Verdict with Ted Cruz - Big Tech Exposed for Hurting Kids, plus Biden ATTACKS Texas & Americans by Restricting LNG Exports

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00:00:05.160 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.

00:00:07.720 Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:09.000 And Senator, there was a big hearing on Capitol Hill that dealt with big tech oversight.

00:00:15.440 There were CEOs there from Facebook and TikTok.

00:00:18.540 And I want to start with Facebook, Senator.

00:00:20.340 You had the opportunity to talk to Mark Zuckerberg

00:00:23.220 specifically over an issue of child exploitation being

00:00:27.380 the material being shared on Facebook.

00:00:30.700 Talk a little bit about why this hearing was so important.

00:00:34.000 Well, sure. Let me set the stage.

00:00:35.580 So this was Wednesday morning.

00:00:37.480 It was a hearing of five CEOs of big tech.

00:00:41.400 So you had Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO of Meta, which is Facebook and Instagram and others.

00:00:46.520 You had the CEO of TikTok.

00:00:48.780 You had the CEO of X, formerly Twitter.

00:00:52.660 You had the CEO of Snapchat.

00:00:54.320 And you had the CEO of Discord.

00:00:55.420 And they were all testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

00:00:58.880 And the focus was the abuse of children.

00:01:03.400 And in particular, children being targeted by predators, by pedophiles,

00:01:08.520 children being subject to extortion.

00:01:10.880 And you have to picture the hearing room.

00:01:13.780 So it's a very large hearing room.

00:01:15.640 It's the hearing room where we do, for example, hearings on Supreme Court justices.

00:01:20.400 So it's one of, if not the biggest hearing room on Capitol Hill.

00:01:24.420 It's got a big audience.

00:01:26.100 And in the audience, the room was filled.

00:01:28.600 It was standing room only with parents who had lost their children to suicide,

00:01:36.360 to abuse, who had been traumatized and abused online.

00:01:40.660 And predators had approached them online.

00:01:45.160 In many instances, predators will do things like convincing young children, convincing teenagers

00:01:52.880 to send them compromising pictures, to send them naked photographs.

00:01:57.520 And then these scammers will often blackmail the kids and threaten,

00:02:03.180 we're going to release these pictures unless you pay us money.

00:02:06.080 And in a number of instances, the kids pay money.

00:02:09.040 And repeatedly, we've seen children taking their own lives, committing suicide.

00:02:13.980 And so you had a room full of parents who had photographs of their children,

00:02:19.440 most of whom presumably had lost their lives, some of whom maybe had survived,

00:02:25.240 but had been badly impacted, whether it was by sexual predators or other forms of hostile activity.

00:02:34.880 And so the focus of the hearing was on big tech and big tech really not only allowing our children to be in jeopardy,

00:02:47.460 but profiting off of addicting our children to social media and everything dangerous that comes from it.

00:02:56.820 You talk about the dangers and not just Facebook, but also TikTok.

00:03:01.320 There's been lots of warning from those in the medical community, pediatric doctors,

00:03:07.980 about the depression and also the addictive nature of these apps.

00:03:11.360 They've created them to become life-altering for young people, and it takes over their lives. 0.85

00:03:15.900 And that's where you're talking about not only are these predators using it,

00:03:19.680 but the depression that comes in, and yet they're readily available, and almost all these kids have them.

00:03:24.780 Well, that's exactly right.

00:03:26.000 You know, there's a great movie that is called The Social Dilemma,

00:03:29.360 which if you haven't watched it, I recommend it to you.

00:03:32.040 It's a movie about how social media companies target our kids,

00:03:36.840 how they have algorithms designed to addict our kids to keep them watching more.

00:03:42.400 And it's a great movie.

00:03:44.180 Heidi and I sat down with our girls, and we made them both watch it.

00:03:46.880 They were kind of bored.

00:03:47.940 They didn't think it was very interesting.

00:03:49.080 But we wanted them to at least hear and understand what it is that big tech is targeting them with

00:03:58.240 so they can understand what's going on.

00:04:01.900 And what is infuriating is big tech.

00:04:05.680 They're printing money, and they give lip service,

00:04:09.140 but yet they are not doing nearly enough to protect children online.

00:04:13.180 Let's talk about part of this exploitation and child exploitation.

00:04:19.080 You know that bad actors are going to do it,

00:04:21.260 but the most shocking part is how this is allowed on social media.

00:04:25.840 And let's start with Facebook.

00:04:27.460 You had a moment where you and Mark Zuckerberg had a back and forth,

00:04:31.920 and I want to play it for people and listen to,

00:04:35.160 and part of this, Senator, explain these warning signs,

00:04:38.680 because people aren't going to be able to see the posters that you held up.

00:04:41.200 Explain what you were showing and how these warnings worked,

00:04:44.340 and then to put it in context.

00:04:46.100 Well, so the Wall Street Journal last year did an expose about how Facebook was assisting pedophiles,

00:04:55.140 assisting pedophiles in, number one, targeting children,

00:04:59.720 but number two, finding child pornography online.

00:05:03.400 And they had a warning screen.

00:05:05.600 So if you typed in a search that was designed to pull up child pornography,

00:05:10.740 they would have a warning screen that would pop up that says the search you put in

00:05:16.880 is likely to produce images of child pornography, which is a crime.

00:05:22.240 You can be prosecuted for it.

00:05:24.220 And then it gave you two links.

00:05:26.780 Do you want resources for help,

00:05:28.920 or do you want to proceed to your search request,

00:05:32.680 to see the child porn you're searching for?

00:05:35.460 And so I asked Mark Zuckerberg why on earth they were doing that. 0.86

00:05:39.960 Here, give a listen.

00:05:41.100 Instagram also displayed the following warning screen

00:05:44.080 to individuals who were searching for child abuse material.

00:05:49.520 These results may contain images of child sexual abuse.

