Verdict with Ted Cruz - May 27, 2021


14 Months to Slow the Spread ft. Steve Deace

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Steve Dace Donald Trump Glenn Youngkin Liz Cheney Prince Harry Elise Stefanik Anthony Fauci Chuck Schumer Carl George W. Bush Francis Collins Thomas Massey Jim Risch Joe Biden Martin Kulldorff John Ioannidis Roger Marshall Sanjay Gupta Barack Obama Bob McDonnell and 9 more
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Ted Cruz explains why Liz Cheney is no longer the Republican Conference Chair in the House of Representatives, and why Elise Stefanik is now the new chair of the Republican Study Committee. Plus, a look at why the media loves to talk about Republican infighting, and what it means for the future of the party.

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00:00:04.140 I never thought that I would care about who ascended to the number three party leadership position in the House.
00:00:13.360 But believe it or not, the House conference chair race seems to signal a whole lot about the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement.
00:00:23.260 Liz Cheney is out.
00:00:24.600 Elise Stefanik is in.
00:00:26.020 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:00:26.840 This is Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:00:30.000 Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:00:37.360 Senator, usually we talk about very heady things from the Senate, from the upper chamber on this show.
00:00:44.640 Now we've got to talk about the lower chamber.
00:00:46.420 I hate to bring the tone down here.
00:00:48.380 But this race, this – in an ordinary year, this would be sort of a nothing story, has come to dominate the news cycle.
00:00:55.040 And the left is making a lot of hay out of it because there's infighting in the GOP, so they like that.
00:00:59.360 But Republicans are paying a lot of attention too, I think, because there's a big split here for the future of the party.
00:01:05.580 You had Liz Cheney was in the position, and she spent a lot of her time bashing conservatives in the Washington Post and other left-wing outlets. 1.00
00:01:12.640 Then you had Elise Stefanik, who has a more liberal voting record actually than Cheney, but she, I guess, was more loyal to Donald Trump, and she was nicer to the conservative base.
00:01:23.200 You then had Chip Roy, who I seem to recall you know quite well.
00:01:26.720 Indeed.
00:01:27.020 Very – a very conservative member of the House.
00:01:29.860 He was challenging Stefanik for the position.
00:01:32.560 It's a little insider baseball, but I think that this probably could have some big effects on the party.
00:01:37.560 You know, yes and no.
00:01:38.640 I actually don't think it's that big a deal going forward.
00:01:41.620 I think the press wants to turn it into World War III because their favorite topic is Republicans infighting.
00:01:48.360 And it's also the only way Democrats can keep the House in 2022 is if we have a civil war on the Republican side.
00:01:56.660 If we don't have a civil war, I think we are very likely to take the House in 2022, and I think we've got a decent shot at taking the Senate.
00:02:04.140 Look, what the House Republican conference did, it had to do.
00:02:08.860 Liz Cheney could no longer be in a leadership role because she had – she'd lost it. 0.74
00:02:14.540 I actually like Liz. 0.79
00:02:15.820 I get along perfectly fine with Liz.
00:02:17.660 I don't agree with her on everything.
00:02:19.420 You know, when it comes to foreign policy, she's much more of a neocon.
00:02:24.020 She's willing to send the Marines at the drop of a hat. 0.98
00:02:27.800 I disagree with her on that.
00:02:28.780 With a name like Cheney, one could infer this thing.
00:02:31.880 Look, she believes that sincerely.
00:02:33.540 I just – I think she's wrong.
00:02:37.700 But what caused this – so she hates Trump, and she had criticized Trump.
00:02:42.700 She voted to impeach Trump, and then there was another effort to, like, vote her out.
00:02:46.640 Yeah.
00:02:47.660 A couple months ago, and it failed.
00:02:49.280 It failed resoundingly.
00:02:50.380 It failed, I think, two to one.
00:02:51.540 That's right.
00:02:51.820 I remember that. 0.53
00:02:52.760 Had she just shut up, she would have been fine. 0.98
00:02:56.720 It actually would have been very simple for her to say, I've said everything I'm going to say on that.
00:03:02.740 I got nothing more to say.
00:03:03.680 And she would still be Republican conference chair.
00:03:07.280 They had a vote on it, two to one.
00:03:09.120 What was weird is she decided that it was somehow made sense to spend every day attacking all of the other Republicans.
00:03:18.160 Do you think – was this an accident that her emotions ran away with her, or do you think this was strategic?
