Valuetainment - ＂You Voted For Kamala？＂ – HEATED Debate With Sam Seder Over Kamala's' FAILED 2024 Campaign

00:00:00.060 And you're sitting here saying you guys think you got better policies?

00:00:03.140 No, I think Kamala Harris is a policy conversation.

00:00:05.520 Kamala Harris is, I mean, I think, look, I think it was what Biden did in staying in was atrocious.

00:00:12.320 He should have gotten out way earlier.

00:00:14.120 There's a story coming out now of like Ron Klain coming, seeing him before the debate and realizing the guy was a mess.

00:00:21.360 And I think Harris's campaign was also poorly run.

00:00:26.080 I think, you know, nobody could tell what her policies were.

00:00:29.540 Mark Cuban's going out there saying we're going to get rid of.

00:00:32.120 I agree.

00:00:33.200 Mark Cuban's coming out there saying like, oh, don't worry.

00:00:35.900 She's not going to do any more of this antitrust stuff on one hand. 0.90

00:00:39.740 I don't want a billionaire coming out and speaking for my candidate.

00:00:43.720 Did you vote for her?

00:00:44.940 Did you send that one out?

00:00:46.140 No, I voted for her.

00:00:47.380 You voted for Kamala.

00:00:49.240 Why?

00:00:49.900 Just because.

00:00:51.500 Hold on.

00:00:52.980 Hold on.

00:00:53.800 What did you?

00:00:55.100 I want to hold on.

00:00:56.760 This is what drives me crazy about your side.

00:00:58.980 You guys voted for the lesser of two.

00:01:01.660 That is what policy were you going for?

00:01:04.080 What do you think that she was going to do different? 0.99

00:01:06.140 What what can you possibly.

00:01:07.920 I would rather have you sit that one out, Sam.

00:01:09.920 Go ahead.

00:01:10.220 I'll tell you.

00:01:10.680 Go ahead.

00:01:11.880 She was not going to cut Social Security functioning.

00:01:16.220 She's not going to cut the USDA.

00:01:18.240 She's not going to cut the FDA. 0.88

00:01:19.700 She's not going to lose us five hundred billion dollars worth of of of return on investment with the IRS.

00:01:26.440 She's not going to cut the Bureau of Labor Statistics. 0.93

00:01:30.580 She's not going to cut three hundred.

00:01:32.540 Three hundred.

00:01:33.160 Investment.

00:01:33.840 Investment.

00:01:34.260 Investment.

00:01:34.860 Return on investment.

00:01:36.380 Every dollar that you give to the IRS will get six or seven back.

00:01:40.640 She's not going to cut the museum.

00:01:42.340 Did you just say that?

00:01:44.380 Google it.

00:01:45.660 Every dollar spent at the IRS gets six back in returns.

00:01:51.040 Goodness.

00:01:51.400 Very anticipating the cuts from Doge.

00:01:53.900 The cuts from Doge are going to cost the our government five hundred billion dollars.

00:01:59.720 According to studies suggest.

00:02:01.740 All right.

00:02:02.020 I undersold it a little bit.

00:02:03.760 According to who?

00:02:05.780 OK.

00:02:06.080 Well, you can spend time attacking the people to do these calculations.

00:02:09.760 Do you need me to tell you more about why?

00:02:11.540 Well, I'm just I'm just curious to what rando tariffs applied in a willy nilly fashion that crash the economy.

00:02:20.260 So you don't so you don't think the tariffs that Trump is.

00:02:23.160 And I get it.

00:02:23.840 That's exactly what the tariffs are exactly what America needs right now, because let's just go to the border.

00:02:28.160 What he did with the border with Mexico, with the tariffs.

00:02:31.640 What happened to fentanyl?

00:02:32.760 What happened to all the deaths?

00:02:33.800 What happened to all those illegals? 0.99

00:02:34.980 What do you mean?

00:02:35.660 He threatened them and they went to fentanyl comes across the border at ports of entry.

00:02:41.540 Fentanyl comes across the border, not in illegals crossing the desert.

00:02:47.000 It comes in.

00:02:47.540 Oh, really?

00:02:48.000 Coyotes.

00:02:48.600 Oh, really?

00:02:49.920 OK.

00:02:50.500 It comes in.

00:02:51.140 Yep.

00:02:51.580 It comes in at ports of entry.

00:02:53.860 Google that.

00:02:55.760 Sam, I don't need to Google when it's like.

00:02:57.560 Yes, you do.

00:02:58.260 You said you voted for you voted for someone.

00:03:00.880 You're coming up with these policies.

00:03:02.220 The worst pick ever.

