Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 28 2025

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00:00:05.220 Welcome in, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.

00:00:08.500 Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

00:00:10.840 Thursday edition of the program.

00:00:13.920 And we have got a ton to dive into with all of you.

00:00:19.160 Mary Margaret Olehan, who has been with us on before, I think, at the RNC,

00:00:24.660 has done really good work looking at Minnesota law.

00:00:30.000 As it pertains to the shooting, which we're going to get more into today.

00:00:34.500 The next, we hope, Governor of Virginia, Winsome Sears, will be on with us in hour two. 0.97

00:00:40.320 And then Trey Gowdy of Fox News.

00:00:43.000 And we're going to have to ask him about some of the comments that he has made

00:00:45.780 that went mega viral on Fox News yesterday.

00:00:48.260 He has a book out.

00:00:49.020 He was already scheduled to be on.

00:00:50.860 Each of those will be guests, respectively, in the next three hours.

00:00:55.140 But we begin with all of you and the continued fallout from the awful attack yesterday

00:01:04.760 where a trans-terrorist shooter with killed Donald Trump written on the gun.

00:01:10.600 Six million was not enough. 0.53

00:01:12.960 Anti-Semitic commentary.

00:01:15.480 Evil.

00:01:16.580 True evil.

00:01:17.280 That was brought to bear in that attack yesterday.

00:01:21.320 And as more details have come out, I just want to lay this out for you.

00:01:27.700 And I would say my statement right off the top is it's time for good people,

00:01:32.460 moms, dads, grandmas, grandpas, all of you out there that cares about kids

00:01:36.740 to really significantly stop trying to be kind

00:01:42.160 and be willing to acknowledge that almost everyone who is claiming that they're trans 0.99

00:01:47.020 has a severe mental illness. 0.99

00:01:49.740 And this is a perfect example, I think, of toxic empathy. 0.99

00:01:53.340 You're trying to be kind.

00:01:54.440 You're trying to work with a kid.

00:01:56.260 In almost all circumstances, that's going to make things worse.

00:01:59.820 Um, and this situation, which we just went through in Minneapolis,

00:02:05.900 is a horrible echo of what happened in Nashville, Tennessee,

00:02:11.220 back just less than two years ago, I believe.

00:02:15.000 And let me lay this out.

00:02:17.160 You had in both situations a trans shooter who had attended a religious school

00:02:23.600 decide that in the case of Nashville,

00:02:27.380 Nashville, a girl who was trying to transition to being a boy,

00:02:31.740 in the case of Minneapolis, a boy who was trying to transition to being a girl,

00:02:35.360 minors who received treatments for their trans delusions, 0.90

00:02:40.720 decided to go into those schools and try to murder as many young Christian kids as possible. 0.99

00:02:48.080 In both situations, they pre-stalked their site. 0.99

00:02:53.300 They made the decision to try to kill as many people as possible.

00:02:57.720 Buck, as we were just sitting down to start the show,

00:03:00.720 you shared a tweet from Caitlin Collins at CNN,

00:03:05.280 which says that this killer had been touring the school, basically,

00:03:12.120 to try to find out the way to kill as many people as possible.

00:03:15.560 It is true evil, and I think the evil, frankly, is being accelerated,

00:03:20.660 is being exacerbated, is being made worse

00:03:23.380 by the fact that these people are on all sorts of drugs

00:03:27.660 trying to, in some way, alter the biological reality of their sex.

00:03:32.780 And I think it's making, frankly, them more likely to be violent.

00:03:36.640 And I think it's time for reasonable people to stand up against this

00:03:39.960 and say, we have to stop this.

00:03:41.260 Because the mass murderer of children here

00:03:46.340 pretended that he was going to go back to the church

00:03:51.200 or that he was trying to come back into the church as a believer

00:03:54.180 and had a previous affiliation with it.

00:03:57.420 So used the connection that he had had previously

00:04:02.940 as a cover for the operational surveillance that he did

00:04:08.840 of a school with kids in it, a defenseless school with kids in it. 0.95

00:04:12.840 Demons live among us, and this person was a demon.

00:04:15.740 And there are so many, unfortunately, different factors

00:04:20.700 that go into this, and our society is making a lot of this stuff worse,

00:04:27.580 making a lot of what I think could be handled earlier on.

00:04:31.420 Look, the biggest one for me is the ideology of trans people

00:04:36.860 are able to change their gender, and if you don't believe this, 0.94

00:04:41.540 you're a Nazi and you are committing genocide. 0.71

00:04:44.960 And there's language like this all over the Internet right now 0.98

00:04:47.200 in response to what happened yesterday.

00:04:48.820 That is completely insane.

00:04:51.040 It is absolutely reckless.

00:04:52.380 It reminds me, Clay, of the first BLM series of protests after Ferguson.

00:04:57.980 There were all these marches and rallies that were going on,

00:05:02.960 and I went to some to cover them at the time I was working at the Blaze.

00:05:07.060 I went to cover these rallies, and you could just go.

00:05:09.500 You'd see at the rallies they were just talking about evil racist cops 0.98

00:05:13.240 killing black men all the time, all the time, day in and day out. 0.99

00:05:17.480 And it's a lie. 1.00

00:05:18.720 It's horrible. 0.97

00:05:19.660 It's disgraceful.

00:05:20.940 And I understand that most people will hear that 1.00

00:05:23.780 and just have really bad politics, be really stupid, 1.00

00:05:26.560 and vote Democrat. 1.00

00:05:28.220 But some people do more than that

00:05:30.020 because they see mobs of people chanting the same slogan,

00:05:32.720 and that ended with, I believe it was five officers in Texas

00:05:37.960 all being gunned down by that BLM maniac 1.00

00:05:40.640 who was like, look, these cops are killing unarmed black men. 1.00

00:05:43.420 I need to step in and do something about this. 0.96

00:05:45.200 And he murdered police officers in cold blood.

00:05:47.080 I think it was five of them.

00:05:48.480 Horrific.

00:05:48.880 By the way, the media is completely memory-holded that.

00:05:51.740 You know, when the media says that if you don't want people

00:05:54.420 to have socialized medicine, you're hoping they die from cancer.

00:05:58.760 By the way, we don't even talk really about health care anymore.

00:06:01.200 The Democrats have just made health care worse in every respect in this country.

00:06:05.260 Obamacare is an absolute failure.

00:06:07.780 And in every metric you can look at, in terms of price, in terms of access,

00:06:12.000 all it gives you is coverage you don't use

00:06:15.560 and an excuse to have you subsidize illegals and other people who are in the country.

00:06:19.880 So, put that aside for a second.

00:06:23.240 The guy who was shooting at Rand Paul and others

00:06:26.800 and shot Steve Scalise at that baseball diamond

00:06:28.700 was saying this is for health care.

00:06:30.760 Well, you could say, well, oh, you can't blame somebody for,

00:06:33.720 you can't blame an ideology for one person's actions.

00:06:37.620 Well, if the ideology is you're murdering people en masse

00:06:40.520 because of your policy, if you take it to that extent,

00:06:44.580 and this is what brings me then to Trump.

00:06:46.740 They say that Trump is, even Gavin Newsom, we can play this, 1.00

00:06:49.280 Gavin Newsom is a shameless, soulless liar, 1.00

00:06:54.820 a power-mad, narcissistic, vile human being. 1.00

00:06:59.500 And he's saying that he doesn't think there's going to be an election in 2028. 0.99

00:07:02.720 Now, for most Democrats who hear that, it's just, oh, yeah, I hate Trump,

00:07:07.440 you hate Trump, this is a way of expressing our Trump hatred

00:07:10.000 because he's going to seize power forever.

00:07:12.580 But for some people, they hear this and they go, hold on,

00:07:15.840 the governor of California is saying this, Clay.

00:07:17.600 The New York Times is going along with this kind of rhetoric, you know.

00:07:21.820 CNN is going along.

00:07:23.580 CNN last night, they referred to this guy as a she, by the way.

00:07:26.660 Yeah, we need to play that audio.

00:07:28.440 Well, we'll get to that.

00:07:29.620 Look, here's Newsom.

00:07:31.280 I mean, I know that you've already called him out on this.

00:07:33.420 Cut 20 is Gavin Newsom saying that there won't be an election in 2028.

00:07:37.460 Play it.

00:07:37.720 I don't think Donald Trump wants another election.

00:07:40.580 You think for a second you want?

00:07:42.180 I have two dozen Trump 2028 hats his folks keep sending me.

00:07:47.400 Who spends $200 million on a ballroom at their home and then leaves the house?

00:07:52.780 This is serious, guys.

00:07:53.980 This is serious.

00:07:54.820 So it'll be Newsom Trump in 2028?

00:07:56.420 No, no, this guy doesn't believe in free and fair elections.

00:08:00.460 He tried to wreck this country.

00:08:02.700 Were you there January 6th?

00:08:06.260 I mean, he tried to light democracy on fire.

00:08:09.100 He dialed for 11, almost 12,000 votes.

00:08:11.500 Now he's doing it in plain sight.

00:08:12.760 And people say, oh, it's just Trump being Trump.

00:08:15.420 People actually think this guy's serious about having another election.

00:08:19.120 You think he's joking about 2028?

00:08:21.420 Wake up.

00:08:22.640 You will lose your country.

00:08:23.960 Again, it's not about Democrats.

00:08:26.280 It's about all of us.

00:08:27.500 You're absolutely convinced.

00:08:28.900 I'm absolutely convinced.

00:08:30.460 2028.

00:08:31.040 You've seen it.

00:08:32.400 He's tried to steal the last election.

00:08:34.400 He's trying to rig it in plain sight this time.

00:08:38.360 You will lose your country, Clay.

00:08:40.700 He's a dictator in the making.

00:08:42.960 You will lose everything you will hold dear. 0.99

00:08:45.280 He's either a liar, which we all know he is, 0.99

00:08:47.580 or he's so crazy that he doesn't understand that people hear this and they take him seriously. 1.00

00:08:52.320 The second would be Trump assassin. 0.93

00:08:57.700 Almost no one even talks about assassination 2.0 at the Trump West Palm Beach golf course

00:09:03.920 where the guy laid in wait all day with his gun and Trump was playing golf and he came within a hole.

00:09:10.360 Nobody ever asked, how did that guy know that Trump was going to be playing golf that day?

00:09:14.300 How did he stay in that bush line for hours only getting stopped because a woman in the parking lot happened to see him flee

00:09:24.660 and write down his license plate number?

00:09:27.100 Otherwise, we may not even know who that guy is.