00:03:24.640 No, I think she was on tilt.
00:03:26.820 Look, if someone who is supposed to be your leader is attacking every other member of the party every day, at some point it's like, all right, enough already.
00:03:36.240 You can't be our leader.
00:03:37.200 Like, you can have your views.
00:03:38.520 Right, right. 0.99
00:03:39.080 But you ain't leading us if you say we suck every day long. 0.98
00:03:43.360 And so she forced Republicans to vote her out. 0.99
00:03:47.060 I don't think it's indicative of a broader civil war because I actually think Liz's views are really a tiny fraction of the party.
00:03:55.760 Because you hear this in the media.
00:03:58.760 Because the media all hates Trump.
00:04:00.620 And so if Liz hates Trump too, she's in the majority position.
00:04:04.100 Look, a couple of weeks ago, Liz had a comment blasting me and saying that I should be ineligible for support.
00:04:13.800 And it was funny.
00:04:14.640 I actually – my press team said, okay, what kind of comment should you make on this?
00:04:22.040 And we sort of talked back and forth what sort of comment I should give.
00:04:25.440 And like I said, I like Liz.
00:04:26.980 I don't have personal animosity.
00:04:28.360 And so the comment that I came up with, as I said, you know, I think I'll just say, well, you know, I think she has a very promising future as an MSNBC contributor.
00:04:39.560 Beyond this intra-political House race or the meta-political, I guess, the politics of politics, I'm interested in some of these other races around the country because a lot of us are looking at 2022 and then ultimately at 2024.
00:04:51.520 You've been involved.
00:04:54.060 I mean, you've made big endorsements.
00:04:55.520 There have been races that have taken place.
00:04:58.300 Where does the party stand when we're actually facing the voters?
00:05:02.720 Look, I think we're in a very good position.
00:05:04.980 I told you I believe 2022 is going to be a very good election.
00:05:07.960 There's actually an earlier moment than that, which is you've got a couple of states that have off-cycle elections.
00:05:13.820 And so Virginia, for example, Virginia is electing a new governor in 2021.
00:05:17.980 And if you look historically, the last time you had a Democratic White House, a Democratic House of Representatives, and a Democratic Senate was 2008.
00:05:31.760 Barack Obama was elected with Democrat majorities in both houses.
00:05:35.360 They passed a radical left-wing agenda.
00:05:38.560 2009, the next year, Virginia elected a Republican as governor, Bob McDonald.
00:05:43.160 And Virginia is often a canary in a coal mine because it's the first chance voters get to express their views on where things are going in Washington.
00:05:53.240 I think Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi are going radically left.
00:05:57.600 And I think Virginia, we've got a very good shot at electing a governor.
00:06:01.960 So the Republican nominee is a guy named Glenn Youngkin.
00:06:05.560 Glenn is a friend of mine.
00:06:06.600 So I endorsed Glenn in the primary, and I campaigned with him.
00:06:10.420 So last week, I was on the road with Glenn, did, I don't know, seven or eight rallies all over the state.
00:06:16.080 Interesting, the way Virginia picks its governor, they did a modified convention where they had delegates.
00:06:24.500 They had about 50,000 people who were delegates to a convention, and it was a distributed virtual convention, sort of a COVID thing.
00:06:33.840 It was weird.
00:06:34.380 So it wasn't a primary, but it wasn't like an in-person convention.
00:06:39.660 So it was a strange election to campaign because you basically got 50,000 people who were eligible to vote, who are the people who have registered to be delegates.
00:06:50.240 And in the rallies, I mean, we had the two days of rallies, we had several thousand people come out.
00:06:57.060 And I think we ended up seeing in person in those two days probably about 10 percent of the delegates who ended up voting.
00:07:05.460 Some people are saying, I sound like President Trump now, a lot of people are saying everybody's talking.
00:07:09.860 Some people are saying that your endorsement was decisive.
00:07:13.540 Certainly for the people that came to the rallies, I think to many of them that was persuasive.
00:07:19.820 And I do think my going and barnstorming with him also helped him bring out a lot more people to the rally.
00:07:25.040 So there's sort of a double, you can drive a narrative, you can communicate.
00:07:29.100 There's a vouching process of, okay, look, I as a voter may not know so-and-so, but if I trust you and you know so-and-so, that means something.
00:07:40.080 And then I do think that particularly in this sort of weird distributed convention, getting the people to come out to the rallies, I think there were some people that came to the rallies, that were coming because they were supporters of mine.
