00:05:33.700and some a little bit more than others.0.64
00:05:36.120this is moronic he does not understand he does not get why this is a bad idea i truly believe that0.71
00:05:48.600because he he governs and he became the mayor of new york off of feel-goodism for people who are
00:05:58.680ignorant unaccountable and don't want to face reality they want to create some perception they
00:06:06.520want this utopia future that they'll never achieve but like i said their inability to achieve and
00:06:13.000this is what's so important wherever you are oregon georgia arizona maine anywhere and everywhere in
00:06:21.100between when democrats fail it's your fault it's your fault don't you see you didn't give them
00:06:31.240enough money you didn't give them enough power you are the weak link in the chain they say
00:06:37.500they don't ever want to sit there and look at their idiotic ideas and the history of failure
00:06:45.340of those ideas we've got mom donnie saying he's going to open a government funded grocery store0.57
00:06:51.580that's going to cost 30 million dollars and take three years to build does anyone uh hear this i
00:06:59.600mean you you don't know if you should laugh or cry that's crazy but it's all about the idea it's all
00:07:07.460about pushing this forward it's saying see i am soaking the rich and this is the other part of it
00:07:14.020as well the politics of envy are not about math you just had tax day yesterday you just had to
00:07:23.300deal with this many of you i had to write a big check the irs just sucking money out of my bank
00:07:28.720account um the politics of envy are not about math meaning they will do these things and this
00:07:36.000was true of obama's true biden this is the democrats really understanding how they view
00:07:41.640this stuff they would rather try to soak the rich it's very hard to do so which we'll talk about in
00:07:49.560a second but they would rather target the rich and have less revenue over time than promote pro
00:07:57.720growth policies and have more revenue because if that more revenue means people doing well
00:08:04.380continue to do well and even do better that's unacceptable it is about tearing them down
00:08:10.800It is about blaming them. It's the emotional appeal of this to people in New York.
00:08:17.220Otherwise, you'd sit there and say, hey, why is housing so expensive?
00:08:21.840Gee, I don't know. Maybe because of insane regulations the city of New York has.
00:08:27.060Maybe because the unions drive up the costs of all, all construction in ways that are just incomprehensible.
00:08:34.640maybe it's because the tax climate is such that developers are having to make all kinds of
00:08:40.780concessions and deals just to get things done to build more it's a mess and the people telling you
00:08:47.300in this case mom donnie but this is true in la this is true in new york city this is true all
00:08:52.880over the country in any urban center really the people telling you it's because the rich don't
00:08:58.480pay enough they've created the environment that makes it all so expensive the people like mom
00:09:05.040donnie with his silver-tongued nonsense they promise you that they will address these problems
00:09:11.860and hope you don't notice they are the cause of the problem and this is where all this blame
00:09:16.700shifting and understanding the mentality of these people is so powerful and is so important
00:09:21.460because otherwise you would say okay let's get to this pied-à-terre tax for a second here
00:09:27.320But does he think – it's very specifically targeted, he says, at homes over $5 million people don't live in.
00:09:33.940Does he think that there's going to be some downstream effect of this?
00:09:37.240Has he considered that people – first of all, if you buy a very expensive – obviously a very expensive home, if you buy – in New York City, there's $5 million homes everywhere, as you know.
00:09:50.040I mean, that's like in Manhattan, that's a nice two- or three-bedroom apartment.
00:09:54.960Standard, standard three-bedroom apartment of $5 million.
00:09:58.120In Manhattan, that's not a – there are other states where a $5 million home –
00:10:03.800if you're in Nebraska, a $5 million home is going to have like a bowling alley.
00:10:08.620It's going to have a private pond you can water ski on.
00:10:11.560I mean, you're talking about really probably 12,000 to 16,000 square feet, right?
00:10:17.640In New York City, it's a three-bedroom apartment.
00:10:20.040That's how expensive it's gotten there now.
00:10:22.380But he's saying this is going to help people.
00:10:25.520Some of the best residents you can have are people who don't use any of your services at all,
00:10:32.340aren't there that much, and are already paying taxes,
00:10:37.620have already put a lot of money into the economy.
