Valuetainment - January 09, 2026


“You’ll Be The Next Charlie Kirk” - Nick Shirley DEFIES Death Threats Over Minnesota Daycare Fraud


Episode Stats


Length

9 minutes

Words per minute

197.61003

Word count

1,808

Sentence count

150

Harmful content

Misogyny

2

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Toxicity

21

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Hate speech

7

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Summary

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In this episode, I sit down with my little sister to talk about her experience with hate mail and death threats and how she deals with it. I also talk about my experience with the Omar camp and how they are treating me.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 So, Ilhan Omar, nobody from the camp has reached out to you at all?
00:00:02.900 No.
00:00:03.360 Have you gotten any threats, like actual death threats?
00:00:07.400 Yeah, well, in person and also online.
00:00:10.080 Can you tell me about that?
00:00:11.300 Are they messaging you saying we're going to get you?
00:00:13.640 What are they saying to you?
00:00:14.880 Yeah, like they're saying, oh, like, Kirk.
00:00:17.660 You're going to be Kirk.
00:00:18.920 You're going to be Kirk.
00:00:20.320 That's what they're saying to you.
00:00:21.380 Yeah, like you're the next Kirk.
00:00:22.620 You'll be the next Kirk.
00:00:24.620 And it's just like, are you kidding me?
00:00:26.660 Because it's not even like I hate what's happening right now.
00:00:30.000 Like, I feel bad for my family, honestly, because it's like, yeah, like we didn't do anything wrong.
00:00:36.140 And yet you guys are coming after me like I'm some sort of villain.
00:00:39.080 Right?
00:00:39.500 So I'm like, my little sister is getting phone calls.
00:00:41.280 I'm like, why are you guys doing this?
00:00:44.380 Your little sister is getting phone calls. 0.99
00:00:45.880 Yeah, from like the news.
00:00:46.960 I'm like, don't talk to my family.
00:00:49.200 I mean, some news in India, they doxed my dad.
00:00:54.580 They doxed my, they like, it was really weird.
00:00:58.380 I haven't even told my dad about that because I just don't want to even bother him about it.
00:01:01.460 Well, dad, you know now.
00:01:03.200 But like they put it, like, it's just like, are you guys kidding me?
00:01:05.700 Like, why are you guys coming after somebody for going against fraud?
00:01:08.700 Like, I didn't make this a right or left issue.
00:01:10.620 I just showed you guys that fraud was happening.
00:01:12.320 And now you guys are coming after me.
00:01:13.920 You're saying, yo, I'll be the next Kirk.
00:01:16.280 You're literally stopping at intersections and coming after me and trying to attack me.
00:01:22.140 Like, what, why are you so evil? 0.73
00:01:23.820 Like, what's wrong with you? 0.76
00:01:24.880 Like, what, why are you defending fraud?
00:01:27.960 Do you like money being stolen?
00:01:29.880 No.
00:01:31.020 And what are you doing? 1.00
00:01:32.200 You're a racist. 0.96
00:01:33.000 No, I'm not a racist. 0.99
00:01:34.340 I'm just telling you what the facts are.
00:01:36.540 You guys are stealing money from the people that are working hard here inside the United States. 0.97
00:01:40.400 I was literally talking to a black man. 0.94
00:01:42.080 And then the Somali man comes out. 0.92
00:01:43.940 And he's also black.
00:01:44.780 So I don't want, like, I can't understand what they're thinking, calling me a racist. 0.68
00:01:48.060 I'm having a great conversation with a black man, and then another black man comes up,
00:01:51.800 and he's Somali descent, and he comes and attacks me for being a racist.
00:01:56.020 I'm like, no, I'm not a racist. 1.00
00:01:58.120 It's so stupid. 1.00
00:01:59.600 And that's why the fraud has been able to happen for so long, 1.00
00:02:02.480 because people like Tim Walts are afraid to be calling racist, afraid to be called racist.
00:02:07.220 And me and my generation, we're over it.
00:02:09.420 Like, we don't care.
00:02:10.340 Oh, I love that, buddy.
00:02:11.820 Like, we do not care.
00:02:12.960 Call us a racist.
00:02:13.680 I do not care, because I am not a racist.
00:02:16.680 We're just seeing that prices of homes are so expensive.
00:02:20.260 I don't even have a friend that can afford a home.