00:07:55.140 But they saw Glenn, and he's impressive.
00:07:57.980 Like when you see him in person, he's an impressive guy, he's a likable guy, and I suspect there's some people who came to the rally not knowing if they were going to back him or not,
00:08:08.800 who I think when they left decided they were going to back him.
00:08:12.000 Now, Senator, I want to talk for a second about two weeks to slow the spread turned into about 14 months, but now it seems we're on the other side.
00:08:19.480 There's been insanity the entire journey, and the entire journey has also been marred by a consistent refusal to listen to science, masked in a facade of science.
00:08:32.700 And our guest today, Steve Dace, who is a dear friend, who is a brilliant thinker, a brilliant writer, a fearless conservative, has written a book.
00:08:44.260 And so, Steve, tell us about your book.
00:08:48.340 There are two things that are really hallmarks, pillars of our healthcare system, that the average American, if they were faced with a serious healthcare decision in their own lives, would be granted automatically,
00:09:01.880 and they have been denied via public policy collectively for the last year.
00:09:06.120 The first one is informed consent.
00:09:08.080 You have a right to consent to a treatment, to know whether the treatment is worse than the disease.
00:09:15.140 That's been denied us.
00:09:16.960 In fact, in the last few days, ironically, a lot of the data that people like me were called crackpots for disseminating for the past year about masks and lockdowns and shutdowns and social distancing numbers
00:09:29.480 and where the six feet originated from a student's term paper and all these other things, it's funny.
00:09:35.120 Just in the last couple of weeks now, suddenly they want to confirm all these things because apparently somebody's internal polling is really, really bad.
00:09:42.660 The only science that evolves that fast, guys, is political science, if you know what I'm saying, okay?
00:09:47.640 So that's the first thing, is informed consent.
00:09:50.880 We were denied that.
00:09:52.120 The second is the right to a second opinion.
00:09:54.040 I mean, somebody comes to you and says, well, you've got a really terrible mass on an appendage, and I've got to remove that appendage so it doesn't spread to the rest of the body.
00:10:02.260 That might be true.
00:10:03.840 Before you give up an appendage, you're probably going to go get a second opinion because you kind of like your appendages.
00:10:08.680 And there have been experts from the very beginning at some of the most renowned centers of academia in the world, Oxford, number one rated university in the earth,
00:10:18.980 Stanford, Harvard, Yale, some of the top rated universities in America that have had varying opinions and contrarian opinions from a public policy standpoint on how to deal with this pandemic.
00:10:30.240 And they have been almost exclusively ignored.
00:10:33.660 In fact, recently, Governor DeSantis in Florida hosted a panel with them, and that panel got banned on YouTube because apparently some skinny jean wearing avocado toast obsessed engineer at Facebook
00:10:45.620 knows more about COVID-19 than Dr. Martin Kulldorff at Harvard, who designed the VAERS incident website for the CDC.
00:10:53.100 That is the world in which we live, and it's why we've kind of had this hammer meets nail, ham-fisted, one-size-fits-all authoritarian solution over the last year
00:11:03.840 instead of solutions that might have actually solved some things.
00:11:07.300 So let's talk about lockdowns, which was a draconian step that was imposed across the country.
00:11:14.000 What was the scientific basis for lockdowns?
00:11:18.700 Does it make any sense that we saw the entire country voluntarily shut down and destroy trillions of dollars of value, destroy people's lives?
00:11:28.620 What was the basis for this?
00:11:31.280 There was none.
00:11:32.280 Really, the notion of quarantining the healthy.
00:11:35.260 I mean, Ted, this has never been done in human history, quarantining the healthy during a pandemic, during an outbreak.
00:11:41.400 We did this for two reasons.
00:11:42.700 One, this was experimented.
00:11:44.640 This was an experiment that came from a student term paper that somehow made its way into some halls of science late in the Bush administration. 1.00
00:11:52.720 George W. Bush, they looked at it and thought, wow, that's stupid. 1.00
00:11:55.880 It's never going to work. 1.00
00:11:56.740 And somehow we ended up doing it last year.
00:12:00.220 And then a lot of this also came from the Imperial College model that was released on March 16th of last year,
00:12:06.100 which says, by the way, that it doesn't know for certain how coronavirus is spread.
00:12:11.440 Now, I don't know, man.
00:12:13.040 I didn't stay at a holiday in an express last night, but I kind of think that when your model on transmission of a virus admits it doesn't know how a virus is transmitted,
00:12:21.760 maybe that's a problem.