00:09:29.620 What did he say was the reason why he was trying to kill Trump? 0.88

00:09:33.320 Because he believed Democrat rhetoric that Trump was a dictator, that Trump was Hitler, 0.99

00:09:39.440 and he felt like he needed to kill him. 1.00

00:09:41.340 Now, that person, I think, has major mental health issues, 0.88

00:09:45.200 as many people who engage in acts of mass violence do,

00:09:49.780 but the logic under which he acted presupposed that what was said was true,

00:09:56.040 that Trump was Hitler. 0.99

00:09:57.060 If Trump was, in fact, Hitler, then killing him would be justified, right? 0.99

00:10:02.880 That is the process in his mind through which he went. 0.65

00:10:05.960 When Gavin Newsom is telling you this,

00:10:08.680 he is saying Trump is a dictator and people out there who believe him,

00:10:13.340 and I just tweeted, hey, Gavin Newsom,

00:10:15.600 I'll bet you $10 million that we have an election in 2028.

00:10:19.540 Put your money where your mouth is.

00:10:21.240 And if he bets me, I'll donate the $10 million I win to charity.

00:10:24.500 But these lies have consequences because in the brain of broken people,

00:10:31.640 they accept them as truth.

00:10:33.440 I don't think Gavin Newsom actually believes what he's saying.

00:10:35.840 He's saying it because he thinks he gets political advantage from it

00:10:38.340 because the base of the left in the Democrat Party is so broken.

00:10:42.040 But there are consequences when you tell crazy people crazy things. 0.99

00:10:45.980 Well, there are a lot of crazy Democrats. 0.52

00:10:47.580 I've also said before that I think if you looked at male testosterone levels, 0.98

00:10:51.240 you would have a very good indicator whether someone votes Republican or Democrat.

00:10:54.500 I also think if you looked at emotional and psychological stability,

00:10:58.140 you'd have a very good...

00:10:59.280 The Republican Party is the party of psychological stability in America today.

00:11:02.760 Just a fact.

00:11:03.920 And if you look at self-described happiness and health

00:11:06.920 and use of different psychiatric medications and stuff,

00:11:13.000 the Democrats have a lock on all that stuff.

00:11:14.840 I mean, the Democrats are the party of the emotionally and psychologically unstable.

00:11:18.140 And when you have people at the very top of that party saying things,

00:11:22.560 like what Gavin Newsom was just saying there, Clay,

00:11:24.860 or when you have people at the very top of that party who...

00:11:27.560 So this is the thing.

00:11:28.140 It's not in the crevices of the dark web.

00:11:32.120 It's not in the places on the Internet where most of us never venture or go.

00:11:37.580 This is from the top.

00:11:39.300 This is the difference.

00:11:40.460 You know, they love to do this thing on the right. 0.97

00:11:42.060 They'll find some person who's just like a psycho loser that no one's ever heard of before 0.96

00:11:46.780 who has some vaguely right-wing views or has some racist views, 0.98

00:11:50.740 and it's immediately Donald Trump's fault.

00:11:53.040 And you'll say, well, hold on a second.

00:11:54.460 What does this actually have to do with Trump?

00:11:56.080 He's ignoring what Trump actually says.

00:11:57.700 He's ignoring the reality of who Trump puts in positions of power.

00:12:00.120 I mean, you have this whole...

00:12:01.060 Meanwhile, the Democrats say things that if what they say explicitly is true,

00:12:06.220 the crazy actions of some of these individuals seems in their minds entirely justified.

00:12:13.080 The end of the republic, the genocide of trans people, 0.97

00:12:16.480 this is widespread rhetoric that they use.

00:12:20.540 And from the top of the party, from the most powerful voices,

00:12:23.880 the most trusted voices among their own ideological kind,

00:12:27.900 and then really bad things happen.

00:12:29.360 This is supposed to be a surprise.

00:12:31.360 It's going to keep happening.

00:12:32.960 I would just say hold us to the same standard as Gavin Newsom.

00:12:36.220 You and I have been here together for over four years now.

00:12:40.280 What crazy thing have we said the equivalent of

00:12:43.460 there's not going to be an election in 2028?

00:12:46.960 I mean, we've gotten things wrong.

00:12:49.160 We're not perfect.

00:12:50.380 But we haven't...

00:12:51.300 I don't even think we've said anything even in the same state,

00:12:57.440 in the same country,

00:12:58.940 as there's not going to be an election in 2028

00:13:01.720 because Trump is going to be a dictator.

00:13:03.560 You and I are very explicit.

00:13:04.840 When we're angry about things,

00:13:06.400 and I get very angry about some things on the show,

00:13:08.600 sometimes you do too.

00:13:09.520 I think you get less...

00:13:10.640 You get angry less often than I do about this stuff.

00:13:13.680 But, you know, this is just...

00:13:14.840 You have a sunny disposition.

00:13:17.380 But when we're really...

00:13:18.420 When something is...

00:13:19.180 You're really passionate, but you're really angry about it,

00:13:20.980 I'll say things like, for example,

00:13:22.520 somebody took a shot at the CDC recently. 1.00

00:13:26.800 This person's an absolute moron 1.00

00:13:27.840 who should be imprisoned 1.00

00:13:29.620 to the fullest extent of the law,

00:13:32.300 and that is something that he has done.

00:13:34.840 If you were to go and look at what do people like me

00:13:36.860 and you and others say about the CDC,

00:13:38.180 we're saying they need to replace

00:13:40.020 some of the senior leadership there

00:13:41.800 with people who are more science-based.

00:13:45.260 I'm not saying that the CDC

00:13:46.940 are about to round us up in camps

00:13:49.340 and experiment on us like animals 1.00

00:13:51.220 and, like, kill us all. 0.98

00:13:52.420 Like, I'm not saying crazy stuff. 0.99

00:13:53.820 You're not saying crazy stuff.

00:13:55.620 We're saying working within the system,

00:13:57.720 the rule of law, and morality, and ethics,

00:14:00.460 how do we address these problems?

00:14:02.420 But that's not what...

00:14:03.160 When you're saying that people are committing genocide

00:14:05.400 because they have to pretend 1.00

00:14:06.900 that a guy with a penis is a woman, 1.00

00:14:09.460 you're actually not working 0.99

00:14:10.860 within the realm of reality, ethics, and rule of law.

00:14:13.680 And the Democrats do this

00:14:15.020 on a whole range of issues, over and over.

00:14:17.540 They are manufacturing delusions.

00:14:20.220 And emotionally creating empathy,

00:14:24.380 which actually is toxic for many of the people

00:14:26.620 the empathy is being created for.

00:14:29.280 I spent...

00:14:30.480 Again, I just think it's time

00:14:33.220 for parents out there to recognize

00:14:35.700 that what you are being told

00:14:38.160 you need to do for the betterment of your kid,

00:14:40.740 which is why this emotional blackmail is so effective. 0.96

00:14:43.600 Your kid's going to kill themselves 0.98

00:14:45.000 unless you listen to us 1.00

00:14:47.040 and chop their boobs off 1.00

00:14:49.260 or decide that you're going to give them bottom surgery 1.00

00:14:52.280 or whatever the heck it is.

00:14:53.640 It's emotional blackmail on parents

00:14:55.540 and it makes me sick, honestly.

00:14:56.860 I know we have to go to break, Clay.

00:14:57.860 I just want to say this.

00:14:58.420 We had Dave Rutherford on yesterday

00:15:00.100 and he's an incredible guy.

00:15:02.000 He's a dear friend of mine.

00:15:03.600 And he's a true...

00:15:04.320 I mean, he was in this...

00:15:05.900 When you think of combat,

00:15:07.620 Rutherford saw combat.

00:15:09.600 And he was a medic

00:15:10.740 and he had to deal with all this stuff.

00:15:12.780 Imagine if veterans came back 1.00

00:15:14.780 and they had severe PTSD

00:15:16.300 and we said,

00:15:17.880 no, no, no, no, no.

00:15:19.200 You know,

00:15:19.720 you should just drink yourself into a... 0.57

00:15:21.300 You should just drink yourself into a coma. 0.99

00:15:23.120 You should blame yourself for everything. 0.96

00:15:24.900 You shouldn't seek help at all.

00:15:26.840 The psychological trauma

00:15:28.520 that you're suffering from,

00:15:29.720 this is actually something that, you know,

00:15:31.720 should in some way be celebrated or encouraged.

00:15:33.980 That would...

00:15:34.300 It's completely insane.

00:15:35.460 It's destructive.

00:15:36.080 It would be like telling somebody,

00:15:36.920 hey, you have pneumonia.

00:15:38.420 You know, just roll with it.

00:15:39.540 Don't take antibiotics.

00:15:41.080 Getting people help

00:15:42.240 when they need help

00:15:43.320 is the honorable, ethical thing to do.

00:15:47.620 Amen.

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00:15:55.480 armed with new missiles from a source,

00:15:57.700 wants to wipe Israel off the map. 0.98

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00:17:36.940 Play Travis Buck Sexton show.

00:17:39.700 I want to give credit

00:17:42.000 right now to Mary Margaret Olihan,

00:17:44.800 who also wrote a book,

00:17:46.020 by the way,

00:17:47.480 D-Trans. 1.00

00:17:48.280 I believe we had her on the show

00:17:50.460 to partly talk about this

00:17:52.360 true stories of escaping

00:17:53.620 the gender ideology cult.

00:17:56.100 And she has a story up right now,

00:17:58.520 which I was reading last night,

00:17:59.720 shared it on Twitter.

00:18:01.020 I'm sure we'll link it

00:18:01.860 at Clay and Buck as well.

00:18:03.860 Minnesota Catholic school leader

00:18:05.760 warned Tim Walls

00:18:07.320 of critical school safety threats

00:18:09.820 in the wake of the Nashville

00:18:11.820 school shooting.

00:18:13.320 He did nothing.

00:18:15.380 Mary Margaret,

00:18:16.160 appreciate you coming on with us.

00:18:17.580 Obviously,

00:18:17.940 we've been talking a great deal

00:18:19.200 about what happened

00:18:19.800 in Minneapolis.

00:18:20.340 And now,

00:18:21.480 the tragic connection

00:18:22.700 to what happened

00:18:23.660 in the Covenant school shooting

00:18:24.920 in Nashville.

00:18:26.320 What does your reporting

00:18:27.600 tell you about

00:18:28.900 what Governor Tim Walls did

00:18:30.660 in the wake

00:18:31.300 of the Nashville shooting?

00:18:33.440 Hey, guys.

00:18:34.200 It's great to be here.

00:18:35.160 I'm actually outside

00:18:35.880 the White House right now

00:18:36.780 before I go in

00:18:37.660 for the press briefing

00:18:39.040 in a few minutes.

