Verdict with Ted Cruz - BONUS： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 12 2025

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00:00:04.720 Welcome in Tuesday edition.

00:00:06.720 Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.

00:00:08.840 Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

00:00:11.400 Trump has broken left wing minds by telling them,

00:00:15.580 hey, I'm going to keep you from getting killed.

00:00:18.560 This is I knew it was going to be crazy, the reactions.

00:00:23.240 But even for left wing meltdowns, the reaction from,

00:00:27.880 hey, my goal is to make sure that less people are victims of violent crime

00:00:31.860 and less murders are taking place in Washington, D.C.,

00:00:35.040 has really, even for left wing insanity, gone to a different level.

00:00:41.440 We're going to break that down for you here momentarily.

00:00:43.580 Give you a little bit of a heads up.

00:00:45.720 We're going to continue to follow the Texas redistricting battle.

00:00:49.380 And we're going to be joined by Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton,

00:00:53.440 at the bottom of this hour to give us the absolute latest

00:00:57.260 on what the pursuit of Democrats who have led the state is actually going to entail.

00:01:04.640 And so we will follow that story with you, along with many others.

00:01:09.220 The New York City mayor's race is heating up.

00:01:12.340 Buck, I saw George Will on Bill Maher over the weekend,

00:01:16.780 making the Clay Travis argument of, hey, maybe we just have to let New York City stew

00:01:22.420 in its own ineptitude in order to and rather than try to completely save them

00:01:29.800 from their derangement.

00:01:31.720 We'll talk about that, maybe break down that that universe.

00:01:34.440 But I want to just start and have some fun here.

00:01:36.780 We told you this was coming.

00:01:38.680 We said Trump is trying to save the lives of tons of Democrat voters

00:01:44.500 in Washington, D.C., and they are not going to be able to handle it.

00:01:50.000 By the way, we should also mention consumer prices, inflation low yet again,

00:01:55.460 2.7% below expectations, making finally some of those rate cuts

00:02:01.000 start to appear more likely maybe as soon as next month.

00:02:04.020 We'll probably talk about that as well.

00:02:05.540 But let's have some fun here, Buck.

00:02:07.640 Here is a great montage from our producer, Greg, of left-wingers complaining

00:02:15.000 about the overreach of Donald Trump keeping them from getting killed in Washington, D.C.

00:02:20.640 This is Scott 3.

00:02:21.640 Is it government overreach or something that our big cities desperately need?

00:02:26.160 The call to take over the Capitol drawing backlash.

00:02:28.760 Critics accusing the president of overreaching.

00:02:31.620 Authoritarian overreach.

00:02:33.200 They feel like this is federal overreach.

00:02:35.400 This is overreach.

00:02:36.780 This is authoritarianism.

00:02:38.260 This is an overreach.

00:02:39.500 This is unnecessary.

00:02:40.760 It's about federal overreach.

00:02:42.260 It's political overreach.

00:02:43.580 This seems like a bit of an overreach.

00:02:46.920 It is amazing how well they deliver the exact same talking points.

00:02:51.700 Let me play a couple, to be fair, here for you, Buck, of left-wing journalists

00:02:56.480 actually saying, you know what, it isn't safe in D.C.

00:02:59.660 Here was, to be fair, Kyra Phillips at ABC News saying, hey, D.C. is actually very dangerous.

00:03:06.840 Cut six.

00:03:08.220 Usually that's how you play devil's advocate is you talk about, oh, well, stats say crime

00:03:12.200 is down.

00:03:13.160 However, I can tell you firsthand here in downtown D.C. where we work, right here around our bureau,

00:03:18.820 just in the past six months, there were two people shot.

00:03:22.640 One person died literally two blocks down here from the bureau.

00:03:25.620 It was within the last two years that I actually was jumped, walking just two blocks down from here.

00:03:32.160 And then just this morning, one of my coworkers said her car was stolen a block away from the bureau.

00:03:38.920 So we can talk about the numbers going down, but crime is happening every single day

00:03:44.980 because we're all experiencing it firsthand while working and living down here.

00:03:49.720 One more, Buck, your buddy Joe Scarborough, who suddenly has taken truth serum and occasionally

00:03:55.980 now says things that are objectively true, said, hey, privately, everybody's talking about

00:04:02.300 how D.C. is unsafe and then publicly they're complaining because Trump's trying to make it

00:04:06.760 safer.

00:04:07.220 Cut seven.

00:04:08.000 People have been calling me over the past couple of days going, you know, like Washington should

00:04:13.540 have gotten involved years ago.

00:04:15.140 This place is dangerous.

00:04:16.640 It's a mess.

00:04:17.220 It's a wreck and whatever.

00:04:18.160 And then they'll go on Twitter, go, this is the worst outrage of all time.

00:04:23.400 These hocking, which I understand it's a people need to express their concerns about Donald Trump

00:04:30.660 going too far.

00:04:31.520 We saw what happened back in 2020 with the National Guard.

00:04:34.620 Certainly can't have any repeat of that.

00:04:36.860 Don't want the federalization of the entire city.

00:04:40.100 But man, I don't care what the crime statistics say.

00:04:43.080 Crime has been a problem in this city for the 32 years I've been living inside and outside

00:04:49.840 of the city.

00:04:51.320 It's just, you know, even now we, Nick and I, we're talking to somebody who lives in the

00:04:57.320 city.

00:04:58.020 These are all Democrats who said, you know, our friends won't walk more than three blocks

00:05:02.880 in D.C. at night.

00:05:04.600 I mean, it's like he was listening to the Clay and Buck show yesterday and is now just reiterating

00:05:12.140 everything that we told you because we tell you the truth.

00:05:15.720 We tell you what's really going on, which is why you grace us with your time and why this

00:05:20.900 project of getting to hang out with you all works as well as it does because we're all

00:05:25.920 a team in the truth.

00:05:27.200 And it is so obvious to anyone who is this is the thing, too.

00:05:31.200 You have two guys here who have both lived in D.C.

00:05:33.480 So we we know, right?

00:05:35.120 This isn't some city.

00:05:36.120 I can quote statistics in St.

00:05:39.100 Louis to tell you that it's dangerous.

00:05:40.660 I can tell you stories, personal stories about I remember I was woken up in the middle of the

00:05:46.540 night living in D.C.

00:05:47.480 Clay and what was considered a kind of a nice neighborhood.

00:05:51.200 It wasn't Georgetown nice, but it was a nice enough neighborhood is Logan Circle area.

00:05:54.680 For those, you know, D.C. and there was not a shooting, a shoot out on my corner.

00:06:00.220 Two guys who were at one of the, you know, big hotel chains.

00:06:03.500 I forget which one pulled guns on each other and shot it out.

00:06:07.640 Neither of them hit anyone.

00:06:08.620 But I remember being woken up in the middle of the night by this.

00:06:10.960 You could say, oh, Buck, but that's anecdotal.

00:06:12.940 Everybody who lives in D.C. has these anecdotal stories, no matter where you live in D.C.

00:06:17.500 And that is a different thing.

00:06:19.200 It is a different thing.

00:06:20.220 And they talked about I did watch the morning Joe this morning.

00:06:22.700 You know, sorry, guys.

00:06:23.500 That is a different thing they talked about on morning Joe.

00:06:26.080 How if you live in Manhattan, you might have a story about someone being crazy on this.

00:06:32.040 In fact, if you take the subway, you definitely have stories of something crazy on the subway.

00:06:35.900 And you might have some stories about about vagrants and about some unsettling things.

00:06:40.480 You don't have a story about the summer intern who just got stabbed to death last week.

00:06:44.900 Everybody who lives in D.C. knows this.

00:06:47.300 And one of the brilliant things from that, that's the reality there.