00:12:22.540 Your model is a problem.
00:12:23.520 OK, but it said if we didn't do these social distancing issues, if we did not do these things where we put people away for a period of a few months and then let them come back out.
00:12:34.340 And then if they did, the virus would return.
00:12:35.840 So we'd have to do waves and waves of these lockdowns and reopenings over the course of several years that that's because millions and millions of people would die if we didn't do it.
00:12:46.540 Here's the problem with why this all didn't work, because it all began from a flawed assumption.
00:12:52.020 Well, really, a couple of flawed assumptions.
00:12:53.740 Number one, that the Chinese were telling the truth. 1.00
00:12:56.720 That was a flawed assumption.
00:12:58.020 These were I'm really shocked that the nation that was faced with its first open trade war from the United States in decades and was on the heels of unprecedented civil unrest in its chief financial district of Hong Kong when a virus broke out, thought the best thing for the rest of the world to do was to economically shut down.
00:13:17.460 What a weird coincidence.
00:13:18.740 If we didn't have Wuhan for luck, we'd have no luck at all.
00:13:21.480 All right.
00:13:21.640 So we couldn't trust the Chinese. 1.00
00:13:23.060 That's number one.
00:13:23.700 These were all their solutions.
00:13:25.000 But then number two, because we didn't understand that the virus was primarily as airborne spread contagion.
00:13:31.760 That's why there's no that's why there's no real outdoor spread.
00:13:34.840 That's why you're loose fitting cloth masks don't work.
00:13:37.520 We heard about droplets and fomites for months and months and months when in reality it is an airborne contagion.
00:13:43.940 Steve, I want to talk for a second about the subtitle of the book.
00:13:47.900 The title is the Fauci and bargain, but the subtitle refers to the most powerful and dangerous bureaucrat in American history.
00:13:57.080 We're sitting here with a United States senator, with a legislator.
00:14:01.080 I thought that the way laws were made in this country, correct me if I'm wrong, was that the legislators legislate and the executive who is also elected enforces the law.
00:14:10.180 But somehow we've gotten into this position where these technocrats, these eggheads, are governing the country and have much more power than our elected officials. 0.68
00:14:19.440 You apparently watched the same Schoolhouse Rock, Michael, that I did growing up.
00:14:23.620 I'm just a bill on Capitol Hill, right?
00:14:26.140 But, you know, it's funny as Congressman Thomas Massey was tweeting yesterday that he was on a domestic flight and the flight attendant came on and said,
00:14:32.500 And under federal law, you must wear your mask at all times, and Massey's like, wait a minute, I'm the guy, I'm the only guy on this plane that makes laws.
00:14:39.700 I don't ever remember voting on any such law, all right?
00:14:42.600 But that's one of the main points we raise at the very beginning of the book, Michael, is in the introduction.
00:14:48.180 That even though there's a singular figure here in Anthony Fauci, he has been the point person on this all along.
00:14:54.340 The reality is he's 80.
00:14:56.260 If he had retired at 75, 70, like a lot of other Americans do, particularly ones looking at the pension that he's got staring him in the face, it would have just been somebody else.
00:15:05.720 That another creature would have emerged in the Black Lagoon.
00:15:08.980 He is, pardon the theological pun here, legion.
00:15:12.380 That this is what the technocratic administrative state produces.
00:15:15.620 It might have been Debbie Bedazzle, your face shield, Burks instead, or Francis Collins, who went from mapping the human genome to being fully vaccinated and wearing masks outside. 0.96
00:15:26.240 Who knows who else it would have been?
00:15:28.440 Some other nameless, faceless bureaucrat no one else had ever heard of until now.
00:15:32.460 But this is the way that the system works.
00:15:35.260 We pass the buck of accountability.
00:15:37.720 Well, these are what our experts told us.
00:15:39.260 These are what our technocrats told us.
00:15:41.100 This is what the bureaucrats told us.
00:15:43.060 And then you have no way of going at them.
00:15:44.880 They're never elected.
00:15:46.060 Your elected officials wash their hands of it.
00:15:48.140 Well, we just did what the experts in the bureaucratic class told us to do.
00:15:52.040 And the notion of government by the consent of the governed, Michael, is just tossed aside.
00:15:58.440 So if you write a sequel to the book, and it's Dacean bargain, what should our leaders have done?
00:16:06.560 If we can go back in time, and Steve Dace is in charge, the Wuhan virus begins.
