Valuetainment - December 07, 2025


＂You're The American NIGHTMARE!＂ - HEATED Islam Debate Between Piers Morgan & Valentina Gomez


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11 minutes

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2,203

Sentence count

236

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Misogyny

3

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Hate speech

21

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On this episode of Thick & Thin, Pat and Rob discuss the latest in the Pierce Morgan and Sheryl Crow beef, and how to deal with it. They also talk about the recent events in England and how Muslims should be sent back to their home countries.

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00:00:00.000 By the way, there's a there's a clip of Pierce Morgan with this lady that's on their podcast on this podcast.
00:00:05.840 And they're going back and forth. Rob, I don't know if you have this clip or not.
00:00:09.300 It gets pretty heated. I mean, it gets to the point that Pierce was, you know, said, I will never invite you back on and blocked her, I believe, afterwards.
00:00:16.780 I don't know if you heard about this or not. Yeah, he blocked her afterwards and she posted it saying that I got blocked by him.
00:00:23.180 And they had a massive, massive exchange that went back and forth.
00:00:27.400 But Rob, I don't know if you have the highlight. There's there's a that one above.
00:00:31.980 I think this is the one, Rob. OK, I'm going to send this one to you, Rob.
00:00:35.740 If you want to look at your text, this is the one to play.
00:00:40.080 And right there, Rob, you have this one if you want to play this one.
00:00:43.640 It's a back and forth on what's happening.
00:00:46.860 And I think at the end, she just flat out is like, no, I'm not changing my position.
00:00:51.340 I'm staying here. He did not like this year.
00:00:55.860 So let's play this clip. Go for it, Rob.
00:00:59.180 I apologize for nothing. My statements and my actions have endured the test of time.
00:01:04.060 And Pierce, since you cut me off, let me finish.
00:01:07.040 You've been on national television for 20 years.
00:01:09.420 And during that entire time, England has only gotten more Muslim. 1.00
00:01:13.620 For 20 years, you can say faggot or to even call out the rapist Muslims. 0.99
00:01:19.020 Pierce, you are not a censor.
00:01:20.520 The truth is, you have been complicit with the rape of England into its submission.
00:01:26.800 It's not only on Pierce Stammer, it's also on you, on the police and the courts that have covered up for their crimes.
00:01:32.720 Absolutely. And I'll say what everybody else is thinking.
00:01:35.640 England is better off without all the Muslims. 1.00
00:01:38.160 And that goes the same way to the United States.
00:01:41.040 We can solve all of our problems if these Muslims are sent back to their Sharia nations. 1.00
00:01:46.160 Because they're not here to assimilate to the American or the British. 0.76
00:01:49.660 You think you'd have no...
00:01:50.920 I apologize for...
00:01:52.800 I mean, let's...
00:01:54.500 I mean, let me explain this up to you.
00:01:56.160 She gets extreme, but at the end of the day, is she lying about Keir Starmer and all the Pakistani rape gangs in England? 0.96
00:02:02.900 Who is the... Ed Sheeran sat down with...
00:02:05.400 What's his name, Robbie?
00:02:06.560 Theo Vaughn.
00:02:07.500 And he goes, how is it in England?
00:02:09.140 He goes, everywhere is sketchy now.
00:02:11.180 You can't go anywhere.
00:02:12.680 This is Ed Sheeran saying it.
00:02:14.060 And it's like, how much more lying?
00:02:16.120 And I love Peir's, but with all due respect, enough of this nonsense of, oh, I love curry and all this nonsense.
00:02:22.580 Okay?
00:02:23.060 It's happening.
00:02:24.260 The UK is finished.
00:02:26.800 You guys are finished.
00:02:28.100 The only beauty about this country is, is our First Amendment backed up by the Second Amendment.
00:02:32.880 Good luck coming with that shit here.
00:02:34.740 They have over 100-some Sharia courts in England.
00:02:38.220 In England.
00:02:39.140 Okay?
00:02:39.480 And nobody's saying that shit.
00:02:40.520 So when we talk about these stories about Somalia, we try to talk about this.
00:02:43.220 She is extreme, but guess what? 0.85
00:02:45.320 At the end of the day, Pat, she's not wrong.
00:02:48.020 If you're not coming here to assimilate, once you're the majority, let's see how that attitude changes.
00:02:53.120 And don't play that, oh, no, no, let's talk.
00:02:55.060 Let me give you my side.
00:02:56.160 I don't want to hear that shit.
00:02:57.440 We're a Christian nation.
00:02:58.860 Our founding fathers founded this place on Christianity, and we're open to everybody.
00:03:03.740 Practice what you want.
00:03:04.780 I'm praying for you.
00:03:05.820 And I don't mean you have done this before.
00:03:07.080 I pray for people to come to Christ.
