Valuetainment - June 05, 2025


"Who Gave Zelenskyy Permission?" Trump-Putin Call IGNITES Global Tensions After Ukraine Drone STRIKE


Episode Stats

Length

29 minutes

Words per Minute

205.92625

Word Count

6,162

Sentence Count

567

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

27


Summary

Who gave Ukraine the authority to attack Russia? The answer to this riddle will solve the riddle. Trump's phone call with Putin and why he thinks Ukraine should have been given permission to attack a Russian base.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Now I'm going to read what Trump said after a conversation he had with Putin.
00:00:04.060 So this is the tweet.
00:00:05.440 You guys, if you watch the podcast on Tuesday, I said this.
00:00:08.420 Who gave Zelensky the authority to attack Russia,
00:00:11.320 especially after the minerals deal and the desire for a peace deal?
00:00:14.400 There's no way he attacks 40 Russian bombers in the way that he did
00:00:17.640 without having someone's backing.
00:00:19.320 The answer to this question solves the riddle.
00:00:21.480 So this gets 2.9 million views.
00:00:23.560 Not a lot of people happy.
00:00:25.040 I want to react to some of the comments that were below.
00:00:27.300 So there's a lady named Kate.
00:00:28.980 I believe she's probably from Ukraine.
00:00:30.560 She says it was me.
00:00:31.720 I gave him the authority and millions of other Ukrainians when we elected him.
00:00:35.080 Question, though, is who gave you an authority to speak nonsense?
00:00:38.140 Great point.
00:00:39.320 And I responded back and I told her, you're so cute.
00:00:41.480 You gave him permission.
00:00:42.320 Isn't that awesome?
00:00:43.260 I'm sure his puppet masters are very happy with you.
00:00:45.280 Have a wonderful day, sweetheart.
00:00:46.700 So go to the next one, Rob, if you can.
00:00:48.820 Grok asked the question, what happened here?
00:00:50.540 And he says, hey, what do you think is, he says,
00:00:53.120 Zelensky likely authorized the June 1st, 2025 attack on a Russian airbases
00:00:56.680 as Ukraine commander-in-chief with the operation executed by the SBUs.
00:01:00.220 No direct evidence shows that U.S. or NATO authorization,
00:01:04.620 but general support like, can you show more,
00:01:07.040 April 2025 Ukraine minerals deal, may have emboldened Ukraine,
00:01:12.180 the attack targeting bombers used against Ukraine in cities,
00:01:15.140 aligned with self-defense under international law.
00:01:17.440 Controversy persists over implicit external backing.
00:01:20.040 So if you go a little lower, a couple other guys kept saying things like,
00:01:23.660 you know, keep going, keep going, keep going.
00:01:25.540 Let's see if we can find some of these guys that came back with real harsh commentary.
00:01:29.780 And by the way, I totally understand what they're saying.
00:01:32.380 One guy said, if you go back, Rob, I'll explain why I said this.
00:01:39.400 Permission.
00:01:40.000 So why did I say permission?
00:01:41.780 Rob, can you Google what countries have the strongest military power in the world?
00:01:45.760 Type in top 100.
00:01:47.520 Top 100 strongest military in the world, if you could.
00:01:50.160 Top 100.
00:01:51.440 Top 100.
00:01:51.940 There you go.
00:01:52.660 Watch this here, okay?
00:01:54.440 If you go to top 100, not top 10, top 100 matters.
00:01:57.540 Top 10 doesn't give us the answer.
00:01:59.380 There is a, right there, you can go to the next one, Rob.
00:02:01.520 Go a little lower, right there, that says military strength ranking.
00:02:04.280 Okay.
00:02:05.060 Zoom out a little bit so we can see it.
00:02:06.580 Zoom in a little bit so we can see it, Rob.
00:02:08.220 So number one is U.S.
00:02:09.220 Who's number two?
00:02:11.000 Russia.
00:02:11.480 Okay.
00:02:11.760 Russia.
00:02:12.240 Does Russia need anyone's help to go to war?
00:02:15.620 No.
00:02:15.940 They have their own weapons.
00:02:17.340 They're number two in the world.
00:02:18.680 Okay.
00:02:19.320 Does China need anyone's permission?
00:02:21.220 No.
00:02:21.800 Does India need anyone's permission?
00:02:24.000 No.
00:02:24.380 A little bit.
00:02:25.040 Maybe not necessarily.
00:02:25.920 They need support, but not necessarily.
00:02:27.660 How about South Korea if they want to do anything with the other guys?
00:02:30.180 UK probably needs NATO's help.
00:02:32.480 Keep going lower.
00:02:33.280 Keep going lower.
00:02:33.960 Keep going lower.
00:02:34.360 Where's Ukraine here?
00:02:35.740 Keep going lower.
00:02:36.380 Keep going lower.
00:02:36.980 Keep going lower.
00:02:37.520 Number 20.
00:02:38.220 20.
00:02:38.960 You know what Ukraine needs?
00:02:40.180 Help.
00:02:40.540 And by the way, when guys that say things like the following, let me tell you, isn't
00:02:45.540 it impressive that Ukraine stood up against Russia?
00:02:48.700 No, they didn't.
00:02:50.720 Ukraine, Germany, NATO, U.S., everybody that gave them weapons got Ukraine to stand up against
00:02:57.580 Russia.
00:02:57.920 Not Ukraine directly against Russia.
00:02:59.780 This whole nonsense about the fact that Ukraine is showing so much strength.
