00:02:23.560I wake up early in the morning sometimes and take a nice walk as the sun is rising around some of the Capitol and the other monuments and things.
00:04:09.400And I think everybody out there recognizing it and Trump trying to make it better is actually just a good thing and not particularly political.
00:04:16.900It's also remarkable that the fallback now has turned into, well, we're doing such a good job as Democrats on the Epstein thing.
00:04:26.240Yeah, that's the big, that's the big attack.
00:04:28.520That's what they're going after the administration on just to note, uh, something they didn't care about at all while Joe Biden for four years for four years.
00:04:36.940There was absolutely no discussion whatsoever from them about Epstein.
00:04:40.300Epstein, and yet here we are now being told that any, so, so anything that Trump wants to talk about that they don't want to talk about now, their go-to is he just wants to distract from Epstein.
00:04:52.700Saving people from being murdered in order to distract from Epstein, I would argue would even be, even if it were true, I would actually argue that's good.
00:05:01.420You know, Epstein's dead, um, and, uh, not committing, to my knowledge, any current crimes.
00:05:06.440I'd rather protect people from current crimes as opposed to focus on past ones personally.
00:05:11.440So even that argument is a weak one when you actually break it down in that respect.
00:05:17.280Yeah, I, I think that the whole Democrat party is desperate for anything that they can say right now that just seems like they're even in, in opposition because there's nothing they can really pull, uh, there's nothing they can really pull together.
00:05:31.420That will hit hard against where Trump currently is.
00:05:34.280I would note that on, um, uh, on the crime issue, you've had a, a, a number of people come out, come forward here.
00:05:43.400Here's my, my, uh, my old friend, S.E. Cup, actually, I wanted to play this one.
00:05:47.240Uh, she, she used to do the real new show with me at the blaze many years ago at Glenn Beck's, uh, the blaze.
00:05:52.800And, and she had this to say at CNN to the Democrats, to their faces, play seven.
00:05:57.940The numbers can be what they are, but also people don't feel that way.
00:06:01.680And when it comes to two things, crime in the economy, feelings don't really care about your facts.
00:06:06.560And I can't tell you how profoundly stupid it is for Democrats to get up with their facts and their figures and their charts and their graphs and say, look, you're safe.
00:06:26.040And I give credit, you wanted to play, uh, S.E. Cup there.
00:06:29.380This is, there's actually quite a few people on the left that are saying, you know what, again, this is a bridge too far.
00:06:36.600Joe Scarborough, who basically proved he didn't have a gag reflex as long as Joe Biden was president, even he now is saying, look, D.C. is really dangerous.
00:06:46.500And on MSNBC, they have that, uh, panel show, the morning Joe that you watch, Buck.
00:07:47.940There are stark divides among lines of race and income in the poll, with black residents and lower-income residents significantly more worried about crime than white residents and those with higher incomes.
00:08:06.360I think that's actually well said by Joe Scarborough.
00:08:09.660The base of the Democrat Party actually feels the crime that is poor black voters in a way that the left-wing, uh, media that lives in Northwest D.C.
00:08:24.480and oftentimes has private security protecting them is a bit protected from this.
00:08:30.520And this ties in with what Harry Enten is saying.
00:08:33.260Uh, this is CNN that he thinks this is a total miscalculation by Democrats, too.
00:08:38.560And, again, trying to reduce violent crime is something, historically, that almost all Americans have been in favor of.
00:09:25.560They were maintaining their edge and actually added a little bit to it.
00:09:28.480So Republicans in the House, Republicans in the Senate, they absolutely want to be talking about crime.
00:09:33.960The more they feel that we're talking about crime, the better they feel that the electoral landscape is for them.
00:09:38.680Are you surprised that this has been the Democrat position, that actually crime's getting better and that Trump, I mean, if they had come out and said, hey, he's exceeding his presidential authority, we don't like that.
00:09:51.680But to argue, hey, crime's actually down and there's no need for this, it feels like an own goal shooting themselves in the foot, even within lenient standards, because Democrats do that a lot.
00:10:03.920I'm kind of surprised that they stepped right into this bear trap.
00:10:07.380I guess they just don't really have any sense of how to pivot from something that Trump is on and come up with a better or their own version of how to fix it.
00:10:20.900Because to me, that would be they could come out and say, well, this isn't for the president to do, but we should have more resources for.
