Verdict with Ted Cruz - Big Tech Still Silencing Conservatives on Social Media plus NPR New CEO Questions 1st Amendment

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00:00:06.160 It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.

00:00:08.420 Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:10.460 And you guys know if you listen to the show regularly

00:00:12.860 that the senator and I do this show around his Senate schedule,

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00:00:29.120 meant that at this point, we still couldn't do the show.

00:00:33.540 Now, here's the good news.

00:00:35.200 We have two conversations that Senator Cruz and I had

00:00:38.140 that deal with big tech and also silencing of conservatives

00:00:41.940 that I'm going to play for you.

00:00:44.580 But this is the part I love about doing this show.

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00:00:57.420 So, now you understand what's going on.

00:01:00.440 Don't worry.

00:01:00.980 We'll have your weekend review for you tomorrow as well.

00:01:05.180 But these are two important topics that I want you to hear about.

00:01:08.640 And there are a lot going on in D.C.,

00:01:11.220 specifically around the issue of big tech

00:01:13.860 and what they're doing to silence conservatives.

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00:03:00.860 Senator, big tech is obviously had a massive influence

00:03:04.800 over public opinion in this country.

00:03:07.120 We saw a recent report that came out

00:03:09.700 just on TikTok, for example,

00:03:11.900 where they were 45 to 1 stories

00:03:14.920 that were pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas over Israel.

00:03:18.600 That's one example of how they've really been able

00:03:21.000 to shape public opinion,

00:03:22.200 especially with young people

00:03:23.280 and the riots and the chaos

00:03:25.240 we're witnessing on college campuses right now.

00:03:27.820 But there's also something else

00:03:29.180 that's happened with big tech.

00:03:30.480 I've been a victim of it.

00:03:31.660 I spoke out against big tech a few years ago

00:03:34.660 at a CPAC convention,

00:03:36.380 and before I landed home,

00:03:39.000 after I spoke out about big tech,

00:03:41.000 specifically Facebook,

00:03:42.540 my accounts were shut down.

00:03:44.880 They have never worked the same way

00:03:47.560 as they did before.

00:03:49.180 The reach has disappeared.

00:03:51.180 I've witnessed it.

00:03:52.640 And many other conservative leaders out there

00:03:55.280 are going through the same things.

00:03:56.980 And it always seems to happen, Senator,

00:03:59.080 right during a big election cycle

00:04:02.400 where the Democrats get a free flow of information out

00:04:05.700 and conservatives get hammered and silenced.

00:04:09.220 Well, that's exactly right.

00:04:10.340 So I started last year as the ranking member

00:04:12.900 on the Senate Committee of Commerce,

00:04:14.360 Science, and Transportation.

00:04:15.960 And from that position as the ranking member,

00:04:18.200 which means the senior Republican on that committee,

00:04:20.340 I launched an investigation

00:04:21.480 into the abuse of power from big tech.

00:04:24.080 And this past week, we put out a major report.

00:04:26.380 The report is entitled

00:04:27.340 Weaponizing Terms of Service,

00:04:29.660 How Online Service Providers Use Broad Policies

00:04:32.560 to Silence Conservatives.

00:04:34.180 Now, there are a lot of instances

00:04:35.720 that we know about that get a lot of publicity.

00:04:38.660 We know, for example, that Twitter,

00:04:40.960 before Elon Musk purchased them,

00:04:43.580 suspended the account of the Babylon Bee

00:04:45.980 for making a joke about a Biden administration official.

00:04:49.460 We know that both Facebook and Twitter

00:04:51.640 suppressed stories about Hunter Biden's laptop

00:04:54.380 before the 2020 election.

00:04:56.480 We know that Facebook removed posts

00:04:59.460 suggesting that COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab,

00:05:04.120 something we talked about at length on this podcast,

00:05:07.320 and a theory that has now been confirmed

00:05:09.480 both by the Federal Department of Energy

00:05:11.120 and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

00:05:12.860 We know that YouTube took down

00:05:16.900 a March 2021 video of a panel discussion

00:05:19.680 with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis,

00:05:21.820 during which he disputed claims

00:05:24.180 that children needed to wear face masks.

00:05:26.720 We know that YouTube also,

00:05:28.920 which is owned by Google,

00:05:30.600 blocked access to a November 2023 episode

00:05:33.720 of this podcast verdict

00:05:35.380 because we were criticizing

00:05:37.580 the corporate media's favorable coverage of Hamas,

00:05:40.540 and YouTube deemed,

00:05:42.500 okay, you must be an adult

00:05:44.080 to see what is on the network news.

00:05:47.380 We also know in 2022,

00:05:49.140 DirecTV dropped One America News Network

00:05:51.680 less than a year after Democrat leaders in Congress

00:05:55.140 sent a letter to the CEO

00:05:56.440 calling on them to stop carrying the network.

00:05:59.180 We also know they did the same thing to Newsmax.

00:06:01.500 Now, I lit DirecTV up,

00:06:03.480 and they ended up bringing Newsmax back.

00:06:05.780 We also know that Intuit,

00:06:08.300 at the direction of its banking partners,

00:06:10.200 refused to provide payment processing

00:06:13.220 and payroll services

00:06:14.360 to gun manufacturers and sellers.

00:06:18.800 And we know that JPMorgan Chase

00:06:20.880 closed the account of the National Committee

00:06:23.860 of Religious Freedom,

00:06:24.980 which was created by former State Department

00:06:27.860 Ambassador-at-Large

00:06:29.000 for International Religious Freedom

00:06:30.520 and former U.S. Senator Sam Brownback.

00:06:32.760 We know that GoFundMe

00:06:34.500 blocked the release of $10 million

00:06:37.260 of donations to the Canadian Truckers Freedom Convoy.

00:06:41.420 We've seen that happen over and over and over again.

00:06:45.480 Well, what this report does

00:06:47.540 is it lays out an entirely new area

00:06:50.240 of discrimination,

00:06:51.740 and it is using web-based products and services,

00:06:55.660 online service providers,

00:06:57.420 to ban conservative organizations

00:06:59.640 from using their technology.

00:07:01.280 And it's going after the infrastructure

00:07:04.060 that is needed to communicate.

00:07:07.000 And in fact,

00:07:07.880 this investigation reveals

00:07:09.580 that online service providers

00:07:11.060 are following a playbook

00:07:13.380 for silencing conservatives

00:07:15.580 that leftist organizations,

00:07:17.380 including the Southern Poverty Law Center,

00:07:20.160 which is wildly left-wing

00:07:21.560 and hates conservatives,

00:07:22.820 and the Anti-Defamation League,

00:07:24.860 the ADL,

00:07:25.520 they together put together

00:07:27.500 this strategy,

00:07:28.360 this playbook,

00:07:29.140 to, quote,

00:07:29.680 remove infrastructure services

00:07:31.760 that conservative organizations

00:07:33.820 need to operate.

00:07:35.040 And so I'm going to describe

00:07:36.340 that playbook

00:07:37.060 and what they're doing in particular.

00:07:39.580 When you look at their playbook

00:07:41.460 and this amount of influence,

00:07:43.840 I mean,

00:07:44.080 this can change and alter

00:07:45.940 certainly an election cycle.

00:07:48.060 It can certainly,

00:07:48.820 I would argue,

00:07:49.600 change a presidential election as well.

00:07:53.220 And that's the reason

00:07:54.800 why they're doing this.

00:07:57.120 When you think about,

00:07:58.440 you know,

00:07:58.760 you've got millions of people

00:07:59.900 that follow you.

00:08:01.180 Facebook,

00:08:01.860 I've got,

00:08:02.340 you know,

00:08:02.700 over a million.

00:08:04.140 But if you turn off

00:08:05.420 and throttle

00:08:06.180 either one of us,

00:08:08.140 then the reach that we have

00:08:09.540 compared to the left,

00:08:11.080 it just disappears.

00:08:12.680 It's the old saying, right?

00:08:14.080 If a big tree falls in the forest

00:08:15.620 and no one's around it,

00:08:16.660 it makes a sound.

00:08:17.920 And that's exactly what they did.

00:08:19.600 But it wasn't just

00:08:20.440 to one or two people.

00:08:21.780 They were doing this

00:08:23.320 to hundreds of top

00:08:25.040 conservative voices

00:08:26.600 that people look to

00:08:29.120 for their opinions,

00:08:31.040 specifically when it comes

00:08:33.000 to election year issues.

00:08:34.740 So that's exactly right.

00:08:36.520 And what this report focuses on

00:08:38.080 is it uses a couple of key examples.

00:08:39.740 It uses,

00:08:40.420 number one,

00:08:40.940 Slack's removal of

00:08:42.620 libs of TikTok's workspace.

00:08:44.660 It focuses on Eventbrite's

00:08:47.080 removal of event pages

00:08:48.680 for events related to Matt Walsh's

00:08:50.620 What is a Woman documentary,

00:08:52.160 as well as an event

00:08:53.640 where Riley Gaines

00:08:54.540 was scheduled to speak.

00:08:55.980 And it focuses on

00:08:57.300 Bonterra's termination

00:08:58.620 of its relationship

00:08:59.560 with Independent Women's Forum,

00:09:01.440 which deprived that organization

00:09:03.460 of major nonprofit

00:09:04.960 technology service provider services.

00:09:07.780 And all of this follows.

00:09:09.480 There was a report

00:09:10.340 that was put out

00:09:11.260 by the Anti-Defamation League,

00:09:13.460 and it is called

00:09:14.820 Bad Gateway,

00:09:16.480 How De-Platforming

00:09:17.720 Affects Extremist Websites.

00:09:20.020 And here's what the ADL recommended.

00:09:23.180 It says,

00:09:23.920 quote,

00:09:24.940 De-Platforming websites,

00:09:26.460 removing infrastructure services

00:09:27.840 they need to operate,

00:09:29.120 such as website hosting,

00:09:30.480 can reduce the spread

00:09:32.240 and reach of extremism

00:09:33.440 and hate online.

00:09:34.820 But when does

00:09:35.740 de-platforming succeed?

00:09:37.140 And here's what ADL explained.

00:09:38.880 Quote,

00:09:39.100 This report shows

00:09:40.500 that de-platforming

00:09:41.300 can decrease the popularity

00:09:42.560 of extremist websites,

00:09:43.800 especially when done

00:09:44.900 without warning.

00:09:47.380 And they go through,

00:09:49.140 we learned four important lessons

00:09:51.140 about how de-platforming

00:09:52.720 affects extremist websites,

00:09:54.320 by which they mean

00:09:55.020 anything right of center.

00:09:56.760 Number one,

00:09:58.020 it can cause popularity rankings

00:10:00.040 to decrease immediately.

00:10:02.980 Number two,

00:10:04.380 it may take users a long time

00:10:06.600 to return to the website.

00:10:07.800 Sometimes the website

00:10:09.880 never regains

00:10:11.620 its previous popularity.

00:10:13.680 Bingo.

00:10:14.440 Number three,

00:10:15.920 unexpected,

00:10:16.860 and unexpected is key,

00:10:17.980 unexpected de-platforming

00:10:19.180 makes it take longer

00:10:20.720 for the website

00:10:22.200 to regain

00:10:23.020 its previous popularity levels.