00:03:02.900 They're not.
00:03:03.320 It's Ukraine, U.S., Biden, Germany, France, NATO that's showing strength.
00:03:07.880 Not UK alone.
00:03:08.800 Can you imagine if this war was Ukraine alone and nobody gave them weapons?
00:03:11.780 Oh, it'd be over in a week.
00:03:12.540 That's exactly your point.
00:03:14.000 Oh, yeah.
00:03:14.340 So the point is when people say, it's because our leader decided to do this.
00:03:19.420 No, your leader didn't decide to do this.
00:03:21.100 Your leader went around the world begging for money and weapons.
00:03:24.640 And other countries empowered your leader to do what he did.
00:03:29.620 Other countries.
00:03:30.660 Not him.
00:03:31.120 So then Trump has a phone call with Putin, and he says the following, Rob, if you can
00:03:34.680 go to it.
00:03:36.300 It's right after my tweet, by the way.
00:03:37.720 It's right above my tweet, Rob.
00:03:38.720 So if you don't mind going to the tweet, because I want to also point out what some people commented
00:03:43.420 on the bottom of it.
00:03:44.200 If you can just go back.
00:03:45.100 There you go.
00:03:45.400 Right there.
00:03:46.440 And I posted.
00:03:47.360 I said, what?
00:03:47.860 Not good.
00:03:48.420 So watch this.
00:03:49.040 I just finished speaking by telephone with Vladimir Putin of Russia, President Vladimir Putin.
00:03:54.980 The call lasted approximately one hour and 15 minutes.
00:03:56.980 We discussed the attack on Russia's docked airplanes by Ukraine and also various other
00:04:01.320 attacks that have been taking place by both sides.
00:04:03.400 It was a good conversation, but not a conversation that will lead to immediate peace.
00:04:07.080 President Putin did say, and very strongly, that he will have to respond to recent attack
00:04:11.880 on the airfields.
00:04:12.620 We also discussed Iran and the fact that time is running out of Iran's decision pertaining
00:04:16.840 nuclear weapons, which must be quickly made quickly.
00:04:20.240 I stated to President Putin that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
00:04:22.780 And on this, I believe that we were in agreement.
00:04:24.400 President Trump, President Putin suggested that he will participate in the discussions
00:04:27.800 with Iran and that he could perhaps be helpful in getting this brought to a rapid conclusion.
00:04:33.320 It is my opinion that Iran has been slow walking their decision on this very important
00:04:36.720 matter, and we will need a definitive answer in a very short period of time.
00:04:41.640 So I put at the top, not good.
00:04:42.840 Go to the bottom, Rob, on one of the comments.
00:04:44.660 Somebody said, you scared, and my comment was, concern for innocent families who live
00:04:49.300 in Russia and Ukraine.
00:04:50.180 This isn't good for anybody, by the way.
00:04:51.980 This could get very ugly, very nasty for a lot of people.
00:04:54.580 Trust me, you don't want that if you live in Russia.
00:04:57.160 You don't want that if you live in Ukraine.
00:04:58.480 You don't want that if you live in America.
00:04:59.780 You don't want that if you live in the Middle East.
00:05:00.980 You don't want that if you're part of NATO, UK, any of those guys.
00:05:04.380 Nobody wants this, but it looks like something's about to happen.
00:05:07.660 So my thoughts, the question I want to ask you is the following, Adam, Tom, Vinny.
00:05:12.520 Do you think, because there was an element of, when I said, if the president doesn't
00:05:19.600 respond back, they knew that this was going to happen, okay?
00:05:24.060 Meaning Trump.
00:05:24.720 Meaning Trump had intel.
00:05:25.780 Now, I'm still convinced they had intel that this was going to happen.
00:05:28.260 I'm convinced they knew this was going to take place.
00:05:29.320 You think Trump knew that this was going to take place?
00:05:31.220 I'm convinced that they knew this was going to take place, okay?
00:05:35.240 The 40 bombers that they attacked Ukraine.
00:05:37.280 I'm convinced they knew about that.
00:05:38.160 Because whose weapons are they using to attack them anyway?
00:05:39.960 It's not like it's Ukrainian technology.
00:05:41.260 They're buying it from somebody.
00:05:42.800 So I'm convinced they knew.
00:05:44.180 But the question is, do you think President Trump posting on X what Putin said that they're
00:05:51.440 going to be attacking Ukraine, do you think that's a good thing?
00:05:55.880 Do you think he asked Putin, are you okay if I publicly announce this?
00:05:59.960 Do you think Putin knew he was going to post this publicly?
00:06:02.800 What do you think about that?
00:06:04.180 And at this point, since it's been 48 hours since this moment here, has your position
00:06:09.340 changed?
00:06:09.860 Has anything changed?
00:06:11.160 With new stories, Tom, where are you at with this?
00:06:13.660 I still think number six and seven on the military strength chart, the UK and France were the
00:06:19.040 ones that gave the nod on this.
00:06:21.660 I believe that because when that whole debacle broke down in the Oval Office and the screaming
00:06:27.620 match with J.D. Vance and everything, and we said, we will not be your backstop.
00:06:33.360 Because he said, I'm only signing the minerals deal if you agree to be the backstop, which
00:06:37.200 effectively puts Ukraine and NATO.
00:06:39.100 Right, Benny?
00:06:40.000 Yep.
00:06:40.420 And he said, no, we're not going to do that.
00:06:42.060 I'm not going to put American lives and American technology in a direct war with Russia because
00:06:47.440 five minutes after you leave here, you're going to do a skirmish.
