00:05:46.820Chuck Schumer and the Democrats will stand with Biden and stand with Iran against America and against our Israeli allies.
00:05:55.580We're going to keep trying to get answers to these questions, obviously, and we'll keep you updated on it.
00:05:59.280I do want to deal with, obviously, the massive story of the day that is taking in the headlines,
00:06:04.140and that's exactly why we wanted to make sure you knew what was going on with Iran, and that is with impeachment.
00:06:08.560We are moving forward with impeachment on the House side.
00:06:10.940Kevin McCarthy has come out announcing that.
00:06:13.200This podcast started with the first impeachment.
00:06:15.320Did you ever imagine, Senator, that we would be sitting here on this podcast now looking like we're going into a third impeachment when you started this show originally?
00:07:55.020It was a flat-out bald-faced lie, and it was demonstrably disproven,
00:07:59.660including by Devin Archer saying some 20 times Joe would call in to talk to Hunter's overseas business partners.
00:08:08.260So then, explanation number two was Joe Biden was not in business with his son Hunter in his corrupt overseas deals.
00:08:20.060Now, that's very different from I never discussed it, but they realized they couldn't defend that, so it wasn't in business.
00:08:25.600So they've run away from not in business anymore.
00:08:27.960That's no longer defensible, because it's clear the entire business was selling favors from daddy.
00:08:35.780So, talking point number three, which you're seeing multiple Democrats use word for word,
00:08:41.300you're seeing the media use word for word, is there is no direct evidence of Joe Biden's involvement, of Joe Biden's corruption.
00:08:52.120Now, at the outset, that throws Hunter overboard.
00:08:56.680I think the Democrats have realized, all right, Hunter is crooked as the day is long.
00:09:00.460We can't defend this guy, so Hunter to heck with him.
00:09:03.800But there's no direct evidence of Joe.
00:09:06.840I want to break that down, because that is false, and it's a lie, and it's every bit as false as Biden never discussed it or wasn't in business with it.
00:09:18.020But let's take the no direct evidence and explain why it's wrong.
00:09:22.800Let me start by explaining what direct evidence is.
00:09:26.120So that's the kind of lawyer word that you see people use, that if you're not a lawyer, you're like, well, what does that even mean?
00:09:31.960So, in a court of law, there are two types of evidence that are typically relied on to prove a factual matter.
00:13:29.220The money or thing of value that was given, that's the quid.
00:13:35.360And that the two were connected, that's the pro.
00:13:39.260Well, one of those elements, the official action, is conclusively proven by Joe Biden in his on-camera admission to the Council of Foreign Relations,
00:13:52.720where he described how he flew to Ukraine.
00:13:54.900He held a billion dollars of federal tax, federal loan guarantees, hostage, and demanded that the Ukrainian government fire Viktor Shokin,
00:14:07.100who was the prosecutor who was prosecuting the Ukrainian oligarch.
00:14:11.620And Joe Biden, as we all know, as we played on this show many times, says, son of a bitch.
00:14:24.800It was like, this is how powerful I was.
00:14:26.820I could go over to Ukraine and tell them who to fire, and I could own them while it was happening.
00:14:33.080And if you watch that video, when I see it, it actually makes me angry because it was a glimpse into the abuse of power that Joe Biden was willing to wield around the world on a litany, probably, of issues.
00:14:53.920But of the elements of bribery, Joe Biden's confession on tape is direct evidence that he committed one of the critical elements of bribery.
00:15:06.740Now, we don't yet have direct evidence of every element of the crime, but we have direct evidence of one of the most critical aspects of the crime, which is the quo.
00:15:16.940That Joe Biden has admitted, and that is unequivocally direct evidence, and it's pretty damn compelling, direct evidence.
00:15:24.200There's a second very clear instance of direct evidence, and that is Hunter Biden's WhatsApp message to the Chinese communist official.
00:20:09.140Circumstantial evidence convicts people every single day.