00:03:05.300 The biggest loss ever.

00:03:07.400 She lost everything because your side, you're talking about people. 0.64

00:03:10.640 Wait a minute.

00:03:10.860 Let me ask you a question.

00:03:12.080 You're acting like your whole side was surprised that Biden wasn't there.

00:03:17.440 Everybody knew, including you.

00:03:18.900 He wasn't there at all.

00:03:20.760 But you guys are like, he's just not Trump.

00:03:22.540 The worst president in the history of the world, in this country, four years because you guys were pretending that he was all there and we knew it.

00:03:31.920 And who was making all the decisions?

00:03:33.520 Who was making all the decisions? 1.00

00:03:34.740 Who was signing all the shit? 0.99

00:03:35.920 Who was signing off? 1.00

00:03:36.840 How many times did you have to see Biden sitting there and they'd ask him a question and he'd go, oh, I can't because they told me I couldn't.

00:03:43.500 He wasn't in charge.

00:03:44.560 They who?

00:03:45.280 Yeah, who was they?

00:03:46.360 Come on, Sam.

00:03:46.840 It's like the most devastating loss.

00:03:48.980 The world, the country is over it.

00:03:51.280 You guys aren't pivoting.

00:03:53.040 OK, and if you think the future is Gavin Newsom, AOC, Bernie Sanders and Jasmine Crockett, you guys are doomed.

00:04:02.040 Nothing is going to change.

00:04:03.460 And Elon Musk, you think Elon Musk is a net positive or a net negative for society for what he's doing and pointing out what the hell these people have been screwing us for all these years.

00:04:11.960 And he's pointing out you guys are mad at the person pointing out who robbed from you than the actual robber.

00:04:17.120 That's the truth, bro.

00:04:18.280 Yeah, he's a billionaire.

00:04:19.300 You think he's doing it because he needs the money?

00:04:20.840 What fraud has he found?

00:04:21.860 What do you mean?

00:04:22.320 How much fraud has he found?

00:04:24.200 What fraud?

00:04:24.440 Yeah.

00:04:24.800 Where's the person who is going to be indicted for fraud?

00:04:28.660 Well, what about the waste?

00:04:30.160 What waste?

00:04:30.560 Because it's not.

00:04:31.360 Stop it, Sam.

00:04:32.320 What waste?

00:04:33.300 They just cut the agency that provides $295 million to museums and libraries.

00:04:42.000 You appreciate libraries, don't you?

00:04:43.800 I know how much reading is important to you and your kids.

00:04:45.640 You're pointing the one good thing that they probably did.

00:04:47.520 Oh, no, no, no.

00:04:47.760 Wait, I can keep going.

00:04:48.020 What about the waste of countries all around the world for LGBTQ agendas in Rwanda or something? 0.99

00:04:53.700 The money you're talking about is a fraction of a percentage.

00:04:58.160 And if we wanted to get rid of that money, there is a way of doing it, and that is to have Congress vote and reverse what they authorized in the first place.

00:05:08.640 Same.

00:05:08.860 But to have a billionaire come in and decide, based upon what his personal preferences are, that he's going to cut government in this way, I'm sorry.

00:05:18.320 That's not democracy.

00:05:19.200 It's not even remotely close to it.

00:05:20.380 He doesn't have the power to do anything.

00:05:22.080 He makes a suggestion.

00:05:23.420 Why do you think Americans voted for this?

00:05:24.740 And the administration will do it.

00:05:25.420 Why do you think Americans voted for this?

00:05:26.500 I don't think Americans heard the word doge outside of it being some type of crypto.

00:05:33.420 Why do you think Americans voted for Trump?

00:05:36.960 Well, I think because they want change.

00:05:40.140 And what?

00:05:40.500 What were they not happy with?

00:05:41.900 I think inflation was a big part of it for them.

00:05:43.980 What else do you think?

00:05:44.720 I think for a 90% of his voters voted for Mitt Romney.

00:05:55.480 I think the Republican Party wants to have tax cuts.

00:06:00.680 How do we get inflation?

00:06:01.660 How does inflation happen?

00:06:02.120 Can we stay in 2024?

00:06:03.340 You said inflation?

00:06:04.200 Give me one second.

00:06:05.200 How does inflation happen?

00:06:06.640 Inflation can happen in a couple of different ways.

00:06:08.500 Inflation can happen because you have too much monetary supply.

00:06:11.440 Inflation can happen in terms of both from a monetary supply level or a fiscal stimulus.

00:06:19.060 And inflation can also happen if you have a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic that completely

00:06:24.480 screws up all of your logistics. 0.93

00:06:26.760 And so you've got shipping containers that usually cost $4,000 to ship, but now they cost

00:06:35.060 $22,000 to get because they're in far-flung places because the pandemic screwed up.

