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52 minutes

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182.20975

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9,476

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678

Misogynist Sentences

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Hate Speech Sentences

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:04.300 Welcome, everybody.
00:00:05.720 Tuesday edition of Clay and Buck.
00:00:08.840 And it's 100 days of Trump into this second term.
00:00:13.980 100 days of Trump.
00:00:15.660 Absolutely fantastic stuff to talk about here.
00:00:19.580 We will dive into all of the latest with the Trump administration,
00:00:24.000 but also take a look at what has gone on so far.
00:00:27.840 It has been transformative.
00:00:30.600 It has been fast and furious, and it is just the beginning.
00:00:34.980 So we want to take a moment here to see how it has been and will be on Trump 2.0.
00:00:42.660 And we'll take your calls on this, obviously,
00:00:45.040 and have a free-flowing conversation about the wins and the challenges left to be tackled.
00:00:53.340 We've also got J.D. Vance, Vice President Vance.
00:00:56.380 Clay and I both will have to try not to call him J.D.
00:00:58.840 because we've known him as J.D. for years.
00:01:00.700 But now he is Vice President Vance.
00:01:03.240 He will be with us.
00:01:04.460 We did an interview with him, second hour of the program.
00:01:07.500 So definitely want to tune in, talking about all the big stuff going on right now,
00:01:14.400 everything from men and women's sports to tariffs to the border to Trump 2.0.
00:01:21.440 So definitely second hour, diving into that, looking forward to that conversation for all of you.
00:01:29.800 And we have more to look at here on the sports side of things.
00:01:36.500 Clay, the Philadelphia Eagles went to the White House, which is very nice.
00:01:40.360 They had a nice time, from what I understand.
00:01:41.960 The Canadian election didn't exactly go the way we wanted it to.
00:01:46.800 Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, we won't spend too much time on this
00:01:50.360 because, well, very few of you live in Canada, so not really our problem.
00:01:54.160 There are some.
00:01:55.060 We have some Canadian listeners, but generally...
00:01:58.960 I don't know anything about Canadian politics.
00:02:01.600 We talked some about Pierre Polyev because he had a couple of viral videos.
00:02:06.320 But once Trump won, I've got to be honest with you,
00:02:10.540 my interest in what happened in America's top hat really kind of vanished.
00:02:14.300 I feel bad for Canadians stuck behind enemy lines, but we're kind of rolling here,
00:02:20.540 so it's hard for me to get too worked up about what happens in Canada.
00:02:23.880 I think that's probably the general perspective.
00:02:25.740 But we do have empathy for those of you, A, that are stuck above the border
00:02:30.460 dealing with chaos and insane leadership.
00:02:33.520 They didn't learn the lessons of Trudeau painfully enough.
00:02:37.900 This is what you see in microcosm in places...
00:02:41.260 Well, actually, I think California has more people than Canada,
00:02:44.240 but this is what you see in places like California,
00:02:46.420 where even when there's tremendous mismanagement,
00:02:49.380 you have Democrats who double and triple down on the madness.
00:02:53.360 Well, the liberals, the leftists in Canada,
00:02:56.740 doubling and tripling down on the madness.
00:02:58.360 They want everything to be dysfunctional.
00:03:00.200 They want to have sky-high housing prices and an anemic economy and all these things.
00:03:06.720 Okay, they want to have bad health care that they tell themselves is great
00:03:10.000 because it's free, but actually it's not free at all.
00:03:12.200 It's very expensive when you add the time and the cost and the inability to get care.
00:03:17.280 But like I said, Canada, not our problem.
00:03:20.140 Not going to be the 51st state either, so who cares?
00:03:23.200 Well, we care a little bit, but we don't care that much.
00:03:25.180 Now, 100 days of Trump and some exciting things going on.
00:03:30.780 Let's take it first to this cut to Caroline Levitt talking about what some of the top-line numbers are
00:03:38.440 for this first 100 days of Trump 2.0.
00:03:42.040 Play it.
00:03:42.700 So far, total investment commitments under the Trump administration have reached more than $5 trillion,
00:03:47.960 including $500 billion from Apple in U.S.-based manufacturing and training,
00:03:53.300 $500 billion from NVIDIA in AI infrastructure,
00:03:56.720 $100 billion from TSMC in U.S.-based chips manufacturing,
00:04:00.360 and the $500 billion private investment by OpenAI, Oracle, and SoftBank in AI infrastructure as well.
00:04:07.780 All of these investment commitments are estimated to generate at least 451,000 new high-paying jobs
00:04:15.200 for American workers and families.
00:04:17.960 At this point, President Trump has secured more investments in the United States of America
00:04:22.360 in 100 days than Joe Biden did in four years.
00:04:27.240 Trump is a dealmaker, as we know, Clay, and we'll talk more about tariffs.
00:04:30.980 We'll ask J.D. Vance about that, too.
00:04:32.820 But in terms of the economy being open for business in this country,
00:04:37.220 and particularly look at things like going to maximize, trying to maximize energy production,
00:04:43.760 going after our own resources, a lot to be proud of so far in 100 days.
00:04:49.920 Totally.
00:04:50.700 And some people are going to say, because the negative, given that we're at 100 days,
00:04:55.300 is going to be, hey, let's look at the polling numbers.
00:04:57.960 Here's what I would say about the polls.
00:05:00.480 First of all, I don't really care.
00:05:03.200 And you might say, okay, what do you mean by that?
00:05:05.860 Trump is not going to be eligible to run for re-election.
00:05:09.500 So I suspect that by the time Trump's term is coming near an end,
00:05:16.140 that he will be on a popularity upswing, like we saw with Barack Obama and with Bill Clinton, by and large.
00:05:25.200 Did you sign on to this, Buck, that the only two two-term presidents that could have been re-elected
00:05:32.820 if they had been able to run would have been Bill Clinton in 2000 and Barack Obama, I think, would have won in 2016.
00:05:47.560 Now, maybe not.
00:05:48.420 I also think Ronald Reagan, if he had been able to run in 1988, even with his advanced age, would have likely won too.
00:05:57.620 I think Trump will be at his peak popularity.
00:06:00.920 Here's a three-year-in-advance prediction.
00:06:04.340 Trump in the fall of 2028 will be at peak popularity because the impact of his trade agreements
00:06:14.160 and of his economic policies will be flourishing at a high level.