00:10:27.840Now, I think the response to that would likely be something along the lines of, yeah, we've been trying that whatever they're going to say has probably been tried before and failed for a long time.
00:10:39.040And I think that they're going to be in trouble no matter what.
00:10:41.860But they have turned something that you would think would be a more minor issue into a much larger, much longer term issue, which I find surprising.
00:10:50.260And the lack of political foresight that they have here, they've given Trump the news cycle this whole week to the point where, as we said, Chuck Schumer is saying it's because he doesn't want to talk about Epstein.
00:11:01.700But how long are they going to be pulling that one off?
00:11:04.100And also to look at the numbers, the crime numbers, they initially kept comparing it to 2023, comparing the drop in crime to the year that had the single nationwide largest increase in homicides in 60 years looks really disingenuous to anybody who understands numbers and statistics.
00:11:24.100So they're having problems all over the place.
00:11:26.920Well, I also think Scarborough's point is well taken.
00:11:29.260I mean, a Washington Post poll, what did he say, 91% of D.C. residents say crime's a problem.
00:11:34.980And I think he said 56% said it was an incredibly significant problem.
00:11:40.060You can't lie to people about what they feel.
00:11:44.660Eventually, you can address the underlying concerns.
00:11:48.660I'll give you an example on this right now.
00:11:50.640The economy is getting better under Trump.
00:11:53.100But I also understand that explaining to people that the economy is getting better is sometimes challenging because it takes a while for the national economic mood to shift and reflect what people are actually seeing.
00:12:44.020And Democrats have mostly said violent crime is not that much of an issue.
00:12:48.160And now, starting tomorrow, all of the news cycle through the entire weekend is going to be reacting to Trump and Putin and what is likely to be occurring based on that relationship.
00:13:05.120But, you know, the world is going a little bit upside down when even a guy like Joe Scarborough is saying, hey, you you're making a lot of sense here.
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00:15:16.260Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show rolling through the Thursday edition of the program.
00:15:22.680Lots of reaction rolling in to Pink Polo and his subway attack assault on an officer.
00:15:31.060But I do think it's somewhat representative of a certain left-wing response to increased police officers in D.C.
00:15:41.100There are protests now that are developing against police officers being able to protect people from being murdered.
00:15:49.660And I just, I look at this, and I do think, Buck, what Trump kind of is brilliantly exploiting in some way is the disconnect from the people who are the limousine liberal universe, as Rush would call them, who typically have their own private security.
00:16:09.700They have their own universe that tends to be far safer, where the rules are enforced and law is respected.
00:16:17.660And then most of those people, by the way, live in Northwest D.C., which, for those of you who don't know, is by far the wealthiest part of the Washington, D.C. area.
00:16:27.820And then there's all the other people who tend to live in Southeast and live in a lawless, in many ways, society, and they're begging for help, and Trump is giving it to them.
00:16:39.300And the Pink Polos of the world are furious that there are police officers out on the streets.
00:16:45.820I do think that that video that has gone mega viral is somewhat evocative of that disconnect, because, in general, I think it represents, like,
00:16:57.480if you have that level of disrespect for a police officer, it's probably because you don't feel personally threatened by violence.
00:17:07.360And that's the only reason I can think of why you're screaming at a police officer standing on the street trying to enforce the law.
00:17:14.820But I do think the Joe Scarborough commentary and that video just really kind of illustrate, in a very quick manner,
00:17:24.740what Trump has pointed out, which is most people on the left don't actually care about violence because it doesn't impact their daily life.
00:17:33.800Yeah, and they recognize that the Republicans have staked out, for a long time now, the position of,
00:17:40.160we do need to just enforce the law, we need to back police, and we need to incarcerate people, or none of this stuff gets better.
00:17:46.320And every time they're able to have it their way, or every time that experiment is run with that in mind, things do get better, things do improve.
00:17:55.300So we own this territory, so to speak, as Republicans and Democrats don't want to cede ever that we are correct.
00:18:03.360It's stubborn. It's a bit of bitterness, too, thrown in there.
00:18:06.680And as you say, it's because so many of these people, and it was like, I was taking some shots at, what was this, George Will with the bow tie the other day?
00:19:19.660Houston has a rougher time with crime, with homicide specifically and shootings than I had anticipated.
00:19:26.780It doesn't get a lot of news coverage, but that was another city, because obviously one of the biggest cities in the country that came up that definitely needs some help.