00:06:40.200 That was in 2021.

00:06:40.620 That was in 2021.

00:06:41.780 Well, it reverberates through the thing.

00:06:43.820 We saw inflation dropping through 2024.

00:06:46.660 Sure.

00:06:47.060 We saw rate cuts on the table because we saw inflation dropping.

00:06:50.960 Do you think any of it was with, again, so those are the main two issues.

00:06:55.400 You don't think anything else.

00:06:56.380 So you mainly think it was inflation and your second point was-

00:07:02.500 Well, I think in large part, we have structural problems in this country, and that's why we

00:07:07.620 keep getting change elections where we keep going back and forth, back and forth.

00:07:11.420 What was, what were-

00:07:12.840 And I would say those structural problems range from, I think a lot of them have to do with

00:07:17.500 wealth inequality.

00:07:18.200 Okay.

00:07:18.600 So you think Democrats are better at helping wealth inequality or Republicans?

00:07:23.920 I think Democrats are marginally better.

00:07:26.480 Tell me, due to what policy?

00:07:28.660 Well, taxation helps.

00:07:30.800 That's a big part.

00:07:32.080 Strengthening labor.

00:07:32.940 I think, you know, during Biden, I had a lot of problems with Biden, but-

00:07:36.900 Through government jobs, where 6% of the workers work from home.

00:07:38.800 Yeah.

00:07:39.400 So how about-

00:07:40.060 Labor, I mean, strengthening labor strength in the marketplace helps with wealth inequality.

00:07:44.920 I think antitrust goes a long way to wealth inequality because it literally is to break

00:07:51.020 up the concentration of wealth.

00:07:51.800 Here's the other question for you.

00:07:53.120 So Trump's closed up the border, right?

00:07:55.280 Where we are not getting, like this, numbers have dropped dramatically.

00:07:59.060 Well, I mean, if you go back and look in the, and I don't necessarily agree with Biden doing

00:08:02.880 this, but if you go back and look at the numbers starting in the summer of 2024, maybe

00:08:07.220 a little bit before-

00:08:07.940 Oh, he hadn't stopped it.

00:08:08.800 I'm sorry.

00:08:09.340 Go late.

00:08:09.720 Just put it up there.

00:08:10.820 Oh, my God.

00:08:11.060 Oh, my God.

00:08:11.740 Put it up there.

00:08:12.760 Listen, I'm not in favor of him doing this, but he did do it.

00:08:16.220 Wait, put up the graph of-

00:08:18.220 So you mean in an election year, he tried to slow it up more?

00:08:21.280 Let me just get through this.

00:08:22.340 Yeah, he did it.

00:08:23.100 And guys, here's what I'd like to do.

00:08:23.740 I'm not in favor of this, but he did it.

00:08:25.140 Here's what I'd like to do.

00:08:25.920 I'd like to get through some stories, but I just want to close the knot here and move

00:08:29.120 on because we're not going to make any progress here.

00:08:31.780 See if you can get a graph of that.

00:08:33.040 Rob, if you just want to show up graph on immigration from 2021, 22, 22, is that the chart you want

00:08:38.740 to see?

00:08:39.060 What do you want to see?

00:08:40.420 Let's see the one over the past-

00:08:42.840 Show up how many illegal immigrants came here. 1.00

00:08:45.220 Dramatically in January, and I'm suggesting to you if you look at the past 12 months-

00:08:49.140 No, it's the-

00:08:50.060 Okay, Rob, do me a favor, find the chart on immediately when Trump comes in what happens

00:08:55.500 to illegal immigration in America.

00:08:56.860 While you're doing that, here's a question for you.

00:08:59.400 10 million illegal immigrants came through the border in four years under Biden.

00:09:03.680 No, not the border. Way more.

00:09:04.840 You're saying it's more-

00:09:06.340 What's the number of undocumented immigrants you think we have in this country right now?

00:09:10.060 What I'm asking is those four years.

00:09:12.040 How many do we have during those four years?

00:09:13.980 That came across-

00:09:14.740 That came through, that we have, according to credible sources, what's the number you

00:09:19.140 hear?

00:09:19.800 That are in the country now, or actually just crossed?

00:09:22.480 No, that came through illegally during those four years.

00:09:24.080 I would imagine it's probably close to like five, six, maybe to 10 million.

00:09:28.140 Let's say 10 million people.

00:09:29.080 Tom Holmgren said 10 million.

00:09:30.420 Let's say it's 10 million, but give or take 2 million.