00:06:18.940 I think we will have peace.
00:06:20.500 And I think that if Trump were eligible to run for a third term, that he would win again in 2028.
00:06:28.980 So I think it's very early.
00:06:31.400 Very early.
00:06:31.900 We've heard a lot of historical, a lot of, we can't test the thesis one way or the other.
00:06:37.060 I think Bill Clinton is incredibly lucky as a politician.
00:06:41.720 The luck that that guy had on a whole range of things.
00:06:45.660 But if he had been in office when 9-11 actually happened,
00:06:48.740 the straight line between him being an imbecile on foreign policy and missing every chance
00:06:52.840 and us getting hit with the worst attack since Pearl Harbor would have been irrefutable even for Democrats.
00:06:58.180 Also, the stock market crash.
00:06:59.860 Also, a lot of things.
00:07:01.300 This guy got out just in time.
00:07:03.380 But don't you disagree that he would have won?
00:07:04.980 I think he would have beaten George W. Bush.
00:07:08.140 I don't know.
00:07:09.640 I don't know.
00:07:10.580 I think he would have won.
00:07:11.620 I think Reagan would have won in 88.
00:07:13.360 This is an argument in favor of the not-
00:07:15.480 I love Reagan.
00:07:16.120 Reagan would have been too old at that point.
00:07:19.100 That would have been a problem for him.
00:07:20.200 I think he would have won because the only reason that George Bush Sr. won
00:07:25.280 was because Reagan was so beloved and obviously Dukakis was not a candidate.
00:07:29.080 You don't think Ronald Reagan would have beaten Dukakis in 88?
00:07:32.560 Even old Reagan?
00:07:33.680 He would have won.
00:07:34.220 I mean, if you're throwing in the mix who he's going up against.
00:07:38.160 Barack Obama running against Donald Trump, I actually don't think Barack Obama would have won.
00:07:42.680 I think Trump would have won.
00:07:43.900 I think he would have won that election.
00:07:46.500 I think that Obama would have beaten Trump in 16.
00:07:49.280 Well, you and I disagree vociferously on that.
00:07:53.360 Remember Hillary?
00:07:54.720 First of all, I don't think Trump would have been the nominee necessarily, but Hillary came
00:07:59.500 within whatever it was, 80,000.
00:08:01.120 Hillary was an awful candidate, right?
00:08:04.060 Awful candidate.
00:08:05.120 She was-
00:08:06.360 I mean, even Democrats looking back, they're like, man, you know, she just-
00:08:10.520 I don't know who she would have been able to beat.
00:08:12.660 I think Trump was a great candidate against her, ran a phenomenal campaign, but I actually
00:08:17.900 think the best campaign Trump ran was 24 of his three election campaigns.
00:08:24.220 16 was phenomenal.
00:08:25.760 I think he was so well-schooled by 24.
00:08:30.140 16 was more haphazard.
00:08:31.680 I think that this one was great.
00:08:34.380 Again, we're 100 days in.
00:08:35.800 16 was insurgency.
00:08:38.060 He was the insurgency against the machine.
00:08:41.860 And just like happens sometimes in real life, the insurgency overcame the superior force in
00:08:47.220 terms of battlefield operations.
00:08:49.240 And then in 24, it was the comeback campaign.
00:08:53.580 So the great American comeback, which-
00:08:56.000 So the narratives, I think, were pretty clear in both of those.
00:08:59.620 And then 2020 was the COVID, you know, freak show, what the hell is going on campaign for
00:09:04.480 everybody.
00:09:05.540 And I know all the other stuff, quote unquote shenanigans.
00:09:09.820 We won't talk about it right now.
00:09:11.360 But anyway, Clay, I think that Trump's first 100 days-
00:09:14.680 Here's what we have to remember about it.
00:09:18.100 We wanted him to do the things.
00:09:19.980 We want him to do the things that he promised to do.
00:09:21.960 And some of those things are disruptive.
00:09:24.040 And disruptive things can be a little bit off-putting sometimes to the markets.
00:09:29.740 It can feel a little bit-
00:09:31.720 It can create a little bit of anxiety among people because, oh, wait, it's not exactly-
00:09:36.320 Status quo is comfortable.
00:09:38.140 This is why so often, and particularly in politics, I think, people get into inertia.
00:09:43.820 Well, this is the way it is, so this is the way it will be.
00:09:46.040 This is the way we've done things, so let's keep doing it that way.
00:09:49.620 Trump isn't running again.
00:09:50.740 I know he jokes about the third term.
00:09:52.400 That's the troll libs.
00:09:53.380 It's like the 51st state, Canada.
00:09:54.960 That's the troll, you know, Canada and Trudeau and the rest of them.
00:09:58.740 Clay, he's not running again.
00:10:00.580 We need him to do the things that a politician who's obsessed with his next election won't do.
00:10:06.720 Yes.
00:10:07.240 And this is what is so key.
00:10:09.520 That's why I'm saying the polling I'm not focused on.
00:10:12.540 If he were trying to run for re-election, I think you'll look at polling and you think about how that's going to play out.
00:10:18.460 He is uniquely liberated to do what he thinks the right results are without having to worry about the day-to-day polling.
00:10:26.140 And by the way, that is potentially going to run out in 2026 when they're likely going to impeach Trump again if Democrats take back control of the House.
00:10:37.420 They don't have anything new to hit him with.
00:10:40.120 So expect for them to go back to the tried-and-true failed methods of the past.
00:10:46.080 We've already seen it with them trying to broadcast and attack him by saying he's Hitler.
00:10:50.860 I think where we are likely headed is Trump has got to get everything done between now and the summer of 2026.
00:10:59.140 And then we will see the House come down to five or six different really close races.
00:11:06.040 And Democrats are either going to have a tiny minority or Republicans are going to have a tiny majority, right, tiny leadership.
00:11:14.060 I think that we're going to see in the Senate good stuff.
00:11:18.240 Republicans are going to maintain control of the Senate.
00:11:20.620 So for judges, things like that, Trump is going to have four years to get his view of the judiciary through, get as many different judges confirmed.
00:11:30.760 But in order to have both control of the House and the Senate, he's got to be fast.
00:11:36.580 He's got to be decisive.
00:11:37.960 And I think that's what you're seeing right now.
00:11:40.240 And sometimes that's going to make people a little bit upset.
