Valuetainment - June 14, 2026


“Who LEAKED from the SITUATION ROOM?” - Epstein Book Turns Trump’s Team on Each Other


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The New York Times has a new book coming out called Inside the White House Freakout over Epstein Files. It details the scandal surrounding Jeffrey Epstein and his relationship with John F. Kennedy Jr. and the cover-up surrounding it.

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00:00:30.000 inside the white house freak out over epstein files this story dropped a book that's coming
00:00:36.200 out umberto can you verify the exact date this book is coming out i think the book is coming out
00:00:40.000 june 23rd it's called the regime change and this book will be a massive book that everybody will
00:00:47.900 be reading because it called out everybody in the white house with things that are going on
00:00:53.160 with the epstein files so let me read some of the story for you guys on what's in here and then tom
00:00:57.660 I'm going to come to you because I know you've gone through the first five chapters.
00:01:00.920 Inside the White House Freakout over Epstein Files.
00:01:04.660 This is by Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan.
00:01:07.940 So let me read some of this stuff to you if you want to go to the article.
00:01:10.760 So let me read some of this stuff to you.
00:01:12.220 So we go through a couple things here.
00:01:13.920 Number one, they needed a gesture of transparency to appease an increasingly angry base,
00:01:19.520 but also a way to convey the message that the president was sympathetic to supporters' concerns.
00:01:23.920 Now, keep in mind, this is not a Trump supporter.
00:01:26.200 This is still New York Times.
00:01:28.100 Never forget that.
00:01:28.820 So let me go through it.
00:01:30.100 J.D. Vance took a seat at the head of the table in the John F. Kennedy conference room
00:01:33.480 in the Situation Room complex and said, this is a huge problem.
00:01:37.640 He told the group arrayed around him where the White House Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles,
00:01:43.480 then you have White House Counsel, David Warrington, Press Secretary, Caroline Levitt,
00:01:46.900 then you had a few other people that are there and they're having this conversation,
00:01:49.980 and the Deputy Chief of Staff, James Blair, then you have Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Speaker of the House.
00:01:54.140 Now, Tom, do they share with everybody who the whistleblowers is in this article?
00:02:00.580 No, the article has become this giant book, and they don't share exactly where they get the data from.
00:02:08.060 But when you look at this, and I'm not the only one, the people that have read what I'm estimating at about five chapters of excerpts,
00:02:15.740 because the book doesn't come out until June 23rd, as you pointed out.
00:02:18.580 What you see here is a very well-written and very well-presented synopsis of what went on.
00:02:28.140 They have got multiple sources.
00:02:30.200 That's my feeling here.
00:02:31.680 And the multiple sources appear to be rationally presenting things, and they're also showing you backstory on things that there are other events that they connected to.
00:02:41.340 It's like Bongino left the building on this day and went here and here, and they're like, wait a minute.
00:02:46.560 We talk to him here, then we talk to him there.
00:02:49.500 Those dots connect.
00:02:50.700 So 0 to 10, where do you score the credibility of the facts of this book?
00:02:54.320 Right now on its face, about an 8. 0.99
00:02:56.420 And I don't see any counter articles coming out, oh, you're full of crap. 1.00
00:02:59.820 Here's the seven ways you're full of crap. 1.00
00:03:02.340 It's still early. 0.99
00:03:02.920 So maybe we get it between now and Monday.
00:03:04.740 You don't think there'll be somebody overnight that we get after this?
00:03:07.080 I think so, but still it's a little early.
00:03:08.680 You know, sometimes people are reacting.
00:03:09.920 So we'll see what happened today.
00:03:11.260 So let me read through some of this stuff, folks.
00:03:13.020 And then, Tom, I'm going to come to you first because I know you've gone through the whole thing.
00:03:15.460 So Vance had bought into the darkest theory about Epstein and a cabal of predators hidden within the country's ruling class.
00:03:22.920 Wiles would tell others that the vice president had proved himself to be a major conspiracy theorist.
00:03:29.080 OK, that's the story.
00:03:30.640 And Vance floated to colleagues an extraordinary PR gambit.
00:03:33.960 The White House should enlist Tucker Carlson to interview Epstein's longtime girlfriend and co-conspirator, Jelaine Maxwell, in prison.
00:03:41.760 OK, better to rip off the bandage instead of moving on.
00:03:44.400 Let me continue reading on what happens here.
00:03:46.820 Then it goes into, you know, what they were thinking about doing next.
00:03:50.780 Maxwell could be given a pardon, he said, or she could have her sentence reduced.
00:03:55.160 This is Warrington.
00:03:55.860 The White House counsel responded by laying out the available choices without advocating any of them.
00:04:01.560 At that, several around the table spoke up to register their strong disapproval.
00:04:06.680 Pardoning Maxwell, a trafficker of young girls, would create a huge PR problem, Stephen Chunk said.
00:04:13.320 He predicted that in the wake of the pardon, Epstein accusers would be fanning out of a TV, telling their stories and ripping the administration to shreds.
00:04:20.700 Blair also adamantly opposed the pardon.
00:04:23.260 We can't offer Jelaine Maxwell anything.