00:10:41.740So this might have the effect of people buying fewer of these $5 million homes.
00:10:47.960This might have the effect of people saying, fine, I'll try to sell it.
00:10:51.980But then also your other buyers recognize that they're going to be targets for this, too.
00:10:57.200And so they start putting their money in other places.
00:10:59.980I got to tell you, a $5 million house down here in South Florida, it's a nice house.
00:11:31.600And you might say, well, why do we care and everything else?
00:11:34.380Well, because the very decision-making of someone like Imamdani is going to make all this stuff worse.
00:11:42.820This is what I think you have to remember. It's it's not that they're offering tradeoffs. It's that they're doing things that exacerbate the thing that they claim they are fixing. Right. It'd be one thing if they said, hey, you know, I'm we're we're going to increase we're going to have way more doctors to increase the supply of doctors in New York City.0.99
00:12:08.400but we're going to have to raise some taxes for that.
00:12:11.040I'm just coming up with something on the fly here.
00:12:13.700You could say, well, look, you're going to have to raise taxes a lot
00:12:16.220and this program, is it even going to...
00:12:17.880But you would at least theoretically have more doctors,
00:12:21.780For Mamdani, capping rent, putting these wealth taxes,
00:12:26.580and that's exactly what this is, putting these things in place,
00:12:29.360will make the affordability crisis worse,
00:12:32.940will make the long-term fiscal projections of New York City worse.
00:12:38.400And this is, again, that key. And he knows it and he doesn't care and he still wants to do it. It is about punishing your perceived class enemies. It is about every person who lives in New York channeling who is frustrated about costs, who is frustrated about their economics situation.
00:12:58.640instead of being angry at the bureaucracy and the high taxes there,
00:13:03.160which is a very reasonable position, thinking, yeah,
00:13:06.740if only Ken Griffin paid more in taxes,
00:13:09.220I could afford to send my kids to that Catholic school
00:13:12.700or that religious school in my neighborhood.
00:13:20.420In fact, he's a job creator who's bought a lot of properties
00:13:23.420and moving a lot of cash around and creating a lot of actual wealth.
00:13:28.640But at the same time, you can see now why it never gets better with these people.
00:13:34.840You can see why after de Blasio to Adams, you know, Adams was we should appreciate him, I guess, more than we did at some level, because while he was incompetent, he wasn't he wasn't nefarious.
00:13:48.960He wasn't intentionally ruining New York City.
00:15:47.820If you learn things that people don't know out there, because we brought in Ryan to be our guy who looks at the data, separates the signal from the noise.
00:15:56.140It's a numbers game is that podcast on the Clay and Buck Network.
00:15:58.760You definitely want to check that out.
00:16:00.420Mr. Gurdusky, always a pleasure to have you on, sir.
00:16:08.420If you would, if you would for me, Ryan, the what happens now as you see it in the California governor's race?
00:16:17.820With the Swalwell. First off, would you agree that the demolition of Swalwell was the fastest, most effective crushing of a political future we've ever seen in the shortest period of time?
00:16:30.140Maybe there's somebody else who comes to mind. Let me know.
00:16:32.300And then what happens now among those Democrat candidates?
00:16:36.100We got these Republicans like Steve Hilton, who we had on because I think a lot of eyes because of the Swalwell, in a sense, has gotten even more attention on the governor's race,
00:16:45.320because that's obviously a big part of why he was on the radar in the first place.
00:17:53.960Republicans, 90 percent know who they're voting for.
00:17:56.760There's only 10 percent left versus about a quarter of Democrats and a quarter of independents.
00:18:01.780For a Republican to kind of milk out whatever juice they can, they really need to slice
00:18:08.400into about a third of the independent vote that's left.
00:18:11.200That's going to be kind of difficult. In the last two governor's races, Republicans got around 40, 41 percent of the vote in California.
00:18:18.580There's maybe eight points left to be generous left for the two leading Republican candidates.
00:18:24.400The rest are going to go to Democrats. If it's divided equally, which probably is not going to happen, then they are making the lock of the Democrat.
00:18:32.040Aside from that, I see probably either a Steyer or, you know, maybe a Bexera coming in second place.