00:20:12.180So, what is the circumstantial evidence?
00:20:13.660Look, with James Comer, he walked through the suspicious activity reports over and over and over again.
00:20:20.260The massive number of suspicious activity reports.
00:20:23.420The more than 20 shell companies, that is circumstantial evidence.
00:20:27.520As we talked through with James Comer, you don't create shell companies unless it is to hide the source of cash.
00:20:33.880That is serious circumstantial evidence.
00:20:35.800It's the allegations in the FD-1023 from a confidential human source that the FBI had previously found reliable who says that the Ukrainian oligarch told him that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden demanded $5 million each in order for Joe to get the prosecutor fired.
00:20:56.420Now, that's not direct evidence because the confidential human source doesn't know it directly.
00:21:01.000He's repeating what he says that the oligarch said.
00:21:06.340So, that is hearsay, but it is circumstantial evidence and is significant.
00:21:10.120The 20-plus million dollars that the House of Representatives has already documented that flowed into the Biden family to people, by the way, who by all appearances have no connection to foreign countries.
00:21:23.800It's just like, hey, I need your bank account and here's some money.
00:21:30.420Like, we haven't talked about that enough, Senator.
00:21:32.300The fact that you could just have the last name Biden and randomly you get, like, a text from Hunter, right, or from Joe that's like, hey, I need your bank account info.
00:21:42.240Like, that's got to be kind of cool if you're in that situation where it's just like, hey, yeah, I'm a Biden.
00:21:47.660Every once in a while, this money just randomly shows up in my bank account with a random LLC because that's what they've been doing for years, if not decades.
00:21:55.520Well, yes, although it may not be all that cool because, remember, Hunter Biden, in a 2019 text to his daughter, complains about how his father, Joe Biden, made him give him, quote, half his salary.
00:22:37.120We should, at the end of the year, just come up with all the possible crimes as examples that I have committed in my – in the last year on verdict and just turn it into a best stuff.
00:23:08.700Secondly, it's pretty strong circumstantial evidence that you are hiding evidence that demonstrates your guilt.
00:23:18.800And, in fact, you will see in a court of law, if a defendant destroys evidence, a court can instruct the jury to draw a negative inference that that evidence would have demonstrated – would have been bad for them.
00:23:33.500So, in this instance, we know that Joe Biden had multiple burner phones.
00:23:40.480We know that he had multiple fake emails, up to 5,400 of them in the National Archives.
00:23:49.700We know that he emailed Hunter Biden about Ukraine.
00:23:52.380And we know also that two senior IRS career employees have come forward as whistleblowers and have said the Biden administration engaged, number one, in lying to Congress under oath of felony.
00:24:29.600If it's yes, that is not direct evidence that Hunter was telling the truth, but it's pretty strong circumstantial evidence.
00:24:39.960And, according to the IRS whistleblowers, the Biden DOJ said, no, no, no, no, no, you cannot examine the GPS locations.
00:24:48.940They likewise said, no, you cannot ask anything about Joe.
00:24:51.540The fact that the Biden Department of Justice is willing to commit felonies, allegedly, according to the whistleblowers, in order to prevent investigation into Joe's involvement is powerful evidence of Joe's significant involvement.
00:25:13.200Because, just like throwing the gun off the bridge, you don't do it if you didn't do anything wrong.
00:25:18.000All right, let me ask you this question about this impeachment, compared to the Trump impeachment.
00:25:22.740The first impeachment, and if you were the lawyer for Trump then, it was more about defending yourself.
00:25:29.940A friend of mine, Jay Sekulow, as you know, helped with that first impeachment, defended the president.
00:25:34.020It was more about a vigorous defense of the absurdity of what they were charging Donald Trump with.
00:25:40.480This is obviously completely different than that.
00:25:49.980And they defended him, I think, pretty well.
00:25:52.100This impeachment, if you were defending Joe Biden from a legal standpoint, what are your biggest concerns if you're having to meet with Joe Biden?
