Valuetainment - December 19, 2025


＂Words Talk, Numbers SCREAM!＂ - DeSantis DESTROYS Canada's Boycott LIE As Florida Tourism EXPLODES


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In this episode, we talk about Doug Ford's comments about Florida and why they should boycott tourism in the Sunshine State. We also talk about why we should not let a tyrant like Donald Trump dictate our lives. And we have a special guest on the show this week.

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00:00:00.000 So this guy named Doug Ford decided to take a shot at DeSantis.
00:00:04.140 He mocks DeSantis.
00:00:06.540 Then DeSantis mocks Doug Ford because Doug Ford says Florida is hurting.
00:00:12.320 Rob, go ahead and play that clip on Florida hurting.
00:00:14.920 Go for it.
00:00:15.360 The Indians are no longer flying to Florida.
00:00:17.640 They're snowbirds.
00:00:19.140 Basically, it's dried up.
00:00:20.840 There's been an organic boycott of tourism in New America.
00:00:25.980 Do you support that?
00:00:27.340 And are you going to go to Florida this year?
00:00:29.500 Yeah, so let me tell you, it's going to be the first time I'm not going to Florida.
00:00:33.680 But I talked to so many people.
00:00:35.160 Don't let this guy, Trump, determine and ruin your life and everything.
00:00:40.100 That's my personal choice.
00:00:42.080 Maybe some families have gone to Florida their whole lives.
00:00:44.260 Go to Florida.
00:00:45.620 You know, that's great.
00:00:47.480 But I encourage you to stay here and support local tourism.
00:00:51.320 But you can't let one tyrant change their lives, right?
00:00:55.460 You just can't let it happen.
00:00:56.500 And I'm doing it out of my own personal choice because I just can't do it.
00:01:01.960 But don't let this guy change your lives.
00:01:04.240 If you go down and you see, you know, maybe their grandparents are down there.
00:01:07.860 Maybe they're somewhere else.
00:01:09.320 So we'll get through this.
00:01:10.900 But they're hurting down there right now.
00:01:13.640 They're hurting on all fronts.
00:01:14.680 They're hurting on their economy.
00:01:15.520 President Trump is at the lowest rating that any government, any president has been in the first year.
00:01:22.060 And God knows, probably 100 years.
00:01:23.980 So it's taking effect.
00:01:25.680 Okay, pause that.
00:01:26.320 And I always...
00:01:26.880 All right.
00:01:27.500 Now let's go to DeSantis responding.
00:01:29.340 I don't know if he knows what's going on here.
00:01:31.380 Every day, Canadians are moving here, trying to avoid your escape taxes that you have. 0.99
00:01:38.220 Here's Ron DeSantis.
00:01:39.020 Actually, we continue to break tourism records and win the Stanley Cup.
00:01:47.880 Florida breaks its own record again.
00:01:49.560 34.4 million visitors in second quarter of 2025.
00:01:53.180 Tom, what do you have to say about this with what Doug Ford is taking shots at the governor?
00:01:58.400 Well, words, talk, numbers scream.
00:02:00.100 And Ron DeSantis just checked Doug Ford into the boards.
00:02:07.920 Excuse me.
00:02:08.560 I'm over here dying.
00:02:09.760 No, what I was saying is DeSantis absolutely checked Doug Ford into the boards on this.
00:02:14.500 It's like, oh, they're hurting down there.
00:02:16.380 That's just those toss-away comments by a politician who's not looking at the numbers.
00:02:21.120 And is the economy perfect?
00:02:22.960 No.
00:02:23.660 He said, but look at tourism down here.
00:02:26.260 And by the way, all I have to do is look around at the Canadian license plate.
00:02:30.220 There's a hell of a lot of Ontario license plates down here this time of year, which means that they're still down here.
00:02:36.160 Are they down here for tourism?
00:02:37.820 Are they down here for the ultra-cold part of the winter for rheumatism and arthritis and just enjoy the weather and everything?
00:02:47.640 Seems like a lot of them are down here, and it's all happening.
00:02:50.900 So I love my governor.
00:02:52.980 And I love this comment by my governor.