00:06:50.840 And if I'm your backstop, now I'm technically at war with Russia, and I'm already at a proxy
00:06:54.640 war through my military defense complex.
00:06:57.580 He keeps shipping things.
00:06:59.520 So where did he go?
00:07:01.980 Starmer Macron.
00:07:03.360 And we saw him walking there.
00:07:04.660 They embraced him.
00:07:05.540 Remember, two days later, he's over there.
00:07:07.000 Oh, I'm so sorry about the Oval Office.
00:07:08.760 We're with you, and we're giving you money, and it's going to be a loan.
00:07:12.220 Part of it, it's a loan.
00:07:13.140 I still believe that the UK and France want the war with Ukraine to push Russia back, and
00:07:23.060 I believe they were part of the green light on this because they split with the US on the
00:07:28.500 foreign policy after that meeting in the Oval Office.
00:07:31.680 That's what I think.
00:07:32.460 Adam, your thoughts?
00:07:33.700 So the question is, who gave Zelensky the authority to do this attack, right?
00:07:41.800 That's one of the parts.
00:07:43.140 The other one is publicly announcing, which Tom didn't cover, the fact that, do you think
00:07:47.160 it's a good move to publicize a world leader you're trying to negotiate with their next
00:07:52.100 moves?
00:07:52.560 Do you think that permission was asked?
00:07:54.540 Do you think that's a good thing, and do you have any other thoughts on this, on what's
00:07:58.720 evolved the last 40 hours?
00:07:59.400 So this negotiation, right?
00:08:00.840 So Trump is famous for writing what book?
00:08:02.820 The Art of the Deal.
00:08:03.660 So what I want to know is what's going on is what are the terms of this deal?
00:08:08.020 I'm pretty certain about a few things, and you tell me if I'm wrong.
00:08:13.140 Pretty sure that Putin is the bad guy, despite a lot of people not liking Zelensky.
00:08:20.420 I'm pretty sure that Zelensky has been sort of a puppet, whether that's by NATO, whether
00:08:26.340 that's by the EU, whether that's by the United States.
00:08:29.760 I'm pretty sure that without our help, he'd be a goner, and so would Ukraine.
00:08:33.680 But I know this one thing.
00:08:35.820 Follow the money, right?
00:08:37.180 The whole conversation about NATO was every country has to do what?
00:08:42.500 Put in 2% of their GDP.
00:08:44.920 Is that right, Tom?
00:08:46.420 2%.
00:08:46.860 Yes or no?
00:08:48.580 Some more, some less.
00:08:49.560 I think the U.S. is at 3.2%.
00:08:51.140 No, no, no.
00:08:51.780 Yeah, you're right.
00:08:52.580 What you're supposed to do is 2%.
00:08:54.360 But who's putting in more?
00:08:56.280 This is my point.
00:08:57.060 Look at all the countries who have the most to lose, who are the most concerned about Russia.
00:09:04.620 Poland, our friend, what's his name?
00:09:08.140 Dominik.
00:09:08.520 Dominik.
00:09:09.060 Dominik Tarzinski.
00:09:09.900 They're putting in 4.2%.
00:09:12.580 That's the most in the world.
00:09:14.760 They're next up in Russia, if Russia does want to dominate Europe.
00:09:19.720 Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, all well above 2% in the 3% to 4% range.
00:09:24.960 Germany, UK, France, Denmark, even Turkey, all in the 2% range.
00:09:29.420 Then you have countries like Canada, Italy, Spain, not paying their fair share.
00:09:33.700 Here's the deal.
00:09:34.260 So these countries would not be spending this much money on their defense if this wasn't a massive concern.
00:09:41.900 So I know in America here, we actually tend not to give two shits about Ukraine these days.
00:09:46.900 But the people in Europe do.
00:09:48.400 I don't think that's the case, Adam.
00:09:50.320 I think half of America is still.
00:09:52.560 I think half of America are over this.
00:09:53.280 No, no.
00:09:53.700 I think you would be amazed what a big faction of America still supports Ukraine and hates Russia.
00:10:01.440 I don't see one college protest.
00:10:03.240 I don't see one Ukraine pin.
00:10:05.400 I don't see one place.
00:10:06.420 I just saw one.
00:10:07.140 I see gays for Gaza everywhere.
00:10:08.820 I see nothing about Ukraine.
00:10:10.320 Don't confuse those two.
00:10:11.820 Do I think Americans are burned out with this nonsense Ukraine-Russia thing?
00:10:16.980 Yes.
00:10:17.760 Do I think Americans are sitting there siding with Putin?
00:10:21.120 No.
00:10:22.060 I think a lot of academia.
00:10:23.880 I think a lot of college.
00:10:24.800 I think a lot of mainstream media.
00:10:26.540 I think a lot.
00:10:27.000 And by the way, I think a percentage of conservatives even are still siding with Zelensky.
00:10:31.680 I think they are.
00:10:32.640 Why wouldn't they be?
00:10:34.360 What do you mean, why wouldn't they be?
00:10:35.680 No, it's not why wouldn't they be.
00:10:37.400 I'm only addressing that you said people don't like Zelensky in America.
00:10:41.540 I think people are over the begging.
00:10:44.100 And the money that we've given.
00:10:45.480 If you had to say, who's the bad guy here?
00:10:48.060 Is it Ukraine or is it Russia?
00:10:51.000 I mean, my instincts are saying, no, it's Putin.
00:10:54.740 Putin is the most dictatorial leader in all of Europe.