00:04:25.800 A, I don't know why we would.
00:04:27.700 And B, if we give Jelaine Maxwell any sort of break whatsoever and then she turns around and says nice things about us or says nice things about us and give her a break, it will undermine the entire point of her saying good things.
00:04:39.520 That will feed the conspiracy theory, period.
00:04:41.740 If there's nothing for her to say that hurts us, we shouldn't have to offer her anything.
00:04:47.040 It continues.
00:04:48.280 Shortly after this, the president posted again he was going along with the plan, situation room.
00:04:52.620 He didn't like having to do it.
00:04:53.720 Based on the ridiculous amount of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I have asked Attorney General Pam Bondi.
00:04:58.380 So this is where Pam Bondi comes in to produce all of the pertinent grand jury testimony subject to the court approval.
00:05:04.920 This is a scam perpetuated by Democrats and should end right now.
00:05:08.180 You remember this whole picture where everybody came in and they're saying, hey, you know, we got all the notes, we got everything, we're going to share it with you.
00:05:13.920 Okay, so then we reacted to it.
00:05:16.040 Continuing, as this is going on, Patel privately shared many of Bongino's concerns, but in an internal, for weeks, Patel and Bongino, the deputy FBI director, had grown more infuriated as they realized the scale of the mess for which they were now being blamed.
00:05:31.560 Because the market was blaming them.
00:05:33.080 Now remember, this is not an article that's a pro-cash Patel and pro, what do you call it, Bongino.
00:05:38.600 They don't like Trump.
00:05:39.700 They don't like this administration.
00:05:41.180 So they're not fans of any of these guys, right?
00:05:44.240 Bongino hated the Justice Department.
00:05:45.940 Nothing to see here memo had been drawn for public release.
00:05:49.420 He told Patel this would in no way align with the promises of transparency after taking over FBI,
00:05:54.460 and he objected to putting the FBI seal on his letterhead, but he was overruled.
00:05:58.580 Patel privately shared many of Bongino's concerns, but in an internal email on July 2nd,
00:06:03.260 the FBI director gave his support to the memo.
00:06:05.280 Thanks for the edits.
00:06:05.980 I still believe this is correct.
00:06:07.100 vehicle forward. Patel wrote to the occasional
00:06:09.440 typo to a small group of colleagues
00:06:11.520 including Blanche, I'm happy to add any additional
00:06:13.540 sentence to complete
00:06:15.000 to compete the shortfall, but I do think we address
00:06:17.640 specifically why more
00:06:19.520 can't be released as it relates
00:06:21.580 to the specific topics, i.e. court, etc.
00:06:23.760 etc. Okay, so then it continues.
00:06:26.860 Then you see
00:06:27.540 the footage that comes out that the one minute was
00:06:29.420 missing. We all reacted to it. I think we reacted
00:06:31.500 to it God knows how many times on the podcast
00:06:33.640 This is the jail video. And then all
00:06:35.520 of a sudden, shit hits the fan. Watch this. The day the memo was released, Bongino showed 1.00
00:06:40.800 up to a Justice Department meeting with the FBI staff and Attorney General. He was in
00:06:45.500 a volcanic mood. As soon as he entered the room, he erupted at Bondi, shouting at her,
00:06:50.820 you effed this thing up from the start, Bongino yelled. The way you've been talking about
00:06:56.340 this, that dumb effing charade with the Epstein files, and they're on my desk nonsense, all 0.95
00:07:01.680 the promises to the folks out there patel and bongino both subsequently told the white house 0.77
00:07:06.500 official that bondi needed to resign two days later on july 2nd the two men were summoned to
00:07:12.360 a meeting with wiles and bondi in the situation room complex they were the last entered a small
00:07:16.300 wood paneled room seated around the table where bondi wiles blanched taylor uh butter which one
00:07:22.560 of wiles deputies the moment bongino sat down wiles told him that she had been informed watch
00:07:27.040 this he leaked a sensitive story about epstein and trump to abc news and bongino replied i'll tell
00:07:35.160 you what i'll give you a hundred thousand dollars cash right now i'm not kidding walk out to the
00:07:39.240 west exec put the reporter on speaker and get him to admit i admit i leaked it to him a hundred 0.99
00:07:44.820 thousand dollars while snap back well we all got ourselves into this shit and bongino cut her off 0.97
00:07:51.400 no no no no no no we didn't get ourselves into this i warned you guys about the whole time and 0.98
00:07:55.780 you ignore me and exactly what I said was going to happen happened and now you're pretending I
00:08:00.740 was in on this I was never in on this Bongino aggressive response to Wiles startled the others 0.64
00:08:05.880 she was the White House chief of staff essentially in a stand-in for the president Wiles put Bongino
00:08:10.620 on the spot going forward we're all in we're all going to agree to move forward are you in or not
00:08:17.220 no I'm not Bongino said this is not my plan I'm not part of this going forward forget about it
00:08:23.260 I'm out of here. He stormed out of the Situation Room
00:08:25.260 into the West Executive Avenue
00:08:26.580 where he climbed into the back of Patel's
00:08:29.240 armored SUV and directed the
00:08:31.220 driver to take him to the FBI headquarters.