00:02:55.100 I thought it was a beautiful, measured, factual response.
00:02:58.200 And I think that, if anything, up there in Canada, they're really suffering from Trump derangement syndrome,
00:03:05.360 and it frustrates them that certain things are still going well here.
00:03:08.920 I think it just pisses them off because, remember, what percent of the American economy is the Canadian economy?
00:03:18.140 I think the answer is 6.1.
00:03:20.300 Canada is Florida. 0.67
00:03:21.260 Well, I think Canada is only 6.1 of, like, the U.S. economy, 6.1%.
00:03:27.900 So it's like, dude, you need the trading partner.
00:03:31.740 You need this.
00:03:32.660 And in the middle of your socialist hissy fit and debanking truckers and doing all the things you guys have done in the last two years,
00:03:41.940 what have you done to help yourselves outside of political headlines that make it look like you're saying something?
00:03:48.360 They need to get it together because the Canadian people are factually talking to us.
00:03:53.920 We have wonderful Canadians that came down here, moved down here, paid the exit tax.
00:03:59.720 We didn't know them.
00:04:00.640 Pat and I didn't know who these guys are.
00:04:02.220 They introduced themselves at the cigar lounge.
00:04:04.600 Who are you?
00:04:05.080 We're from Canada.
00:04:05.860 We moved down here, and we love your cigar lounge, and now we're members, and we paid the exit tax, and we've emigrated legally.
00:04:12.040 It took us four and a half years to put this together, but we went through the proper channels.
00:04:15.940 And we're like, welcome.
00:04:17.360 What are you going to do?
00:04:18.340 And you remember what they said, Pat?
00:04:19.700 Well, we're going to figure it out, but we're going to start something.
00:04:21.660 Me and Roy here, we're starting something because we had the means to sell our homes and come down here.
00:04:28.200 God bless them.
00:04:29.640 God bless them.
00:04:30.260 But those people left Canada.
00:04:31.980 Two great business partners that have significant wealth just left Canada.
00:04:36.460 And they're at our cigar lounge.
00:04:38.380 They come to the cigar.
00:04:39.000 The guys are like, can I meet other people here, friends?
00:04:41.040 I want to make friends.
00:04:41.600 I said, you're not just going to make friends.
00:04:43.260 You're going to make friends from the exact town you left in Toronto.
00:04:45.800 I go to the other side.
00:04:46.980 I grab Roberto.
00:04:48.040 I go to the other side.
00:04:48.800 I'm like, here, guys, make friends.
00:04:50.140 Yes, Toronto family, same values.
00:04:52.140 Business owners go to dinner together.
00:04:54.060 They're best friends now that they met at the Boardroom Cigar Lounge, which, by the way, Boardroom Cigar Lounge, Rob, if you want to put up the clip, January 2nd to kick it off, we'll be doing a live podcast with Stephen A. Smith on January 2nd to kick off the new year with Stephen A. Smith.
00:05:09.960 It'll be on a Friday night.
00:05:11.180 It'll be our first podcast of the year that we'll be doing at the Cigar Lounge.
00:05:15.040 You've got to be a member to be at the event.
00:05:16.420 You want to learn more, Rob, put the link below for them to go to it.
00:05:18.560 So, Pomp, yourself, when you hear a story like this, you lived here for a couple years.
00:05:24.080 You're back in New York now, okay?
00:05:26.200 When you were down here, what was the experience like?
00:05:28.880 And now going back to New York, do you feel you're becoming more Canadian because you're closer to Canada?
00:05:35.300 Maybe you're going to side with Doug.
00:05:36.780 Where are you at with this?
00:05:37.760 I think Doug Ford, you know, there's this thing of you step on other people in order to try to make yourself seem taller.
00:05:44.780 That seems like Doug Ford's entire strategy, right?
00:05:47.880 If he can put his name in a headline next to Trump, if he can put his name in a headline next to DeSantis, you know, then people know who Doug Ford is.
00:05:55.100 But my guess is that nobody in America really cares about Doug Ford.
00:05:58.100 Nobody knows who he is.