00:10:59.540 They're in all of Europe.
00:11:01.580 They're the most corrupt country in all of Europe.
00:11:05.200 What country has aspirations for, I don't know if it's global domination, but at least European domination.
00:11:11.600 This whole, like, Reagan would be turning in his grave if he heard that Republicans were all of a sudden siding with Russia and Putin over Democratic allies.
00:11:23.060 There's a very weird schism going on here.
00:11:25.540 And when Trump dressed him down and disrespected him, which I was an advocate of, in the Oval Office, did he write him off and never talk to him again?
00:11:35.360 Or did two weeks later, did he meet with him and work out a mineral deal?
00:11:38.600 So as annoying and as, I guess, feminine as Zelensky is, he's still our ally and Putin is not.
00:11:45.560 I don't think that's what a lot of conservatives are siding with Putin or not.
00:11:49.980 I think conservatives are completely confused.
00:11:52.340 No, I don't think they are.
00:11:53.120 I think conservatives want the war to end.
00:11:56.740 We all want the war to end, don't we?
00:11:57.940 But guess what?
00:11:59.520 So Zelensky, you shoot down 40 bombers.
00:12:03.780 You don't want the war to end.
00:12:05.680 Of course not.
00:12:06.280 So if you're claiming you want peace and you're saying this is an 18-month plan that you're executing, you never wanted peace.
00:12:15.100 So don't act like you wanted peace.
00:12:17.160 I can't get in the mind of Zelensky, but I don't think Putin wants peace.
00:12:21.520 But it's not like Zelensky did this in an echo chamber.
00:12:25.540 A week before, Trump called Putin crazy because in the middle of peace negotiations, Putin started bombing Kiev.
00:12:34.720 So if I punch you and you punch me and I punch you and you punch me and then I punch you again, am I going to get mad?
00:12:39.360 But watch what you just said right there.
00:12:41.000 Sure.
00:12:41.300 What you just said is you said conservatives are defending Putin.
00:12:44.500 Trump just called Putin crazy.
00:12:46.920 I'm not putting Trump as a conservative in the same category.
00:12:50.700 All I'm saying to you is—
00:12:51.860 Trump's an independent—
00:12:52.420 No, what I'm saying to you is no matter what you talk about on the conservative side or Trump's side, what they want is this thing to be done.
00:13:00.980 This thing to be done.
00:13:02.260 But if this keeps going back and forth, we do a minerals deal, you attack back, you don't want to have the meeting, you're playing the games, yeah, this is going to continue.
00:13:11.620 So for me, I'm sitting here saying, I don't know, do you really think Zelensky wants the war to be done?
00:13:18.760 Do you think Zelensky wants the war to be done?
00:13:20.800 That's a good question.
00:13:21.820 I mean, my initial gut reaction is like, yes, of course.
00:13:24.640 You think so?
00:13:25.100 But I understand the way that you frame that question, that it's possibly a situation where he wants to prolong it to do what?
00:13:32.680 What would he benefit?
00:13:34.520 That's a good question you're asking.
00:13:35.720 I don't know.
00:13:36.120 How would he benefit by continuing the war and having his people die?
00:13:39.120 How many people don't want the Ukraine-Russia war to be done?
00:13:42.640 I think there's a lot of people in the military-industrial complex that would love to see this continue.
00:13:46.180 You just killed.
00:13:47.800 And think about it.
00:13:48.620 Umberto made a good point yesterday on Unusuals.
00:13:51.120 This delayed retaliation from Putin is really weird.
00:13:55.340 He normally, it's like you hit, you hit back.
00:13:58.120 This is completely out of his character.
00:14:00.740 And I'm going to take just a quick, because Pat, I don't think Putin knows that Trump was going to post, hey, we talked.
00:14:07.900 He said he's going to hit y'all.
00:14:09.880 Hey, Ukraine, get ready.
00:14:11.960 But, you know, we had a good conversation, but he's still going to attack you.
00:14:15.560 That doesn't, I don't think, as Putin, being who Putin is, he's going to be cool with that.
00:14:20.560 And then you have Zelensky coming on camera, what was it, last night, going, hey, I want to talk ceasefire now.
00:14:27.120 Now he wants to talk about it.
00:14:28.300 Let's not forget, by the way, Adam.
00:14:30.380 And everybody was taught, listen, we know who Putin is, okay?
00:14:33.760 He kills people that go against him.
00:14:35.220 Let's not compare.
00:14:36.100 Yeah, no big deal, we know who he is, it's fine.
00:14:38.180 Adam, Adam, Adam, the country that you live in, you know, George Bush, you know what he did?
00:14:43.980 He started an illegal war and a million people died.
00:14:46.540 So if we're going to compare who's bad, let's not play that game.
00:14:50.140 Putin, George Bush, same thing.
00:14:51.860 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.
00:14:52.980 Adam, that's a whole other thing that, trust me, you don't want to get involved with me, because I would, you won't win that conversation.
00:14:58.040 You won't win that argument.
00:14:58.920 Do you think George Bush Jr. belongs in prison for what he did with Iraq?
00:15:03.160 I think he's been the worst president of my lifetime.
00:15:04.840 He killed, okay.
00:15:05.460 But a president in the United States doesn't go to prison.
00:15:07.840 But go ahead.
00:15:08.620 You don't want to get there.
00:15:09.580 Putin, it's not a big deal.
00:15:10.760 Go ahead.
00:15:11.320 A million people, Iraq, I had friends that died.