00:06:51.060 One of the brilliant things here, once again, from Trump and Clay, you were hitting it hard yesterday.

00:06:55.140 It's so important for everyone to know this.

00:06:58.680 Trump is forcing them to defend the indefensible.

00:07:01.060 Once again, once again, D.C. is not a safe city. 0.98

00:07:06.480 Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying or just is ignorant. 0.93

00:07:11.540 And it should be a lot better. 0.97

00:07:13.900 The city council in D.C. is so insane that the Democrats had to go along in Congress and override legislation that they were trying to pass.

00:07:23.260 The D.C. city council tried to make carjacking a less serious statute. 0.99

00:07:29.340 And the United States Congress was like, you guys are nuts.

00:07:32.140 You can't do that in our nation's capital because we have to drive in to go to our jobs and we don't want to be carjacked.

00:07:37.880 Democrats, Clay, once again, caught completely flat footed on this. 0.99

00:07:42.100 They look like buffoons. 0.98

00:07:43.720 What Trump's doing makes perfect sense. 0.98

00:07:46.000 And if he shows results, which, by the way, I think he will, I think there will be results from this, it'll just be another W where Democrats look like they're the pro-crime party and the emotionally erratic liar party.

00:08:00.040 I also think this could be a pilot program.

00:08:03.000 If Trump surges National Guardsmen and additional resources in Washington, D.C., and we see a marked decline in violent crime, why would that not be possible with state National Guard troops?

00:08:22.160 You mentioned St. Louis.

00:08:23.440 I was looking.

00:08:24.140 I think I let me see if I looked and flagged it.

00:08:26.800 But the cities that actually have the largest awful crime rates, I was very kind of interested in that.

00:08:35.500 And some of them you would not be surprised by.

00:08:37.800 Memphis is awful.

00:08:40.020 And Kansas City, I was surprised by, is incredibly awful when it comes to violent crime.

00:08:47.080 Why couldn't we apply some of the same lessons that might be learned in Washington, D.C. to those cities and drive down violent crime everywhere?

00:08:55.340 Well, you absolutely could.

00:08:58.020 And this is the critical point.

00:08:59.520 This is a choice.

00:09:00.740 The same way, and this is really important, the same way that we saw that Biden's open border was a choice.

00:09:09.300 Trump has proven that.

00:09:11.240 Letting 10 million people flood into the country under false asylum claims, entering illegally, and then gaming our system and taking advantage of the American people. 0.88

00:09:21.080 That did not have to happen.

00:09:23.500 Democrats chose to make that happen.

00:09:26.700 They're also choosing for crime to continue in all these cities at the level that it is.

00:09:30.480 I mean, you can go down the list, Clay.

00:09:32.160 New Orleans, a beautiful city that I love.

00:09:34.140 Way too much crime.

00:09:35.160 St. Louis, so much crime that when I visited our affiliate there a few years ago and I asked my Uber driver, I was like, hey, downtown looks kind of nice.

00:09:42.080 He's like, don't walk alone at night here.

00:09:43.780 I remember.

00:09:45.060 I'm like, in the main downtown near the sports stadium?

00:09:47.900 He goes, oh, no, don't walk alone at night.

00:09:50.280 I said, okay, that's not a big.

00:09:52.380 And everyone that I saw who lived in the suburbs there said the same thing.

00:09:54.760 It's too dangerous at night.

00:09:56.600 You know, cities like Baltimore.

00:09:58.120 I haven't been to Detroit.

00:09:59.300 I have spent a lot of time in Baltimore.

00:10:01.040 Baltimore's far too dangerous, far too much crime.

00:10:03.640 The things that they keep saying they want to do, oh, we need more like, you know, social workers or we need more welfare programs or whatever.

00:10:12.780 That doesn't do anything.

00:10:14.480 Fighting crime involves enforcing the law and locking up criminals.

00:10:18.180 D.C. had 3,000, give or take, has about 3,000 felony arrests a year.

00:10:23.780 Now, there's only 365 days in a year, but 3,000 felony arrests in a year, Clay.

00:10:28.320 Probably 1,500 to 2,000 people in D.C. are really doing the bad stuff.

00:10:34.020 Yep.

00:10:34.280 Really doing the bad stuff.

00:10:35.920 Out of a city of 600,000.

00:10:37.620 If you're willing to lock up even 500 to 1,000 more of these serious felons, you know what happens?

00:10:43.320 Everybody's safer.

00:10:44.980 100%.

00:10:45.500 And we're speaking as grown men who I think in general are less concerned with crime.

00:10:52.820 I don't know about you.

00:10:53.960 I really don't think about being a victim of crime that often.

00:10:57.600 But I was having this conversation with my wife the other day.

00:11:00.540 I mean, in Franklin, you might have like a rogue squirrel run across your roof.

00:11:04.400 Not where I live.

00:11:06.180 I mean, anywhere.

00:11:07.320 But I was having this conversation with my wife.

00:11:10.420 And she said, you know, you and Buck have been talking about crime.

00:11:14.900 Every woman, when she walks into a parking garage, her head is on a swivel. 1.00

00:11:24.880 She's holding her keys to be used as a weapon. 1.00

00:11:28.280 You know, the most dangerous places, the most dangerous places, especially for women, parking 1.00

00:11:33.440 garages, gas station, parking garages, gas station.

00:11:36.620 That's the worst place for women to be specifically. 1.00

00:11:39.340 I told my wife recently, I think I said it on the show.

00:11:42.340 Hey, Nashville, where I live, certain neighborhoods feel unsafe.

00:11:46.620 I said, you're not getting gas anymore in Nashville.

00:11:50.060 Like, come out to Franklin where we are after dark and you can fill up the car, plan it that

00:11:55.860 way, but I think that every man thinks about this in the context of wife, daughter, mom.

00:12:03.740 Every woman thinks about it all the time, right? 0.53

00:12:07.980 When crime is at a high level, women are thinking about this all the time. 1.00

00:12:12.840 And I guarantee you, especially all the women that are in the media and are conscious of the 0.99

00:12:21.340 high rates of violent crime that are going on, they actually agree.

00:12:25.600 And I think what one of the things that this illuminates is Trump says what lots of people

00:12:30.880 think.

00:12:32.100 And the difference between authentic politicians and inauthentic politicians is what I give

00:12:38.540 them credit here.

00:12:39.200 Joe Scarborough just pointed to, which is most people agree with what Trump's doing privately,

00:12:45.340 but publicly because it's Trump, they're claiming they don't.

00:12:48.780 And I think increasingly more and more of the American public is seeing through the BS

00:12:53.740 and saying, wait a minute, you said yesterday, I think it's a good point.

00:12:57.280 You could disagree on tax rates or tariff rates.

00:12:59.760 I mean, I just said this on Fox news, but as part of disagreeing on keeping people from

00:13:03.620 getting murdered is a really tough argument to make, right?

00:13:07.280 Hey, I want less people to die violently is something that everybody in America should

00:13:12.100 say, Hey, I'll sign on to that.

00:13:13.420 But like I said, this is one of Clay Clay's brave stands on the show.

00:13:18.440 Solidly anti-murder.

00:13:19.880 Did you see Fox news?

00:13:21.220 Fox news actually shared from their 28 million Twitter account or whatever.

00:13:25.500 Clay Travis says he hates murder.

00:13:27.140 And I was like, finally, I'm getting some credit here for hating murder more than anybody

00:13:30.960 else.

00:13:31.320 That was actually their headline.

00:13:32.600 And so I appreciate the praise there.

00:13:35.680 Something else I want to point out, because we were discussing the numbers, we should get

00:13:39.600 into some of the numbers some more on this.

00:13:41.600 And remember, if you're like, well, it's our nation's capital.