00:05:59.600 And probably in Canada, then I'm going to remember him in a couple of years.
00:06:02.560 The reason being is because if you sit and you constantly just attack everyone, you are destructive.
00:06:10.680 You're not constructive.
00:06:12.040 And history is very kind to people who are constructive, who build things, who create things, who solve problems, who are constantly optimistic and pushing forward.
00:06:20.300 What we have is a very large divergence in politicians.
00:06:24.680 And I'll give you an example here in America that just came out.
00:06:28.500 I don't know if you guys saw the recent video from Bernie Sanders.
00:06:31.200 This one is all time.
00:06:32.240 He wants to put a moratorium on building data centers in America.
00:06:36.660 Okay, why?
00:06:38.300 Because he believes that AI only benefits rich people.
00:06:45.200 And so he's going through this whole thing and you're saying, wait a second, hold on, man.
00:06:47.800 We're locked in a geopolitical competition.
00:06:49.560 Like you heard Trump.
00:06:50.480 You heard DeSantis.
00:06:51.040 You heard they're trying to push this forward.
00:06:52.640 There's got to be some guardrails right there.
00:06:54.300 Somewhat of like a prudent approach to a new technology that's obviously innovative.
00:06:58.460 And Bernie says, yeah, look at this.
00:06:59.180 He wants to put a moratorium on the construction of data centers that are powering the unregulated sprint to develop and deploy AI.
00:07:06.800 Probably the single most important technology that not only, by the way, as you heard Trump talk about in the Oval Office, is going to help push drug development forward.
00:07:15.120 Right?
00:07:15.440 Is going to do all these different things.
00:07:17.060 And then when you listen to this thing, he wants democracy to catch up.
00:07:21.820 I don't even know what that means.
00:07:24.060 Regulation of taxes.
00:07:26.740 That's democracy.
00:07:28.400 Right?
00:07:28.720 But like a normal person would just say that.
00:07:32.300 So, I mean, look, again, forget whatever your politics are, but if you look at a Doug Ford or Bernie Sanders, right?
00:07:37.360 You know, again, sometimes they may have a good idea or two, but these things as they approach AI and this global competition, it just seems like it's all about marketing, but it's not actually about driving results for their citizens.
00:07:49.800 You know what the exit tax is?
00:07:51.300 Like, if you wanted to leave Canada, say you invested into something, a million dollars.
00:07:57.040 You bought a business, now it's worth five million dollars, okay?
00:08:00.180 You're selling, you got four million dollars in capital gains.
00:08:02.660 To exit and leave Canada and take your money, you have to pay your 50% taxes, give or take, so your four million goes to two million, then you can leave Canada and come to Florida.
00:08:13.140 It's like getting divorced.
00:08:13.760 So it's basically the same as the U.S.
00:08:15.040 Yeah.
00:08:15.440 Exit tax is what they got.
00:08:17.200 Would you say that?
00:08:17.540 It's like getting divorced.
00:08:18.540 Oh, my God.
00:08:19.100 Yeah, well, it is a divorce, but they don't want you to leave, but people are leaving in a major way.
00:08:24.900 How often do you run into Canadians here?
00:08:27.060 Oh, a good amount.
00:08:28.000 And like you're saying, it's crazy, like the caliber of people they're losing to.
00:08:31.260 Think about, like, who's being attracted to the things they're saying and then who's being attracted to a place like this.
00:08:36.100 Like, you know, I'll take high help for people like that all day.
00:08:38.880 And, yeah, man, it's like, why is this guy taking a shot at the place in the biggest position of strength?
00:08:44.140 Like, it's objectively false that we're doing bad here.
00:08:47.200 Like, it's the highest growth rate of any of the states aside from Texas.
00:08:49.780 But you've got to love the fact that, and by the way, do you, just a crazy question.
00:08:53.760 Maybe we don't need to spend a lot of time on this.
00:08:55.540 Just a crazy, crazy question.
00:08:57.980 Is there any chance the sentence can be a president one day?
00:09:02.360 Is there any chance?
00:09:03.760 Yeah.
00:09:04.460 Someday.
00:09:04.780 Is there any chance?