00:15:13.800 Adam, you don't care about that.
00:15:15.400 Number one, tough guy, I didn't say any of that.
00:15:17.980 So if you want to use sarcasm to say that I'm defending George W. Bush, try again.
00:15:24.680 You were taught, Adam, how many times have you been wrong?
00:15:27.140 Hillary Clinton, Biden, could you be wrong in this situation that we were taught to hate Putin because, Adam, who, why did Putin win?
00:15:34.360 This is why we say it in my opinion.
00:15:35.960 Okay, here's my question to you.
00:15:37.500 But you specialize in being wrong and loud.
00:15:41.600 That's the difference.
00:15:42.460 Tell me how I'm wrong.
00:15:43.920 Go ahead.
00:15:44.680 How am I wrong?
00:15:45.100 Are you trying to tell me that you've never been wrong?
00:15:46.880 No, I'm asking you specifically, how am I wrong?
00:15:50.040 You and the loser American people that wear a Ukraine pin, you were duped.
00:15:55.840 They were all duped because, remember, you were here sitting with Kate Collins, whatever her, the English girl.
00:16:00.920 We were giving billions and billions.
00:16:03.180 We're at $150 billion given to this idiot.
00:16:06.460 I don't want to give them any money, but how did this war start?
00:16:09.440 How did this war start, and when did it start?
00:16:11.540 Under Biden, especially when he came out and goes, you know what?
00:16:14.320 But if Russia does a small, little bombing, we're not going to get pissed off.
00:16:19.220 Border incursion.
00:16:20.440 So help us out here.
00:16:21.620 What's your point?
00:16:22.740 This is my point, Adam.
00:16:24.260 This country, all these people, the Lindsey Grahams, all the Mike Pompeo's, they want war.
00:16:30.140 The war hawks.
00:16:30.420 We are a war-like country.
00:16:32.820 We've been at war since God knows when, all right?
00:16:35.580 And any time people wanted to stop war, what happens?
00:16:38.900 The last president before Trump, who Trump did get shot in the head, before Trump, which
00:16:43.600 president didn't want us to go to war, and his head got blown off in front of his wife
00:16:48.100 and in front of the whole freaking world, okay?
00:16:50.440 That's what happens.
00:16:51.720 He, that guy, Zelensky, is a freaking puppet, and we've built his ass up to be this man of
00:16:57.620 honor.
00:16:58.120 You know what happens in Ukraine, Adam?
00:16:59.480 Conscription.
00:17:00.120 They're running up to people, grabbing husbands and putting them in cars to go fight a war,
00:17:04.900 okay?
00:17:05.540 His own people don't like him, all right?
00:17:07.500 It's a money laundering scheme, and now you're messing with Putin, who does have nukes, and
00:17:12.080 then he has all these people backing him, and it's an ugly situation.
00:17:15.260 I'm not saying Putin's not a bad guy, but Adam, we pushed this guy to start this shit
00:17:21.040 because they kept, what happened with NATO?
00:17:22.760 He said, stop coming in.
00:17:24.200 We promise.
00:17:24.960 We're not going to keep advancing into NATO.
00:17:27.720 Not one inch.
00:17:28.980 Nyet means nyet.
00:17:29.860 You remember that?
00:17:30.520 Let me just nyet you for a second.
00:17:31.240 Putin shouldn't have been saying it.
00:17:32.100 Putin shouldn't have started this, but Putin wasn't.
00:17:34.880 Putin was provoked.
00:17:35.600 We knew exactly what he was going to do, and we poked him.
00:17:39.840 Okay, fair enough.
00:17:40.940 Not a bad point.
00:17:41.600 So you poked him, and he started shit.
00:17:42.720 Okay, now, and you expect him not to?
00:17:44.040 And the military industrial complex.
00:17:46.120 War is good for business.
00:17:47.180 Here we go.
00:17:47.280 What should Ukraine, NATO, United States do when Ukraine was invaded?
00:17:53.420 Nothing?
00:17:54.380 Zero money?
00:17:55.380 Zero troops?
00:17:56.320 Zero aid?
00:17:57.260 Is that your recommendation?
00:17:58.580 Provoke?
00:17:58.800 So, provoking?
00:18:00.000 So, when it started, you're like, yep, fuck you, Ukraine.
00:18:02.560 So, wait, hold on.
00:18:03.160 What would you have done?
00:18:03.700 No, Adam, here's my thing.
00:18:04.820 You provoked somebody to bomb a country.
00:18:07.260 You provoked...
00:18:07.840 Hold on.
00:18:08.260 You provoke a war.
00:18:09.780 Of course you have to help them, because all the money and all the defense contractors
00:18:13.780 are American.
00:18:14.460 So, of course you have to help them.
00:18:15.980 You have to.
00:18:16.360 But you started it.
00:18:17.300 So, we're effed either way.
00:18:18.860 So, all I'm doing is hearing you explaining and just running in circles.
00:18:23.200 Do you have any solutions?
00:18:24.680 How about it should never have started?
00:18:26.020 Okay, great.
00:18:26.720 Do you have any solutions?
00:18:27.500 Yeah.
00:18:27.780 Adam, I don't want any support for these guys in fighting.
00:18:30.940 What Trump is doing is what he's supposed to do.
00:18:33.440 Stop the freaking fighting.
00:18:35.120 Okay?
00:18:35.360 And he's trying.
00:18:36.260 He's calling one of them crazy.
00:18:37.500 You think he respects this guy, too?
00:18:39.240 Zelensky's a puppet.