00:11:43.320 So that's why I'm not concerned about any of the polling to the extent it's accurate as we sit here at 100 days because he's making decisions that are multi-years in nature.
00:11:51.840 Well, yes, and this is why I want Trump to not care about the polls right now because the polls in a year, as they pertain to the midterms and the Republican Party in its future, will matter.
00:12:03.860 The polls right now do not matter at all.
00:12:05.960 In fact, all the polls really do is give a talking point to anti-Trump media and the Democrat Party that want to create a perception of, oh, this isn't working.
00:12:18.780 Oh, this is failing.
00:12:20.180 Trump should not be doing the things that he's doing.
00:12:23.500 He's doing what he promised to do when he ran.
00:12:27.180 He said he would take on the tariff issue.
00:12:29.640 He said he would get a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.
00:12:32.920 He said he'd secure the border.
00:12:34.440 You know, I could go down the whole list.
00:12:35.640 He's doing the things he said he would do.
00:12:37.840 Some of these things are, as we've said, a departure from the status quo.
00:12:42.900 They are disruptive.
00:12:43.640 And so, Clay, by their very nature, they're going to create a little bit of friction and a little bit of uncertainty.
00:12:49.340 If you don't want that, you don't want change.
00:12:52.320 You don't want someone to fix anything.
00:12:53.980 You just want more of the same.
00:12:55.800 I think we all need to remember that.
00:12:57.920 The first 100 days has been A-plus overall.
00:13:02.080 It's not perfect.
00:13:03.120 Nothing ever will be.
00:13:04.240 And there's no certainties.
00:13:06.180 There's no guarantees in life.
00:13:07.840 But he's doing what he said he would do.
00:13:10.500 And I think he should have our full support as he continues to pursue that mandate.
00:13:14.720 If he had veered off into nonsense, I'd be saying, why did he veer off into nonsense?
00:13:18.480 That's not what has happened.
00:13:19.420 I also think, and we'll talk about this more, the next 100 days or so are set up to be incredibly consequential.
00:13:25.900 Hopefully, we get some form of resolution in Ukraine, more resolution in Gaza.
00:13:32.640 And again, inflation, which to me, I'll hit you when we come back, Buck, with what the American public, from an economic perspective, is most focused on.
00:13:40.580 And inflation is at four-year lows.
00:13:44.740 To me, that is the number one laser focus after Biden took us over 9%.
00:13:50.580 People still feel like things cost more than they should.
00:13:54.840 Tomorrow evening, Israel begins celebrating their own Independence Day.
00:13:58.420 77th anniversary as a nation, and like our Independence Day, it should be a celebration.
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00:14:06.480 For the majority of people living in Israel freedom, nothing more than a daily struggle just to survive.
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00:14:34.280 I saw all the work that the fellowship does when I was in Israel during December.
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00:15:54.120 Clay and Buck here, 100 days of the Trump-Vance administration.
00:15:59.540 And we are joined now by Vice President J.D. Vance.
00:16:02.240 And we're going to get into all the successes, the border, and more.
00:16:05.520 But, J.D., I don't know if you've answered this question.
00:16:08.400 But on the first day of your administration, Ohio State won the national championship against Notre Dame.
00:16:14.720 But you had a ton of obligations as the newly inaugurated vice president.
00:16:19.380 Do you have, like, an official Buckeye guy who was following you around that day, giving you updates during the course of the game?
00:16:27.180 I know you're a big fan.
00:16:28.300 I've actually wondered about it that night.
00:16:30.620 I don't know if you've answered it.
00:16:32.160 If my University of Tennessee ever gets back in the title game, I would be terrified to miss any of it.
00:16:39.000 What was your play there for national title game day as a Buckeye?
00:16:42.980 Yeah, there are a couple different things going on.
00:16:44.720 So, first, I actually talked to my team about whether it would be possible to skip the inaugural balls so that I would be able to go to the game.
00:16:55.300 And actually, you know, I guess we'd get inaugurated, we'd go to a few parties, and then I'd be able to watch the game while the president took care of the inaugural balls.
00:17:02.820 The team was not a huge fan of that.
00:17:04.380 Apparently, it would have been unprecedented for the vice president to skip the inaugural balls the night of the inauguration.
00:17:09.960 What we were able to do, though, is before the first ball, I actually had all of my friends and family, we got basically, we turned a big hotel room into a sports bar.
00:17:21.300 And so I was able to watch the first quarter before the first ball.
00:17:24.940 And I think it was either right after the second or the third ball, Notre Dame started to come back a little bit.
00:17:31.220 And so I sat in a room with like a 19-inch TV and just sort of watched the Buckeyes put it away.
00:17:36.880 So I got to see a little bit of it, man.
00:17:39.220 But, yeah, it's on the one hand, like, what a cool day for an Ohio State fan to be inaugurated as a vice president and have your team win the national championship.
00:17:48.040 On the other hand, it was sad to miss most of the game.
00:17:50.380 But, you know, official duties come first.
00:17:52.900 J.D., I was also happy to see Vice President Vance.
00:17:55.800 Very happy to see my beloved Buckeyes do so well.
00:17:58.740 Well, I want to ask you about the border, if I can, and what's going on with the administration on, well, let's get into the next steps.
00:18:07.440 The good news is you can sit here and tell us, but Clay and I have been telling everybody about this so far.
00:18:11.800 The border is secure, a 95% drop.
00:18:14.000 The stats speak for themselves.
00:18:15.440 Biden kicked the border wide open.
00:18:16.720 It was a choice.
00:18:17.400 Trump has actually secured the border.
00:18:19.180 Fantastic.
00:18:20.100 We still have millions and millions of illegals who came in under Biden.
00:18:24.180 What should we expect from the perspective of building on the border's successes so far in the next 6 to 12 months?
00:18:33.000 Yeah, well, obviously, we know we have to ramp up deportations.
00:18:36.040 And the president talks about this all the time, both in public and private.
00:18:40.320 It's something that I'm very focused on.
00:18:42.760 And a lot of this comes down to, I mean, it turns out we've got to do some battle with some really crazy far-left judges
00:18:49.260 in order to allow the administration to do what it actually needs to do.
00:18:54.800 And I will say, to great credit, the president expected this.
00:18:58.300 When we came in, he said, you know, we're going to start deporting people,
00:19:01.160 and a lot of these far-left judges are going to stop us, and there's no way out of it but through it.
00:19:05.800 And we're just going to have to battle.