00:18:40.320 But, you know,

00:18:41.420 I wanted to talk about

00:18:42.360 this report we did

00:18:43.320 because we found

00:18:44.520 that these leaders

00:18:45.600 of Catholic

00:18:46.460 and independent schools

00:18:47.720 out in Minnesota,

00:18:48.920 they sent a letter

00:18:50.340 to Tim Walls

00:18:51.240 one week

00:18:52.020 after the Covenant

00:18:53.040 Christian school shooting

00:18:54.280 where a trans-identifying 0.94

00:18:56.060 shooter killed kids

00:18:57.260 at Covenant Christian school

00:18:58.600 in Nashville.

00:18:59.640 One week after that,

00:19:01.000 they sent a letter

00:19:01.660 to Tim Walls

00:19:02.620 saying,

00:19:03.560 look,

00:19:03.840 we have a very serious

00:19:05.340 security concern here.

00:19:07.200 We have seen

00:19:07.680 a number of shootings

00:19:08.780 targeting kids, 0.82

00:19:10.020 especially kids of faith,

00:19:11.280 and we need to up

00:19:12.140 our security

00:19:12.800 for non-public schools.

00:19:14.840 So private,

00:19:16.280 Catholic,

00:19:17.120 Christian,

00:19:17.740 Muslim,

00:19:18.300 Jewish,

00:19:18.700 you name it.

00:19:19.560 And they expressed

00:19:20.280 these concerns

00:19:21.140 to Tim Walls

00:19:22.080 and asked for his help.

00:19:23.380 They had meetings

00:19:24.240 with him.

00:19:24.740 They talked about it.

00:19:25.620 He supposedly expressed

00:19:27.760 a desire

00:19:28.640 to protect

00:19:29.700 these types of kids too,

00:19:31.520 but ultimately

00:19:32.360 nothing was done.

00:19:33.540 And I confirmed that

00:19:34.380 when I talked to

00:19:35.360 some of these leaders

00:19:36.120 yesterday,

00:19:36.860 the ones that sent

00:19:37.500 the letter.

00:19:38.380 They told me that

00:19:39.140 ultimately nothing was done.

00:19:41.220 And now yesterday

00:19:42.080 we see that another

00:19:43.680 trans-identifying shooter

00:19:44.960 targeted kids

00:19:46.000 at a Catholic school

00:19:47.300 because they were Catholic.

00:19:49.280 And so here we are again

00:19:50.500 and, you know,

00:19:51.620 this is something

00:19:52.180 that I'm definitely

00:19:52.800 interested in asking about

00:19:54.040 in the briefing shortly

00:19:55.060 because we have

00:19:56.060 multiple shootings

00:19:57.620 involving a trans-identifying

00:19:59.200 shooter targeting

00:20:00.360 Christian kids. 0.53

00:20:02.200 We have

00:20:02.720 Tim Walls,

00:20:04.160 the governor of Minnesota,

00:20:05.500 being asked to help

00:20:06.560 protect kids

00:20:07.600 in schools

00:20:08.360 exactly like this

00:20:09.360 and nothing was done.

00:20:10.900 Was there any reason

00:20:12.260 Mary Margaret offered?

00:20:13.900 So you've laid out for us

00:20:15.180 that there was this ask,

00:20:16.360 there was this exchange.

00:20:18.340 Obviously,

00:20:19.220 we know why

00:20:20.460 the leaders

00:20:21.300 of these Catholic schools

00:20:22.660 would want this.

00:20:23.640 You know,

00:20:23.780 I'm down here

00:20:24.500 in South Florida,

00:20:25.320 for example,

00:20:25.840 and the security

00:20:27.720 of synagogues 1.00

00:20:28.780 and Jewish sites

00:20:29.700 of interest here

00:20:30.380 is,

00:20:31.200 the whole community

00:20:32.200 knows that they have

00:20:33.640 to take that

00:20:34.500 incredibly seriously

00:20:35.740 and that is taken

00:20:37.680 seriously by the

00:20:38.440 authorities as well.

00:20:39.800 Why wouldn't

00:20:40.480 they get the help?

00:20:41.380 Was there any,

00:20:41.920 was it just a budgetary issue?

00:20:43.760 Tim Walls

00:20:44.720 fell asleep on the job here?

00:20:46.540 What happened?

00:20:47.740 Well,

00:20:48.220 that is a great question

00:20:49.700 and I actually asked

00:20:50.800 Tim Walls' team

00:20:51.700 myself this yesterday

00:20:52.820 because it seems

00:20:54.240 kind of like a no-brainer.

00:20:55.640 After a shooter

00:20:57.340 targets Christian students,

00:20:58.740 you want to make sure

00:20:59.560 that the Christian students

00:21:00.620 in your state

00:21:01.400 are protected.

00:21:02.920 And when I asked

00:21:04.240 Tim Walls' team,

00:21:05.320 what steps did you guys

00:21:06.400 take to protect kids?

00:21:08.200 They gave me

00:21:08.860 an evasive answer

00:21:09.780 and didn't even

00:21:10.540 address that actual question.

00:21:13.160 They tried to pretend

00:21:14.220 that they were hung up

00:21:15.180 on questions of funding

00:21:16.440 and said that they do

00:21:18.040 fund private schools

00:21:19.220 when in fact I had asked

00:21:20.560 did you guys fund

00:21:22.020 these safety measures

00:21:23.220 for private schools?

00:21:24.980 So this is an evasive

00:21:26.400 technique on the part

00:21:27.560 of Tim Walls' team

00:21:28.780 and what I can tell you

00:21:30.380 and this is even crazier

00:21:32.580 is in the same year

00:21:34.320 that Tim Walls

00:21:35.160 was being asked

00:21:36.060 to protect these

00:21:37.880 Catholic and Christian schools

00:21:39.240 and he didn't do it,

00:21:40.600 he did provide

00:21:42.000 more protections

00:21:42.800 for trans-identifying

00:21:44.000 people in the state

00:21:45.020 and he signed legislation

00:21:46.740 establishing Minnesota

00:21:47.820 as a quote

00:21:48.560 trans refuge

00:21:49.740 and promised to protect

00:21:51.100 those seeking

00:21:51.880 gender-affirming care

00:21:53.000 which we know

00:21:53.980 is actually just

00:21:54.960 a euphemism

00:21:55.760 for transgender surgery

00:21:56.940 hormones

00:21:57.520 and puberty blockers.

00:21:59.200 So while he wasn't helping

00:22:00.720 he was actually

00:22:01.840 pushing this trans agenda 0.99

00:22:03.480 which we now know

00:22:04.800 has hurt so many

00:22:05.940 young people.

00:22:06.700 We talked about this

00:22:07.440 when I came out

00:22:08.300 and talked about

00:22:08.780 my book last summer.

00:22:09.760 It's hurting so many

00:22:10.800 young people.

00:22:11.560 It's pushing them

00:22:12.140 down this path

00:22:13.000 that's an ideological one.

00:22:15.020 And we even have

00:22:16.380 like Trump's FTC

00:22:17.500 investigating these

00:22:18.820 doctors and therapists

00:22:19.960 who are pushing this

00:22:20.820 on kids

00:22:21.340 because it's all a lie.

00:22:23.120 So this is just

00:22:24.040 a massive scandal

00:22:25.100 of like massive

00:22:26.760 massive levels

00:22:27.720 and you know

00:22:28.560 we're seeing more

00:22:29.240 and more Democrats

00:22:30.080 shying away from the issue

00:22:31.460 as they realize

00:22:32.360 that it's being unmasked.

00:22:34.200 But in this case

00:22:34.900 Tim Walls was a huge

00:22:36.200 proponent of this ideology

00:22:37.980 and I think you should

00:22:38.700 have to answer for that.

00:22:39.760 I was talking about this

00:22:40.960 with Buck off air

00:22:41.780 Mary Margaret.

00:22:42.700 Yesterday we went hard

00:22:44.220 frankly at the idea

00:22:46.720 that we're giving

00:22:47.500 all these kids

00:22:48.540 these drugs

00:22:49.360 and now we've had

00:22:50.560 the shooting in Nashville

00:22:51.480 we've had the shooting

00:22:52.240 in Minneapolis.

00:22:53.740 All of the evidence

00:22:54.880 continues to come out

00:22:55.980 that this is very much

00:22:57.380 toxic empathy

00:22:58.460 that parents are being

00:22:59.440 taken advantage of.

00:23:01.060 I saw very little pushback.

00:23:02.480 Now we'll play

00:23:03.080 some of the cuts

00:23:04.180 of people trying

00:23:05.220 to make that argument

00:23:05.980 but I'm talking about

00:23:06.700 on social media.

00:23:08.020 You wrote this book

00:23:09.160 about it.

00:23:10.340 I'm sure you got

00:23:11.020 attacked then

00:23:11.840 but it feels like

00:23:13.140 reasonable moms and dads

00:23:14.800 grandmas and grandpas

00:23:16.160 are starting to have

00:23:17.900 their minds opened up here

00:23:20.220 that they've been

00:23:21.040 taken advantage of

00:23:22.260 in terms of trying

00:23:23.860 to treat this

00:23:24.960 as if it is

00:23:25.640 a real medical condition.

00:23:27.400 What would you tell

00:23:28.520 moms and dads

00:23:29.340 out there listening

00:23:30.120 all over the country

00:23:31.080 to us right now

00:23:32.200 if their 12 year old

00:23:34.400 or their 13 year old

00:23:35.620 comes to them

00:23:36.300 and says

00:23:36.720 hey I'm a different sex

00:23:38.620 what does the data show

00:23:40.820 and what is

00:23:42.520 the appropriate

00:23:43.520 in your mind

00:23:44.380 way to handle this

00:23:45.340 if you're a parent?

00:23:46.000 I know it's a big

00:23:46.600 and a difficult question

00:23:47.560 but I think

00:23:48.040 a lot of parents

00:23:49.000 are thinking about it

00:23:49.740 in the wake

00:23:50.100 of this shooting

00:23:50.640 and as we've

00:23:51.500 continued to see

00:23:52.400 so many more people

00:23:53.600 coming out

00:23:54.140 and trying to detrans

00:23:55.420 after having

00:23:56.320 these surgeries.