00:09:06.660 Is there any chance?
00:09:07.760 Can you ask the poll, Rob?
00:09:09.800 Okay.
00:09:10.700 Within what time frame?
00:09:11.560 What should be the poll, Rob?
00:09:12.740 What should be the poll?
00:09:13.640 In the next 25 years, is it possible?
00:09:16.020 Is there any chance DeSantis will be a president?
00:09:19.840 Put yes, no.
00:09:23.220 What should be the poll?
00:09:24.080 What should be the question?
00:09:25.000 I think the time frame is key.
00:09:26.100 Just put yes or no.
00:09:27.140 Is there any chance DeSantis could be a president one day?
00:09:29.080 Let's see what the audience will say.
00:09:30.440 What do you think, Bob?
00:09:32.220 I don't know.
00:09:33.660 It's a cop-out answer, but I really don't know, right?
00:09:35.860 I mean, look, I can make an argument on both sides.
00:09:37.780 If you want to take a constructive conversation, then Florida is a very fast-growing state.
00:09:42.740 They've got low taxes.
00:09:43.700 I think that there's a lot of people who have moved here, and so people are voting with their dollars and feet, and they want to go there.
00:09:48.420 On the other hand, there's a lot of things where the culture wars and things that just like the general population doesn't really care about, right?
00:09:56.880 But again, Trump became president, and he engaged in some of the stuff as well.
00:10:00.620 So the thing that I find most interesting about politics and predicting the future is not so much the candidates and how they'll evolve.
00:10:07.720 It's that the world evolves.
00:10:09.520 If you think about Trump, people have talked about this ad nauseum.
00:10:12.500 He's like a 1980s, 1990s Democrat, but he's a Republican now, right, who's running.
00:10:17.000 And so sometimes when you look at it through that lens, everything he does makes a ton of sense.
00:10:21.000 Imagine telling someone in 1990, Donald Trump's going to be president as a Republican.
00:10:25.520 They'd be like, shut up, right?
00:10:27.740 Okay, so that's only a couple decades.
00:10:30.920 Well, what's going to happen 30 years from now?
00:10:33.340 Could DeSantis be president as a Democrat?
00:10:36.720 I don't know what you mean.
00:10:37.940 You start doing this.
00:10:38.460 Okay.
00:10:38.940 Let me ask you a question.
00:10:40.180 Right.
00:10:40.740 Within right now in the constructs and the politics and the parties we see right now, we got like 60, 40.
00:10:46.740 No, 57, 43, so less than 60, 40.
00:10:49.160 But let me give you the scenario.
00:10:52.400 J.D. Vance is defeated.
00:10:53.580 Marco Rubio was the VP.
00:10:57.100 And everything they tried because of whatever issues the Democrats are in power for one administration.
00:11:04.060 We all know what's going to happen to the U.S. government.
00:11:06.100 In that next election, would a centrist, practical, common-sense Republican have wings?
00:11:14.240 I think he could.
00:11:15.380 So I think it's all in the context of the future and how it plays out.
00:11:19.140 The way it's going right now, could he be president next time?
00:11:24.000 I don't think that plays out.
00:11:25.160 I don't think the Republican machine, the donors and everything that goes in with getting there, plays for him.
00:11:29.740 But what if the Republicans lose that one and then four years later they're looking for like this practical guy who looks at, look what I did for Florida.
00:11:37.800 Look, guys, look what I did for Florida.
00:11:39.380 And look, you thought you had J.D. Vance.
00:11:41.660 It didn't happen.
00:11:43.240 And we've had this crazy Gavin Newsom for four years.
00:11:46.500 I'm your guy.
00:11:47.360 I think at that point you take the survey again.
00:11:50.080 It's different.
00:11:50.700 So I think we have to see the pages turn.
00:11:53.060 I love how he's governing right now.
00:11:56.120 I love the governor.
00:11:57.840 I am a staunch defender of term limits, and I hope that what comes after his term limit is a continuation of the common sense he brings.
00:12:05.000 My only problem with this was one thing when I had him on the podcast.
00:12:08.320 I had one problem with him.
