Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Apr 16 2026

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00:00:20.080 So what does Kami Mamdani...

00:00:23.120 Mamdani...

00:00:24.000 Mamdani...

00:00:25.320 It's not that easy to say.

00:00:28.820 Kwame Mamdani.

00:00:30.000 oh gosh is a tongue twister not easy to say what does he have in store for the city of new york

00:00:38.040 where as you know i still have family that lives there and so i i am very sympathetic to all of you

00:00:46.260 especially our wor listeners who are in the greater new york area and have to deal with

00:00:52.500 the consequences of some of the worst governance in the in the entire country some of the highest

00:00:57.320 taxes the greatest dysfunction and there's no sign of any of it getting any better and this is

00:01:04.540 something that is a more general rule and this is applicable to dealing with democrats anywhere so

00:01:09.320 whether you live in manhattan or montana this is something to keep in mind democrats do not learn

00:01:16.840 the lessons that you as a rational person learn from decisions from policy they don't come away

00:01:25.400 from oh this was a massive failure this was a giant boondoggle this was huge waste fraud and

00:01:31.920 abuse people suffered because of this comma maybe we should do something different their mindset is

00:01:40.120 always we needed to do more of it the reason we didn't get the outcome that we wanted the reason

00:01:48.520 we didn't get to the utopian place the place of perfection the place of oh everybody has all the

00:01:54.780 money they need and everybody is totally equal and there's no one who feels left out and there's

00:02:01.120 no resentment and there's no envy and that doesn't sound like reality does it but doesn't that's what

00:02:06.240 they're going for it's why they're commies this is the vision of the future that they think they

00:02:12.960 can construct for all of the rest of us if only they have enough power and that's the key the

00:02:19.720 problem is never the idea is bad the problem is they had insufficient authority over you

00:02:27.320 another way of saying power insufficient authority to achieve the end state and one version of this

00:02:35.000 or one variant of this is they did not have enough of your money to get done what needed to be done

00:02:42.160 and another a corollary of this is they have never taken enough of your money it's never enough

00:02:50.060 because there could always be more brilliant humanitarian equitable things that they could do

00:02:58.960 with your cash that you of course won't do because you're a fat cat you're one of the you're one of

00:03:05.140 the elite and many of you are saying buck i you know i i make 50 60 70 grand a year what are you

00:03:10.760 talking about yeah but you're not looking for handouts you're not down with this democrat 0.97

00:03:16.040 welfarism and everything else so you're you're a problem and you are a cow to be milked like all 0.61

00:03:22.420 of the rest of us you're not some illegal who showed up here who's getting on benefits as fast 0.95

00:03:26.980 as they can defrauding the taxpayer and not contributing no no no you you want autonomy

00:03:35.060 you want to contribute you want to do things and does the government ever thank you now let's speak

00:03:40.620 to New Yorkers for a second does the state of New York thank you for your high taxes do you feel

00:03:46.480 thanked if anything I think they are outraged every time they take money from you and I went

00:03:53.120 through this myself so I speak of that which I know they feel like you should thank them because

00:04:00.980 they didn't turn you upside down and fully empty out your pockets you are supposed to have a form

00:04:08.520 of economic Stockholm syndrome in New York.

00:04:11.560 You are to thank your economic captors

00:04:15.000 for leaving you with some of the crumbs

00:04:17.520 from the cake that you baked.

00:04:21.260 And once you understand that mentality,

00:04:23.960 once you have a full grasp and understanding

00:04:26.560 of the mindset of the people who are pushing this stuff,

00:04:30.760 who are demanding this stuff,

00:04:33.220 then you're never surprised.

00:04:35.560 Then it all lines up,

00:04:38.120 And you can see it coming a mile away.

00:04:41.180 And with that, I give you Kami Mamdani talking about a new luxury tax on properties.

00:04:51.580 Play cut six.

00:04:53.140 When I ran for mayor, I said I was going to tax the rich.

00:04:55.720 Well, today we're taxing.

00:04:57.740 I'm thrilled to announce we've secured a pied-a-terre tax, the first in New York's history.

00:05:02.500 This is an annual fee on luxury properties worth more than five million dollars.

00:05:06.120 whose owners do not live full-time in the city.

00:05:08.560 Like for this penthouse,

00:05:10.180 which hedge fund CEO Ken Griffin bought for $238 million.

00:05:13.560 This peer-to-tear tax is specifically designed

00:05:15.640 for the richest of the rich,

00:05:17.080 those who store their wealth in New York City real estate,

00:05:19.280 but who don't actually live here.

00:05:20.660 Most of the time, these units are sitting empty,

00:05:22.580 since, again, they don't actually live here.

00:05:25.200 This is a fundamentally unfair system

00:05:27.220 that hurts working New Yorkers.

00:05:28.920 Now, it's coming to an end.

00:05:30.720 I believe everyone has a role to play

00:05:32.520 in contributing to our city,

00:05:33.700 and some a little bit more than others. 0.98

00:05:36.120 this is moronic he does not understand he does not get why this is a bad idea i truly believe that 0.98

00:05:48.600 because he he governs and he became the mayor of new york off of feel-goodism for people who are 1.00

00:05:58.680 ignorant unaccountable and don't want to face reality they want to create some perception they

00:06:06.520 want this utopia future that they'll never achieve but like i said their inability to achieve and 0.98

00:06:13.000 this is what's so important wherever you are oregon georgia arizona maine anywhere and everywhere in

00:06:21.100 between when democrats fail it's your fault it's your fault don't you see you didn't give them

00:06:31.240 enough money you didn't give them enough power you are the weak link in the chain they say 1.00

00:06:37.500 they don't ever want to sit there and look at their idiotic ideas and the history of failure 0.99

00:06:45.340 of those ideas we've got mom donnie saying he's going to open a government funded grocery store 0.99

00:06:51.580 that's going to cost 30 million dollars and take three years to build does anyone uh hear this i

00:06:59.600 mean you you don't know if you should laugh or cry that's crazy but it's all about the idea it's all

00:07:07.460 about pushing this forward it's saying see i am soaking the rich and this is the other part of it

00:07:14.020 as well the politics of envy are not about math you just had tax day yesterday you just had to

00:07:23.300 deal with this many of you i had to write a big check the irs just sucking money out of my bank

00:07:28.720 account um the politics of envy are not about math meaning they will do these things and this

00:07:36.000 was true of obama's true biden this is the democrats really understanding how they view

00:07:41.640 this stuff they would rather try to soak the rich it's very hard to do so which we'll talk about in

00:07:49.560 a second but they would rather target the rich and have less revenue over time than promote pro

00:07:57.720 growth policies and have more revenue because if that more revenue means people doing well

00:08:04.380 continue to do well and even do better that's unacceptable it is about tearing them down

00:08:10.800 It is about blaming them. It's the emotional appeal of this to people in New York.

