00:00:55.920This is going to make your stomach turn.
00:00:57.860It's going to make you angry, and as you said, it's going to make you demand accountability.
00:01:02.520We're also going through a rogues gallery in this particular show because we're going to talk about Abdul Al-Sayed, who manages every day to exceed where he was the day before, and then the all-time classic AOC.
00:01:17.780So Fauci, Al-Sayed, and AOC, that's the triumvirate in today's verdict.
00:02:44.640Based on the data that's now being reported
00:02:47.480and the data that was being covered up, that more than 80% of women who had the second shot, apparently,
00:02:54.460this is, again, coming from some of the internal reporting from the vaccine manufacturers,
00:02:59.340as well as doctors, OBGYNs, who are saying that about 80-plus percent were having miscarriages in the first trimester.
00:03:07.480Now, I know some people personally, you do as well, that have gone public on this.
00:03:11.460a dear friend of ours, Meghan McCain, they were going through in vitro and had a miscarriage
00:03:17.180during this period in time. She put it out today that she's furious and believes this is criminal
00:03:22.160and people deserve to go to jail, and she's not the only woman saying this. Well, and what was
00:03:27.000released this week is Senator Ron Johnson, Senator Rand Paul released emails from Dr. Anthony Fauci
00:03:34.920where he recognized that there were real data that suggested that taking the COVID vaccine,
00:03:43.140in particular the second shot, had a significantly enhanced risk of miscarriage. And in fact, look,
00:03:52.280here are the data. The authors claimed a miscarriage rate of 12.6%, but the raw data
00:03:58.980revealed an 82% miscarriage rate in women vaccinated during the first trimester.
00:04:06.460This is consistent with the 81% miscarriage rate noted in the Pfizer 5.3.6 post-market data.
00:04:16.240These figures mirror the effects of chemical abortion drugs such as RU486.
00:04:24.320Can you just read that last line again so people understand?
00:04:27.600the same level read it again i want people to understand what this hat what this is
00:04:33.300these figures mirror the effects of chemical abortion drugs such as ru 486 what this study
00:04:45.660concluded is taking the covid vaccine a woman who was in her first trimester of pregnancy had an 82
00:04:52.780percent chance of having a miscarriage that it had the same effect as taking an abortion drug
00:04:58.400very similar numbers that is shocking that is stunning and and and maybe if you wanted to give
00:05:05.400a tiny bit of grace you might say well they didn't know here's the infuriating thing they knew
00:05:11.980they had these data in front of them and they decided we're gonna lie we're gonna lie i want
00:05:17.620you to listen to the head of the CDC under Joe Biden telling pregnant women to take the COVID
00:05:25.060vaccine and she knew. Give a listen. Importantly, no safety concerns were observed for people
00:05:31.620vaccinated in the third trimester or safety concerns for their babies. As such, CDC recommends
00:05:40.060that pregnant people receive the COVID-19 vaccine. You know what's frustrating, Senator? During that
00:05:46.520time I had on my show Rochelle Walensky actually more than once when they were talking about the
00:05:53.680vaccine and the CDC reached out to many people on radio saying hey can can we come on your show
00:05:59.500can we talk about the vaccine they knew they were lying when they came on shows and there were many
00:06:05.160of us early on that were trusting that they were just trying to get information out this wasn't
00:06:10.980information this is propaganda and lies this was lies and and the email in question was on
00:06:17.700january 25th 2021 so really early on uh dr fauci said i asked around a bit more and another issue
00:06:26.460came up that you need to be aware of since many people have significant cytokine storm and fever
00:06:34.240after the second dose, this theoretically could be associated with miscarriage in the first
00:06:41.460trimester. So he's writing this, and listen, I don't expect scientists to have omniscience.
00:06:47.600There is limited knowledge. During the COVID virus, a lot of people were operating with
00:06:53.320limited knowledge. And if you had Fauci, if you had others saying, listen, we're seeing people
00:06:58.700that are dying from this disease, it's infectious, we don't quite understand it,
00:07:02.100We have this vaccine. It's brand new. It's untested. It may have some positive effects.