00:26:01.940And what are your biggest concerns for his presidency if you're meeting with Joe Biden from a legal standpoint that could come out in this impeachment that maybe has never been, you know, has come out either, A, before you haven't had to at least answer questions for?
00:26:15.780Your biggest concern is all the evidence against you.
00:26:19.960The direct evidence, the direct evidence, the evidence that you basically admitted to one of the elements of bribery, the evidence, the text message that your son has been caught shaking down Chinese communist officials for millions of dollars and explicitly threatening that you're the one who would engage in retaliation, that has tied you into it.
00:26:42.700That direct evidence is certainly troubling, but all the circumstantial evidence would trouble you as well.
00:26:49.420And look, here's what the Biden White House is going to do.
00:26:54.860They're going to count on the corporate media to ignore that.
00:26:58.440They're going to count on the corporate media to echo their talking points.
00:27:01.280And not cover it like they did the Trump impeachments.
00:27:03.100To completely ignore it and refuse to address the facts.
00:27:09.920And every day you will see a night and day difference, not just between the Joe Biden impeachment and the Trump impeachments, but between the Joe Biden impeachment and the ridiculous Trump indictments.
00:27:23.920And we've discussed at great length on this podcast the Trump indictments, which are political and partisan.
00:27:28.700In this instance, the evidence of actual bribery by the president of the United States is serious and severe.
00:27:38.820And there's not a single Democrat who is willing to address the merits.
00:27:44.360They're counting on the press just to take their blanket dismissals.
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00:29:13.760Senator, I want to ask you also in impeachment real quick about witnesses.
00:29:17.720Are there people that can now be called that may have to answer for their involvement, whether it's those of the DOJ, whether it's Hunter Biden, whether it's other Biden family members?
00:29:29.520Walk us through how an impeachment works when it comes to witnesses.
00:29:32.180Well, Merrick Garland is expected to testify before the House Judiciary Committee in the coming days, and he will certainly face significant questions about the allegations that he personally lied under oath and committed a felony.
00:29:44.720Now, I assume he'll dodge all of them and defiantly and arrogantly refuse to engage in the substance.
00:29:51.520I also assume he will get questions about the allegations of obstruction of justice, and I expect Merrick Garland to not be remotely forthcoming.
00:30:00.620I think at some point you will see David Weiss called before Congress to testify.
00:30:06.620David Weiss has been directly implicated in the obstruction of justice, which is, I believe, why Merrick Garland named him the, quote, special counsel, because Garland and the Biden DOJ knew they could count on Weiss to protect the big guy.
00:30:18.480And that's their most important objective. We've talked about how Schwerin, who was the kind of money guy and fixer for Biden, is a very likely witness and could be a very damning witness.
00:30:29.840And I would anticipate seeing him come. And then we may well, I assume, Hunter Biden, if he's called to testify, will stonewall at this point the legal.
00:30:42.000What does that look like when you say stonewall? Like, what is that? Is it a tactic or are you saying he just won't answer questions?
00:30:47.060My assumption is he'll plead the fifth.
00:30:48.980OK, so you just come in and say, I plead the fifth and that's the end of it.
00:30:51.580I assume that's the case, given the multiple felonies and the fact that even dad's White House seems to be running away from him.
00:31:02.620I would be shocked if Hunter Biden said anything else other than on the advice of counsel, I plead the fifth.
00:31:09.760I will say one other thing, which is this Biden impeachment is demonstrating the utter and complete hypocrisy of congressional Democrats.
00:31:20.680Let me read what what Chuck Schumer said this week right after the House announced its impeachment.
00:31:27.060Schumer said, quote, I think the impeachment inquiry is absurd.
00:31:30.660The American people want us to do something that will make their lives better, not go off on these chases, witch hunts.
00:31:39.420So Schumer is literally using Trump's language about witch hunts and just repeating word for word what the defense was.