00:13:44.360 Clay, we don't want to just take blue cities and let them rot, sir, whether it is New York

00:13:49.140 or D.C.

00:13:49.840 We will return to that conversation.

00:13:51.600 We want them to be the best they can be.

00:13:53.140 And people were saying, oh, well, look at the numbers, look at the crime that's it's

00:13:59.460 going down.

00:14:00.800 There's already an indicator, a pretty strong one that they're cooking the books, which

00:14:06.580 I also tell you, even without this story, I knew this was going on because anyone who

00:14:10.800 lives in D.C. will tell you not safe.

00:14:12.460 Bad things are happening, not safe.

00:14:14.440 And the atmosphere there.

00:14:16.560 And this is why Joe Scarborough, Joe Scarborough's golf playing friends from the Chevy Chase

00:14:21.640 Country Club, for those who know the D.C.

00:14:23.580 area.

00:14:24.060 I'm sure he has a lot of them.

00:14:25.520 A lot of Scarborough watchers live in Chevy Chase.

00:14:28.700 They would be very miffed.

00:14:31.800 You know, Muffy and Buffy would be very upset if Joe was saying that it was safe in downtown

00:14:36.340 D.C. because they don't feel safe when they go to Pilates class in downtown.

00:14:40.540 They know that bad things happen there.

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00:16:50.400 Welcome back in.

00:16:51.720 Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.

00:16:53.760 Appreciate everybody hanging out with us.

00:16:55.660 He is the Attorney General of Texas.

00:16:57.720 He is also running for the Republican nomination in the Senate.

00:17:01.700 He is Ken Paxton with us on now.

00:17:04.960 Okay, so let's dive into the absolute latest here.

00:17:09.320 The Democrats, to my knowledge, remain outside of state borders.

00:17:13.820 What should we expect to happen going forward now, Mr. Attorney General?

00:17:19.980 Well, I don't know.

00:17:21.500 This is uncharted territory for all of us.

00:17:24.100 I don't know exactly what to expect.

00:17:26.100 But we filed actions in both Illinois and California.

00:17:30.460 Obviously, they can move around.

00:17:32.140 But my understanding is many of them are in Illinois.

00:17:34.860 We filed actions in that state asking the court there under the full faith and credit provision of the U.S. Constitution to honor our quorum warrants that were issued by the Speaker of the House in Texas.

00:17:48.100 So we'll see how that goes.

00:17:50.080 We're waiting on action there.

00:17:52.380 We also have our filings with the Texas Supreme Court to try to remove 13 different legislators for being openly defiant of showing up for a session to deal with a lot of issues, not just redistricting.

00:18:09.220 And that is on a sort of a two-week time frame with briefs due by the other side, then a reply brief, and then their reply brief.

00:18:18.920 So that's going to be going over the next couple of weeks.

00:18:22.360 And then, of course, we have our actions that relate to Beto O'Rourke and his PAC and trying to hold him in contempt for violating a temporary restraining order that was issued by a court in Tarrant County recently.

00:18:38.380 So, Mr. Attorney General, if I could ask, could you just reverse a little?

00:18:42.780 Because for some of our listeners, what is different about this time?

00:18:47.540 This has happened before, and there are people saying, oh, this is a game that has been played in the past.

00:18:53.560 What does the law say about, like, where are Democrats who have fled the state in violation of law?

00:18:59.960 And how is this time, if this time is different from the past, how is it different from when they've tried this before?

00:19:06.460 So, you know, they tried it in 2003.

00:19:08.460 I was in the Texas House.

00:19:10.660 Obviously, I was not in the Attorney General's office.

00:19:13.280 In 2021, it didn't last very long.

00:19:16.560 This one, we have no idea how long it's going to last.

00:19:19.780 So, you know, they're all a little different.

00:19:21.940 I think as we've had more experience, you know, my office has gotten more and more creative trying to deal with these issues.

00:19:28.060 And so these ideas that we're proposing now are just ideas that we've come up to be creative.

00:19:33.960 They're, I mean, as I said, they're new.

00:19:35.960 There's no experience really in trying what we're doing.

00:19:40.660 And the last two times, we just outweighed them.

00:19:44.440 And the governor, the governors kept calling, Governor Perry, Governor Abbott kept calling them back.

00:19:49.280 And eventually, we got it done.

00:19:50.900 So, you know, I guess we're just a little more action-oriented and a little more creative this time,

00:19:56.300 trying to push the envelope to get them back here sooner so we can get this done.

00:20:00.320 What would you say, and I'm going to get my popcorn because I bet the answer is going to be good,

00:20:06.520 to people like J.B. Pritzker, Governor of Illinois, to Kathy Hochul, Governor of New York,

00:20:13.880 to Gavin Newsom, Governor of California, who say Texas is effectively destroying democracy by redistricting? 0.99

00:20:21.300 I would say they're hypocrites. 0.97

00:20:23.780 I mean, their own states are so gerrymandered. 0.98

00:20:26.960 I mean, look at our maps versus their maps.

00:20:29.080 It's ridiculous to look at Illinois.

00:20:32.000 Massachusetts, you know, has zero Republican representation in the state that has 37 percent Republican.

00:20:39.740 Illinois, 44 percent has only three representatives of a Republican.

00:20:44.020 So, I mean, I don't know how they say it with a straight face, but they do.

00:20:48.160 Apparently, they're really willing to just be dishonest because they know they've done it.

00:20:52.960 They've done it for decades, and they're just appalled that you guys can't do what we've done.

00:20:58.580 And but yet here we are.

00:21:01.160 You guys in Texas are destroying democracy.

00:21:05.120 What we did when we gerrymandered our state to almost, you know, many of the states have no Republican representation.

00:21:10.740 That is not destroying democracy because we're Democrats.

00:21:13.820 And so in terms of the law, you're the attorney general for the state of Texas, they are they in clear violation?

00:21:21.900 Are they arguing that what they're doing is somehow not a violation of Texas statute?

00:21:26.640 Because the way it's no surprise, the way it's talked about in the media, they pretend like there's a lot of gray area and this is done before.

00:21:34.520 And, you know, what does the law say about their obligation to actually show up for a quorum?

00:21:42.940 Well, they're obligated under House rules.

00:21:45.680 They're there.

00:21:47.040 They represent the people of their area, but they're under the hundred obligation of their own rules that they pass to show up to vote.

00:21:56.460 And when they don't do that, they can be held in, you know, basically in contempt by their own body.

00:22:03.400 So they say that their own body voted on rules that they were a part of that says exactly the opposite.

00:22:10.360 So they're not being honest.

00:22:11.380 They're being very disingenuous.

00:22:12.880 And, of course, as you're not surprised, the mainstream media plays along.

00:22:17.720 So you're also in the midst of running as a Republican candidate in the Senate race that will happen next year.

00:22:27.880 You're in the in the midst of a lot of different things going on.

00:22:32.240 How would you assess that that race?

00:22:35.940 And do you think President Trump is likely to weigh in in one form or fashion?

00:22:42.000 So, I mean, I did my polling before I got in, but I did.

00:22:45.960 I used Cruz's pollster.

00:22:47.220 I used another pollster that did Trump's polling.

00:22:49.920 I did.

00:22:50.140 I did three polls.

00:22:51.940 All of them had me up by at least 25 points.

00:22:54.580 I don't think that's changed much.

00:22:56.340 You know, you can have different pollsters looking at different things, but it was very consistent.

00:23:00.300 And it's based on John Cornyn's past 23 years as a U.S.

00:23:04.060 senator.

00:23:04.440 And you can go back further.

00:23:05.480 He's been in office since I was in college and I'm 62.

00:23:07.980 He has not represented Texas well.