00:19:07.380 We're going to have to win the court cases.
00:19:08.700 We're going to have to take some of this stuff all the way to the Supreme Court.
00:19:11.380 And we're going to have to find alternative ways to deport people when the judges say you can't do this method.
00:19:18.080 We're going to have to find another method.
00:19:19.260 So we recognize that we're dealing battle here, doing battle with basically a massive bureaucracy
00:19:25.100 that has decided that it rules the country rather than the American people.
00:19:29.100 And I think one of the biggest takeaways of the 100 days is, yes, we've got a lot of successes.
00:19:33.960 We've also revealed ways in which this deeply entrenched bureaucracy tries to fight the will of the American people.
00:19:40.680 And thank God we've got a vice president and a president who are pushing back against it.
00:19:44.620 And that's exactly what we told the American people we would do.
00:19:47.460 That's exactly what we're doing.
00:19:49.160 But I think that is really the biggest focal point of immigration policy over the next 6 to 12 months
00:19:55.400 is to empower all of the people in the administration from Tom Homan and Kristi Noem
00:20:00.820 to the Border Patrol agents on the ground to do their job and to get a lot of these people out of our country.
00:20:07.320 Now, that said, we have had great success, but we're not resting on our laurels here.
00:20:12.040 We're shutting down the border traffic coming into the country,
00:20:15.340 and we're dealing with what Biden left us simultaneously.
00:20:18.540 That's exactly what we have to do.
00:20:20.100 You're not only an Ohio State grad, you're also a Yale law grad.
00:20:23.500 And you just talked about where the resistance 2.0, I would say, is coming from.
00:20:28.440 Largely, the 600-some-odd district court judges who are regularly putting in place nationwide injunctions.
00:20:36.240 What's a fix to that?
00:20:38.080 And are even you surprised by how aggressive the judiciary has been to try to strip the president's executive authority?
00:20:46.160 You know, I'm not surprised by it because, again, the president actually expected this.
00:20:49.900 He told us this would happen.
00:20:51.360 And, you know, he felt, and I think he was right about this, that, you know, the left felt defeated in a certain way,
00:20:58.780 that there were a lot of, you know, grassroots activists that just weren't nearly as fired up in 2024 as they were in 2016.
00:21:06.440 And he's talking about people on the far left.
00:21:08.580 But he said that, look, the courts are going to try to stop everything that we do.
00:21:11.860 And it's actually not just immigration.
00:21:14.660 I mean, the courts have tried to stop Pete Hegseth from not allowing, you know, transgender military personnel to continue serving.
00:21:23.380 They've done a lot, I mean, which goes to the heart of military readiness, right?
00:21:26.820 The Secretary of Defense saying that, you know, if you're dealing with a serious mental health issue, our compassion goes with you,
00:21:32.940 but you can't be deployed to the battlefield.
00:21:35.940 Like, that is the heart of the president and the Secretary of Defense's authorities.
00:21:39.800 And so you have these district courts who really want to run the country and have decided that they are actually in charge of the United States of America.
00:21:48.620 There's this very funny, I think, headline from the Babylon Bee that was, you know, something like,
00:21:53.860 Donald Trump considers resigning to become a very powerful district court judge.
00:21:57.580 But it's one of these jokes with a kernel of truth, which is that the district courts in this country have tried to take upon themselves powers that belong to the president of the United States.
00:22:08.760 And it's funny, guys, you know, you hear the media and they'll say, well, this is a constitutional crisis.
00:22:13.700 And the constitutional crisis is not Donald Trump refusing to allow the district courts to govern the country.
00:22:20.980 The crisis is the district courts trying to govern the country.
00:22:24.420 And our approach is we're fighting it legally.
00:22:27.600 Of course, we're taking some of these cases to the Supreme Court and we think we're going to get success there.
00:22:32.120 We're finding alternative methods to do what we need to do in compliance with the law.
00:22:37.260 And we're just going to have to keep on fighting this, you know, day by day, figuring out where the district courts and to be clear, it's not all district courts.
00:22:45.660 It's the far left crazies.
00:22:47.100 But when these far left crazies stop in and try to prevent the president from doing his job, we've got to do it through alternative means.
00:22:53.420 And that's what we're trying to do.
00:22:54.640 We're speaking to Vice President Vance and Mr. Vice President.
00:22:57.720 Let me ask you about how things are going at this stage with not just identifying the waste, fraud and abuse within the government, a big mission that Doge has taken upon itself.
00:23:08.400 But what we can expect now, how much of this do you think has been completed when you look at Elon and Doge's mission?
00:23:17.260 Does Congress have to play a major role with rescissions?
00:23:20.280 Essentially, we know there's a lot of shenanigans going on, but how do we actually get the shenanigans in government spending to stop?
00:23:26.700 Where are we on that?
00:23:28.200 Yeah, I think we're making a lot of progress.
00:23:29.660 I wouldn't say that it's done by any means.
00:23:32.020 And, yes, Congress has a role because here's what happens.
00:23:35.140 If Doge and Elon find $10 billion of spending that's just ridiculous, that's not consistent with the law or with the administration's policy priorities, that money just kind of sits there.
00:23:46.480 And so it's still been taxed from the American people.
00:23:49.260 And if we want to use it to pay down debt or to give it back to the American people through tax relief, then that does require an act of Congress.
00:23:56.240 And I think Congress is very willing to do it.
00:23:58.340 But I don't know if you saw, I think it was today or maybe yesterday, a report came out that Treasury actually is borrowing less money than they expected to borrow.
00:24:07.180 And I think that's because of the success of Doge.
00:24:09.400 You're seeing them make meaningful cuts in some of these crazy foreign aid programs.
00:24:14.280 But I also think they're finding a lot of fraud in programs that are meant for American citizens that are going either to illegal aliens or to complete fraudsters.
00:24:23.240 And so I think Doge is making a lot of progress, but it's not done.
00:24:27.400 And I don't think it's ever going to be truly done, right?
00:24:29.420 This is one of these problems that we have to continually fight against.
00:24:33.040 And the reason why it was such a shock to the system is we had allowed the waste and the fraud to become so endemic in the way that we did government in this country.
00:24:42.140 And I don't think we should ever go back.
