Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bombshell Voice Recordings of Joe Biden Taking a $5 Million Bribe - and FBI Stonewalls to Cover it UP!

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00:00:05.420 Welcome.

00:00:06.160 It is verdict of Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:08.980 There is obviously the big story of Donald Trump.

00:00:11.780 He has pled innocent to the charges against him.

00:00:15.500 And if you missed our last podcast, we went through the entire indictment.

00:00:20.740 Make sure you go back and listen to that episode so you know what's happening with this indictment.

00:00:25.400 But while this story has taken over the headlines, there's a bigger story that we are going to spend significant time on in the show today.

00:00:33.780 And, Senator, this is one of the most shocking stories to come out of Washington, D.C. in a while.

00:00:39.100 Senator Chuck Grassley revealing that a foreign national allegedly bribed not Hunter Biden, but Joe Biden and has audio recordings of it. 0.86

00:00:49.800 Yes, this is a big damn deal. 0.67

00:00:51.760 And I'll tell you, today in the Capitol, I was arguing with reporters. 0.96

00:00:56.980 They were, of course, obsessed.

00:00:58.460 The only thing they wanted to talk about was the Trump indictment and to say, isn't this horrible?

00:01:03.180 Doesn't this show that he could never possibly serve in any public office again?

00:01:08.080 And I was standing right outside the Senate floor arguing with reporters saying, why are none of you covering the bombshell allegations that came out against the President of the United States?

00:01:21.140 By the way, Donald Trump is not currently the President of the United States.

00:01:25.360 No corporate reporter would acknowledge that.

00:01:28.340 There's a guy named Joe Biden who is the President.

00:01:31.340 And last week we had, number one, a whistleblower come forward and say that there was a confidential informant who told the FBI that Joe Biden received a $5 million bribe personally from a senior executive in Burisma, the Ukrainian natural gas company, in exchange for official conduct.

00:01:55.600 That is a massive bombshell.

00:02:00.560 That is, look, we talked about in Monday's podcast, and if you didn't listen to it, go back and listen to it.

00:02:06.820 We do a deep dive into the Trump indictment.

00:02:09.020 We talked about how the threshold to indict a president should be incredibly high.

00:02:13.820 It shouldn't be for ticky-tack offenses.

00:02:16.260 It shouldn't be for one administration going after their predecessor because they hate them.

00:02:21.740 It should be instead very, very high.

00:02:24.500 Let me tell you what clears that threshold.

00:02:27.760 Real, serious, credible evidence of a President of the United States taking bribes from foreign nationals.

00:02:34.640 That clears the threshold by any measure.

00:02:38.440 The Constitution provides that impeachment shall lie for bribery, treason, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

00:02:47.220 So bribery is explicitly laid out in the Constitution.

00:02:52.360 And then, two days ago, Chuck Grassley on the Senate floor made a stunning allegation.

00:02:59.440 So Chuck Grassley is the only senator that I know of who has read this FBI form documenting what the confidential informant said.

00:03:07.500 And when the FBI gave it to the House of Representatives, they redacted it.

00:03:11.240 They erased key elements.

00:03:12.700 And one of the things they redacted was the allegation that there are 17 recordings demonstrating this bribery.

00:03:24.060 17 recordings, 15 of them with the Burisma official and Hunter Biden,

00:03:31.240 and two of them, shockingly, with the Burisma official and Joe Biden.

00:03:36.880 Now, I don't know if this is true, but if it is true, this should lead the 6 o'clock news.

00:03:43.600 And I want you to listen to Chuck Grassley on the Senate floor laying this out.

00:03:49.280 The 1023 produced to the House committee's redacted reference that the foreign national who allegedly bribed Joe and Hunter Biden allegedly has audio recordings of his conversation with them.

00:04:09.440 17 such recordings.

00:04:12.420 According to the 1023, the foreign national possesses 15 audio recordings of phone calls between him and Hunter Biden.

00:04:24.060 According to the 1023, the foreign national possesses two audio recordings of phone calls between him and then Vice President Joe Biden.

00:04:36.160 These recordings were allegedly kept as a sort of insurance policy for the foreign national in case that he got into a tight spot.

00:04:46.300 The 1023 also indicates that then Vice President Joe Biden may have been involved in Burisma employing Hunter Biden.

00:04:57.480 Senator, you hear that, and this is tradecraft for these oligarchs and corrupt people, right?

00:05:02.260 They want to blackmail you and they want to have something on you, whether you're an oligarch, a shady businessman, whether you're in Russia or China, Venezuela or Ukraine.

