00:11:07.920The markets are judging the Trump economic situation as a very positive one.
00:11:13.640And I do think that is significant overall as to the likelihood of where we are headed.
00:11:21.100What do you think? Do you care if we actually have the uranium in possession or in your mind, if we say, hey, we've got eyes on it, we're going to watch it and we just pull back and this thing ends and the traffic returns to some form of normalcy in the Strait of Hormuz?
00:11:37.580Is that satisfactory in your mind or do you also want to see the tangible asset of Iranian nuclear pursuit in the control of the United States?
00:11:49.360this thing is not over until we have iranians uh winning an election with people who are willing
00:11:59.600to sit down with the leadership of the united states and israel with smiles on their faces
00:12:05.900and talk about how to make iran a regional ally and a peaceful and prosperous place without all
00:12:12.180this lunacy that's the real truth this thing doesn't really end until that day and i don't
00:12:16.960know where that day is but it may not be in the life of anybody living today yeah to be fair yeah
00:12:22.120in in the meantime uh you have a situation where we're just trump has done a lot more than anybody
00:12:30.400before him but to truly end this threat when trump says iran will never have a nuclear weapon and
00:12:36.600that's his goal think about what that really means it does not mean we sign a piece of paper with
00:12:43.100iran they still have some enriched uranium or even the technical know-how to enrich uranium in the
00:12:49.520future and the people what happens in two years everybody what happens i know we can't even think
00:12:55.760this stuff right now what happens if a democrat wins the next election yeah the iranians will
00:12:59.640run circles around the next democrat administration because all they're going to want to do
00:13:03.140is play the big peacemaker and say big bad mean trump did all these bad things to you
00:13:07.780so we'll bend over backwards we'll give you taxpayer cash we'll show up with pallets full
00:13:13.220of dollar dollar bills everybody anything to make it seem like the democrats are the peacemakers with
00:13:20.160iran so these are all the layers of complexity that come to bear i'm really just thinking about
00:13:24.940this in a six month well i guess more like eight in front of the math nine month timeline here
00:13:28.920of what how does this play out between now until the midterms okay because if you try to think
00:13:34.560about what this really means long term you'll drive yourself crazy because nobody can really
00:13:38.820know and there's too many variables for anyone to uh to be able to properly assess it but really
00:13:44.420this is can trump win this round against iran and substantially delay their nuclear program and
00:13:50.880nuclear progress through it all regime change is not on the table it's not happening so that's
00:13:57.900where we are uh we will take back we will take your calls we will take your interactions senator
00:14:03.980Rand Paul of Kentucky will join us at the bottom of the at the bottom of the second hour.
00:14:10.740And Sarah Isger, who's got a book about the Supreme Court, is going to be in studio and
00:14:16.440we'll see what she thinks about increasing speculation that Justice Alito might decide
00:14:22.000to step down and that Trump could have another Supreme Court vacancy to fill that story out
00:14:28.820there and starting to get more attention as we come up on the end of the June recess.
00:14:34.920I was reading over the weekend that Alito has not hired his clerks fully.
00:14:41.940Sometimes that's a little bit of a sign.
00:14:44.140Again, the Supreme Court comes back in session in October.
00:14:47.280So from June to October, we could have a window there where President Trump could have a Supreme
00:19:46.900What are you seeing as the primary driver for the primary?
00:19:50.460It's going to happen in about a month there.
00:19:52.100I think people understand in Kentucky that you can be supportive of Donald Trump, as I am, and also supportive of Thomas Massey.
00:20:01.740I think Thomas Massey is the most conservative, most constitutionally oriented person in the House.
00:20:07.020He's fearless. He's the head of the Liberty Caucus. He's also the head of the Second Amendment Caucus.
00:20:12.360And so I am all in for Thomas Massey. I've campaigned for him several times. We'll continue to do so.
00:20:17.980And I think it's important to have independent voices. You know, if people want a rubber stamp and they say, will you support the president 100 percent of the time? And then the other candidate says, no, I'll support him 150 percent of the time. No, I'll support him 200 percent of the time. You leave yourself wondering, are they conservative? Do they support a balanced budget? Do they support the Constitution? Do they support the Second Amendment?
00:20:39.940But so to me, it's not so much about fidelity or faithfulness to one person.
00:20:44.400It's about fidelity and faithfulness to the Constitution, to conservative values, to limited government, to balanced budgets.
00:20:50.920And I think Thomas Massey is unparalleled in being the best defender of the Constitution currently in the Congress.