00:23:10.120 He's he's been opposed to President Trump being president both times, insinuated that he was guilty of crimes.

00:23:17.220 And now suddenly, you know, he had a conversion experience on April 8th when I got in the race.

00:23:21.000 And now he loves Trump after hating him for the entire time he's been in office.

00:23:25.220 He's been opposed to building a wall on the border, which most my constituents were disgusted by.

00:23:30.760 And, of course, President Trump had just the opposite view.

00:23:33.740 And he fought with Joe Biden to restrict Second Amendment rights, which Texans obviously do not want Second Amendment rights restricted.

00:23:42.760 But he, John Cornyn, fought with Biden to make that happen.

00:23:46.880 So if you look at his record, he has not represented Texas well.

00:23:50.680 There's not a distinguishing feature other than he tells us now that he's with Trump all of the time.

00:23:56.320 It's just not true. It's dishonest.

00:23:59.540 You know, we're putting a lot of time and attention, Mr. Attorney General, on what's going on in D.C. now with Trump trying to bring the crime numbers down

00:24:08.360 and federalizing the Metro Police for a period of time, as he can under the Home Rule Act of 1973 for the District of Columbia.

00:24:16.760 But we've also raised how this could set a precedent, especially if there are points on the board, so to speak,

00:24:23.980 if Trump shows success here, for other law enforcement efforts that would use federal partners in conjunction with local law enforcement.

00:24:33.740 And I'm wondering if this is something that you're already considering or are you in conversation with the Trump White House about?

00:24:40.440 Because, you know, Houston, I have a lot of friends in Houston, a lovely place, but there's some crime there.

00:24:46.640 There's some crime problems.

00:24:47.680 Same thing, I believe, in Dallas in some areas.

00:24:50.820 So I'm wondering if this is something that you think could be a template in your state or just in general across the country.

00:24:59.100 No, I think in general it's certainly something, given that these cities are very liberal,

00:25:05.280 they're district attorneys funded by Soros.

00:25:07.400 We have the same problem in, you know, Travis County, Austin, and other major cities in our state,

00:25:13.620 where they won't prosecute and they defund the police and make it very difficult for crime to be prosecuted.

00:25:21.320 So I don't know.

00:25:23.000 Since in my case the legislature doesn't give the authority to the attorney general to prosecute crimes, leaves it up to the DAs,

00:25:30.360 I think any help we can get from the federal government to shut down crime and stop the increase that we have in our cities that are run by Democrats, I'm for.

00:25:41.520 Ultimately, do you expect, I know the FBI has gotten involved,

00:25:46.300 do you expect for there to be any arrests outside of state of any of these Texas lawmakers?

00:25:52.540 Like what is the rubber meets the road moment?

00:25:55.280 At some point the expectation, I think, is that they can't live outside of the state forever and they'll have to return.

00:26:01.740 But while they're out of state, do you expect any arrests or any seizures to occur?

00:26:07.440 I don't expect, I mean, the FBI would have to have a federal crime.

00:26:10.660 I don't see them arresting.

00:26:12.440 This is not a federal crime.

00:26:14.380 I mean, love it if they could get them back somehow.

00:26:16.000 For us, the actions that we're taking in Illinois, I think, are our best shot is getting these states, these courts, to recognize our laws and help us get them back.

00:26:29.240 Otherwise, we're going to be in the same situation we've been in the past.

00:26:32.580 We just, they don't want to live in Chicago the rest of their life and go through the winter.

00:26:36.880 They're going to have to come back.

00:26:37.840 They have jobs, families, and ultimately that has been successful both times.

00:26:41.740 It just took longer and, you know, we spent a lot of money and waste a lot of time.

00:26:45.880 But ultimately, we got our registering maps passed in the past both times.

00:26:50.420 So we're not going to give up.

00:26:52.280 We're just trying to expedite the process because it's ridiculous that this is what we have to go through.

00:26:56.660 All right.

00:26:57.240 Biggest question right now for you.

00:26:59.400 The last time I think Buck and I saw you in person was actually at a Texas-Alabama football game down in Austin.

00:27:07.000 Within about three weeks, basically one V2 is going to be taking place.

00:27:12.820 The Texas Longhorns have opened as the number one team in the country.

00:27:16.580 They're going on the road in Columbus, Ohio, against the defending national champion, Ohio State Buckeyes.

00:27:22.680 What happens?

00:27:24.380 You know what?

00:27:25.240 I'm optimistic that Texas will pull it out.

00:27:27.780 They've done it before.

00:27:28.280 The last time I went to a Texas-Ohio State game on the road was when Texas won the national championship and they beat Ohio State at Ohio State.

00:27:37.820 That was Vince Young, right, if I remember correctly?

00:27:40.240 Yep.

00:27:40.640 I was there.

00:27:41.380 I loved it.

00:27:42.180 And, you know, no one expected us to win that game.

00:27:44.840 But I am predicting we're going to have a repeat of, I think it was 2005, of the Ohio State opening game against Texas where Texas pulled out a win.

00:27:55.300 I remember that game like it was yesterday.

00:27:58.660 You know, Buck, that led into what I think is the greatest college football game of my life into the year, Rose Bowl, Texas, USC, the most watched college football game of the 21st century that I imagine, Mr. Attorney General, you sometimes think about fondly still to this day.

00:28:16.400 I do.

00:28:17.260 I was there.

00:28:18.100 I literally, when the game was over, I thought, this is the greatest college game I've ever seen.

00:28:22.560 And I almost thought, how can I go to another college game after witnessing this masterpiece, really, by both teams?

00:28:29.120 It was just amazing.

00:28:31.920 I still get kind of chilled talking about it because it was such a remarkable game.

00:28:37.800 Amen.

00:28:38.920 Well, look, keep us updated on how this is going on.

00:28:41.840 You know, you can come on any time.

00:28:43.340 And we appreciate all the work you all are doing down there.

00:28:46.360 Hey, I appreciate it.

00:28:47.040 You guys have a great day.

00:28:47.760 We're going to win this.

00:28:49.000 Thank you.

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00:30:53.520 Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset?

00:30:55.480 Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck.

00:30:57.720 It does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil.

00:31:00.500 The formal name is BRICS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.

00:31:05.600 But they've just added five new members.

00:31:07.780 Smart move to stick with BRICS. 1.00

00:31:09.620 We know what happens when acronyms don't end.

00:31:11.820 They confuse everyone.

00:31:13.040 Well, that's an understatement.

00:31:14.480 BRICS is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.

00:31:19.540 Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.

00:31:22.100 I'm listening.

00:31:23.080 Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne.

00:31:25.240 He's a precious metal specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group.

00:31:29.420 He's on the ground in Rio getting the whole lowdown on what's going on there.

00:31:33.680 Can he give us some inside intel?

00:31:35.460 Absolutely.

00:31:36.200 He's been there since day one.

00:31:38.080 In fact, a major theme at the summit is how BRICS nations aim to reduce reliance on the U.S. dollar in global trade.

00:31:44.600 Yikes.

00:31:45.040 That doesn't sound good.

00:31:46.060 We got to get Philip on the line, Stat.

00:31:48.300 Already did.

00:31:49.160 And he left the Clay and Buck audience this message.

00:31:51.720 The world is moving on from the dollar.

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00:32:07.840 But make no mistake, it's already begun.

00:32:10.460 Thank you, Philip.

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00:32:36.900 All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck.

00:32:39.000 Let's get some calls, some talkbacks here from all of you.

00:32:42.620 Thank you so much.

00:32:43.740 Some of you coming to my defense on the e-scooter thing, which is very kind of you.

00:32:48.380 You know, it's efficient, Clay.

00:32:50.680 I'm sorry.

00:32:51.400 Some of us want to keep our carbon footprint small.