00:02:23.960 People aren't getting married because of how expensive things are. 0.88
00:02:27.460 And we're paying so much money in taxes.
00:02:29.600 Most kids are, I'm lucky, because I didn't go to college.
00:02:33.880 But most kids are starting their life off behind the finish, behind the starting line.
00:02:38.300 There are thousands of dollars in the debt.
00:02:40.460 And so, yes, we're upset, because you guys are stealing millions of dollars and getting rich.
00:02:44.680 And then you're bragging about the white man working on TikTok.
00:02:48.640 Who's actually the racist? 0.99
00:02:49.700 You're the racist. 0.99
00:02:51.420 You're the one saying, the white man. 1.00
00:02:53.200 You work, white woman. 0.97
00:02:54.220 You work, white man. 0.98
00:02:55.460 We're sick of it. 0.98
00:02:56.500 Nobody cares.
00:02:57.820 Like, stop committing fraud.
00:02:59.420 If you're going to be here, be happy to be here and work hard like we're working hard. 0.56
00:03:03.740 Whether you're black, Mexican, Asian, white, just go and work. 0.98
00:03:07.280 And don't start playing this victim card and start trying to play political, make things
00:03:13.140 political about money, for instance, or don't get mad at people for making money.
00:03:17.480 Like, that's why America is the greatest country in the world, is because of capitalism.
00:03:22.900 And we had 250 years to do it.
00:03:24.860 All these other countries had thousands of years to do it.
00:03:27.240 But they didn't do it.
00:03:29.000 That's why we have to protect what's ours.
00:03:31.580 No question about it.
00:03:32.300 By the way, what was your relationship like with Charlie?
00:03:34.880 He texted me the day before he got shot.
00:03:37.580 Stop it.
00:03:38.740 Yeah.
00:03:39.240 Like, he invited me on his show.
00:03:40.740 I was actually the last guest to ever go on Charlie Kirk's show before he got shot.
00:03:43.660 Are you kidding me?
00:03:44.580 Yeah.
00:03:47.300 You were the last guest to go on Charlie's show before he got shot and killed?
00:03:50.360 Yeah.
00:03:50.720 It was like an hour before he got shot.
00:03:54.220 Rob, did you know this?
00:03:55.380 No idea.
00:03:55.840 I did not know this.
00:03:58.480 And so I wasn't, like, personal friends with Charlie.
00:04:00.400 But, like, that's why it hit me so hard, him dying.
00:04:03.820 One, he texted me the night before.
00:04:05.440 And then I was literally the last guest to go on his show.
00:04:08.900 Wow.
00:04:11.020 Wow.
00:04:11.660 And what was the conversation about the last day you were on with Charlie?
00:04:15.580 Well, he just invited me on his show.
00:04:17.360 And then, because he was going to do the debate, it was his co-host, Andrew, who was hosting the show.
00:04:22.320 Yeah.
00:04:22.640 That's right.
00:04:23.060 And I'm from Utah, too.
00:04:24.720 And what's strange about me, as I was supposed to be at that event, and I was going to go do a live stream,
00:04:30.700 and I was even going to reach out at Turning Point to, like, be a part of it, because I'm well-known in Utah.
00:04:35.160 And for some reason, I decided to go back to New York.
00:04:39.140 Or else I would have been, who knows how close I would have been up on that stage, or if I was just in the crowd.
00:04:44.460 But I would have been live streaming it.
00:04:46.940 You would have been live streaming it if you were there.
00:04:48.800 Wow.
00:04:54.800 Who was Charlie to you?
00:04:56.820 Yeah.
00:04:57.980 I think he's just somebody that's similar to somebody like you.
00:05:03.080 You know they have your back, because you're also doing the same thing.
00:05:05.820 So you have that mutual respect for him.
00:05:08.460 And, yeah, you might not have agreed with everything Charlie said,
00:05:10.500 but if you think about what he did as far as the movement he created with Turning Point,
00:05:14.680 I don't know if you were at AmFest last week, but it's amazing.
00:05:17.880 Not last week, last year.
00:05:19.340 It's amazing to see that.
00:05:20.640 Even one person can gather 30,000 people for a convention in one weekend, right?
00:05:25.940 And I think he's just more so just like somebody who's in the fight with you,
00:05:31.740 speaking truth for what they believe and not standing down to anybody.