00:19:33.680I think they have a Soros DA, or at least they used to.
00:19:36.000One of the challenges on the data is where I live is Williamson County, right?
00:19:51.080There's a murder rate essentially here of zero.
00:19:53.940There might have been one or two murders in the whole county in a year.
00:19:58.040And so one of the challenges you get into, to be fair, on some of this data is some cities only count a certain part of the city, and it could be a big sprawling metropolis.
00:20:08.260And so I wonder on Houston, which is the fourth biggest city in the country, right?
00:20:15.940That's why I think the New York data is so interesting, because New York City has, what, 8 million people who live in the five boroughs of New York City, if I'm not mistaken, roughly.
00:20:26.560And you compare that 8 million with the 700,000 or so that live in D.C., and D.C. per capita is out of control.
00:20:34.700Now, some people would say, well, if you count Montgomery County and you count Arlington and all the surrounding areas, D.C. would look a lot less violent than it does when you only count the District of Columbia by itself.
00:20:48.960So, for instance, Shelby County, where Memphis is, is insanely violent.
00:20:54.640But if you counted all of the surrounding metropolitan area of Memphis, it would dial back some of the violence a little bit.
00:21:00.680So, my point on that is sometimes the data isn't entirely illustrative of the full picture.
00:21:07.200But I do think D.C., which exists in this unique world where it's just a federal district, to your point, the George Wills of the world, they live just across the border in Maryland, and they're like, there is no crime here.
00:21:19.520You're like, well, yeah, George, you probably haven't been to Southeast D.C. in 40 years, unless you count going to the Washington Nationals, like right on the edge, I think, of Southeast a little bit, is where the baseball stadium is there.
00:21:35.100So, it is, in many ways, something that I think the elite, the wealthy of D.C., just pretend doesn't exist because it doesn't come into their universe very often.
00:21:46.340And remember, this has been a big issue in D.C. for a long time.
00:21:51.020They kept the subway from going to Georgetown because they didn't want people who were poor to have easy access to people who were rich in D.C.
00:22:05.360Anybody who's been there, you have to get out at GW and walk up, or you have to now take, obviously, an Uber or walk across the river from Virginia.
00:22:13.600They tried to protect themselves from the lesser class who couldn't afford their multimillion-dollar Georgetown mansions.
00:22:26.860But, boy, they really don't want violent crime to have easy access to them, do they?
00:22:31.020And yet, Georgetown does have its spillover of, it's a lot safer than other parts of the city, of course, but there's stuff that happens in Georgetown that is, you'd be shocked for this to occur in the nicest neighborhood of other cities.
00:22:46.020So, look, Trump is right on this, and Democrats can do whatever they want with the squawking and the screaming, and they can throw a fit.
00:22:55.700At the end of the day, Trump has latched onto yet another issue, has put forward another program and set of policies where anybody who is being honest about it is saying,
00:23:07.560Yeah, that seems sensible, and they have already been doing a number of arrests.
00:23:13.740They're taking dangerous people off the streets.
00:23:18.940So, I think that you might, it's not going to be a huge change in the crime data, but it will have a positive effect.
00:23:25.100But, our subway assaulter is, was a Department of Justice employee.
00:23:33.420And, this is the kind of, I mean, this is what Attorney General Pam Bondi tweeted just a little bit ago.
00:23:39.640I just learned this defendant worked at the Department of Justice, no longer, Bondi said, in all caps.
00:23:46.480This is an example of the deep state we have been up against for seven months as we work to refocus DOJ.
00:23:52.760You will not work in this administration while disrespecting our government and law enforcement.
00:23:59.860And so, this individual is named, I want to make sure I get his name, Sean Charles Dunn, and he was a DOJ employee.
00:24:13.100But, I do think, do you think that guy in DOJ was aggressively enforcing Trump DOJ policies?
00:24:19.860I bet that he was a die-hard Kamala supporter.
00:24:23.740That's why he was screaming at the judge.
00:24:27.000And, I mean, screaming at the officer.
00:24:29.260And, why he felt like he could just pull back a sub and throw it.
00:24:32.520Because, to be fair, how many times have you seen videos of police officers just taking objects, being pelted, at these BLM protests, for instance?
00:25:28.420I mean, it doesn't look like something that a sober guy would do.