00:32:53.800 There is a 0% chance, if I were single, that I would have scooted anywhere.

00:32:58.380 I mean, I would have been late for every meeting just because I would have been afraid that some girl would come by and see me on the scooter and never date me again. 1.00

00:33:06.840 This is going to sound like I'm making it up, but I'm not making it up.

00:33:09.840 But I feel like we're all a family here, so I will tell you this.

00:33:12.860 Okay.

00:33:14.640 During COVID, a couple of years before I met my wife, when I was a single guy, I was out trying to meet the love of my life, my beloved Carrie.

00:33:26.120 And I hadn't met her yet.

00:33:27.440 And it was a couple of years before.

00:33:29.500 And I had the scooter.

00:33:31.060 Because, you know, during COVID, that was when it was great to have the scooter because you could fly all over New York.

00:33:34.560 Not fly, but you could move really fast all over New York City.

00:33:36.480 Because there were very few people out and about at that time.

00:33:39.220 So I could get all over.

00:33:40.960 But, you know, restaurants will be open sometimes.

00:33:42.760 And I remember I was like, you know what?

00:33:44.980 I was like, for this, this is a true story.

00:33:47.100 I was like, for this, it was a second date.

00:33:49.020 It wasn't a first date.

00:33:50.040 I was like, but for this date, you know what?

00:33:52.360 I'm just going to show up on my scooter because it's convenient.

00:33:55.300 And, like, I'll give her a ride home on my little e-scooter.

00:33:59.580 And I didn't really think this through.

00:34:01.340 You know, she's a petite lady. 1.00

00:34:03.780 She wasn't big. 0.99

00:34:04.820 I didn't really think this through, though.

00:34:06.600 Those things are not meant for two people.

00:34:08.300 So when she got on the back of it and we tried to go, I'm not kidding.

00:34:13.340 We were going 0.5 miles an hour.

00:34:16.400 I mean, it was moving.

00:34:17.340 You would have been better off walking.

00:34:19.120 Oh, walking is way faster.

00:34:21.420 We were moving, but it was moving at the speed of, like, a toddler's Tonka truck.

00:34:25.340 You know what I mean?

00:34:25.820 When it kind of goes in the driveway.

00:34:27.880 And we had a sustained laugh at my expense.

00:34:32.340 And I don't think there was a third date.

00:34:34.220 But we did have fun.

00:34:35.040 Yeah, there you go.

00:34:35.540 I wouldn't have kept dating you.

00:34:37.020 I mean, I would have been, like, this guy's riding a scooter.

00:34:39.220 He won't even splurge for an Uber ride back home.

00:34:44.040 It's probably cold.

00:34:45.180 The wind's blowing.

00:34:45.780 I do wish there was video of my face, though.

00:34:48.480 Because, you know, I hit the throttle and I didn't know.

00:34:51.800 And it kind of, like, lurched forward.

00:34:53.420 And then it was just at turtle speed.

00:34:56.700 I mean, it was old ladies with walkers were telling me to get out of the way, slowpoke. 1.00

00:35:01.580 It was really not good.

00:35:02.960 I remember this is kind of funny date story.

00:35:06.120 Not for me.

00:35:06.860 I've been married for 25 years or whatever the heck it is.

00:35:10.300 22 years next year.

00:35:12.260 Next month.

00:35:13.100 This month.

00:35:13.760 Anyway, a long time.

00:35:15.200 21 years.

00:35:15.840 And, but I remember a girl being like, yeah, I went on a date.

00:35:21.440 She was like, I'm a little, we used to do, I do anonymous mailbags at Outkick.

00:35:25.840 And I would answer a lot of questions.

00:35:27.180 Girl was like, yeah, I went on a first date.

00:35:29.020 She's like, I just, I don't really feel like he was into me.

00:35:31.360 And I was like, you know, in the email.

00:35:33.020 And she was like, and as evidence of that, she said he paid with a gift certificate.

00:35:37.700 And I was like, I was like, I'm sorry, ladies.

00:35:42.880 If you go out to dinner with a guy on the very first date and he pays with a gift certificate,

00:35:49.840 then he is really not that into you because he's not even willing to pull out the actual credit card.

00:35:56.300 And it's even funnier if it's like, can you just take the 20, you know, it's like a $25 gift certificate.

00:36:01.480 So, you know, I'm just telling you, I don't believe maybe there's somebody listening.

00:36:06.000 I don't believe there's a single marriage that has ever resulted from a first date or a man paid for the dinner with a gift certificate.

00:36:13.420 Because I think women are like, like, look, I mean, I'm not saying that I expected the absolute sun and moon and stars on the first date. 0.88

00:36:24.760 But you took me to Applebee's or Outback and you whipped out like the Outback gift certificate for the Bloomin' Onion.

00:36:32.060 And I'm just not saying that that's the guy that you want to spend the rest of your life with.

00:36:36.480 Maybe there's somebody out there.

00:36:37.620 If there is a single person listening who went out on a first date and the guy she's with paid with a gift certificate, gift card, then maybe I'm wrong.

00:36:49.120 I don't think there's a single relationship that has ever come from a first date gift certificate.

00:36:54.860 So, that is my advice to men out there, that if you're dating a girl or if you're the girl, if he's paying for you with a gift certificate, he's not that into you.

00:37:04.200 He wasn't even willing to actually use real cash.

00:37:07.480 He's using what his mom gave him for Christmas to take you out for Bloomin' Onions.

00:37:13.860 Still preferable to splitting the check on the first date, I will say.

00:37:17.640 So, it's a little, it's, you know, this is purgatory.

00:37:21.200 This is like in between, right?

00:37:22.500 I mean, it's not great, but not terrible.

00:37:24.720 Guys, you got to pick up the check.

00:37:26.180 Even if you don't like her.

00:37:27.560 Even if she's a lit.

00:37:28.820 Even if she's a Bernie Sanders voting, purple haired, you didn't know this is what you were getting into date, you pay on the first date, guys.

00:37:36.260 Don't, don't, don't make it.

00:37:37.620 We have young, we have young single men listeners here, 20s, 30s, 40s, guys who are single out there.

00:37:43.020 You pay on the first date, boys.

00:37:44.400 I agree.

00:37:45.100 100%.

00:37:45.500 It's just the way it is.

00:37:46.420 There's no ifs, ands, or buts.

00:37:47.640 All right.

00:37:48.540 Norman in NYC wants to weigh in.

00:37:51.080 What's going on, Norman?

00:37:52.700 I'm still laughing about the credit card, the gift card.

00:37:56.720 Gift card.

00:37:57.280 You can't do it, Norman.

00:37:58.320 You can't do it.

00:37:59.100 You've probably been married for 30 years, but I'm trying to help the young men out there.

00:38:02.920 Don't screw this up.

00:38:04.000 Oh, my God.

00:38:05.240 The card was given to him by his mother.

00:38:07.480 Oh, my God.

00:38:08.560 Yeah, it's like you got a Christmas gift card for the Outback Steakhouse.

00:38:11.960 You're not even willing to take and pay the girls dinner for yourself.

00:38:15.060 Your mom and dad are paying for it.

00:38:16.480 Just can't do it.

00:38:17.640 Oh, my God.

00:38:20.660 Oh, my God.

00:38:21.620 You got Norman.

00:38:22.700 Do we have to come back to Norman?

00:38:24.460 Norman's, he's tickled over there.

00:38:26.840 Let me say this.

00:38:27.760 I think, first and foremost, Washington, D.C. should be the safest community on the planet.

00:38:34.500 Yeah.

00:38:34.640 First and foremost.

00:38:35.580 That is where the president of the United States, dignitaries come from all over the world.