00:05:12.980 You want an insurance policy that if someone comes after you, you've got leverage.

00:05:18.320 Something that Jeffrey Epstein apparently did incredibly well is another example of this type of leverage, a.k.a. tradecraft.

00:05:25.040 And that's what Chuck Grassley is saying here.

00:05:27.480 Yes, look, there's a whole lot of substance to unpack from from that statement on on the Senate floor on Monday.

00:05:38.100 Number one, Chuck Grassley, to the best of my knowledge, is the only senator who's read the FBI form 1023.

00:05:46.800 If there's another senator, he or she has not stated that publicly.

00:05:50.600 I have not read it.

00:05:51.460 They they will not give it to me.

00:05:53.540 What is the reasoning behind that?

00:05:54.920 Why can you not see it?

00:05:56.760 But but Chuck Grassley can so people understand the rules.

00:05:59.860 So let me let me delay that.

00:06:02.060 We will get to that.

00:06:03.160 But let me delay that for a second.

00:06:05.480 The House of Representatives heard about the 1023.

00:06:09.640 They wanted to see the 1023.

00:06:12.360 And so James Comer, who's the head of the Oversight Committee, issued a subpoena, got the votes.

00:06:17.960 He had a majority in the House.

00:06:19.120 He got issued a subpoena.

00:06:20.900 Give us the 1023.

00:06:22.000 The FBI stonewalled.

00:06:24.460 They said, no, we won't give you the 1023.

00:06:27.460 The House was on the verge of holding Chris Ray, the director of the FBI, in contempt.

00:06:35.360 Chris Ray blinked and said, OK, we'll give you the 1023, but we'll show it to you in private.

00:06:40.420 Initially, he just showed it to James Comer.

00:06:42.400 And Raskin, the chairman and ranking member of the Oversight Committee, said no one else can see it.

00:06:50.860 Comer came out of that and said the American people need to see this.

00:06:54.920 Chris Ray blinked again and said, OK, the entire committee can see this.

00:06:58.660 But what they saw was a redacted copy.

00:07:02.140 So the FBI, this is not a classified document, but the FBI took and blacked out portions of the report and said, you can't see the things we're redacting.

00:07:12.500 One of the things they redacted.

00:07:14.620 Was the allegation that there are 17 tape recordings.

00:07:19.180 So the House didn't see that.

00:07:21.800 Wow.

00:07:22.060 Now, I got to ask you a question.

00:07:23.460 Why the hell is the FBI hiding?

00:07:27.180 The possible existence of evidence, stone cold evidence of bribery against Joe Biden.

00:07:35.780 Why did they redact out the allegation that there are 17 tape recordings?

00:07:42.520 That is an incredibly good question.

00:07:45.260 And so Grassley was in a unique situation where he had seen this.

00:07:49.460 He had a whistleblower.

00:07:50.940 He saw this and he knew what was in it.

00:07:53.880 And I'll tell you, it is not an accident that Chuck Grassley did this on the Senate floor.

00:07:59.540 He didn't go on Fox News.

00:08:01.360 He didn't go on a on a TV interview.

00:08:03.720 Why?

00:08:05.140 Because, look, he reviewed this 1023 in a restricted circumstance.

00:08:10.520 There may well be people who argue the reason why the FBI is trying to put all these restrictions on it.

00:08:16.180 It's not classified, mind you.

00:08:17.780 So all the laws concerning classified information don't apply.

00:08:20.800 But the FBI is still trying to put restrictions on it because they don't want anyone to know.

00:08:27.040 And so the reason I believe Chuck, who's a good friend, I've served with him 11 years, Chuck went to the Senate floor as the Constitution gives an immunity from any liability for anything said in speech and debate for a senator or representative.

00:08:42.380 And so saying it on the Senate floor, I think Chuck Grassley did that a for attention, but be for legal protection, because these guys are so vicious and politicized that there's a chance they could try to go after him for daring to repeat the truth.

00:08:59.500 So saying it in the hall, he could be held, he could get in trouble with this this rogue DOJ if he sat in the hall walking.

00:09:07.180 Potentially.

00:09:07.580 Look, DOJ would lose, but there would be potentially more exposure by doing it in the Senate floor.

00:09:14.100 It is unquestionably covered in the speech and debate privilege of the Constitution, which gave him a greater ability to say, I know this to be true.

00:09:23.780 And I'll be clear, what does Grassley know?

00:09:26.640 He doesn't know that there are 17 recordings.