00:16:14.480 What should we have done?
00:16:16.280 There's two things I would have done if I were the oracle at Delphi and consulted in the matter.
00:16:23.300 The first is, to me, I don't believe the 15 days to flatten the curve.
00:16:28.280 I think it was, I wouldn't have made that decision, but I think it's an understandable decision.
00:16:32.600 I think it's like in a basketball game when the other team's on a scoring run and your coach calls a timeout to thwart their momentum.
00:16:39.320 And so I think, hey, we're getting all this unprecedented heat pressure.
00:16:42.560 Don't know if we can trust what China's telling us.
00:16:44.700 Let's just get a TO, baby, and let's just sit this one out for a couple of weeks and see what we're dealing with.
00:16:49.040 The 30 days to slow the spread, I believe, was the absolute worst decision in the history of the U.S. presidency, because the entire narrative was lost from there.
00:16:59.220 During the 15 days, that's when President Trump and his advisors should have brought in John Ioannidis from Stanford, Scott Atlas from Stanford, Jay, I can never pronounce his last name correctly, from Stanford.
00:17:11.040 Sanitra Gupta from Oxford, members of the Center for Evidence-Based Medicine at Oxford, scientists from Carnegie Mellon, Dr. Katz from Yale, Dr. Risch from Yale, Dr. Kolder from Harvard.
00:17:28.480 Put him in a room with Debbie Burks, put him in a room with Francis Collins at NIH and Anthony Fauci, put all those people in a room, put them on camera.
00:17:38.000 It's a steel cage match of expertise.
00:17:40.700 There's wisdom in a multitude of counsel.
00:17:42.680 Let them put their heads together.
00:17:44.120 Let them bounce ideas off of one another.
00:17:46.640 We never did that.
00:17:47.580 We never consulted a second opinion and essentially allowed Anthony Fauci to use the Trump White House as his ascendancy to potentate status, unassailable status.
00:17:59.480 Well, and Steve, you'll recall how a number of weeks ago I had reporters in Washington freaking out because I wasn't wearing a mask while doing a press conference and talking to a TV camera.
00:18:11.840 And this one reporter in particular threw a fit.
00:18:16.660 And I observed, look, everyone here has been vaccinated.
00:18:19.040 What, why, you know, I watched the CDC's announcement last week, and in particular their explanation on Sunday that the science has evolved.
00:18:34.100 Is it new science that vaccines work or was this always?
00:18:40.280 Look, I haven't been wearing a mask for a lot of weeks on the Senate floor ever since I got vaccinated.
00:18:46.780 I'm like, OK, look, I believe in science.
00:18:48.500 I have a vaccine.
00:18:49.740 What what the hell am I wearing a mask for?
00:18:51.920 And yet there were only.
00:18:55.900 As of last week, there were only four senators not wearing masks.
00:18:59.260 There was Rand Paul, who hasn't worn one throughout it.
00:19:02.380 I was the second and I haven't worn a mask for well over a month now after I got vaccinated.
00:19:07.460 Roger Marshall, another medical doctor, was the third who didn't wear a mask.
00:19:12.360 And actually, just starting last week, Jim Risch from Iowa became the fourth.
00:19:15.920 And he finally said, all right, to hell with it.
00:19:17.560 I'm taking my mask off.
00:19:19.100 I got to say yesterday after the CDC announcement, I walked onto the Senate floor and two thirds of the people are maskless.
00:19:26.180 Chuck Schumer is maskless.
00:19:27.500 And I just stood there and basked in the freedom.
00:19:32.320 You know, we had Joe Biden's, you know, pseudo State of the Union address where everyone wore a mask in a chamber where everyone there had been vaccinated.
00:19:42.200 Is this a new evolution of science that vaccines work? 0.92
00:19:46.580 Or was the CDC full of crap when they said people who are vaccinated should wear 19 masks and be in an isolation chamber? 0.97
00:19:54.640 Well, you see, it's quite clear. 0.86
00:19:56.020 I think it gets to Steve's subtitle here.
00:19:59.080 No science changed.
00:20:00.560 But what changed were the statements from these bureaucrats, these very powerful bureaucrats.
00:20:05.160 And then everybody, including Chuck Schumer, fall in line.
00:20:09.280 I suppose we can be happy in the short run that we get to take the mask off.
00:20:13.240 We get to breathe the sweet air of freedom, at least to some degree.
00:20:16.140 But to your point, Senator, and Steve, to your book, we may well see a sequel of this soon.