00:20:59.760Speaking of Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, Senator, I appreciated the if I could circle back on this for a second, your feelings about the overall Iran conflict.
00:21:07.940but right now there's a negotiation happening are you hopeful for this negotiation actually
00:21:14.380ending the conflict what would you advise trump vance the others who are making decisions on this
00:21:20.140to do to stop this because i know you want this war over i think that's very i would have known
00:21:25.460that before you said it you don't want us to be continuing to bomb them you don't want the
00:21:29.240straighter form moves to be under threat do you see a way forward or are we just looking at months
00:21:34.020of instability here? I don't know that anybody knows the answer yet. I think the sticking point
00:21:40.080really is the Straits of Hormuz. Will the Iranians give in? Will the Iranians say that we won't1.00
00:21:45.100develop a nuclear weapon? I think actually they will negotiate on that. They've been willing to
00:21:49.040negotiate on it before. It's whether or not they're believable in the negotiations. As far
00:21:53.780as the Straits go, our decision to blockade it will now be something that militarily will be
00:22:01.360decided whether or not we can do that. I think we probably can. We've removed mines from it. We0.74
00:22:06.420have the capability to do that. The missiles they shoot are very, very close to us. So the way we
00:22:12.020intercept missiles is I think we're better the farther away they shoot the missiles from. The
00:22:16.660closer they are, the more difficult it is to intercept missiles. So militarily, we'll see what
00:22:21.440happens. I hope for the best. I hope that they will negotiate over the Straits and that we will
00:22:26.400will move forward. I don't like the idea of us continuing forever to control the Straits of
00:22:31.500Ramos and charging a fee, as some have indicated, or controlling it jointly with Iran and charging
00:22:37.140a fee. I think it's unknown what will happen. The big sticking point really now is what will
00:22:42.820happen with the Straits. While the Iranians are completely defeated, their military is completely0.97
00:22:47.700defeated. I don't know that the people are necessarily defeated. And in some ways,
00:22:52.000the new regime there's a question whether or not they're going to be more compliant or less whether
00:22:59.000it'll be more radical or less radical some say that the radicals that were killed off may be
00:23:03.640well replaced with even people more radical we're talking to Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky I know
00:23:08.900you've got a big hearing on the second amendment that's coming up you're in Washington DC I know
00:23:14.160we got listeners all over the country that have weapons have guns and when they drive from one
00:23:19.820state to another they're worried about what the rules are what the laws are um and i do think this
00:23:26.460fact point should get more attention than it has thankfully we set an all-time record low for
00:23:32.660murders in 2025 i think you probably could speak to this because i'm pretty sure it's factually
00:23:38.680connected but there hasn't been much discussion about it we also have record numbers of firearms
00:23:44.760in the hands of American citizens that is never before have there been more guns in the hands of
00:23:51.120American citizens yet in 2025 we set what may well be the lowest murder rate in the history of the
00:23:56.620country what can you tell us about the second amendment what does that say about lawful guns
00:24:01.180in the hands of gun owners and how frustrating is it to you that you're in Kentucky I'm in Tennessee
00:24:07.220we drive to Florida quite a lot the rules are different depending on what states we go through
00:24:12.880to get to florida from where i live in nashville that seems crazy to me well the statistics are
00:24:19.660pretty clear that uh lawful uh gun owners and people who carry weapons actually commit crimes
00:24:25.280at a much lower rate than the general public most of the people who are lawfully owning guns are
00:24:30.220actually some of the most law-abiding people you'll meet most people carry weapons for self-defense
00:24:35.160and are actually some of the best citizens we have the second amendment of the right to own guns to
00:24:40.460me is a natural right. It's God given. It's the right to self-defense. It's codified in the Bill
00:24:46.120of Rights. And really, you should have a constitutional right to carry. In Kentucky,
00:24:50.500you do. We no longer have a concealed carry law. We have a constitutional carry, which means
00:24:55.580the Constitution protects it. So I'm for a national constitutional carry such that if you go from
00:25:02.020Tennessee and you drive up to D.C., you may well want self-defense in D.C., but right now it's
00:25:07.520difficult because dc basically bans people from having guns it's difficult to own a gun or to
00:25:12.880bring a gun into dc but i see guns as self-defense everywhere i go the people with me are armed
00:25:18.580i'm often armed and i think that uh it's a it's it's something that is uh the idea of self-defense
00:25:25.840to me is a god-given right that shouldn't be infringed senator paul obviously everyone knows
00:25:31.840as well uh that you were on that baseball diamond when a a bad guy had a gun who was trying to shoot
