a Hindu nationalist.
00:00:55 I mean, this is a big part of his political power.
00:00:58 When people study how ethnic violence happens,
00:01:00 you first start out with this kind of like
00:01:02 delegitimizing language and you go from there.
00:01:04 So this conversation came about being like,
00:01:06 oh, interesting, he has started doing these things.
00:01:08 What does Facebook do if he starts posting 1.00
00:01:10 you should kill the Muslims? 1.00
00:01:12 Like, what do we do? 1.00
00:01:13 Like, this is a reasonable question.
00:01:15 And so a task force was formed.
00:01:17 So 40 people spend six months trying to figure out
00:01:20 at what point can you not allow a national leader to post on Facebook?
00:01:24 Like, what is, what's the, what's like the threshold where you're like, okay,
00:01:27 we're not going to let him coordinate a genocide on our platform, right?
00:01:30 Like, what is that bar?
00:01:32 Because I think everyone agree, there's some bar.
00:01:34 Who knows, like, we can have a conversation about where's that bar, 0.96
00:01:36 but probably, like, calling for the deaths of the Muslims in India is probably above that bar. 0.97
00:01:41 And so. 1.00
00:01:42 They all agreed, all 40 agreed?
00:01:44 So, yeah, so at the end of six months, you know, they've talked to people in ads,
00:01:47 in public policy and government relations in the there's literally a genocide group inside of
00:01:51 facebook it's called social cohesion um all all these different people people phds they write a
00:01:57 proposal they come to one final thing they present it to mark on like a friday he says i don't like
00:02:02 this i can do better he goes home he writes a policy he comes out and he announces it on monday
00:02:08 how how would that make you feel like if you know that like 40 people have like hashed this
00:02:15 out and argued about it and like consulted people inside the company outside the company figured out
00:02:19 a thing that they all can agree to over six months and your leader goes oh no no i can do better
00:02:23 over the weekend was his better uh well the challenge with his was it wasn't implementable
00:02:28 um so he said we will never censor the voice of a politician and the only problem with this is in
00:02:34 some jurisdictions your local dog catcher is an elected position do they count as a politician
00:02:39 i mean they're an elected official and how did he qualify that did he say if it's a world leader if
00:02:44 tier one tier two elected official that's it yeah and so the problem and part of the reason why this
00:02:50 policy was not suggested originally was like the advertising team doesn't know who the dog catchers
00:02:54 are right there's like in the united states alone there's hundreds of thousands of people who have
00:02:58 elected jobs right now what percentage of the three and a half billion users on facebook are
00:03:04 from india oh from india oh great question um can you pull it up i don't know because i would say
00:03:09 hey we have to be careful with the clients that we have any users that we have in india so i'm
00:03:13 thinking selfishly now to see maybe that's what it is i don't know so i know only 11 percent of
00:03:17 users spoke english when i left in 2021 in india only 11 percent of users on facebook spoke english
00:03:23 yeah and that's that's a big part of it has to be india if that's the case okay so so in your
00:03:31 position and the 40 people that were part of that you said the cohesion social that was one of the
00:03:36 groups was social cohesion and how did they react to zuck saying i can write it better
00:03:40 um so my my boss so he's the head of civic integrity i can't tell you exactly what social
00:03:45 cohesion did but i can tell you what my boss did so my boss called together all 200 300 of us into
00:03:51 a big conference room um big like auditorium and um showed us pictures of an mri of his spine
00:03:57 and like like this is your boss this is my boss so imagine you're sitting there and like everyone
00:04:01 knew this policy was coming they knew it was a big deal like across the order i didn't even work
00:04:05 on this policy and i knew it was coming um so when the news came out that like mark had written his
00:04:09 own thing and announced it um and he called us all together and my boss gets up there and he
00:04:14 starts showing us mris of his mind and we're all like what is going on here like is he gonna quit
00:04:20 like and he's talking about how he worked so hard that he hurt his own back you know like how much
00:04:25 he's given for this company how much he's sacrificed and like how dispiriting it is he's
00:04:29 showing this to you guys how many people are in the room there's like 200 people in this room
00:04:32 oh so this is a heavyweight this is a heavyweight this is and he's he reports directly to mark he's
00:04:36 like one step down um and uh you know he's up there talking about how much he has personally
00:04:41 sacrificed for this mission right like he's showing us his spine um and we're all like god
00:04:45 he's gonna quit like this is there's only one way this talk ends at the last minute he's like
00:04:50 but no we must fight onwards um so like people were really devastated by having it be like like
00:04:59 we've just told you there is a risk of people dying at like a huge scale and to be clear within 0.96
00:05:03 two years of that, you had the ethnic
00:05:05 violence in Ethiopia that was
00:05:07 fanned by social media, and like half a million people died. 0.88
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