00:08:33.080 Some of Bongino's close friends hoped he would resign right there
00:08:35.380 and act of protest that would
00:08:37.220 give him a MAGA martyr and only
00:08:39.280 increase his following, but the White House advisor intervened
00:08:41.420 urging him to stay if he quit Epstein
00:08:43.120 and when public it was severely damaged.
00:08:45.220 The President Bongino told associates he would remain for
00:08:47.180 Trump's sake and keep pushing
00:08:49.200 for more Epstein
00:08:51.200 information to be released. I've got a few more
00:08:53.240 things to read here but a part of it is charlie kirk's which is this next part's very interesting
00:08:57.700 with charlie kirk in the story in a conversation with confidence he lamented that with the job
00:09:02.260 cost of millions of dollars in podcast revenue family time his audience one time he talked about
00:09:06.640 it that my wife and i have been separated for nine months not literally separated but we're not seeing
00:09:10.420 each other for nine months you can imagine how he goes from making 20 30 million here however much
00:09:14.700 money was making to now talking about bongino bongino's one of the biggest shareholders of
00:09:18.900 Rumble, by the way, and it was the number one show there. 1.00
00:09:21.340 And so Blondie effed this whole thing up.
00:09:24.060 Bongino later told the Confident Echo and Loomers,
00:09:25.860 the derisive nickname for the Attorney General,
00:09:28.940 she was the one on TV saying over and over again 0.88
00:09:30.980 that all this stuff, they never happened.
00:09:33.140 We were always clear about it, but now everyone thinks
00:09:35.960 we did something wrong, and I give up everything.
00:09:38.140 Bongino complained that he had given up his high-rated show,
00:09:40.200 millions of dollars, and now it's all about to disappear.
00:09:42.740 So this is the part that gets tricky with TPUSA and Charlie Kirk.
00:09:45.820 Trump told aides he was very unhappy with some of the most influential supporters, including Kirk Carlson and Megyn Kelly, all of whom were publicly urging the administration to come clean.
00:09:56.180 Kirk had held the Turning Point USA event the previous day that turned into an Epstein grievance fest with one speaker after another speaker bashing Bondi over her, handing the situation.
00:10:05.500 Trump called Kirk and scolded him.
00:10:07.360 OK, this is the story.
00:10:08.400 Nobody in the Trump's orbit had a better feel for the younger part of MAGA base than Kirk, who saw that the Epstein cover-up, as it was now viewed, was capturing attention to an alarming extent.
00:10:20.220 Donald Trump Jr. and J.D. Vance, both of whom spent considerable time on X, were tapped into the same younger and hyper-online portion of the base, were also worried.
00:10:28.360 Charlie, apparently, I think the TPUSA crew responded to this and said this call did happen, and they remember when this call happened, and the president was furious.
00:10:38.400 I think TPUSA, Andrew Covert, may have said it.
00:10:40.500 If I'm not mistaken, they responded to it, right?
00:10:42.460 Yeah.
00:10:42.820 Furious, why, Pat?
00:10:44.740 Yeah.
00:10:45.200 What is that?
00:10:45.860 Oh, this is the tweet.
00:10:47.220 Okay, this is the tweet.
00:10:48.100 It was actually very widely supported at the time that President Trump called Charlie in July.
00:10:55.580 What is that?
00:10:56.300 SAS?
00:10:56.920 I don't know what that is.
00:10:59.020 We had gone.
00:11:00.200 Can you zoom in, guys? 0.99
00:11:01.120 Listen, I can't read shit right now. 0.95
00:11:02.460 Zoom in. 0.99
00:11:02.720 Yeah.
00:11:03.140 Pretty hard on the Epstein topic at the conference.
00:11:05.320 Urgent lawful transparency.
00:11:06.280 Student action summit.
00:11:06.440 Student action summit.
00:11:07.140 That's a turning point.
00:11:07.540 There were actually two calls that happened during the student action summit.
00:11:11.200 President Trump was pretty upset in the first call.
00:11:13.380 This is true.
00:11:13.900 He thought too many of his supporters were buying into the Democratic tactic to use Epstein conservatives.
00:11:18.480 That was the first call was pretty sure.
00:11:19.580 But then there was a second call, I believe around 30 to 60 minutes after the call.
00:11:23.060 I asked Charlie how it went.
00:11:24.540 He said to me, we're all good, meaning the president had to talk.
00:11:27.260 Charlie said it was a warm call that the president told Charlie he was doing a great job and that the admin was working on the solutions.
00:11:32.840 Charlie communicated that the grassroots wasn't going to move on easily,
00:11:36.640 but was glad to hear things were in motion.
00:11:39.000 I remember this well because he caught a bunch of bad headlines
00:11:41.580 after the following Monday show for saying he was done talking about Epstein
00:11:45.640 for the time being, and he said he was going to trust his friends
00:11:49.120 and the ball is in their court to fix it.
00:11:51.460 Charlie was upset by the coverage because of that.
00:11:53.940 So I'll stop here.
00:11:55.440 Tom, your thoughts, what else you got from the five chapters you read so far?
00:11:58.920 So what I read so far, two things came to mind.