00:03:08.560 Because everybody, Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish, everybody, at the end, when Jesus comes, every knee will bow.
00:03:15.020 That's my message to people.
00:03:16.360 I still love you.
00:03:17.440 I still pray for you.
00:03:18.740 I still, I love my enemies, which is the hardest thing, Pat, for me, is forgiving people and praying that they come to Christ.
00:03:24.860 It's so hard because your enemy, you want to hate your enemy.
00:03:28.280 But these people, no, they're going to come in.
00:03:30.020 They're going to come in.
00:03:30.800 Look at what happened in Minneapolis.
00:03:32.340 Look at England.
00:03:33.160 Look over the pond and tell me that they're not furious.
00:03:35.500 That lady that we showed, Pat, on that phone call, crying.
00:03:38.600 People are getting stabbed, walking around.
00:03:40.920 It calls for them to get stabbed in the Koran. 1.00
00:03:43.140 And you're going to play that.
00:03:44.000 No, we're a loving.
00:03:45.600 The moment of the majority, it's a wrap.
00:03:47.840 It's not going to happen here, period.
00:03:49.560 I actually respect it for going home.
00:03:50.680 What's this clip, Brad?
00:03:51.480 You want to play this clip?
00:03:52.860 Because this is her continuing.
00:03:54.840 White Christian commits a heinous crime. 1.00
00:03:57.080 I don't assume that every white Christian is the same. 0.79
00:04:00.180 Why would you?
00:04:00.900 Piers, you can take the Muslim out of a terrorist nation, 1.00
00:04:05.300 but you cannot take the terrorism out of a Muslim. 0.75
00:04:07.260 And give me one example of a Christian committing a terrorist attack right now against Muslims.
00:04:11.580 Let me ask you, though.
00:04:12.420 When the UK and the United States illegally invaded Iraq in 2003,
00:04:19.380 I waived a campaign against that.
00:04:22.240 So what would you say about that illegal invasion of a Muslim country?
00:04:27.200 Muslims are killing Christians in Nigeria, Piers.
00:04:30.360 I didn't ask you about Nigeria.
00:04:33.040 I asked you about Iraq.
00:04:35.440 Iraq? 0.57
00:04:35.980 Well, repeat your question again, please.
00:04:39.120 Do you agree that we illegally invaded Iraq in 2003?
00:04:41.880 I don't think she's right enough to understand your question, Piers.
00:04:43.960 I don't think she does.
00:04:44.780 I don't think she wants to understand it.
00:04:46.360 But in 2003, we, in my opinion, illegally invaded Iraq, a sovereign country.
00:04:52.780 A million people died.
00:04:54.540 It created ISIS, which then wreaked mayhem for two decades. 0.75
00:04:58.520 And was a stain on my country.
00:05:01.000 And on the Prime Minister, Tony Blair, who I think should have been held up in a court of law
00:05:07.280 over what happened under my name and the name of the British people.
00:05:10.640 But do you care about that?
00:05:12.240 Do you care that a million people, including hundreds of thousands of Muslims,
00:05:15.760 were killed in a war in Iraq, which, in my opinion,
00:05:19.200 was fought on an illegal false pretext that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction?
00:05:24.680 Which he didn't, it turned out.
00:05:27.920 Piers, in 2003, I was four years old.
00:05:30.760 And I cannot change what happened back then.
00:05:32.960 No, I asked you for your opinion.
00:05:34.460 I asked you for your opinion.
00:05:35.700 And they can bomb every terrorist country. 0.63
00:05:37.400 They won.
00:05:37.800 That's the reality.
00:05:38.200 You're into, like, a non-groner year since then.
00:05:39.200 I'll say that the Taliban, ISIS, they all come to the Middle East. 1.00
00:05:42.460 But then they're obsessed.
00:05:44.000 Then they're, yes, I'm honest.
00:05:45.860 I'm honest.
00:05:46.440 And I am the American dream on steroids.
00:05:48.320 I have worked my way to the top.
00:05:49.740 You're not the American dream, Valentina.
00:05:52.720 You're not the American dream.
00:05:54.540 You're the American nightmare.
00:05:56.200 You're somebody fomenting hatred.
00:05:59.300 Yeah, and then he continues to say, you know,
00:06:01.040 how would you say, when you lose,
00:06:02.980 you will never be able to come back here again in Texas.
00:06:05.440 But if you win, I will bring you back on the show so we can talk about it.
00:06:10.840 She's bold.
00:06:11.660 She's fearless when she's going after these guys.
00:06:13.640 She needs to be careful.
00:06:14.380 She needs to be careful.
00:06:16.400 By the way, she's very talented.
00:06:17.600 She used to come on my show from time to time. 0.99
00:06:19.840 We know her brother.
00:06:20.840 She's very outspoken.
00:06:22.140 Who's in the National Guard now?
00:06:23.760 He's serving.
00:06:24.300 So here's the challenge that she's going to have.
00:06:26.140 She can't ever backtrack on those comments.
00:06:29.060 She went full scathing, full scorched earth. 0.96
00:06:31.220 It is what it is.
00:06:32.320 Here's my response.
00:06:33.820 Because I, too, get some criticism.