00:05:54.100 And then you gave users two choices.

00:05:56.500 Get resources or see results anyway.

00:06:01.300 Mr. Zuckerberg, what the hell were you thinking?

00:06:03.240 All right, Senator, the basic science behind that

00:06:07.760 is that when people are searching for something that is problematic,

00:06:12.540 it's often helpful to, rather than just blocking it,

00:06:16.140 to help direct them towards something that could be helpful for getting them to get help.

00:06:21.280 I understand get resources.

00:06:23.540 In what sane universe is there a link for see results anyway?

00:06:28.080 Well, because we might be wrong.

00:06:29.260 We try to trigger this warning, or we tried to,

00:06:33.500 when we think that there's any chance that the results might be wrong.

00:06:37.080 Okay, you might be wrong.

00:06:38.160 Let me ask you, how many times was this warning screen displayed?

00:06:41.680 I don't know, but the...

00:06:42.820 You don't know. Why don't you know?

00:06:45.080 I don't know the answer to that off the top of my head.

00:06:47.420 I don't know the answer to that off the top of my head.

00:06:49.920 You also had a follow-up question there right after that, Senator,

00:06:53.200 where you looked at him and you said,

00:06:54.780 of the people that got the warning,

00:06:56.760 how many of those people, those child predators, clicked on see it anyway?

00:07:02.000 And he's like, I don't know if we have that data. Really?

00:07:05.540 Well, and look, what is important, and what I followed up right after that,

00:07:09.400 is I pointed out that a year ago,

00:07:11.400 I asked Facebook in writing that question,

00:07:14.020 and they refused to answer.

00:07:15.680 So there's a reason I asked him there.

00:07:17.200 I expected him to say, I don't know.

00:07:18.800 But the point is, they don't know because they don't want to know.

00:07:21.560 And more importantly, they don't want anyone else to know.

00:07:25.000 And so they've been stonewalling Congress.

00:07:28.240 And further, I asked him a very simple question.

00:07:30.980 Look, if someone searches for child porn,

00:07:34.760 searches for images of little children being sexually abused,

00:07:38.900 I asked him, what does Facebook do with that?

00:07:41.900 Do you report the guy?

00:07:44.320 Do you look into the children who are in the images

00:07:47.880 to see if they need help?

00:07:48.960 Do you do anything?

00:07:49.640 Do you think he refused to answer any of that?

00:07:53.180 Here, play the next exchange.

00:07:55.420 Well, you know what, Mr. Zuckerberg,

00:07:56.740 it's interesting you say you don't know it off the top of your head,

00:07:59.040 because I asked it in June of 2023 in an oversight letter,

00:08:04.500 and your company refused to answer.

00:08:06.800 Will you commit right now to within five days

00:08:09.780 answering this question for this committee?

00:08:12.100 We'll follow up on that.

00:08:13.180 Is that a yes?

00:08:14.340 Not a we'll follow up.

00:08:15.460 I know how lawyers write statements saying we're not going to answer.

00:08:18.380 Will you tell us how many times this warning screen was displayed?

00:08:21.940 Yes or no?

00:08:23.280 Senator, I'll personally look into it.

00:08:24.980 I'm not sure if we have.

00:08:25.620 Okay, so you're refusing to answer that.

00:08:27.480 Let me ask you this.

00:08:28.560 How many times did an Instagram user who got this warning

00:08:32.240 that you're seeing images of child sexual abuse,

00:08:35.720 how many times did that user click on,

00:08:37.900 see results anyway?

00:08:38.940 I want to see that.

00:08:39.880 Senator, I'm not sure if we stored that,

00:08:42.740 but I'll personally look into this and we'll follow up after.

00:08:45.060 And what follow up did Instagram do

00:08:48.240 when you have a potential pedophile clicking on, 0.99

00:08:53.640 I'd like to see child porn. 0.96

00:08:55.620 What did you do next when that happened? 0.74

00:08:58.400 Senator, I think that an important piece of context here

00:09:01.680 is that any context that we think is child sexual abuse.

00:09:04.160 Mr. Zuckerberg, that's called a question.

00:09:06.100 What did you do next when someone clicked?

00:09:11.200 You may be getting child sexual abuse images

00:09:15.280 and they click, see results anyway.

00:09:17.880 What was your next step?

00:09:19.480 You said you might be wrong.

00:09:21.240 Did anyone examine, was it in fact,

00:09:23.580 child sexual abuse material?

00:09:24.900 Did anyone report that user?

00:09:26.720 Did anyone go and try to protect that child?

00:09:29.160 What did you do next?

00:09:31.860 Senator, we take down anything that we think

00:09:34.100 is sexual abuse material on the service and we do.

00:09:36.940 Did anyone verify whether it was in fact

00:09:38.760 child sexual abuse material?

00:09:41.720 Senator, I don't know if every single search result

00:09:44.120 we're following up on, but across the board.

00:09:45.300 Did you report the people who wanted it?

00:09:47.080 Senator, do you want me to answer your question?

00:09:48.340 I want you to answer the question I'm asking.

00:09:50.060 Did you report the people who clicked, see results anyway?

00:09:54.920 That's probably one of the factors that we use in reporting.

00:09:57.840 And in general, and we've reported more people

00:10:00.660 and done more reports like this to NCMEC,

00:10:02.760 the National Center of Missing Exploded Children,

00:10:05.080 than any other company in the industry.

00:10:06.860 We proactively go out of our way across our services to do this

00:10:09.960 and have made, I think it's more than 26 million reports,

00:10:13.620 which is more than the whole rest of the industry combined.

00:10:16.600 So I think that the allegation that we-

00:10:19.680 Mr. Zuckerberg, your company and every social media company

00:10:21.640 needs to do much more to protect children.

00:10:24.040 By the way, the question I would love to know, Senator, is this.

00:10:26.740 Yeah, you may have reported more.