00:12:02.600 Number one, there was dysfunction in the White House.
00:12:05.880 And this is not a newsflash.
00:12:07.280 And I'm not trying to criticize people.
00:12:08.860 We know some of these people.
00:12:10.140 We think highly of them.
00:12:11.380 But it was clearly there was like a strategic dysfunction and there were multiple camps.
00:12:16.180 And there was not one unified point here.
00:12:20.300 And it also shows that the one person who was leading all of the law enforcement stuff,
00:12:27.480 Pam Bondi, apparently made three mistakes.
00:12:31.260 Mistake number one, she got recorded at a restaurant.
00:12:34.740 That's not rumor.
00:12:35.800 That's not speculation.
00:12:37.020 That's what happened.
00:12:38.520 Mistake number two, they put these binders out.
00:12:41.600 And apparently the Justice Department, Cash, and others didn't know what was in them.
00:12:48.500 And apparently there was nothing new.
00:12:50.540 And when the media got a hold of one and looked through it, because I think Benny got one, a few people got them, there wasn't really anything new in that.
00:13:00.060 And then her saying, they're on my desk, and then saying there's 10,000 videos, but things didn't come out of it.
00:13:07.720 So Pam appeared to be saying things to the media coming out.
00:13:11.100 And now we have very rational appearing reporting that shows that a lot of people are like, what are we doing?
00:13:17.980 What is the strategy, Pam?
00:13:19.840 And the last that I got out of this, it really looks like Dan Bongino was a rational partner,
00:13:25.600 An outsider legitimately defending the president, trying to come to Washington, trying to make a difference, and immediately being in the middle of something heavy.
00:13:36.740 And I followed the timeline, and I went back, and right in the middle of what you were reading was when Kash Patel and Dan Bongino did a side-by-side interview.
00:13:47.720 And this wasn't just what we said. Everybody said, is this an interview with the Department of Justice between Bongino and Patel?
00:13:55.960 Or is this a hostage video? Yeah, they look like they were stiff.
00:14:00.020 They look concerned. It didn't look convincing, which is what you want.
00:14:04.100 Everybody remembers that. The more I the more I read through this, Pat, the more I felt bad because it really seems like a dysfunctional.
00:14:13.260 So war happened at the White House between these angles, and we see a lot of it here.
00:14:18.260 So here's my question for you.
00:14:19.640 Is there anything specific you want to go to? 0.97
00:14:22.020 Like anything specific that stuck your, you know, that you were like, holy shit, this is bad. 0.91
00:14:26.000 I think this confirms why Bongino left. 0.53
00:14:28.260 This confirms why Bondi left.
00:14:30.260 So all the speculation, I think, goes out the door.
00:14:32.720 But my question, Tom, is the umbrella, why?
00:14:36.560 Why all the lying?
00:14:38.460 Why all the deceit?
00:14:39.680 Why all the secrecy all the way from the top?
00:14:41.860 because this isn't a democrat tactic it's when everybody's talking about the cabal and all the
00:14:47.940 people i gotta stop you i think you should say confusion not lying well well all the lying from
00:14:52.780 the top i think it's there was a lot of confusion here well hold on were they putting out false
00:14:56.460 information at all to the public about these people and covering tom i don't know did bongino
00:15:02.600 or cash say things that they believed at the time were correct i'm not saying cash and bunch i'm
00:15:06.640 just saying in general you don't think that we've been lied to about this whole epstein debacle
00:15:10.940 the putting up fake stuff and the holding up the binders and all that stuff.
00:15:15.520 Tom, this seems like it's made.
00:15:16.940 The Andrew COVID talking about the Kirk video is a number one or a number two.
00:15:21.920 Tom, this is way up there for me.
00:15:24.040 We're talking about underage people that they were trafficking
00:15:27.120 and they were hooking up with,
00:15:28.340 and they're talking about giving Ghislaine a pardon.
00:15:31.460 At the top of this whole thing.
00:15:33.600 There's two things.
00:15:34.580 By the way, just so you know,
00:15:35.980 every one of these things I just read, I can visualize happening.
00:15:40.000 100%.
00:15:40.440 what kind of conversations do you think you have when you're in the room
00:15:43.120 and what do you think you're trying to protect?
00:15:44.900 Honestly, what do you think you're doing?
00:15:46.820 You think when you're in that situation,
00:15:49.700 you're going to come out and tell 100% of the truth on everything?
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00:16:29.060 Any shittier jobs than dealing with the FBI and, you know,
00:16:32.460 dealing with, you know, these types of things that these guys are doing.
00:16:35.140 But there's two things I want to ask here.
00:16:38.080 Maybe this is the wrong question to ask, but I'm thinking about this.
00:16:43.840 So when they walked into the room, and it's Wiles, Bongino, and who else was in that room?
00:16:51.120 Todd Blanche.
00:16:52.020 And who else?
00:16:52.480 And Cash.
00:16:53.140 And Cash.
00:16:54.860 So this is the only question I got.
00:16:57.760 One of those four talked to New York Times.
00:17:00.960 That's it.
00:17:01.400 Absolutely correct.