00:10:25.540 And number four,

00:10:26.620 replicating de-platform services

00:10:28.520 such as discussion forums

00:10:30.700 or live streaming video products

00:10:33.400 on a standalone website

00:10:34.940 presents significant challenges

00:10:37.300 including higher costs

00:10:39.260 and smaller audiences.

00:10:42.060 Now,

00:10:42.620 I want to go into

00:10:43.960 a little bit more.

00:10:44.760 This is what the ADL report,

00:10:46.100 it has an entire section

00:10:47.200 that says,

00:10:47.740 what is de-platforming?

00:10:49.480 And by the way,

00:10:50.480 the corporate media insists

00:10:51.720 when we talk about de-platforming

00:10:53.260 that we're making it up.

00:10:54.380 Well,

00:10:55.260 if you actually read

00:10:56.400 the blueprint,

00:10:57.960 they are very explicit.

00:10:59.340 The left is explicit.

00:11:00.660 They want to silence you.

00:11:01.960 So let me read

00:11:02.480 from this ADL report.

00:11:03.740 Quote,

00:11:03.980 there are three main categories

00:11:06.500 of infrastructure

00:11:07.480 that keep websites running.

00:11:11.020 Domain registrars,

00:11:12.920 web hosting companies,

00:11:14.820 and security protection companies.

00:11:17.200 Number one,

00:11:18.460 the website must be able

00:11:19.580 to register

00:11:20.160 and keep a domain name.

00:11:21.620 A domain name,

00:11:22.560 such as google.com

00:11:23.820 or adl.org,

00:11:25.060 is how visitors find a site.

00:11:27.420 If a website is removed

00:11:29.160 from domain name services,

00:11:30.980 it becomes much more difficult,

00:11:33.340 if not impossible to find.

00:11:35.500 Number two,

00:11:36.940 web hosting companies

00:11:38.220 and content distribution networks

00:11:40.000 provide digital storage space

00:11:42.620 for all the files,

00:11:44.140 pictures,

00:11:44.720 videos,

00:11:45.120 and software

00:11:45.680 that make up

00:11:46.740 the content of a website.

00:11:48.420 When a website

00:11:49.200 loses its hosting provider,

00:11:51.160 the site's content

00:11:52.220 disappears.

00:11:54.660 Losing a CDN,

00:11:56.140 a content distribution network,

00:11:57.820 can cause slow service

00:11:59.460 for high traffic sites.

00:12:00.900 And number three,

00:12:02.380 a third category

00:12:03.400 of infrastructure provider

00:12:04.760 includes companies

00:12:05.660 that protect websites

00:12:07.120 from external security risks,

00:12:09.920 such as distributed denial

00:12:11.420 of service,

00:12:12.120 DDoS attacks.

00:12:13.740 DDoS attacks flood a website

00:12:15.760 with fake traffic

00:12:17.640 to overwhelm it,

00:12:19.480 rendering it unable

00:12:20.920 to answer normal user requests.

00:12:23.100 If an infrastructure company,

00:12:24.340 such as a network security firm,

00:12:26.700 Cloudfair,

00:12:27.340 refuses to provide

00:12:29.520 DDoS protection

00:12:30.580 to a vulnerable website,

00:12:32.740 it is vulnerable

00:12:33.640 to being flooded

00:12:34.540 with traffic,

00:12:36.100 rendering it inaccessible.

00:12:37.800 So,

00:12:38.900 you look at what this,

00:12:40.960 what we found out

00:12:42.340 and what you just went through.

00:12:43.900 The question is,

00:12:45.880 how is it that these companies,

00:12:48.520 and I'm specifically referring

00:12:49.860 to big tech,

00:12:51.040 are allowed to get away

00:12:52.300 with this

00:12:52.940 and do this

00:12:53.960 to many people

00:12:54.920 that they're in business with?

00:12:58.060 I use myself

00:12:59.300 as the example again

00:13:00.280 because I've experienced this.

00:13:02.540 When you went into business

00:13:04.040 and I felt like

00:13:04.720 I was in business

00:13:05.300 with Facebook,

00:13:06.160 they said advertise with us,

00:13:07.740 right?

00:13:08.720 Advertise your show,

00:13:10.340 advertise your content,

00:13:11.880 boost your content,

00:13:12.980 spend money with us,

00:13:13.920 and we're going to help you

00:13:14.960 grow an audience

00:13:15.720 and it'll be good for everyone.

00:13:17.560 And then all of a sudden

00:13:18.280 they just shut you down

00:13:19.620 and they were able

00:13:21.300 to walk away

00:13:21.960 and just say,

00:13:22.480 oh, well,

00:13:22.860 you violated our terms of service

00:13:24.900 or you did this

00:13:25.840 or you posted too many things

00:13:27.720 that liberals posted

00:13:29.060 as saying they were

00:13:30.620 factually incorrect.

00:13:31.640 The fact checkers came out,

00:13:33.000 right?

00:13:33.220 The liberals on the left,

00:13:34.560 they were fact checking

00:13:35.620 and putting dings

00:13:36.460 against conservatives

00:13:37.260 so they lose their reach,

00:13:38.500 lose their ability

00:13:39.020 to boost posts,

00:13:39.880 lose their ability

00:13:40.420 to advertise,

00:13:41.820 and it was all being done

00:13:43.280 to clearly influence

00:13:44.940 public opinion

00:13:46.160 and yet they've gotten

00:13:47.440 away with it.

00:13:48.120 So what's next?

00:13:49.620 Well, what this report

00:13:51.540 focuses on,

00:13:52.560 many of the de-platforming

00:13:54.100 steps by Facebook

00:13:55.780 or Twitter

00:13:56.420 or YouTube,

00:13:57.660 they're very public.

00:13:58.840 What this report focuses on

00:14:00.560 is the ones that are not public,

00:14:01.980 which is the back office infrastructure.

00:14:04.260 So let's take,

00:14:04.880 for example,

00:14:05.520 Slack,

00:14:05.960 which is used for communication

00:14:07.880 for many online organizations

00:14:10.640 and companies.

00:14:12.240 Slack canceled

00:14:13.320 libs of TikTok's workspace

00:14:15.000 for violating its terms of service

00:14:17.440 and the terms of service

00:14:18.780 prohibit users

00:14:19.820 from,

00:14:20.200 quote,

00:14:20.960 engaging in activity

00:14:22.060 that incites

00:14:22.700 or encourages violence

00:14:23.840 or hatred

00:14:25.060 against individuals

00:14:26.800 or groups.

00:14:28.600 Slack determined

00:14:29.380 that libs of TikTok

00:14:31.300 violated this policy

00:14:32.700 based on three social media posts

00:14:34.580 concerning,

00:14:35.320 quote,

00:14:35.700 gender-affirming hysterectomies

00:14:37.520 and all-age drag shows.

00:14:40.480 Now,

00:14:40.860 here's the interesting thing.

00:14:41.920 Slack shut down

00:14:42.940 libs of TikTok's workplace

00:14:44.220 without any warning,

00:14:45.700 without any explanation

00:14:47.120 as to how it has violated

00:14:48.580 Slack's policy.

00:14:50.340 And Slack's action

00:14:51.480 caused libs of TikTok

00:14:52.640 to effectively lose

00:14:54.060 its use of Slack's communications

00:14:56.700 and forced it to rely

00:14:57.900 entirely on cell phones

00:14:59.420 to run its business.

00:15:00.900 Now,

00:15:01.260 listen to this quote,

00:15:02.620 which is fascinating.

00:15:04.500 Slack told,

00:15:05.340 the Commerce Committee

00:15:06.060 told my investigation,

00:15:07.460 quote,

00:15:07.680 what makes

00:15:09.440 libs of TikTok's posts

00:15:11.200 problematic

00:15:11.820 is that libs of TikTok

00:15:14.140 has a specific audience

00:15:15.700 and they are taking

00:15:17.200 this information

00:15:18.040 and posting it

00:15:18.960 to that specific audience

00:15:20.220 so that everyone

00:15:21.540 in that audience

00:15:22.260 sees it at the same time.

00:15:23.500 In other words,

00:15:24.080 they didn't even find

00:15:25.300 objections with what

00:15:26.400 libs of TikTok

00:15:27.200 was posting.

00:15:28.040 What they were mad at

00:15:29.040 is conservatives

00:15:30.340 were reading it

00:15:31.700 and that was enough reason

00:15:33.420 to deplatform

00:15:34.380 libs of TikTok.

00:15:35.560 So,

00:15:35.940 when you shut down

00:15:36.740 a business

00:15:37.380 in essence

00:15:38.100 the way they did,

00:15:39.080 is there any real

00:15:40.700 and instant relief

00:15:42.640 for libs of TikTok

00:15:44.820 or others

00:15:45.540 or is this one of those

00:15:46.800 they're too big to fail,

00:15:48.240 right?

00:15:48.540 These companies are too big,

00:15:49.800 they're protected

00:15:50.520 and you're the minion

00:15:52.400 and just deal with it

00:15:54.000 and if you're,

00:15:54.840 and who cares

00:15:55.560 if your life work

00:15:56.340 is destroyed in 30 seconds

00:15:57.740 because they shut it off?

00:15:59.460 So,

00:15:59.800 right now

00:16:00.280 there is not

00:16:01.360 immediate relief.

00:16:02.260 You could presumably

00:16:02.900 file a breach

00:16:03.720 of contract case.

00:16:05.160 The biggest relief

00:16:06.160 and the reason

00:16:06.600 I did this report

00:16:07.420 is just sunshine.

00:16:08.420 They're doing this

00:16:09.120 in the dark.

00:16:09.800 They're doing this

00:16:10.420 without scrutiny.

00:16:11.820 There is right now

00:16:12.880 no federal law

00:16:14.320 that this is prohibited.

00:16:15.280 I'll give you another example,

00:16:16.200 Eventbrite,

00:16:16.680 which we focus on.

00:16:18.520 Eventbrite

00:16:19.000 canceled pages

00:16:20.140 for events

00:16:20.900 hosted by college

00:16:21.940 Republican clubs

00:16:22.860 concerning Matt Walsh's

00:16:24.920 What is a Woman film

00:16:26.000 and it also canceled

00:16:27.720 pages for an event

00:16:29.160 featuring swimmer

00:16:31.040 Riley Gaines

00:16:31.800 for violating

00:16:33.120 its terms of service.

00:16:34.880 Now,

00:16:35.400 critically,

00:16:36.600 no one involved

00:16:37.660 in the decision,

00:16:38.680 this is what they told

00:16:39.540 the committee,

00:16:40.700 watched the movie

00:16:42.020 What is a Woman?

00:16:43.280 So,

00:16:43.440 they never saw it

00:16:44.220 and they couldn't identify

00:16:46.920 anything objectionable

00:16:48.200 in the trailer.

00:16:48.900 So,

00:16:49.060 they just didn't like

00:16:49.840 the topic

00:16:50.340 so they decided

00:16:51.600 to take it down.

00:16:53.180 They relied instead

00:16:54.340 on Matt Walsh's statements

00:16:55.620 about,

00:16:56.420 gender-affirming surgeries,

00:16:57.880 pronouns,

00:16:59.120 and his

00:16:59.480 Johnny the Walrus

00:17:00.360 children's book

00:17:01.100 to reach the conclusion.