00:05:35.520 Do you have any interest in investigating and finding out what happened there and who shot him?
00:05:41.100 Do you have an opinion on that?
00:05:42.360 I think it was Tyler Robinson.
00:05:45.240 You think it was Tyler Robinson?
00:05:46.400 For sure.
00:05:46.960 I think so.
00:05:47.540 Because I'm from Utah, the most violent protesters I've ever been around,
00:05:51.820 that I've been attacked by, are people in Utah.
00:05:53.820 Seriously?
00:05:54.500 Yeah.
00:05:54.780 Why is that?
00:05:55.720 Well, in Utah, we're primarily, most of us are members of the Church of Jesus Christ.
00:06:00.500 We're Mormons.
00:06:01.260 We primarily support Trump, and we don't fall into the agenda of the LGBTQ+, because of our religion. 0.97
00:06:10.400 You can do whatever you want, but for instance, in our religion, we believe that marriage is between a man and woman.
00:06:20.040 And so if you're anything that's not, if you're not a Christian, for instance, and you are in this mob mentality of Antifa,
00:06:32.500 of these left-wing ideas where they think literally Trump's the devil or Charlie Kirk's a fascist.
00:06:38.720 And so if you're inside of Utah, and you're somebody who does not believe in that, and you're not happy,
00:06:44.500 you're in the worst place you could possibly be for yourself. 0.90
00:06:49.800 And that's why people in Utah have, that's why the liberals are so crazy in Utah, 0.96
00:06:54.700 and that's why there's been two killing political attacks in Utah this year.
00:06:57.680 At no Kings protest, somebody got shot and killed.
00:07:00.840 I was supposed to be at that as well.
00:07:02.480 And they killed Charlie Kirk in Utah.
00:07:06.760 Have you investigated to see who knows Robinson?
00:07:10.000 Have you talked to anybody that knows him personally?
00:07:13.460 Yes, because not that knows him personally, but I do have friends that live in St. George,
00:07:19.840 and his family was in his ward, in his church.
00:07:23.140 And so I think he was just some person who, he left the church, and he became,
00:07:30.240 when somebody leaves the church for some reason, it becomes their whole personality, typically,
00:07:34.020 and they just become very anti-Mormon, and they just, like, their whole mission is just like,
00:07:37.980 their personality becomes like, I'm an anti-Mormon, like, what are you doing, being a member of the church?
00:07:42.600 And so that's why he was so radicalized in a way where he got to the point where he literally thought
00:07:47.280 he needed to kill Charlie Kirk.
00:07:49.180 Wow. 0.51
00:07:49.940 So he was previously an LDS?
00:07:52.140 Yeah, I believe so.
00:07:53.980 Okay.
00:07:54.400 And his parents are still?
00:07:56.700 I can't confirm.
00:07:57.920 Got it.
00:07:58.340 But I imagine so.
00:07:59.800 Wow.
00:08:00.160 They've left the state.
00:08:01.380 They've left the state?
00:08:02.420 Yeah, they're nowhere to be seen.
00:08:03.580 Even the boyfriend, the transgender boyfriend, his family's left the state, I've heard, too.
00:08:09.460 The furry guy?
00:08:10.320 Yeah.
00:08:11.080 Wow.
00:08:11.540 I hope where they went, there's some fur, because it's important to them.
00:08:14.840 Yeah, so, like, it's literally the worst spot for somebody to be if you're not a God-loving man
00:08:20.340 who loves your family.
00:08:21.260 Makes sense.
00:08:21.800 And we're all, in Utah, most of us are all successful, too.
00:08:25.060 Like, there's not that much poverty in Utah.
00:08:26.720 Mormons are workers. 0.91
00:08:28.240 It's the one thing.
00:08:29.280 Mormons are workers. 0.91
00:08:30.580 And this guy, I mean, obviously, you know, the world, especially us, we want to know more
00:08:35.880 of what happened with them.
00:08:36.620 I want to get to the bottom of it, and I hope they eventually do, because it's causing a
00:08:42.140 lot of uncertainty with certain people.
00:08:43.640 I'm Nick Shirley, and you guys can find me here on Manect.
00:08:45.880 Go ahead and ask me any questions, whether it be about politics, about what I believe,
00:08:49.960 or where I think the future of the country will be going, or just, quite frankly, anything.
00:08:54.500 You can ask me here on Manect.
00:08:56.020 I really appreciate all your support, and I can't wait to answer your questions.
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