Bonus: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 28 2025
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Summary
On today's show, Clay and Buck are joined by Mary Margaret Olehan, who has been with us on before, at the RNC and at the DNC, to discuss the horrific attack on a Minnesota elementary school, and what we can do to stop it from happening again.
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And we have got a ton to dive into with all of you.
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Mary Margaret Olehan, who has been with us on before, I think, at the RNC,
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has done really good work looking at Minnesota law.
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As it pertains to the shooting, which we're going to get more into today.
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The next, we hope, Governor of Virginia, Winsome Sears, will be on with us in hour two.
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And we're going to have to ask him about some of the comments that he has made
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Each of those will be guests, respectively, in the next three hours.
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But we begin with all of you and the continued fallout from the awful attack yesterday
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where a trans-terrorist shooter with killed Donald Trump written on the gun.
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That was brought to bear in that attack yesterday.
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And as more details have come out, I just want to lay this out for you.
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And I would say my statement right off the top is it's time for good people,
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moms, dads, grandmas, grandpas, all of you out there that cares about kids
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and be willing to acknowledge that almost everyone who is claiming that they're trans
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And this is a perfect example, I think, of toxic empathy.
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In almost all circumstances, that's going to make things worse.
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Um, and this situation, which we just went through in Minneapolis,
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is a horrible echo of what happened in Nashville, Tennessee,
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You had in both situations a trans shooter who had attended a religious school
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Nashville, a girl who was trying to transition to being a boy,
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in the case of Minneapolis, a boy who was trying to transition to being a girl,
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minors who received treatments for their trans delusions,
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decided to go into those schools and try to murder as many young Christian kids as possible.
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In both situations, they pre-stalked their site.
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They made the decision to try to kill as many people as possible.
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Buck, as we were just sitting down to start the show,
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you shared a tweet from Caitlin Collins at CNN,
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which says that this killer had been touring the school, basically,
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to try to find out the way to kill as many people as possible.
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It is true evil, and I think the evil, frankly, is being accelerated,
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by the fact that these people are on all sorts of drugs
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trying to, in some way, alter the biological reality of their sex.
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And I think it's making, frankly, them more likely to be violent.
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And I think it's time for reasonable people to stand up against this
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pretended that he was going to go back to the church
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or that he was trying to come back into the church as a believer
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So used the connection that he had had previously
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as a cover for the operational surveillance that he did
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of a school with kids in it, a defenseless school with kids in it.
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Demons live among us, and this person was a demon.
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And there are so many, unfortunately, different factors
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that go into this, and our society is making a lot of this stuff worse,
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making a lot of what I think could be handled earlier on.
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Look, the biggest one for me is the ideology of trans people
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are able to change their gender, and if you don't believe this,
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you're a Nazi and you are committing genocide.
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And there's language like this all over the Internet right now
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It reminds me, Clay, of the first BLM series of protests after Ferguson.
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There were all these marches and rallies that were going on,
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and I went to some to cover them at the time I was working at the Blaze.
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I went to cover these rallies, and you could just go.
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You'd see at the rallies they were just talking about evil racist cops
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killing black men all the time, all the time, day in and day out.
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And I understand that most people will hear that
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and just have really bad politics, be really stupid,
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because they see mobs of people chanting the same slogan,
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and that ended with, I believe it was five officers in Texas
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who was like, look, these cops are killing unarmed black men.
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I need to step in and do something about this.
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By the way, the media is completely memory-holded that.
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You know, when the media says that if you don't want people
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to have socialized medicine, you're hoping they die from cancer.
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By the way, we don't even talk really about health care anymore.
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The Democrats have just made health care worse in every respect in this country.
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And in every metric you can look at, in terms of price, in terms of access,
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and an excuse to have you subsidize illegals and other people who are in the country.
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The guy who was shooting at Rand Paul and others
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and shot Steve Scalise at that baseball diamond
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Well, you could say, well, oh, you can't blame somebody for,
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you can't blame an ideology for one person's actions.
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Well, if the ideology is you're murdering people en masse
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because of your policy, if you take it to that extent,
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They say that Trump is, even Gavin Newsom, we can play this,
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Gavin Newsom is a shameless, soulless liar,
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a power-mad, narcissistic, vile human being.
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And he's saying that he doesn't think there's going to be an election in 2028.
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Now, for most Democrats who hear that, it's just, oh, yeah, I hate Trump,
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you hate Trump, this is a way of expressing our Trump hatred
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But for some people, they hear this and they go, hold on,
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the governor of California is saying this, Clay.
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The New York Times is going along with this kind of rhetoric, you know.
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CNN last night, they referred to this guy as a she, by the way.
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I mean, I know that you've already called him out on this.