00:09:33.480 Let's just say it's 10 million, the number, okay?

00:09:35.780 Those 10 million people that are coming here, are they rich?

00:09:38.460 No.

00:09:39.360 The vast majority of them, I would say-

00:09:40.680 Are poor, right?

00:09:41.700 Okay, that they're coming here.

00:09:43.320 Who does that benefit?

00:09:45.180 They're going to need jobs, right?

00:09:47.300 And what are they willing to work for?

00:09:49.280 Oh, I think they're going to get exploited, without a doubt, if that's where you go with

00:09:54.320 it.

00:09:54.420 Oh, so let me get this straight.

00:09:55.640 So who do they benefit?

00:09:57.840 Do they benefit larger corporations that get cheap labor?

00:10:01.280 They benefit, yes.

00:10:02.460 Oh, so let me get this straight.

00:10:04.080 Meat processing plants and whatnot.

00:10:06.060 Oh, that's why I want them to have documents.

00:10:09.560 Sam.

00:10:09.700 Let them come to the border. 0.97

00:10:11.580 Give them documents so that they can get worker protections.

00:10:15.220 So then if that's the case, you know what that validates?

00:10:18.760 Joe Biden and the Democratic policies are better for the billionaires than Trump's are, because

00:10:24.600 they brought in cheap labor.

00:10:26.640 And that cheap labor helps who?

00:10:28.780 Helps the rich.

00:10:29.960 Oh, I am in favor of a path to citizenship that is much easier.

00:10:36.340 And by the way, those 10 million people that came here illegally, give or take.

00:10:39.680 And that was in that bill that they suggested in the fall of 2023 that Trump said he didn't

00:10:46.220 want, because he wanted to keep it as an issue.

00:10:48.520 Who do those 10 million people take jobs away from?

00:10:52.080 Who do they take jobs away from?

00:10:53.400 I don't know that they take jobs away from that.

00:10:56.200 Oh, really?

00:10:56.700 Oh, really?

00:10:57.300 We are at when I in in 20 years ago, we were told that the lowest unemployment that it was

00:11:03.240 possible to have with a functioning economy was what?

00:11:06.700 You remember?

00:11:07.920 It was something like six to eight percent.

00:11:10.900 And now our unemployment is a four percent.

00:11:13.820 And so I was lower than that.

00:11:15.560 I continue.

00:11:16.500 You're not answering the question, though.

00:11:17.980 Who do those people take jobs away from? 0.96

00:11:19.680 I have answered it.

00:11:21.160 I think largely they don't take jobs away.

00:11:23.500 Oh, they don't.

00:11:24.220 Of course.

00:11:24.660 Hang on.

00:11:25.400 Perfect.

00:11:25.840 I love what you just said.

00:11:27.100 You think they don't take jobs away from anybody.

00:11:29.900 Perfect.

00:11:30.760 So if we go and we look at when China started trading.

00:11:36.560 Let me make the point.

00:11:37.700 When China came through and was able to bring labor to us, 1971, it was called a ping pong 0.99

00:11:43.400 agreement that they had where, you know, we can send labor there.

00:11:47.700 And labor at the time was eight cents to 20 cents an hour, where for us, minimum wage

00:11:51.440 was a buck 60.

00:11:52.400 Then in 2001, when the Clinton policies helped China join the World Trade Organization, and

00:11:57.800 at the time, minimum wage in China was 20 cents to 50 cents, depending on different regions.

00:12:02.240 And for us, it was 515.

00:12:03.900 We lost six million manufacturing jobs, give or take the next seven years.

00:12:07.240 Michigan, you got Indiana, you got all these other places.

00:12:10.300 Where did those jobs go to? 0.96

00:12:12.160 Who did they replace?

00:12:13.740 Who lost those jobs?

00:12:14.940 What happened to Detroit?

00:12:15.720 Manufacturing went to China.

00:12:16.760 That's right.

00:12:17.220 So what do you think these 10 million people that come here, who are you going to take

00:12:19.360 jobs away from?

00:12:20.360 Americans who are here legally.

00:12:22.820 Those jobs are going to go to somebody that's cheap labor. 1.00

00:12:25.760 That was the movement of capital.

00:12:27.940 Capital decided that it was cheaper for them to move to China.

00:12:31.460 I'm specifically talking about the last four years.

00:12:33.400 So when you're saying labor is not going to be taken from people in America, that's the

00:12:38.140 credibility you lose.

00:12:39.740 That's where people in 2000.

00:12:41.000 Now, Rob, can you play the clip with Stephen A.

00:12:43.100 Smith, who has been a staunch supporter of the Democratic Party for decades, and now

00:12:48.320 Stephen A.