00:08:17.220 Otherwise, you'd sit there and say, hey, why is housing so expensive?

00:08:21.840 Gee, I don't know. Maybe because of insane regulations the city of New York has.

00:08:27.060 Maybe because the unions drive up the costs of all, all construction in ways that are just incomprehensible.

00:08:34.640 maybe it's because the tax climate is such that developers are having to make all kinds of

00:08:40.780 concessions and deals just to get things done to build more it's a mess and the people telling you

00:08:47.300 in this case mom donnie but this is true in la this is true in new york city this is true all

00:08:52.880 over the country in any urban center really the people telling you it's because the rich don't

00:08:58.480 pay enough they've created the environment that makes it all so expensive the people like mom

00:09:05.040 donnie with his silver-tongued nonsense they promise you that they will address these problems

00:09:11.860 and hope you don't notice they are the cause of the problem and this is where all this blame

00:09:16.700 shifting and understanding the mentality of these people is so powerful and is so important

00:09:21.460 because otherwise you would say okay let's get to this pied-à-terre tax for a second here

00:09:27.320 But does he think – it's very specifically targeted, he says, at homes over $5 million people don't live in.

00:09:33.940 Does he think that there's going to be some downstream effect of this?

00:09:37.240 Has he considered that people – first of all, if you buy a very expensive – obviously a very expensive home, if you buy – in New York City, there's $5 million homes everywhere, as you know.

00:09:50.040 I mean, that's like in Manhattan, that's a nice two- or three-bedroom apartment.

00:09:54.960 Standard, standard three-bedroom apartment of $5 million.

00:09:58.120 In Manhattan, that's not a – there are other states where a $5 million home –

00:10:03.800 if you're in Nebraska, a $5 million home is going to have like a bowling alley.

00:10:08.620 It's going to have a private pond you can water ski on.

00:10:11.560 I mean, you're talking about really probably 12,000 to 16,000 square feet, right?

00:10:17.640 In New York City, it's a three-bedroom apartment.

00:10:20.040 That's how expensive it's gotten there now.

00:10:22.380 But he's saying this is going to help people.

00:10:25.520 Some of the best residents you can have are people who don't use any of your services at all,

00:10:32.340 aren't there that much, and are already paying taxes,

00:10:37.620 have already put a lot of money into the economy.

00:10:41.740 So this might have the effect of people buying fewer of these $5 million homes.

00:10:47.960 This might have the effect of people saying, fine, I'll try to sell it.

00:10:51.980 But then also your other buyers recognize that they're going to be targets for this, too.

00:10:57.200 And so they start putting their money in other places.

00:10:59.980 I got to tell you, a $5 million house down here in South Florida, it's a nice house.

00:11:05.120 It's not a crazy nice house.

00:11:06.700 Won't get you on the water in most places.

00:11:08.880 That's how tight the market has gotten here now.

00:11:12.240 And I mean South Florida pretty broadly, right?

00:11:14.640 I'm just talking about Miami and Naples and some of the fanciest places, Palm Beach.

00:11:19.900 Palm Beach, you can't even get $5 million to get you, like, a glorified outhouse somewhere.

00:11:25.740 It's crazy.

00:11:26.760 So it's gotten so expensive.

00:11:29.380 The money is going to move elsewhere.

00:11:31.600 And you might say, well, why do we care and everything else?

00:11:34.380 Well, because the very decision-making of someone like Imamdani is going to make all this stuff worse.

00:11:42.820 This is what I think you have to remember. It's it's not that they're offering tradeoffs. It's that they're doing things that exacerbate the thing that they claim they are fixing. Right. It'd be one thing if they said, hey, you know, I'm we're we're going to increase we're going to have way more doctors to increase the supply of doctors in New York City. 0.99

00:12:08.400 but we're going to have to raise some taxes for that.

00:12:11.040 I'm just coming up with something on the fly here.

00:12:13.700 You could say, well, look, you're going to have to raise taxes a lot

00:12:16.220 and this program, is it even going to...

00:12:17.880 But you would at least theoretically have more doctors,

00:12:20.200 so maybe that's a good thing.

00:12:21.780 For Mamdani, capping rent, putting these wealth taxes,

00:12:26.580 and that's exactly what this is, putting these things in place,

00:12:29.360 will make the affordability crisis worse,

00:12:32.940 will make the long-term fiscal projections of New York City worse.

00:12:38.400 And this is, again, that key. And he knows it and he doesn't care and he still wants to do it. It is about punishing your perceived class enemies. It is about every person who lives in New York channeling who is frustrated about costs, who is frustrated about their economics situation.

00:12:58.640 instead of being angry at the bureaucracy and the high taxes there,

00:13:03.160 which is a very reasonable position, thinking, yeah,

00:13:06.740 if only Ken Griffin paid more in taxes,

00:13:09.220 I could afford to send my kids to that Catholic school

00:13:12.700 or that religious school in my neighborhood.

00:13:15.100 It's Ken Griffin's fault.

00:13:17.240 It's not Ken Griffin's fault. 1.00

00:13:18.820 This is idiotic. 1.00

00:13:20.420 In fact, he's a job creator who's bought a lot of properties 1.00

00:13:23.420 and moving a lot of cash around and creating a lot of actual wealth.

00:13:28.640 But at the same time, you can see now why it never gets better with these people.

00:13:34.840 You can see why after de Blasio to Adams, you know, Adams was we should appreciate him, I guess, more than we did at some level, because while he was incompetent, he wasn't he wasn't nefarious.

00:13:48.960 He wasn't intentionally ruining New York City.

00:13:51.840 He just wasn't a very good mayor.

00:13:53.580 We are now back to, for ideological reasons, 0.52

00:13:56.440 Mondani intentionally ruining New York.