00:17:01.720 So which one of those four did?
00:17:03.200 Very good question.
00:17:03.700 So think about that.
00:17:04.460 I don't think it's Todd Blanche.
00:17:04.820 That's not Susie Wiles.
00:17:05.900 I don't think it's Todd Blanche because that's Trump's lawyer.
00:17:07.740 It's not going to be Susie.
00:17:08.940 Nope. 0.64
00:17:09.360 It's not going to be Blanche. 0.92
00:17:10.340 Not Blanche.
00:17:10.620 So then it's who?
00:17:12.420 It's Pam Bondi or it's Bongino.
00:17:15.180 Now, here's the question.
00:17:16.120 Does this article make Bondi look good?
00:17:18.380 Absolutely not.
00:17:20.120 Why does it make her look good?
00:17:21.720 No, no.
00:17:22.300 Did you understand what I'm saying?
00:17:25.000 I don't know if you understand what I'm saying here.
00:17:26.760 What am I saying here?
00:17:27.580 They know what I'm saying here.
00:17:29.640 Did you understand what I'm saying or no?
00:17:31.220 Are you saying that it could have been Bongino?
00:17:33.020 Who else?
00:17:33.840 I mean, who else is in the room?
00:17:35.140 unless if there's a drone, small little mosquito-sized camera
00:17:38.320 flying around and recording everything.
00:17:40.100 So, by the way, why could it be Bongino?
00:17:43.080 Why could it be Bongino?
00:17:44.080 Because he's not happy with the way that it's going. 0.99
00:17:46.240 Dude, is there a person that's taking a more heat for this bullshit than Bongino? 1.00
00:17:51.540 No. 1.00
00:17:52.220 Is there somebody that's taking more shit for this than him? 1.00
00:17:55.520 No. 1.00
00:17:56.500 Everybody's blamed him.
00:17:57.860 Everybody is saying that, you know, what happened here.
00:18:01.280 Now, by the way, this article, let's go through this.
00:18:02.800 Just ask this question, Tom.
00:18:04.240 Who does this article make look bad?
00:18:06.540 Make the list of names.
00:18:07.840 Let's go through it.
00:18:08.500 Let's play a game.
00:18:09.460 Who does this article make look bad?
00:18:11.860 Bondi. 0.80
00:18:12.360 So I want to go bad, horrible, neutral, good. 0.96
00:18:16.620 So let's go horrible.
00:18:18.440 Bondi's there.
00:18:19.180 I think Bondi is horrible.
00:18:20.220 Absolutely.
00:18:20.620 Then you got bad.
00:18:21.980 Then you got neutral.
00:18:23.600 Then you got good.
00:18:26.400 Okay.
00:18:26.840 Cash does not look too good.
00:18:27.460 So it makes Bongino look good.
00:18:29.040 Good.
00:18:29.500 He deserves it.
00:18:29.800 Does it make Cash look bad?
00:18:32.060 Or is Cash like neutral?
00:18:33.200 Neutral.
00:18:33.320 I think Cash is neutral.
00:18:35.280 How about Wiles? 0.75
00:18:36.260 Where do you put Susie? 1.00
00:18:38.560 She's doing a little damage control, but I don't know. 0.92
00:18:40.500 Bad or neutral?
00:18:41.440 I think it's more neutral. 0.82
00:18:42.340 She's trying to do her job.
00:18:43.760 I'm with you.
00:18:44.340 Who else?
00:18:45.020 Tucker, where do you put Tucker?
00:18:46.480 I think it's neutral.
00:18:47.400 He was going to do the interview.
00:18:48.680 Okay, great.
00:18:49.500 And Megyn Kelly and all them in there, too, right? 0.58
00:18:50.280 I think Megyn Kelly is neutral.
00:18:51.900 It's not good.
00:18:52.540 It's not bad.
00:18:53.000 It's just neutral.
00:18:53.760 Let's mention.
00:18:54.600 Who else is good or bad?
00:18:56.080 Where does Trump end up looking in here?
00:18:57.700 Where is Trump bad?
00:18:58.180 Okay, so Trump's going to be in the bad category.
00:19:00.380 Okay, who else?
00:19:00.840 What does J.D. look in this?
00:19:02.580 J.D. Vance, I think, is actually – what was he saying here?
00:19:05.580 He's like, bro, you guys – well, they're calling him the theorist,
00:19:08.840 but he's like, bro, I'm seeing the stuff.
00:19:10.480 So where do you want to put J.D. here?
00:19:11.980 I think J.D. doesn't look good.
00:19:13.300 You think J.D. looks good or bad?
00:19:14.600 Yeah, I think he looks good.
00:19:15.680 Where do you put Tom?
00:19:16.340 You think J.D. looks good?
00:19:17.620 I don't think he looks good.
00:19:19.380 I think he looks a little – I'm like halfway between neutral and bad
00:19:22.200 because they're saying Susie Wiles said the vice president's a conspiracy theorist.
00:19:25.840 Yeah, but if he's right, like if he's right, that's the point.
00:19:28.740 So that could be a good –
00:19:29.700 How about if I put J.D. as neutral?
00:19:31.880 Who else do we have?