00:25:31.460So, I'm assuming the guy had been out somewhere, probably had too many drinks, was a leftist, got angry at a police officer, thought that there would be no consequences.
00:25:40.820Because there haven't been really any consequences for leftists who do anything to police officers for years.
00:25:45.640And, as the kids say, F-A, and now he's F-O-ing.
00:25:52.960I'm shocked that this guy would think that this is going to go in any, you know, doing this at any point in time is unwise.
00:26:01.000To do it right now, given the focus on this nationally, is pretty crazy.
00:26:06.760But, you know, there are people who believe this stuff about how this is martial law or the militarization of police.
00:26:13.500And this is part of, there are less of them now than there have been, but there are still people out there who think that Trump is about to declare himself, like, dictator for life.
00:26:34.400This is the part of it that's really bizarre to me.
00:26:37.620And also not understanding or being able to think about the consequences in advance of assaulting a police officer in the current environment like that when you work for the Department of Justice.
00:26:48.540I mean, you would hope that he would know that it is technically a felony to physically assault a police officer on duty.
00:26:58.080I think that this is an example of how you have protected people for leftist political thought.
00:27:06.700I think he thought that he was above the law.
00:27:09.220And I think he has now found out that there's so many Subway sandwich jokes that you can make.
00:27:17.000Where are you on, so I really can't, because of celiac disease, unfortunately, I really can't experience the full glories of the Subway sandwich.
00:30:14.660And they do a lot of it with the Sunday hang.
00:30:17.600Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up in the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:30:25.360President Trump, as we speak in the Oval Office, he will be headed to Alaska soon.
00:30:32.140We are going to talk with the governor of Alaska, Mike Dunleavy, at the bottom of this hour about the big meeting between Putin and Trump that is scheduled to take place in Anchorage and what he expects to see there.
00:30:46.700I can only imagine the amount of security that will be in place for that face-to-face meeting.
00:30:52.620And certainly, we will be covering that in earnest tomorrow.
00:30:56.860And we're going to have a couple of cuts from inside of the Oval Office.
00:31:00.040It is the 90th anniversary of the creation of Social Security.
00:31:03.860A couple of things that Trump has said, just to give you a little bit of a news bulletin here.
00:31:10.220He has said that 275,000 illegal aliens, that is, non-citizens, have been removed from Social Security.
00:31:20.780So there were, according to President Trump, a lot of people who are not citizens that were enrolled to receive Social Security.
00:31:27.680And also, that there remains an inordinate number of people who are listed as receiving Social Security, or at least in the database, over 120 years old.
00:31:41.340Elon Musk even weighed in on that commentary.
00:31:45.060All this taking place from inside of the Oval Office.
00:31:48.240Let me fill you in on the Elon Musk response to what Trump said.
00:31:53.960But basically, that there are not very many people, as you would well imagine, over the age of 100.
00:32:02.160And so, 12.4, this is according to Margot Martin, who does great work for President Trump.
00:32:09.44012.4 million names listed in the Social Security database were over 120 years of age.
00:32:17.400And Elon Musk responded to that by saying, the oldest actually living American is 114 years old.
00:32:25.700Now, we've got a couple of these cuts to be able to play for you.
00:32:31.220Trump asked for his message to Democrats saying, there's no crime in D.C.
00:33:20.600And we're going to have to do something about this cashless bail because people shoot somebody, they kill somebody and they're out on the street in less than an hour.
00:33:28.320Okay, he continued talking about that.
00:33:55.700Based on the fact that she was an Indian, she was able to get into certain colleges, get certain jobs, get into certain universities to work there.
00:36:38.460Now, you might say, okay, John Isner, in addition to being one of the greatest American tennis players of his generation, he's got the second strongest serve, you said, in the history of tennis?
00:37:53.480If I were to wear all black in Miami, that would be weird because I would melt more than I already did.
00:38:01.540I will sometimes say, when I see a friend wearing the same color top and bottom, that, hey, I guess you're, I mean, like, I will make, to be fair, like, if you came in, if we went to, I bet Carrie would make fun of you if you were doing anything other than playing tennis.
00:38:51.780Also happens to be the best American tennis player, what, the last 20 years, probably?
00:38:56.780This is the tennis equivalent, though, of if, you know, years ago, Rush Limbaugh had weighed in on some guy who had, like, started a podcast on the weekend, like his monologue.