00:07:07.840If you are 85 and you have significant comorbidities, it may make sense as a
00:07:13.100cost-benefit analysis for you to choose to take this vaccine. If you are six and a healthy child,
00:07:20.800it makes zero sense for you to take this vaccine because the fatality rate was essentially zero,
00:07:26.200very close to zero for kids. And so if you're rolling the dice, look, if you're dealing with
00:07:31.000people in their 70s or 80s or 90s where you were seeing a significant fatality rate there's a lot
00:07:36.600more risk tolerance to say i'm going to endure some unknown risks because the downside is high
00:07:46.140enough that that cost benefit analysis makes sense that was a rational way to discuss it but
00:07:52.240instead they did not approach this like science they did not say here's what we know here's what
00:07:56.940we don't know and here's how you should assess the risk instead they made it a virtue signal
00:08:02.460you either take this vaccine or you are evil and want people to die and they were willing to force
00:08:08.720you're trying to kill grandmother yes they're willing to force it on babies they were willing
00:08:12.400to force it on little kids they were willing to force it on pregnant women now forcing on pregnant
00:08:17.700women never made sense but i got to admit i i didn't think it made sense without knowing that
00:08:24.620they had testing data. And by the way, Pfizer, what the hell is up with Pfizer? If Pfizer had
00:08:30.100data that showed 81, 82% miscarriage rate for women in the first trimester, let me tell you
00:08:36.960this, Pfizer, they better hire a heck of a lot of defense attorneys right now. Because every mom,
00:08:43.080every dad who lost a baby, who took this vaccine, you are going to see the mother of all class
00:08:49.120actions now unfortunately congress passed yeah i was gonna ask you about that there was a lot of
00:08:55.620protections and liabilities that were given out yeah which then means and the problem with it is
00:09:00.100you don't think people are going to be so evil in that moment if you go back to covid that they
00:09:04.960would actually abuse their power and that protection clearly i i would argue now that
00:09:13.440pfizer and anybody else that was involved here said hey we've already got the protections we
00:09:17.600need from the government. They've given them to us. We want to sell as many as we can. We're not
00:09:21.500going to tell anything anything's bad with us because we don't want anybody to not want to
00:09:24.220take this or ask any other questions because they knew they had the protections. Like that's pure
00:09:28.880evil. Well, and let me say something. Obviously, Joe Biden pardoned Dr. Anthony Fauci, although
00:09:35.400he did it with an auto pen. And so there's an open legal question of whether that pardon is valid.
00:09:40.120And that turns on whether Biden actually knew and made the decision to issue the pardon. If it was
00:09:46.220just a staffer, it's an invalid pardon. But understand, a pardon does not immunize Fauci
00:09:53.000from civil liability, from being sued. And I have to say, look, Ben, you and I are both dads.
00:10:02.680And I have to admit, when I was growing up, I never thought about miscarriages. I didn't really
00:10:07.880know. I will say, you know, you and I are in our 40s and 50s. We have a lot of friends who are
00:10:13.360parents. We have a lot of friends who tried and tried hard to get pregnant. I never knew just how
00:10:20.940common miscarriages are, and when I was a teenager, 20s, it never occurred to me, and I cannot count.
00:10:29.940It's dozens, if not hundreds, of friends of mine who've had miscarriages, and I did not realize
00:10:36.560the frequency with which Heidi and I were blessed. We did not experience a miscarriage. I'm grateful
00:10:42.680for that, but I have a lot of really close friends who did and who cried, who wept, who wanted the
00:10:49.180baby, who lost the baby, who grieved. And the idea that Fauci and others in the Biden administration
00:10:58.140knew, they knew that this was a very real risk to pregnant mothers. And they nonetheless, because
00:11:07.180political ideology mattered more than the health of the baby mattered, more than the health of the
00:11:11.520mother mattered more than anything the virtue signal was their driving political ideology
00:11:18.920i it is if you're not pissed you're not paying attention well and there's another aspect of this
00:11:26.760and the part that made me angry and i really like i i usually am pretty calm on tv you and i are
00:11:32.080doing this at night i i did a hit beforehand if you've ever struggled to get pregnant um we we
00:11:39.720you know this all my kids are i call miracle babies they're they're in vitro we went through
00:11:44.360four years of not being able to get pregnant we went through iuis and everything else and all the
00:11:48.640way down to basically our only shot was in vitro in vitro at the time and for the majority of
00:11:54.680people in this country has never been covered by insurance yeah you're writing hundreds of i say
00:12:01.680thousands of dollars of checks on a weekly basis when you're going through it it is incredibly
00:12:07.260expensive the fact that Fauci and others and Pfizer knew that there are a lot of Americans
00:12:14.120that were and and and me it was a financial burden and strain it was a it was a real strain
00:12:19.860on us because it was I mean you're talking 40 50 grand like after it's when you're going through
00:12:25.820this if it's an 80 percent not only are you having to go through the retrieval and then you're trying
00:12:32.740to get the viability and you get the numbers back and people cry when they don't get what
00:12:37.400they don't get uh what is considered viable right after the retrieval and after the fertilization
00:12:42.200but then you go through the implantation of that and if they knew that we're basically giving you
00:12:48.860a drug that is going to kill what you just tried to create which is equivalent of an abortion pill
00:12:55.460yes bingo that's what fauci was telling every pregnant mom in america to take
00:13:00.160yeah and and if you went through in vitro and you do all of that and you suffer through it and the
00:13:07.520wife and all of the hormones and everything the estrogen of all the things that you go through