00:14:01.320 He thinks he's saving it, of course,

00:14:02.700 but I can assure you this is only going to one place

00:14:05.440 and it will be a bad place.

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00:15:29.080 All right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

00:15:33.080 Our buddy Ryan Gruduski joins us.

00:15:36.280 It's a Numbers Game is his podcast, and it has numbers rocketing up the charts, my friends.

00:15:42.000 The more you guys want to listen, or rather the more you listen, the more you love it,

00:15:45.900 because you learn political insights.

00:15:47.820 If you learn things that people don't know out there, because we brought in Ryan to be our guy who looks at the data, separates the signal from the noise.

00:15:56.140 It's a numbers game is that podcast on the Clay and Buck Network.

00:15:58.760 You definitely want to check that out.

00:16:00.420 Mr. Gurdusky, always a pleasure to have you on, sir.

00:16:03.320 Thanks for making the time.

00:16:05.180 Thank you for having me on.

00:16:07.020 Let's let's dive into this.

00:16:08.420 If you would, if you would for me, Ryan, the what happens now as you see it in the California governor's race?

00:16:17.820 With the Swalwell. First off, would you agree that the demolition of Swalwell was the fastest, most effective crushing of a political future we've ever seen in the shortest period of time?

00:16:30.140 Maybe there's somebody else who comes to mind. Let me know.

00:16:32.300 And then what happens now among those Democrat candidates?

00:16:36.100 We got these Republicans like Steve Hilton, who we had on because I think a lot of eyes because of the Swalwell, in a sense, has gotten even more attention on the governor's race,

00:16:45.320 because that's obviously a big part of why he was on the radar in the first place.

00:16:50.740 So walk us through this.

00:16:51.960 What happens in your mind?

00:16:54.180 Well, yes, so Slawwell's, I mean, Slawwell's demise was extremely fast.

00:16:58.480 I mean, even Anthony Weiner was able to hold on for longer periods of time.

00:17:01.640 And I thought, honestly, Slawwell was going to stay in the governor's race no matter what.

00:17:04.920 I guess losing all of his supporters was too much for his ego to handle.

00:17:09.300 And it was the biggest whisper in Washington, D.C.

00:17:11.540 Everyone had heard stories about Slawwell for a very long time.

00:17:14.280 So it's not surprising.

00:17:15.960 Slalwell's support has been splintered now among a lot of different candidates.

00:17:19.720 Bexera is now gaining a lot of support.

00:17:23.540 There's another candidate who's a San Jose mayor who's gained a little bit of his support.

00:17:27.220 And obviously Tom Steyer, who's spending a gajillion dollars to become the governor, has got a lot of support.

00:17:32.580 Here's the problem where Republicans face right now.

00:17:34.480 Republicans in the latest Emerson poll are the first and second leading candidate.

00:17:38.920 If whoever comes to the top two goes on to the general election,

00:17:42.360 That means they will lock out the Democrats out of the governorship and one of the Republicans

00:17:46.520 will become governor.

00:17:47.820 The problem is, is of the undecided voters who are left, the smallest pool of undecided

00:17:52.520 voters are Republicans.

00:17:53.960 Republicans, 90 percent know who they're voting for.

00:17:56.760 There's only 10 percent left versus about a quarter of Democrats and a quarter of independents.

00:18:01.780 For a Republican to kind of milk out whatever juice they can, they really need to slice

00:18:08.400 into about a third of the independent vote that's left.

00:18:11.200 That's going to be kind of difficult. In the last two governor's races, Republicans got around 40, 41 percent of the vote in California.

00:18:18.580 There's maybe eight points left to be generous left for the two leading Republican candidates.

00:18:24.400 The rest are going to go to Democrats. If it's divided equally, which probably is not going to happen, then they are making the lock of the Democrat.

00:18:32.040 Aside from that, I see probably either a Steyer or, you know, maybe a Bexera coming in second place.

00:18:38.800 We'll see, though. So you're pretty. Look, we would love it if our friend Steve Hilton could pull this off.

00:18:45.800 But it sounds like it's a really overwhelming favorite that it will be a Democrat, even with it.

00:18:51.560 And maybe it makes it easy. Do you buy, by the way, that the Swalwell push out demolition, whatever you want to call it,

00:18:59.940 was because at some level he made things such a mess for the Democrats by the numbers?

00:19:04.920 or was the timing more coincidental the women just were sick of seeing his face on tv and the

00:19:10.460 media realized he's not a protected one anymore i think that no one took him seriously until he

00:19:16.160 was leading in all the polls and all the unions are rallying around him and i think a number of

00:19:19.800 women were like wow he really can't be governor i think that i don't think that no anyone took

00:19:24.540 him as seriously as that he was going to be the next governor until the polls shot up in his favor

00:19:28.980 now his name will by like will appear on the ballot they can't take that off so there'll be

00:19:33.380 some vote that will go slow well just because his name will be on the in the print um i don't think

00:19:38.860 it was like this inside coordinated effect because if that was true they would have done it before

00:19:42.560 his name was printed on the ballot to get you know to stop anyone from kind of voting for him

00:19:46.660 by accident even so i don't believe it was an inside job i think the women were coming forward

00:19:50.800 i know people who have come forward on different occasions for different things and it's less

00:19:55.840 politically planned than likely hilton hilton is the most likely to make it to a general election

00:20:00.960 The question is, does Bianco maybe get three or four more points in the primary to join him in that general election?

00:20:08.960 I really think that that's really the big question and where that number goes.

00:20:12.920 So, I mean, it has to really be perfect for the Republicans to lock up the Democrats.

00:20:17.920 Now, talk to me about how Trump is doing.

00:20:20.820 And obviously that will affect Republicans' fortunes tremendously in the midterms.

00:20:25.980 or I would think they would, with this Iran situation continuing to now,

00:20:31.940 it's ongoing, we're not blowing up stuff, we say we might blow up more stuff, 0.66

00:20:35.840 we've got this blockade in place in the strait.

00:20:38.380 It does look like Iran is somewhat cornered right now on this.

00:20:42.520 I know CNN and others want to tell everybody that Trump is bleeding support

00:20:46.300 and it's a disaster and everything else, but is that the case?

00:20:49.500 Are we really seeing that?

00:20:50.880 Or if things stay pretty status quo on this and oil prices don't go to 120 dollars a barrel or something, is this not going to matter all that much in the fall?