00:25:40.020you and other members of congress did shoot steve scalise who had to fight for his life
00:25:44.000so your thoughts on the second amendment i mean there were fortunately i believe it was actually
00:25:48.900a woman a female member of capital police right but there were the proverbial good guys with guns
00:25:54.360there to handle the situation but uh to your point about dc versus virginia you really can't go into
00:26:00.600the district with a gun and so people who are law-abiding are disarmed and people who want to
00:26:05.400harm others like that maniacal shooter on that day they enter into situations knowing that they're
00:26:11.100effectively dealing with what is either a gun-free or a very limited gun zone yeah and i think when
00:26:17.460you look at crime john lott's written several books on this but when you look at crime most
00:26:22.160of the crime that is caught that is uh committed with weapons is committed with weapons that are
00:26:26.580not legally bought. These are guns with the identification mark scratched off and they're
00:26:32.220solded and traded hands in the black market. So of legally owned guns, very, very little crime is
00:26:38.180committed with that. Almost all the crime in the U.S. is with illegally traded guns. So making more
00:26:43.780gun laws and making more guns illegal doesn't necessarily affect the crime rate. What it does
00:26:48.520is it just affects those of us who are law abiding and buy guns for self-defense.
00:26:52.760um we get asked about this all the time the save act uh what's going to happen what should happen
00:27:00.500is anything going to uh progress in any way there in terms of a resolution we're talking
00:27:07.660with senator rand paul of kentucky i'm a co-sponsor of it i think it should be a minimum
00:27:13.500to vote in our country that you have to present an id another problem we have besides the idea is
00:27:19.520also this idea of voting by mail. In our state, we went ahead and got rid of voting by mail for
00:27:25.680the most part. 97% of Kentuckians vote in person. We still have about five Republican or battleground
00:27:31.860states that haven't done it. So while I'm for a national ID to be shown for voting and national
00:27:37.840elections, I think we should also have a push because we may not get enough votes to pass it
00:27:42.460the Senate, we should also be pushing at the state level. So Utah, Arizona, Alaska, Iowa,
00:27:49.140West Virginia, all Republican leaning states, maybe except for Arizona, still don't have
00:27:54.180sufficient voter ID laws. And they also mail ballots to everyone and keep mailing them and
00:27:59.140mailing them and mailing them and soliciting voters who normally don't have the energy to
00:28:04.160get off their couch. And so I think we need to keep addressing it national level. If we're not
00:28:08.920successful there i think the next step is to go to the five remaining republican or battleground
00:28:14.340states and let's change the laws in those states to have better uh voter id laws tomorrow is tax
00:28:20.960day a day that many of us hate uh i've got some data here that i thought was interesting irs top
00:28:28.000one percent of income tax filers uh contribute about 40 percent of the overall revenue top 10
00:28:34.880percent pay 72 percent of all the revenue top quarter 87.2 percent bottom half pays no federal
00:28:43.680income tax yet democrats are going to be all up in arms and continue to be that tax rates need to be
00:28:50.220raised your thoughts i was on the view one time and i don't recommend it but i was on the view
00:28:57.440and i told the ladies that people under fifty thousand dollars don't pay any income tax and
00:29:02.840they all started squawking and yelling at me back and forth, and they wouldn't listen to it.
00:29:07.400But it is a fact. Under $50,000, you don't pay income tax. Particularly husband and wife and
00:29:13.340two kids, the standard deduction is $50,000. So you don't pay under $50,000 the income tax.
00:29:19.240When people say on the left, when Bernie and other people on the left say,
00:29:23.340oh, the rich are not paying their fair share, it's the opposite. The rich are not only paying
00:29:27.900their fair share, they're paying most of the income tax. You're exactly right. Top 1% paying
00:29:33.14040%, almost half of the income tax. Top 10%, 70%. So yes, the wealthy, we have a more progressive
00:29:40.960tax code in our country than they do in Sweden. So we have plenty of taxes. We have too much,
00:29:46.760but we also have a spending problem. So even with all the taxes we pay, we have this massive
00:29:51.220deficit. But what we don't need is more revenue. I don't want more taxes, but we do need to cut
00:29:56.860spending and cut it dramatically senator rand paul senator rand paul thanks so much for being
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00:31:44.540welcome back in hour number three clay travis buck sexton show uh we i've got a bunch of different
00:31:52.780news stories that we are tracking for all of you uh reports that there may be yet another round
00:32:00.220of discussions in pakistan between iran and the united states uh as we are talking with all of you
00:32:08.660s&p 500 uh up substantially only about one half of a percent away about 38 points in the s&p 500
00:32:20.620from an all-time record high for stocks.