00:10:28.840 You're also bigger than all the other ones.

00:10:30.900 So how much sexual exploitation of children 0.84

00:10:34.300 has happened because of your platform?

00:10:37.780 Well, and understand the Wall Street Journal expose

00:10:40.820 that I was asking about demonstrated how on Instagram,

00:10:44.140 they had hashtags that pedophiles could use

00:10:48.520 to find children and to find child porn.

00:10:51.800 And so their algorithms were actively assisting pedophiles in doing this.

00:10:57.080 By the way, Instagram no longer has this screen of see results anyway.

00:11:02.140 You know when they took it down?

00:11:03.400 When?

00:11:04.180 After the Wall Street Journal reported on what they were doing.

00:11:06.900 So it was only when they got caught that they realized,

00:11:09.800 yeah, maybe we shouldn't be aiding and abetting children being abused.

00:11:14.640 That was the only time they took it down.

00:11:17.180 But they're still not affirmatively acting to protect kids the way they should.

00:11:22.980 One thing I do know about these companies,

00:11:24.900 they have no problem trying to use these warnings to silence conservatives.

00:11:30.340 How do I know this?

00:11:31.220 Because we put a picture up of the pictures that were put in front of Congress of Hunter Biden.

00:11:35.920 They were all blurred out.

00:11:37.500 And for six months, we lost the ability to promote and or reach and or be found by people on Instagram and on Facebook.

00:11:47.120 So and there was hundreds of conservatives that that happened to

00:11:51.140 because they were putting out information about Hunter Biden that they didn't like.

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00:13:28.920 Senator, I also want to talk about the other CEOs that were there.

00:13:32.180 And another big part of this was TikTok.

00:13:34.520 And people may not understand TikTok the same way they do Facebook.

00:13:38.680 Explain a little bit of the concerns around TikTok.

00:13:42.240 And it's actually national security concerns as well.

00:13:45.460 Yeah.

00:13:45.800 So understand, in the United States, there are roughly 160 million people that use TikTok.

00:13:52.420 So roughly half, roughly 50% of the population of the United States of America is on TikTok.

00:14:00.260 There are over a billion users nationwide.

00:14:02.500 But in the United States, it's about 160 million.

00:14:06.200 Where TikTok is particularly powerful is among kids, is among young people, is among preteens, is among teenagers, is among college kids.

00:14:18.740 TikTok is ubiquitous.

00:14:21.920 It is universal among 6th graders and 7th graders, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th graders.

00:14:27.860 That is their target audience.

00:14:29.760 And understand also that TikTok is wholly owned by a company called ByteDance.

00:14:34.660 ByteDance is a Chinese company.

00:14:36.960 And under the rules of China, the Chinese government has the power to monitor everything that is on TikTok.

00:14:43.800 So, look, all of the social media companies are responsible for very significant damage.

00:14:49.680 But TikTok is a qualitatively different damage because none of the other major companies are Chinese companies that the Chinese communist government has the power to engage in espionage, to engage in spying, and to engage in pushing propaganda.

00:15:07.900 And so the CEO of TikTok was there, and I took the opportunity to ask him about this as well.

00:15:15.740 Give a listen to that exchange.

00:15:18.280 In the next couple of minutes I have, I want to turn to you.

00:15:21.720 Are you familiar with China's 2017 national intelligence law, which states, quote,

00:15:26.720 all organizations and citizens shall support, assist, and cooperate with national intelligence efforts in accordance with the law

00:15:33.360 and shall protect national intelligence work secrets they are aware of?

00:15:38.860 Yes, I'm familiar with this.

00:15:41.000 TikTok is owned by ByteDance.

00:15:42.740 Is ByteDance subject to the law?

00:15:44.240 For the Chinese businesses that ByteDance owns, yes, it will be subject to this.

00:15:49.340 But TikTok is not available in mainland China.

00:15:52.240 And, Senator, as we talked about in your office, we built Project Texas to put this out of reach.

00:15:56.400 So ByteDance is subject to the law.

00:15:59.520 Now, under this law, which says, shall protect national intelligence work secrets they are aware of,

00:16:06.080 it compels people subject to the law to lie, to protect those secrets.

00:16:12.920 Is that correct?

00:16:14.780 I cannot comment on that.

00:16:17.360 What I said again is that we have moved the data to reach the data.

00:16:19.240 Because you have to protect those secrets?

00:16:21.160 No, Senator, TikTok is not available in mainland China.

00:16:23.980 We have moved the data into an American cloud infrastructure.

00:16:26.160 But TikTok is controlled by ByteDance, which is subject to this law.

00:16:30.340 Now, you said earlier, you said, and I wrote this down,

00:16:34.360 we have not been asked for any data by the Chinese government, and we have never provided it.

00:16:38.980 I'm going to tell you, and I told this when you and I met last week in my office, I do not believe you.

00:16:44.240 And I'll tell you, the American people don't either.

00:16:46.640 If you look at what is on TikTok in China, you are promoting to kids science and math videos, educational videos,

00:16:56.240 and you limit the amount of time kids can be on TikTok.

00:16:59.080 In the United States, you are promoting to kids self-harm videos and anti-Israel propaganda.

00:17:07.880 Why is there such a dramatic difference?

00:17:11.800 Senator, that is just not accurate.

00:17:14.260 There is a lot of...

00:17:14.900 There's not a difference between what kids see in China and what kids see here?

00:17:18.180 Senator, TikTok is not available in China.

00:17:20.000 It's a separate experience there.

00:17:21.220 What I'm saying is...

00:17:22.000 But you have a company that is essentially the same,

00:17:25.020 except it promotes beneficial materials instead of harmful materials.

00:17:29.440 That is not true.

00:17:30.320 We have a lot of science and math content here on TikTok.

00:17:32.780 There's so much of it that created the STEM feed for 100 billion views.