00:18:40.680 That's all he is.
00:18:41.500 Let's look back to the question.
00:18:42.940 I didn't answer...
00:18:43.820 Adam, please stop.
00:18:44.980 Let's look back to Pat's question.
00:18:46.700 I didn't answer it, and I'll answer it here.
00:18:48.460 I don't think Trump sets up his post, Pat, with anybody.
00:18:53.460 I don't think he told anybody.
00:18:54.700 I think he went back, thought about it, and he made his post.
00:18:58.220 I think he does that, and I think that's one of his styles of negotiation.
00:19:01.000 Do you think he told Putin, I'm going to post this?
00:19:03.160 No.
00:19:03.520 I do not think he tells anybody.
00:19:06.200 I really don't think he tells anybody.
00:19:07.500 I think he goes and thinks about it and says, you know what?
00:19:09.520 This is what I'm going to say.
00:19:10.720 Because if you hear the things he says about Powell, about this, about that, you would
00:19:14.180 imagine if he goes to a consensus of advisors, there's probably a lot of people
00:19:17.440 going to say, Mr. President, don't do that.
00:19:19.040 But I think he goes back and says, nope, this is the way I'm going to do it.
00:19:21.960 This is what I'm going to say.
00:19:22.800 I'm going to go, so I don't think he cleared it with Putin or even talked about it with
00:19:26.800 Putin.
00:19:27.160 What do you think, Ben?
00:19:27.680 I don't think so at all.
00:19:29.400 Remember when reporters even asked Trump about, hey, are you going to strike?
00:19:33.900 He's like, why would I talk to you about my plans?
00:19:36.820 Why would I tell you?
00:19:37.980 In the same situation, Pat, I want to know your opinion.
00:19:41.380 Do you think Putin knew or is cool with Trump posting?
00:19:46.620 Like, hey, we had a good conversation.
00:19:48.020 Oh, but by the way, he's going to retaliate, letting them know that, like, giving them a
00:19:53.140 heads up.
00:19:53.920 You think he knew?
00:19:55.320 You think Putin knows that this guy posted that?
00:19:58.020 Or gave him the okay?
00:19:58.880 Look, I don't know about, you know, like, if I'm telling you I'm going to attack and you
00:20:07.620 post it without telling me that you're going to post it, I don't know.
00:20:15.640 I don't know if you do that.
00:20:16.980 I think you're going to say, hey, I just want to let you know, I have to tweet about this
00:20:21.880 and I'm going to put it out there because the world needs to know.
00:20:24.600 And he says, no problem, do it.
00:20:26.100 Okay, great.
00:20:27.280 Just so you know, I'm going to say this.
00:20:28.940 All right, do it.
00:20:31.340 Versus you reveal the enemy's attack publicly to the world.
00:20:40.740 I don't know.
00:20:41.660 I don't know.
00:20:43.060 You know, the only thing that I see that the right move there is that you told him that
00:20:48.040 you were going to do this.
00:20:49.580 And then it's like, okay, great.
00:20:51.420 Yeah, do it.
00:20:52.160 I want you to say publicly.
00:20:53.540 They need to know.
00:20:54.620 Okay, cool.
00:20:55.620 Then that's what I'm going to do.
00:20:56.820 They need to know that I'm going to attack to them because this is, they cannot do something
00:20:59.720 like this.
00:21:00.660 No problem.
00:21:01.540 I don't see it being the way that it is on the way that the decision was made, but we're
00:21:07.640 going to see what's going to happen here.
00:21:08.600 I mean, the reality of it is if he said he's going to attack, by the way, the entire media,
00:21:13.760 if you go on CNN's Instagram account, Rob, and, you know, if you go on CNN, if you want
00:21:20.520 to, you know, for me, I watch both sides to see what they're saying about the story.
00:21:25.860 If you go to one of the stories, let me see if I can find this or not.
00:21:28.720 One of the stories was a fellow talking about that the news in Russia, the news in Russia,
00:21:36.620 they're saying publicly, influencers in Russia are saying, nuke Kiev.
00:21:43.240 Nuke Kiev.
00:21:44.460 So imagine if influencers in America are telling the president to nuke, nuke, nuke, right?
00:21:51.780 So Russians are sitting there.
00:21:53.960 They're not happy with what happened and they want retaliation.
00:21:58.100 It's the last thing anybody wants.
00:22:00.100 You want the market to be distracted with all this other stuff and then boom, tensions,
00:22:03.900 and you have to get involved.
00:22:04.940 And if the war gets bigger and bigger, we have to somehow, someway get involved.
00:22:08.700 And that's more cost, more money, more debt, more increasing, more us selling weapons to
00:22:14.940 others that we don't even have right now because we've given so much out.
00:22:18.180 No, we are, things are pretty unstable right now when it comes down to things that we have
00:22:24.620 to score away.
00:22:25.220 We need three to four years of just stability of building things structurally here.
00:22:30.440 We don't have it right now.
00:22:31.700 We don't need any kind of distractions.
00:22:33.200 We already have Israel and Hamas going on.
00:22:34.740 To add this on top of it, one of these two has got to stop and neither one of them have
00:22:39.380 stopped yet.
00:22:40.320 It's not a good thing.
00:22:40.940 It's getting worse.
00:22:41.640 It's what I'm saying.
00:22:42.600 So by the way, and guess what everybody on the left is saying now on Twitter?
00:22:45.620 This is it.
00:22:46.420 No, you know what they're saying?
00:22:47.620 What happened to your peace president?