00:13:12.380for over a year and then you finally find out you're pregnant and then you go get the covid
00:13:17.880vaccine and then you lose that baby the mental side of it is criminal that they were doing this
00:13:24.640and there are there i'm assuming hundreds of thousands of women that lost their babies
00:13:28.980minimum during this time just in the in vitro world that's why i got so mad on tv because i'm
00:13:34.420like they knew this was happening their doctors and they didn't care look it's infuriating the
00:13:43.100the callousness that that if you're in public office and you don't have a concern
00:13:47.920again let me underscore i i don't expect scientists government officials to have
00:13:54.760perfect knowledge. I don't expect them to be omniscient. But if you have uncertainties,
00:14:00.760you should acknowledge those uncertainties. You should be truthful. You should be honest. And
00:14:05.640for Fauci to know that there were tests showing 82% miscarriage rates with pregnant moms
00:14:15.080in the first trimester, that is a horrifying fact. And I do not understand. The guy was on TV
00:14:23.300more than John Wayne. I mean, he lived on TV. How do you not say, you know what,
00:14:31.160if you're a pregnant mom, especially in the first trimester, you might have to think about
00:14:36.940not having the second shot. There are at least real indications it could be dangerous for your
00:14:43.420baby. That would be an honest thing to say, but it would change Fauci's entire self-image was,
00:14:50.720I am the science. What I decree, I know. And it's an arrogance. Look, and you talk about all the
00:15:00.120families that are struggling through in vitro to have babies, but just think about every mom that
00:15:05.780was pregnant, and all of the babies who their parents desperately wanted to bring them in the
00:15:12.120world who may have been lost because of this. This is, it is sickening, and it's enraging,
00:15:18.860And it demonstrates an arrogance and a callousness that even in this cynical time is really tragic.
00:15:30.540Two final questions on this. One, do you think we will see a new round of questioning specifically on this issue in Congress?
00:15:38.740And the second question I have, which makes me even more concerned, is in the future, when there is a genuine need for public health officials to do something or take serious steps on some sort of disease or something, I am I think now no one's going to ever listen in there in my lifetime again to the to anyone that comes up with some vaccine.
00:16:02.240if there's some terrible thing, because you're going to say, I can't believe you on anything.
00:16:06.720And the erosion of public trust and public health officials is also a real threat to the world, to this country.
00:16:16.160And I worry that, but I'm sorry, like if right now something happened, they said there's a new vaccine.
00:16:20.740I would laugh in their face based on what we're witnessing now in the fallout from COVID.
00:16:26.020Look, it's a real problem that the public trust in science and experts is massively diminished. I want you to listen to this exchange on the Sunday show between Margaret Brennan and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, because it shows the incredible left-wing bias of the media.
00:16:50.220Even now, they're not willing to acknowledge these questions.
00:16:54.220Even now, they're just filled with covering hatred and covering their own rear end for their lies.
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00:18:01.840And again, the whole issue of trust in this country and our science community.
00:18:07.080You were down in Atlanta this past week.
00:18:10.960This is one year since that horrific shooting at CDC headquarters.
00:18:16.220Officer David Rose was honored this past week. He was killed last year protecting CDC employees
00:18:22.500from a gunman. And we should know he was a combat veteran, a United States Marine who had just
00:18:28.720graduated five months prior from the police academy. Three kids left behind. The shooter
00:18:34.460was motivated by misinformation about the COVID vaccine. That is why he shot over 100 bullets
00:18:42.620into the windows of the CDC? Is enough being done to counter this kind of misinformation?
00:18:49.500I mean, I should start with, I got to talk with Officer Rose's wife a few months back.
00:18:55.540One of the first things I did is to honor him and his sacrifice in protecting the people that
00:19:01.680work at the CDC, the amazing people who work at the CDC, was we renamed the street that leads
00:19:06.480into the CDC after him. And it was a really nice event. I'll tell you, the thing is, I want to
00:19:12.180focus on attention on officer rose because i don't i think the shooter did was horrific
00:19:15.620um and i think the you know you could talk about why shooters do things but really fundamentally
00:19:20.900father said he was brainwashed about the covid vaccine and thought it was making him suicidal
00:19:26.160that's what i mean the thing is it's like to talk about the shooter puts the emphasis on somebody
00:19:31.000who's uh i mean i think we shouldn't be putting our emphasis no i am on misinformation about i
00:19:35.860mean i think i think the key the key thing is there's a loss of public trust in public health
00:19:41.100that happened in part because of a lot of frankly even even even on this network and on other
00:19:46.160networks there was a particular single point of view put across during the covid pandemic about
00:19:50.980how you know that led to things that really did cause harm to people the school closures is
00:19:55.260probably the number one thing uh that this is not a productive line of claims we covered
00:20:01.100covid in depth on this program like no other sunday show did i'm not blaming you specifically
00:20:07.620What I'm saying is you want to talk about misinformation, the the the kinds of decisions and sort of the public sort of face of public health during the pandemic led to many people losing trust in public health.
00:20:20.280The Trump administration officials. No, I mean, I mean, like Biden.
00:20:23.520So Biden, for instance, the pandemic began under the Trump administration.
00:20:26.560But just so we're clear, the Biden administration censored me, right?