00:20:21.040 So can we can we hold on to our freedom?
00:20:23.560 And I will note there are at least some of my Democratic colleagues who I think should keep wearing the mask.
00:20:29.000 And if only they could tighten it a little bit because some of their words are still getting out.
00:20:33.900 And if we could just tighten those masks, that really would be a public service.
00:20:37.000 You know, on that very important medical advice, I believe we need to leave it there, gentlemen.
00:20:40.940 But I strongly recommend that everybody go out and get the Fauci and bargain, not only because you will learn a lot, not only because it's very important as a political matter, but also because it's a very funny title.
00:20:53.880 Steve, thank you so much for being here.
00:20:55.500 Senator, we've only got a minute or two left, but I cannot let you go without bringing up this mailbag question.
00:21:00.720 I think it's very important.
00:21:01.760 And, you know, we're talking about all sorts of politics and the politics of politics and this insider baseball stuff.
00:21:09.040 So if you think that the number three position in the House doesn't matter, let's talk about the Prince of England.
00:21:15.860 This is a question from Carl.
00:21:18.700 Carl wants to know, Senator Cruz, would you please explain to the Limey overseas how the First Amendment is most certainly not bonkers?
00:21:30.760 Thank you. Love the show, Carl.
00:21:35.040 Yeah, that pissed me off.
00:21:36.320 For those who don't know, Prince Harry is even still a prince.
00:21:39.120 The erstwhile, the sometime prince, the artist formerly known as Prince Harry called the First Amendment bonkers in an interview. 0.92
00:21:47.200 Yeah, he kind of reminded me of King George and Hamilton as sort of this foppish nitwit singing to the colonies, you'll be back. 0.97
00:22:01.360 You'll be back. 0.97
00:22:02.700 Please continue.
00:22:03.440 You've got a microphone in front of you.
00:22:05.440 That's only for the subscribers.
00:22:06.760 We need to have subscribers.
00:22:09.420 That's worth talking about.
00:22:10.660 Well, if the pitch is that they get to see me do a soft shoe, I don't know that that's going to be the strongest sales pitch.
00:22:15.940 But yes, it would be great to hear.
00:22:18.020 So would you do it in full costume of King George?
00:22:20.580 Oh, that's the only way I would do it.
00:22:21.780 Good, good, good.
00:22:22.680 I'm glad.
00:22:23.560 Look, I mean, Prince Harry, I don't care if you're here.
00:22:27.760 I actually like the whole Meghan Markle thing.
00:22:30.380 I find it difficult to find something I care less about.
00:22:35.040 So listen, I don't necessarily fault the guy for saying I want out.
00:22:38.580 Fine. 0.99
00:22:39.420 You know, OK, you want out, but don't be a pretentious leftist nitwit. 0.98
00:22:43.700 And if you do come to our country, fine. 1.00
00:22:45.800 You want to come to our country? 1.00
00:22:46.640 Great.
00:22:47.120 Like, don't have such an arrogant, elitist condescension to this country that you don't bother to understand anything we're about.
00:22:55.280 Yeah, he's ridiculing the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
00:23:01.760 And and I get that that leftists don't believe in free speech, that they want government control, because you know what?
00:23:09.220 It would be really nice, I'm sure, from his perspective if he could silence anyone from criticizing.
00:23:15.140 Of course.
00:23:16.320 But that's not the way it works.
00:23:18.120 But freedom is a powerful thing. 0.99
00:23:19.980 And by the way, the last British monarch who said you can't have freedom, we threw their tea in a harbor and kicked their ass in a war. 0.99
00:23:25.660 You're right. 0.99
00:23:26.340 Right.
00:23:26.700 And there is something to it.
00:23:28.260 I guess there actually is a bit of a through line when we're talking about the House race or other races around the country or even Prince Harry, which is there's something very unseemly about this ingratitude, you know, to your to your family, to your adoptive country, to this great political system that's given you a lot of rights to your constituents.
00:23:45.940 That to yours, your words, that condescension, that arrogance, that elitism is really whatever the future is for the conservative movement, for the Republican Party, for our politics.
00:23:56.760 That ain't it.
00:23:57.920 If that is the future, then count me out.
00:24:00.000 I want to be out of that.
00:24:01.080 But of course, we're going to see how that future is going to break, not just in the Republican leadership, but in these races, 2021, 2022, and ultimately 2024.
00:24:11.540 But we'll have to, I suppose, hold it there for now.
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