00:19:34.140 Jelaine Maxwell. 0.74
00:19:35.020 Does she look good, bad, or it's irrelevant?
00:19:36.600 She looks who she is. 1.00
00:19:38.340 She's horrible. 1.00
00:19:39.340 We're going to put Jelaine here because they don't want to have anything. 1.00
00:19:42.000 Blanche, how does Blanche look? 1.00
00:19:45.040 Blanche, like I said, used to be his lawyer. 0.73
00:19:46.920 Now they put him as agent.
00:19:47.840 I would put him as neutral.
00:19:49.460 Okay, great.
00:19:50.720 But always when stories like this come out, always pay attention to two people.
00:19:57.040 Those who look horrible, those who look good.
00:19:59.700 It's that simple.
00:20:01.540 It's over.
00:20:02.580 You understand what happened right there?
00:20:03.960 So who's the horrible guy?
00:20:05.240 So guess what?
00:20:05.820 Bondi looks horrible.
00:20:06.920 Bondi is number one on steroids at the highest level.
00:20:11.500 Okay?
00:20:12.220 At the highest level.
00:20:13.740 And who looks, you know, who looks good is Bongino.
00:20:18.460 Yep, good for him.
00:20:19.220 And do you think a Bongino sat there and says, you know what?
00:20:23.540 The hell with you guys.
00:20:24.540 I had your back. 0.99
00:20:25.260 I had this.
00:20:25.800 I had that.
00:20:26.280 I had this.
00:20:26.780 I had that.
00:20:27.620 I'm not messing with this anymore.
00:20:29.320 Do you think Bongino has access to New York Times?
00:20:31.200 Do you think New York Times reached out to Bongino?
00:20:32.920 Do you think those things are going to be taking place?
00:20:35.300 I mean, so a part of this is, and I'm not saying anything about Bongino.
00:20:41.960 I can tell you when you're a man of character, one of the most annoying things where your brand,
00:20:48.060 like if you're not known, like some brands are not known as man of character.
00:20:52.760 So guess what when your brand is in character?
00:20:54.740 The market tells you. 0.99
00:20:55.520 No, no, you don't give a shit. 1.00
00:20:57.040 You're like, I don't give a shit. 0.99
00:20:57.740 But, you know, I've never branded myself as a good guy. 0.99
00:21:00.700 I'm the heel.
00:21:01.960 I'm the bad guy.
00:21:02.620 Yeah, I did that.
00:21:03.160 Charles Barkley was like, I'm not a hero.
00:21:05.280 I'm not a role model.
00:21:05.940 Yeah.
00:21:06.480 But Bongino's brand has always been what?
00:21:09.780 I'm a secret service.
00:21:10.880 I'm a married guy.
00:21:11.980 I'm honest.
00:21:12.560 Pro-American.
00:21:13.160 Yes.
00:21:13.600 There is nobody that was more annoyed by what happened with Epstein than Bongino.
00:21:19.940 Yeah.
00:21:20.420 Nobody.
00:21:21.060 Because he was innocent.
00:21:21.800 And this article and this book gives redemption to Bongino.
00:21:26.120 And he deserves it.
00:21:26.880 that's what i'm feeling so far and i may be wrong i may be off but that's my thoughts adam you
00:21:33.620 look i'm looking forward to the other chapters and the other things because regime change wasn't
00:21:37.660 just about epstein i i have two thoughts on this i'll isolate each one number one i've always
00:21:43.040 thought that dan bongino was a good guy i mean i i don't need to pat myself on the back but i never
00:21:47.960 got the impression that he was covering things up or he was a bad guy lying i think it was a
00:21:53.020 situation where he you know the whole wizard of oz thing he took look behind the curtain he saw
00:21:57.460 what was going on and tried to make the the best of what the situation is but i have a different
00:22:02.300 opinion on the epstein situation and i know it's a little controversial i happen to find the epstein
00:22:07.500 situation a massive distraction being utilized by the democratic party and what's the distraction
00:22:15.840 at the core distraction they could have done this at any given point during the biden administration
00:22:22.160 the Obama administration why now well maybe maybe it's because during the Biden administration who
00:22:28.680 was the border czar Kamala Harris who was the uh what was Alejandro Mayorkas the Department of
00:22:35.600 Homeland Security yeah how many millions of kids went missing I'm sorry how many millions of people
00:22:40.340 came into the country how many almost hundreds of thousands of kids here's some numbers for you
00:22:44.840 during the last x amount of years 450,000 kids were missing 450 do you know how many the Trump
00:22:51.900 administration has found in the last two years almost 150 000 meaning they found they there's
00:22:58.100 still 300 000 kids missing now what happens to these kids according to uh mark wayne mullen who's
00:23:05.440 the new department of dhs um they were raped they were sexually exploited they were sold they were
00:23:10.800 drugged uh and then here's the kicker where were the vast majority of these kids found
00:23:16.620 they were all found in sanctuary cities so to me when i say the epstein thing is a distraction
00:23:22.660 it's because don't look over here at the hundreds of thousands of kids that are missing they're 0.65
00:23:29.900 being raped being sexually exploited don't look over here let's all pay attention to the epstein 1.00
00:23:35.040 class trump's a racist trump's a pedophile trump's a nazi look over there trump trump trump but don't 1.00
00:23:41.660 look over here don't look at the tens of millions of peoples that came into the country don't look 1.00
00:23:45.380 at the hundreds of thousands of kids are missing and been drugged and raped let's focus on trump 0.99
00:23:49.260 did was epstein a scumbag yes do there's things that need to be held accountable yes 0.99
00:23:53.740 my whole contention is it's been used a distraction by the left and a part of the 0.97
00:23:59.560 right that fell for this and it's all epstein all epstein all everything can i and all these
00:24:03.800 other people can i are left off no adam sometimes you're gonna hire people look uh am i you're
00:24:10.200 saying i'm wrong no no hear me out so when you when you hire a an executive you know you're not
00:24:18.020 always going to get them right you're not and trust me i've gotten them wrong many times and
00:24:23.580 and the onus always falls on you or the people you asked that vouch for that individual okay okay
00:24:29.880 so here the administration hired 4 400 people give or take when you go into the white house
00:24:36.860 Of the 4,400 people that you hired, you got the top 50 that are the most important job,
00:24:41.400 whatever those jobs are.