00:17:37.100 Let me point to this, Mr. Chu.

00:17:38.640 There was a report recently that compared hashtags on Instagram to hashtags on TikTok.

00:17:47.340 And what trended.

00:17:48.360 And the differences were striking.

00:17:50.560 So, for something like hashtag Taylor Swift or hashtag Trump,

00:17:55.800 researchers found roughly two Instagram posts for everyone on TikTok.

00:17:59.920 That's not a dramatic difference.

00:18:01.400 That difference jumps to 8 to 1 for the hashtag Uyghur.

00:18:08.440 And it jumps to 30 to 1 for the hashtag Tibet.

00:18:12.560 And it jumps to 57 to 1 to the hashtag Tiananmen Square.

00:18:17.720 And it jumps to 174 to 1 for the hashtag Hong Kong protest.

00:18:24.520 Why is it that on Instagram people can put up a hashtag Hong Kong protest 174 times compared to TikTok?

00:18:35.240 What censorship is TikTok doing at the request of the Chinese government?

00:18:40.540 None.

00:18:41.400 Senator, that analysis is flawed.

00:18:43.520 The analysis is flawed.

00:18:44.600 It's been debunked by other external sources like the Cato Institute.

00:18:48.100 Fundamentally, a few things happen here.

00:18:49.880 Not all videos carry hashtags.

00:18:51.760 That's the first thing.

00:18:52.920 The second thing is that you cannot selectively choose a few words within a certain time period.

00:18:56.720 Why the difference between Taylor Swift and Tiananmen Square?

00:18:59.100 What happened at Tiananmen Square?

00:19:01.000 Senator, there was massive protests during that time.

00:19:06.060 But what I'm trying to say is our users can freely come and post this content.

00:19:09.280 Why would there be no difference on Taylor Swift or a minimal difference and a massive difference on Tiananmen Square or Hong Kong?

00:19:14.860 Senator, could you wrap up, please?

00:19:16.480 Senator, our algorithm does not suppress any content simply based on it.

00:19:20.280 To answer that question, why is there a difference?

00:19:22.580 Like I said, I think this analysis is flawed.

00:19:24.640 You're selectively choosing some words over some periods.

00:19:27.360 We haven't been around as long as others.

00:19:28.700 There is an obvious difference.

00:19:30.900 174 to 1 for Hong Kong compared to Taylor Swift.

00:19:34.880 I mean, Senator, you listen to that. 0.69

00:19:36.520 I just think the guy's a flat-out liar and nothing but a spokesman for the CCP. 0.78

00:19:41.160 Am I wrong? 0.81

00:19:42.240 Look, he effectively reports to the CCP.

00:19:45.660 By the way, at the end, that was Dick Dermott, the Democrat chairman,

00:19:48.800 and gaveling in and trying to protect TikTok, trying to protect Communist China.

00:19:53.020 He didn't like that line of questioning.

00:19:54.560 He wanted it to stop.

00:19:55.840 By the way, when Democrats were questioning, he let him go on and on and on.

00:19:58.980 But Durbin wanted to jump in and stop that line of questioning.

00:20:01.880 Listen, the numbers are obvious on their faces.

00:20:05.900 So understand the differential in those hashtags.

00:20:08.380 So this was a study that compared different trending hashtags on Instagram,

00:20:13.140 which a lot of young people use, and on TikTok,

00:20:16.860 which, again, a ton of young people use.

00:20:20.180 And it found for things like Taylor Swift,

00:20:23.120 which is something people will post about a lot,

00:20:26.080 particularly young people, they're big fans of Taylor Swift,

00:20:28.860 that it was roughly two to one.

00:20:31.140 So basically, there were two Instagram posts for every one TikTok post.

00:20:35.020 So, look, that's some differential,

00:20:37.120 but it's not like a jarring differential.

00:20:38.980 As I went through, the differential became massively different with messages

00:20:44.940 that the Chinese Communist government doesn't like.

00:20:47.680 And the most striking was about Hong Kong,

00:20:52.080 where the differential was 174 to one.

00:20:57.080 So, in other words, people could post about it on Instagram 174 times

00:21:03.220 for every single time it appeared on TikTok.

00:21:06.060 Now, you heard all of his dodges.

00:21:09.300 Well, that's cherry-picking words.

00:21:11.620 I don't care.

00:21:12.920 Yeah, no, it's not.

00:21:13.960 It's not searching for how frequently the word asparagus trends.

00:21:18.040 It's actually searching for words

00:21:19.900 that the Communist Chinese government does not want people to know about.

00:21:25.080 And miraculously, and it's not really miraculous,

00:21:29.440 the words that they most want people not to know about

00:21:33.020 are the words that you are least allowed to see on TikTok.

00:21:37.300 And mind you, the CEO under oath is testifying,

00:21:41.860 well, no, no, no, we don't share anything with the Chinese Communist government,

00:21:45.460 but I laid out how the law in China is,

00:21:48.860 even if they shared everything with the government,

00:21:51.040 they are required under the law to lie about it.

00:21:54.500 So, he would have to say that regardless of what the facts are.

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00:22:29.580 Do you believe that there is going to be any type of new legislation

00:22:33.000 and or oversight that will be impactful to stop this?

00:22:35.560 I mean, obviously, showing the public

00:22:37.680 and letting parents and grandparents be aware

00:22:40.020 of the real dangers here of exploitation

00:22:43.060 and blackmail and human trafficking and sex trafficking

00:22:46.740 are extremely important.

00:22:48.800 But what about oversight?

00:22:50.720 Well, I do think there is growing bipartisan interest

00:22:54.300 in doing more to protect kids online.

00:22:57.880 And in the Senate Judiciary Committee, on which I serve,

00:23:00.980 five different bills have passed out of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

00:23:04.140 I supported all five of them.

00:23:05.480 They're all designed to enhance the protection for kids online.