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Cut 20 is Gavin Newsom saying that there won't be an election in 2028.
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I don't think Donald Trump wants another election.
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I have two dozen Trump 2028 hats his folks keep sending me.
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Who spends $200 million on a ballroom at their home and then leaves the house?
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No, no, this guy doesn't believe in free and fair elections.
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And people say, oh, it's just Trump being Trump.
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People actually think this guy's serious about having another election.
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He's trying to rig it in plain sight this time.
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You will lose everything you will hold dear.
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He's either a liar, which we all know he is,
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or he's so crazy that he doesn't understand that people hear this and they take him seriously.
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Almost no one even talks about assassination 2.0 at the Trump West Palm Beach golf course
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where the guy laid in wait all day with his gun and Trump was playing golf and he came within a hole.
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Nobody ever asked, how did that guy know that Trump was going to be playing golf that day?
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How did he stay in that bush line for hours only getting stopped because a woman in the parking lot happened to see him flee
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Otherwise, we may not even know who that guy is.
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What did he say was the reason why he was trying to kill Trump?
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Because he believed Democrat rhetoric that Trump was a dictator, that Trump was Hitler,
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Now, that person, I think, has major mental health issues,
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as many people who engage in acts of mass violence do,
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but the logic under which he acted presupposed that what was said was true,
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If Trump was, in fact, Hitler, then killing him would be justified, right?
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That is the process in his mind through which he went.
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he is saying Trump is a dictator and people out there who believe him,
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I'll bet you $10 million that we have an election in 2028.
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And if he bets me, I'll donate the $10 million I win to charity.
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But these lies have consequences because in the brain of broken people,
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I don't think Gavin Newsom actually believes what he's saying.
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He's saying it because he thinks he gets political advantage from it
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because the base of the left in the Democrat Party is so broken.
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But there are consequences when you tell crazy people crazy things.
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I've also said before that I think if you looked at male testosterone levels,
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you would have a very good indicator whether someone votes Republican or Democrat.
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I also think if you looked at emotional and psychological stability,
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The Republican Party is the party of psychological stability in America today.
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And if you look at self-described happiness and health
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and use of different psychiatric medications and stuff,
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I mean, the Democrats are the party of the emotionally and psychologically unstable.
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And when you have people at the very top of that party saying things,
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like what Gavin Newsom was just saying there, Clay,
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or when you have people at the very top of that party who...
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It's not in the places on the Internet where most of us never venture or go.
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You know, they love to do this thing on the right.
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They'll find some person who's just like a psycho loser that no one's ever heard of before
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who has some vaguely right-wing views or has some racist views,
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He's ignoring the reality of who Trump puts in positions of power.
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Meanwhile, the Democrats say things that if what they say explicitly is true,
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the crazy actions of some of these individuals seems in their minds entirely justified.
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The end of the republic, the genocide of trans people,
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And from the top of the party, from the most powerful voices,
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the most trusted voices among their own ideological kind,
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I would just say hold us to the same standard as Gavin Newsom.
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You and I have been here together for over four years now.
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What crazy thing have we said the equivalent of
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I don't even think we've said anything even in the same state,
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and I get very angry about some things on the show,
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You get angry less often than I do about this stuff.
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You're really passionate, but you're really angry about it,
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If you were to go and look at what do people like me
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When you're saying that people are committing genocide
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within the realm of reality, ethics, and rule of law.
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which is why this emotional blackmail is so effective.
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or decide that you're going to give them bottom surgery
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You should just drink yourself into a coma.
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should in some way be celebrated or encouraged.