00:23:58.120 Yeah it absolutely is

00:23:59.320 probably one of

00:24:00.280 the scariest questions

00:24:01.520 that a parent can face

00:24:02.760 in this day and age

00:24:03.760 not only because

00:24:05.120 of the magnanimity

00:24:06.320 of what we're dealing

00:24:07.120 with coming up

00:24:07.760 against the gender ideology

00:24:08.980 you know cults

00:24:10.760 the institution

00:24:11.520 this massive group

00:24:13.620 of people

00:24:14.040 that are pushing this

00:24:14.800 but also because

00:24:16.140 a lot of these parents

00:24:17.360 if they take their kids

00:24:18.420 to the doctor

00:24:19.000 are going to be told

00:24:19.980 that their kid

00:24:20.880 is transgender

00:24:22.080 they'll be asked

00:24:23.000 would you rather 0.85

00:24:23.860 have a dead daughter

00:24:24.720 or a living son

00:24:25.720 or vice versa

00:24:26.780 and this is a question

00:24:28.560 posed to parents

00:24:29.540 pretty much across the board

00:24:30.900 every detransitioner 1.00

00:24:31.960 that I've spoke with

00:24:32.820 has told me

00:24:33.540 their parents

00:24:34.040 were given this ultimatum

00:24:35.340 we don't know this

00:24:36.880 for sure yet

00:24:37.520 but it's possible

00:24:38.300 that this trans-identifying

00:24:40.360 shooter that killed kids

00:24:41.460 at Annunciation Church

00:24:42.800 yesterday

00:24:43.180 it's possible

00:24:43.760 that his mother

00:24:44.460 faced the same question

00:24:46.140 and conundrum

00:24:47.140 and they don't know

00:24:48.480 what to do about it

00:24:49.160 and so my advice

00:24:50.080 would be

00:24:50.600 do your research

00:24:52.560 when your child

00:24:53.200 comes to you

00:24:54.020 and says

00:24:54.580 hey mom

00:24:55.500 if your little girl

00:24:56.200 comes to you

00:24:56.560 and says hey mom

00:24:57.060 I'm a boy

00:24:57.560 don't fall prey

00:24:59.060 to the anxieties

00:24:59.860 don't trust

00:25:00.580 the medical institution

00:25:01.500 do some basic research

00:25:03.580 and realize

00:25:04.040 you're not alone

00:25:04.820 there's many

00:25:05.500 many other kids

00:25:06.340 that have come up

00:25:07.560 against this ideology

00:25:08.800 due to social media

00:25:10.040 activist teachers

00:25:11.420 activist therapists

00:25:12.340 and doctors

00:25:13.080 find community

00:25:14.600 get your kid

00:25:16.140 out of the school

00:25:17.020 that your child

00:25:18.240 is at

00:25:18.540 because odds are

00:25:19.520 it's the school

00:25:20.480 and the teachers

00:25:21.040 that are pushing

00:25:21.620 this on them

00:25:22.200 take their phone

00:25:23.500 away from them

00:25:24.640 that is the biggest

00:25:26.040 biggest danger

00:25:27.280 that kids these days

00:25:28.180 are facing

00:25:28.740 take their phone

00:25:29.820 away from them

00:25:30.400 no laptops upstairs

00:25:31.780 these are some

00:25:32.820 of the biggest dangers

00:25:33.780 that our kids

00:25:34.400 are facing these days

00:25:35.460 and a lot of parents

00:25:36.320 think that it's just mean

00:25:37.540 or you know

00:25:38.300 makes their child 1.00

00:25:38.960 feel stupid 1.00

00:25:39.600 to not have 0.99

00:25:40.340 that technology

00:25:41.160 your child

00:25:42.360 will benefit

00:25:42.960 enormously

00:25:43.780 from not having

00:25:44.680 access to

00:25:45.300 transgender ideology

00:25:46.240 online

00:25:46.800 I promise you

00:25:47.720 so there's so many

00:25:48.840 steps that can be taken

00:25:49.720 there's so many

00:25:50.240 organizations

00:25:50.820 that can help

00:25:51.620 Parents Defending Education

00:25:53.440 it's one organization

00:25:54.460 that is really

00:25:55.140 vociferous on this issue

00:25:56.780 do no harm

00:25:57.960 they're really great

00:25:58.860 they partner with

00:25:59.520 tons of detransitioners 1.00

00:26:00.860 and then the detransitioners 1.00

00:26:02.020 themselves

00:26:02.520 Chloe Cole

00:26:03.660 Prisha Mosley

00:26:04.660 all of these young women

00:26:06.340 will speak out

00:26:07.340 against the dangers

00:26:08.180 of this ideology

00:26:09.780 and frankly

00:26:10.440 their stories

00:26:11.160 are the reason

00:26:11.560 I wrote my book

00:26:12.260 because their stories

00:26:13.580 are more powerful

00:26:14.420 than pretty much

00:26:15.380 any argument

00:26:16.040 that you or I

00:26:16.720 could present

00:26:17.300 because they lived it

00:26:18.320 they know how dangerous

00:26:19.440 and horrible it is

00:26:20.440 they suffered through it

00:26:21.680 and now they live

00:26:22.520 to tell the tale

00:26:23.280 thank God

00:26:23.840 so I consider

00:26:25.180 their stories

00:26:25.740 to be some of

00:26:26.240 the most powerful

00:26:26.900 and I would definitely

00:26:28.160 refer parents

00:26:29.600 and anyone

00:26:30.240 any young person

00:26:31.660 that's questioning

00:26:32.760 their gender

00:26:33.540 to go and listen

00:26:35.220 to these stories

00:26:35.840 and understand

00:26:36.420 the gravity

00:26:37.220 of what they're

00:26:37.780 talking about

00:26:38.520 talking to Mary Margaret

00:26:40.160 Olihan

00:26:40.640 Daily Wires

00:26:41.360 White House correspondent

00:26:42.440 and Mary Margaret

00:26:43.300 in your research

00:26:44.440 on this issue

00:26:45.500 as we just mentioned

00:26:46.780 you've written a book

00:26:47.540 on this

00:26:47.960 and you've been

00:26:48.600 following this

00:26:49.120 very closely

00:26:49.680 we had a caller

00:26:50.900 yesterday

00:26:51.400 who raised

00:26:52.700 a very good point

00:26:54.960 Clay and I

00:26:55.320 have talked about it

00:26:55.980 before

00:26:56.400 but the caller

00:26:57.000 gave us

00:26:57.460 an important

00:26:58.900 reminder of it

00:26:59.660 what is the

00:27:01.160 when I'm sure

00:27:02.440 you've come up

00:27:02.960 against this

00:27:03.460 and if you look

00:27:04.020 at these clinics

00:27:04.520 and the doctors

00:27:05.120 that are doing

00:27:05.440 these things

00:27:05.880 if the plumbing

00:27:07.740 does not determine

00:27:08.980 the gender

00:27:09.700 so to speak

00:27:10.800 what is the

00:27:12.280 justification

00:27:12.860 for these surgeries

00:27:14.340 that imperfectly

00:27:16.620 to put it mildly

00:27:17.780 change the plumbing

00:27:20.060 like what is the

00:27:21.500 rationale behind that

00:27:22.500 right because

00:27:22.880 they'll say

00:27:23.520 it doesn't matter

00:27:24.400 what the parts are

00:27:26.000 it's what you feel

00:27:27.060 that's gender 0.98

00:27:27.840 but then why

00:27:28.860 do we have

00:27:29.420 this whole process

00:27:30.380 of putting

00:27:32.220 pharmaceuticals

00:27:33.320 and puberty

00:27:34.000 blockers

00:27:34.620 and all these

00:27:35.060 things

00:27:35.380 and then even

00:27:36.100 surgery

00:27:36.680 to change

00:27:37.900 the plumbing

00:27:38.820 so to speak

00:27:39.540 if it doesn't

00:27:40.280 make a difference

00:27:40.980 to gender

00:27:41.460 well you would

00:27:43.660 have to ask

00:27:44.160 some of these

00:27:44.620 doctors and

00:27:45.260 therapists that

00:27:45.920 because they're

00:27:46.520 the ones that

00:27:47.220 with very

00:27:48.320 very very little

00:27:49.820 oh no I

00:27:50.960 get that Mary

00:27:51.700 Margaret

00:27:51.940 I'm just asking

00:27:52.500 you have you

00:27:52.840 ever heard

00:27:53.420 any of them

00:27:53.940 try to explain

00:27:54.760 or give any

00:27:55.400 rationale

00:27:56.000 for that

00:27:56.680 because I do

00:27:57.240 think it's a

00:27:57.740 very important

00:27:58.520 and powerful

00:27:58.960 point

00:27:59.380 what they try

00:28:01.320 and do

00:28:01.820 to rationalize

00:28:02.760 it is to

00:28:03.360 just give you

00:28:04.040 these platitudes

00:28:04.920 these ideological

00:28:05.880 sayings

00:28:06.780 they'll try and

00:28:07.860 tell you that

00:28:08.560 like you don't

00:28:09.340 understand because

00:28:10.220 you're not well

00:28:10.880 versed in this

00:28:11.500 ideology

00:28:12.100 but you're right

00:28:13.160 at the end of

00:28:13.880 the day

00:28:14.320 it's one of

00:28:15.140 those things

00:28:15.620 where I think

00:28:16.080 Donald Trump Jr.