00:23:08.760 They passed with big bipartisan support.

00:23:12.840 But to date, none of them have gotten a vote on the Senate floor.

00:23:17.400 In the Senate Commerce Committee, as you know,

00:23:20.100 I am the ranking member on the Senate Commerce Committee,

00:23:22.700 which means I'm the senior Republican

00:23:24.080 on the Senate Commerce Committee.

00:23:25.540 We have passed several bills out of the Senate Commerce Committee

00:23:28.940 aimed at the same thing, at protecting kids online.

00:23:31.400 And again, they passed with overwhelming bipartisan support.

00:23:37.580 None has gotten a vote on the Senate floor.

00:23:41.640 And I don't think it is coincidental

00:23:44.580 that big tech are massive financial supporters of Democrats.

00:23:51.380 In the 2016 election, do you know who the employer was

00:23:55.660 whose employees gave the most money to Hillary Clinton in 2016?

00:23:59.080 I'm going to guess it was either, at the time, Twitter, or it was Facebook.

00:24:04.220 Nope, neither one. Google.

00:24:05.800 Wow.

00:24:07.020 Google was the number one supporter of Hillary Clinton in 2016.

00:24:10.700 If you look at, do you know who the number one individual donors

00:24:14.140 to Democrat causes was in 2020, the Biden election year?

00:24:18.920 Who was it?

00:24:20.380 Mark Zuckerberg, the person I was questioning.

00:24:23.720 So, and to give you a sort of order of magnitude,

00:24:26.820 so in the 2020 cycle, the top Republican donor in the country

00:24:31.200 was Sheldon Adelson.

00:24:33.000 Sheldon Adelson owned casinos.

00:24:35.140 I knew Sheldon very well.

00:24:36.320 He was a good friend.

00:24:37.160 Sadly, Sheldon passed away.

00:24:39.060 But Sheldon gave in 2020 roughly $100 million

00:24:42.120 supporting Republicans.

00:24:45.960 Biggest in the country.

00:24:47.040 He gave $100 million.

00:24:47.940 How much do you think Mark Zuckerberg gave?

00:24:49.880 Same election cycle.

00:24:51.540 I'm going to guess a lot more than that

00:24:52.980 based on the way that you teed that up.

00:24:54.620 $400 million.

00:24:56.760 Good grief.

00:24:58.040 $400 million.

00:24:59.660 And understand what Zuckerberg did.

00:25:01.260 He did something that were called Zuck Bucks.

00:25:03.340 He paid $400 million to literally take over the election machinery,

00:25:11.020 the apparatus, in big blue cities, in purple states.

00:25:16.080 It was designed to dramatically increase Democrat turnout

00:25:21.540 to give the victory to Joe Biden.

00:25:24.980 And there is a very real case to be made

00:25:28.460 that Joe Biden is president today because of Mark Zuckerberg,

00:25:33.300 that without Zuckerberg's $400 million,

00:25:36.120 Donald Trump would be in the White House.

00:25:39.060 And yet...

00:25:40.080 Was he also buying the guarantee of no oversight

00:25:44.340 or fake oversight so he could maximize profits

00:25:47.440 doing some of the things that you exposed today?

00:25:50.680 Look, I think that is an obvious inference.

00:25:54.720 And it's very reasonable to ask,

00:25:57.340 why will Chuck Schumer not bring any of these bills

00:25:59.760 to the Senate floor?

00:26:00.980 And I think the answer is,

00:26:02.380 if you've got the major funders of the Democrat Party there,

00:26:05.720 they don't want to provide oversight.

00:26:08.040 You've got Democrats who will posture in hearing.

00:26:11.200 So we had lots of Democrats make lots of noise

00:26:13.860 asking what seemed to be tough questions.

00:26:16.620 Although actually, oddly enough,

00:26:18.220 this was a strange hearing in that many of the senators,

00:26:22.180 most of the Democrats, didn't ask questions.

00:26:26.100 Like we all had seven minutes in our rounds.

00:26:29.160 Most of the Democrats just gave a seven-minute speech.

00:26:31.800 And they gave a seven-minute speech

00:26:32.940 about how kids are really nice and I like kids

00:26:35.140 and, you know, puppy dogs are cool too

00:26:37.200 and rainbows are okay.

00:26:39.960 But they didn't actually ask very many questions

00:26:43.260 of the witnesses, which is just weird.

00:26:45.880 So this is almost, in essence,

00:26:47.440 a dog and pony show for the left.

00:26:48.920 Hey, we're going to bring you in.

00:26:49.920 We're going to maybe let them rough you up a little bit. 1.00

00:26:52.200 But don't worry.

00:26:52.880 There'll be no legislation

00:26:54.240 that's going to really change anything.

00:26:55.500 So you're good.

00:26:56.840 Well, look, we'll see.

00:26:57.980 As I said, judiciary has passed five bills.

00:27:00.180 Commerce has passed several bills.

00:27:01.560 All of them are hitting a roadblock with Charles Schumer.

00:27:05.600 And Schumer, I think, feels no pressure to do anything.

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00:28:21.580 I want to move also to another important issue,

00:28:24.460 and this is one that's starting to pick up some steam here.

00:28:27.880 It deals with liquid natural gas

00:28:29.960 and these ports that have basically been stopped

00:28:34.340 out of nowhere,

00:28:35.740 and the alibi for the Biden White House is

00:28:38.840 we met, shocking enough,

00:28:40.340 with a 25-year-old TikToker

00:28:42.780 that really explained to us

00:28:44.880 the environmental problems.

00:28:46.280 So we're going to study

00:28:47.400 the environmental problems

00:28:49.020 with liquefied natural gas,

00:28:50.980 and it may take over a year.

00:28:52.740 It will certainly be after the election.

00:28:55.300 If we were to turn these back on,

00:28:57.340 it's going to have a massive impact on Texas.