00:21:03.200 How do you see that?

00:21:05.040 Well, Trump's numbers have fallen.

00:21:06.920 I mean, but the good thing for Republicans is, is they've kind of plateaued around in the mid to high 30s.

00:21:13.160 Not where you want to be, not for the midterm elections, for sure.

00:21:16.420 But we haven't seen another drop like it wasn't like the Bush years where all of a sudden he went to the high 20s.

00:21:21.960 They've kind of stayed between the mid and the high 30s.

00:21:24.760 A lot of coalition around Trump that's falling apart are people who make less than $50,000 a year, young people and Latinos.

00:21:31.480 And there's a lot of crossover among those three groups really have led support.

00:21:35.680 The one good thing is, is that among older people, there hasn't been as much bleeding.

00:21:41.400 What I think right now Republicans should really be doing is talking about who's getting cash rebates and their taxes because of the new tax law, especially workers who get those tax on tips.

00:21:50.920 Very popular, and some people have told me that it's like a life-changing amount of money that they've gotten back.

00:21:55.460 So I would be campaigning right now on the economy and talking about the economy.

00:21:58.880 The economy really hinges on everything.

00:22:00.960 People don't like the foreign policy not because they think that Iran's going to win or not because they're rooting for Iran because they feel like it's a distraction from the economy.

00:22:08.740 It really all goes back to how is the economy doing?

00:22:12.840 And they look at the jobs, the job numbers not being terrific overall.

00:22:16.560 Last month was pretty good, though.

00:22:17.860 They look at the wage growth.

00:22:18.940 They look at the inflation and they say, where is what you promise?

00:22:21.860 It's all really going down to the economy.

00:22:23.880 And if you can kind of make this miracle of the economy come back from the first term.

00:22:28.500 And now you have an announcement for this audience that I wanted to give you the opportunity to tell everybody about, because it certainly ties into a critical issue of the moment.

00:22:37.560 What have you got cooking? What do you got cooking, Ryan?

00:22:40.860 So I launched a new pack, a new super pack called Homeland Pack and go to HomelandPack.com.

00:22:45.280 And basically what I'm doing now, after decades of Republicans promising strong borders and immigration enforcement, they have broken their promises time and time again.

00:22:54.440 And we've seen now with Maria Salazar, the latest bill to bring amnesty to illegal aliens.

00:22:59.620 And so this pack was created to one, defend Republicans who are really good on immigration and two, to defeat Republicans in primaries who are really bad.

00:23:06.920 There are millions of dollars swirling around from special interest groups, from big corporations to promote amnesty, to promote cheap labor.

00:23:13.500 I'm going to do the opposite.

00:23:14.780 I'm going to do it with, you know, hopefully some big donors will come my way, but also from grassroots donors, the way I did with the 1776 Project PAC, I want to do with Homeland PAC and make sure we defeat these Republicans who are supporting amnesty.

00:23:26.960 We can't afford an amnesty, not even Salazar's quote unquote skinny amnesty.

00:23:30.960 It will all come down to citizenship on a massive level, and we will be in a situation like we are in California.

00:23:36.480 We can't afford any more amnesty. So Homeland PAC dot com will go out.

00:23:40.900 It's specifically only about immigration, defending Republicans who are good in immigration and beating them who are bad in immigration.

00:23:47.900 Speaking about immigration, and you mentioned Tom Steyer before, who I like to tell everybody, Tom Steyer is an inspiration because it's a reminder to all Americans that you, too, can become a billionaire,

00:24:00.760 even if you have no wisdom, no personality, and no redeeming quality in your politics whatsoever.

00:24:08.940 So there's that.

00:24:10.340 He's really a climate change wackadoo, which is easy when you're flying around on private jets and everything else.

00:24:17.420 But his immigration policy, as it would be for the governor of California if he were to become that,

00:24:24.040 I read this and I thought to myself, is this too crazy even for California?

00:24:28.580 or how does the democrat party message this i mean it was you know what i'm talking about he's

00:24:34.160 put out this new immigration blueprint for california which obviously it's a federal issue 0.91

00:24:38.860 and i look at this i'm saying this guy tom steyer is is nuts like no lessons have been learned by

00:24:44.080 democrats at all on immigration it feels like they just want to double down on all the failures of

00:24:48.920 the past and the biggest irony is tom steyer's portfolio financial portfolio is a lot on

00:24:55.120 immigration because he works with the private prisons who apprehend and deport

00:25:00.100 illegal immigrants.

00:25:01.360 So everything about him is utterly fraudulent. 1.00

00:25:04.100 Yeah, he makes a lot of money because of deporting illegal aliens.

00:25:07.180 Can I pause you for just to give you some of the things?

00:25:09.620 So his for his gubernatorial campaign, we have abolish ICE, put ICE in jail and all

00:25:18.200 cooperation with federal law enforcement, a legal defense fund, which I think is

00:25:23.160 taxpayer funded sent uh sent out to make sure that deportations are effectively impossible so

00:25:28.940 like california is going to have its own defense fund uh and legalizing uh like reinstating daca

00:25:36.780 and dapa like the guy's the governor not the president but he's as he's as far left on

00:25:41.720 immigration as i think anybody in the democrat party is right now yeah well he's trying to put

00:25:46.840 out a flank he can't do like any of those things like i mean i guess he can create a public fund

00:25:51.360 in california aside from that he can't do a single solitary one of these promises and i think his

00:25:56.700 investment portfolio according to fox news was 250 million dollars he's made off of the detention

00:26:01.500 of illegal immigrants so he has a financial incentive not even to do any of these things

00:26:06.640 he's he's he's become wealthier than almost every you know the 99.9 percent of americans because

00:26:12.220 they're deporting illegal aliens yeah this is listen he's trying to corner to make sure no one

00:26:17.460 can get further left from him on an issue that galvanizes not just a group of Hispanics in the

00:26:22.720 ethnic lobby but also angry white liberals who have made hating ICE equal to hating the president

00:26:29.160 and that's really what he's trying to signal to is I will be your ultimate advocate I'm going to do

00:26:33.480 the most radical things against the federal government I mean he might as well be saying

00:26:37.720 you know he's going to do what they did in Ruby Ridge with attacking federal agents it doesn't

00:26:41.640 work out in your favor you have no ability to do any of those things but it's not about like having

00:26:45.780 a coherent message of what you can do it's all about trust trying to fight trump what's next for

00:26:50.740 it's a numbers game you've already got something in the docket or you're still figuring out what

00:26:55.500 numbers you want to crunch a deep dive on the virginia election why is abigail spamburger's

00:27:01.120 numbers crashing who is leaving her coalition remember virginia has local state legislative

00:27:06.960 elections in 2027 and the democrats have a one-seat majority in the state senate so you know

00:27:12.640 Can there be a referendum on Abigail Spanberger?