00:12:48.820 Smith is being called as a member of MAGA.

00:12:51.500 You know, Rob, we can't play the whole thing.

00:12:53.060 Can you go to the main part?

00:12:54.140 Do you know the main part or no?

00:12:55.560 Right after he reads this is when he responds.

00:12:59.120 Okay.

00:12:59.420 Let's see what he says, Rob.

00:13:00.460 Go for it.

00:13:00.900 This is Owens, Sean Hannity, and other prominent voices from the right on this podcast as reasons

00:13:08.660 for his premise.

00:13:10.500 Here's a portion of what he wrote on MSNBC.com in an article titled, ESPN Stephen A. Smith

00:13:16.880 is a Megaphone for MAGA Propaganda.

00:13:20.460 Jones says, quote, Stephen A. Smith's embrace of the MAGA movement and its influencers has only

00:13:27.320 continued.

00:13:27.840 In recent days, for example, he has spoken with right-wing commentators Ben Shapiro,

00:13:32.840 Megyn Kelly, and Bill O'Reilly.

00:13:35.560 You might be thinking that these were adversarial chats between a left-leaning centrist and a

00:13:40.960 conservative.

00:13:41.960 But to adroit listeners, they can come across more as conservatives in friendly discussion

00:13:47.280 than anything else.

00:13:48.940 Smith's overt politicism seems to fly in the face of ESPN's apparent effort in recent years

00:13:55.060 to deter some of its talent from speaking on controversial political matters.

00:14:00.060 Either way, the network's most recognizable host is now regularly platforming MAGA propaganda

00:14:06.880 at will.

00:14:08.540 End quote.

00:14:10.060 Now, my team reached out to Jones to have a discussion about the article.

00:14:15.160 I wanted to invite him on the show to talk with me one-on-one personally.

00:14:17.760 I hope we get the opportunity to have that dialogue.

00:14:21.040 He was busy.

00:14:21.920 He didn't avoid the call or anything like that.

00:14:23.920 It was no comment or anything like that.

00:14:25.240 He didn't say anything.

00:14:26.060 He was just very, very busy.

00:14:27.360 We called it the last minute.

00:14:29.080 No shade on him.

00:14:30.080 That's why it didn't happen.

00:14:31.480 But in the meantime, let me express to you what I think about what he wrote.

00:14:35.900 I think that's the exact problem with the left.

00:14:41.640 You see, if I don't agree with you, I must be MAGA.

00:14:45.980 Hmm.

00:14:47.500 It must be the case.

00:14:50.140 I'm platforming MAGA propaganda.

00:14:53.820 Is that so?

00:14:54.960 I don't view it that way.

00:14:56.780 First of all, even though I lean left, particularly with how I vote with presidential elections,

00:15:03.560 I want to emphasize that I've always been a centrist my entire life.

00:15:08.520 I've never once described myself as a Democrat or a Republican.

00:15:12.900 I'm a centrist.

00:15:14.120 I'm a moderate.

00:15:15.220 I don't trust either side.

00:15:17.280 I'm not on one side of the other hook, line, or sinker.

00:15:20.460 You will see images or you'll hear me rattle off names of people who've been on this show.

00:15:28.240 Yes, you see Ben Shapiro there.

00:15:30.340 Yes, you see Bill O'Reilly there.

00:15:31.880 Yes, I was recently on Megyn Kelly's show.

00:15:36.200 Did you know I'm on News Nation with Chris Cuomo every week?

00:15:41.440 Did you know that I just appeared with Jake Tapper on CNN?

00:15:47.720 Do you know I've been on MSNBC on several occasions?

00:15:50.920 You.

00:15:52.200 Do you know?

00:15:53.000 You can pause here.

00:15:53.860 Yes, you're on.

00:15:54.100 So, do you know what happens when a guy like Stephen A. Smith, he said he's always voted left when it comes on to presidential candidates that he has.

00:16:02.800 So, he's not a guy that voted for Trump, right?

00:16:05.720 When a guy like him comes out and he says, what the hell is going on with the Democratic Party?

00:16:13.240 Is that what he's saying there?

00:16:14.580 Oh, he's said it.

00:16:15.680 You must not follow what he says because he has said that nonstop the last two months, three months.

00:16:21.200 No, I don't follow what he says.

00:16:22.000 You should.

00:16:22.580 He's actually very good.

00:16:23.300 He's reasonable.

00:16:24.020 It would be good for you to watch.

00:16:25.180 I like his approach.

00:16:26.000 I think he's a good.

00:16:27.100 Do you guys identify as MAGA?