00:06:36.200 I, too, get some critique.
00:06:37.620 I don't know if you've noticed this by the online chat.
00:06:39.880 I don't know if you noticed it.
00:06:41.040 But here's my position.
00:06:42.400 I love Arabs.
00:06:44.060 I enjoy Arab culture.
00:06:45.240 I was out last night at Art Basel with my Saudi friends.
00:06:49.840 I have Egyptian friends.
00:06:51.200 We know one of my closest friends here is Lebanese.
00:06:54.080 Okay?
00:06:54.640 Persian culture.
00:06:55.940 Assyrians. 0.77
00:06:56.600 Chaldeans. 0.78
00:06:57.540 There's Mizrahi Jews who are Arab Jews.
00:07:00.600 I love the culture.
00:07:01.840 The hospitality.
00:07:02.600 The warmth.
00:07:03.060 The food.
00:07:03.420 Brother, come on in.
00:07:04.900 My challenge is the Islamists. 1.00
00:07:08.240 The Islamists who want to practice political Islam, Sharia law. 0.89
00:07:12.660 Put everybody in a hijab. 1.00
00:07:13.860 Shout death to America.
00:07:15.380 Wow, they're living in America.
00:07:17.400 That's the problem I have.
00:07:19.100 So, some people can.
00:07:20.240 You have one of three options.
00:07:21.460 You either say, nope, I am against these people.
00:07:24.600 I am Muslim.
00:07:25.420 I am against these people.
00:07:26.580 This is not who we are.
00:07:27.760 Okay?
00:07:28.360 Speak louder, please.
00:07:30.060 You can kind of pretend that there's nothing going on here with this culture war or this
00:07:34.540 potential conflict.
00:07:38.660 Let's just call it that way.
00:07:39.700 Or you can just go full on death to America.
00:07:43.240 But at this point, the cat's out the bag.
00:07:46.240 You have to pick a side here at this point.
00:07:48.400 You're either, yes, I love America.
00:07:49.860 I want to be here.
00:07:50.680 Or you're shouting death to America.
00:07:52.640 Or you hate America.
00:07:53.640 You want to burn America down.
00:07:54.800 And they're going to find you, buddy.
00:07:57.460 All right.
00:07:58.120 You got that out of your system.
00:07:59.460 I don't know.
00:07:59.800 Do you want to weigh in on this?
00:08:00.700 No, I think she's got a point on what she's saying.
00:08:04.380 And I think she's relentless about what she believes in.
00:08:07.400 I think Pierce, he's been on TV for 30 years.
00:08:11.240 Can you go look at the UK population 30 years ago versus today when it comes down to Muslims?
00:08:17.680 What has happened from 1995 to 2025, Muslim population in the UK?
00:08:24.800 What has happened in the UK from 1995 to 2025?
00:08:34.280 What has happened from 95?
00:08:36.400 From 950,000 to 4 million today.
00:08:40.300 Forexed in 30 years during Kistan being there. 0.99
00:08:43.200 And by the way, guess what?
00:08:45.100 You can keep saying, I don't see an issue.
00:08:46.800 I don't see anything happening here.
00:08:48.360 No problem.
00:08:49.440 Keep saying that.
00:08:50.640 But then when it gets to the tipping point, you can't get rid of this many people off an island.
00:08:57.360 UK is an island.
00:08:59.340 How are you going to get rid of them?
00:09:01.140 They're permanently there.
00:09:03.300 There is no way of having them leave you.
00:09:06.440 They're yours.
00:09:07.560 And UK becomes a complete different country.
00:09:10.900 And then you move to Florida.
00:09:12.500 And that's what you do.
00:09:13.620 Okay?
00:09:13.820 He's saying, you know what?
00:09:14.840 I'm going to come feel safer at Florida than where I'm at.
00:09:17.100 Okay, I totally understand why someone like Pierce wouldn't want completely shocking, unfounded allegations out there.
00:09:24.320 I understand he's trying to narrate.
00:09:26.020 But is it me?
00:09:27.580 Does Pierce seem kind of soft on this issue?
00:09:30.760 You think?
00:09:31.600 He seems a little, well, you know.
00:09:33.460 Why do you think, though?
00:09:34.940 That's my question.
00:09:36.020 I'm not on Pierce.
00:09:36.340 Where does he live?
00:09:37.220 He lives there.
00:09:38.120 If he starts being honest, they're going to kill him.
00:09:42.000 He lives there.
00:09:42.340 Do you think that's his concern?
00:09:43.460 Adam, why else would you?
00:09:44.760 Do you think Pierce is the type of person that is scared to say what he believes?
00:09:47.380 Pierce is an amazing human being.
00:09:48.880 And guess what?
00:09:49.140 He's very smart.
00:09:50.400 He's not stupid.
00:09:52.180 So you're saying he's playing scared?
00:09:54.520 Adam, if you live in the middle of Harlem, you think you're going to be walking around
00:09:59.640 talking shit about all the people that live in Harlem?
00:10:01.700 The majority that's taking over?
00:10:03.560 It's not like Pierce is walking the streets.
00:10:05.580 What do you mean?
00:10:06.120 Hanging out?
00:10:06.400 He has like 90 security.
00:10:07.500 No, no.
00:10:07.780 Adam, if somebody wants you, they're going to get you.
00:10:10.400 So you're saying that he's playing scared?
00:10:12.020 I think so.
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