00:18:38.800We'll see, though. So you're pretty. Look, we would love it if our friend Steve Hilton could pull this off.
00:18:45.800But it sounds like it's a really overwhelming favorite that it will be a Democrat, even with it.
00:18:51.560And maybe it makes it easy. Do you buy, by the way, that the Swalwell push out demolition, whatever you want to call it,
00:18:59.940was because at some level he made things such a mess for the Democrats by the numbers?
00:19:04.920or was the timing more coincidental the women just were sick of seeing his face on tv and the
00:19:10.460media realized he's not a protected one anymore i think that no one took him seriously until he
00:19:16.160was leading in all the polls and all the unions are rallying around him and i think a number of
00:19:19.800women were like wow he really can't be governor i think that i don't think that no anyone took
00:19:24.540him as seriously as that he was going to be the next governor until the polls shot up in his favor
00:19:28.980now his name will by like will appear on the ballot they can't take that off so there'll be
00:19:33.380some vote that will go slow well just because his name will be on the in the print um i don't think
00:19:38.860it was like this inside coordinated effect because if that was true they would have done it before
00:19:42.560his name was printed on the ballot to get you know to stop anyone from kind of voting for him
00:19:46.660by accident even so i don't believe it was an inside job i think the women were coming forward
00:19:50.800i know people who have come forward on different occasions for different things and it's less
00:19:55.840politically planned than likely hilton hilton is the most likely to make it to a general election
00:20:00.960The question is, does Bianco maybe get three or four more points in the primary to join him in that general election?
00:20:08.960I really think that that's really the big question and where that number goes.
00:20:12.920So, I mean, it has to really be perfect for the Republicans to lock up the Democrats.
00:20:17.920Now, talk to me about how Trump is doing.
00:20:20.820And obviously that will affect Republicans' fortunes tremendously in the midterms.
00:20:25.980or I would think they would, with this Iran situation continuing to now,
00:20:31.940it's ongoing, we're not blowing up stuff, we say we might blow up more stuff,0.66
00:20:35.840we've got this blockade in place in the strait.
00:20:38.380It does look like Iran is somewhat cornered right now on this.
00:20:42.520I know CNN and others want to tell everybody that Trump is bleeding support
00:20:46.300and it's a disaster and everything else, but is that the case?
00:20:50.880Or if things stay pretty status quo on this and oil prices don't go to 120 dollars a barrel or something, is this not going to matter all that much in the fall?
00:21:06.920I mean, but the good thing for Republicans is, is they've kind of plateaued around in the mid to high 30s.
00:21:13.160Not where you want to be, not for the midterm elections, for sure.
00:21:16.420But we haven't seen another drop like it wasn't like the Bush years where all of a sudden he went to the high 20s.
00:21:21.960They've kind of stayed between the mid and the high 30s.
00:21:24.760A lot of coalition around Trump that's falling apart are people who make less than $50,000 a year, young people and Latinos.
00:21:31.480And there's a lot of crossover among those three groups really have led support.
00:21:35.680The one good thing is, is that among older people, there hasn't been as much bleeding.
00:21:41.400What I think right now Republicans should really be doing is talking about who's getting cash rebates and their taxes because of the new tax law, especially workers who get those tax on tips.
00:21:50.920Very popular, and some people have told me that it's like a life-changing amount of money that they've gotten back.
00:21:55.460So I would be campaigning right now on the economy and talking about the economy.
00:21:58.880The economy really hinges on everything.
00:22:00.960People don't like the foreign policy not because they think that Iran's going to win or not because they're rooting for Iran because they feel like it's a distraction from the economy.
00:22:08.740It really all goes back to how is the economy doing?
00:22:12.840And they look at the jobs, the job numbers not being terrific overall.
00:22:18.940They look at the inflation and they say, where is what you promise?
00:22:21.860It's all really going down to the economy.
00:22:23.880And if you can kind of make this miracle of the economy come back from the first term.
00:22:28.500And now you have an announcement for this audience that I wanted to give you the opportunity to tell everybody about, because it certainly ties into a critical issue of the moment.