00:29:00.160 But the timing of it, Senator,

00:29:01.560 is the part that's so suspect.

00:29:03.560 It was right after

00:29:04.760 Texas and the Supreme Court ruling came down

00:29:08.020 that said that,

00:29:09.740 hey, the federal government

00:29:10.660 can get through your razor wire,

00:29:12.400 the ruling also,

00:29:13.380 as we talked about extensively on the show,

00:29:15.260 it didn't say you had to stop

00:29:16.460 putting down razor wire,

00:29:17.380 and it didn't say to Texas

00:29:18.280 you have to pick it up.

00:29:19.260 And it was almost like

00:29:20.880 the White House said,

00:29:22.080 okay, well,

00:29:22.760 if you're going to mess with us,

00:29:24.320 and then 25 other governors

00:29:26.080 got involved and said,

00:29:27.300 hey, we're going to send troopers,

00:29:29.340 state troopers,

00:29:30.660 and our guardsmen,

00:29:31.900 national guardsmen,

00:29:32.780 to help in Texas,

00:29:34.960 was it a shot across about Texas

00:29:36.800 with this out-of-nowhere plan of theirs

00:29:38.760 that was like, hey,

00:29:40.000 we're basically going to put sanctions

00:29:41.200 on you guys

00:29:41.920 because you need to get in line

00:29:43.200 and any other state that's helping you,

00:29:44.620 you could be next.

00:29:46.340 Yes, yes, and yes.

00:29:47.800 So, what happened was last week,

00:29:50.700 the Biden administration announced

00:29:52.720 that it was halting

00:29:54.040 new permits

00:29:55.680 for the export of liquid natural gas

00:29:58.460 and for export terminal projects

00:30:00.260 to export liquid natural gas.

00:30:02.400 Now, what does that mean?

00:30:03.860 It means three things.

00:30:04.920 Number one,

00:30:05.740 what Joe Biden did

00:30:06.740 is effectively sanctioned

00:30:08.780 the state of Texas.

00:30:09.560 This is declaring war on Texas,

00:30:11.380 and I think you're exactly right.

00:30:13.020 He did it because he's pissed off

00:30:14.640 that Texas is standing up

00:30:16.380 to the Biden administration

00:30:17.700 on the border,

00:30:18.480 is fighting to secure the border,

00:30:20.180 and he said,

00:30:20.700 all right,

00:30:21.060 if you're going to stand up

00:30:22.120 and fight us, 0.99

00:30:22.960 we're going to attack you 1.00

00:30:24.280 and try to destroy jobs 0.98

00:30:25.540 in the state of Texas.

00:30:26.360 This was very deliberate,

00:30:27.880 a sanction on the great state of Texas.

00:30:29.800 Number two,

00:30:30.800 this is a fine

00:30:32.160 on American families.

00:30:33.660 Joe Biden said,

00:30:34.960 hardworking families,

00:30:36.980 I don't care about Americans. 1.00

00:30:38.400 I'm going to punish you

00:30:40.080 by driving up energy costs.

00:30:42.860 And number three,

00:30:44.620 this announcement

00:30:45.620 is a subsidy

00:30:46.980 for Vladimir Putin.

00:30:48.940 Understand,

00:30:49.640 this announcement

00:30:50.300 is Joe Biden saying,

00:30:52.460 I am going to give

00:30:53.780 billions of dollars

00:30:55.220 to Putin and Russia.

00:30:56.460 Why?

00:30:57.360 Because, look,

00:30:59.020 our allies,

00:30:59.940 Europe,

00:31:00.780 Asia,

00:31:01.160 they need

00:31:03.080 natural gas.

00:31:04.760 Natural gas,

00:31:05.840 it's produced

00:31:06.540 in a gaseous form,

00:31:08.060 and then it's liquefied

00:31:10.360 to be transported

00:31:11.420 typically on ships.

00:31:13.360 Natural gas

00:31:14.420 is incredibly important

00:31:16.440 for heating,

00:31:17.360 for power,

00:31:18.460 for all of the world.

00:31:20.620 And Europe imports

00:31:22.240 a ton of natural gas.

00:31:23.860 Asia imports

00:31:24.660 a ton of natural gas.

00:31:26.160 The largest producer

00:31:27.480 of natural gas

00:31:28.300 in the world

00:31:28.880 is the United States

00:31:30.520 of America.

00:31:31.640 Now,

00:31:32.760 Russia is a massive 0.99

00:31:34.420 producer of natural gas

00:31:35.940 as well.

00:31:37.100 When Joe Biden says,

00:31:39.040 we're going to halt

00:31:39.940 new export terminals

00:31:41.920 for natural gas,

00:31:42.920 he is handing a gift

00:31:44.540 to Vladimir Putin

00:31:46.100 because

00:31:46.580 the Europeans

00:31:48.220 are not going to suddenly

00:31:49.200 not heat their homes.

00:31:50.440 They're not going to say,

00:31:51.040 okay,

00:31:51.320 we're going to freeze to death

00:31:52.640 because Joe Biden's mad.

00:31:55.220 No,

00:31:56.160 they're going to get

00:31:57.220 the gas somewhere.

00:31:58.740 And if they don't get it

00:31:59.880 from the U.S.,

00:32:00.500 they're much,

00:32:01.160 much more likely

00:32:01.780 to get it from Russia.

00:32:02.700 So this is a gift

00:32:03.720 to Russia.

00:32:05.140 And here's the final

00:32:06.200 amazing thing.

00:32:06.980 You know what this decision

00:32:07.800 also does?

00:32:09.080 What is that?

00:32:10.220 Hurts the environment.

00:32:12.960 Explain it.

00:32:13.860 Explain it

00:32:14.420 because this is the ammo

00:32:15.760 that everybody listening needs.

00:32:17.380 It is critically important

00:32:18.720 and I'll say twofold.