00:16:29.300 No.

00:16:30.420 No.

00:16:30.560 Do any of you guys identify as MAGA?

00:16:32.080 Here's my question.

00:16:33.060 Can I ask you a question?

00:16:33.560 He seems to think it's an insult.

00:16:35.560 Yo, that's what I'm saying.

00:16:36.180 Make America great again?

00:16:37.220 It shouldn't be enough.

00:16:38.120 If you want to make America great again, I'm all in.

00:16:40.380 Call me MAGA all freaking day.

00:16:41.960 Call it. 0.91

00:16:42.500 I'm MAGA.

00:16:43.420 I'm MAGA.

00:16:44.260 I just want to make America great.

00:16:46.240 He seems to take it as an insult.

00:16:47.960 No.

00:16:48.400 That's what it struck me.

00:16:49.240 I am America first.

00:16:49.960 I'm America first.

00:16:51.260 I voted for Trump in 2016.

00:16:53.680 I voted for him 2020.

00:16:55.860 In 2022, when people were leaving to the DeSantis camp, I stayed on the Trump camp.

00:17:00.080 I've never been off that camp.

00:17:02.180 He's the right guy for America, and I've been a registered independent now for about

00:17:05.900 17 years.

00:17:06.420 What do you think about these tariffs?

00:17:08.640 No, no.

00:17:09.020 Stay on this topic here with Stephen A.

00:17:10.420 We'll go to tariffs next.

00:17:11.220 What is the topic that there's some guy I've never heard of from-

00:17:14.500 I've never heard of Stephen A. Smith?

00:17:16.860 No, the guy who wrote something about him.

00:17:18.560 Thank God.

00:17:19.160 If you didn't hear Stephen A. Smith, I would have a meltdown right now.

00:17:20.000 When you think about Stephen A., what he's been talking about lately with the Democratic

00:17:23.940 Party having issues-

00:17:24.920 He's a centrist.

00:17:25.400 I don't have to subscribe to what a centrist perspective-

00:17:29.660 I mean, he's a centrist, like Gavin Newsom is a centrist.

00:17:33.420 Gavin Newsom is a centrist?

00:17:35.360 Gavin Newsom is saying the exact same thing as Stephen A. Smith.

00:17:38.300 How?

00:17:39.040 Because he realized that progressive policies have been a disaster.

00:17:42.000 Maybe it's because-

00:17:43.440 He's a centrist as a week ago when he realized progressiveness is horrible.

00:17:46.720 Maybe it's because-

00:17:47.720 Come on, Sam?

00:17:48.740 Sam!

00:17:49.720 Maybe it's like a- 0.95

00:17:50.880 I just-

00:17:51.260 You don't understand.

00:17:52.000 You guys don't seem to understand.

00:17:52.800 I have a set of politics.

00:17:55.660 I don't care what Stephen A. Smith does.

00:17:58.180 I don't care what Gavin Newsom does.

00:18:00.220 I don't care.

00:18:01.660 So you're rigid.

00:18:02.500 You're not changing anything.

00:18:03.980 It's not a question of I'm rigid and I'm not changing anything.

00:18:07.160 Like, there are specifics.

00:18:10.320 Like, you know, over time I have had a different perspective on the deficit over the past 20 years

00:18:15.720 and understood it in a different way.

00:18:17.280 But you've become more liberal over the last 20 years.

00:18:19.360 You've become more of a leftist and progressive.

00:18:21.020 You've got to be more malleable.

00:18:22.100 I would say, to a certain extent, I mean, to the extent, like, I don't, you know, like,

00:18:25.940 you guys have these, like, labels that you like to use and there's some type of gradation.

00:18:32.160 But I've always been about where I am in terms of taxation.

00:18:37.220 But I am for a little bit more decommodification probably than I was 20 years ago.

00:18:42.260 And all I'm saying here before we go, look, I'm going to go to the audience.

00:18:45.320 Audience, we're coming to you here in a second to go through some of the stories here.

00:18:47.840 Why, wait, we're going to talk about tariffs?

00:18:49.140 We're going to talk about whatever stories we go through.

00:18:51.600 But the one thing we did learn here with you is America grew up the last four years.

00:19:00.120 I'm sorry about that.

00:19:00.800 America grew up the last four years.

00:19:03.680 Many Democrats grew up.

00:19:05.420 Every state became more Republican because of the horrible policies on the left.

00:19:09.060 Whether it was how they handled COVID, what they did with our kids, how they handled people that didn't want to take the vaccine, and people were fed up.

00:19:17.480 And they voted for a guy who had already been president for four years.

00:19:21.580 So it's not like they said they want something new.