00:09:30.380 There might not be.

00:09:32.020 What he knows is that a confidential informant, who the FBI had relied on previously investigations, made an allegation that there are 17 recordings, 15 of Hunter Biden and a corrupt Burisma official,

00:09:48.040 two of Joe Biden and a corrupt Burisma official, all concerning bribing Joe Biden personally.

00:09:56.080 And so Chuck Grassley read that in the FBI form 1023, and he said it on the on the Senate floor.

00:10:02.800 And I want to ask you, look, across the country, there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of listeners to this podcast today.

00:10:12.960 I want you to ask yourself something.

00:10:14.960 Did you see on the news last night, Chuck Grassley's allegation that there are tape recordings of Joe Biden taking a $5 million bribe?

00:10:28.740 Did you see it in the newspaper?

00:10:31.540 Was it the headline today?

00:10:32.980 Think about what city you live in, your local newspaper.

00:10:36.160 What was the headline on the front page?

00:10:38.060 Was it tape recordings of evidence that the president, Joe Biden, took bribes from Ukrainian corrupt official?

00:10:50.540 Was that the headline?

00:10:51.680 And you know what?

00:10:52.420 I'm willing to bet every single listener a verdict.

00:10:56.440 The answer is no.

00:10:57.720 That wasn't your headline.

00:10:59.020 That wasn't on the news.

00:11:00.220 The press won't cover this.

00:11:02.600 And I got to say, even worse than that, the FBI is stonewalling and covering this up.

00:11:09.180 It is shocking to see it.

00:11:10.820 You got to ask some questions about this to some of those in charge.

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00:12:43.980 Senator, you had an opportunity to talk to some of those that are stonewalling.

00:12:49.360 You got to talk to the FBI deputy director.

00:12:54.020 Talk about why he was in front of the Senate before we play some of this.

00:12:57.840 Well, yesterday we had a hearing in the Senate Judiciary Committee, and it was on a totally different issue.

00:13:04.740 It was on Section 702 searches.

00:13:10.080 It's part of the tools that the FBI and law enforcement has to target foreign nationals.

00:13:15.400 And by the way, there is significant evidence that the FBI and DOJ has abused their tools to target foreign nationals to surveil U.S. citizens,

00:13:27.460 and in particular to target January 6th.

00:13:29.800 And it is deeply concerning their abuse of power.

00:13:32.740 So the hearing was important.

00:13:35.060 But given that this was the day after Chuck Grassley had stood up on the Senate floor and told the world that there were allegedly these 17 recordings,

00:13:48.240 I said, listen, I've got the deputy director of the FBI.

00:13:50.740 I'm going to ask him about this.

00:13:51.840 He didn't want to answer this, but he's here.

00:13:54.100 He's under oath.

00:13:55.060 He started this by standing up, raising his right hand, and taking an oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God.

00:14:03.360 And so I took the opportunity to ask him about the 1023 and about the recordings.

00:14:09.800 Give a listen.

00:14:11.840 Gentlemen, every day when I'm home in Texas, I hear from Texans who are deeply dismayed about the growing politicization and weaponization of the Department of Justice and the FBI.

00:14:21.620 If you are not, every one of you should be deeply concerned about the damage being done to the integrity of the institutions in which you operate.

00:14:30.760 My office hears regularly from FBI agents and from assistant U.S. attorneys who are likewise concerned about the politicization and weaponization of the Department of Justice and the FBI.

00:14:43.560 And this is profoundly damaging to the rule of law in our nation.

00:14:47.420 Last month, a whistleblower brought to light the existence in the FBI of a report, an FD 1023, in which the informant alleges that President Biden and his family members engaged in a $5 million bribery scheme during his time as vice president.

00:15:11.760 Deputy Director Abadi, is it true that the FBI has a report making those allegations?

00:15:17.940 I'm not going to comment on that, Senator.

00:15:19.800 And why is that?

00:15:21.320 I'm just not going to comment on information we received, investigations.

00:15:25.420 Do you owe an obligation to the American people to be candid about evidence of corruption by the president of the United States?

00:15:31.140 This is an area that I'm not going to get into with you, Senator.

00:15:34.060 Well, I understand you don't want to.

00:15:35.800 And that's why people are mad at the FBI, because you're stonewalling and covering up serious allegations of evidence of corruption from the president.

00:15:45.440 Yesterday, Senator Chuck Grassley stood on the Senate floor and alleged that there are 17 recordings of this informant from Burisma, Ukrainian natural gas company.