00:17:02.200 Likewise,

00:17:03.460 Eventbrite determined

00:17:04.520 that Riley Gaines' event

00:17:05.800 violated its policy

00:17:07.020 based on her

00:17:08.720 social media post

00:17:09.840 about biological men

00:17:11.120 competing in women's sports.

00:17:12.880 They shut down

00:17:13.680 the event page

00:17:14.540 without any warning,

00:17:16.280 without any explanation

00:17:17.160 as to how they violated

00:17:18.240 this policy,

00:17:19.280 without any way

00:17:19.820 to fix it.

00:17:21.260 And,

00:17:21.560 their actions

00:17:23.000 ruined advertisements

00:17:24.380 that included

00:17:25.500 QR codes

00:17:26.340 for the event pages.

00:17:27.220 So,

00:17:27.720 you know,

00:17:27.940 a lot had been done

00:17:28.640 to put out the codes

00:17:29.480 to say,

00:17:29.900 hey,

00:17:30.000 come to this event

00:17:30.760 and they forced

00:17:32.160 the event organizers

00:17:33.140 to quickly pivot

00:17:34.080 to a new method

00:17:34.940 of providing tickets.

00:17:36.860 And,

00:17:36.980 and the committee asked

00:17:38.080 Eventbrite

00:17:39.100 whether

00:17:40.820 Gaines' statement,

00:17:42.640 on October 10th,

00:17:43.680 2023,

00:17:44.460 she posted on,

00:17:45.480 on Twitter,

00:17:46.080 quote,

00:17:47.060 real women

00:17:47.800 lack a Y chromosome

00:17:50.180 and we asked

00:17:52.200 whether that violates

00:17:53.400 Eventbrite's policy.

00:17:55.840 Eventbrite responded

00:17:56.840 that,

00:17:57.340 quote,

00:17:57.660 the post

00:17:58.300 speaks for itself.

00:18:00.240 So,

00:18:00.620 they,

00:18:00.820 they needn't answer that.

00:18:02.620 How dare you say

00:18:04.020 that someone

00:18:04.860 with a Y chromosome

00:18:05.800 is not a woman?

00:18:06.700 We don't even need

00:18:07.820 to dispute it.

00:18:09.220 We have the power

00:18:10.180 to shut it down.

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00:18:20.120 that Big Mobile

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00:18:27.200 that Big Mobile

00:18:27.700 gives big money

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00:20:15.700 So now,

00:20:17.100 moving forward,

00:20:18.180 you shine light

00:20:19.380 on this

00:20:20.040 and you talk about

00:20:21.840 this is really

00:20:22.780 being done

00:20:23.580 in darkness

00:20:24.440 and we need to

00:20:25.260 shine light on it.

00:20:27.140 Was there any

00:20:28.420 nervousness

00:20:29.760 from those

00:20:30.840 that you're questioning?

00:20:32.300 I want to use

00:20:34.000 the word remorse

00:20:34.740 but I can't imagine

00:20:35.940 they're remorseful

00:20:36.740 but is it going

00:20:37.920 to at least

00:20:38.940 make them pause

00:20:39.940 before they do it again

00:20:41.440 or no?

00:20:41.960 So let me ask you,

00:20:42.660 Ben,

00:20:42.780 have you seen this

00:20:43.360 on CNN?

00:20:44.220 No.

00:20:44.980 Have you seen it

00:20:45.440 on ABC, NBC, CBS,

00:20:46.960 MSNBC?

00:20:48.020 Nowhere.

00:20:48.820 Have you read it

00:20:49.220 in the Washington Post?

00:20:50.000 You read it

00:20:50.740 in the New York Times?

00:20:51.880 No, no.

00:20:52.260 The corporate media

00:20:53.160 will not cover it.

00:20:53.880 I'll give you another example.

00:20:55.420 So Bontera,

00:20:56.460 which provides

00:20:57.360 non-profit

00:20:58.140 management services,

00:20:59.140 so it's back office

00:21:00.080 but it's incredibly important

00:21:01.840 and there are very few

00:21:03.380 providers of this.