00:38:40.160 There is no excuses, no excuses for one thing to be going wrong in Washington, D.C.

00:38:45.980 The second thing is I agree with the president and the National Guard there.

00:38:49.780 And I think that it's important that the mayor takes the pride off the shoulder and say, I'm getting additional help in Washington, D.C. to be able to combat the problems that we face.

00:39:02.120 I think that what I would do is pair up one law enforcement officer from the district with one National Guardsman to give it more power, to give people more comfortability.

00:39:13.380 The word National Guard is scaring people.

00:39:16.360 It's additional law enforcement.

00:39:18.380 New York City talks about the fact that we need more police.

00:39:21.200 Well, how?

00:39:21.740 Take the 4,000 or 5,000 National Guardsmen that want to be deployed.

00:39:27.080 Give them the opportunity to work alongside another police officer.

00:39:29.900 Can I point out something as well, Norman?

00:39:31.780 All the people that don't, I totally agree with your sentiments here.

00:39:34.740 All the people that are freaking out about Trump deploying National Guard to help with law enforcement, they were fine with National Guard holding empty M-16s at airports during COVID as if that had anything to do with anything.

00:39:48.440 I mean, they just had people standing there with guns making you fill out contact tracing forms.

00:39:53.500 What was the National Guard going to do?

00:39:55.540 Hand me some extra Kleenexes?

00:39:57.300 It was absurd.

00:39:58.480 And they were all fine with that. 0.97

00:39:59.720 I just want to point out, no purpose for them whatsoever other than a show of force, because we were all supposed to obey and bend the knee to Fauci, that vile turd. 0.71

00:40:08.080 Oh, absolutely. 0.55

00:40:09.180 And let me say this.

00:40:10.100 Tell a mother that lost her child to gun violence that she doesn't want more police in the community.

00:40:16.520 Tell a father that doesn't have one.

00:40:19.000 Come on, man.

00:40:19.780 Get with POTUS.

00:40:20.620 Let's do what we got to do.

00:40:21.600 Yes, we're in uncharted territories in some area, but the ship is turning.

00:40:26.160 Let's get on board, turn the ship, and go in a different direction.

00:40:29.340 Because all of this other stuff from the Democrats have not been working.

00:40:32.840 It's just been kicking the can down the road.

00:40:35.680 That's a great call, Norman.

00:40:36.720 I agree with him.

00:40:38.120 And you mentioned this yesterday, Buck, and we'll play a cut for you maybe in a little bit.

00:40:41.760 We're going to take a couple more calls.

00:40:43.440 But I think Muriel Bowser, the mayor of D.C., actually agrees with Trump, but politically is not able to say that.

00:40:50.920 Listen to her answers and how she's trying to thread that fine line.

00:40:54.760 I think she welcomes the support.

00:40:56.560 She is not.

00:40:57.020 If this were happening in Chicago, Mayor Johnson would be screaming about Nazism and racism and Trump as, like, the head of the KKK.

00:41:08.080 I mean, it would be a complete meltdown, okay?

00:41:10.540 Complete meltdown.

00:41:12.320 That's not what you're getting from Mayor Bowser.

00:41:13.980 She was pretty, you know, I mean, she's saying, I don't think we need it.

00:41:17.840 She's trying to defend her record a little.

00:41:19.240 Maybe we should get to some of those clips.

00:41:21.660 She's not coming out swinging hard at Trump on these things because I think she wants to leave open the possibility of taking credit for it.

00:41:32.040 Yeah.

00:41:32.240 Which, if it gets better, she'll take a victory lap. 1.00

00:41:35.020 And you know what?

00:41:35.500 If she doesn't stand in the way, fine.

00:41:37.920 You know?

00:41:38.260 She should.

00:41:38.700 As long as it's getting better there, because we all know that people will understand that Trump was the instigator of these improvements.

00:41:45.460 But, yeah, I think it's very interesting to see how that dynamic plays out.

00:41:49.500 We've also got here who's next up.

00:41:51.860 David in Florida is next up.

00:41:53.400 Thank you, David in Florida.

00:41:54.440 Yes.

00:41:55.040 Hey, listen, Buck, when the bike went dead, who pushed who on taking it back?

00:42:00.740 Yeah, what happened when the scooter was failing?

00:42:02.880 What did you do?

00:42:03.560 Did you, like, just kick her to the curb and ride home?

00:42:07.460 I will tell you, I called an Uber for her to take her home. 1.00

00:42:11.860 And then I kind of sadly, I didn't even really want to ride the scooter anymore.

00:42:16.040 I kind of walked it home.

00:42:17.040 You know when you skinned your knee as a kid on your bike and you were, like, unsure of it, you know?

00:42:21.700 And you're like, I don't know.

00:42:22.740 Like, I skinned my knee.

00:42:23.820 That's kind of how I felt about my e-scooter.

00:42:25.560 It was like I was defeated and I just walked alongside it in sorrow alone.

00:42:30.280 Yeah, took your soccer ball and went home.

00:42:32.780 So, you know, the solutions today for D.C. 0.85

00:42:35.880 and the mayor's solution is as ridiculous as it was when Marion Barry was in office.

00:42:40.460 In the early 90s, it was the Merrill Capital of the World, I think, a couple years consecutive. 0.58

00:42:45.340 And that solution was to change the name of the basketball team from the Washington Bullets

00:42:50.220 because it had Bullets to the Washington Wizards.

00:42:52.860 That was their solution.

00:42:54.020 I remember this. 0.96

00:42:55.200 And it's just completely out of ridiculous, at a ridiculous level now. 0.88

00:43:00.440 Thank you for the call. 0.80

00:43:01.540 I want to ask you a question real quick.

00:43:05.100 I know maybe 4th of July or something.

00:43:07.240 Could you guys maybe play an old Paul Harvey rest of the story, the signers of the Declaration of Independence?

00:43:12.580 It's a great rest of the story, man.

00:43:14.640 I think everybody will appreciate it.

00:43:16.060 Well, that's fun.

00:43:17.340 That is a question for rights for people way smarter than me, meaning producer Allie can look into it. 0.97

00:43:25.440 By the way, I will say, 250th anniversary.

00:43:28.600 I just saw this come across the Twitter wire here, Buck.

00:43:32.320 UFC fight, South Lawn, July 4th, 2026.

00:43:37.340 That is, according to Dana White, and I think Ivanka Trump is working on trying to put this thing on.

00:43:45.400 They are going to do the fight and then have the fireworks.

00:43:48.720 I'm going to try to pull some strings for us, Buck.

00:43:53.000 That's one of the coolest sporting events of all time, to see a UFC competition on the South Lawn of the White House

00:44:00.100 and have it sort of connected also simultaneously to the extraordinary July 4th on the 250th anniversary of the United States.

00:44:10.660 It doesn't get much trumpier than that.

00:44:14.020 But that, by the way, speaking of July 4th, is underway right now.

00:44:17.140 Let's get one more quickly in here. 0.94

00:44:18.600 Barney in North Carolina, what you got for us?

00:44:22.340 Yeah, my thing is with D.C. and all these other big cities, they're all Democratic-run and Democratic-run states,

00:44:30.360 and they're all anti-Second Amendment.

00:44:34.140 And is there any correlation with the violence and crime with that?

00:44:37.980 Thank you for the call.

00:44:40.980 Barney, I bet, was a big fan of Andy Griffith back in the day, maybe named after the legendary Barney Fife.

00:44:47.300 That is, by the way, one of the all-time great shows.

00:44:51.060 Did you ever grow up watching Andy Griffith's show, Buck?

00:44:54.300 Oh, no.

00:44:55.360 Andy Griffith's show is still so good.

00:44:57.540 Black and white Andy Griffith, before they went to the color version.