00:22:37.560What have you got cooking? What do you got cooking, Ryan?
00:22:40.860So I launched a new pack, a new super pack called Homeland Pack and go to HomelandPack.com.
00:22:45.280And basically what I'm doing now, after decades of Republicans promising strong borders and immigration enforcement, they have broken their promises time and time again.
00:22:54.440And we've seen now with Maria Salazar, the latest bill to bring amnesty to illegal aliens.
00:22:59.620And so this pack was created to one, defend Republicans who are really good on immigration and two, to defeat Republicans in primaries who are really bad.
00:23:06.920There are millions of dollars swirling around from special interest groups, from big corporations to promote amnesty, to promote cheap labor.
00:23:14.780I'm going to do it with, you know, hopefully some big donors will come my way, but also from grassroots donors, the way I did with the 1776 Project PAC, I want to do with Homeland PAC and make sure we defeat these Republicans who are supporting amnesty.
00:23:26.960We can't afford an amnesty, not even Salazar's quote unquote skinny amnesty.
00:23:30.960It will all come down to citizenship on a massive level, and we will be in a situation like we are in California.
00:23:36.480We can't afford any more amnesty. So Homeland PAC dot com will go out.
00:23:40.900It's specifically only about immigration, defending Republicans who are good in immigration and beating them who are bad in immigration.
00:23:47.900Speaking about immigration, and you mentioned Tom Steyer before, who I like to tell everybody, Tom Steyer is an inspiration because it's a reminder to all Americans that you, too, can become a billionaire,
00:24:00.760even if you have no wisdom, no personality, and no redeeming quality in your politics whatsoever.
00:27:23.160Is it something, has it become clear to enough voters in Virginia, you think, that Spanberger ran as like, hey, I'm just like a mom and a moderate?
00:27:33.740And then as soon as she was in power, it was like, I am a Marxist lunatic.
00:27:37.220Who wants to take your guns and raise your taxes?
00:27:39.340Well, the interesting thing is Spanberger is losing support from both low income voters and high income voters.
00:27:45.960And we're seeing with the referendum on redistricting a 41 point flip away from Spanberger from she won independence by 17 points.
00:27:54.600Right now, the referendum is losing independence by 24 points, a tremendous 41 point shift among that group in just six months.
00:28:03.320I think I think her presidential ambitions are really coming to a close very, very quickly in this administration.
00:28:09.340Ryan Gerdusky, everybody. It's A Numbers Game is the podcast. And what's the pack again, Ryan?
00:28:17.380All right. Thanks so much. Not long ago, I took time to visit with one of our newest sponsors, SuperShore.
00:28:22.840And wow, was I impressed. SuperShore makes sense of all the insurance policies that business owners must maintain to be compliant and operate their business.
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00:28:40.020And when questions come up, it's so hard to get the clarity you need.
00:32:10.240Anyway, there's also a Kevin Kiley, who's a California independent, but caucuses with Republicans.
00:32:17.140He voted for Democrats. Let's talk about this issue for a second, and then we can talk about more of keeping order on our side on the immigration issue
00:32:28.160and not letting this stuff slip away and not letting betrayals happen
00:32:56.240as in it does not last forever and yet temporary protected status haitians have been here in this
00:33:05.620country since you want to guess say it out loud if you want january 2010 january 350 000 people
00:33:19.040350,000 Haitians have had their had their temporary protected status extended over 16 years.
00:33:29.640I think we're going to have to change this.
00:33:33.160We can't call it TPS or temporary protected status because it is clearly not being treated as temporary.
00:33:41.680DHS announced a termination of this for August 3rd of 2025, but a court stayed that term.
00:33:47.960so the courts won't let us end it obviously some activist judge the democrats and even some
00:33:54.940republicans want to extend it why this is not supposed to be a backdoor immigration policy
00:34:03.100but that's exactly what it has been treated as as in we call it temporary but then they stay forever
00:34:09.900same kind of game they play with asylum oh they're just applying for asylum if they don't get it
00:34:16.360they'll leave they know that's not true when they don't get asylum they just disappear into the
00:34:21.060american interior they don't send they don't show up at their hearings it is a backdoor illegal way
00:34:28.260to get permanent status in america people say oh it's legal when they apply for asylum not when
00:34:33.020they don't show up for hearings which a huge percentage of them don't but how can we have a
00:34:38.520country when so much when half of the voters roughly maybe it's less than half call it 45
00:34:45.340But certainly one of the two major political parties and a slew of NGOs, including taxpayer-enabled, if not funded NGOs, a slew of left-wing activist groups.