00:19:24.020 They said, no, we wouldn't go back to the guy previous to that guy.

00:19:27.000 That is the biggest black eye to Obama, to Kamala, to Democrats, to everybody on the left when they went back to the guy that they said they didn't want four years later saying, it's like an ex coming back and saying, babe, I messed up.

00:19:41.260 I should have never gone with the other guy.

00:19:43.180 You were my guy.

00:19:44.380 Or, babe, I screwed up.

00:19:46.080 I should have never left you for the other girl. 0.99

00:19:47.620 I'm such a dummy. 0.98

00:19:48.620 Please, Trump, come back. 0.98

00:19:50.360 That's what America did.

00:19:51.860 And a guy like you who's sitting here saying.

00:19:54.860 I'm not a big fan of Obama's, and I'm not a big fan of Harris's either.

00:19:59.180 But the point is you still haven't graduated Sanders.

00:20:02.000 That's like seventh grade.

00:20:03.820 The people that follow Sanders and AOC are in seventh grade, eighth grade.

00:20:07.620 Their heroes are in high school.

00:20:08.960 Your philosophies are popular in high schools, not with adults.

00:20:13.720 The policies that you support are high school policies.

00:20:15.960 They were not popular when I was in high school.

00:20:17.260 Oh, are you kidding me?

00:20:19.100 Karl Marx was a hero in kids that went to high school because teachers were feeding the Karl Marx stuff.

00:20:23.880 Well, I went to high school.

00:20:25.580 Ronald Reagan was president.

00:20:27.280 I can assure you that.

00:20:29.180 And the wall still existed.

00:20:32.020 And there was fear of communism and that socialism was barely ever expressed.

00:20:38.160 You're a step away from communism.

00:20:40.420 Like, socialism is a step away from communism.

00:20:42.540 That's kind of where you are.

00:20:43.260 You're right there saying, guys, I don't want to fully publicly say I'm a communist.

00:20:47.680 I'll stay in this room.

00:20:48.520 No, I'm not.

00:20:49.120 Because it's like MAGA.

00:20:50.420 I don't even identify as a socialist either.

00:20:53.620 You're a progressive, though.

00:20:55.280 I would say I'm a progressive.

00:20:57.160 So what's right of progressive?

00:21:00.000 What's left of progressive?

00:21:00.880 I know you're not big on labels, but just humor me.

00:21:03.600 What's right and left of being a progressive?

00:21:04.800 I mean, I think, you know, I'm probably a social democrat.

00:21:07.920 So I would say that there is a certain amount of society where I believe we do not need the private market to deliver it and is less efficient.

00:21:18.740 So when it comes to health insurance, we have already in this country one third, maybe a little more, actually, on some form of government health insurance.

00:21:31.040 The VA is actually government health care.

00:21:33.360 The doctors work for the government.

00:21:35.780 And that actually gets very, very high marks.

00:21:37.340 And all I hear is good things about the VA.

00:21:39.620 The VA gets high marks?

00:21:41.760 The health care does, yeah.

00:21:43.280 Vinny, you go to the VA.

00:21:44.200 From who?

00:21:44.740 That's 100% false.

00:21:47.000 I get the worst service from the VA.

00:21:49.640 And I'm a veteran and he's a veteran.

00:21:51.540 He doesn't go to the VA.

00:21:52.360 I go to the VA.

00:21:53.380 I called yesterday just to make an example in our work area.

00:21:57.500 I called.

00:21:58.520 Nobody's picking up the phone for me to get an appointment.

00:22:00.440 Zero.

00:22:01.000 And when you go there, it's the most depressing thing.

00:22:02.860 But the good news is when you go to get the DMV, the driver's license, that's great service, right?

00:22:07.840 No, that's the best.

00:22:08.640 Yeah, that's the best.

00:22:09.800 Sam, the VA is not good.

00:22:10.940 The skates run the DMVs.

00:22:14.000 But my experience at the DMV is not that bad.

00:22:16.440 You want to go to a terrorist?

00:22:17.140 Respectfully, there's one thing you said.

00:22:18.720 There's one thing you said.

00:22:19.560 You said the private market is less efficient.

00:22:22.000 We can look at 250 years of government and everything we've got here.

00:22:25.920 I just can't get past that.

00:22:26.980 What's the administrative cost for Medicare?

00:22:28.580 And if that's your feeling, hang on.

00:22:31.780 If that's one of your foundational beliefs, that the private markets will be less efficient,

00:22:38.880 then it's no wonder where you are.

00:22:40.440 I'm not going to pick on it.

00:22:41.260 If that's your foundational belief, then I—

00:22:43.700 What is the administrative cost for Medicare?