00:27:14.600 How is it looking for the referendum?

00:27:16.280 Why is it so close?

00:27:17.680 Where can this happen?

00:27:18.940 And it's going to be a great episode, so I'm looking forward to that coming out.

00:27:21.800 Just real quick on that.

00:27:23.160 Is it something, has it become clear to enough voters in Virginia, you think, that Spanberger ran as like, hey, I'm just like a mom and a moderate? 0.55

00:27:33.740 And then as soon as she was in power, it was like, I am a Marxist lunatic.

00:27:37.220 Who wants to take your guns and raise your taxes?

00:27:39.340 Well, the interesting thing is Spanberger is losing support from both low income voters and high income voters.

00:27:45.960 And we're seeing with the referendum on redistricting a 41 point flip away from Spanberger from she won independence by 17 points.

00:27:54.600 Right now, the referendum is losing independence by 24 points, a tremendous 41 point shift among that group in just six months.

00:28:03.320 I think I think her presidential ambitions are really coming to a close very, very quickly in this administration.

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00:29:31.500 Preset Clay and Buck on the iHeart app.

00:29:34.560 Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.

00:29:37.400 You know, we were just talking a few minutes ago about my friend Ryan Gerdusky of our podcast network

00:29:41.940 and his pack that is going to try to primary.

00:29:45.680 People always ask, you know, how can you do anything about these Republicans betraying this and all this?

00:29:50.900 well you can primary them you can primary republicans who don't keep their word that's a 0.54

00:29:58.880 very good place to start in fact one of the worst things that i think the gop party faithful do

00:30:04.020 in politically speaking is just get lazy and just vote for this incumbent

00:30:08.760 year well not year after year but uh election after election and then they complain and then

00:30:15.820 they see them on fox news and they go oh i'll still vote for that guy because he's on fox news

00:30:19.840 sometimes i go well but just because he says the right things on fox maybe gets decent ratings when

00:30:25.720 he does or she does depends doesn't mean that this is the person you want representing your

00:30:31.720 state or your district in the united states congress right i mean we can understand the

00:30:37.060 difference in that i would i would think but sure enough gop primary voters can be quite a bit on

00:30:43.160 the on the lazy side about this stuff but i bring you this on the immigration front uh this is

00:30:50.340 bill malugian from fox news reporting six house republicans have voted with democrats

00:30:57.560 to advance uh and this was yesterday to advance representative ayanna presley

00:31:04.420 her temporary protected status for Haitians extension for three more years.

00:31:12.820 The motion passed, 219 to 209.

00:31:17.440 It will go down to a final House vote.

00:31:19.760 Guys, check on this when the final House vote is,

00:31:21.680 because this was from yesterday.

00:31:22.560 This is today, I assume, at some point.

00:31:24.900 The six House GOP members to vote with Democrats were

00:31:28.480 Representative Don Bacon of Nebraska,

00:31:33.080 this is every radio host nightmare when they only have the state with the initials and it's like a

00:31:39.220 little bit of a it's like a high school or not even high school a grade school social studies

00:31:43.800 test can i get all the florida i can get right fl representative maria salazar florida carlos

00:31:50.560 uh jimenez florida brian fitzpatrick pennsylvania mike lawler new york nicole maliotakis new york 0.99

00:32:02.100 I'm a little surprised to see Representative Mellie attack us on there. 0.99

00:32:06.520 Huh. Interesting. OK.

00:32:10.240 Anyway, there's also a Kevin Kiley, who's a California independent, but caucuses with Republicans.

00:32:17.140 He voted for Democrats. Let's talk about this issue for a second, and then we can talk about more of keeping order on our side on the immigration issue

00:32:28.160 and not letting this stuff slip away and not letting betrayals happen

00:32:32.380 that will go politically unpunished.

00:32:34.960 The idea that Haitians should get their protected status continued

00:32:41.140 is on its face absurd.

00:32:45.920 You'll notice that the statute or the statutory authority here

00:32:50.500 is temporary protected status.

00:32:54.680 Temporary protected status.

00:32:56.240 as in it does not last forever and yet temporary protected status haitians have been here in this

00:33:05.620 country since you want to guess say it out loud if you want january 2010 january 350 000 people

00:33:19.040 350,000 Haitians have had their had their temporary protected status extended over 16 years.

00:33:29.640 I think we're going to have to change this.

00:33:33.160 We can't call it TPS or temporary protected status because it is clearly not being treated as temporary.

00:33:41.680 DHS announced a termination of this for August 3rd of 2025, but a court stayed that term.

00:33:47.960 so the courts won't let us end it obviously some activist judge the democrats and even some

00:33:54.940 republicans want to extend it why this is not supposed to be a backdoor immigration policy

00:34:03.100 but that's exactly what it has been treated as as in we call it temporary but then they stay forever

00:34:09.900 same kind of game they play with asylum oh they're just applying for asylum if they don't get it

00:34:16.360 they'll leave they know that's not true when they don't get asylum they just disappear into the

00:34:21.060 american interior they don't send they don't show up at their hearings it is a backdoor illegal way

00:34:28.260 to get permanent status in america people say oh it's legal when they apply for asylum not when

00:34:33.020 they don't show up for hearings which a huge percentage of them don't but how can we have a

00:34:38.520 country when so much when half of the voters roughly maybe it's less than half call it 45

00:34:45.340 But certainly one of the two major political parties and a slew of NGOs, including taxpayer-enabled, if not funded NGOs, a slew of left-wing activist groups.

00:35:01.780 And they all want, and of course the judges, a lot of left-wing judges, they want to make it impossible to enforce immigration law.

00:35:10.780 You can go back to Plato's The Republic on this.