00:24:43.760 And I actually do think, and maybe this is too optimistic, that when all the political controversy is cleared, we look back on this a few years from now, we're going to realize that Doge saved the American people a lot of money, that it cut a lot of fraud out of our government, and that even some Democrats are going to say,
00:25:01.160 Well, we have to keep doing this because we can't just let hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud every single year become part of how the U.S. government functions.
00:25:10.120 We're talking to Vice President J.D. Vance.
00:25:12.500 You guys have made tremendous strides with young men.
00:25:15.820 The data continues to reflect that young men are breaking for both you and Donald Trump in big numbers.
00:25:21.600 I think a big part of that is because young men are over this idea of men being able to play women's sports.
00:25:27.560 I can't believe this is even a thing.
00:25:29.400 Nike, you may have seen, recently paid for a study on minors to study trans drugs and how it might impact athletics.
00:25:41.360 How did the world get so broken here?
00:25:43.800 What are companies like Nike even trying to accomplish?
00:25:47.040 And this feels like an 80-20, 90-10 issue for Americans.
00:25:51.220 Do you feel that when you're out and about?
00:25:53.000 I do feel that.
00:25:54.860 I definitely think it's a winning political issue for the Republican Party because it's just basic common sense, right?
00:26:00.960 I mean, people don't want women competing against grown men in sports, especially in some of these contact sports where the women could get injured.
00:26:10.140 You know, I'm the father of a three-year-old daughter.
00:26:12.580 I'd like her to play sports.
00:26:13.900 I think it teaches valuable life lessons, but I don't want her competing against grown men when she does it.
00:26:18.240 And this is just, again, it's basic common sense.
00:26:21.000 I think it's the basic masculine instinct to protect young women.
00:26:24.780 And one of the ways you do that is to not let, you know, a male boxer in the room with a female boxer.
00:26:30.540 Just things like that I think have turned it into a 90-10 issue, that basic common sense.
00:26:34.980 But, man, I think that so many of these companies, Nike or otherwise, they got caught up in this cultural zeitgeist of 2020, 2021.
00:26:43.960 And it's like, I don't know, maybe they just thought the progressives were going to win.
00:26:48.460 And so they decided to fund this stuff to the hilt, not realizing that the American people would have a rebellion against the craziness.
00:26:55.140 I think that rebellion on the trans issue in particular, I mean, think about this, giving hormonal therapies to 12-year-old kids, causing irreversible damage to their bodies, forcing young girls to compete against boys in sports, sometimes causing serious injury in the process.
00:27:11.400 I think this issue is such a bad loser among the American people that even some of the true believers have dropped it as a political issue.
00:27:20.600 But I think it's our job to remind the American people this is what they've tried to do.
00:27:25.920 This is what they're promising to do.
00:27:28.000 The trans issue hasn't gone away.
00:27:30.520 You just had some Democrats who are smart enough to recognize it's a political loser.
00:27:34.780 But, yeah, they're going to try to force 12-year-olds to take cross-sex hormones, and they're going to try to force young girls to compete against young boys if we give these guys power.
00:27:43.380 The craziness, in other words, hasn't gotten away.
00:27:46.000 They've just gotten a little bit better at hiding it.
00:27:47.920 Mr. Vice President, one more for you.
00:27:49.640 I appreciate you making the time for us today.
00:27:51.620 The tariffs issue is something that has gotten a lot of attention on this show across the country for obvious reasons.
00:27:58.340 People are very attuned to what the Trump negotiations with these countries and his approach to China is doing to the economy, the market, prices, everything.
00:28:09.320 Wall Street Journal being a little salty about it today on their front page.
00:28:13.420 What do you say to anyone who is trying to steer Donald Trump away from this course because they're a little nervous about the tariff situation?
00:28:21.860 So I've had so many conversations, guys, in private with the president about this, and I think his public statements, I mean, going back to the 1980s, this is an issue that he feels very deeply about.
00:28:32.640 I happen to think that he's right.
00:28:34.460 He campaigned on it.
00:28:35.820 The American people elected him on it.
00:28:37.540 And there's a lot of misinformation out there.
00:28:40.400 There's a lot of people saying, well, Donald Trump doesn't know what he's actually doing.
00:28:43.800 Look, I promise you, I've spent many hours discussing these issues with Donald Trump.
00:28:48.980 You can disagree with him, but he knows exactly what he's doing.
00:28:51.980 And here's the fundamental problem.
00:28:54.340 America doesn't produce enough of its own stuff.
00:28:57.740 That is the issue.
00:28:58.700 We don't have enough manufacturing in our own country.
00:29:02.020 We're too reliant on sometimes hostile foreign powers to make the things that we need.
00:29:07.620 And that's true in electronics.
00:29:09.100 It's true in technology.
00:29:10.300 It's true.
00:29:10.720 And God forbid, you know, we've had shortages of critical pharmaceuticals in this country over the last few years.
00:29:16.760 We cannot have a real, successful, prosperous country if we're dependent on the communist Chinese for the drugs that we put into the bodies of our children.
00:29:26.900 And so what the president has said here is, yes, this is going to be disruptive.
00:29:31.820 Yes, this is going to require some transition.
00:29:33.960 But he's fundamentally committed to the basic process of manufacturing more in the United States, creating good-paying jobs in the process, but more fundamentally making America more self-reliant.
00:29:44.360 And I think the problem is that we had a bipartisan consensus in this country for 40 years that we could just ship all of our heavy industry overseas, that we could ship a lot of our good jobs overseas, a lot of our factories, and that somehow that would make the United States more prosperous.
00:30:00.800 I think the reality is that it's made us weaker.
00:30:03.640 It's made us more dependent on the communist Chinese.
00:30:06.560 And when you see, for example, the Chinese respond to the president's trade policy by saying, well, we're going to cut off the United States from critical supplies that are necessary for the American people, doesn't that just prove that Donald Trump was right?
00:30:22.120 How did we ever get into the position where the People's Republic of China could threaten the American people with the loss of critical supplies?
00:30:30.920 And given that we are in that position, Donald Trump is exactly right that we have to get out of it.
00:30:35.140 I'm not going to tell you it's going to be easy because it's not, but it's necessary.
00:30:39.720 And I think the president recognizes he has a once-in-a-generation opportunity to do it.
00:30:43.640 J.D. Vance, vice president of the United States, congratulations on the first hundred days and your Ohio State Buckeyes being the national champs.
00:30:50.960 We hope to talk to you again soon.
00:30:52.420 Keep up the good work.
00:30:53.260 Thanks, guys.