00:15:59.140 Fifteen of them are recordings, voice recordings of him talking to Hunter Biden.

00:16:03.280 Two of them are voice recordings of him talking to Joe Biden, Deputy Director Abadi.

00:16:07.400 Does the FBI have 17 voice recordings laying out evidence of a bribery scheme?

00:16:14.980 Senator, I would add also that we've worked with the House Oversight Committee.

00:16:20.320 Yeah, this is the Senate.

00:16:21.280 We're the other side of the Capitol.

00:16:22.700 This is the Senate.

00:16:23.660 Do you have those 17 recordings?

00:16:25.600 I'm not going to comment on any investigative matters, Senator.

00:16:28.420 See, that's the problem.

00:16:29.440 The FBI, and I've had this conversation with Chris Ray, too.

00:16:32.680 This is why you are damaging the institution.

00:16:35.480 The American people have a right to know whether there is serious, credible evidence that the president of the United States took a $5 million bribe.

00:16:44.000 And by the way, if it's false, Chairman Durbin just rolled his eyes.

00:16:50.980 If Chairman Durbin were interested in the rule of law, we would have a hearing on these allegations.

00:16:56.040 But, of course, the Democrats don't want a hearing on these allegations.

00:16:59.580 And to be clear, if the allegations are false, you know who could disprove them?

00:17:03.140 Joe Biden.

00:17:04.520 He could call for this to be released publicly.

00:17:06.900 But the FBI is stonewalling.

00:17:09.680 They are stonewalling. 1.00

00:17:11.380 And you have senators like Durbin rolling their eyes. 0.85

00:17:14.060 Even the president was asked about this today at the White House.

00:17:17.540 And he stopped, turned, and basically laughed in the face of Americans, Senator.

00:17:22.760 He literally laughed.

00:17:23.920 There was a reporter that was kind of shouting it out at him about, hey, these recordings.

00:17:28.140 He stopped in his tracks, turned around, laughed at the reporter.

00:17:32.340 But in many ways, it's like he's laughing at the American people at the same time.

00:17:37.120 Well, that's exactly right.

00:17:38.820 And the reason Joe Biden can do this, the reason the FBI can do this, is because we don't have a functioning press corps.

00:17:44.560 The world of journalism is so utterly corrupted that nobody's reporting on this.

00:17:52.200 Why didn't you see this on the 6 o'clock news?

00:17:55.340 And let's be clear.

00:17:56.740 What I asked about, it's not classified.

00:17:59.800 But the deputy director of the FBI just said, I'm not going to tell you.

00:18:03.520 No reason.

00:18:04.640 My answer is just no.

00:18:05.880 And to be clear, listen, when I'm asking questions, it's not just because, gosh, I'd like to know.

00:18:13.740 I'm elected by 30 million Texans.

00:18:16.140 I've got a responsibility.

00:18:17.940 When I'm in a hearing, I am doing my damned best to represent 30 million Texans and ask the questions they want to ask.

00:18:28.620 And I'll tell you, I'm hearing from the people of Texas, what the heck is going on with the FBI? 0.75

00:18:34.560 And this FBI deputy director just smugly saying, I'm not going to tell you because I said no.

00:18:40.800 Because no.

00:18:42.540 Look, he is not a fourth grade teacher and we are not the children in his class.

00:18:48.040 The FBI works for we, the people, and they owe an obligation of candor.

00:18:55.220 They have evidence that Joe Biden, the president of the United States, took a bribe.

00:19:02.240 And maybe the evidence is not compelling.

00:19:04.780 Maybe it doesn't prove this.

00:19:08.160 But if it's not compelling, they ought to release it yesterday.

00:19:12.900 And if it is compelling, then you know what the FBI is doing?

00:19:17.600 They're engaged in a cover-up every bit as much as the co-conspirators involved in the bribery.

00:19:25.260 You don't get to cover up.

00:19:26.720 If you've got 17 audio tapes showing the president took a bribe and you bury them and say to Congress, I'm not going to tell you the answer to that. 0.98

00:19:37.440 Piss off. 0.90

00:19:38.240 That was basically his answer. 0.89

00:19:40.240 And let me clarify something. 0.98

00:19:43.040 Look, sometimes when I'm home or online, people will say, well, damn it, Cruz, do something about it. 0.97

00:19:50.420 And I sort of laugh at them. 0.97

00:19:52.660 I'm like, okay, are you confused about how our Constitution operates?

00:19:56.920 So I can't indict anyone under our Constitution.