00:35:13.880 is a law that is not enforced really a law does at what point does it cease to be a law

00:35:19.520 i think we've seen this now tested many times over on on immigration and the uh the this

00:35:26.940 extension of temporary protected status no the the american people were very nice

00:35:32.820 very nice to allow 350 000 haitians to stay here for 16 years

00:35:39.380 haiti has been an independent country i believe it's the second oldest democracy in the western

00:35:45.880 hemisphere haiti has been an independent country for a long time and they got to fix their own

00:35:53.460 problems so the extension of this clearly these some of these republicans i would think must have

00:36:00.100 some haitian diaspora community or tps diaspora community in their district and so this is pure

00:36:06.400 politics for them i would guess that's certainly the case for some of the uh like the new york

00:36:10.720 representative that i mentioned but uh now this brings me to something else we we've had on the

00:36:15.640 show and i'm i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one but we have had on the show

00:36:21.000 and and enjoyed talking to him uh former senator now dhs secretary mark wayne mullen

00:36:27.180 uh who has seemed like a good guy i do not agree with some of his uh commentary about

00:36:35.000 Rand Paul's attack, just to be clear.

00:36:37.300 I think some of that was just over the line

00:36:39.100 nasty. Now, he's allowed, he has the First

00:36:41.020 Amendment, he's allowed to say it, but I think it was kind of 0.99

00:36:43.100 jerk stuff to say. 0.97

00:36:45.040 But put that aside for a second.

00:36:47.660 Mark Wayne, I think,

00:36:49.280 aligns with this show

00:36:50.940 on a vast majority

00:36:53.040 of issues,

00:36:54.860 and that is what is most important to me for a

00:36:56.960 DHS secretary. That

00:36:58.980 and competency. I think

00:37:00.720 Kristi Noem had alignment 1.00

00:37:03.060 because she just does whatever. She was trying 1.00

00:37:04.960 to do whatever Trump told her to do, which is fine, did not have competency and, of course,

00:37:09.720 had a lot of vulnerabilities, shall we say, politically and otherwise, that came to the

00:37:17.240 forefront. So I'm just going to say that DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen went on Fox News

00:37:22.700 and he said this, and I want to push a little bit on this. Play 11.

00:37:28.220 They take advantage of the United States' generosity, but the problem is that we want

00:37:33.200 immigration we want legal immigration people that want to make the country stronger we're a nation

00:37:37.220 of immigrants we understand the right kind of immigrants the right kind i don't like that we're

00:37:42.900 a nation of immigrants thing it's really not true we're a nation of americans actually i mean there

00:37:48.180 are immigrants here who have joined the american family over time but this idea that because here's

00:37:53.940 what this if we're a nation of immigrants do we become something else if we don't keep bringing

00:37:58.380 in immigrants i think we've had too much immigration in recent decades i think the

00:38:03.740 numbers bear that out quite clearly and i think that it puts major strain on the forces the 1.00

00:38:09.780 societal uh political economic and historic forces that tie us together in what the ancient greeks

00:38:18.340 would have called the polity right a political and ideological union some sense of a cohesive

00:38:24.500 thing that is america and that binds together the american people and we know that we've been

00:38:31.740 in europe they've been forced to really think about this if you have some uh country like

00:38:36.620 sweden with 10 million 10 million swedes well if you put 5 million iraqis which they didn't have

00:38:42.220 that many but if you put 5 million iraqis in a country with 10 million swedes it's a different

00:38:46.040 country the place changes right so that that people have had to see play out in real time 0.55

00:38:51.780 they can understand that we've had far too much illegal immigration we've probably had far too

00:38:56.280 much legal immigration oh no i believe we have people can disagree on that but on the illegal

00:39:01.680 side and i think they'd be wrong for disagreeing but that's okay on the illegal side there's no

00:39:06.320 question that we have been inundated we have been swamped with illegal crossings uh and and

00:39:12.780 overstays and other evasions of our immigration laws in this country so we want legal immigration

00:39:19.880 Yes, as a general matter, we want legal immigration. The secretary of DHS is correct in that.

00:39:26.240 Should we have a conversation about having less legal immigration at this point in America? 0.96

00:39:31.400 Yes, we really should get to a this is just people who are contributing and making America better, more prosperous, safer, smarter, all of those things.

00:39:43.640 And we better be really sure that that's what we're getting.

00:39:46.540 and that means a slower and more vetted process it means a lot less chain migration i was just

00:39:55.120 hearing from somebody the other day oh you know my in my country we uh we my my parents or one of

00:40:01.980 my parents won a like a green card lottery thing and now the whole family of like eight people is

00:40:06.960 being sponsored to come here so just understand when they say oh there's a green card lottery

00:40:12.340 with, I don't know what the number is, you know,

00:40:14.120 the tens of thousands of people.

00:40:16.740 But there's this whole effort then to bring the whole family, too.

00:40:20.800 And that's often the case with people, whether it's they're here for a whole

00:40:25.940 range of different temporary lawful reasons.

00:40:30.580 H-1B visas is another example of this.

00:40:33.600 Why will H-1B visa holders take less pay than people doing the same work? 0.99

00:40:41.360 because they will and we know that why are they more malleable to the wishes of management hence 0.92

00:40:49.860 why they are preferable for some unscrupulous american businesses in hiring well it is because

00:40:56.920 their status is tied to that visa which means it's harder for them to move around people say

00:41:03.220 oh no they can't no it is harder but also they can get to the front of the green card line

00:41:08.940 and then if they get that then they can start to try to sponsor more of their family to come in

00:41:14.260 which is a huge benefit so yeah getting paid 15 or 20 percent under market to do clerical work for

00:41:20.920 a few years that feels a whole lot more attractive to somebody from a third world country

00:41:26.680 if they think they can stay forever and then bring their whole family in here this is why

00:41:31.540 the immigration issue is i think the most important issue in the country right now

00:41:36.660 It should be the most important issue to voters. And the Trump administration has done some very good things on this. But the job is unfinished, to be sure, not even close to finished.

00:41:49.480 So the DHS secretary were a nation of immigrants. That is a that is really a non-truth. It's not untrue, but as a non-truth or is an incomplete truth to say about this country. 0.97

00:42:03.680 And and it plays right into the rhetoric of Democrats. They're the ones that have been saying this for so long. We're a nation of immigrants. No, really, we're a nation of founders, of pioneers, of builders, of people who came here without the promise of endless welfare benefits, without a DEI infrastructure ready to claim victimhood for them at the hands of America.