00:24:42.860 Bondi got a pretty big job.
00:24:44.380 Huge job.
00:24:44.540 Now, the connection of Florida, attorney general, massive job, right?
00:24:47.160 Massive, massive job.
00:24:48.680 And guess what happened?
00:24:50.460 She failed at her job. 0.78
00:24:51.620 Yeah. 0.54
00:24:52.180 At the highest level.
00:24:53.760 But that doesn't mean this stuff didn't happen.
00:24:57.580 That doesn't mean the Epstein stuff didn't happen.
00:25:00.780 The Democrats are going to use, your enemy's going to use whatever.
00:25:03.960 Your enemy's never going to highlight your victories.
00:25:05.960 Never.
00:25:06.860 Like, imagine, like, the guys that make negative videos about us.
00:25:09.400 Go find one video that they highlighted something that you do positive.
00:25:12.420 That's just not how it works.
00:25:13.440 The market doesn't work that way, right?
00:25:15.600 And so, and this isn't like, you know, oh, my God, you know.
00:25:19.560 No, this is how the market works.
00:25:21.000 The market is trying to look for change, conflict, controversy to sell.
00:25:25.240 That's what media makes money off of, those three C-letter words, right?
00:25:29.060 But to undermine this and say this is not a big deal or not,
00:25:34.300 this is coming back in the front.
00:25:35.600 because you know what story kind of set this aside
00:25:38.320 for the last two and a half months?
00:25:39.840 What story?
00:25:40.560 Iran.
00:25:41.000 Iran. 0.90
00:25:41.920 And guess what? 0.68
00:25:42.720 Iran's about to be done. 0.97
00:25:44.120 And when Iran is done, well, Iran's going to be done here soon. 0.98
00:25:46.900 When it's done, this is going to come back up. 0.99
00:25:49.680 This is going to make a comeback.
00:25:50.700 This ain't going away.
00:25:52.080 Just so you know that, like this is not going away anytime soon.
00:25:54.560 I don't think it's going away.
00:25:55.980 But to your credit, yes, you said change, controversy, and conflict.
00:26:00.900 But there's a whole narrative, and I don't want to take more than a second,
00:26:04.800 that they think that Trump started the Iran war
00:26:07.220 as a distraction from
00:26:09.280 Epstein. People are idiots. 1.00
00:26:11.100 That's their job. Let them do that. 1.00
00:26:12.520 That's their job. We're supposed to do that.
00:26:14.880 I'm learning
00:26:16.120 the isolation thing. Is that Epstein thing
00:26:18.600 a real thing? Is it a real problem? Yes.
00:26:20.720 But is it also being used as a
00:26:22.220 distraction to cover up
00:26:24.340 all the situation at the
00:26:26.640 border? I say one thing that you said.
00:26:28.060 You said Mayorkas was your number one enemy.
00:26:30.860 100%. No, no. I love that. 1.00
00:26:32.400 That is a huge problem in itself, and that happened this past four years.
00:26:36.800 Epstein has been around forever, and it wasn't the Democrats that said,
00:26:40.580 hey, we're going to release this and we're going to release that.
00:26:42.980 No, no, it was the Republicans, it was Pam Bondi, it was Cash Patel,
00:26:46.520 and it was Dan Bongino.
00:26:47.660 And then they came in, and everything stopped because, like you said,
00:26:50.600 the curtain was pulled back.
00:26:52.060 But this, don't get me wrong, and he nailed it.
00:26:53.840 Yeah, the Democrats didn't start this.
00:26:55.720 The Democrats went, oh, my God, there's a problem. 0.97
00:26:58.160 Jump on top of it.
00:26:59.060 It was the Republicans.
00:27:00.000 It wasn't a campaign promise.
00:27:01.360 But the moment they won, they're like, hey, guess what?
00:27:03.680 The Epstein files are coming out.
00:27:04.800 Let me tell you what could happen here.
00:27:06.180 Let me tell you what could happen here with the president.