00:32:24.720The price of gas continuing to decline as I am looking at it right now.
00:32:32.040Crude oil futures down to $88 a barrel in real time, down about 5% today.
00:32:40.060The expectation of the blockade having a negative impact seems to have largely vanished.
00:32:49.200There are possible, like I just said, additional talks coming.
00:32:53.880And that is the latest as it pertains to Iran.
00:32:58.140Buck, anything that you would add on the Iran news?
00:33:04.920Price of oil and gas down substantially today.
00:33:08.140Now, to be fair, it's up about $20-ish from before the war started in Iran.
00:33:16.080I think oil and gas prices, $66, $67 a barrel-ish, and they are at $88 right now,
00:33:23.200but down pretty substantially from the early days of the war.
00:33:28.720The reason why I mention markets in this respect is there seems to be a sense that things are calming down fairly substantially in the Gulf region.
00:33:39.860And if you're out there and you're thinking, okay, what does that mean for oil and gas prices to me, Clay?
00:33:44.060They they got up to about one hundred and twenty bucks and now they're back down to eighty eight.
00:33:49.560So they have fallen pretty precipitously from their peak during the course of of this of this war.
00:33:58.700Yes, I think that we are seeing the Trump administration tallying what the Iranians have in terms of leverage and weaknesses and what we have or what Trump has on his side.
00:34:13.720bring to bear the full force and weight of the united states military and saying0.67
00:34:16.900if you guys want to turn this into a version of medieval siege warfare we can do that
00:34:22.720and that just turns into who has more who has better preparations who has more stuff who can
00:34:29.380outlast the other right so that's where we are i think it's it's a bit of a waiting game with the
00:34:35.180pressures that are there the things that could shake it up dramatically would be if we went in
00:34:40.300to take the uranium that would be a big that would be a big uh gamble but that's something
00:34:45.580that may happen or if uh the iranians decided you know what we're just going to blow up a tanker and
00:34:52.040see what happens i don't see them doing that uh because it would cause such problems for them
00:34:57.540too but when someone is cornered you never know what they're willing to do and if we really have
00:35:04.320our foot on the jugular of the malacracy they may react in a way that is uh hard to hard to foresee
00:35:11.820and and could be very drastic so that's that's how i see it i mean jd vance is saying that you
00:35:19.980see this here this is cut 13 he's talking about economic terrorism that iran has engaged in and
00:35:25.100he's like we can play this game play 13 here's the very interesting thing about all this is that
00:35:30.660the only thing the Iranians have been able to do, they haven't, of course, beaten us militarily.
00:35:35.240They've had their military been decimated. They haven't been able to prosecute the case when it0.72
00:35:40.620comes to weapons of war. What they have done is engage in this act of economic terrorism against
00:35:45.940the entire world. They basically threatened any ship that's moving through the Straits of Hormuz.
00:35:50.620Well, as the president of the United States showed, two can play at that game. And if the
00:35:53.600Iranians are going to try to engage in economic terrorism, we're going to abide by a simple0.83
00:35:58.100principle that no iranian ships are getting out either this is what i mean by who can wait this0.97
00:36:05.280out more who can handle the pressure better um now i think that the thing that the iranians
00:36:10.900have going for them or the regime has going forward is they view this as existential
00:36:14.160and they're used to a lot of suffering and inflicting a lot of suffering as well as taking
00:36:19.460it themselves uh we have a democracy we have a republic i know but we have democratic elections
00:36:25.080and therefore we have to think about the political pressures but economically and militarily clay
00:36:30.760it's checkmate on it wrong it is and uh for those of you out there and i get it because i filled up
00:36:38.540my uh car over the weekend um and price of oil and gas is up to around on average i always like
00:36:46.040to have fun with this on average about four dollars a gallon um and the overall price increases
00:36:53.640have effectively stopped and again i think you're going to start to see a dial back pretty
00:37:01.620significantly uh between now and memorial day when prices are likely to go up again it's just
00:37:09.120me analyzing the larger marketplace because a lot more people go on the road they switch out
00:37:13.800the uh the type of oil and gas that is primarily sold uh so if you're out there and you are using
00:37:21.080the price of oil and gas as a proxy for how the economy is going um then i think you're going to
00:37:27.820start to see those prices come back down um based on what we are uh what we are seeing in the larger
00:37:35.080marketplace um okay so again stock market near record highs about one half of a percent off all
00:37:43.400time highs if you had just not paid attention at all the stock prices and not paid attention at all
00:37:49.620to what's going on with Iran and just done nothing at all different,
00:38:43.540She just had a press conference in Beverly Hills.