00:21:05.080 They denied

00:21:06.440 those services

00:21:07.140 to Independent Women's Forum

00:21:08.420 which is a conservative

00:21:09.380 organization

00:21:09.920 that is focused

00:21:11.200 on advancing

00:21:11.800 women's rights

00:21:12.520 and Bontera

00:21:14.340 concluded

00:21:15.000 that it violated

00:21:15.800 its policies

00:21:16.720 which require

00:21:17.620 customers to agree

00:21:18.740 to refrain

00:21:19.320 from advocacy

00:21:20.100 denying

00:21:21.440 quote

00:21:22.020 LGBTQ rights

00:21:23.580 or denying

00:21:24.840 a woman's right

00:21:25.700 to reproductive choice

00:21:26.800 or denying

00:21:27.560 racial justice

00:21:28.500 or denying

00:21:29.480 climate change

00:21:30.580 and their policies

00:21:32.160 also prohibit

00:21:32.860 customers from

00:21:33.580 quote

00:21:33.880 promoting

00:21:34.400 encouraging

00:21:35.160 or facilitating

00:21:36.060 hate speech

00:21:37.000 violence

00:21:37.380 discrimination

00:21:37.880 based on race

00:21:38.820 color

00:21:39.120 sexual orientation

00:21:40.060 marital status

00:21:41.160 gender

00:21:41.560 or identity

00:21:42.280 expression

00:21:42.940 Bontera notified

00:21:44.920 Independent Women's Forum

00:21:45.900 of its decision

00:21:46.620 not to renew

00:21:47.200 their contract

00:21:47.920 without any explanation

00:21:49.600 of how the organization

00:21:51.020 violated this policy

00:21:52.240 as a result

00:21:53.600 Independent Women's Forum

00:21:54.680 had to quickly move

00:21:55.580 off Bontera's platform

00:21:56.740 and obtain a

00:21:57.380 replacement services

00:21:58.300 provider

00:21:58.820 Bontera told

00:22:00.900 the committee

00:22:01.380 that Independent

00:22:02.860 Women's Forum

00:22:03.520 violated its

00:22:04.260 terms of service

00:22:05.000 because the organization

00:22:06.140 quote

00:22:06.620 works to restrict

00:22:08.220 the rights

00:22:08.760 of the LGBTQ

00:22:09.560 community

00:22:10.520 Bontera could not

00:22:12.180 explain exactly

00:22:13.000 how

00:22:13.580 the group

00:22:14.840 was working

00:22:15.380 to restrict

00:22:15.980 LGBTQ rights

00:22:17.300 but generally

00:22:18.340 pointed

00:22:19.420 to Independent

00:22:20.500 Women's Forum's

00:22:21.440 advocacy

00:22:21.900 on issues

00:22:22.780 like protecting

00:22:23.660 women's sports

00:22:25.260 and women's

00:22:26.600 spaces

00:22:26.980 so if you

00:22:27.540 actually think

00:22:28.300 that girls

00:22:28.860 should compete

00:22:29.420 in girls

00:22:29.840 sports

00:22:30.320 that is a view

00:22:32.360 that is not

00:22:33.560 acceptable

00:22:34.140 and you will

00:22:34.680 be denied

00:22:35.440 online basic

00:22:37.180 infrastructure

00:22:38.020 from monopoly

00:22:38.940 and near monopoly

00:22:39.680 providers

00:22:40.320 the amount

00:22:42.040 of arrogance

00:22:42.800 that we see

00:22:43.700 now from these

00:22:44.440 companies

00:22:44.900 you've witnessed

00:22:45.860 it now firsthand

00:22:46.680 tells you

00:22:48.100 they feel like

00:22:48.800 they are protected

00:22:49.500 by the current

00:22:50.240 regime

00:22:50.660 am I wrong

00:22:51.240 you are exactly

00:22:53.000 right

00:22:53.520 and if you

00:22:56.000 look at

00:22:56.680 Eventbrite

00:22:57.960 for example

00:22:58.920 let's go back

00:22:59.480 to Riley Gaines

00:23:00.220 so Riley Gaines

00:23:02.500 they shut her

00:23:03.140 down because

00:23:03.640 they disagreed

00:23:04.700 about

00:23:05.920 not her event

00:23:07.520 but about

00:23:07.980 some posts

00:23:08.760 that she had

00:23:09.280 put out

00:23:09.800 what they

00:23:12.460 did not

00:23:13.380 object to

00:23:14.500 was an event

00:23:16.020 that we

00:23:16.360 identified

00:23:17.000 entitled

00:23:17.860 Gaza

00:23:18.640 and the

00:23:19.640 struggle

00:23:19.980 for

00:23:20.240 Palestine

00:23:20.700 now

00:23:21.960 that event

00:23:22.840 was flagged

00:23:23.960 by Eventbrite's

00:23:24.740 algorithm

00:23:25.160 and it was

00:23:26.320 reviewed by

00:23:27.000 its trust and

00:23:27.580 safety team

00:23:28.240 but it

00:23:28.920 determined

00:23:29.380 that that

00:23:30.120 event

00:23:30.440 did not

00:23:31.100 violate

00:23:31.660 its

00:23:31.900 hateful

00:23:32.480 events

00:23:32.780 policy

00:23:33.360 in an

00:23:35.200 October 9th

00:23:36.520 2023

00:23:36.980 statement

00:23:37.640 so two

00:23:38.060 days off

00:23:38.480 after

00:23:38.840 October 7th

00:23:40.120 here's what

00:23:40.700 the event

00:23:41.220 sponsor

00:23:41.760 the

00:23:41.960 Palestinian

00:23:42.440 American

00:23:42.900 Organization

00:23:43.500 Network

00:23:43.960 said

00:23:44.560 it called

00:23:45.060 the October

00:23:45.600 7th

00:23:46.040 attack

00:23:46.380 quote

00:23:46.860 self-defense

00:23:48.500 measures

00:23:49.000 and said

00:23:50.400 that

00:23:50.600 quote

00:23:50.920 Israel

00:23:51.460 bears

00:23:51.860 the full

00:23:52.280 responsibility

00:23:52.940 for those

00:23:53.500 attacks

00:23:53.980 and declared

00:23:55.360 that

00:23:55.640 quote

00:23:55.960 the Palestinian

00:23:56.600 people have

00:23:57.120 the right

00:23:57.440 to defend

00:23:57.860 themselves

00:23:58.260 and to

00:23:58.560 fight

00:23:58.760 the occupation

00:23:59.480 with all

00:23:59.980 means

00:24:00.280 available

00:24:00.700 we salute

00:24:02.140 the steadfastness

00:24:03.840 of the

00:24:04.140 Palestinian

00:24:04.680 people

00:24:05.180 and its

00:24:05.540 resistance

00:24:06.040 so

00:24:06.700 understand

00:24:07.500 saluting

00:24:09.080 the mass

00:24:09.860 murder

00:24:10.200 of 1200

00:24:10.820 people

00:24:11.300 the raping

00:24:11.940 of women

00:24:12.380 and girls

00:24:13.060 that

00:24:14.580 does not

00:24:15.240 violate

00:24:15.740 their

00:24:16.080 hateful

00:24:16.620 speech

00:24:16.980 policy

00:24:17.560 but

00:24:18.660 saying

00:24:19.420 that

00:24:20.280 girls

00:24:20.840 exist

00:24:21.640 that

00:24:23.000 does

00:24:23.560 saying

00:24:24.760 that

00:24:25.040 men

00:24:25.420 should

00:24:25.720 not

00:24:26.000 compete

00:24:26.400 against

00:24:26.740 women

00:24:27.040 in

00:24:27.220 women's

00:24:27.620 sports

00:24:28.000 that

00:24:28.760 does

00:24:29.360 that

00:24:29.880 is

00:24:30.240 the

00:24:30.520 utter

00:24:31.060 hypocrisy

00:24:32.180 and double

00:24:32.720 standards

00:24:33.380 that

00:24:34.200 that

00:24:34.400 allows

00:24:34.760 by the

00:24:35.120 way

00:24:35.480 event

00:24:36.800 bright

00:24:37.060 has

00:24:37.280 also

00:24:37.640 allowed

00:24:38.040 numerous

00:24:38.640 quote

00:24:39.080 stop

00:24:39.780 cop

00:24:40.300 city

00:24:40.760 events

00:24:41.340 which

00:24:42.160 support

00:24:42.700 violent

00:24:43.420 protesters

00:24:44.120 who

00:24:45.140 oppose

00:24:45.660 the

00:24:45.860 building

00:24:46.280 of a

00:24:47.000 police

00:24:47.540 and

00:24:47.780 firefighter

00:24:48.500 training

00:24:48.920 facility

00:24:49.580 likewise

00:24:51.560 event

00:24:52.680 bright

00:24:53.000 created

00:24:53.460 a map

00:24:54.100 of

00:24:55.120 black

00:24:55.540 lives

00:24:55.960 matter

00:24:56.280 protests

00:24:56.960 many of

00:24:57.420 which

00:24:57.600 turn

00:24:57.860 violent

00:24:58.260 to help

00:24:59.340 users

00:24:59.840 find

00:25:00.320 them

00:25:00.520 so in

00:25:00.860 other

00:25:01.040 words

00:25:01.260 actual

00:25:02.320 events

00:25:02.780 that

00:25:02.980 produce

00:25:03.360 violence

00:25:03.840 that

00:25:04.020 end

00:25:04.160 up

00:25:04.360 killing

00:25:04.740 people

00:25:05.140 that

00:25:05.360 burn

00:25:05.900 shops

00:25:06.960 that

00:25:07.220 firebomb

00:25:08.420 cars

00:25:08.920 those

00:25:09.840 are

00:25:10.220 not

00:25:10.540 deemed

00:25:10.840 hateful

00:25:11.260 and

00:25:11.440 violent

00:25:11.800 but

00:25:12.120 if

00:25:12.300 you

00:25:12.460 say

00:25:12.840 that

00:25:13.080 women

00:25:13.320 exist

00:25:13.920 you

00:25:15.140 must

00:25:15.380 be

00:25:15.580 deplatformed

00:25:16.260 Canadian

00:25:17.500 women

00:25:17.820 are looking

00:25:18.280 for more

00:25:18.900 more

00:25:19.340 to themselves

00:25:19.960 their

00:25:20.340 businesses

00:25:20.800 their

00:25:21.280 elected

00:25:21.580 leaders

00:25:21.940 and

00:25:22.380 the

00:25:22.520 world

00:25:22.680 around

00:25:22.960 them

00:25:23.140 and

00:25:23.460 that's

00:25:23.680 why

00:25:23.780 we're

00:25:23.980 thrilled

00:25:24.300 to

00:25:24.480 introduce

00:25:24.940 the

00:25:25.320 honest

00:25:25.660 talk

00:25:26.000 podcast

00:25:26.680 I'm

00:25:27.300 Jennifer

00:25:27.580 Stewart

00:25:27.980 and

00:25:28.360 I'm

00:25:28.560 Catherine

00:25:28.880 Clark

00:25:29.200 and

00:25:29.640 in

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00:25:29.940 podcast

00:25:30.440 we

00:25:30.760 interview

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00:25:38.680 so

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00:25:39.460 you're

00:25:39.740 looking

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00:25:45.340 listen

00:25:45.560 to

00:25:45.660 your

00:25:45.760 podcasts

00:25:46.280 we

00:25:48.540 talked

00:25:48.820 about

00:25:49.040 the

00:25:49.260 media

00:25:49.640 giving

00:25:49.920 them

00:25:50.100 cover

00:25:50.440 I

00:25:51.080 expect

00:25:51.460 some

00:25:51.840 in

00:25:51.940 the

00:25:52.040 media

00:25:52.280 to

00:25:52.600 be

00:25:52.860 liberal

00:25:53.360 hacks

00:25:53.940 right

00:25:54.260 but

00:25:54.980 this

00:25:55.480 brings

00:25:55.820 up

00:25:56.060 a

00:25:56.240 big

00:25:56.420 issue

00:25:56.800 that

00:25:57.140 we

00:25:57.240 need

00:25:57.360 to

00:25:57.480 talk

00:25:57.740 about

00:25:58.020 with

00:25:58.220 NPR

00:25:58.660 the

00:25:59.660 new

00:25:59.960 CEO

00:26:00.420 of