00:45:02.540 Old school Andy Griffith shows, Opie, everything else, MP, so good.

00:45:06.540 So, what's interesting is, we have seen skyrocketing levels of firearms purchased since 2018-ish.

00:45:17.080 I think if any firearm maker out there were looking at it, there are way more guns on the street now than ever before.

00:45:24.240 And many of the places with the highest rates of gun ownership are actually seeing much lower rates of gun violence.

00:45:34.180 And many of the places with the most restrictive laws on gun ownership are seeing record high levels of gun violence.

00:45:42.860 Again, it is, the legal gun owner, as many of you know out there, is actually one of the most law-abiding people.

00:45:51.020 Like, leave aside gun crime, they actually commit crimes at infinitely lower rates than anybody else. 0.51

00:45:55.480 Conceal carry permit holders in this country have a lower violation of the law rate than law enforcement.

00:46:03.940 So, wow.

00:46:05.720 Yeah.

00:46:06.300 That's a heck of a stat.

00:46:07.820 That's a heck of a stat.

00:46:08.780 It doesn't surprise me.

00:46:10.540 But that is super interesting.

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00:48:42.820 Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.

00:48:44.980 Appreciate all of you rolling through the program with me.

00:48:49.900 I, so many people weigh in.

00:48:52.200 We're going to have some fun on my contention that you cannot take a first date out and pay for it on a gift certificate.

00:49:00.900 Which I would continue to hammer home.

00:49:05.780 Some news that is out there.

00:49:08.360 The Caroline Leavitt has been having a press availability.

00:49:13.300 A White House press conference.

00:49:15.440 And she has confirmed that the big meeting between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin will occur in Anchorage.

00:49:22.680 Anchorage, Alaska coming up on Friday will be a huge story for what exactly we will hope to be a successful meeting.

00:49:34.980 And as we told you yesterday, President Trump will know relatively quickly whether he says there is a deal to be made here.

00:49:43.540 Or he is still kind of getting yanked around, for lack of a better phrase, to explain why this ongoing negotiation continues.

00:49:53.020 Some positive news.

00:49:54.820 The inflation report that came out this morning continues to be low.

00:50:00.480 Inflation at 2.7%.

00:50:03.140 The stock market has surged as a result of that report.

00:50:08.840 As inflation came in lower than expected for, I think, the fifth month in the last six.

00:50:15.300 There has not been a major inflation impact at all from, so far, President Trump's tariffs.

00:50:21.400 And we have new stock market records all over the NASDAQ, all over the S&P 500, the Dow Jones Industrial.

00:50:30.780 If you have a 401k, your stocks are setting record highs.

00:50:35.860 So your retirement is doing very, very well.

00:50:38.800 And I'll continue to echo, if you were just not a panicker, if you did not panic in April when everybody tried to tell you,

00:50:48.580 oh my goodness, these tariffs are going to destroy the economy, there's no way to continue to live this way,

00:50:55.920 it is the case that I believe the Trump economy is starting, starting to fire on all cylinders.

00:51:03.520 Growth in wages is outpacing growth in cost, which is the most important, I would say, measurement economically,

00:51:13.600 because it means you have more money in your pocket.

00:51:16.180 Now, I know many of you out there are still very frustrated by the price of goods,

00:51:20.380 which skyrocketed during the Biden administration when we got to over 9% inflation.

00:51:25.520 I understand when people say, hey, things still feel like they cost too much.

00:51:29.640 Unfortunately, inflation is embedded.

00:51:32.600 We very rarely ever go backwards in price, so the best thing you can hope for is that prices stop growing at exponential rates,

00:51:40.340 which is, again, where we are.

00:51:43.680 We've got a bunch of people who want to weigh in on a variety of topics.

00:51:46.640 Let me hit you with one bit of news.

00:51:48.880 I should have hit this last week.

00:51:50.020 I kind of missed it.

00:51:50.700 I think it happened Thursday after the show.

00:51:53.100 I didn't talk about it on Friday, but I think it is an important cultural hallmark here.

00:51:58.340 Gina Carano.

00:51:59.900 Buck, did you ever watch The Mandalorian on Disney Plus?

00:52:03.140 I thought the first season was excellent, and then it kind of crashed into the planet.

00:52:10.000 Laura, my wife, watches all these shows, and she watches them generally with our boys.

00:52:15.840 They love The Mandalorian.

00:52:17.700 It was a Disney Plus Star Wars-related show.

00:52:20.720 So, Disney fired Gina Carano for having very, what I would say is just a little bit right of center opinions on social media. 1.00

00:52:29.180 She later sued.

00:52:30.380 They fired her in 2021.

00:52:32.520 Friday last week, Disney apologized to her and basically said, hey, we're going to rehire you.

00:52:39.620 We talk about these things because I do think the cultural significance of them is becoming more and more paramount.

00:52:47.300 And, Buck, I'll add this.

00:52:48.740 I saw this story up at Mediate and also up at Outkick.

00:52:53.840 Sydney Sweeney, the ad that was so controversial, we were all told, only 12% of Americans, according to a big poll that was conducted,

00:53:06.400 actually found this ad in any way offensive.

00:53:09.760 40% thought that it was a very successful ad.

00:53:14.260 A lot of other people didn't care at all one way or the other.

00:53:17.380 But it is interesting how the left wing, I think, their ability to bully and try to force people not to be able to say,

00:53:27.920 hey, being a white girl with blue eyes and blonde hair is a perfectly fine advertisement. 1.00

00:53:33.960 The way that they ran and hid from this and tried to, they've gotten used to being able to bully people into apologizing and not doing ads like this.

00:53:43.760 I do think the best advice I have for anyone out there is do the opposite of what's popular on Twitter.

00:53:50.440 Twitter, and very often your business will thrive because Twitter is not real life.

00:53:56.100 And I think this is yet more evidence of that being true.

00:53:59.400 Well, X now is a lot more reflective of real life than it used to be.

00:54:05.980 That's true.

00:54:06.380 I remember it.

00:54:06.880 It's funny.

00:54:07.540 Ever since the social justice communists were kicked out of there by Elon, I never get dragged, they used to call it,

00:54:15.800 piled on publicly by some random writers from Vox or something.

00:54:21.960 This doesn't happen anymore.

00:54:23.660 Yeah, sure.

00:54:24.120 And I think there was a tremendous amount of both suppression and amplification in favor of communist madness.

00:54:31.020 Well, we know there was.

00:54:32.240 I mean, that's what Elon bought it, and we saw that, and that was real.

00:54:36.020 Yeah, there are honestly so many of these people who a decade ago loved to be all tough on Twitter. 0.98

00:54:42.900 They're all leftist cowards. 0.96

00:54:45.380 They don't pick fights anymore. 0.99

00:54:47.060 They don't want to because they know now that they don't have the rigged game in effect.

00:54:52.320 So I'm very grateful that that has changed.

00:54:54.820 Let me play a couple of clips for you that are starting to echo throughout the Internet ecosystem.

00:55:03.080 The chief of police for D.C., they had a press conference.

00:55:08.920 Mayor Muriel Bowser was also there.

00:55:11.880 The chief of police had absolutely no idea what the phrase chain of command was.

00:55:19.280 And just listen to this clip and think to yourself, does this sound like a person who should be in charge of keeping people safe in D.C.?

00:55:27.820 The mayor then has to step in, and I think it's evidence of what we have kind of told you, which is I think the mayor does want additional resources.

00:55:36.880 Politically, it's just hard for her to endorse the decision made by Donald Trump.

00:55:41.360 But listen to this clip.

00:55:43.280 That's what the chain of command is now.

00:55:46.040 What does that mean?

00:55:46.700 Is it Pam Bondi speaking to the mayor speaking to you, or how does this work?