00:42:28.160 even though they came to America because they have a skin color that falls into the protected classes of DEI here.

00:42:37.680 It's a very different thing to show up in America today than it was to show up in 1920 or 1820 or 1720, for that matter.

00:42:46.340 It's a very different thing that people face.

00:42:49.520 And treating it as similar, treating a voyage on a wooden ship that ends up with people landing at Plymouth Rock,

00:42:58.160 where they face death the entire voyage from disease, from shipwreck, from any number of things,

00:43:04.080 as similar to I scraped together 200 bucks to get on a cheap international flight and now I'm in America.

00:43:10.720 There's an insult to our intelligence that occurs with that.

00:43:15.440 So we should not be going around saying we're a nation of immigrants.

00:43:20.040 We're a nation that allows some immigrants and has had waves of immigration,

00:43:23.880 but historically has also had stops in the immigration waves

00:43:30.040 to allow Americans to be America, or rather, America to be of Americans.

00:43:36.860 That is a thing that happens in our history as well.

00:43:40.080 So I want clarity on that one.

00:43:42.180 I think Mark Wayne is aligned.

00:43:44.720 I think he's going to do a good job,

00:43:48.120 but we shouldn't be going around on TV as Republicans in this moment,

00:43:51.520 I think, saying we're a nation of immigrants. 0.97

00:43:53.480 Might as well say, oh, illegals do the jobs Americans won't do. 1.00

00:43:57.440 Another thing that they love to say. 0.99

00:43:59.140 Or immigrants have a lower crime rate than Americans. 1.00

00:44:01.880 Another thing they like to say. 1.00

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00:46:12.980 Welcome back in here, Clay and Buck.

00:46:15.300 We'll have some of the cuts here that we didn't play from that impromptu press conference, if you will.

00:46:26.880 Trump taking a whole range of questions outside of the White House with the chopper going to the background.

00:46:35.040 Get to the chopper.

00:46:36.840 And we have a bunch of you sending in all kinds of talkbacks and thoughts.

00:46:43.120 And we'll take some of your calls, too, on where this is all going.

00:46:46.180 But look, you know that I'm I come from a background of somebody who saw things not going well, put it mildly, up close and personal in both Iraq and Afghanistan, Democrat and Republican administrations, I might add.

00:47:00.920 So anytime we're talking about war, I just approach it with a I don't approach it with a pessimistic view. 0.61

00:47:10.200 I just it's very much a trust but verify situation for me, because if we're going to put our people in harm's way, if we're going to be using the military to take life, thousands of lives abroad, we should be asking questions and be darn short the right way.

00:47:26.600 I have had my moments of questioning and even some skepticism of some of what's gone on with Trump and Iran. 0.54

00:47:37.060 But if this embargo, I'm sorry, blockade, if this blockade holds of just Iran in the strait, and so Iran is no longer using that as leverage, it becomes our greatest point of leverage against Iran.

00:47:52.300 if that holds and their economy i would assume is going to start to spiral

00:47:59.040 and then you add to that perhaps additional airstrikes not clear on what they would be

00:48:05.220 i wonder how long the iranians can hold on with that i think that they had assumed that there may

00:48:11.960 be and again when i say the iranians it was it is true what that caller said before we're talking

00:48:17.920 about the iranian government our our beef the world's beef but america specifically our beef

00:48:25.120 with the and israel uh the iranians is with the security services the government the military

00:48:31.420 it's not with someone who lives in a yeah uh modest house in uh isfahan or something and

00:48:40.120 it's just trying to go teach sunday and not well not sunday school but teach well maybe but uh but

00:48:45.580 go to you know teach grammar school is what i meant to say that that's not our problem that's

00:48:49.060 not our beef we're not trying to hurt people who have had no effect on iranian policy and and in

00:48:55.040 many cases want the regime gone of course as we know we saw that with those protests that were out

00:48:59.320 in the streets um but this is let's go to cut 26 here for a second trump is sounding very

00:49:07.080 positive here on this deal and the prospect for a deal play 26

00:49:14.180 We're doing very well, I can tell you. Maybe it'll happen before that. I'm not sure it needs to be extended. Iran wants to make a deal and we're dealing very nicely with them. We've got to have no nuclear weapons. If we do, that's a big factor. And they're willing to do things today that they weren't willing to do two months ago.

00:49:41.220 So he is straight up telling us that there is progress in the negotiations in terms of concessions the Iranians are willing to make. 0.78

00:49:50.880 Now, this could all be part of the Iranian positioning, the Iranian play for time strategy. 0.51

00:49:57.680 But I think that the reason Trump is out there saying this right now is because he knows, and this is what I'm seeing too,

00:50:06.220 if this situation with the Strait holds,

00:50:09.400 the pressure valve is now really one way.

00:50:14.240 The issues of the Strait of Hormuz have become far more powerful

00:50:19.500 for the Iranian regime than they are for us

00:50:22.780 in terms of the way to either sit this out or turn up the heat,

00:50:28.900 whatever it may be, or wait this out, I mean.

00:50:31.700 So that's where we are with the Iran deal.

00:50:34.240 We'll see if it actually ends up happening.

00:50:36.220 and trump also has said that he would go to pakistan this was some news that was just

00:50:40.920 broken a few minutes ago this is 27 he says he would go to pakistan to complete a deal if one is

00:50:46.080 ready to be done would you ever go to pakistan to deal the deal yourself i would i would go to

00:50:52.220 pakistan has been great they've been so good islamabad i'll be i might go yeah if the deal

00:51:00.040 is signed in islamabad i might go the field marshal has been great the prime minister has

00:51:05.500 been really great in pakistan so i bet and if he gets a deal maybe trump tower islamabad but you'd

00:51:12.900 know that better than anybody it's a beautiful tower he'd build the most beautiful uh i've never

00:51:18.660 been to islamabad i hear it's not great but uh yeah trump is saying that he would go himself

00:51:25.220 because he would recognize we would all recognize the historic nature of that kind of an agreement

00:51:31.940 And he certainly wants to be there. He understands he understands all the implications of getting this to that point.

00:51:39.180 But I am I am more optimistic now than I still think there's going to be an extension of the ceasefire, to be clear.

00:51:45.260 But I'm more optimistic that at the end of this, Trump is going to get something closer to what he wants than I was before because of the of the change, the change about that we've been discussing today.