00:27:08.540 Because the president's sitting here.
00:27:10.900 You can take different angles with Epstein on why this upsets the president.
00:27:14.700 Okay?
00:27:15.340 So the people that read the Democrats and the woke right who hates Trump, guess what they want this to be?
00:27:23.220 They want this to be every day.
00:27:24.980 No, no.
00:27:25.000 They want Trump to be on the list because he did something with somebody. 0.85
00:27:29.660 They want to say he is part of that pedophile.
00:27:32.020 The Epstein class.
00:27:33.440 Yeah, but not the class because you could be part of the class because you have money and you're in the circle.
00:27:39.220 But actual action, having gone to the island, not the fact that Clinton went there,
00:27:44.140 not the fact that Clinton's painting is in the middle of Epstein's property that was given to him by Lex Wexner
00:27:51.340 that's, you know, whatever, $77 million gift.
00:27:54.100 No, no, don't focus on that.
00:27:55.420 We got to take Trump out, right?
00:27:57.320 Okay, so number one is Trump's the target.
00:28:01.100 Okay, number two is Mossad's the target.
00:28:04.700 Why?
00:28:05.320 Because he used Epstein to give intel to all these powerful people back to the Mossad.
00:28:10.120 Do I think that happened?
00:28:11.300 I'm 80% that's happened.
00:28:13.400 I'm 80% that that, and there's no way Ehud Barak comes to your house,
00:28:16.020 32, whatever, whatever round of times.
00:28:17.620 Oh, we're just hanging out playing back at him.
00:28:19.100 Stop it.
00:28:19.800 Okay, so there's something going on there.
00:28:21.640 So that's the second thing that they're trying to figure out.
00:28:24.280 What's the third thing?
00:28:25.360 The third thing is, you know, when it comes down to this is, you know, you're dealing with the kids, we have to address this, we have to go, okay, no problem.
00:28:34.160 To me, as you're going through these different issues, the president, if he comes out all of a sudden, and, you know, he says, look, because let's just say the Mossad thing is happening.
00:28:47.060 Let's just say the Mossad-Ebstein thing happened.
00:28:49.440 Who do you think is the most worried about that, if that did happen?
00:28:52.100 actually think if massad did use epstein to gather intel bb on world leaders bb and who else
00:28:59.320 israel yeah of course okay i have a different opinion but but i'm just saying remember i'm
00:29:04.060 saying if yeah everything here is if okay so do you think if this keeps reappearing and annoying
00:29:11.380 the hell out of this and people are saying that trump is protecting who he's protecting the wealthy
00:29:17.040 class, right? The friends and people
00:29:18.960 that gave them money, right? Donors.
00:29:20.940 Epstein class.
00:29:23.280 Do you think a part of that could
00:29:24.960 have happened? Okay, where maybe that's
00:29:26.880 the speculation? Of course. Okay.
00:29:29.140 But if this next phase
00:29:30.840 goes through and Trump is sitting
00:29:32.820 here saying, hey man, I am so sick
00:29:34.900 of this, imagine if Trump comes out and says,
00:29:36.940 look, I don't know if Epstein was
00:29:38.900 selling some intel to
00:29:40.220 Israel. I don't know why Ehud Brock was
00:29:43.000 at Epstein's house all the
00:29:44.900 time. Is Ehud Brock a Democrat or a Republican?
00:29:46.800 and I think he's a lefty, right?
00:29:47.940 He's a Democrat.
00:29:48.960 Okay, so if Trump goes there and says, 0.82
00:29:52.840 hey, I don't know why this Democrat from Israel is coming here.
00:29:56.980 Do I think he would use Epstein to spy on everybody? 0.77
00:29:59.380 I think that's possible.
00:30:00.760 I think if he goes and readjust the messaging
00:30:06.540 and allows the market to say, yeah, maybe there is a –
00:30:09.940 and let Israel defend the argument
00:30:11.760 instead of you having to defend the argument.
00:30:13.600 I don't know if you get what I'm saying.
00:30:14.560 I get it.
00:30:14.960 Put the onus on somebody else to come out there and defend the argument
00:30:17.940 instead of you defending the argument.
00:30:19.280 I don't know.
00:30:20.020 But the reality of it is this story ain't going away.
00:30:22.560 I agree.
00:30:23.000 It ain't going away, and you've got to find a way to protect it.
00:30:26.320 And Bongino probably went out there and said, 0.97
00:30:27.760 look, I'm not going to have myself be the freaking punching bag. 0.96
00:30:31.000 And there was a place Bongino was walking around with his wife, 0.99
00:30:33.720 and a guy came and started saying, you're a pedophile protector.
00:30:36.160 I don't know if you've seen this clip or not.
00:30:37.520 I remember. It's at some event.
00:30:38.640 If you find this on X, you'll see it. 0.97
00:30:40.980 You're a pedophile protector.
00:30:41.860 It's like, how many times can a guy with that kind of pride who does his best to be a good man, how many of those videos can he handle? 0.80
00:30:47.520 Not too many of them.
00:30:48.720 Not too many of them.
00:30:49.620 Not too many people can handle those types of things happening over and over again.
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