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a gun into the school that he attended and
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try to kill Christians and I want to play a
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President Trump kill President Trump he is
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try to artificially create yourself if you
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no woman who used to be a man that men are
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be the first female governor right tell us
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who want virginia to succeed so my opponent
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you're a democrat running on the successes that
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win she would dismantle and destroy everything
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that we've created so she's got the problem not
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a lieutenant governor of virginia who hopes and
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should be the next governor i saw some of these uh
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some of these statements um from abigail spanberger who is the
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democrat nominee on men and women's sports and she
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dodged the question like she was neo in the matrix i mean
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she is doing everything she can do to avoid saying what is very easy for
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everybody 90 plus percent i think of actual sports fans
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even two-thirds of democrats hey men have no business in women's sports
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i saw your ad i loved it you're you're nailing her on this but isn't it about
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just how out of touch she is with virginia that she can't speak the truth on
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here are the parents wanting to raise their boys to respect women to honor
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women and then we have for example the valden county school
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because they are uncomfortable being forced to undress
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in front of a female and for that they are now labeled sexual in their school
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records sexual harassers but this is what their
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parents have been raising them to be to respect women so you have now school
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boards who are against parents and abigail spanberger supports that because
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she voted for men biological men in women's sports
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she voted for biological men having to be able to undress in locker rooms with our
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young girls she voted for all this nonsense and that's crazy because she's got three
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girls what what is that what you want for your girl children parents don't want that
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i wouldn't want that she needs to come forward and defend defend her vote she voted that way
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virginia doesn't want that and that's why i'm asking virginia for your vote this coming november so we
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can continue with common sense and not policies that tear us away from our children uh lieutenant
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governor winsome sears with us right now this story just broke on outkick and it goes directly
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into the state of virginia um and i'm betting that abigail spanberger is going to be dodging it in
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addition to roanoke women's swimmers and loudon county as you mentioned in 2022 virginia tech
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female swimmers protested leah thomas who was a man pretending to be a woman swimming for the
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university of pennsylvania women's swim team they reached out to espn begged for espn to tell the
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story of their protest espn refused to cover it uh so it's not just abigail spanberger it's also there
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have been a lot of legacy media outlets that have refused to speak truth here and now they're trying
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to run cover for your opponent um i think this is really significant i know it matters a great deal
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to our audience but how protected is the legacy media trying to keep your opponent so she doesn't
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have to answer questions about her failures on this issue oh so they started a long time ago by not even
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asking any questions of me they would just pretend i didn't exist i mean i would walk by them and they
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would not say a word uh they would have microphones in everybody else's face and it was as if i didn't
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exist i mean i have been the headliner the keynote speaker at events you know i'm a united states marine
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corps veteran and i would be at uh veterans affairs honoring veterans events and they would not even say
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that i was there even though i was the keynote speaker never even said i was in the audience
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never even put my picture in but always talked about everybody else around me so they have been
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dismissing me for some time now because they saw me coming and they knew that she would be in trouble
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abigail spanberger and they want her to win and you know here's the problem with that i i grew up partly
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in jamaica which at the time was suffering from socialist policies and the media put their finger
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on the scale for other people who eventually ended up destroying what little economy we had because
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socialism you know you can't ever do it right and put jamaica's economy in a tailspin and i can't
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believe that that's the same thing i'm seeing here but we're going to win because you know you can't hold
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righteousness down and when you're on the right side of an issue where common sense is common sense
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and where i even have now democrats who are coming up to me and saying i'm a democrat but i'm going to
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vote for you because i don't want my girl children having to undress in front of full frontal noodle
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boys i mean think about we're creating sexual trauma sexual trauma do we not have enough trauma in the world
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no it's no it's craziness lieutenant governor sears i want to ask uh if if you do become
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the governor and we're obviously uh rooting for you pushing for you and and hopeful that this is
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going to happen uh virginia is such a great state the northern part of your state some of the politics
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they're not my favorite i'm just saying the right when you get in the the edge of dc you got some
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people that well you need to reach out to them and convince them of the error of uh you know
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arlington's ways but um virginia otherwise a fantastic and wonderful state actually a family
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uh that was from virginia and still lives there i want to know what you're going to do if you become
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the governor what will you continue on from the very successful tenure of governor youngkin and what
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would be some of the things that the uh great residents of the commonwealth would be able to look
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forward to so one of the things i'm going to do unlike my opponent is i'm going to continue to keep
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virginia safe i'm going to support our law enforcement department of corrections personnel
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we're not going to get rid of their qualified immunity we're not going to defund them you know
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who will my opponent abigail spanberger because she has said and she has taken money from wait for it
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that defund the police pack you can't take she's taken thousands from them so you know it's not like
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we don't know what she's going to do so we need our police right we need everybody there because i can't
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even talk about safety and security i can't talk about jobs being created taxes being low
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if we're not safe and secure right so that's the first thing i'm going to do and you probably saw
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yesterday where she came out and said she was one of the first things first things that she was going
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to do is precisely get rid of our safety and security because she's going to stop all these ice
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detainers where we have now found 4 000 criminal illegal aliens in virginia including
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the number three top head of ms 13 and they are in various states of incarceration and deportation