00:55:50.300 So the executive order is clear.

00:55:53.660 The president has requested NPD services, and our home rule charter outlines the process.

00:56:01.780 The president designated Attorney General Bondi as his proxy to request services through me.

00:56:11.300 Okay, so I know that's a little bit confusing.

00:56:13.500 The video makes it easier.

00:56:14.560 The chief of police did not seem to understand the concept of chain of command, and so she had to step back.

00:56:21.320 And then the mayor came in and kind of explained how this was laying out, which is the president is at the top of the chain of command in D.C.

00:56:29.660 as it pertains to federal leadership there, which I do think is kind of important.

00:56:36.560 All right.

00:56:37.080 I wanted to play this for you, Buck, because you just came back from New York City recently.

00:56:40.460 You were up there with your family.

00:56:41.840 You were born and raised in New York City.

00:56:43.560 George Will, I think he's still at the Washington Post, one of the foremost conservative columnists of the last 40 years probably, was on with Bill Maher.

00:56:53.820 And he said the same thing that I said recently, which is sometimes you just have to let Democrats deal with the consequences of their choices.

00:57:05.180 And so this argument is starting to spread a little bit, and I want to get your take, because I don't know that you've talked about what you saw in New York City and how the city felt.

00:57:13.560 But listen to this.

00:57:14.920 Here you have Trump, who is the Republican, who is aggrandizing more power than anybody, as we just talked about.

00:57:22.900 And on the other side, you have the guy running in New York, Mandami, right?

00:57:28.200 OK, who's like a straight up communist.

00:57:30.760 I mean, he is.

00:57:31.700 He talks about, you know, the things that communists say.

00:57:34.680 I mean, he wants free grocery stores, free buses.

00:57:38.520 I want him to win.

00:57:39.760 You want him to win?

00:57:40.680 Yeah.

00:57:40.820 I think every 20 years or so, we need a conspicuous, confined experiment with socialism so we can crack it up again.

00:57:56.520 OK, Buck, you were just in New York City.

00:58:00.120 It seems like there's sort of a slow moving panic setting in because Mom Donnie is remaining in the lead, even though he's clearly got communist opinions.

00:58:10.820 Neither Cuomo, Eric Adams, nor Curtis Sliwa has been able to say, hey, this is going to be the primary adversary.

00:58:17.620 What's the vibe there so far as you could tell?

00:58:20.180 And what do you think of George Will's argument?

00:58:23.120 Well, the vibe is is the slow growth of the panicking mindset, I think, that Mom Donnie is going to win.

00:58:33.040 Yes.

00:58:33.480 Because the alternatives to him, none of them are good, and they're all very good at canceling each other out.

00:58:41.240 And I know, please, don't send me the Curtis Sliwa, Curtis Sliwa.

00:58:44.880 I'm sure Curtis is a great guy.

00:58:46.200 I've interviewed him before.

00:58:47.180 He's not going to be the mayor of New York City.

00:58:48.640 OK, it's just not going to happen.

00:58:49.660 So I wish that was not the case, but this is a bit like when libertarians once every four years send me the, our candidate's going to win the presidency.

00:58:57.980 No, he's not.

00:58:58.940 OK, it's not going to happen.

00:59:00.340 So please don't send me those emails.

00:59:02.320 And I think that, unfortunately, Mom Donnie is going to be the mayor, and that's going to result in some real problems for the city. 1.00

00:59:13.140 As for George Will, I mean, look, I cannot abide my, what is still my hometown, and I cannot abide the largest city in America being burned down as some kind of a message because the communists never get the message.

00:59:28.800 It's not like they're going to learn.

00:59:30.080 It's a bit like dealing with children, Clay, when you have to tell them, you know what, you can't actually just have, like, ice cream and pizza every night for dinner, and you're going to eat good food.

00:59:41.280 Like, we just have to be in charge, and the leftists have to not be in charge.

00:59:45.200 They never learn the lesson.

00:59:46.960 They will keep burning their hand, touching the stove when it's hot.

00:59:50.440 They never learn the lesson.

00:59:51.680 So I disagree with George Will, who, by the way, lives in Chevy Chase.

00:59:54.620 I was talking about Chevy Chase before.

00:59:55.820 So he lives in a very rich, very affluent suburb of D.C., and it's easy for him with a little bow tie on, who's been wrong about everything Trump-related, I might add.

01:00:06.820 He's been one of those.

01:00:08.240 One of those.

01:00:10.340 And, you know, Trump wouldn't get into his country club, I'm sure.

01:00:13.600 But, you know, it's, I think that it's a bad idea because the lessons aren't learned.

01:00:22.080 I mean, look at San Francisco.

01:00:24.280 They dial it back a little bit, but it's not like the Democrats have said, you know what, San Francisco governance was a bad idea.

01:00:30.980 We're going to change our way now.

01:00:32.700 The communist never gets tired of being a communist because it's not about what is.

01:00:35.960 It's about what makes them feel.

01:00:37.160 And that's why I think New York City has a lesson, and very easy for George Will to say, but I don't think New York City has a lesson will actually have the intended result.

01:00:46.340 I'd rather us just move in the other direction and get points on the board, right?

01:00:51.020 You know, because I don't think his thing about it being an example is true.

01:00:55.080 It'd be one thing if it actually was going to be, oh, the whole country will learn.

01:00:58.260 You know what happened in New York City?

01:00:59.980 Giuliani came in and fixed the city.

01:01:02.580 That was the lesson.

01:01:03.640 They didn't learn from previous Democrat hellscape experiments in New York.

01:01:08.920 They didn't learn from Dinkins and Koch and, you know, yada, yada, go back.

01:01:13.060 So you want victory.

01:01:14.340 You don't want defeat.

01:01:15.280 Defeat is not a good teacher, unfortunately.

01:01:18.060 In this case, in general, it can be.

01:01:20.660 But my only argument is I think it makes it more likely that we win the House if people like Mom Donnie and AOC are the face of the Democrat Party by 2026.

01:01:31.100 So this is my argument.

01:01:33.960 Will did not make it thoroughly, but that we sometimes have to sacrifice the, you know, the Tigers running out there and you've got to outrun the Tiger.

01:01:42.920 And I don't think, see, I think that Mom Donnie would, maybe this will help you, which could be important.

01:01:47.820 Maybe this will help you with some New York state congressional seats.

01:01:51.280 I don't, I don't think that in purple states you're going to, there's not going to be some Mom Donnie effect of people who live in like the, he's not well enough known in your mind for people to even react to it.

01:02:02.700 And people want, people in the rest of the country aren't going to care about what the mayor of New York is doing when they're voting for Congress.

01:02:08.740 I don't think.

01:02:10.500 So in that sense, I don't see.

01:02:11.940 And also he just doesn't have the national profile.

01:02:14.460 You know, AOC and Bernie, it's funny, they are still the biggest draw that the Democrats have.

01:02:20.680 But I wonder if they really are going to have the negative effects on Democrats in the midterms that people would like to see.

01:02:27.640 I, I, I'm, uh, curious, I'm curious about it, but yeah, George will, George will, George will could use a little, uh, little dose of humility.

01:02:35.640 I think, you know, George will writing for that Washington post communist slot for a long time, being all smug with his little bow tie on, you know, you know what, buddy, you know, back of the room, you know, I know you're old guy, but back of the room, you got some things to learn.

01:02:50.060 I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, I'm not impressed.

01:02:52.180 So, you know, wrong on everything Trump related is because I just, just as dug in on Trump and as anti-Trump as anyone can be.

01:03:00.560 And for what, for what?

01:03:02.780 So the communists can run amok so we can all learn a lesson while George is playing croquet.

01:03:07.220 Sorry, not a fan.

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