00:28:16.840 does a really

00:28:17.180 good job talking

00:28:17.860 about this

00:28:18.400 he'll just say

00:28:19.340 this is crazy 0.98

00:28:20.540 or WTF is going 0.91

00:28:22.060 on and that's

00:28:22.840 kind of the

00:28:23.300 the real

00:28:24.140 response that

00:28:25.260 everybody should

00:28:26.000 be giving to

00:28:26.540 it because

00:28:26.860 it's as simple

00:28:27.820 and basic as

00:28:28.460 that and

00:28:29.400 actually it's

00:28:29.920 one of the

00:28:30.180 reasons that

00:28:30.620 Donald Trump

00:28:31.100 won the last

00:28:31.700 election is

00:28:32.300 because he

00:28:32.600 kind of gave

00:28:33.060 voice to

00:28:33.720 that sentiment

00:28:34.880 as he was

00:28:35.820 campaigning and

00:28:36.520 saying this

00:28:36.980 is just

00:28:37.520 crazy

00:28:38.040 you all know

00:28:39.180 this is crazy

00:28:39.940 we shouldn't

00:28:40.620 have to put up

00:28:41.340 with this

00:28:41.680 anymore

00:28:42.040 we need to

00:28:42.600 protect our

00:28:43.140 kids

00:28:43.440 and that

00:28:44.320 campaign

00:28:44.960 messaging

00:28:45.860 really landed

00:28:46.480 him in the

00:28:46.940 White House

00:28:47.320 we saw the

00:28:48.220 polls that showed

00:28:48.880 that it did

00:28:49.360 it was some

00:28:49.680 of his biggest

00:28:50.280 campaign ads

00:28:51.240 just showing

00:28:52.120 people what

00:28:52.840 Kamala Harris

00:28:53.660 was saying

00:28:54.660 about transgenderism

00:28:55.860 and you know

00:28:56.800 helping illegal

00:28:58.080 aliens in prison

00:28:59.000 get sex changes

00:29:00.200 like this type

00:29:01.360 of rhetoric

00:29:01.840 is it's insane

00:29:03.500 and most people

00:29:04.220 don't agree with

00:29:04.920 it so I think

00:29:06.400 that you know

00:29:07.160 we need to

00:29:07.800 believe our

00:29:08.940 we need to

00:29:09.480 believe what

00:29:09.800 we're seeing

00:29:10.260 and we need

00:29:10.860 to give voice

00:29:11.520 to that

00:29:11.920 and the Trumps

00:29:13.560 frankly have been

00:29:14.180 doing a really

00:29:14.620 good job of

00:29:15.180 messaging on that

00:29:16.080 so they've been

00:29:17.720 very effective

00:29:18.400 and now

00:29:18.880 Trump is

00:29:19.720 president

00:29:20.060 and he's

00:29:20.440 been enacting

00:29:21.060 a lot of

00:29:21.420 different

00:29:21.840 executive orders

00:29:23.420 fighting back

00:29:24.340 on this ideology

00:29:25.120 so I'm really

00:29:26.140 interested in

00:29:26.720 seeing what

00:29:27.240 comes next

00:29:27.820 because you know

00:29:28.440 one big question

00:29:29.540 I have for

00:29:30.240 Caroline Leavitt

00:29:30.880 at this upcoming

00:29:31.640 briefing is

00:29:32.420 look we've seen

00:29:33.680 numerous trans

00:29:34.800 identifying shooters

00:29:35.680 targeting Christian

00:29:36.560 kids

00:29:36.920 is the FBI

00:29:38.100 going to start

00:29:38.660 investigating this

00:29:39.700 this sphere

00:29:40.820 of trans identifying

00:29:41.880 shooters targeting

00:29:42.780 Christian kids

00:29:44.080 is there going to

00:29:44.580 be a trans

00:29:45.540 terrorism category

00:29:46.420 what are we going

00:29:47.200 to see in this

00:29:47.880 area because

00:29:48.380 it's time to

00:29:49.420 stop pretending

00:29:50.100 like this isn't

00:29:51.040 a pattern

00:29:51.820 and frankly

00:29:53.280 during the

00:29:53.920 Biden administration

00:29:54.600 when the

00:29:55.460 covenant Christian

00:29:56.220 shooter targeted

00:29:57.280 kids in Nashville

00:29:58.460 what we saw there

00:29:59.940 was the FBI

00:30:00.540 hiding the

00:30:01.320 manifesto

00:30:02.080 they wouldn't

00:30:02.760 release it

00:30:03.260 they didn't

00:30:03.580 want to tell

00:30:04.020 everyone that

00:30:05.040 this shooter

00:30:05.620 was trans 0.99

00:30:06.280 and hated 0.99

00:30:06.760 Jews and hated 1.00

00:30:07.600 Christians and 0.98

00:30:08.380 was a deeply

00:30:09.300 troubled mentally

00:30:10.460 ill figure 0.83

00:30:11.020 and we had to

00:30:11.540 actually rely on

00:30:12.500 media outlets

00:30:13.680 like Daily Wire

00:30:14.700 to show people

00:30:16.040 what was actually

00:30:16.820 going on

00:30:17.400 so I'm hoping

00:30:18.140 for more

00:30:18.520 transparency

00:30:19.100 here for

00:30:20.140 heavier

00:30:20.460 investigations

00:30:21.140 and more

00:30:22.000 we appreciate

00:30:23.120 that you

00:30:23.580 have been

00:30:24.280 on this

00:30:24.660 story

00:30:25.100 and others

00:30:26.020 like the

00:30:26.540 covenant

00:30:26.760 school shooting

00:30:27.260 story

00:30:27.580 and I just

00:30:28.120 would remind

00:30:28.540 everybody

00:30:28.900 all of the

00:30:29.800 rationales

00:30:30.480 for they

00:30:31.300 can't share

00:30:32.040 the covenant

00:30:32.440 shooting

00:30:32.720 manifesto

00:30:33.480 were either

00:30:34.300 just guesses

00:30:34.960 or lies

00:30:35.560 depending on

00:30:36.140 who you're

00:30:36.360 talking about

00:30:36.880 because there

00:30:37.220 was no reason

00:30:37.740 they couldn't

00:30:38.100 have shared

00:30:38.340 that manifesto

00:30:39.200 it was pure

00:30:39.920 suppression

00:30:40.520 pure politics

00:30:41.860 Mary Margaret

00:30:42.680 Olihan of

00:30:43.360 the Daily Wire

00:30:43.980 I know you

00:30:44.540 got to go run

00:30:45.000 in and do a

00:30:45.640 whole West Wing

00:30:46.300 briefing thing

00:30:46.980 here so good

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00:32:40.740 back in here to Clay