00:38:47.000She alleges that he drugged and raped her.
00:38:49.940This is a new allegation helps to explain why Eric Swalwell not only has dropped out of the governor's race, as we discussed yesterday with Steve Hilton, but also why he has decided to give up his congressional seat.
00:44:35.100This guy, you're sending photos of your genitalia
00:44:39.680to strangers on the internet and you think you should be lecturing republicans on how bad they
00:44:45.220are on tv but sure enough you see this over and over again with these democrats where they get
00:44:50.720absolutely but by the way joe biden joe biden hunter biden the whole thing these people are
00:44:57.020attacking republicans all the time you're hunter biden you think you're in a position to attack
00:45:00.400anyone for anything or joe biden for that matter i agree with that how about swalwell was one of
00:45:05.280the foremost accusers on the Epstein files like if you yeah but I mean if you were engaged in
00:45:14.940behavior like of like this um as as he has been alleged to be involved in are you going to be
00:45:21.760the guy running around saying can you believe Jeffrey Epstein was trading on relationships
00:45:27.260and being involved with lots of women and I just it is to your point Buck either he is a
00:45:34.380uh he's got a mental illness of a incredibly high level or in his mind he was he had convinced
00:45:43.800himself that all of these acts were consensual and he was uh just a paragon of virtue at least
00:45:52.280in his relationships with women even though obviously he's married he's got multiple kids
00:45:57.060And I just this story is is really kind of staggering.
00:46:02.580I don't know that we've ever seen a political collapse happen this quickly.
00:46:07.500And again, we've talked about it. Democrats, to me, at some point basically ordered the code red on this guy and he ran for president.
00:46:16.740Nobody came after him. Right. I mean, usually when you run for president, if there's dirty laundry.
00:46:21.180Now, maybe he was just such a far down the list of presidential candidates that nobody took him seriously.
00:46:28.020And maybe it's just that he was now the favorite in California.
00:46:30.880And that explains the code red suddenly happening.
00:46:33.660The guy's been in Congress for a long time to suddenly have all of this happen.
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00:48:10.800We're joined by Sarah Isger, host of the Advisory Opinions Podcast, editor of SCOTUS Blog,
00:48:17.820plays excited, author of the new book, Last Branch Standing, a potentially surprising,
00:48:34.800Let's just get to, if I could, this court.
00:48:38.980what is so interesting about it to you right now why'd you write the book tell us some things about
00:48:44.680the supreme court you write for scotus blog that's where everyone goes to get their crib notes about
00:48:48.760what's happening that's exactly right we do live blogs for the oral arguments for the opinion
00:48:53.480hand downs and i wrote the book because basically every narrative we have about the supreme court
00:48:59.340is wrong this idea that it's a six three partisan court the idea that the court is you know the one
00:49:06.780that's left to decide all of our most important issues. I mean, let's just start with that one
00:49:10.860for a second. We are at the end of a hundred year failed experiment from the progressive era
00:49:16.920where like, let's not have Congress do anything because those, you know, dumb, dumb representatives
00:49:22.320and the voters who put them there can't be trusted. We should instead have experts decide
00:49:27.280everything. Fast forward, Congress doesn't legislate anymore. The president is doing
00:49:32.300everything by executive power, regardless of which party they belong to. And so the Supreme Court
00:49:37.620is forced to play this role, you know, deciding what Congress meant by some old statute that the
00:49:44.160president cites. And instead of the headline saying, you know, Supreme Court strikes down
00:49:49.500Trump's tariffs or Supreme Court strikes down Biden's student loan debt forgiveness,
00:49:54.240the correct headline should say Supreme Court says only Congress can do worldwide tariffs.
00:50:00.040Supreme Court says only Congress can do student loan debt forgiveness, but we're letting Congress off the hook and we're blaming the court.
00:50:08.520Sarah, I got a bunch. I love this. The Supreme Court behind the scenes, everything else.