00:31:50.680Now, look, I think the Biden impeachments of Trump were witch hunts.
00:33:07.580That's what people that are cynical and frustrated are going to say about this.
00:33:11.340So how should we be looking at this impeachment?
00:33:15.300Is this should should should should people that are listening look at it from a standpoint of, hey, we're getting the truth out there in a very big way about Joe Biden before he's running for reelection.
00:33:26.340And in other words, judgment day may be election day.
00:33:30.060Or should we look at it and be frustrated and cynical because, like, well, even if we nail this thing in the House, it ain't going to pass the Senate.
00:33:36.420So he's not going to be impeached and lose his job over this.
00:33:39.280What mindset, what hat should listeners put on?
00:33:43.700Listen, the cynicism is not misplaced.
00:33:47.120Senate Democrats and House Democrats do not care what evidence there is of Joe Biden being corrupt of his soliciting and receiving bribes from foreign oligarchs.
00:34:40.960Right now we have zero Democrats who, to the best of my knowledge, I'm not aware of a single Democrat who's even asked a skeptical question, who has even said, well, you know, if Biden did in fact solicit and receive bribes from foreign nationals, that would be a problem.
00:35:07.160And I don't believe Democrats would ever, ever, ever turn on Biden because partisanship matters more than anything.
00:35:14.760But be that as it may, that does not mean that impeachment is a waste of time because it is the only way to put these facts before the American people.
00:35:25.700And in a sane and normal world, the Department of Justice would investigate and prosecute him.
00:35:31.500We'd get a special counsel who was independent, who was consistent with the DOJ rules, was not an employee of DOJ, and actually would investigate and convene a grand jury and potentially prosecute these crimes.
00:35:44.440The Biden DOJ won't do that because it's the most partisan and political DOJ we've ever seen.
00:35:49.840But putting these facts before the American people is valuable nonetheless.
00:35:54.720But to be clear, a critical part of that is what we're doing right now on verdict, which is the million people who listen to verdict.
00:36:02.780All of y'all now have the information when you go and you're talking to your brother-in-law, you're talking to your co-worker, you're talking to your classmate.
00:36:12.420And they say, well, you know, there's no direct evidence because that's the talking point they've heard.
00:36:24.000And it's how I believe ultimately you force accountability.
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00:38:18.480PBS on Sunday, they even had one of their commentators who said,
00:38:21.420I underestimated Joe Biden's involvement with Hunter Biden and the Biden family businesses.
00:38:28.540Is there a concern that if the Republicans play this too strong and don't take their time to lay out the evidence that this could backfire in the same way?
00:38:37.460And again, I'm asking from a political standpoint that every time the Democrats indict Donald Trump, what happens?
00:38:45.060Republicans stand behind Donald Trump even more.
00:38:51.520Is there a concern that if Republicans don't nail this the right way, that this actually galvanizes people that maybe are wishy-washy on Biden?
00:38:59.620And then it actually helps him stand up better than he is right now.
00:39:05.000And there's no doubt that the multiple indictments against Trump have added a lot of points, at least 10 points to his numbers in the primary,
00:39:13.280because Republicans have understandably gotten pissed off that it's obviously a political persecution.
00:39:18.700So that counsels that the Republicans in the House need to proceed carefully.
00:39:25.460They need to not have it appear political.
00:39:28.260Now, in today's world, there will be people who naturally assume it's political, but that is certainly a vulnerability to be aware of.
00:39:37.320Another vulnerability is, at some point, the Democrats and or the media might decide that Joe Biden is too wounded and jettison him and try to parachute someone else in.
00:39:47.360And I think that remains a very real risk.
00:39:49.560We're going to talk about that a lot more on the podcast, but not on this one.
00:39:53.080Yeah, there was an interesting article this week that mentioned five other names that came out all of a sudden of,
00:39:58.020if Joe Biden doesn't run, who's this going to be?