00:32:19.820 Number one,

00:32:21.440 U.S. natural gas

00:32:22.720 is produced

00:32:24.560 much,

00:32:25.440 much more cleanly

00:32:26.760 than natural gas

00:32:29.720 virtually anywhere else

00:32:30.680 on Earth.

00:32:31.660 Much,

00:32:32.240 much more cleanly

00:32:33.060 than Russian natural gas.

00:32:34.640 So if you want

00:32:35.540 less pollution in the air,

00:32:37.700 if you want less carbon

00:32:38.560 in the air,

00:32:39.140 you want to consume

00:32:40.440 U.S. natural gas

00:32:41.720 because we have

00:32:42.660 significant environmental

00:32:44.160 protections on how

00:32:45.080 we produce it here.

00:32:46.680 There they don't.

00:32:47.860 So what Joe Biden

00:32:48.880 is saying is,

00:32:49.920 hey,

00:32:50.160 let's rely more

00:32:51.060 on the Russians.

00:32:51.600 Let's have them produce 0.73

00:32:52.540 more gas.

00:32:53.340 Let's have them pollute 0.99

00:32:54.200 the environment even more.

00:32:55.320 And by the way,

00:32:56.380 if you notice the atmosphere,

00:32:57.860 it doesn't stop

00:32:58.860 a country's border.

00:33:00.340 Like the atmosphere

00:33:01.100 goes all around the planet.

00:33:03.140 So do you know

00:33:03.720 who the biggest polluter

00:33:04.560 on the face of the planet is?

00:33:06.720 I'm going to go

00:33:07.520 with either China

00:33:08.480 or Russia.

00:33:09.640 That's my best guess

00:33:10.660 when it comes to this.

00:33:11.820 China by a huge 0.92

00:33:13.260 order of magnitude.

00:33:14.300 China is massively 0.99

00:33:15.400 the biggest polluter

00:33:17.120 on the face of the planet.

00:33:18.280 China is also building

00:33:19.600 more coal plants

00:33:22.040 right now

00:33:22.900 than the United States

00:33:25.360 has in the entirety

00:33:26.260 of our country.

00:33:26.820 They're building

00:33:27.560 new coal plants

00:33:28.860 that exceed

00:33:29.520 the total coal plants

00:33:30.660 in America.

00:33:31.340 Now,

00:33:32.040 why does that matter?

00:33:34.060 If you care about

00:33:35.080 the environment,

00:33:35.720 if you care about pollution,

00:33:36.680 if you care about carbon,

00:33:38.100 which country

00:33:39.640 year after year

00:33:40.820 after year

00:33:41.440 has led the world

00:33:42.480 in reduction

00:33:43.580 of carbon emissions?

00:33:46.060 America.

00:33:46.580 Why?

00:33:48.400 Because,

00:33:48.900 well,

00:33:49.080 I think when we have

00:33:50.020 tons of regulation

00:33:50.800 to we actually care

00:33:51.540 about the environment.

00:33:54.060 Both true,

00:33:55.020 but that's not

00:33:55.600 neither of those are why.

00:33:57.220 What is it then?

00:33:58.560 The biggest reason

00:34:00.300 is the wide scale

00:34:01.840 substitution

00:34:02.680 of natural gas

00:34:04.940 for coal

00:34:06.140 and electricity production.

00:34:07.720 So you want to talk

00:34:08.700 about what really

00:34:09.880 pollutes the hell

00:34:10.760 out of the environment.

00:34:11.800 It's burning coal

00:34:13.080 in power plants

00:34:14.200 to turn on electricity.

00:34:15.600 You know,

00:34:16.220 it's interesting.

00:34:17.200 A lot of liberals,

00:34:17.980 they think,

00:34:18.640 you know,

00:34:18.940 they think,

00:34:19.360 oh,

00:34:19.460 I've got an electric car.

00:34:20.540 I've got a fancy electric car.

00:34:22.120 Isn't that great?

00:34:22.800 And it never occurs to them,

00:34:24.220 where does that electricity

00:34:25.340 come from?

00:34:25.920 They're like,

00:34:26.220 well,

00:34:26.360 it comes from the wall.

00:34:27.240 I plug it in

00:34:27.780 and it just magically

00:34:28.600 spews from the wall.

00:34:30.160 Well,

00:34:30.720 no,

00:34:31.680 that electricity

00:34:32.480 has to be generated.

00:34:33.560 It has to be generated

00:34:34.400 in a power plant.

00:34:35.620 Now,

00:34:35.780 how is it generated?

00:34:37.000 For years,

00:34:38.640 the predominant method

00:34:39.860 of generating electricity

00:34:41.180 was burning coal.

00:34:43.100 The United States

00:34:43.520 has a ton of coal.

00:34:44.380 We're essentially

00:34:45.640 the Saudi Arabia of coal.

00:34:47.500 The problem is

00:34:48.700 when you burn coal,

00:34:50.420 it pollutes a lot

00:34:52.300 and it emits

00:34:53.640 a ton of carbon.

00:34:55.280 Now,

00:34:55.640 what we have seen

00:34:56.620 in the last decade

00:34:57.700 because of the shale revolution,

00:34:59.920 so the shale revolution,

00:35:01.440 shale,

00:35:02.240 and it's also

00:35:03.140 the fracking revolution,

00:35:04.280 we have unlocked

00:35:05.580 massive reserves

00:35:06.660 of natural gas

00:35:07.560 and what that has done

00:35:09.140 in the United States

00:35:10.180 is we have seen

00:35:12.060 tons of coal

00:35:15.360 electricity plants

00:35:17.040 shutting down

00:35:18.080 and being replaced

00:35:20.360 with natural gas

00:35:21.700 electricity plants.

00:35:23.240 Why does that matter?