00:32:42.080 and Buck appreciate you

00:32:43.220 all being with us we

00:32:44.480 have some follow-up on

00:32:45.920 yesterday's horrific

00:32:47.740 shooting to bring to

00:32:49.400 you we just want to make

00:32:50.540 sure we're following your

00:32:51.440 story closely giving you

00:32:52.760 all the details and

00:32:53.660 also yes of course this

00:32:55.860 becomes an issue of

00:32:58.120 politics because the

00:33:00.540 Democrats have rushed to

00:33:01.760 blame gun control have

00:33:02.900 rushed to mock prayer and

00:33:05.440 of course to make sure

00:33:07.040 that nobody thinks this

00:33:08.160 has anything to do with a

00:33:11.220 trans arrangement syndrome

00:33:14.160 situation that that they're

00:33:15.960 very clear on that one and

00:33:18.820 and I wanted to spend some

00:33:20.080 time on what is true here

00:33:21.900 and what is really going on

00:33:23.340 with with all of this but I

00:33:24.500 would first say Clay

00:33:25.320 fortunately my assessment

00:33:27.720 that the news we were

00:33:29.360 hearing out of the

00:33:30.440 hospitals was indicative of

00:33:33.400 most if not all of the

00:33:36.020 there were I believe adults

00:33:37.260 and children admitted for

00:33:38.740 wounds from the mass

00:33:40.880 shooting and there has been

00:33:42.820 confirmation that they all

00:33:44.280 made it so that that is a

00:33:46.200 blessing and I would note a

00:33:48.040 lot of you were praying I

00:33:50.680 know you we were praying

00:33:52.520 here on this show while we

00:33:54.420 were waiting for more news

00:33:55.880 of four who were in

00:33:57.120 critical condition those are

00:33:58.260 the ones we were of course

00:33:59.020 most concerned about and the

00:34:00.580 others who were stable but

00:34:02.820 they're all going home to

00:34:03.820 their families that has been

00:34:05.660 confirmed you know we did

00:34:07.160 lose we did lose two children

00:34:09.700 to the horrific terror attack

00:34:12.440 trans terror attack in

00:34:13.780 Minneapolis but we we also

00:34:16.260 have to take the the good

00:34:18.100 news where it comes and how

00:34:19.660 we can and the good news is

00:34:21.100 that those who are admitted to

00:34:22.840 the hospital with wounds all

00:34:23.960 made it and you know their

00:34:25.260 families are are clearly

00:34:29.240 overjoyed at that news despite

00:34:32.000 all the tragedy and the horror of

00:34:33.920 what happened there can be some

00:34:35.940 light in the darkness so I

00:34:38.420 wanted to note that because we

00:34:39.520 were discussing that and and

00:34:41.120 that was an important update that

00:34:42.380 you should all know also there

00:34:44.240 are stories of the bravery and

00:34:48.720 the love for one another from

00:34:51.460 the students from some of these

00:34:53.080 teachers here is a a fifth

00:34:55.380 grader who says that his friend

00:34:58.320 saved him from this shooter play

00:35:00.840 cut one it was like right beside

00:35:02.740 me I was like two seats away from

00:35:05.000 the stained glass windows they were

00:35:07.140 like the shots were like right next

00:35:08.700 to me scary yeah you went under

00:35:11.740 the pew after that happened yeah

00:35:13.040 and I got everyone tried to do I

00:35:16.080 think I got like gunpowder on my

00:35:17.640 neck yeah when you heard the

00:35:20.680 shots what went through your head

00:35:22.180 I was like the first one I was

00:35:25.080 like what is that I thought it was

00:35:26.860 just something then I heard it

00:35:27.960 again I just ran under the pew and

00:35:30.380 then I covered my head my friend

00:35:32.860 Victor like saved me though because

00:35:35.160 he laid on top of me but he got

00:35:37.200 hit your friend laid on top of you

00:35:39.720 yeah and he got hit is this

00:35:42.460 something that you practice before

00:35:44.720 um yeah we we practice it like

00:35:47.520 every month or I don't know but

00:35:50.540 yeah we prep we've never practiced

00:35:53.140 it in the um in the church though

00:35:56.020 his friend Clay covered him with his

00:35:58.600 own body during the shooting yeah

00:36:02.480 look there this is what I like to do

00:36:06.260 when awful things happen I like to

00:36:09.740 talk about the people who did the

00:36:11.740 right thing and who were brave and

00:36:14.100 who were courageous and who made the

00:36:16.180 choice to do everything that is uh

00:36:21.000 what you would hope would happen

00:36:22.740 there's always people who run towards

00:36:26.340 the sound of gunfire and do whatever

00:36:28.520 they can to protect innocent people and

00:36:30.520 I think their stories oftentimes get

00:36:32.220 lost because we focus too much on the

00:36:34.560 killer meaning uh one of the reasons I

00:36:38.200 try to avoid sometimes people don't

00:36:39.640 like it somebody sent an email like

00:36:40.960 why don't you name the killer as often

00:36:43.020 as because the data reflects that a lot

00:36:45.540 of people in their sick minds are doing

00:36:48.060 this to try to be famous that's what the 0.90

00:36:49.860 Columbine guys did they basically have

00:36:52.520 created an entire copycat arena of

00:36:56.380 school shooters who all want to be 0.69

00:36:58.500 famous they want their names to echo in

00:37:01.520 infamy and I would rather tell the

00:37:04.340 story as these kids stories come out I

00:37:07.220 would rather share stories of bravery

00:37:09.000 and courage and yes sometimes mournful

00:37:11.160 loss of the victims than give the person

00:37:15.320 who is frankly I think evil um and

00:37:19.060 certainly motivated by a desire to have

00:37:22.520 their evil acts not only create infamy

00:37:26.260 for themselves but motivate others to

00:37:29.220 engage in acts of evil and so I think

00:37:32.480 for all people of good conscience it's

00:37:34.600 important to shine a bright light on

00:37:37.500 positivity good courage uh overcoming

00:37:40.660 evil as it does every single day so um

00:37:44.600 within that context I do think it's

00:37:47.420 important to examine why this is

00:37:50.320 happening what has occurred that in

00:37:53.740 Nashville Tennessee my hometown a trans 0.53

00:37:56.680 person would take a gun in and try to 1.00

00:37:58.420 kill innocent kids at a school that she 1.00

00:38:01.060 attended and at a trans man uh would take 1.00

00:38:04.940 a gun into the school that he attended and 0.99

00:38:07.800 try to kill Christians and I want to play a 1.00

00:38:10.660 couple of these cuts but because I think 0.99

00:38:12.200 they're important you all out there

00:38:14.860 listening to us right now are quite well

00:38:17.420 informed on this story but I always think

00:38:19.940 it's important for you to think about what

00:38:22.000 would you know if you were just not

00:38:25.140 listening to this show and maybe you're

00:38:27.000 not on social media and you're not

00:38:28.960 following people like Mary Margaret

00:38:30.980 Olihan who we just talked with you're not

00:38:32.860 following Buck you're not following me

00:38:34.520 you are just kind of out there in legacy

00:38:38.040 media land what would you hear I want to

00:38:40.120 play a couple of these cuts this is ABC

00:38:42.020 News ABC News just had to pay 16 million

00:38:45.280 dollars to settle a lawsuit with President

00:38:47.300 Trump uh over uh George Stephanopoulos

00:38:51.640 calling him a rapist inaccurately on 0.95

00:38:54.040 television multiple times during an

00:38:55.740 interview with Nancy Mays this is to me

00:38:58.700 not an error this is I want to get this

00:39:01.300 guy's name Aaron Katersky reporting about

00:39:04.200 the Minnesota shooter now remember the

00:39:06.980 Minnesota shooter wrote on his gun kill 1.00

00:39:10.760 President Trump kill President Trump he is 0.99

00:39:14.860 the furthest thing from a Trump supporter 0.97

00:39:17.240 you could be imagine you didn't know that

00:39:19.940 you hadn't seen that photo you didn't

00:39:21.880 have this information this is what ABC

00:39:24.740 News viewers heard last night and there

00:39:27.200 are millions of them in the report about

00:39:30.100 this shooting listen 23 year old Robin

00:39:32.320 Westman was able to leave what police

00:39:35.540 called a video manifesto that they're now

00:39:38.680 going through to try and establish motive

00:39:40.640 we've also been going through it and can

00:39:43.860 tell you there are crude diagrams of the

00:39:46.480 church there are also photos of the

00:39:49.360 weapons and and they include all sorts

00:39:51.880 of writings the names of past mass

00:39:54.280 shooters criticism of Israel the name

00:39:56.740 of President Trump written on the guns

00:39:59.780 there are also racial slurs nihilistic

00:40:02.740 statements all painting the picture of

00:40:05.800 a disturbed individual who carried out

00:40:08.080 this mass shooting on the first week of

00:40:10.320 school at the Annunciation Church in

00:40:11.860 Minneapolis okay how do you not say if

00:40:15.800 your goal is to inform the public about

00:40:18.740 the facts of a case how do you leave out

00:40:21.960 that it was written kill President Trump

00:40:24.560 it had President Trump's name on the gun 0.99

00:40:26.960 well if you're watching that you could

00:40:28.500 think oh that must be a die-hard Trump 0.99

00:40:30.560 supporter oh this is one of those crazy 1.00

00:40:33.140 Trump supporters he took a gun to a 1.00

00:40:35.220 school and he shot up the place I do

00:40:38.160 think that this is incredibly important

00:40:40.780 and also Buck I wanted to play this and

00:40:42.460 I know the news reports are using the

00:40:44.700 person's name this not us but in order

00:40:47.240 to play this audio I think it's important

00:40:48.800 for you to hear what they're saying

00:40:49.880 Jake Tapper on CNN they are continuing

00:40:53.280 to be concerned about using the right

00:40:55.720 pronoun for a terrorist killer this is

00:40:59.080 what you would have heard if you were

00:41:00.460 watching CNN yesterday during their

00:41:02.780 coverage cut five the Minneapolis Star

00:41:05.180 Tribune this is another piece of the

00:41:06.940 puzzle as to who the shooter was

00:41:08.140 Minneapolis Star Tribune says according

00:41:09.960 to court records because there's been

00:41:11.580 some confusion about what the shooter's

00:41:12.880 name was yes Robin Westman's mother

00:41:15.840 applied to change her child's name in

00:41:17.780 2019 it was at one point Robert Paul

00:41:20.820 Westman correct but since she identifies

00:41:24.160 as a female and wants her name to 1.00

00:41:25.860 reflect that identification was underage

00:41:27.580 it's now Robin Westman I mean this is a

00:41:32.000 mass delusion when you have a killer

00:41:35.120 terrorist and on live television you are 0.81

00:41:38.680 worried about using the correct pronoun 0.88

00:41:40.960 of a trans terrorist it's indefensible 0.99

00:41:44.020 it's indefensible it's cowardice it's 0.97

00:41:46.860 Tapper I'm not surprised this is he's

00:41:49.200 always maneuvering within the the corporate

00:41:51.680 layers at CNN because it's not the

00:41:53.900 audience that he works for it's the

00:41:55.640 bosses writing the checks that he tries

00:41:57.920 to cater to and with that in mind you

00:41:59.940 have to remember that some of these media

00:42:01.580 institutions certainly at CNN there are

00:42:04.340 people who are keeping score on pronoun

00:42:07.480 usage maybe they're doing it quietly

00:42:09.160 clay but they tend to work in HR other

00:42:12.320 places in the building as well and they

00:42:14.740 will remember if you use the wrong

00:42:16.660 pronoun even for a child murdering 0.96

00:42:18.820 psychopath like this guy was they will 0.97

00:42:22.860 remember that you don't bend the knee and 0.87

00:42:25.180 they will try to exact revenge retribution

00:42:28.180 on you career wise later on I still see

00:42:32.500 people I just got an email a few days

00:42:35.080 ago from somebody about an unrelated

00:42:37.300 matter to to media but a profession you

00:42:40.560 know a an email somebody I was going to

00:42:42.220 be work doing work for me with pronouns

00:42:45.680 in this in the signature yeah why why do

00:42:49.360 you I want to ask this person I mean I'll

00:42:51.260 be honest I want to ask why why do you

00:42:52.560 have pronouns in your in your email

00:42:53.900 signature do you think I don't know

00:42:55.760 you're clearly a woman why are you 1.00

00:42:57.920 telling me that you're a woman in your 0.54

00:42:59.080 email signature like I I'm I'm I'm no

00:43:01.880 longer just passive about this it's a

00:43:03.880 bit like the mask thing by the way I

00:43:06.000 know you're gonna say buck that's a

00:43:07.100 crazy turn it's really not with COVID

00:43:09.060 initially it was just just to do it

00:43:11.440 because because it'll do something it'll

00:43:13.320 make people feel better and then we

00:43:15.380 said all right I mean I guess like some

00:43:16.980 places maybe I'll put this on so you

00:43:18.800 don't freak out and that was you better

00:43:20.120 do it or else I'll lock you up you

00:43:22.640 better do this or else I'll ban you

00:43:24.840 from public access to bars and

00:43:27.940 restaurants and everything else to

00:43:29.020 buildings where you work as the same

00:43:31.720 thing with the pronoun thing it starts

00:43:33.040 out as oh it's just a courtesy and then

00:43:35.540 once they get a critical mass it's do

00:43:37.620 this or you lose your job so don't ever

00:43:40.020 forget the slippery slope is real

00:43:42.380 slippery slope is almost undefeated and

00:43:44.640 the slippery slope with his trans 1.00

00:43:46.000 madness stuff is absolutely real and

00:43:49.500 established and finally it has started