00:39:08.560Like, that's, to have Isner and Roddick, like, weighing in on my serve is kind of like, it would be like Rush being like, hey, this is your first radio show.
00:39:16.840Like, you got some, you got some pipes, you know, you're working on it, you're, like, encouraging.
00:39:20.800But Andy Roddick said, 100 miles per hour, less certain.
00:39:24.840But he did say, the fact that he put on full ankle braces just to serve is the real issue here.
00:39:33.200So, oh, no, but I was that, okay, well, to be clear, that wasn't, that's not, I was playing, that was a lesson.
00:39:47.340I have, I have, excuse me, Mr. Roddick, I have cave ovarus feet, which means that I have a, sorry, I had to knock off my headset.
00:39:56.280This is getting worse, which means that I have a tendency to roll my ankles.
00:40:00.800This is like telling Michael Jordan when he asked why you're wearing an arm sleeve that you have, you know, hypertension in your elbow.
00:40:07.900What have I, what have my buddies used to say?
00:40:10.980I used to play, I used to play pickup basketball and his line, and I think it's an all-time line.
00:40:16.820He said, if you have any brace, you have to be twice as good as the worst player on the court.
00:40:23.980And I just think that's such an amazing line.
00:40:26.380He's like, if you show up for pickup basketball and you got like an elbow sleeve on, or you got ankle braces, or you have like a knee, a knee thing.
00:40:34.240He's like, you better be twice as good as the worst player on the court, because everybody's just going to be looking at you like, well, I just, you, Clay, you have to respond to Andy.
00:42:06.580And also, even though I'm a doubter, I know I'm actually rooting for you because so many people are rooting against you and doubting you that if you hit this serve 100 or higher, you're going to be like the Rocky of amateur tennis serves.
00:42:20.000And I think if you make it happen, you should have a gold medal celebration on air, play the Rocky music, and just live it up.
00:42:26.940Turn all of us doubters into believers.
00:42:48.560A guy who feels compelled to tell you that he's amazing at something that he should be really good at is always like, and I'm skeptical because I don't see, you know, like the greatest hedge fund manager of all time doesn't hop in Warren Buffett's mentions and be like, well, in 2008, I had a 42% return.
00:43:10.060Like, I do think it's very funny that people who are elite at something decide that they need to let you know that they're elite at something.
00:43:18.440Well, this is why I like Isner and Andy and these guys can have a sense of humor about it.
00:44:35.800I don't know how many times you could serve in a row where you start to just go down because your body's getting physically tired.
00:44:42.780Well, see, because I'm in, I mean, this is more than anyone ever thought they'd hear about tennis on the show, but for fun, everybody, this is now, we have like the biggest names in the tennis world weighing in on the Clay and Buck Show tennis feud.
00:44:54.900Um, but yeah, I, I, I'm somebody who is going to rely much more on muscle than technique.
00:45:01.000I mean, this also might surprise some of the people, but like the women on the pro tour, I can lift a lot more weight than they can.
00:45:07.120They just have a hundred times better technique and weight transfer and elasticity, uh, in their, you know, in their movement than I do.
00:45:16.520So that's why they can routinely do it a hundred.
00:45:18.380So it's not, it's a little bit like golf.
00:45:20.240It's not, uh, if you watch happy Gilmore, you think, Oh, like I can just hit a slap shot.
00:45:24.540Like I've hit golf balls a couple of times.
00:45:35.280It's a, it's a skill thing, not a muscle thing.
00:45:38.360And so this is why I really have to work on the technique more than anything else to actually get it to the level.
00:45:45.780Cause you'll see tech there are women who are five, there are women who are Laura size on the pro tour who can hit a, you know, 110 mile an hour serve, like pretty regularly.
00:45:55.560And they have like tiny little arms and they weigh 110 pounds, but they have perfect body mechanics.
00:46:10.680Uh, so, uh, I saw our boy, Ryan Gerdusky mocking you on Twitter.
00:46:16.240You get even taking some body blows here.
00:46:18.400Cause Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey were talking.
00:46:22.000And, uh, and Ryan Gerdusky said, this is like listening to Buck talk about sports with clay, uh, putting you in the Taylor Swift role there.
00:46:30.100And I actually, I thought that was, this is only, this is only fair in, in college football, which I had never seen or watched until I was partner, partnered here with clay.
00:46:37.820I know the other sports ball very well.