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she's going to stop that i mean who is this woman where did we where did we get her from
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well she can't be governor the next thing people want is that they want their taxes back in their
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pockets and we've restored what nine billion dollars back into the pockets of virginia's taxpayers we have
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run a 10 billion dollar surplus for each of the um for the entire time that we've been in office
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and we're going to keep creating jobs we're going to keep getting rid of regulations we're going to
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have the energy that they need we're going to have shovel ready sites we're going to keep their
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inventories and their employees safe jobs will flood in and well you will see we will continue our great
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economic successes whereas my opponent is going to tax them to death she's going to put regulations
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back on them and she's going to force every single employee even if they don't want to to join a
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union that for me is an issue of liberty so people know what they're going to get with me it's all
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common sense money in your pocket jobs and safety there you go she doesn't know how to do this she was
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never there when we were creating any of this good stuff she was in congress taking stupid votes
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against us and now she's trying to backtrack but she's not even back she's like pussetani phil we
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haven't seen her in a while where have you been abigail you can't lead from behind lieutenant governor
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sears appreciate you very much and uh please come back and talk to us either right before your victory
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or right after you can choose winsome for governor.com please go to my website winsome for governor.com
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and help me yes i'll go helper guys and gals we need we need to make sure we have a good
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governor in virginia and uh and things are certainly trending in the right direction there politically
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with clay and buck find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts welcome back in
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clay travis buck sexton show uh we are rolling through the thursday edition of the program a bunch
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of comments rolling in uh let me read some of the emails uh tristan hey guys a long time listener first
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time reaching out i'm 40 years old gay male i agree 100 that i do not identify with this current lgbtq
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alphabet community i'm a gay man i don't agree at all with any of the trans issues except for that
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they should be treated like human beings but i'm not going to be holding on to their delusion 100
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percent agree another email just heard you on the radio talking about how gay men and women should
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push back not just gay men i i think buck asked a question i think it's a really good question how do
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we break sort of the national uh fever of delusion as it pertains to the trans related issues and i
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said we have to break identity politics overall so people stop thinking about this as a group issue
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and just look at it individually whether you're gay straight uh black white asian hispanic whatever
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you want to be but i said the gay community breaking away from the alphabet mafia here and saying hey this
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is not reflective of us so just to be clear uh you said it perfectly well i appreciate that uh this
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isn't our fight trans is not our fight i'm a gay man god made me that god does not make mistakes um
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okay uh lisa in florida now this may be tough lisa you say your son is trans so how old is he
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now 40 yeah but when this when this started at like 17 okay so uh this is and obviously look there
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are the vast majority of trans kids out there are not going to turn into school shooters right so
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we're not saying this is directly connected but when did your kid start to receive treatment
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a treatment um for wanting to become trans yes yeah so well the school jumped in there and started
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doing the counseling right there the college he was going to and uh it only takes they take two
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psychiatrists to get it approved and both of them said oh sure so 17 18 19 and then in the 20s we
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you know changed first name last name not we not me um and the next thing i know this is who i am
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and you have to call me this which i have to this day not and still respected you know the
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boundaries that's your life if that's what you want to do okay but at the same time it has gotten
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so radical and i got this whole smell too even from him would you rather have a good child or
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a transgender the horrible blackmail line emotional blackmail line they use against parents all across
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the country lisa do you feel like do you feel like um the college transed if you will your son is
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that your belief or i mean how much of a role do you think they played that that was if you could
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have seen the counselor that was in there with me um you know and she's trying to tell me well
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she says she says i'm like no she is not because i've seen her go from the bedroom to the bathroom
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and drop the towel so i parts are still where they are but at the same time i told your screener
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who's very compassionate i told my husband last night because it has gotten so far out of hand
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and so radical and his whole personality and i mean this is a kid that grew up in in um you know
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christian church and enjoyed it and loved it not anymore and i don't know how to describe the
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feeling but i told my husband last night i said that he was has he had the full has your son had the
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full lisa like uh the surgeries no no what about drug treatment um the hormones all those things oh
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my goodness yes we've got boobs everything yes um yes how has that changed his behavior and i i guess
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that's part one part two what would you want other parents out there who might be dealing with this to
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know from your perspective well it immediately started changing the personality and then
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actually he even admitted it and it also started changing just health issues overall but the other
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thing don't buy into that because it gets so far-fetched and so deep into it i told my husband last night
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i don't know if he would actually you've gotten so bitter and they feed into it and make it worse i don't
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know that he wouldn't go out and do something like this i can't tell you that and i it's horrible
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if this is going to sound i don't know how to say this and it's just going to sound horrible but
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i if i thought that something would happen to my son committing suicide and he would still go to
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heaven i would be better living with that than knowing that he went out and killed children or
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anybody for that matter i don't even know if that makes sense no i love my son i appreciate
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i appreciate you calling in and sharing this because i think what it goes to is the um and
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thank you so much and and certainly a lot of people are are going to pray for you lisa but
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i think what it goes to buck is the emotional blackmail that this puts families through that is rooted in a
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lie and i just i'm sorry i don't think that any of these kids are getting better right that you're not
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getting a better son or daughter than you already had and it's putting families through the ringer
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right i mean imagine if you sat down with somebody clay who was a a serious drug addict and their
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response to you was either tell me the drugs are good or i might commit suicide that's what's going
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on here there's no choice for these parents this is an iheart podcast guaranteed human