00:26:01.140 NPR

00:26:07.200 described

00:26:07.420 the

00:26:07.620 first

00:26:07.900 amendment

00:26:08.220 as

00:26:08.740 the

00:26:09.020 number

00:26:09.740 one

00:26:10.440 challenge

00:26:11.760 she

00:26:12.500 faces

00:26:13.160 our

00:26:14.180 tax

00:26:14.560 dollars

00:26:14.920 are

00:26:15.100 going

00:26:15.300 to

00:26:15.440 a

00:26:15.600 CEO

00:26:15.920 who's

00:26:16.520 running

00:26:16.940 NPR

00:26:17.620 national

00:26:18.120 public

00:26:18.540 radio

00:26:18.980 saying

00:26:20.000 the

00:26:20.360 first

00:26:20.660 amendment

00:26:20.960 really

00:26:21.340 seems

00:26:21.680 to

00:26:21.880 get

00:26:22.040 in

00:26:22.180 her

00:26:22.420 way

00:26:22.820 really

00:26:23.540 that's

00:26:24.060 where

00:26:24.220 money

00:26:24.460 is

00:26:24.660 going

00:26:24.980 well

00:26:25.860 unfortunately

00:26:26.620 NPR

00:26:27.260 has been

00:26:27.700 profoundly

00:26:28.220 corrupted

00:26:28.720 and it's

00:26:29.060 been

00:26:29.220 made

00:26:29.480 worse

00:26:29.960 by hiring

00:26:31.000 a

00:26:31.260 CEO

00:26:31.620 who

00:26:32.140 is

00:26:32.360 a

00:26:32.600 brazen

00:26:33.180 blatant

00:26:34.220 unapologetic

00:26:35.580 radical

00:26:36.120 leftist

00:26:36.760 and she

00:26:37.060 doesn't

00:26:37.420 pretend

00:26:37.840 to be

00:26:39.040 unbiased

00:26:39.600 at all

00:26:40.000 now

00:26:40.300 we discussed

00:26:41.460 in a

00:26:41.720 previous

00:26:42.000 podcast

00:26:42.580 a couple

00:26:42.880 of weeks

00:26:43.180 ago

00:26:43.480 the

00:26:44.740 bombshell

00:26:45.740 report

00:26:46.280 from

00:26:46.700 Uri Berliner

00:26:47.480 Uri Berliner

00:26:48.300 was a

00:26:48.760 25 year

00:26:49.900 NPR

00:26:50.760 employee

00:26:51.320 and was

00:26:52.320 the former

00:26:52.680 business

00:26:53.100 editor

00:26:53.460 of

00:26:54.360 NPR

00:26:54.820 and he

00:26:55.240 wrote

00:26:55.600 an April

00:26:56.000 9th

00:26:56.400 essay

00:26:56.640 in the

00:26:56.860 free

00:26:57.060 press

00:26:57.480 which

00:26:58.300 resulted

00:26:58.980 in

00:26:59.280 NPR

00:26:59.700 suspending

00:27:00.520 him

00:27:00.820 for

00:27:01.020 publishing

00:27:01.440 how's

00:27:01.700 that

00:27:01.840 for

00:27:01.980 free

00:27:02.240 speech

00:27:02.580 if

00:27:03.020 you

00:27:03.140 criticize

00:27:03.480 us

00:27:03.980 you're

00:27:04.520 out of

00:27:04.760 here

00:27:04.980 yeah

00:27:05.520 you're

00:27:05.840 gone

00:27:06.160 and

00:27:06.840 ultimately

00:27:07.360 led to

00:27:07.780 his

00:27:07.920 resignation

00:27:08.280 so

00:27:08.660 he's

00:27:08.920 gone

00:27:09.280 this

00:27:09.560 essay

00:27:10.080 cost

00:27:10.560 him

00:27:10.700 his

00:27:10.820 job

00:27:11.240 but

00:27:12.080 he

00:27:12.500 laid

00:27:12.880 out

00:27:13.220 the

00:27:13.580 incredible

00:27:14.320 bias

00:27:15.500 in NPR

00:27:16.060 and the

00:27:16.600 shift

00:27:16.880 in NPR

00:27:17.360 so for

00:27:17.800 example

00:27:18.260 he laid

00:27:18.740 out

00:27:19.000 in

00:27:19.540 2011

00:27:20.020 which was

00:27:20.580 not

00:27:20.780 that long

00:27:21.200 ago

00:27:21.520 NPR's

00:27:22.880 audience

00:27:23.180 was

00:27:23.560 26%

00:27:24.980 conservative

00:27:25.700 23%

00:27:27.460 middle of

00:27:27.800 the road

00:27:28.140 and 37%

00:27:29.240 liberal

00:27:29.520 so it

00:27:29.900 leaned

00:27:30.160 left

00:27:30.480 but not

00:27:30.860 dramatically

00:27:31.400 so

00:27:31.840 by

00:27:32.820 2023

00:27:33.620 those

00:27:34.140 numbers

00:27:34.520 had

00:27:34.740 shifted

00:27:35.020 dramatically

00:27:35.640 it

00:27:36.840 was

00:27:37.060 now

00:27:37.380 instead

00:27:37.660 of

00:27:37.820 37%

00:27:38.580 liberal

00:27:39.020 it

00:27:39.720 was

00:27:39.940 67%

00:27:41.420 liberal

00:27:41.740 and

00:27:41.940 instead

00:27:42.320 of

00:27:42.860 26%

00:27:44.400 conservative

00:27:44.920 it

00:27:45.160 was

00:27:45.260 only

00:27:45.580 11%

00:27:46.700 conservative

00:27:47.220 and

00:27:48.220 Mr. Berliner

00:27:49.460 laid out

00:27:50.120 details of

00:27:51.020 how they

00:27:51.420 would

00:27:51.680 stifle

00:27:52.900 stories

00:27:53.440 that were

00:27:53.780 inconvenient

00:27:54.280 to liberals

00:27:54.900 they would

00:27:55.300 amplify

00:27:55.700 stories

00:27:56.320 like the

00:27:56.660 Russia

00:27:56.860 collusion

00:27:57.360 story

00:27:57.880 even if

00:27:59.060 they were

00:27:59.700 not supported

00:28:00.380 by the

00:28:00.760 facts

00:28:01.180 he

00:28:02.160 outlined

00:28:02.760 at

00:28:02.980 great

00:28:03.260 length

00:28:03.700 how

00:28:04.320 NPR

00:28:06.060 had

00:28:06.420 no

00:28:07.080 interest

00:28:07.860 in

00:28:08.280 being

00:28:09.040 impartial

00:28:09.980 being

00:28:10.260 unbiased

00:28:11.060 and then

00:28:12.280 you take

00:28:13.420 in the

00:28:13.800 wake

00:28:14.080 of this

00:28:14.540 in the

00:28:14.840 wake

00:28:15.160 of what

00:28:15.560 should

00:28:15.860 be

00:28:16.040 real

00:28:16.340 concern

00:28:16.820 of

00:28:17.100 hey

00:28:17.360 we're

00:28:18.140 national

00:28:18.480 public

00:28:18.820 radio

00:28:19.160 we're

00:28:19.440 supposed

00:28:19.840 to be

00:28:20.500 nonpartisan

00:28:22.160 we're

00:28:22.400 supposed

00:28:22.640 to be

00:28:22.920 down

00:28:23.120 the

00:28:23.280 middle

00:28:23.440 now

00:28:23.640 look

00:28:23.840 I

00:28:24.620 for

00:28:24.860 one

00:28:25.180 have

00:28:25.520 serious

00:28:26.200 doubts

00:28:26.760 why

00:28:27.180 the

00:28:27.380 taxpayers

00:28:27.800 should

00:28:28.160 fund

00:28:28.480 any

00:28:29.060 radio

00:28:29.420 station

00:28:29.800 I think

00:28:30.120 there are

00:28:30.320 plenty

00:28:30.560 of

00:28:30.700 for-profit

00:28:31.160 radio

00:28:31.520 stations

00:28:31.980 I don't

00:28:32.680 know why

00:28:33.040 the government

00:28:33.520 should

00:28:33.860 coercively

00:28:34.560 tax you

00:28:35.360 to pay

00:28:36.100 for yet

00:28:36.480 another

00:28:36.760 radio

00:28:37.100 station

00:28:37.540 but I'll

00:28:37.880 tell you

00:28:38.180 what

00:28:38.440 even if

00:28:39.300 there's

00:28:39.540 an argument

00:28:39.980 they should

00:28:40.480 do so

00:28:41.020 for generic

00:28:41.800 news

00:28:42.280 that somehow

00:28:43.060 there's not

00:28:43.560 a market

00:28:43.880 demand for

00:28:44.560 there is

00:28:45.600 no argument

00:28:46.340 I know

00:28:46.740 of that

00:28:47.060 they should

00:28:47.460 do so

00:28:48.000 only for

00:28:48.640 left-wing

00:28:49.060 propaganda

00:28:49.680 and the

00:28:50.880 newly

00:28:51.140 appointed

00:28:51.520 CEO

00:28:52.020 Catherine

00:28:52.520 Marr

00:28:53.260 has been

00:28:54.940 a hard

00:28:55.600 partisan

00:28:56.040 her whole

00:28:56.460 life

00:28:56.660 so for

00:28:57.060 example

00:28:57.520 in 2020

00:28:59.040 Marr

00:29:00.320 referred

00:29:00.800 to

00:29:01.860 President

00:29:02.280 Donald

00:29:02.660 Trump

00:29:03.060 as a

00:29:03.440 quote

00:29:03.800 deranged

00:29:05.380 racist

00:29:06.800 sociopath

00:29:08.100 well

00:29:09.380 then I'm

00:29:10.240 confident her

00:29:10.800 coverage of

00:29:11.460 Donald Trump

00:29:12.220 will be fair

00:29:12.840 as long as she

00:29:13.800 introduces him as a

00:29:14.720 deranged racist

00:29:15.560 sociopath every time

00:29:16.820 he's covered

00:29:17.280 how do you even get

00:29:18.540 that job

00:29:18.980 and I'm being

00:29:19.520 serious

00:29:20.080 if you're

00:29:20.820 National Public

00:29:21.500 Radio

00:29:21.840 how does that

00:29:23.600 automatically

00:29:24.560 disqualify you

00:29:26.120 from that position

00:29:27.100 as soon as they

00:29:28.120 see that quote

00:29:29.000 yeah and by the way

00:29:30.400 that's not an

00:29:31.160 outlier

00:29:31.580 in 2021

00:29:32.840 she celebrated

00:29:34.340 Trump's banishment

00:29:35.940 from social media

00:29:37.000 referring to him

00:29:37.820 as a fascist

00:29:38.560 so she loves

00:29:39.400 censorship

00:29:39.900 okay

00:29:40.420 the former

00:29:41.780 president of the

00:29:42.420 United States

00:29:43.020 elected by the

00:29:43.840 American people

00:29:44.600 I'm thrilled

00:29:45.900 that he's being

00:29:46.820 silenced

00:29:47.440 because I

00:29:47.940 dislike his

00:29:48.460 politics

00:29:48.920 and I think

00:29:49.320 he's a

00:29:49.580 fascist

00:29:50.060 in May of

00:29:51.100 2020

00:29:51.560 right in the

00:29:52.820 middle of the

00:29:53.220 George Floyd

00:29:53.740 riots

00:29:54.240 Marr suggested

00:29:55.980 that looting

00:29:57.880 represented a

00:29:59.760 form of

00:30:00.620 reparative

00:30:01.400 justice

00:30:01.980 for historic

00:30:03.800 wrongs

00:30:04.460 and she

00:30:04.760 remarked

00:30:05.920 how white

00:30:06.760 silence

00:30:07.660 is tantamount

00:30:09.440 to complicity

00:30:10.380 and violence

00:30:11.060 she's also

00:30:12.460 posted repeatedly

00:30:13.600 in support of

00:30:15.140 Democrat

00:30:15.540 politicians

00:30:16.200 including

00:30:17.520 Hillary Clinton

00:30:18.240 Elizabeth Warren

00:30:19.920 Kamala Harris

00:30:21.560 and Joe

00:30:22.700 Biden

00:30:23.060 now listen

00:30:24.680 as a private

00:30:25.700 citizen

00:30:26.120 she has a

00:30:27.180 right to be

00:30:27.700 an angry

00:30:28.120 left-wing

00:30:28.620 radical

00:30:29.060 and a

00:30:30.380 hard

00:30:30.920 Democrat

00:30:31.420 partisan

00:30:31.920 but

00:30:33.080 explain to

00:30:34.140 me why

00:30:34.760 on earth

00:30:35.300 the American

00:30:35.840 taxpayers

00:30:36.460 should fund

00:30:37.880 her partisan

00:30:38.600 propaganda

00:30:39.180 yeah and

00:30:40.300 yet that's

00:30:40.760 exactly why

00:30:41.360 she probably

00:30:41.860 got the job

00:30:42.480 because they're

00:30:42.780 like oh

00:30:43.080 perfect