00:35:01.780And they all want, and of course the judges, a lot of left-wing judges, they want to make it impossible to enforce immigration law.
00:35:10.780You can go back to Plato's The Republic on this.
00:35:13.880is a law that is not enforced really a law does at what point does it cease to be a law
00:35:19.520i think we've seen this now tested many times over on on immigration and the uh the this
00:35:26.940extension of temporary protected status no the the american people were very nice
00:35:32.820very nice to allow 350 000 haitians to stay here for 16 years
00:35:39.380haiti has been an independent country i believe it's the second oldest democracy in the western
00:35:45.880hemisphere haiti has been an independent country for a long time and they got to fix their own
00:35:53.460problems so the extension of this clearly these some of these republicans i would think must have
00:36:00.100some haitian diaspora community or tps diaspora community in their district and so this is pure
00:36:06.400politics for them i would guess that's certainly the case for some of the uh like the new york
00:36:10.720representative that i mentioned but uh now this brings me to something else we we've had on the
00:36:15.640show and i'm i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one but we have had on the show
00:36:21.000and and enjoyed talking to him uh former senator now dhs secretary mark wayne mullen
00:36:27.180uh who has seemed like a good guy i do not agree with some of his uh commentary about
00:37:03.060because she just does whatever. She was trying1.00
00:37:04.960to do whatever Trump told her to do, which is fine, did not have competency and, of course,
00:37:09.720had a lot of vulnerabilities, shall we say, politically and otherwise, that came to the
00:37:17.240forefront. So I'm just going to say that DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen went on Fox News
00:37:22.700and he said this, and I want to push a little bit on this. Play 11.
00:37:28.220They take advantage of the United States' generosity, but the problem is that we want
00:37:33.200immigration we want legal immigration people that want to make the country stronger we're a nation
00:37:37.220of immigrants we understand the right kind of immigrants the right kind i don't like that we're
00:37:42.900a nation of immigrants thing it's really not true we're a nation of americans actually i mean there
00:37:48.180are immigrants here who have joined the american family over time but this idea that because here's
00:37:53.940what this if we're a nation of immigrants do we become something else if we don't keep bringing
00:37:58.380in immigrants i think we've had too much immigration in recent decades i think the
00:38:03.740numbers bear that out quite clearly and i think that it puts major strain on the forces the1.00
00:38:09.780societal uh political economic and historic forces that tie us together in what the ancient greeks
00:38:18.340would have called the polity right a political and ideological union some sense of a cohesive
00:38:24.500thing that is america and that binds together the american people and we know that we've been
00:38:31.740in europe they've been forced to really think about this if you have some uh country like
00:38:36.620sweden with 10 million 10 million swedes well if you put 5 million iraqis which they didn't have
00:38:42.220that many but if you put 5 million iraqis in a country with 10 million swedes it's a different
00:38:46.040country the place changes right so that that people have had to see play out in real time0.55
00:38:51.780they can understand that we've had far too much illegal immigration we've probably had far too
00:38:56.280much legal immigration oh no i believe we have people can disagree on that but on the illegal
00:39:01.680side and i think they'd be wrong for disagreeing but that's okay on the illegal side there's no
00:39:06.320question that we have been inundated we have been swamped with illegal crossings uh and and
00:39:12.780overstays and other evasions of our immigration laws in this country so we want legal immigration
00:39:19.880Yes, as a general matter, we want legal immigration. The secretary of DHS is correct in that.
00:39:26.240Should we have a conversation about having less legal immigration at this point in America?0.96
00:39:31.400Yes, we really should get to a this is just people who are contributing and making America better, more prosperous, safer, smarter, all of those things.
00:39:43.640And we better be really sure that that's what we're getting.