00:22:46.540 Tell us.

00:22:47.860 Two to three cents of every dollar in Medicare is spent on administrative costs.

00:22:52.960 And the private health insurance—

00:22:54.380 Administrative defined as what?

00:22:56.440 You've got to be careful.

00:22:58.380 I've got to be careful when I hear things like that.

00:23:00.360 Because guess what?

00:23:01.000 You go back and you look at, well, I was only counting this.

00:23:03.540 I'm not counting this.

00:23:04.620 It's like the same way—

00:23:06.060 You have a dollar.

00:23:06.940 Same way your side would count unemployment.

00:23:09.320 Then count later and readjust all the stats.

00:23:10.980 Ninety-seven to ninety-eight cents actually goes to paying Medicare providers, doctors, labs, whatnot.

00:23:18.360 We're going to move on.

00:23:19.180 I'm just—

00:23:19.480 We're going to move on because your core tenet—

00:23:21.060 I think how to answer the question, Tom, your core tenet that the private markets are less efficient is wrong.

00:23:26.520 In private health insurance, it is 17 cents on every dollar.

00:23:28.780 And if that's your foundation, we can't discuss anything.

00:23:29.420 Because they're paying for advertising.

00:23:31.820 They're paying for shareholder value, et cetera, et cetera.

00:23:35.180 So for every dollar you spend, and on top of which, anybody who has private health insurance, who deals with it themselves, knows it's like having a second job just to either get reimbursed or you get to figure out every year when you re-sign up, it's my doctor in or out of the program.

00:23:52.240 It's a mess.

00:23:53.500 It's a disaster.

00:23:54.020 Well, Medicare is so good and so wonderful.

00:23:57.200 People love Medicare.

00:23:57.860 Why was MedSup and Medicare Advantage invented?

00:24:00.840 It's so good, Medicare.

00:24:02.040 It's everything for you.

00:24:03.400 The Americans wanted to privatize it, and it is widely understood that Medicare Advantage is the worst part of Medicare, and people get sucked into it, and they find out that they've been hoodwinked.

00:24:18.220 I mean, these are all easily found data points.

00:24:20.700 Sam, did you fly here?

00:24:22.280 Yeah.

00:24:22.680 Did you go through TSA?

00:24:24.020 Did you go through TSA pre-check?

00:24:25.480 Did you go through clear?

00:24:26.380 What did you go through?

00:24:28.300 On the way here, my TSA pre-check was not on the thing, so I just went through it.

00:24:32.580 That's messed up.

00:24:33.240 You paid for it, though, right?

00:24:34.760 Yeah, it was $60 for the TSA pre-check.

00:24:36.980 No, I'm saying, but you pay, I think, it was like $500 or $100 for five years for a TSA pre-check?

00:24:41.380 TSA pre-check, I think, is $65 for five years.

00:24:44.440 That's amazing.

00:24:44.940 It's a great deal.

00:24:45.600 Why don't you do clear?

00:24:47.600 I don't want to do a private company.

00:24:50.260 TSA pre-check is basically like a public-private partnership where you pay a little bit more.

00:24:54.920 No, TSA pre-check is the government.

00:24:57.700 You pay a little bit more.

00:24:59.540 I'm not going to give my biometrics to clear.

00:25:02.540 He looks at private companies, and he frowns upon private companies.

00:25:08.040 Is that what's going on?

00:25:09.060 Because that's all it is.

00:25:09.880 Oh, I didn't fully understand.

00:25:10.600 He said, I'm not going to give my money to a private company.

00:25:13.900 And meanwhile, you own and run one.

00:25:17.540 Yeah, so let's go to the next story with Terry.

00:25:19.660 Can we stay there for a second, please?

00:25:21.480 You don't want to give money to a private company, but you are a private company.

00:25:23.960 Well, I don't want to give my biometric information to a private company.

00:25:27.680 Or your dollars.

00:25:29.060 What about just private companies in general?

00:25:31.180 I'm happily fine with TSA pre-check.

00:25:33.040 We already got it.

00:25:33.980 With TSA.

00:25:34.280 I'm moving on.

00:25:34.900 Let's move on.

00:25:35.820 I'm learning.

00:25:36.520 I'm moving on.

00:25:37.120 No, I already learned.

00:25:38.440 I understand.

00:25:38.900 Okay, gotcha.

00:25:39.220 It's great.

00:25:39.880 So we know what the argument is.

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Valuetainment - April 03, 2025

＂You Voted For Kamala？＂ – HEATED Debate With Sam Seder Over Kamala's' FAILED 2024 Campaign

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