00:20:01.380 Only the executive branch can indict.

00:20:05.520 That would be Joe Biden.

00:20:07.380 That would be Merrick Garland.

00:20:08.580 That would be the U.S. Department of Justice.

00:20:11.340 I also can issue a subpoena.

00:20:13.040 I would love to issue a subpoena.

00:20:15.040 But in the Senate, to issue a subpoena, it takes a majority.

00:20:20.540 And tragically, the Democrats have the majority in the Senate.

00:20:24.740 Chuck Schumer is the majority leader.

00:20:26.320 Dick Durbin is the chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

00:20:29.420 Dick Durbin has—he literally, as I was talking, and you heard me call it out, he rolled his eyes.

00:20:34.260 He doesn't care if you ask Dick Durbin—and by the way, I asked reporters today, I said, have any of you asked a single Democrat senator if there's conclusive evidence that Joe Biden took a $5 million bribe from a foreign national?

00:20:50.600 Should he be impeached and removed from office?

00:20:52.960 By the way, the answer to that is hell yes.

00:20:55.140 It's the only answer.

00:20:56.580 But no reporter will ask any Democrat that question.

00:20:59.400 And so, without the majority, I can't issue a subpoena.

00:21:03.460 I can't indict anyone.

00:21:05.060 All I can do is what I'm doing right now.

00:21:08.020 Ask in a hearing, shine a light on it, and then, by the way, go on verdict and tell a million people across America about it.

00:21:15.520 And try to ratchet up the attention.

00:21:17.860 Now, I hope the House will issue subpoenas.

00:21:20.380 There is a majority in the House.

00:21:21.540 I'm working very closely with James Comer and Jim Jordan.

00:21:24.920 But we have got to demand accountability and transparency on this serious, serious allegation of a major crime by Joe Biden.

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00:23:56.740 Senator, I want people to hear the second part of this, your back and forth with the FBI deputy director.

00:24:01.900 He was refusing to back down of basically stonewalling you,

00:24:06.100 and you brought out even more information, which they should share with the American people.

00:24:10.220 Would you agree?

00:24:11.880 Two things, Senator.

00:24:12.620 Sure.

00:24:12.760 No one's stonewalling.

00:24:13.740 The 10-23 was provided in response to a subpoena.

00:24:17.740 Okay, then why did you refuse to answer my question?

00:24:19.660 The pertinent information is there, and I reject your assertion that the FBI is politicized.

00:24:23.940 Why did you refuse to answer my question?

00:24:26.440 I just answered your question.

00:24:27.860 Okay.

00:24:28.420 So, yes, you have a 10-23.

00:24:30.040 Do you have the 17 recordings?

00:24:31.360 Yes or no?

00:24:32.640 I'm not going to get further into that.

00:24:34.140 So you're stonewalling. 1.00

00:24:35.100 You can't say I'm not refusing to answer your question, but I won't answer your question.

00:24:39.300 I'm going to answer within the parameters that we operate in.

00:24:42.320 That's the problem.

00:24:43.280 The FBI has right now an unlimited hubris that you believe you are unaccountable.

00:24:50.820 You don't believe you're accountable to the United States Congress,

00:24:54.040 and you don't believe you're accountable to the American people.

00:24:57.580 And you are doing damage.

00:24:59.500 The FBI is a great institution.

00:25:01.400 When I go home to Texas, people ask me, should we abolish the FBI?

00:25:05.920 Now, I tell them no, because you have heroes and patriots working for you

00:25:10.020 that are catching child predators, that are catching terrorists.

00:25:14.540 But you're sitting there happily erecting a wall to protect Joe Biden.

00:25:20.220 Will you provide to this committee, not the House, the Senate Judiciary Committee,

00:25:26.040 will you provide the FD-1023 and will you provide the 17 recordings

00:25:30.420 so we can assess what is the evidence, the specific credible evidence,

00:25:35.840 that Joe Biden personally took a $5 million bribe from a foreign national?

00:25:42.420 Senator, we will work with this committee, you and other members,

00:25:45.840 to provide the information within the parameters of the process.

00:25:49.740 Will you provide the FD-1023, yes or no?

00:25:51.920 I will take that back and we will work with our team.

00:25:54.360 So you're not answering that.

00:25:55.420 Will you provide the 17 recordings?

00:25:57.480 We will take that back and we'll work with you.

00:26:00.040 So you're not answering that either.

00:26:01.880 Did you investigate in any way, shape or form these allegations?