00:35:24.440 Because a natural gas

00:35:26.060 electricity plant

00:35:27.120 emits much,

00:35:28.760 much,

00:35:29.160 much less pollution

00:35:30.640 than a coal plant

00:35:32.520 and it emits

00:35:33.780 much,

00:35:34.260 much,

00:35:34.540 much less carbon

00:35:35.700 than a coal plant

00:35:37.260 and that is why

00:35:38.940 America leads

00:35:40.340 the world

00:35:40.840 in carbon reductions.

00:35:41.960 At the same time

00:35:43.360 we're doing this,

00:35:44.360 China is building 0.98

00:35:45.680 coal plants

00:35:46.380 like crazy

00:35:47.260 and so when

00:35:48.520 when Joe Biden

00:35:49.540 steps in

00:35:50.160 and says

00:35:50.560 we want to stop

00:35:52.460 America

00:35:53.080 from selling

00:35:53.820 natural gas

00:35:54.660 to the world,

00:35:55.340 he is a saying

00:35:57.360 buy your natural gas

00:35:59.180 from Russia,

00:35:59.960 from Iran,

00:36:00.660 from Venezuela,

00:36:01.280 from enemies

00:36:02.360 of America

00:36:02.960 run by dictators

00:36:04.000 who are very dangerous

00:36:05.380 number one

00:36:06.060 but number two

00:36:07.520 he's also saying

00:36:08.640 produce your

00:36:10.100 electricity

00:36:10.920 from coal

00:36:11.840 which pollutes

00:36:12.960 the environment

00:36:13.640 much,

00:36:14.340 much more.

00:36:15.160 Understand

00:36:15.760 if all you cared

00:36:18.040 about was the environment

00:36:19.300 Joe Biden's announcement

00:36:20.580 this past week

00:36:21.560 was horrible

00:36:22.860 for the environment

00:36:23.860 and he did it

00:36:25.140 I think you're

00:36:25.760 exactly right

00:36:26.560 as a petulant

00:36:27.520 attack on Texas

00:36:28.620 he's mad

00:36:29.860 that Texas

00:36:30.400 is fighting

00:36:30.960 to secure

00:36:31.540 the border

00:36:32.040 and he said

00:36:32.920 alright

00:36:33.260 I'm going to

00:36:33.840 destroy jobs

00:36:34.580 in the great

00:36:34.940 state of Texas.

00:36:35.880 Last question

00:36:36.720 on this

00:36:37.280 and I think

00:36:37.860 it's interesting

00:36:38.520 to see

00:36:38.880 that this

00:36:39.280 could backfire

00:36:40.260 in a big way

00:36:40.980 the Washington

00:36:42.300 Post

00:36:42.760 the liberal

00:36:43.660 hardcore

00:36:44.600 socialist

00:36:45.380 Washington Post

00:36:46.360 put out an

00:36:46.980 opinion piece

00:36:47.600 by the editorial

00:36:48.300 board saying

00:36:48.960 Biden's

00:36:50.020 this is their

00:36:50.280 headline

00:36:50.580 Biden's

00:36:51.220 liquid

00:36:51.460 natural gas

00:36:52.560 decision

00:36:52.980 is a win

00:36:53.880 for political

00:36:55.240 symbolism

00:36:56.100 not

00:36:57.180 the climate

00:36:58.500 they're even

00:37:00.060 calling him out

00:37:01.040 for this was petty

00:37:02.100 and obviously

00:37:02.840 a decision made

00:37:03.600 to hurt Texas

00:37:04.400 and it can cost

00:37:06.040 70,000 Americans

00:37:07.100 or jobs

00:37:07.760 and doing it

00:37:08.880 for these other

00:37:09.460 reasons

00:37:09.840 and by the way

00:37:10.420 saying it's not

00:37:11.240 about the climate

00:37:12.060 no that's exactly

00:37:14.120 right

00:37:14.420 here's what the

00:37:14.960 Washington Post

00:37:15.580 editorial board

00:37:16.380 said quote

00:37:17.000 on Friday

00:37:18.200 however

00:37:18.560 that same

00:37:19.160 Biden

00:37:19.460 administration

00:37:20.120 ordered a

00:37:20.760 de facto

00:37:21.160 halt

00:37:21.600 to the

00:37:22.320 approval

00:37:22.680 of new

00:37:23.060 facilities

00:37:23.500 for exporting

00:37:24.260 the resources

00:37:24.920 to countries

00:37:25.640 with which

00:37:26.740 the United

00:37:27.180 States does

00:37:27.740 not have

00:37:28.120 free trade

00:37:28.560 agreements

00:37:29.020 a category

00:37:30.160 that includes

00:37:31.640 all of

00:37:32.780 Europe

00:37:33.120 so by the way

00:37:33.640 this is also

00:37:34.100 a sanction

00:37:34.520 on Europe

00:37:34.980 it's an

00:37:36.120 election year

00:37:36.840 sop

00:37:37.340 to climate

00:37:38.440 activists

00:37:39.140 that will

00:37:40.200 do much

00:37:40.820 more to

00:37:41.440 unsettle

00:37:42.080 vital US

00:37:43.100 alliances

00:37:43.720 than to

00:37:45.040 save the

00:37:45.420 planet

00:37:45.760 that's a

00:37:47.180 quote from

00:37:47.620 the Washington

00:37:48.240 Post

00:37:48.900 that's how

00:37:50.420 far

00:37:51.120 out of the

00:37:52.940 bounds of

00:37:53.500 reasonableness

00:37:54.080 when you're

00:37:54.700 too left wing

00:37:55.480 for the

00:37:55.780 Washington Post

00:37:56.560 well that's

00:37:57.920 got to be

00:37:58.160 the Biden

00:37:58.480 administration

00:37:59.000 no doubt

00:37:59.620 about it

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - February 02, 2024

Big Tech Exposed for Hurting Kids, plus Biden ATTACKS Texas & Americans by Restricting LNG Exports

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