00:39:46.540and that means a slower and more vetted process it means a lot less chain migration i was just
00:39:55.120hearing from somebody the other day oh you know my in my country we uh we my my parents or one of
00:40:01.980my parents won a like a green card lottery thing and now the whole family of like eight people is
00:40:06.960being sponsored to come here so just understand when they say oh there's a green card lottery
00:40:12.340with, I don't know what the number is, you know,
00:40:16.740But there's this whole effort then to bring the whole family, too.
00:40:20.800And that's often the case with people, whether it's they're here for a whole
00:40:25.940range of different temporary lawful reasons.
00:40:30.580H-1B visas is another example of this.
00:40:33.600Why will H-1B visa holders take less pay than people doing the same work?0.99
00:40:41.360because they will and we know that why are they more malleable to the wishes of management hence0.92
00:40:49.860why they are preferable for some unscrupulous american businesses in hiring well it is because
00:40:56.920their status is tied to that visa which means it's harder for them to move around people say
00:41:03.220oh no they can't no it is harder but also they can get to the front of the green card line
00:41:08.940and then if they get that then they can start to try to sponsor more of their family to come in
00:41:14.260which is a huge benefit so yeah getting paid 15 or 20 percent under market to do clerical work for
00:41:20.920a few years that feels a whole lot more attractive to somebody from a third world country
00:41:26.680if they think they can stay forever and then bring their whole family in here this is why
00:41:31.540the immigration issue is i think the most important issue in the country right now
00:41:36.660It should be the most important issue to voters. And the Trump administration has done some very good things on this. But the job is unfinished, to be sure, not even close to finished.
00:41:49.480So the DHS secretary were a nation of immigrants. That is a that is really a non-truth. It's not untrue, but as a non-truth or is an incomplete truth to say about this country.0.97
00:42:03.680And and it plays right into the rhetoric of Democrats. They're the ones that have been saying this for so long. We're a nation of immigrants. No, really, we're a nation of founders, of pioneers, of builders, of people who came here without the promise of endless welfare benefits, without a DEI infrastructure ready to claim victimhood for them at the hands of America.
00:42:28.160even though they came to America because they have a skin color that falls into the protected classes of DEI here.
00:42:37.680It's a very different thing to show up in America today than it was to show up in 1920 or 1820 or 1720, for that matter.
00:42:46.340It's a very different thing that people face.
00:42:49.520And treating it as similar, treating a voyage on a wooden ship that ends up with people landing at Plymouth Rock,
00:42:58.160where they face death the entire voyage from disease, from shipwreck, from any number of things,
00:43:04.080as similar to I scraped together 200 bucks to get on a cheap international flight and now I'm in America.
00:43:10.720There's an insult to our intelligence that occurs with that.
00:43:15.440So we should not be going around saying we're a nation of immigrants.
00:43:20.040We're a nation that allows some immigrants and has had waves of immigration,
00:43:23.880but historically has also had stops in the immigration waves
00:43:30.040to allow Americans to be America, or rather, America to be of Americans.
00:43:36.860That is a thing that happens in our history as well.
00:44:20.480And when you've had the experience that I've had of going into a pre-born clinic and talking to some of the moms who have been helped by pre-born and then meet the little baby, in this case now a little girl, running around the office, happy, laughing, smiling, without pre-born, she probably wouldn't be here today.
00:44:36.260And her mom would be living with regret and the pain of having made the wrong decision.
00:44:41.420Pre-born helps women, provides them with compassion and real support when they go in, when they're pregnant and they're in a crisis pregnancy.
00:46:36.840And we have a bunch of you sending in all kinds of talkbacks and thoughts.
00:46:43.120And we'll take some of your calls, too, on where this is all going.
00:46:46.180But look, you know that I'm I come from a background of somebody who saw things not going well, put it mildly, up close and personal in both Iraq and Afghanistan, Democrat and Republican administrations, I might add.
00:47:00.920So anytime we're talking about war, I just approach it with a I don't approach it with a pessimistic view.0.61
00:47:10.200I just it's very much a trust but verify situation for me, because if we're going to put our people in harm's way, if we're going to be using the military to take life, thousands of lives abroad, we should be asking questions and be darn short the right way.