00:26:07.560 Senator, once again, I'm not going to comment.

00:26:09.100 So you're not going to say whether you did your job?

00:26:11.000 We do our job to the very best of our ability.

00:26:14.040 Well, not here.

00:26:14.800 You're not answering a single question to the American people.

00:26:17.500 And you may think this is esoteric.

00:26:19.380 I promise you millions of Americans are concerned.

00:26:23.360 You know who isn't concerned?

00:26:24.580 Not a single Senate Democrat.

00:26:26.140 We're going to go through this whole hearing.

00:26:27.640 Not one Democrat will ask a question about this.

00:26:29.700 You know who else isn't concerned?

00:26:31.160 The corporate media who is joining with the Democrats in covering up this evidence.

00:26:35.620 If Joe Biden is innocent, the evidence should be made public and demonstrate that he's innocent.

00:26:41.280 But if he is not, is it true this informant who alleged that he personally took a bribe

00:26:46.160 was an informant the FBI had relied upon previously in other investigations?

00:26:51.680 Yes or no?

00:26:52.460 In each and every investigation that we have, all the work that we do,

00:26:56.940 the expectation is that every logical avenue of investigation people...

00:27:02.240 I ask you a yes or no question.

00:27:03.700 Are you going to answer it?

00:27:04.740 Yeah, I'm answering your question.

00:27:07.060 Was the informant one you had relied on previously in other investigations?

00:27:11.340 Yes or no?

00:27:12.420 Senator, we run down every piece of information every week...

00:27:15.120 You're not answering it then.

00:27:16.120 You're refusing to answer it.

00:27:16.940 Objectively...

00:27:17.380 So you're refusing to answer the question.

00:27:18.800 To the fullest extent possible...

00:27:20.100 You're refusing to answer the question.

00:27:21.500 ...relentlessly and aggressively in all instances.

00:27:23.920 Senator, you're talking to this.

00:27:24.640 It's disgraceful.

00:27:25.780 It's disgraceful, Deputy Director Abate.

00:27:28.600 Disgraceful.

00:27:29.780 Senator, I mean, there's obviously the surface level here of why he's not answering this.

00:27:34.180 But in reality, deep down, why is he so hell-bent on not answering this basic question about do these tapes exist?

00:27:41.200 Is it because he doesn't know or because he doesn't want you to know or he doesn't want the American people to know?

00:27:48.860 Is this part of the cover-up so that the American people don't know how corrupt?

00:27:53.660 Is this part of the protecting of the President of the United States of America?

00:27:57.000 And all the corruption that they've already helped him cover up?

00:27:59.600 Remember, they're the same ones that when the laptop came in, they wanted to call it disinformation.

00:28:05.080 And it wasn't.

00:28:05.840 They knew it was real.

00:28:07.200 They wanted...

00:28:07.980 When Tony Bobulinski went to the FBI, it was because he went on TV that they finally sat down with him.

00:28:14.760 And then afterwards, not a single person contacted him.

00:28:18.280 So, he absolutely knows the answer to these questions.

00:28:22.160 He's refusing to answer.

00:28:23.840 And to be clear, there's no legal prohibition.

00:28:26.840 This is not classified information.

00:28:29.420 This is not privileged information.

00:28:30.960 This is not attorney-client information.

00:28:33.440 There's no legal prohibition on his answering the questions.

00:28:37.520 The problem is fundamental.

00:28:39.100 And it's what I said.

00:28:40.500 The FBI right now has this hubris.

00:28:43.060 It's this absolute arrogance.

00:28:44.640 It's the same thing the DOJ has.

00:28:46.360 It's the same thing Merrick Garland has.

00:28:48.580 That their view is, we are unaccountable.

00:28:52.100 We're the FB friggin' I.

00:28:54.640 Like, whatever we say, we're in charge.

00:28:58.200 And we decide what to investigate.

00:29:00.180 We decide who to go after.

00:29:01.900 We decide who to show up at the crack of dawn with 20 jackbooted thugs with machine guns and who not to.

00:29:08.860 And you don't get to question us.

00:29:11.300 Congress doesn't get to question us.

00:29:13.140 The American people don't get to question us.

00:29:15.640 We are in charge.

00:29:20.160 And, look, you heard in his questioning.

00:29:24.020 He just said, I asked him.

00:29:25.240 He said, I'm not going to answer that.

00:29:26.500 Why?

00:29:26.840 Because I don't want to answer that.

00:29:27.780 And nobody's going to make me answer that.

00:29:30.700 And the Senate, sadly, that's true.