00:30:43.500 you're gonna

00:30:43.980 keep pushing

00:30:44.640 this propaganda

00:30:45.360 out there

00:30:46.040 full speed

00:30:46.620 ahead

00:30:47.000 when I ask

00:30:47.920 all of you

00:30:48.440 listening right

00:30:48.960 now to do me

00:30:49.420 a favor real

00:30:49.980 quick I want

00:30:50.840 you to place

00:30:51.400 your hand

00:30:52.420 over your

00:30:53.260 heart if you

00:30:53.800 can can you

00:30:54.960 feel that

00:30:55.500 it's your

00:30:56.040 heartbeat

00:30:56.460 telling you

00:30:57.720 that you

00:30:58.080 are alive

00:30:58.720 it's the same

00:31:00.100 for a pre-born

00:31:00.960 baby their

00:31:02.140 heart begins

00:31:02.800 to form at

00:31:03.820 conception and

00:31:05.320 in just three

00:31:05.920 weeks it is

00:31:06.940 already beating

00:31:07.760 at five weeks

00:31:09.000 a baby's heartbeat

00:31:09.800 can be heard

00:31:10.620 on an ultrasound

00:31:11.600 and that is

00:31:13.120 why I am

00:31:13.820 proud to say

00:31:14.460 that I'm

00:31:14.820 partnering with

00:31:15.540 pre-born

00:31:16.160 because we

00:31:17.160 need to help

00:31:18.140 those precious

00:31:19.140 babies

00:31:19.620 every day

00:31:20.960 pre-born's

00:31:21.940 network of

00:31:22.740 clinic rescues

00:31:24.440 200 babies

00:31:26.460 from abortion

00:31:27.460 why because

00:31:29.280 when a mother

00:31:29.960 with an unplanned

00:31:31.160 pregnancy meets

00:31:32.200 her baby on

00:31:33.040 ultrasound and

00:31:34.600 hears their

00:31:35.320 baby's heartbeat

00:31:36.580 it is a divine

00:31:38.080 encounter that

00:31:39.280 doubles a

00:31:40.340 baby's chance

00:31:41.200 at life

00:31:41.980 by six weeks

00:31:43.360 eyes are

00:31:44.100 forming

00:31:44.440 by ten weeks

00:31:45.580 a baby is able

00:31:46.420 to suck his

00:31:47.080 or her own

00:31:47.900 thumb

00:31:48.320 and for just

00:31:49.600 twenty eight

00:31:50.560 dollars you

00:31:51.880 can be the

00:31:52.500 difference between

00:31:53.280 life or death

00:31:54.180 of that child

00:31:55.260 it is incredible

00:31:56.660 because what

00:31:57.740 pre-born does

00:31:58.660 is they give

00:32:00.160 the chance

00:32:01.500 for a mother

00:32:02.520 to hear

00:32:03.660 the baby's

00:32:05.100 heartbeat

00:32:05.920 now all gifts

00:32:07.160 are tax deductible

00:32:08.180 you can donate

00:32:09.400 and you can

00:32:10.260 donate easily

00:32:11.100 just dial

00:32:11.960 pound 250

00:32:13.460 and say the

00:32:15.020 keyword baby

00:32:16.200 that's pound

00:32:17.440 250

00:32:18.480 and say the

00:32:19.960 keyword baby

00:32:20.880 you can donate

00:32:22.160 securely at

00:32:22.960 preborn.com

00:32:24.140 slash verdict

00:32:25.400 as well

00:32:26.080 that's

00:32:26.940 preborn.com

00:32:28.920 slash

00:32:30.060 verdict

00:32:31.000 senator if

00:32:32.200 you are at

00:32:32.760 NPR

00:32:33.160 can you imagine

00:32:34.340 if you are

00:32:34.920 a lefty

00:32:35.980 how much

00:32:36.520 freedom

00:32:37.160 I think

00:32:37.740 it would

00:32:38.060 make you

00:32:38.540 feel like

00:32:38.940 you had

00:32:39.560 to then

00:32:40.540 go out

00:32:40.960 there and

00:32:41.360 continue to

00:32:41.880 push propaganda

00:32:42.660 on the

00:32:43.120 American people

00:32:43.880 if this is

00:32:44.440 your CEO

00:32:44.960 I mean

00:32:45.260 it's a

00:32:45.620 license to

00:32:46.240 to basically

00:32:47.320 go all

00:32:48.660 in on

00:32:49.680 liberal

00:32:50.040 propaganda

00:32:50.580 at the

00:32:51.560 taxpayers

00:32:52.260 expense

00:32:53.480 no that

00:32:55.180 that is

00:32:55.680 exactly

00:32:56.240 right

00:32:56.720 and and

00:32:57.280 and I've

00:32:57.740 got to

00:32:58.000 say listen

00:32:58.460 as you know

00:32:59.640 I'm the

00:32:59.900 ranking member

00:33:00.460 on the

00:33:00.720 senate committee

00:33:01.560 of commerce

00:33:02.120 science and

00:33:02.660 transportation

00:33:03.120 and part

00:33:04.940 of my

00:33:05.240 responsibility

00:33:05.900 in that

00:33:06.440 role

00:33:06.720 we've got

00:33:07.380 jurisdiction

00:33:07.900 over about

00:33:08.360 40% of

00:33:09.220 the US

00:33:09.580 economy

00:33:10.060 and and

00:33:11.120 part of my

00:33:11.640 responsibility

00:33:12.320 is oversight

00:33:13.180 and I can

00:33:13.700 tell you

00:33:14.200 that that

00:33:14.640 I am

00:33:15.200 actively

00:33:15.680 engaging

00:33:16.240 in oversight

00:33:16.740 right now

00:33:17.540 calling on

00:33:18.760 NPR

00:33:19.080 to explain

00:33:19.760 to explain

00:33:20.580 why they're

00:33:21.840 willing to

00:33:22.300 put in

00:33:22.620 place a

00:33:23.200 hard

00:33:23.780 left-wing

00:33:24.500 activist

00:33:25.380 not a

00:33:25.980 neutral

00:33:26.280 journalist

00:33:26.740 but someone

00:33:27.500 who is

00:33:28.180 biased

00:33:29.920 who is

00:33:31.460 who is

00:33:33.200 an active

00:33:34.060 supporter

00:33:34.700 of censorship

00:33:35.640 to violence

00:33:36.480 to silence

00:33:38.000 the views

00:33:38.600 she disagrees

00:33:39.380 with

00:33:39.760 why NPR

00:33:41.120 believes

00:33:41.700 that that

00:33:42.280 is an

00:33:43.740 appropriate

00:33:44.140 leader for

00:33:44.960 their institution

00:33:45.700 yeah that's

00:33:46.840 a really great

00:33:47.340 point

00:33:47.700 and listen

00:33:49.280 don't necessarily

00:33:50.300 take our

00:33:50.820 word for it

00:33:51.520 I want you

00:33:52.580 to listen

00:33:52.960 to Catherine

00:33:53.480 Maher

00:33:53.760 in her

00:33:54.000 own words

00:33:54.560 because it's

00:33:55.060 going to

00:33:55.280 show just

00:33:55.700 how radical

00:33:56.240 she is

00:33:56.760 and I want

00:33:57.260 to play

00:33:57.480 a couple

00:33:57.760 clips

00:33:58.140 let's start

00:33:59.160 with her

00:33:59.560 explaining

00:34:00.040 that in

00:34:00.380 her view

00:34:00.820 the number

00:34:01.180 one challenge

00:34:02.020 that she

00:34:02.780 faces is the

00:34:03.580 first amendment

00:34:04.100 of the

00:34:04.340 constitution

00:34:04.840 let's play

00:34:05.800 that clip

00:34:06.240 the number

00:34:07.180 one challenge

00:34:07.920 here that

00:34:08.340 we see

00:34:09.160 is of course

00:34:10.260 the first

00:34:10.700 amendment

00:34:10.960 in the

00:34:11.260 United States

00:34:12.040 is a

00:34:12.860 fairly

00:34:13.260 robust

00:34:13.960 protection

00:34:16.440 of rights

00:34:16.940 and that

00:34:17.980 is a

00:34:18.500 protection

00:34:18.740 of rights

00:34:19.040 both for

00:34:19.340 platforms

00:34:19.740 which I

00:34:20.000 actually think

00:34:20.380 is very

00:34:20.700 important

00:34:21.080 that platforms

00:34:21.640 have those

00:34:22.080 rights

00:34:22.340 to be able

00:34:22.880 to regulate

00:34:23.320 what kind

00:34:23.860 of content

00:34:24.300 they want

00:34:24.720 on their

00:34:25.080 sites

00:34:25.520 but it

00:34:26.260 also means

00:34:26.860 that it

00:34:27.240 is a little

00:34:27.620 bit tricky

00:34:28.240 to really

00:34:29.560 address

00:34:29.920 some of

00:34:30.440 the real

00:34:31.260 challenges

00:34:31.780 of where

00:34:32.700 does bad

00:34:33.420 information

00:34:33.980 come from

00:34:34.580 and sort

00:34:35.100 of the

00:34:35.260 influence

00:34:35.620 peddlers

00:34:35.960 who have

00:34:36.280 made a

00:34:36.600 real market

00:34:36.980 economy

00:34:37.400 around it

00:34:37.980 I mean

00:34:38.920 it's amazing

00:34:39.640 Senator

00:34:39.920 this is the

00:34:40.480 woman running

00:34:40.960 NPR

00:34:41.380 and I guess

00:34:41.940 this is almost

00:34:42.520 like the best

00:34:43.100 thing you can

00:34:43.400 put on your

00:34:43.780 resume

00:34:44.100 right

00:34:44.380 you're like

00:34:44.660 hey I

00:34:45.000 think the

00:34:45.320 first amendment

00:34:45.760 is a real

00:34:46.120 problem

00:34:46.460 it's like

00:34:46.780 perfect

00:34:47.180 we'd love

00:34:47.740 to hire

00:34:48.120 you at

00:34:48.440 NPR

00:34:48.840 yeah and

00:34:49.580 she actually

00:34:50.260 says well

00:34:50.860 the first

00:34:51.840 amendment

00:34:52.100 is really

00:34:52.620 important

00:34:53.100 for

00:34:53.340 platforms

00:34:54.040 but then

00:34:54.420 what she

00:34:54.700 describes

00:34:55.160 as their

00:34:55.460 first amendment

00:34:55.960 right

00:34:56.280 is for

00:34:57.260 their ability

00:34:57.840 to censor

00:34:58.420 and silence

00:34:58.920 things they

00:34:59.340 disagree with

00:34:59.960 so to her

00:35:00.920 mind

00:35:01.240 what she

00:35:01.740 cares about

00:35:02.360 is the

00:35:02.700 ability

00:35:03.100 if there's

00:35:04.220 a view

00:35:04.560 that is

00:35:05.280 right of

00:35:05.640 center

00:35:05.880 as far

00:35:06.800 as she's

00:35:07.180 concerned

00:35:07.480 the first

00:35:07.880 amendment

00:35:08.160 is all

00:35:08.520 about

00:35:08.780 silencing

00:35:09.380 those

00:35:09.760 views

00:35:10.040 there can

00:35:10.500 be no

00:35:10.880 dissent

00:35:11.340 I want

00:35:12.500 you to

00:35:12.700 listen to

00:35:13.060 another

00:35:13.280 clip

00:35:13.560 this is

00:35:13.880 a TED

00:35:14.280 talk

00:35:14.660 where

00:35:15.340 she's

00:35:15.680 discussing

00:35:16.140 truth

00:35:16.780 when she

00:35:17.080 was at

00:35:17.360 Wikipedia

00:35:17.760 and

00:35:18.820 somehow

00:35:19.820 she has

00:35:20.240 a different

00:35:20.520 view of

00:35:20.900 truth

00:35:21.140 than I

00:35:21.380 think

00:35:21.560 you and

00:35:21.800 I

00:35:21.920 might

00:35:22.140 have

00:35:22.580 give a

00:35:22.860 listen

00:35:23.100 the hard

00:35:24.360 things

00:35:24.880 the places

00:35:25.460 where we

00:35:25.860 are prone

00:35:26.340 to

00:35:26.560 disagreement

00:35:26.980 say

00:35:27.500 politics

00:35:28.360 and

00:35:28.680 religion

00:35:29.160 well

00:35:30.000 as it