00:50:14.500Let me start with this one, because I actually read The New York Times is now covering it.
00:50:19.340But the poly market says right now that Justice Alito is favored to step down this year, which would mean that we would have a Supreme Court vacancy sometimes at sometime after this term ends in June.
00:50:35.660Do you buy it? Do you think it is likely? Do you think that President Trump will get an appointment?
00:50:42.020How would you read the tea leaves behind the scenes right now?
00:50:45.320So, I mean, it's it's basically 50 50 at this point.
00:50:48.980the big thing that we have to go on is one, Supreme Court justices tend to retire July 2nd,
00:50:55.520right before a midterm election, if they're sort of of that age. On the other hand, Samuel Alito
00:51:01.520is actually relatively young for a Supreme Court justice who's considering retiring. He's got a
00:51:07.080book coming out in October, you know, books sell better if you're an active Supreme Court justice.
00:51:11.880So I don't know, I can argue it either way. What's fun is to look at who Trump would potentially
00:51:16.900appoint and whether they might be trying behind the scenes to make sure Justice Alito knows that
00:51:22.660if he retires, they will appoint, for instance, one of his former clerks like Fifth Circuit Judge
00:51:28.540Andy Oldham to take his spot. So, you know, don't worry, Your Honor, if you leave, your legacy will
00:51:34.900continue because we're going to pick someone from your clerk family. And in fact, three of the
00:51:39.140current justices are replaced to their bosses. The chief replaced the old chief, Justice Kavanaugh
00:51:44.960replace Justice Kennedy and Justice Jackson replaced Justice Breyer. So that would be kind
00:51:50.240of in line with what we've seen recently. Okay. Drama. You were talking about the Supreme Court
00:51:56.840relationships. Does it buy, do you buy into the fact that Ketanji Brown Jackson is the least
00:52:03.820liked justice by her colleagues on the Supreme Court right now? And the reason why I would ask
00:52:09.280is you've seen Kagan really kind of take aim at her.
00:52:13.580Amy Coney Barrett, that's on the left.
00:52:15.580Amy Coney Barrett seems very, very nice.0.98
00:52:18.460She seems like a mom in a pickup line very much of the time.0.96
00:52:23.160And she has, I don't know, 15 kids or whatever the heck she has.1.00
00:52:26.400So she's used to putting up with frustrations, I would imagine, as a mom.0.86
00:52:31.280She just took a 2x4 to Ketanji Brown-Jackson recently in her opinions.
00:54:20.980She wrote three her first year on the court.
00:54:24.180She's just not like a dues paying type of girl. And yeah, I think that can rub your colleagues the wrong way. But there's only nine of them. They take collegiality very seriously. As Justice Barrett has said, it's kind of like an arranged marriage for life. And so, you know, she talks, Justice Jackson talks the most adoral argument. She's writing these solo dissents. She's, you know, in these 8-1 cases, like in the conversion therapy case, you know, Kagan and Sotomayor are with the conservatives.1.00
00:55:30.220And what is the similarity between explaining the Supreme Court and being on The View to explaining the Supreme Court to a kindergarten class?
00:55:38.380So I will just tell you guys, I was so nervous about it.
00:58:46.380There's this other case about the Remain in Mexico policy and the question of whether Congress allows the administration to prevent someone from getting to the southern border to ask for asylum.
00:58:55.880But to put this in bigger context, all the court is being asked to do in those cases is to say what Congress said in their statute.
00:59:04.100So what's supposed to happen in our system, if it were functioning correctly based on the Constitution, after the Supreme Court says one way or the other, it shouldn't actually matter because Congress the next day could amend their laws to fix it to whichever way they wanted it to say or what the people wanted it to be.
00:59:22.800but none of us believe that Congress will actually do that. So the Supreme Court becomes the last
00:59:28.480word. Then we blame the Supreme Court and then the Supreme Court becomes really important. It
00:59:34.080becomes the focus of our politics, but it's not responsive to us. It's supposed to be against
00:59:39.340these majorities. And as I said, like a lagging indicator of our politics. And so we've really
00:59:45.260got to put that pressure back on Congress and stop saying like, well, the Supreme Court said
00:59:49.300so toss our hands up nothing we can do like no no whether mississippi can accept ballots is not a
00:59:54.500constitutional question it's just up to congress that's it all right go get the book last branch
01:00:02.880standing sarah great to have you on the program thanks for being here with us thank you guys for
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