00:47:26.600I have had my moments of questioning and even some skepticism of some of what's gone on with Trump and Iran.0.54
00:47:37.060But if this embargo, I'm sorry, blockade, if this blockade holds of just Iran in the strait, and so Iran is no longer using that as leverage, it becomes our greatest point of leverage against Iran.
00:47:52.300if that holds and their economy i would assume is going to start to spiral
00:47:59.040and then you add to that perhaps additional airstrikes not clear on what they would be
00:48:05.220i wonder how long the iranians can hold on with that i think that they had assumed that there may
00:48:11.960be and again when i say the iranians it was it is true what that caller said before we're talking
00:48:17.920about the iranian government our our beef the world's beef but america specifically our beef
00:48:25.120with the and israel uh the iranians is with the security services the government the military
00:48:31.420it's not with someone who lives in a yeah uh modest house in uh isfahan or something and
00:48:40.120it's just trying to go teach sunday and not well not sunday school but teach well maybe but uh but
00:48:45.580go to you know teach grammar school is what i meant to say that that's not our problem that's
00:48:49.060not our beef we're not trying to hurt people who have had no effect on iranian policy and and in
00:48:55.040many cases want the regime gone of course as we know we saw that with those protests that were out
00:48:59.320in the streets um but this is let's go to cut 26 here for a second trump is sounding very
00:49:07.080positive here on this deal and the prospect for a deal play 26
00:49:14.180We're doing very well, I can tell you. Maybe it'll happen before that. I'm not sure it needs to be extended. Iran wants to make a deal and we're dealing very nicely with them. We've got to have no nuclear weapons. If we do, that's a big factor. And they're willing to do things today that they weren't willing to do two months ago.
00:49:41.220So he is straight up telling us that there is progress in the negotiations in terms of concessions the Iranians are willing to make.0.78
00:49:50.880Now, this could all be part of the Iranian positioning, the Iranian play for time strategy.0.51
00:49:57.680But I think that the reason Trump is out there saying this right now is because he knows, and this is what I'm seeing too,
00:50:06.220if this situation with the Strait holds,
00:50:09.400the pressure valve is now really one way.
00:50:14.240The issues of the Strait of Hormuz have become far more powerful
00:50:19.500for the Iranian regime than they are for us
00:50:22.780in terms of the way to either sit this out or turn up the heat,
00:50:28.900whatever it may be, or wait this out, I mean.
00:50:31.700So that's where we are with the Iran deal.
00:50:34.240We'll see if it actually ends up happening.
00:50:36.220and trump also has said that he would go to pakistan this was some news that was just
00:50:40.920broken a few minutes ago this is 27 he says he would go to pakistan to complete a deal if one is
00:50:46.080ready to be done would you ever go to pakistan to deal the deal yourself i would i would go to
00:50:52.220pakistan has been great they've been so good islamabad i'll be i might go yeah if the deal
00:51:00.040is signed in islamabad i might go the field marshal has been great the prime minister has
00:51:05.500been really great in pakistan so i bet and if he gets a deal maybe trump tower islamabad but you'd
00:51:12.900know that better than anybody it's a beautiful tower he'd build the most beautiful uh i've never
00:51:18.660been to islamabad i hear it's not great but uh yeah trump is saying that he would go himself
00:51:25.220because he would recognize we would all recognize the historic nature of that kind of an agreement
00:51:31.940And he certainly wants to be there. He understands he understands all the implications of getting this to that point.
00:51:39.180But I am I am more optimistic now than I still think there's going to be an extension of the ceasefire, to be clear.
00:51:45.260But I'm more optimistic that at the end of this, Trump is going to get something closer to what he wants than I was before because of the of the change, the change about that we've been discussing today.
00:51:56.340Now, the Artemis crew, the Artemis 2 crew, is talking about their moon mission.
00:52:04.360I'm not a big, like, producer Greg, I think Clay also, Clay has more of the,
00:52:12.600and I mean this in a good way, the childlike wonder when it comes to space exploration and astronauts.