00:35:30.620 turns out

00:35:31.240 not only

00:35:32.060 does

00:35:32.220 Wikipedia's

00:35:32.780 model

00:35:33.040 work

00:35:33.380 there

00:35:33.700 it

00:35:34.320 actually

00:35:34.740 works

00:35:35.120 really

00:35:35.460 well

00:35:35.800 because

00:35:36.640 in our

00:35:37.240 normal

00:35:37.680 lives

00:35:38.260 these

00:35:38.560 contentious

00:35:39.180 conversations

00:35:39.920 tend to

00:35:40.720 erupt

00:35:41.360 over

00:35:41.600 disagreement

00:35:42.340 about

00:35:42.860 what

00:35:43.220 the

00:35:43.540 truth

00:35:43.900 actually

00:35:44.640 is

00:35:45.120 but

00:35:46.020 the

00:35:46.140 people

00:35:46.340 who

00:35:46.520 write

00:35:46.780 these

00:35:47.040 articles

00:35:47.480 they're

00:35:48.120 not

00:35:48.360 focused

00:35:49.220 on

00:35:49.940 the

00:35:50.100 truth

00:35:50.440 they're

00:35:51.180 focused

00:35:51.420 on

00:35:51.600 something

00:35:51.900 else

00:35:52.300 which

00:35:53.160 is

00:35:53.280 the

00:35:53.440 best

00:35:53.740 of

00:35:53.920 what

00:35:54.080 we

00:35:54.340 can

00:35:54.580 know

00:35:54.980 right

00:35:55.720 now

00:35:56.180 and

00:35:57.300 after

00:35:57.540 seven

00:35:58.060 years

00:35:58.600 of

00:35:59.000 working

00:35:59.360 with

00:35:59.660 these

00:35:59.900 brilliant

00:36:00.280 folks

00:36:00.840 I've

00:36:01.720 come

00:36:01.880 to

00:36:02.060 believe

00:36:02.380 that

00:36:02.620 they

00:36:02.760 are

00:36:02.920 on

00:36:03.180 to

00:36:03.320 something

00:36:03.740 that

00:36:04.440 perhaps

00:36:05.140 for

00:36:05.680 our

00:36:05.900 most

00:36:06.360 tricky

00:36:06.800 disagreements

00:36:07.660 seeking

00:36:08.720 the

00:36:08.980 truth

00:36:09.340 and

00:36:10.440 seeking

00:36:10.760 to

00:36:11.020 convince

00:36:11.380 others

00:36:11.900 of

00:36:12.160 the

00:36:12.300 truth

00:36:12.640 might

00:36:13.720 not

00:36:13.980 be

00:36:14.360 the

00:36:14.800 right

00:36:14.980 place

00:36:15.280 to

00:36:15.480 start

00:36:15.800 in

00:36:17.000 fact

00:36:17.480 our

00:36:18.400 reference

00:36:18.940 for

00:36:19.180 the

00:36:19.340 truth

00:36:19.720 might

00:36:20.840 be

00:36:21.060 a

00:36:21.200 distraction

00:36:21.680 that's

00:36:22.680 getting

00:36:23.040 in

00:36:23.320 the

00:36:23.440 way

00:36:23.800 of

00:36:24.400 finding

00:36:24.860 common

00:36:25.360 ground

00:36:25.780 and

00:36:26.280 getting

00:36:26.540 things

00:36:26.920 done

00:36:27.180 now

00:36:28.540 that is

00:36:30.340 not to

00:36:30.780 say

00:36:31.100 that the

00:36:31.620 truth

00:36:32.000 doesn't

00:36:32.480 exist

00:36:32.940 nor is

00:36:34.180 it to

00:36:34.400 say that

00:36:34.720 the truth

00:36:35.120 isn't

00:36:35.460 important

00:36:35.940 clearly the

00:36:37.440 search for

00:36:37.980 the truth

00:36:38.440 has led

00:36:39.140 us to

00:36:39.660 do

00:36:40.000 great

00:36:41.040 things

00:36:41.780 to learn

00:36:42.600 great

00:36:43.080 things

00:36:43.640 but

00:36:45.000 I think

00:36:46.720 if I were

00:36:47.120 to really

00:36:47.540 ask you

00:36:48.200 to think

00:36:48.720 about this

00:36:49.360 one of

00:36:51.060 the things

00:36:51.380 that we

00:36:51.600 could all

00:36:51.940 acknowledge

00:36:52.420 is that

00:36:53.220 part of

00:36:53.780 the reason

00:36:54.220 we have

00:36:54.540 such

00:36:54.760 glorious

00:36:55.640 chronicles

00:36:56.380 to the

00:36:57.120 human

00:36:57.400 experience

00:36:58.040 and all

00:36:58.580 forms of

00:36:59.100 culture

00:36:59.460 is because

00:37:00.340 we acknowledge

00:37:01.080 there are

00:37:01.520 many

00:37:01.840 different

00:37:02.280 truths

00:37:02.760 and so

00:37:04.200 in the

00:37:04.720 spirit

00:37:05.100 of that

00:37:05.600 I'm

00:37:06.360 certain

00:37:06.760 that the

00:37:07.240 truth

00:37:07.480 exists

00:37:07.840 for you

00:37:08.360 and

00:37:09.120 probably

00:37:09.700 for the

00:37:10.100 person

00:37:10.380 sitting

00:37:10.700 next

00:37:10.960 to you

00:37:11.320 but

00:37:12.380 this

00:37:12.640 may

00:37:12.920 not

00:37:13.140 be

00:37:13.320 the

00:37:13.520 same

00:37:13.760 truth

00:37:14.140 this

00:37:15.480 is

00:37:15.760 because

00:37:16.060 the

00:37:16.500 truth

00:37:17.000 of

00:37:17.200 the

00:37:17.320 matter

00:37:17.620 is

00:37:18.280 very

00:37:18.620 often

00:37:19.180 for

00:37:19.500 many

00:37:19.820 people

00:37:20.280 what

00:37:21.180 happens

00:37:21.620 when we

00:37:22.040 merge

00:37:22.420 facts

00:37:22.880 about

00:37:23.140 the

00:37:23.340 world

00:37:23.660 with

00:37:24.160 our

00:37:24.360 beliefs

00:37:24.780 about

00:37:25.100 the

00:37:25.280 world

00:37:25.600 so

00:37:26.420 we

00:37:26.580 all

00:37:26.760 have

00:37:26.980 different

00:37:27.300 truths

00:37:27.800 they're

00:37:28.540 based

00:37:28.780 on

00:37:28.960 things

00:37:29.180 like

00:37:29.320 where

00:37:29.460 we

00:37:29.620 come

00:37:29.940 from

00:37:30.360 how

00:37:31.000 we

00:37:31.180 were

00:37:31.360 raised

00:37:31.960 and

00:37:32.520 how

00:37:32.680 other

00:37:32.980 people

00:37:33.420 perceive

00:37:33.860 us

00:37:34.320 what

00:37:35.440 utter

00:37:36.500 garbage

00:37:37.420 like

00:37:37.960 every

00:37:38.480 word

00:37:39.000 of that

00:37:39.280 you

00:37:39.420 want

00:37:39.600 an

00:37:39.740 indictment

00:37:40.360 of

00:37:40.500 the

00:37:40.620 modern

00:37:40.900 left

00:37:41.180 you

00:37:41.340 want

00:37:41.480 an

00:37:41.600 indictment

00:37:42.000 of

00:37:42.100 the

00:37:42.260 idiocy

00:37:42.800 of

00:37:43.080 media

00:37:43.320 you

00:37:43.480 want

00:37:43.620 an

00:37:43.740 indictment

00:37:44.260 of

00:37:44.620 the

00:37:44.740 academic

00:37:45.160 world

00:37:45.560 you

00:37:45.700 want

00:37:45.820 an

00:37:45.960 indictment

00:37:46.460 of

00:37:46.600 big

00:37:46.840 tech

00:37:47.160 good

00:37:47.500 god

00:37:47.920 what

00:37:48.140 utter

00:37:48.400 garbage

00:37:48.900 truth

00:37:49.500 doesn't

00:37:49.880 exist

00:37:50.200 george

00:37:50.600 orwell

00:37:51.160 is

00:37:52.260 spinning

00:37:52.680 in his

00:37:53.040 grave

00:37:53.320 and laughing

00:37:53.820 at the

00:37:54.140 same

00:37:54.360 time

00:37:54.680 two

00:37:54.880 plus

00:37:55.100 two

00:37:55.260 doesn't

00:37:55.540 equal

00:37:55.740 four

00:37:56.040 it

00:37:56.160 equals

00:37:56.420 five

00:37:56.780 because

00:37:57.020 we

00:37:57.220 say

00:37:57.460 it

00:37:57.600 is

00:37:57.740 there

00:37:58.180 is

00:37:58.520 no

00:37:58.720 truth

00:37:59.000 listen

00:37:59.240 to

00:37:59.360 that

00:37:59.520 quote

00:37:59.860 our

00:38:00.600 reverence

00:38:01.080 for

00:38:01.240 the

00:38:01.360 truth

00:38:01.680 might

00:38:01.940 be

00:38:02.100 a

00:38:02.220 distraction

00:38:11.600 politics

00:38:11.880 and

00:38:12.080 religion

00:38:12.440 when

00:38:12.660 it

00:38:12.780 comes

00:38:13.000 to

00:38:13.160 politics

00:38:13.540 and

00:38:13.820 religion

00:38:14.200 look

00:38:15.080 Jesus

00:38:15.560 Christ

00:38:15.900 said

00:38:16.120 I

00:38:16.240 am

00:38:16.360 the

00:38:16.440 way

00:38:16.560 the

00:38:16.700 truth

00:38:16.920 and

00:38:17.040 the

00:38:17.120 life

00:38:17.320 but

00:38:17.480 no

00:38:17.660 no

00:38:17.840 no

00:38:17.960 no

00:38:18.420 no

00:38:18.760 don't

00:38:19.100 have

00:38:19.300 reverence

00:38:19.680 for

00:38:19.840 truth

00:38:20.100 we're

00:38:20.300 not

00:38:20.460 interested

00:38:20.820 in

00:38:21.060 that

00:38:21.300 we

00:38:21.900 are

00:38:22.120 interested

00:38:22.660 in

00:38:23.140 set

00:38:23.660 aside

00:38:24.000 a

00:38:24.140 truth

00:38:24.420 that

00:38:24.600 can

00:38:24.740 be

00:38:24.880 your

00:38:25.120 truth

00:38:25.440 my

00:38:25.680 truth

00:38:25.980 everyone

00:38:26.280 has

00:38:26.580 a

00:38:26.720 truth

00:38:26.980 maybe

00:38:27.500 for

00:38:27.740 you

00:38:27.940 two

00:38:28.120 plus

00:38:28.360 two

00:38:28.660 is

00:38:29.100 five

00:38:29.620 what

00:38:30.620 utter

00:38:31.480 garbage

00:38:32.400 you

00:38:32.520 know

00:38:32.600 what

00:38:32.700 a

00:38:41.600 the

00:38:41.820 truth

00:38:42.120 remember

00:38:42.700 what

00:38:42.900 journalists

00:38:43.260 used

00:38:43.520 to

00:38:43.680 learn

00:38:43.920 who

00:38:44.100 what

00:38:44.300 when

00:38:44.500 where

00:38:44.720 how

00:38:44.960 why

00:38:45.260 like

00:38:45.720 what

00:38:45.980 happened

00:38:46.420 what

00:38:46.640 are

00:38:46.740 the

00:38:46.880 facts

00:38:47.240 well

00:38:47.460 no

00:38:47.620 no

00:38:47.720 no

00:38:47.840 not

00:38:48.100 according

00:38:48.420 to her

00:38:48.840 according

00:38:49.580 to her

00:38:50.360 there are

00:38:50.740 no

00:38:50.900 facts

00:38:51.200 there

00:38:51.380 is

00:38:51.560 no

00:38:51.740 truth

00:38:52.080 it's

00:38:52.320 your

00:38:52.500 truth

00:38:52.780 it's

00:38:52.960 my

00:38:53.160 truth

00:38:53.440 and

00:38:53.580 my

00:38:53.820 truth

00:38:54.140 from

00:38:54.680 Catherine

00:38:55.040 Mars

00:38:55.300 perspective

00:38:55.860 is

00:38:56.500 is a

00:38:56.780 left-wing

00:38:57.240 partisan

00:38:57.740 whatever

00:38:58.220 the

00:38:58.740 orthodoxy

00:38:59.480 is

00:38:59.720 and we

00:39:00.060 will

00:39:00.400 silence

00:39:01.480 views

00:39:01.840 that

00:39:02.020 disagree

00:39:02.480 and

00:39:03.820 the

00:39:04.000 first

00:39:04.300 amendment

00:39:04.700 is a

00:39:05.240 pesky

00:39:05.800 pesky

00:39:06.380 barrier

00:39:06.800 all right

00:39:07.320 I want

00:39:07.520 to play

00:39:07.720 one more

00:39:08.040 clip

00:39:08.300 yeah

00:39:09.060 one more

00:39:10.180 clip

00:39:10.600 where she's

00:39:11.840 describing

00:39:12.460 what she

00:39:13.220 did at

00:39:13.760 wikipedia

00:39:14.300 listen to

00:39:14.780 this third