00:30:53.820 Take care.
00:30:54.620 That's vice president J.D. Vance talking about so many different issues associated with the economy.
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00:32:27.600 He is the most consequential American leader of the 21st century,
00:32:31.840 and that's an understatement.
00:32:33.260 President Trump has, here's a list,
00:32:34.760 removed men from women's sports,
00:32:36.300 ended DEI in the federal government and the U.S. military,
00:32:39.140 expanded oil and gas extraction to lower prices,
00:32:42.060 taken steps to end unfair trade practices,
00:32:44.660 secured trillions of dollars in new investments in American manufacturing,
00:32:48.640 deported criminal illegal aliens,
00:32:50.440 stood up for religious liberty and rooted out anti-Christian bias,
00:32:54.080 combated virulent anti-Semitism on college campuses.
00:32:58.220 The list goes on and on and on.
00:32:59.420 That's just barely scratching the surface.
00:33:00.960 That's in 100 days.
00:33:02.360 We're just getting started.
00:33:04.420 Just getting started.
00:33:05.660 That was Speaker Mike Johnson talking about Trump's first 100 days.
00:33:08.500 We are at that mark right now.
00:33:10.960 The time is flying by,
00:33:12.660 but certainly a lot already for the Trump administration to tout
00:33:15.740 in terms of accomplishments and a lot more on the way.
00:33:21.260 And, Clay, I don't know if you saw this,
00:33:22.340 but our friend Senator Tommy Tuberville,
00:33:25.580 he went full A-plus in his grading here.
00:33:28.300 So I scaled mine down to an A because I think you can't really give an A-plus.
00:33:32.820 But Senator Tuberville, he thinks you can.
00:33:35.280 Play six.
00:33:35.960 100 days.
00:33:36.660 What do you think?
00:33:37.320 A-plus.
00:33:38.120 What else can he do, Larry?
00:33:39.520 They left it in a total mess.
00:33:41.160 I was up here for four years of Joe Biden.
00:33:43.640 They did not do one thing for the American people or for this country.
00:33:46.780 They actually tried to destroy it,
00:33:48.540 and everything went down.
00:33:49.900 Now President Trump has got foreign wars.
00:33:52.500 He's got deportations, you know, the border, the tax cuts.
00:33:56.940 He's trying to save the economy.
00:33:58.500 What a total disaster the Democrats created.
00:34:01.720 And they're on the steps of the Capitol, you know,
00:34:04.780 kumbaya and all this kind of stuff going on.
00:34:07.020 And they make absolutely no sense of what's happened.
00:34:10.460 And they don't have a clue how to fix anything,
00:34:14.040 so they're just trying to create problems.
00:34:16.380 I think that's certainly the case.
00:34:17.920 Democrats are just an opposition party or a party of no.
00:34:20.560 Now, that, when you're out of power, is always somewhat true.
00:34:24.640 But you can also say, I don't like what he's doing.
00:34:27.380 Here's what should be done.
00:34:28.380 Democrats just still chant about Hitler
00:34:30.880 and all kinds of exaggerated, crazy nonsense to oppose Trump.
00:34:36.220 But, Clay, here's one area where they're going after him using numbers.
00:34:39.520 This is cut 16.
00:34:41.560 CNN's Harry Enten yesterday on the 100-day mark saying,
00:34:45.640 or just before the 100-day mark,
00:34:47.080 saying that the poll numbers aren't in his favor.
00:34:49.040 Play that one.
00:34:49.560 These numbers are just horrible.
00:34:50.740 There's no way to sugarcoat it.
00:34:52.060 And the first way we'll sort of point that out
00:34:53.800 is we'll look at where Donald Trump is now
00:34:55.540 versus where he was 100 days into his first presidency.
00:34:58.500 And you see it here.
00:34:59.140 You don't have to be a mathematical genius.
00:35:01.020 41% approval of him now.
00:35:02.680 It was 44% back in 2017, around the 100-day mark.
00:35:06.900 And what's so notable here is that throughout his second term as president,
00:35:10.600 he tended to be running ahead of where he was in his first term.
00:35:13.600 No longer is that the case.
00:35:14.940 He has fallen below where he was at this point in his first term.
00:35:18.520 Of course, this is just Trump.
00:35:20.080 Let's compare him to other presidents.
00:35:21.800 And I really think this kind of puts a bow on it.
00:35:23.880 And you can see it here.
00:35:24.960 You see the 41%.
00:35:26.320 That is 12 points below Joe Biden.
00:35:28.700 That's three points below where he was in his first term.
00:35:30.680 Shouldn't that tell us, Clay, that it doesn't matter?
00:35:34.300 If Biden was 12 points ahead of where Trump is now,
00:35:36.960 he had a failed presidency, he was a disaster,
00:35:38.920 and he was hiding dementia from the American people.
00:35:42.260 That's just one example of, or one data point toward,
00:35:45.280 I don't care what Trump's poll numbers are right now.
00:35:47.800 I care that Trump is pursuing the agenda.
00:35:49.880 That's what he's supposed to do.
00:35:51.120 And people who are getting weak knees over tariffs
00:35:53.240 need to stiffen their spines a little bit.
00:35:55.000 I also think that poll numbers for presidents only matter if they can run for re-election.
00:36:02.560 We talked to J.D. Vance at the top of the last hour.
00:36:05.940 J.D. Vance, I imagine, would like to be the successor of Trump.
00:36:10.240 He is the person who would be running in some way more than anyone on what the legacy of Trump is.
00:36:17.960 If Trump has, as I think he will, a very popular legacy in 2028,
00:36:24.860 then I think J.D. Vance will win the presidency.
00:36:27.180 Because I would expect that J.D. will be the favorite in 2028,
00:36:30.600 and as the vice president, he will be running on the legacy of the president to some extent.
00:36:36.400 Obviously, you try to also put your own spin forward on things.
00:36:41.020 But look, I mean, this is the challenge that Kamala Harris had.
00:36:44.260 But whatever you think of Kamala Harris, and I think she was a very weak candidate,
00:36:49.020 the reason she lost, in addition to being a weak candidate herself,
00:36:53.260 was because she said there wasn't anything that she would do that was different than what Joe Biden had done.
00:36:58.480 And when you have a profoundly unpopular sitting president,
00:37:01.720 and your answer is, hey, more of the same,
00:37:05.080 it's unlikely that the American public is going to respond favorably to you.