00:43:51.700 to move in the other direction where

00:43:53.200 yeah as you know I I'm sick of saying

00:43:55.980 it to of course you treat trans people 0.96

00:43:57.440 with kindness you just treat them like

00:43:59.340 human beings because they are human

00:44:00.460 beings but you know clay if I walked

00:44:02.780 around telling everybody you have to

00:44:04.180 call me emperor lord of the universe

00:44:06.640 sexton I'm sorry people don't have to

00:44:09.580 do that that doesn't make them a bad

00:44:10.880 person because I'm not emperor lord of

00:44:12.560 the universe sexton and just because

00:44:14.820 somebody wants to demand something from

00:44:16.880 you it doesn't mean they can say

00:44:18.420 because of courtesy you have to go

00:44:19.880 along with it never mind as Trump says

00:44:21.940 the seven-foot guys were like I want

00:44:23.620 to play women's basketball now no no

00:44:26.900 why you don't get to why should you

00:44:29.300 get to pick your pronouns any more than

00:44:31.460 you get to pick your adjectives let me

00:44:33.940 tell you something may stun some of you

00:44:35.700 people call me some pretty tough things

00:44:38.480 on social media as some people are even

00:44:41.500 maybe even a little bit mean I don't

00:44:44.420 get to say hey sorry my preferred

00:44:47.540 word adjectives are handsome uh brilliant

00:44:51.740 like I don't get to tell you how you

00:44:55.100 define me well right what if somebody

00:44:57.960 clay what if you were sitting down with

00:44:59.480 an interview and so we'll take this in

00:45:00.680 sports world for a second you sat down

00:45:02.040 with somebody who is uh you know an NFL

00:45:03.720 player and he's like I would prefer that

00:45:06.040 you refer to me as Heisman trophy winner

00:45:07.860 so-and-so yeah and you look at him and

00:45:09.880 you go but you didn't win a Heisman

00:45:11.720 trophy yeah are you being discourteous or

00:45:14.940 are you just not living in a delusion I I

00:45:18.320 think again reasonable people uh have to

00:45:22.580 stand up and say we're not going to play

00:45:24.560 this game anymore and even beyond that how

00:45:28.620 do the Democrats back out of this by the

00:45:30.420 way how does that because I think they're

00:45:32.160 stuck I think this is the problem they've

00:45:33.780 run into they they're just waiting until

00:45:36.060 they have enough power again to ram it all

00:45:38.820 down our throats again that's the game the

00:45:40.680 game is not to actually retreat I'll give 0.96

00:45:43.160 you my answer I think gay people need to 0.99

00:45:46.140 say we're not a part of this group

00:45:48.520 anymore and I know we got a lot of gay

00:45:50.920 people out there listening to us right

00:45:52.560 now and I know some of you have felt this

00:45:54.540 for some time there is a pretty big

00:45:57.560 difference between saying hey I'm

00:45:59.980 attracted to the same sex and hey I am a

00:46:03.540 different gender than what all of us know 0.68

00:46:07.620 to be true I'll even say back in the day

00:46:09.800 back in that we had people transvestite

00:46:14.940 right like you dressed up potentially as

00:46:17.540 someone you weren't you didn't claim you

00:46:20.900 didn't claim that you were actually that

00:46:23.440 and I think a lot of gay people frankly

00:46:26.840 are looking around and saying like hey

00:46:28.620 you know I'm fine with the L's the G's the

00:46:31.080 B's this whole this is that this is the

00:46:34.340 Dave Chappelle sketch where he got a lot of

00:46:36.240 grief from the left but I think that to

00:46:38.800 you answer your question I think that 0.85

00:46:40.800 gay people have to start saying hey this 1.00

00:46:42.920 is not really our struggle our struggle

00:46:46.580 was hey we want to be able to have basic

00:46:48.340 human rights we want to be able to live as

00:46:50.340 as we believe we should be able to live

00:46:52.080 but you don't have to have surgery to

00:46:55.060 try to artificially create yourself if you 0.98

00:46:59.100 are gay and I think a lot of gay people 0.99

00:47:01.580 just need to say there's a difference here

00:47:03.140 this whole identity politics has created

00:47:07.040 pardon the pun a lot of very strange

00:47:09.420 bedfellows right a lot of black people 1.00

00:47:11.860 out there are actually very conservative

00:47:13.800 and go to church all the time and they're

00:47:16.860 looking around and they're like I this 0.70

00:47:18.520 trans thing is crazy I don't think dude 1.00

00:47:20.400 should be able to win women's 0.98

00:47:21.580 championships why am I in the same party

00:47:23.760 as them I think identity politics has to

00:47:26.700 explode and all the individuals have to

00:47:29.660 make rational decisions regardless of your

00:47:31.980 race your gender your ethnicity and you

00:47:34.460 have to be willing to speak truth and a

00:47:37.400 man is not a woman and a woman is not a 1.00

00:47:39.880 man and if they can get you to lie about

00:47:41.600 that they can get you to lie about anything

00:47:43.540 and they took advantage of kindness

00:47:45.540 particularly of women I'm sorry women are 1.00

00:47:48.600 kinder in general than men notice men there

00:47:51.680 is no Dylan Mulvaney there's no man there's

00:47:55.760 no woman who used to be a man that men are 1.00

00:47:57.640 like this is the man of the year we just

00:47:59.620 don't do it women got taken advantage of 1.00

00:48:02.280 I think women and gay people need to say

00:48:03.880 this is not right we're done with it

00:48:05.500 that's my answer so gold has been valuable

00:48:10.400 for a long time think about history think

00:48:13.300 about what what is the most basic unit of

00:48:15.760 money for thousands of years that people

00:48:18.160 will consider oh well gold gold has always

00:48:20.020 been valuable you have gold coins people

00:48:21.420 will trade those for stuff because gold is

00:48:25.540 good and valuable now look at the last 10

00:48:27.660 years 10 years I just put this into an a

00:48:30.440 into AI to give me a sense of what the

00:48:32.400 numbers are gold has had about a hundred

00:48:35.380 and eighty eight percent return over the

00:48:37.760 last 10 years that's pretty good isn't it

00:48:40.460 in fact over just the last year gold has

00:48:42.700 gone up about 40 percent so this is pretty

00:48:45.680 straightforward my friends the thesis here

00:48:47.280 is gold is valuable gold over time

00:48:50.060 increases in value and you should have

00:48:51.980 some gold as part of your portfolio now I

00:48:54.380 understand Trump's doing amazing things

00:48:55.680 with the economy it's very easy to kind

00:48:57.480 of rest on Trump's laurels here and say

00:48:59.400 well we're gonna look at the trade deals

00:49:01.200 and look at all these things yeah that's

00:49:02.520 great Trump's only got a few years in

00:49:04.140 office and I'm trying to get you prepared

00:49:06.060 for your finances and your future for 10

00:49:09.800 15 20 years from now and gold as a part

00:49:13.120 of that plan just makes sense a part of

00:49:15.180 the plan it's not the whole plan it's a

00:49:16.520 part of the plan it's a way to balance

00:49:18.160 your portfolio and to protect some of your

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00:51:02.140 listen to your podcasts clay have you

00:51:05.040 heard of the rio reset sounds like a

00:51:07.160 trendy new workout buck it does but it's

00:51:09.640 actually a big summit going on in brazil the

00:51:11.840 formal name is bricks which stands for

00:51:13.780 brazil russia india china and south africa

00:51:16.240 but they've just added five new members

00:51:18.420 smart move to stick with bricks we know

00:51:20.960 what happens when acronyms don't end they

00:51:22.960 confuse everyone well that's an

00:51:24.520 understatement bricks is a group of

00:51:26.340 emerging economies hoping to increase

00:51:28.120 their sway in the global financial order

00:51:30.420 now that sounds like the plot line of a

00:51:32.600 movie i'm listening philip patrick is our

00:51:35.280 bruce wayne he's a precious metal specialist

00:51:38.060 and a spokesman for the birch gold group

00:51:40.160 he's on the ground in rio getting the

00:51:42.560 whole lowdown on what's going on there

00:51:44.440 can he give us some inside intel

00:51:46.200 absolutely he's been there since day one

00:51:48.800 in fact a major theme at the summit is

00:51:50.920 how bricks nations aim to reduce reliance

00:51:53.200 on the u.s dollar in global trade yikes

00:51:55.980 that doesn't sound good we got to get

00:51:57.660 philip on the line stat already did and

00:52:00.260 he left the clay and buck audience this

00:52:02.260 message the world is moving on from the

00:52:05.180 dollar quietly but steadily these nations

00:52:08.960 are making real progress towards

00:52:10.820 reshaping global trade and the u.s dollar

00:52:13.680 is no longer the centerpiece that shift

00:52:16.880 doesn't happen overnight but make no

00:52:19.560 mistake it's already begun thank you

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00:52:47.920 welcome back in everybody to clay and buck

00:52:50.940 we are joined now by lieutenant governor

00:52:52.840 winsome earl sears the first uh woman 1.00

00:52:56.600 elected governor first black woman and

00:52:58.760 female veteran to hold statewide office in

00:53:01.420 virginia a fantastic patriot who is doing

00:53:04.020 wonderful things in the great state of

00:53:06.280 virginia which is a place i've spent a

00:53:08.380 tremendous amount of time actually over

00:53:10.120 the years um lieutenant governor appreciate

00:53:12.680 you being with us well hello and thank you

00:53:15.700 for having me now i do have to correct you

00:53:18.460 on one thing i'm not yet the first female

00:53:21.240 governor i'm the fair i'm the first female

00:53:24.380 lieutenant governor that's a good thing

00:53:26.280 oh sorry well yes well but you're going to

00:53:29.660 be the first female governor right tell us 1.00

00:53:31.420 about it well there that is yes and it's

00:53:34.120 why because we have the common sense ideas

00:53:36.420 what do i mean well it's a good question

00:53:38.140 who asked that i think i just did well it's

00:53:41.160 because again we have been able to present

00:53:43.880 an economy to the people of virginia and

00:53:47.060 they love it they love that we've created so

00:53:49.220 many jobs you know 276 000 people working

00:53:53.500 that weren't before we came into office we

00:53:56.200 also have over 250 000 job openings and then

00:54:00.380 we've created on top of that 15 000 plus new

00:54:05.420 business startups never existed how can you

00:54:08.800 do that because you get rid of barriers you

00:54:11.500 get rid of regulations and you become people

00:54:14.060 who want virginia to succeed so my opponent 0.66

00:54:17.140 says now she's running on our successes wait

00:54:19.880 you're a democrat running on the successes that

00:54:22.960 we created you're not going to keep them if

00:54:25.100 you win which she won't but if she were to

00:54:27.240 win she would dismantle and destroy everything 0.51

00:54:29.340 that we've created so she's got the problem not

00:54:32.300 me we've been doing the work abigail where

00:54:34.700 have you been we're talking to winsome sears

00:54:38.520 a lieutenant governor of virginia who hopes and

00:54:41.760 should be the next governor i saw some of these uh

00:54:45.360 some of these statements um from abigail spanberger who is the

00:54:49.960 democrat nominee on men and women's sports and she

00:54:55.120 dodged the question like she was neo in the matrix i mean

00:54:58.700 she is doing everything she can do to avoid saying what is very easy for

00:55:03.100 everybody 90 plus percent i think of actual sports fans

00:55:06.380 even two-thirds of democrats hey men have no business in women's sports 1.00

00:55:11.300 i saw your ad i loved it you're you're nailing her on this but isn't it about

00:55:16.560 just how out of touch she is with virginia that she can't speak the truth on

00:55:20.540 this well everything about her is out of

00:55:24.060 touch and none of it makes any sense you know

00:55:26.920 here are the parents wanting to raise their boys to respect women to honor

00:55:31.240 women and then we have for example the valden county school

00:55:34.840 board who have disciplined the two young men

00:55:39.060 because they are uncomfortable being forced to undress

00:55:43.040 in front of a female and for that they are now labeled sexual in their school

00:55:48.680 records sexual harassers but this is what their

00:55:52.880 parents have been raising them to be to respect women so you have now school

00:55:57.440 boards who are against parents and abigail spanberger supports that because

00:56:01.900 she voted for men biological men in women's sports 0.95

00:56:07.220 she voted for biological men having to be able to undress in locker rooms with our 1.00

00:56:14.100 young girls she voted for all this nonsense and that's crazy because she's got three 1.00

00:56:20.060 girls what what is that what you want for your girl children parents don't want that 1.00

00:56:25.880 i wouldn't want that she needs to come forward and defend defend her vote she voted that way 1.00

00:56:32.820 virginia doesn't want that and that's why i'm asking virginia for your vote this coming november so we

00:56:38.520 can continue with common sense and not policies that tear us away from our children uh lieutenant

00:56:46.340 governor winsome sears with us right now this story just broke on outkick and it goes directly

00:56:52.160 into the state of virginia um and i'm betting that abigail spanberger is going to be dodging it in 1.00

00:56:58.480 addition to roanoke women's swimmers and loudon county as you mentioned in 2022 virginia tech