00:12:09.900 He didn't call Trump.
00:12:11.660 He didn't say thank you.
00:12:13.180 And he went in attack mode.
00:12:15.300 Instead of wanting to build collaboration relationship, he went after the guy thinking he's above him.
00:12:21.320 Because he had one and a half million more votes than he did when he first got elected and won by 33, 34,000 votes.
00:12:28.060 It's the only thing.
00:12:29.540 2024, I only wanted one person to win for president because of what happened the last four years.
00:12:34.420 And history only wanted one person on the conservative side to get voted to win.
00:12:38.900 My opinion.
00:12:40.340 The Santas can have his time, but that was the only problem.
00:12:42.580 Everything else, if this guy in the future decides to, I don't think he's going away.
00:12:46.220 Now that his wife is not going to be running and Byron Donalds and others are going to be fighting in Florida.
00:12:51.040 And by the way, for a lot of people that I think it's going to be a lock, do you see who won in Miami?
00:12:56.780 Do you see what she's doing out there?
00:13:00.780 You want a good one?
00:13:01.740 Yeah.
00:13:02.320 I used to ask people on the podcast all the time, who do you think could be president?
00:13:06.300 What's the most outrageous?
00:13:07.800 The best answer I ever heard was Ivanka Trump as a Democrat. 0.92
00:13:11.640 Hmm.
00:13:12.380 Right?
00:13:14.320 But I started thinking about it more.
00:13:15.780 And you know the two sleepers that I think that could be president?
00:13:19.120 Kim Kardashian or The Rock.
00:13:21.400 Mm-hmm.
00:13:22.160 And The Rock, one of the things that people don't realize is in the debate stage, there's a bunch of studies that show whoever is most physically dominant usually gets the votes.
00:13:32.620 So Trump, when he's on the stage, he's in the middle, right?
00:13:35.860 And there's like this thing from a voter standpoint.
00:13:38.360 But he also, if you listen to a lot of interviews, they've asked him, would you ever be president?
00:13:42.040 He goes, well, you know, if the American people wanted me to be racist, he's kind of keeping the door open.
00:13:45.960 But the reason why I think Kim Kardashian is so interesting is because I think there's a very large contingent of the country that now realizes a lot of elections are determined by white, liberal young women.
00:13:56.080 Well, who do they look up to?
00:13:59.100 Whether you like it or not, Kim Kardashian is one of those people.
00:14:02.600 She has immense reach.
00:14:04.180 You think that some of these guys in the politics world have reach?
00:14:07.320 Talk about a single Instagram post from her. 0.99
00:14:09.260 And she's the only person I know who's been like a chameleon who can go from sex tape to reality TV star to lawyer to entrepreneur.
00:14:18.980 And so I don't know if these types of people want to be president, but I think that what we're learning is having a monopoly on attention drives outcomes of election.
00:14:28.120 Mom Donnie is a great example of that in New York City.
00:14:30.400 These are people who have, on a scale in politics, off-the-charts monopoly on attention.
00:14:37.820 Yeah.
00:14:38.960 Yeah.
00:14:39.700 I mean, listen, I was with you when you said Ivanka's a Democrat.
00:14:44.740 I'm like, okay, that's creative.
00:14:46.220 I was with you when you said Iraq, because we've talked about it.
00:14:49.200 Him and I speak, you know, and we've had him at one of our events.
00:14:53.700 And specifically, we talked about presidency.
00:14:56.500 Kim Kardashian.
00:14:57.440 That's when I'm like, you know, are you trying to get her on the CFO, Sylvia?
00:15:03.040 Is that what the idea is?
00:15:06.580 Hey, Kim, can you please go download CFOsylvia.com?
00:15:10.680 Pull that up, Rob.
00:15:11.540 Pull that up.
00:15:12.380 If she asks and says, change it to CFO Kim, I would do it.
00:15:17.020 And maybe you change the picture.
00:15:18.900 CFO Kim.
00:15:20.340 She only can get hired if she goes through higher metrics, right? 1.00
00:15:22.840 President Kardashian, how exactly did you get Putin to agree the end of the Ukraine war?