00:39:15.200 clip

00:39:15.520 I started

00:39:16.520 by talking

00:39:16.920 about the

00:39:17.440 idea of

00:39:17.940 free and

00:39:18.420 open

00:39:18.720 as some

00:39:19.580 of our

00:39:19.800 founding

00:39:20.300 principles

00:39:20.860 sort of

00:39:21.200 free and

00:39:21.480 open source

00:39:22.060 coming from

00:39:22.640 the idea of

00:39:23.340 the open

00:39:24.040 source

00:39:24.280 community

00:39:24.760 well I

00:39:26.060 have come

00:39:26.420 to the

00:39:26.840 opinion

00:39:27.120 and the

00:39:27.740 perspective

00:39:28.120 that free

00:39:28.680 and open

00:39:29.120 was a

00:39:30.180 way of

00:39:30.820 looking at

00:39:31.220 the world

00:39:31.680 that was

00:39:32.140 inherently

00:39:32.780 limited

00:39:33.320 relative to

00:39:33.960 what we

00:39:34.200 were trying

00:39:34.600 to achieve

00:39:35.140 free and

00:39:35.660 open

00:39:35.800 has the

00:39:36.280 best of

00:39:36.760 intentionality

00:39:37.560 but in

00:39:38.480 the end

00:39:38.920 what free

00:39:39.300 and open

00:39:39.580 often ended

00:39:40.300 up doing

00:39:40.760 particularly

00:39:41.260 in the

00:39:41.560 case of

00:39:41.900 wikipedia

00:39:42.320 was really

00:39:43.180 recapitulating

00:39:44.560 many of the

00:39:45.140 same power

00:39:45.680 structures

00:39:46.160 and dynamics

00:39:46.820 that exist

00:39:47.440 offline

00:39:48.320 prior to

00:39:48.920 the advent

00:39:49.560 of the

00:39:50.000 internet

00:39:50.280 and so

00:39:50.740 what we

00:39:51.020 ended up

00:39:51.480 seeing

00:39:51.800 was wikipedia

00:39:52.720 really rebuilt

00:39:53.900 this idea

00:39:54.660 of knowledge

00:39:55.320 as a whole

00:39:56.020 around

00:39:56.760 what the

00:39:57.420 western

00:39:57.800 canon

00:39:58.240 you see

00:39:58.860 the exclusion

00:39:59.680 of communities

00:40:00.960 of languages

00:40:01.880 because of

00:40:02.740 the ways

00:40:03.280 in which

00:40:03.700 wikipedia

00:40:04.080 is based

00:40:05.020 on reliable

00:40:05.600 sources

00:40:06.020 the idea

00:40:06.520 of a

00:40:06.800 written

00:40:07.000 tradition

00:40:07.540 and something

00:40:08.720 that is

00:40:09.080 particular

00:40:09.420 to many

00:40:11.740 I mean

00:40:12.180 no sorry

00:40:12.720 the idea

00:40:13.220 of a

00:40:13.420 written

00:40:13.600 tradition

00:40:14.040 which is

00:40:14.400 particular

00:40:14.660 to some

00:40:15.120 cultures

00:40:15.520 and not

00:40:15.920 to others

00:40:16.460 the ways

00:40:17.080 in which

00:40:17.380 we

00:40:17.640 ascribe

00:40:18.700 notability

00:40:19.340 often

00:40:19.860 really comes

00:40:20.880 from sort

00:40:21.160 of this

00:40:21.400 white

00:40:21.900 male

00:40:22.520 westernized

00:40:24.400 construct

00:40:24.940 around

00:40:25.360 who matters

00:40:26.280 in societies

00:40:27.020 and who

00:40:27.540 is elevated

00:40:28.080 and whose

00:40:28.500 voices

00:40:28.840 and so

00:40:29.540 some

00:40:29.760 of these

00:40:30.080 ideas

00:40:30.540 of

00:40:31.020 sort

00:40:31.420 of

00:40:31.480 this

00:40:31.600 radical

00:40:32.080 openness

00:40:32.620 really

00:40:33.300 did not

00:40:33.800 end up

00:40:34.320 with the

00:40:34.640 intention

00:40:35.060 really did

00:40:36.160 not end up

00:40:36.580 living into

00:40:37.160 the intentionality

00:40:38.080 of what

00:40:38.380 openness

00:40:38.740 can be

00:40:39.620 I mean

00:40:41.200 that that

00:40:41.720 just is

00:40:42.220 brilliant

00:40:42.600 right there

00:40:43.300 god bless

00:40:44.800 so look

00:40:45.680 she's

00:40:46.040 explaining

00:40:46.560 at wikipedia

00:40:47.460 they deliberately

00:40:49.120 abandoned a

00:40:50.100 quote free

00:40:50.960 and open

00:40:51.420 approach

00:40:51.780 by the way

00:40:52.220 she's telling

00:40:52.680 you what

00:40:52.900 she's going

00:40:53.180 to do

00:40:53.380 at npr

00:40:53.940 npr

00:40:54.740 is not

00:40:55.240 going to

00:40:55.600 be free

00:40:56.120 and open

00:40:56.460 according

00:40:56.760 to her

00:40:57.080 because

00:40:57.360 she doesn't

00:40:57.900 believe in

00:40:58.480 free and

00:40:58.780 open

00:40:59.000 why

00:40:59.580 because

00:41:00.760 free and

00:41:01.220 open

00:41:01.480 number

00:41:01.700 one

00:41:01.980 she says

00:41:02.480 well

00:41:02.820 that

00:41:03.940 advantages

00:41:04.900 cultures

00:41:05.660 that believe

00:41:06.540 in the

00:41:07.060 written word

00:41:07.760 because you

00:41:08.340 know

00:41:08.580 what good

00:41:09.800 has book

00:41:10.200 learning

00:41:10.480 ever done

00:41:11.000 anyone

00:41:11.340 well heck

00:41:12.180 you're

00:41:13.480 forgetting

00:41:13.940 those cultures

00:41:14.640 that don't

00:41:15.120 believe in

00:41:15.640 that fancy

00:41:16.260 learning

00:41:16.680 stuff

00:41:17.120 like

00:41:17.380 what

00:41:17.900 utter

00:41:18.320 garbage

00:41:18.940 I'm

00:41:19.340 sorry

00:41:19.740 I thought

00:41:20.260 actually

00:41:20.960 a journalistic

00:41:22.840 outfit

00:41:23.340 should actually

00:41:24.320 reflect

00:41:25.700 celebrate

00:41:26.420 the best

00:41:27.920 of

00:41:28.480 education

00:41:29.460 of learning

00:41:30.280 of what

00:41:30.660 we know

00:41:31.120 but she

00:41:31.460 says

00:41:31.640 no no no

00:41:32.040 if it's

00:41:33.880 actually

00:41:34.240 free and

00:41:34.700 open

00:41:34.960 it will

00:41:35.480 recapitulate

00:41:37.440 a white

00:41:38.940 male

00:41:39.360 westernized

00:41:40.080 construct

00:41:41.340 let me ask

00:41:41.940 you something

00:41:42.340 Ben

00:41:42.580 what the hell

00:41:43.040 does that

00:41:43.400 mean

00:41:43.700 seriously

00:41:44.540 those are

00:41:45.260 the words

00:41:45.640 Marxists

00:41:46.140 use

00:41:46.500 and typically

00:41:47.900 the more

00:41:49.280 syllables

00:41:49.800 they use

00:41:50.620 when they

00:41:50.940 get

00:41:51.140 polysyllabic

00:41:52.100 the less

00:41:53.280 they're making

00:41:53.820 any sense

00:41:54.460 so explain

00:41:55.680 to me

00:41:56.040 the phrase

00:41:56.700 recapitulate

00:41:58.580 a white

00:41:59.340 male

00:41:59.780 westernized

00:42:00.600 construct

00:42:01.180 that does

00:42:02.420 not end

00:42:02.900 up living

00:42:03.380 into the

00:42:03.980 intentionality

00:42:04.900 of what

00:42:05.280 openness

00:42:05.680 can mean

00:42:06.360 those words

00:42:07.940 have no

00:42:08.460 content

00:42:09.160 other than

00:42:10.380 I want

00:42:10.900 the power

00:42:11.380 to silence

00:42:11.860 things I

00:42:12.420 don't like

00:42:12.820 am I

00:42:13.040 wrong

00:42:13.300 no you're

00:42:14.120 right

00:42:14.320 and my

00:42:15.000 question

00:42:15.460 goes back

00:42:15.900 to this

00:42:16.280 for you

00:42:16.760 it used

00:42:17.940 to be

00:42:18.620 at NPR

00:42:19.240 and others

00:42:19.580 they would

00:42:19.920 at least

00:42:20.500 fake it

00:42:21.060 like their

00:42:21.660 bias

00:42:22.140 now it's

00:42:23.260 just flat

00:42:23.780 out open

00:42:24.360 and they're

00:42:25.160 doing it

00:42:25.480 with our

00:42:25.680 tax dollars

00:42:26.300 is there

00:42:27.060 ever going

00:42:27.840 to be a

00:42:28.320 day of

00:42:28.820 reckoning

00:42:29.220 where NPR

00:42:29.840 finds out

00:42:30.640 hey good

00:42:31.800 luck do

00:42:32.380 your own

00:42:32.800 thing because

00:42:33.480 we're not

00:42:34.080 going to pay

00:42:34.560 for this

00:42:34.920 propaganda

00:42:35.380 anymore

00:42:36.100 look if

00:42:36.940 NPR cares

00:42:37.780 at all about

00:42:38.280 journalistic

00:42:38.840 integrity if

00:42:39.520 they care

00:42:39.940 at all about

00:42:40.960 continuing to

00:42:41.680 receive taxpayer

00:42:42.460 funds they

00:42:43.040 should terminate

00:42:43.740 Catherine

00:42:44.160 Marr

00:42:44.540 immediately

00:42:45.060 her job

00:42:46.020 should be

00:42:46.380 done they

00:42:46.800 should not

00:42:47.280 have a

00:42:47.760 rabid left

00:42:48.340 wing partisan

00:42:48.940 who hates

00:42:49.820 the first

00:42:50.240 amendment who

00:42:50.740 views it as

00:42:51.320 an inconvenience

00:42:52.040 who wants to

00:42:52.600 censor conservatives

00:42:53.460 who is actively

00:42:54.820 explicitly and

00:42:56.000 unabashedly opposed

00:42:57.280 to free and open

00:42:58.300 communication who

00:42:59.120 doesn't believe in

00:42:59.820 truth who believes

00:43:00.520 truth is an

00:43:01.480 impediment to what

00:43:02.380 she's doing that

00:43:03.180 is not a journalist

00:43:04.040 in any way she

00:43:05.160 ought to go and

00:43:05.860 join Emily's List

00:43:06.640 she ought to go and

00:43:07.380 join the DNC she

00:43:08.380 ought to go run for

00:43:09.100 Congress and become a

00:43:10.560 henchman to Nancy

00:43:11.440 Pelosi she should not

00:43:13.300 actually be running a

00:43:14.640 news organization

00:43:15.540 especially not a

00:43:16.480 news organization

00:43:17.280 funded by the

00:43:18.480 taxpayers and and if

00:43:19.740 we have to be

00:43:21.000 honest

00:43:21.480 if you had a

00:43:22.980 Democrat who had a

00:43:24.000 shred of integrity

00:43:24.820 they would say of

00:43:26.360 course this is not

00:43:27.160 appropriate for her to

00:43:28.000 run NPR the chances

00:43:29.460 of that happening are

00:43:30.340 zero but I can tell

00:43:31.820 you I'm going to be

00:43:32.480 pushing for

00:43:32.960 accountability and I'm

00:43:33.940 going to be pushing

00:43:34.420 for oversight of

00:43:35.220 NPR because it is

00:43:36.740 brazenly shameless

00:43:38.180 for them to put

00:43:39.920 someone so wildly

00:43:41.320 unqualified in that

00:43:42.960 position

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - May 10, 2024

Big Tech Still Silencing Conservatives on Social Media plus NPR New CEO Questions 1st Amendment

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