00:29:32.840 Dick Durbin doesn't care.

00:29:35.140 It's actually worse.

00:29:36.440 Dick Durbin wants him not to answer this.

00:29:39.300 Dick Durbin and the Senate Democrats would be horrified if he answered this.

00:29:43.400 Why?

00:29:44.240 Because they're complicit in the cover-up of Joe Biden.

00:29:47.560 And I want to underscore something.

00:29:50.580 I don't know if these allegations are true.

00:29:54.820 They might be false.

00:29:56.240 Listen, Ukraine has a lot of corruption in it.

00:29:59.160 Maybe, and Burisma has had a lot of corruption in it.

00:30:02.820 Maybe the allegation that there was a $5 million bribe paid to Joe Biden is totally made up.

00:30:07.620 It might be misinformation.

00:30:08.600 If it is, Joe Biden presumably knows that, and he would have to have an incentive to say, let's disprove it.

00:30:16.420 He's not doing that.

00:30:18.080 And the alternative, why does the FBI feel completely at liberty to say, piss off American people?

00:30:31.480 We don't work for you, and we will not answer your questions.

00:30:38.320 That's what the FBI said.

00:30:39.880 And I've got to say, look, Ben, you can tell from that exchange, I was pissed.

00:30:46.420 And I was pissed because it is so destructive to the integrity of the FBI and DOJ,

00:30:53.880 and it's destructive to the rule of law and the Constitution in the United States.

00:30:58.620 What will happen with this, do you think?

00:31:00.780 And will we be able to get, will the House be able to get these tapes if they do exist,

00:31:06.760 if these recordings do exist, will we ever see them?

00:31:10.400 Or as long as the Democrats have control of the Senate and the White House,

00:31:14.760 is this going to be blocked off because the FBI gets to say, guess what?

00:31:18.540 You Republicans have only got one house.

00:31:20.940 You don't have both, and you don't have the White House, so we're going to get away with this.

00:31:25.280 So it's not clear if we'll ever get to see these.

00:31:28.000 What should happen?

00:31:28.900 One, this whistleblower should testify in front of Congress on national television for

00:31:34.800 the American people to hear his allegations to assess, is he telling the truth or not?

00:31:39.920 What should happen?

00:31:41.600 These 17 tape recordings, 15 with Hunter Biden, two with Joe Biden, should be released to the

00:31:48.780 public.

00:31:49.880 They should be played nationally.

00:31:51.840 You should be able to listen to him and determine maybe Joe Biden's innocent or maybe is guilty

00:31:57.060 as hell and took a $5 million bribe, which is what the confidential informant alleges in

00:32:02.680 exchange for government policy.

00:32:04.820 And if he did that, he should be impeached.

00:32:07.300 He should be removed from office.

00:32:08.560 He should be prosecuted and he should go to jail.

00:32:10.560 We talked about the Trump indictment.

00:32:13.660 There should be an exceptionally high threshold for indicting or prosecuting a president or

00:32:20.100 former president.

00:32:20.940 I'll tell you what definitely clears that threshold, a president or former president taking bribes from a foreign national of millions of dollars in

00:32:32.440 exchange for corrupt government official decisions.

00:32:35.900 The Constitution explicitly says impeachment lies for bribery.

00:32:41.260 We ought to push for this.

00:32:43.980 And you ask what's next, to be honest, let me say to everyone listening to this podcast.

00:32:50.560 Frankly, it's in your hands.

00:32:52.880 I'm standing on a mountaintop.

00:32:54.660 I'm screaming.

00:32:55.720 I'm pointing a pointing a light at this.

00:32:57.940 I'm shining a light on this.

00:32:59.320 I'm I'm highlighting it to the American people tonight.

00:33:04.100 Will it be on the six o'clock news?

00:33:06.120 No, because the corporate media is corrupt, which means we've got to be a lot of people.

00:33:11.240 There are a million people that listen to this podcast, Ben.

00:33:14.500 Those million people, every one of you need to go on Facebook.

00:33:18.700 You need to go on Twitter.

00:33:19.660 You need to go on whatever social media you have and you just speak out.

00:33:23.020 Every one of you need to pick up your phone and call your House member and your senator and say, we want an investigation.

00:33:30.520 We want to read the 1023.

00:33:32.320 We want to hear the 17 voice recordings.

00:33:35.940 The only thing that might change this, because I cannot I do not have the ability.

00:33:42.320 I don't have the legal authority right now to indict anyone.