00:22:49.040 Yeah.
00:22:49.540 What happened to your peace president?
00:22:51.180 What happened to your peace president?
00:22:52.280 And that's exactly what I said the last two days, that they're going to use this to pin
00:22:56.360 it against them to say, I thought you're going to be a peace.
00:22:58.660 And this is a, this is a black eye.
00:23:01.220 But that's fair criticism.
00:23:02.820 It's not about it.
00:23:04.000 It's fair criticism.
00:23:04.540 When you come out and you say, all right, Babe Ruth went to bat and he's like, and he points
00:23:08.800 peace and basically he's supposed to, he says he's going to hit a home run and it's been
00:23:13.660 150 days and you're, you barely had a hit.
00:23:18.440 Then yeah, people are going to be like, what happened to the home run guy, buddy?
00:23:21.400 So as much as I advocate for what Trump is doing and wants peace, he called his shot and
00:23:27.160 he struck out.
00:23:27.880 Let's just call a spade a spade here.
00:23:29.360 It's been 150 plus days since he's been in office.
00:23:31.800 He said he would end the war on day one and we're further from peace than when he got
00:23:36.000 elected to office.
00:23:37.220 That's the brutal reality of this.
00:23:39.020 And I voted for Trump and I voted for peace, but he didn't do it, bro.
00:23:43.900 So we'll see what happens here.
00:23:47.380 And you know, I don't think Putin has any interest in conceit.
00:23:52.360 Okay.
00:23:52.640 So let me ask you a question.
00:23:53.680 What do you think are Putin's top three goals at this point?
00:23:58.920 Putin's top three goals?
00:23:59.860 Why is Putin doing this?
00:24:01.360 Because I'm pretty sure if he stopped talking Ukraine, Ukraine would stop defending themselves
00:24:05.040 and be like, all right, truce.
00:24:07.000 It's not like Ukraine is trying to take over Russia.
00:24:09.640 So ask the very simple question.
00:24:11.720 Why is Putin doing this?
00:24:13.500 I think he's pretty public about what he wants to do.
00:24:16.260 What does he want to do?
00:24:17.360 He's pretty public about telling NATO, stop trying to force Ukraine to join you.
00:24:21.820 Okay.
00:24:22.380 Period.
00:24:23.020 That's number one.
00:24:23.620 Number one.
00:24:24.100 Number two, he wants to get the east side of Ukraine to say, this is our land.
00:24:28.320 Okay.
00:24:28.760 Okay.
00:24:29.540 That's clear.
00:24:30.140 It's not like it's unclear about that.
00:24:33.020 And I think aside from that, what else would you add to it?
00:24:36.480 So the only other thing that I would add to that, I think that you're two out of three.
00:24:39.160 I think the third thing, which goes back to my initial point, is I think he wants to put the band back together.
00:24:45.660 I think he wants to do the USSR thing 2.0.
00:24:49.080 No.
00:24:49.540 That's what, not no.
00:24:50.660 You can say that.
00:24:51.240 Why do you think Poland, Estonia, Latvia, all these countries, Lithuania, that used to be part of the USSR, are doubling their defense budget?
00:24:59.440 Yeah.
00:24:59.800 You should.
00:25:00.140 If they weren't concerned, they'd be like, yeah, don't worry.
00:25:02.460 No, you should.
00:25:03.180 Don't worry about it.
00:25:03.540 You should do that.
00:25:04.000 So they're very concerned.
00:25:05.260 Yeah.
00:25:05.460 It's preventative.
00:25:06.120 I just don't know if that's going to be going back to USSR.
00:25:09.160 You know how the oligarchs would do?
00:25:10.820 Well, you know what the oligarchs of Russia would do to him if he wanted to do that?
00:25:14.000 You know what they would do to him?
00:25:15.420 You know what would happen over there?
00:25:16.720 You don't think these guys are sitting there.
00:25:18.560 In order for him to continue with his power, he needs the help of the billionaires.
00:25:21.820 Do you think the billionaires are going to want him to go back to communism and the control and capitalism and business leaves and money leaves?
00:25:28.360 No.
00:25:29.760 He does that.
00:25:30.640 He's going to lose a lot of the support that he has.
00:25:33.100 I generally don't know the answer to this, but I don't think he gives two shits about the oligarchs.
00:25:37.300 I think you're right that he doesn't give two shits.
00:25:40.360 But guess what he knows?
00:25:42.560 He needs them.
00:25:44.440 He needs them.
00:25:45.100 You think Trump gets elected without Musk?
00:25:46.800 Nope.
00:25:46.960 You think Trump gets elected without—
00:25:47.960 The difference is Trump needs money.
00:25:50.340 Putin will take the money.
00:25:53.940 You know, your company, I own it now.
00:25:55.920 Your boats, I own it now.
00:25:57.600 Your riches, your ripples, I own them now.
00:26:00.740 Let's go to the next door.
00:26:01.440 Putin will take what the hell he wants.
00:26:03.160 Guys, my goal was in 30 minutes to try to solve this entire problem.
00:26:06.280 I think we did it.
00:26:06.780 I just want to let you know.
00:26:07.500 I'm so disappointed with us, but we'll move on to the next door.
00:26:10.160 Vinny, I have a Ukraine bid for you, buddy.
00:26:11.820 Yeah, we are definitely—
00:26:12.620 I know exactly where you're going to put it, too.
00:26:14.020 We are definitely moving on.
00:26:15.140 Oh, my gosh.
00:26:17.140 Last year, we ran one of the coolest contests ever.