00:15:32.460 I can't tell you insider information.
00:15:36.300 But, yeah, I mean, listen, she's got a massive depth chart, so she may be able to do it.
00:15:40.940 Who knows?
00:15:41.360 Her contact list is massive.
00:15:43.060 Pulling to deploy their bags.
00:15:43.600 Every time I'm at this campus and I'm in my conference room and I look to my left and I see 15 people walk into the other building and they're getting a tour.
00:15:50.680 That means we've hired 15 new people, okay?
00:15:53.020 And last week we had 10 new hires that we had.
00:15:55.620 We had 45 job openings.
00:15:56.940 Right now we have 35 job openings.
00:15:58.760 We are hiring.
00:15:59.700 If you're somebody highly qualified, you're educated, you're hungry, you want to be part of something that you want to go on a run for 20 years,
00:16:07.240 a lot of people, if you just watch this, you think it's a podcast.
00:16:09.760 And, by the way, you may have a son, a daughter, a friend, somebody that's fully, fully qualified that wants to be part of something and bring their talent to us.
00:16:17.040 Not an easy place to work.
00:16:18.680 You know, we work very, very hard at a place like this.
00:16:22.140 But if you think this is just a podcast, I want you to watch this clip to give you a little bit of a glimpse,
00:16:26.040 and then I'll give you a link to go apply for the 35 job openings that we have right now.
00:16:30.340 Go ahead, Rob.
00:16:31.380 Many times when people think about valutainment, all they think about is a podcast, but it's a lot more than that.
00:16:35.900 It's nine companies working together on an 11-acre campus.
00:16:40.020 If I was to give you a virtual tour here, you'll see the HR department hiring, talent acquisition.
00:16:45.000 We have full-stack developers that are working on Manac and hire metrics.
00:16:48.300 We have a full-fledged events team that puts together events with thousands of people.
00:16:52.300 We have a merch department designing the latest product.
00:16:55.020 We just launched EFLB Shoes, made in Italy.
00:16:57.660 We have a marketing department.
00:16:59.260 And if you go to the complete opposite side of the building, 50, 60 people making calls, working for Beddavid Consulting.
00:17:04.560 Sales, setters.
00:17:06.100 And then on the complete opposite side of the campus, there's a full-on production company with editors, shooters, creating content, doing podcasts.
00:17:12.840 Then you can drive down a couple miles and go to our private boardroom, Cigar Lounge, with members only.
00:17:17.660 Regardless of what it is, working at valutainment, every day is a surprise.
00:17:21.780 You could be walking into work and right next to you is a governor, is a billionaire, is an athlete.
00:17:26.600 We are hiring aggressively, but valutainment isn't for everybody.
00:17:30.280 For the right person, this could be the last company you ever work for.
00:17:35.180 So, if you're watching this and you want to learn more, go to vt.com forward slash careers and apply now.
00:17:43.220 There you go.
00:17:44.120 Go to vt.com forward slash careers and apply now.
00:17:47.200 Rob, if we can put the link below as well.
00:17:49.280 That will be wonderful.
00:17:51.280 Okay.
00:17:51.640 Can I say something about the people I met here?
00:17:53.000 Please, go for it.
00:17:53.780 Excellent.
00:17:54.460 A plus.
00:17:55.220 Every single person.
00:17:56.000 High energy, smart.
00:17:57.500 And I ask every place I go, ask them, what's it like working here?
00:18:01.060 What's the best part?
00:18:01.660 What's the worst part?
00:18:02.680 The woman that I was just talking with, you know what she told me? 0.94
00:18:04.880 She said, it's great to have a leader who's pushing forward.
00:18:07.520 There's a movement.
00:18:08.120 You feel like you're contributing, but it's fun as well.
00:18:11.180 It's very rare where you can work really hard and have fun.
00:18:13.480 I love that.
00:18:14.520 Well, I appreciate you for saying that.
00:18:16.360 Whoever said that, can we get that?
00:18:17.520 I might apply.
00:18:18.080 I might apply.
00:18:19.560 She was a good sales pitch. 0.98
00:18:22.660 All right.
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