00:37:08.880 But, Buck, here is what I think from the poll perspective to the point you said weak-kneed.
00:37:13.320 I think that Trump came in and said,
00:37:17.460 we have major, huge, systemic issues that need to be solved.
00:37:22.720 The border, I would argue Buck is pretty much solved.
00:37:26.080 Now, deportation is a challenge, but in terms of allowing things to get worse,
00:37:31.420 he solved it in the first hundred days.
00:37:33.620 The global trade imbalances, this is a major battle that's going to continue for a long time,
00:37:39.640 but he took it on, and then the other one is the fact that we have a $36 trillion national debt.
00:37:46.180 He tried to take that on.
00:37:47.420 Where do you think the negativity is coming from?
00:37:49.720 Not the border, where overwhelmingly people agree with him.
00:37:52.760 It's taking big swings and big cuts at global trade
00:37:56.820 and at the overall economic basis of our budget.
00:38:02.100 He's taking some lumps there because he's trying to fix two really substantial issues.
00:38:07.700 Well, this is where the psychology of propaganda also is so important
00:38:11.660 because they were talking about a Trump recession or even a Trump depression
00:38:16.700 just a couple of weeks ago when there was a choppy week in the markets,
00:38:20.660 up, down, up, down.
00:38:22.380 And you could say, well, Buck, clearly we're not in markets up today.
00:38:25.720 We're not doing backflips over it, but the point is they can make people feel negatively about things
00:38:34.020 even when the reporting is premature or just flatly untrue, right?
00:38:39.360 So if you tell people enough things are bad, you know, they've done interesting studies about this.
00:38:44.720 If you're a person who is just positive about other people in general,
00:38:49.440 people view you more positively, which makes sense, right?
00:38:52.940 And if you're somebody who's always talking smack, who's always saying that, you know,
00:38:57.720 Sally from accounting needs to, you know, work harder or, you know,
00:39:01.340 Joe from accounts receivable needs to put in more time, whatever.
00:39:04.880 If you're always the negative person, people tend to view you more negatively.
00:39:09.860 Well, this is true of news reporting as well.
00:39:12.200 If you're just talking negative stories endlessly, even if those stories are exaggerated
00:39:17.420 or turn out not to be what you initially reported,
00:39:20.020 you can make people think things are worse than they are.
00:39:23.000 And this is why Democrats also rush with the, and the Democrat-aligned media,
00:39:27.340 rushes with the negative narrative as fast as they can.
00:39:31.580 They don't want to wait for things to play out because they want to turn the perception
00:39:35.600 against the administration because this is politics, right?
00:39:38.240 That's how they view it.
00:39:39.400 They just want people to think things are bad.
00:39:41.480 Remember when the Biden, they had this in the opposite direction,
00:39:44.740 when for a while Biden's strategy, I think going into the midterms
00:39:48.800 and then afterwards for a while, Clay, was the economy's great.
00:39:51.640 People just don't know how great it is, right?
00:39:54.340 That was the...
00:39:55.340 Yeah, that was their argument.
00:39:56.780 That was their argument.
00:39:57.460 You don't even know how great things are for you right now.
00:39:59.860 You just need to pay attention to how great they are.
00:40:01.980 It's like, well, that did not exactly resonate.
00:40:05.740 They're trying a different version of, sure, you think things are pretty much okay
00:40:09.560 and actually going pretty well.
00:40:10.960 Well, they're actually terrible, though, and that's what they've been doing
00:40:14.500 certainly for the last month on the economy.
00:40:16.120 So long story short, I think the poll numbers don't matter.
00:40:20.980 Why would they matter right now?
00:40:22.640 No one's going to care what the polls were now in six months or even in six weeks.
00:40:26.800 So it's just an effort to try to create negative perception.
00:40:30.680 I think they would matter maybe if there were a more popular politician in America,
00:40:35.380 and there isn't one, right?
00:40:37.760 So, I mean, if Democrats, the Biden poll numbers always occurred with the shadow
00:40:43.340 of a Trump presidency and a Trump re-election bid hanging out there.
00:40:48.300 I know we talked about Wes Moore in the last hour and who the Democrat, J.B. Pritzker,
00:40:53.540 Peter, Mayor Pete, that are trying to kind of set the agenda to try to be the nominee in 2028.
00:40:59.380 Who's a more popular politician right now than Trump?
00:41:02.720 Is there any Democrat?
00:41:04.160 I mean, the Democrat approval ratings in Congress make the Trump approval ratings look phenomenal.
00:41:10.540 So I think you have to look at it in the context of is anyone else doing better?
00:41:16.120 You also hit on something that I always thought was super fascinating.
00:41:19.220 Do you know what the number one likelihood of who was going to get sued as a doctor was?
00:41:25.420 You talked about how people are seen.
00:41:27.300 Do you know what they've studied from a...
00:41:29.960 Oh, if you don't like the doctor, the chance of you suing the doctor goes up like 10x or something.
00:41:36.220 Bedside manner.
00:41:37.380 It's not does the doctor screw up a lot.
00:41:40.400 If the doctor has a likable comportment, the odds of him being sued or her being sued much lower.
00:41:47.720 The bedside manner aspect there.
00:41:49.620 And so I think that factors in on some level.
00:41:54.040 Trump is now a known quantity.
00:41:56.200 And the thing that Trump got right back in 2016 when he said it is, hey, I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and my base is not leaving me.
00:42:05.340 And I'm paraphrasing him on that quote, but that was basically the quote.
00:42:08.840 The Trump base is not leaving.
00:42:10.540 Now, we've talked about this for some time.
00:42:13.020 What is the Trump base?
00:42:14.680 I think 40% of America is dyed-in-the-wool Trump team.
00:42:20.140 And so he's going to have that 40% no matter what.
00:42:23.200 He got a big percentage growth, I think, in the 2024 election.
00:42:28.040 And now the question is, I think this is going to ultimately determine everything.
00:42:32.460 What's the economy like?
00:42:33.940 This is what I told you, Buck.
00:42:35.080 I think I said that I was going to tease this and I told you inflation was number one.
00:42:39.260 I'll hit you with the other things.
00:42:40.660 But it's inflation overwhelmingly.
00:42:42.140 If the price of gas keeps coming down and if the price of groceries does not go up, the average American is going to consider Trump to have done a decent job.