00:57:06.020 female swimmers protested leah thomas who was a man pretending to be a woman swimming for the

00:57:12.440 university of pennsylvania women's swim team they reached out to espn begged for espn to tell the

00:57:19.660 story of their protest espn refused to cover it uh so it's not just abigail spanberger it's also there

00:57:27.580 have been a lot of legacy media outlets that have refused to speak truth here and now they're trying

00:57:33.220 to run cover for your opponent um i think this is really significant i know it matters a great deal

00:57:39.380 to our audience but how protected is the legacy media trying to keep your opponent so she doesn't

00:57:46.500 have to answer questions about her failures on this issue oh so they started a long time ago by not even

00:57:53.220 asking any questions of me they would just pretend i didn't exist i mean i would walk by them and they

00:57:58.860 would not say a word uh they would have microphones in everybody else's face and it was as if i didn't

00:58:04.300 exist i mean i have been the headliner the keynote speaker at events you know i'm a united states marine

00:58:10.820 corps veteran and i would be at uh veterans affairs honoring veterans events and they would not even say

00:58:19.120 that i was there even though i was the keynote speaker never even said i was in the audience

00:58:24.060 never even put my picture in but always talked about everybody else around me so they have been

00:58:31.040 dismissing me for some time now because they saw me coming and they knew that she would be in trouble

00:58:36.720 abigail spanberger and they want her to win and you know here's the problem with that i i grew up partly

00:58:42.480 in jamaica which at the time was suffering from socialist policies and the media put their finger

00:58:50.020 on the scale for other people who eventually ended up destroying what little economy we had because

00:58:57.840 socialism you know you can't ever do it right and put jamaica's economy in a tailspin and i can't

00:59:03.800 believe that that's the same thing i'm seeing here but we're going to win because you know you can't hold

00:59:09.620 righteousness down and when you're on the right side of an issue where common sense is common sense

00:59:15.680 and where i even have now democrats who are coming up to me and saying i'm a democrat but i'm going to

00:59:20.760 vote for you because i don't want my girl children having to undress in front of full frontal noodle 1.00

00:59:27.080 boys i mean think about we're creating sexual trauma sexual trauma do we not have enough trauma in the world 0.97

00:59:33.440 no it's no it's craziness lieutenant governor sears i want to ask uh if if you do become

00:59:39.940 the governor and we're obviously uh rooting for you pushing for you and and hopeful that this is

00:59:46.180 going to happen uh virginia is such a great state the northern part of your state some of the politics

00:59:51.400 they're not my favorite i'm just saying the right when you get in the the edge of dc you got some

00:59:56.020 people that well you need to reach out to them and convince them of the error of uh you know

01:00:00.640 arlington's ways but um virginia otherwise a fantastic and wonderful state actually a family

01:00:05.880 uh that was from virginia and still lives there i want to know what you're going to do if you become

01:00:10.720 the governor what will you continue on from the very successful tenure of governor youngkin and what

01:00:16.460 would be some of the things that the uh great residents of the commonwealth would be able to look

01:00:21.220 forward to so one of the things i'm going to do unlike my opponent is i'm going to continue to keep

01:00:27.140 virginia safe i'm going to support our law enforcement department of corrections personnel

01:00:31.800 we're not going to get rid of their qualified immunity we're not going to defund them you know

01:00:36.220 who will my opponent abigail spanberger because she has said and she has taken money from wait for it 1.00

01:00:42.260 that defund the police pack you can't take she's taken thousands from them so you know it's not like

01:00:49.460 we don't know what she's going to do so we need our police right we need everybody there because i can't

01:00:56.340 even talk about safety and security i can't talk about jobs being created taxes being low

01:01:02.020 if we're not safe and secure right so that's the first thing i'm going to do and you probably saw

01:01:06.800 yesterday where she came out and said she was one of the first things first things that she was going

01:01:11.660 to do is precisely get rid of our safety and security because she's going to stop all these ice 1.00

01:01:18.200 detainers where we have now found 4 000 criminal illegal aliens in virginia including

01:01:26.080 the number three top head of ms 13 and they are in various states of incarceration and deportation

01:01:34.780 she's going to stop that i mean who is this woman where did we where did we get her from 1.00

01:01:40.180 well she can't be governor the next thing people want is that they want their taxes back in their 1.00

01:01:45.420 pockets and we've restored what nine billion dollars back into the pockets of virginia's taxpayers we have

01:01:52.420 run a 10 billion dollar surplus for each of the um for the entire time that we've been in office

01:01:58.840 and we're going to keep creating jobs we're going to keep getting rid of regulations we're going to

01:02:03.900 have the energy that they need we're going to have shovel ready sites we're going to keep their

01:02:08.720 inventories and their employees safe jobs will flood in and well you will see we will continue our great

01:02:15.480 economic successes whereas my opponent is going to tax them to death she's going to put regulations 1.00

01:02:20.860 back on them and she's going to force every single employee even if they don't want to to join a 1.00

01:02:27.060 union that for me is an issue of liberty so people know what they're going to get with me it's all

01:02:34.320 common sense money in your pocket jobs and safety there you go she doesn't know how to do this she was 1.00

01:02:40.340 never there when we were creating any of this good stuff she was in congress taking stupid votes 1.00

01:02:45.760 against us and now she's trying to backtrack but she's not even back she's like pussetani phil we 0.98

01:02:51.760 haven't seen her in a while where have you been abigail you can't lead from behind lieutenant governor

01:02:57.820 sears appreciate you very much and uh please come back and talk to us either right before your victory

01:03:03.160 or right after you can choose winsome for governor.com please go to my website winsome for governor.com

01:03:09.840 and help me yes i'll go helper guys and gals we need we need to make sure we have a good

01:03:17.100 governor in virginia and uh and things are certainly trending in the right direction there politically

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01:04:50.300 clay travis buck sexton show uh we are rolling through the thursday edition of the program a bunch

01:04:57.540 of comments rolling in uh let me read some of the emails uh tristan hey guys a long time listener first

01:05:06.220 time reaching out i'm 40 years old gay male i agree 100 that i do not identify with this current lgbtq

01:05:16.320 alphabet community i'm a gay man i don't agree at all with any of the trans issues except for that

01:05:22.180 they should be treated like human beings but i'm not going to be holding on to their delusion 100

01:05:27.140 percent agree another email just heard you on the radio talking about how gay men and women should

01:05:33.160 push back not just gay men i i think buck asked a question i think it's a really good question how do

01:05:39.100 we break sort of the national uh fever of delusion as it pertains to the trans related issues and i

01:05:48.800 said we have to break identity politics overall so people stop thinking about this as a group issue

01:05:54.200 and just look at it individually whether you're gay straight uh black white asian hispanic whatever

01:06:00.620 you want to be but i said the gay community breaking away from the alphabet mafia here and saying hey this

01:06:07.460 is not reflective of us so just to be clear uh you said it perfectly well i appreciate that uh this

01:06:12.880 isn't our fight trans is not our fight i'm a gay man god made me that god does not make mistakes um

01:06:20.300 okay uh lisa in florida now this may be tough lisa you say your son is trans so how old is he

01:06:30.440 now 40 yeah but when this when this started at like 17 okay so uh this is and obviously look there

01:06:41.580 are the vast majority of trans kids out there are not going to turn into school shooters right so 0.98

01:06:47.780 we're not saying this is directly connected but when did your kid start to receive treatment

01:06:53.480 a treatment um for wanting to become trans yes yeah so well the school jumped in there and started

01:07:03.540 doing the counseling right there the college he was going to and uh it only takes they take two

01:07:08.940 psychiatrists to get it approved and both of them said oh sure so 17 18 19 and then in the 20s we

01:07:15.680 you know changed first name last name not we not me um and the next thing i know this is who i am

01:07:21.800 and you have to call me this which i have to this day not and still respected you know the

01:07:28.100 boundaries that's your life if that's what you want to do okay but at the same time it has gotten

01:07:33.560 so radical and i got this whole smell too even from him would you rather have a good child or

01:07:41.520 a transgender the horrible blackmail line emotional blackmail line they use against parents all across 1.00

01:07:47.160 the country lisa do you feel like do you feel like um the college transed if you will your son is

01:07:54.560 that your belief or i mean how much of a role do you think they played that that was if you could

01:07:59.460 have seen the counselor that was in there with me um you know and she's trying to tell me well

01:08:04.180 she says she says i'm like no she is not because i've seen her go from the bedroom to the bathroom

01:08:09.180 and drop the towel so i parts are still where they are but at the same time i told your screener

01:08:15.440 who's very compassionate i told my husband last night because it has gotten so far out of hand

01:08:19.780 and so radical and his whole personality and i mean this is a kid that grew up in in um you know

01:08:26.140 christian church and enjoyed it and loved it not anymore and i don't know how to describe the

01:08:33.080 feeling but i told my husband last night i said that he was has he had the full has your son had the

01:08:38.040 full lisa like uh the surgeries no no what about drug treatment um the hormones all those things oh

01:08:47.240 my goodness yes we've got boobs everything yes um yes how has that changed his behavior and i i guess

01:08:56.140 that's part one part two what would you want other parents out there who might be dealing with this to

01:09:03.020 know from your perspective well it immediately started changing the personality and then

01:09:08.760 actually he even admitted it and it also started changing just health issues overall but the other

01:09:13.780 thing don't buy into that because it gets so far-fetched and so deep into it i told my husband last night

01:09:18.700 i don't know if he would actually you've gotten so bitter and they feed into it and make it worse i don't

01:09:26.680 know that he wouldn't go out and do something like this i can't tell you that and i it's horrible

01:09:33.160 if this is going to sound i don't know how to say this and it's just going to sound horrible but

01:09:36.800 i if i thought that something would happen to my son committing suicide and he would still go to

01:09:43.040 heaven i would be better living with that than knowing that he went out and killed children or

01:09:50.880 anybody for that matter i don't even know if that makes sense no i love my son i appreciate

01:09:55.780 i appreciate you calling in and sharing this because i think what it goes to is the um and

01:10:02.520 thank you so much and and certainly a lot of people are are going to pray for you lisa but

01:10:06.700 i think what it goes to buck is the emotional blackmail that this puts families through that is rooted in a

01:10:16.100 lie and i just i'm sorry i don't think that any of these kids are getting better right that you're not

01:10:24.180 getting a better son or daughter than you already had and it's putting families through the ringer

01:10:31.300 right i mean imagine if you sat down with somebody clay who was a a serious drug addict and their

01:10:36.980 response to you was either tell me the drugs are good or i might commit suicide that's what's going 0.61

01:10:42.860 on here there's no choice for these parents this is an iheart podcast guaranteed human

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