00:26:20.660 And I thought it was going to be a basic dinner and meet and greet and all this other stuff.
00:26:24.800 It turned into a massive spectacle.
00:26:26.860 It was a Manette contest for two months for lightweight, middleweight, heavyweight, and super heavyweight.
00:26:31.480 And even users got involved.
00:26:33.120 And we invited the top three.
00:26:34.600 You pay your flight, hotel, all that stuff.
00:26:36.000 But once you came here, we went to dinner together at Casa D'Angelo, top-notch dinner.
00:26:40.300 Then we went to the cigar lounge.
00:26:42.280 And it was such a great time.
00:26:43.920 We stayed together until midnight.
00:26:45.020 We had six and a half hours of conversations.
00:26:47.320 I'm going to show you the highlight from last year.
00:26:49.860 Then I want to announce this contest for all of you guys to compete in from June to July.
00:26:54.800 And the dinner will be sometime in August.
00:26:56.480 Rob, play this clip.
00:26:57.160 Go for it.
00:26:57.580 We just had our first Manette dinner.
00:27:01.560 Let me tell you, it was so awesome because we had the dinner.
00:27:03.920 It was absolutely an amazing experience.
00:27:08.300 The conversations, the networking, great.
00:27:14.480 People from all over the world.
00:27:16.380 So I said, maybe I'll stick around for an hour, maybe an hour and a half.
00:27:19.460 But then afterward, we came right here at the cigar lounge.
00:27:25.420 I stayed till midnight.
00:27:27.340 We had six and a half hours of conversation.
00:27:30.460 That was fantastic.
00:27:31.800 Yeah.
00:27:32.280 So if you weren't there, you missed it.
00:27:33.920 We wish you were there.
00:27:34.860 But I'll give you one counsel.
00:27:39.820 We're about to announce the next contest.
00:27:42.360 Do not miss the next Manette contest.
00:27:46.560 And I hope to see you there.
00:27:49.960 By the way, it was so great.
00:27:51.280 Deals were done.
00:27:52.240 Relationships were built.
00:27:53.480 Conversations.
00:27:54.020 So go download the app if you haven't yet.
00:27:55.960 Whether it's Apple or Google.
00:27:57.840 Start Manette Inc.
00:27:58.880 Ask questions.
00:28:00.320 Nowadays, we got Ray Lewis that's officially on Manette.
00:28:02.980 And he's responding back to people on Manette.
00:28:04.900 By the way, Stephen A. Smith's going to get active on Manette on today or tomorrow.
00:28:08.660 Starting his account for people can ask Stephen A. questions.
00:28:11.040 James O'Keefe.
00:28:11.520 Anna Kasparian.
00:28:12.440 James O'Keefe.
00:28:13.260 Paul Saladino.
00:28:14.260 Terrence Howard.
00:28:15.540 Cuomo.
00:28:15.900 There are so many great people.
00:28:17.800 Lindy Lee is crushing it on Manette the way that it's going.
00:28:21.280 And by the way, who knows who's going to be at this dinner when we host this.
00:28:24.140 So if you like good conversations, if you want to come to South Florida, we're going
00:28:27.400 to probably give you a tour to headquarters as well when you come down here.
00:28:29.600 Then go straight to dinner.
00:28:30.840 Then go straight to the Cigar Lines, which is a private club.
00:28:33.560 But some of you guys will have a chance to be a part of it.
00:28:36.320 And by then, we have a lot of new surprises with the private club.
00:28:39.100 So you'll get a chance to tour as well.
00:28:40.460 So download the app.
00:28:42.080 Start Manetteing.
00:28:42.860 Start competing.
00:28:43.480 The update on the Leaders Bulletin will be on Manette.com.
00:28:46.260 Rob, if you go to Manette.com, just go to Manette.com.
00:28:48.520 And if you look at the contest, on the experts, that's how it works.
00:28:52.400 Okay?
00:28:52.720 If you look at a lightweight right now at the top is Dean Mason.
00:28:55.700 James O'Keefe right now is second place.
00:28:57.220 Then it's Luis Concior.
00:28:58.260 Go to a middleweight, Rob.
00:29:00.080 Middleweight right now is John Mason.
00:29:02.260 Then Lily Tam.
00:29:03.120 Then it's James Murphy.
00:29:04.380 Let's go to heavyweight.
00:29:05.460 Heavyweight.
00:29:05.980 Because everybody from heavyweight goes to super heavyweight.
00:29:07.940 So it's Daniel number one.
00:29:09.260 Daniel.
00:29:09.720 Michael Maher, Matt Cipolla.
00:29:10.880 Then it's super heavyweight.
00:29:12.500 Is what?
00:29:13.320 Super heavyweight is Lindy Lee, myself, Timothy Ryan, O'Shauna Tom Sauce, Dennis Poneman,
00:29:18.320 and a couple other guys.
00:29:19.160 By the way, the scoring will be the following.
00:29:20.840 To compete the next two months, lightweight will have to do a minimum of 200 points.
00:29:24.620 You have to be lightweight today.
00:29:25.780 You can go up.
00:29:26.900 But we're going to calculate your points from today.
00:29:28.520 Middleweight, you have to do a minimum of 400.
00:29:31.120 Heavyweight is a minimum of 400 points.
00:29:32.640 And super heavyweight has to be 1,500 points.
00:29:34.980 And the user's contest, go to user's wrap, a new user goes out there, 200 points you score.
00:29:42.220 New users, existing user has to be 400 points.
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