00:42:53.080 I'll also layer on foreign affairs doesn't feel like we're very close to a war.
00:42:58.360 Now, I hope I'm not jinxing it, but it feels like for Americans in terms of our stability and safety around the world, I feel pretty good about that as we speak right now.
00:43:09.460 If Trump decides to just get it together and invade us, I am going to blame you for this now.
00:43:13.160 This will be on me if Canada or Mexico, Canada or Mexico, Costa Rica decides to finally get an army and decides to try to invade.
00:43:20.560 This will be on me because I just said I feel very safe.
00:43:22.980 But in general, I feel like we're a long way from any wars.
00:43:26.220 Also, I would just say, what would people want Trump to be working on right now?
00:43:30.720 Who voted for him?
00:43:32.280 Yeah, that he's not doing.
00:43:34.300 I think that's an important question to ask if this is what is the thing that Trump said?
00:43:38.380 I will in the first hundred days do the following start to do the following.
00:43:43.500 Right.
00:43:43.620 I'm not saying the results are all in or that everything has been accomplished far from it.
00:43:47.200 But what is the area of focus where Trump has not focused and and we were told he would?
00:43:52.880 I cannot think of it because I don't think it exists.
00:43:56.120 I think he has come out and started going after everything he said he would go after.
00:44:01.640 Deportations are in the early phase, but it is happening.
00:44:03.980 The border is secure.
00:44:05.160 It happened even faster than I anticipated that it would.
00:44:07.780 He's getting the negotiations going on tariffs.
00:44:10.040 He has the negotiations going on Russia, Ukraine.
00:44:12.280 He is looking at Iran and Israel and, you know, Mideast peace, et cetera.
00:44:18.680 What is he not doing that he said he would do?
00:44:21.780 That's I think in a lot of ways the real test of the first hundred days is that, you know, promises made, promises kept goes a little bit too far because, well, have we gotten the results yet that we need?
00:44:34.340 No, but focus is important and the focus has been on what he said it would be.
00:44:40.960 And I think in the first hundred days of an administration, that's about the best you can ask for is you're actually doing this stuff, right?
00:44:48.060 You're trying to do this stuff actively.
00:44:50.260 You're not delaying.
00:44:51.420 You're not prevaricating.
00:44:52.920 You're not saying, oh, I don't want to go as hard in this direction as I said I would.
00:44:56.920 That was just a fool you idiots to vote for me.
00:44:59.280 He said, no, OK, let's go.
00:45:01.420 And and so I think that there's a lot of credit that should be given to him on that.
00:45:04.700 And the other stuff, Clay, that we're talking about with the loss of some support in the polls, a lot of that's media perception.
00:45:09.500 A lot of that is people freak out quickly.
00:45:12.220 OK, you know, they hear that there's a recession coming.
00:45:15.780 They go, oh, my gosh, the recession.
00:45:17.300 It's going to be fine.
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00:47:29.480 I mentioned this poll earlier, and I do think it's interesting.
00:47:33.840 This is from NBC News.
00:47:36.140 They say they surveyed nearly 20,000 adults and asked top economic issue for you and your family.
00:47:45.460 Forty four percent buck said inflation.
00:47:48.640 So if I were giving advice to anyone in the Trump team over the next hundred days, I would say maniacally focus on bringing the cost of goods down, because I think that's the number one way that people tend to react right now to the economy.
00:48:06.380 Second is taxes.
00:48:07.580 We know, Buck, that the bill is rolling through the big, beautiful bill that will enshrine the tax cuts.
00:48:14.220 We'll take some of your calls on that.
00:48:16.260 Third is the national debt.
00:48:17.980 Again, these are big, major systemic issues.
00:48:22.580 And then you get into housing, the stock market, which is in many ways a snapshot of whatever the economy is at any given time.
00:48:29.480 Those are things that I think Trump gets.
00:48:33.120 But if I were saying if you could focus on one thing and solve one thing, inflation is down.
00:48:39.240 But I think if you could change the idea that Biden built in, that things are going to cost far too much, that would be the most helpful in the next hundred days.
00:48:49.260 It's what I would say to Trump.
00:48:50.440 Hey, if you were going to be judged on something, what would you want to be judged on bringing inflation down and cost of goods being not a massive thing that everybody's obsessed with?
00:49:01.460 It would be nice, though, at some point to get a reduction in rates here.
00:49:05.240 That could be I know Trump has been very vocal about that.
00:49:08.060 I think he's right about that to free up a little bit of liquidity in our economy would be a good thing.
00:49:14.220 I think people are waiting to make moves based upon this.
00:49:18.380 That could be very helpful overall.
00:49:19.960 So we shall see.
00:49:22.100 But, yeah, the main thing is you don't want overspending like we saw under Biden because that is what creates inflation.
00:49:30.780 And it really is a tax on the working class and those who are trying to pay bills and maybe even get ahead of bills.
00:49:39.100 That is what ends up happening.
00:49:41.020 This is your dollars are worth less.
00:49:43.360 You have to pay more for the things that you need.
00:49:46.260 Asset holders do fine.
00:49:47.740 People that have big stock accounts, multiple homes, own businesses, et cetera, they generally do much better when inflation is high or rather they can weather the inflation much better.
00:49:58.820 But, you know, the Treasury Department is going to borrow five hundred and fourteen billion dollars this quarter.
00:50:04.660 According to Bloomberg, Clay, this is a three hundred twenty percent increase from its previous estimate.
00:50:09.480 We're still spending too much money, everybody.
00:50:11.340 But I guess this is the problem is the biggest challenge I think for Doge all along has been.
00:50:16.800 So we can't touch 70 percent of spending.
00:50:19.340 Let's see what we can do to make the other 30 percent of spending not so crazy.
00:50:23.340 That's not good enough.
00:50:25.640 But nobody wants to hear it.
00:50:28.280 Nobody wants to hear it.
00:50:29.060 Well, I mean, this is the thing that we're speeding at rapidly is, frankly, if you don't address the thirty six trillion dollars in debt, sooner or later, the bill is going to get paid maybe by your grandkids.
00:50:44.040 But economic reality doesn't disappear.
00:50:47.380 We can't continue to live on borrowed money.
00:50:50.480 And yet we're going to try.
00:50:52.620 Yes, this is unfortunately, this is what we're doing.
00:50:55.540 So, yeah, no doubt.
00:51:00.200 Yes, indeed.
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