00:33:46.360 I don't have the authority to issue a subpoena to anyone.

00:33:49.960 The only thing that can change this is you and pressure from the American people.

00:33:56.120 Well, that's why we're doing this podcast and why we're focused directly on this issue.

00:34:01.440 You know, it's interesting that you mentioned Grassley and doing this this way a couple of nights before he went on the for the Senate to say what he said.

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00:35:36.900 Lastly, Senator, I want you to hear Grassley.

00:35:38.940 It's interesting to know what he was going to say a few days later.

00:35:42.180 Now, in retrospect, kind of reading between the lines.

00:35:44.920 But he had this to say on Fox just a couple of days before he went to the floor of the Senate.

00:35:48.820 Do you feel like the Department of Justice and the FBI are playing games?

00:35:53.200 Absolutely.

00:35:54.200 Absolutely.

00:35:54.760 Senator, first of all, I want to compliment Congressman Comer because he's been very helpful with working me on this issue.

00:36:05.040 And we wouldn't be where we are with the FBI if he hadn't been involved.

00:36:10.020 So let me answer your question this way.

00:36:12.600 We have an unclassified document.

00:36:15.580 We have what the FBI calls a credible source because they paid this person over years six figures.

00:36:22.760 And I've got a reputation for protecting whistleblowers.

00:36:27.880 And we're going to keep going until we get this document.

00:36:31.140 But, yes, I believe the FBI is covering for President Biden.

00:36:36.720 And the information that's in this is from a credible source, from credible whistleblowers, people that are protected by the whistleblower protection law.

00:36:50.220 And we've just got to get to the bottom of it.

00:36:52.600 And we're not going to give up until we get this document.

00:36:55.240 I love the way he describes us.

00:36:57.140 He says, look, the FBI is a threat to Congress and a threat to Americans.

00:37:03.580 They treat them like second class citizens.

00:37:05.780 Americans is part of what he's saying there.

00:37:08.620 And that's spot on based on what you said as well.

00:37:12.620 No, that's exactly right.

00:37:14.080 They believe institutionally that they don't report to anyone.

00:37:18.280 And listen, part of the genius of our framers, of the founding fathers who drafted the Constitution, is they created a system of checks and balances.

00:37:28.560 James Madison wrote in Federalist 10 about the checks and balances, about pitting different factions against each other.

00:37:35.780 And the idea was, if you have an executive who is overreaching, you'll have a Congress who will check them.

00:37:42.440 If you have a Congress who's overreaching, you have a judiciary who will check them.

00:37:47.080 If you have a judiciary who's overreaching, you'll have a Congress or an executive who will check them.

00:37:52.160 And each of the three branches will be a check on the other.

00:37:54.380 What has happened with the FBI is they've gotten, to use a drug dealer phrase, high on their own supply.

00:38:04.180 They believe nobody can check them, that they are the judge, jury, and executioner.

00:38:12.100 They decide what's acceptable.

00:38:13.860 They decide what's not.

00:38:15.180 They decide if they hate Donald Trump and they will target and persecute him and go after him with everything they've got.

00:38:19.980 They decide if they like Joe Biden and they'll cover up and hide and obfuscate and bury evidence of corruption of Joe Biden.

00:38:26.980 And because they believe they're the final arbiter, when anyone asks them about it, their answer is, no, we're not going to tell you.

00:38:35.220 We don't have to tell you.

00:38:36.300 We don't care to tell you.

00:38:37.320 We don't want to tell you.

00:38:38.320 So, no, Senate Democrats are perfectly willing to let the FBI tell the Senate go jump in a lake.

00:38:45.620 They are so – why?

00:38:47.340 Because they're so partisan.

00:38:49.960 They don't want anyone to know about the evidence about Joe Biden. 0.99

00:38:53.640 They want every question from every reporter to be Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, all about the damn boxes of documents in the bathroom. 0.77

00:39:01.500 Well, you know what, boxes of documents in the bathroom are no worse than boxes of documents in an unlocked garage next to a classic Corvette, which Joe Biden had. 0.91

00:39:12.220 But they're also both orders of magnitude less concerning than credible evidence that the president of the United States took a bribe from a foreign national.

00:39:24.900 And I got to say, FBI leadership, every step they're taking to Stonewall is exactly, as I said at the end of that exchange, disgraceful.

00:39:35.300 Yeah, no doubt about it.

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - June 14, 2023

Bombshell Voice Recordings of Joe Biden Taking a $5 Million Bribe - and FBI Stonewalls to Cover it UP!

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