00:52:48.940producer greg do you want to come on and tell tell me tell me why the artemis 2 is is he in
00:52:54.400studio right now or am i catching him i'm here i'm here he's not grabbing shake shack all right
00:52:58.840producer greg producer greg artemis 2 they're talking about this why should a salty old dog
00:53:05.960like me care that much about this mission sell me on this thing it's about the human exploration
00:53:14.360and what we can achieve, the technology and the whole thing coming together,
00:53:21.920what it takes to produce something like this.
00:53:25.140I mean, a rocket like that going to the moon is probably the most sophisticated piece of machinery
00:53:32.620with so many different working parts at every one time, with so many points of failure that could happen.
00:53:38.540And the fact that they're able to get it to go together and to go to the moon
00:53:44.220in this case, around the moon, and then hopefully in a few more years actually land on the moon again,
00:53:49.960just stretches us as people, as human, as Americans,
00:53:58.040and to show that we can do it, regain some of the prize that we lost.
00:54:03.320So here's, okay, Producer Greg, I mean, I'm hoping NASA doesn't snatch you up to do comms for them
00:54:08.400because you're doing an excellent job explaining, as I said, the childlike wonder that so many have about that.
00:54:13.500but here's my thing we've already been to the moon we we did this so isn't this a little bit
00:54:20.240like the second person to uh to summit mount everest like the first person it's oh my gosh
00:54:25.160the second person it's okay that was hard but didn't we already get there like well help me
00:54:30.180with that okay real quick who was the first person to walk on the moon neil armstrong who was the
00:54:35.780second i don't know buzz aldrin you don't there we go you've heard his name though right yeah yeah
00:54:42.380Of course. So I'm not like an astronaut hater. I'm just not as I don't get as fired up about this.
00:54:47.180Here's my here's my point that that just because this is the second time we're going, doesn't just because Buzz Aldrin is the second person to step foot on the moon, doesn't make the accomplishment any less important or less significant.
00:54:58.520and two two more things this is a first step to get back to to get to mars in order to to do this
00:55:06.800to to get to mars what elon wants to do what trump wants to do what we need to be doing as a human
00:55:14.200species to expand ourselves beyond earth to stretch our knowledge and our boundaries um getting to the
00:55:20.620moon is the first step because the gravity is lighter the opportunities for uh mining some of
00:55:25.600materials we need water and other things it's a better place to launch from than earth so that's
00:55:31.720that's the next thing so this is all a stepping stone to get on to mars and beyond to expand
00:55:37.780ourselves into the 22nd century and beyond that was really good producer greg thank you i'm i'm
00:55:45.200quite quite sold on the prospect of this being uh very exciting to people thank you so much for
00:55:50.460that so there you go see when you have it's a little like a scully and molder situation you
00:55:55.480know if you got a little bit of a skeptic about that you got to bring in the believer and greg
00:55:58.660is a greg is a believer and in this one i was really just being honest with him i wasn't i
00:56:03.080wasn't pretending like when i pretend to hate hockey just to get him and producer mark all
00:56:07.600fired up at me because then they want to throw me into the boards and pull my jersey over my head
00:56:11.660um but yes this this was uh this is a big a big step for for mankind i suppose even though we've
00:56:17.960taken the similar step before so that's interesting to me i still think thank you greg that that was
00:56:22.400great uh i still think that um it would be really interesting for clay and i to get down
00:56:27.660to spacex and i'd like to find a way to work that out we got to reach out to elon's team and
00:56:33.020and see because i have heard from people who have been down there you know i saw uh i i i went and
00:56:40.100actually met with the uh secretary of war and and saw some of his team as you guys know at cape
00:56:47.280canaveral and and saw the nasa facility there and the the rocket and oh this i actually saw this
00:56:52.220rocket i actually went and saw the rocket uh that's right all right i'm pretty sure that was
00:56:57.480the one that i saw was about to be the one that they used i have a photo of me standing in front
00:57:01.220of the artemis 2 uh i should have put that together before this so yes um i've been there
00:57:06.640the blue origin facility was was pretty cool but you know i want to see the spacex facility
00:57:13.500SpaceX, they're like the bad boys of space exploration.