00:51:56.340 Now, the Artemis crew, the Artemis 2 crew, is talking about their moon mission.

00:52:04.360 I'm not a big, like, producer Greg, I think Clay also, Clay has more of the,

00:52:12.600 and I mean this in a good way, the childlike wonder when it comes to space exploration and astronauts.

00:52:17.900 Like, he loves all that stuff.

00:52:19.640 And I am a little more like, okay, I'm glad we're doing big things again.

00:52:23.820 And I'm glad that we are also really in the early stages of building out true space exploration infrastructure.

00:52:35.820 Now, SpaceX is a huge piece of that equation.

00:52:40.260 But getting us to go on this or getting this historic moon mission done, it's cool.

00:52:47.040 And, you know, there's a lot to go.

00:52:48.940 producer greg do you want to come on and tell tell me tell me why the artemis 2 is is he in

00:52:54.400 studio right now or am i catching him i'm here i'm here he's not grabbing shake shack all right

00:52:58.840 producer greg producer greg artemis 2 they're talking about this why should a salty old dog

00:53:05.960 like me care that much about this mission sell me on this thing it's about the human exploration

00:53:14.360 and what we can achieve, the technology and the whole thing coming together,

00:53:21.920 what it takes to produce something like this.

00:53:25.140 I mean, a rocket like that going to the moon is probably the most sophisticated piece of machinery

00:53:32.620 with so many different working parts at every one time, with so many points of failure that could happen.

00:53:38.540 And the fact that they're able to get it to go together and to go to the moon

00:53:44.220 in this case, around the moon, and then hopefully in a few more years actually land on the moon again,

00:53:49.960 just stretches us as people, as human, as Americans,

00:53:58.040 and to show that we can do it, regain some of the prize that we lost.

00:54:03.320 So here's, okay, Producer Greg, I mean, I'm hoping NASA doesn't snatch you up to do comms for them

00:54:08.400 because you're doing an excellent job explaining, as I said, the childlike wonder that so many have about that.

00:54:13.500 but here's my thing we've already been to the moon we we did this so isn't this a little bit

00:54:20.240 like the second person to uh to summit mount everest like the first person it's oh my gosh

00:54:25.160 the second person it's okay that was hard but didn't we already get there like well help me

00:54:30.180 with that okay real quick who was the first person to walk on the moon neil armstrong who was the

00:54:35.780 second i don't know buzz aldrin you don't there we go you've heard his name though right yeah yeah

00:54:42.380 Of course. So I'm not like an astronaut hater. I'm just not as I don't get as fired up about this.

00:54:47.180 Here's my here's my point that that just because this is the second time we're going, doesn't just because Buzz Aldrin is the second person to step foot on the moon, doesn't make the accomplishment any less important or less significant.

00:54:58.520 and two two more things this is a first step to get back to to get to mars in order to to do this

00:55:06.800 to to get to mars what elon wants to do what trump wants to do what we need to be doing as a human

00:55:14.200 species to expand ourselves beyond earth to stretch our knowledge and our boundaries um getting to the

00:55:20.620 moon is the first step because the gravity is lighter the opportunities for uh mining some of

00:55:25.600 materials we need water and other things it's a better place to launch from than earth so that's

00:55:31.720 that's the next thing so this is all a stepping stone to get on to mars and beyond to expand

00:55:37.780 ourselves into the 22nd century and beyond that was really good producer greg thank you i'm i'm

00:55:45.200 quite quite sold on the prospect of this being uh very exciting to people thank you so much for

00:55:50.460 that so there you go see when you have it's a little like a scully and molder situation you

00:55:55.480 know if you got a little bit of a skeptic about that you got to bring in the believer and greg

00:55:58.660 is a greg is a believer and in this one i was really just being honest with him i wasn't i

00:56:03.080 wasn't pretending like when i pretend to hate hockey just to get him and producer mark all

00:56:07.600 fired up at me because then they want to throw me into the boards and pull my jersey over my head

00:56:11.660 um but yes this this was uh this is a big a big step for for mankind i suppose even though we've

00:56:17.960 taken the similar step before so that's interesting to me i still think thank you greg that that was

00:56:22.400 great uh i still think that um it would be really interesting for clay and i to get down

00:56:27.660 to spacex and i'd like to find a way to work that out we got to reach out to elon's team and

00:56:33.020 and see because i have heard from people who have been down there you know i saw uh i i i went and

00:56:40.100 actually met with the uh secretary of war and and saw some of his team as you guys know at cape

00:56:47.280 canaveral and and saw the nasa facility there and the the rocket and oh this i actually saw this

00:56:52.220 rocket i actually went and saw the rocket uh that's right all right i'm pretty sure that was

00:56:57.480 the one that i saw was about to be the one that they used i have a photo of me standing in front

00:57:01.220 of the artemis 2 uh i should have put that together before this so yes um i've been there

00:57:06.640 the blue origin facility was was pretty cool but you know i want to see the spacex facility

00:57:13.500 SpaceX, they're like the bad boys of space exploration.

00:57:18.100 They're just going for it.

00:57:19.600 They're doing really cool stuff.

00:57:20.780 So I'm going to go check that out.

00:57:22.420 And that will be something that we'll put on the radar here for the show.

00:57:26.480 I think we'll have to put that ahead of the Greenland show,

00:57:30.740 which now we don't hear about whatever happened to Greenland.

00:57:33.580 Greenland was going to be ours, and now it's not.

00:57:35.840 So sad.

00:57:36.780 I thought we'd be able to go and check that out.

00:57:39.780 I'm going to close out here with some calls, some thoughts from all of you.

00:57:42.100 If you want to talk space programs, if you want to either reiterate,

00:57:45.460 I think most of you are probably on producer Greg's wavelength that this is amazing, this is incredible.

00:57:50.960 And I do think space exploration is about to do incredible things

00:57:54.180 or becoming more amazing as we go along here.

00:57:57.320 And I think Elon is going to get us to Mars.

00:57:59.660 We are going to become multi-planetary in our lifetime.

00:58:02.140 I do believe that.

00:58:04.000 And we have visionaries like Elon Musk who are just doing things that are truly amazing.

00:58:10.420 so that's all very very cool i'm sure a lot of you feel that way about this but to me they're

00:58:16.680 like we're going to get back to the moon i was kind of like well we've been to the moon right

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