BONUS： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 7 2025
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Sen. Marsha Blackburn has announced that she is running for governor of Tennessee, and at the bottom of the hour, we will talk with Sen. Tim Scott about the ongoing shenanigans in Washington, D.C. and beyond.
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Buck is out traveling with his family on a summer vacation.
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We have an absolutely locked and loaded program.
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Senator Marsha Blackburn has announced that she is going to be running for governor of Tennessee.
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She will be on with us at the bottom of this hour.
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In the second hour, big battle in North Carolina coming to replace Tom Tillis.
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Michael Watley, who ran the RNC, did a great job in 2024, North Carolina native.
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He is going to be the Republican nominee to run against former Governor Roy Cooper of the state of North Carolina.
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We will talk with Michael Watley, who hopefully will be the next senator from North Carolina.
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And then at 2.30, we will speak with Tim Scott, who is the current senator from South Carolina,
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about all of the ongoing shenanigans in Washington, D.C. and beyond.
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Bottom of the hour, we've got a bunch of guests, two senators and one who hopes to be a senator,
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Now, within that construct, we have got a lot of stuff going on right now that I want to dive into.
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I think in an incredibly consequential manner, Trump has demanded that we have a new census.
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I'm going to explain why that could be so incredibly consequential, not only right now,
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because there were a lot of errors in the 2020 census, and he believes they need to be rectified,
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but also because in 2030, there are going to be seismic differences in the overall census tallies.
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And I think this is a battle that you should be paying a lot of attention to,
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because it could be incredibly important, not only for the midterms,
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but also in the 2028 presidential race, and beyond that, in the 2030 interplay as it pertains to the census.
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But I wanted to start with what I would say is a genuine acknowledgement that our cities have become too violent,
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and it's time to actually put bad guys behind jail, behind bars in jail.
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And we are getting these questions and these viral stories from all over the country,
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but I wanted to start with one that we talked with Bernie Marino about.
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A violent attack on an innocent woman, Holly, who Bernie Marino came on with us last week and talked all about it.
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Many of you saw her awfully bruised and battered face,
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and she now has spoken out about what happened to her.
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She appeared with our friend, Senator Bernie Marino of Ohio.
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We need more police officers, but like he said, you know, the judges who are just letting people out with a slap.
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The man who attacked me and might have permanently damaged me forever should never have been on the streets, ever.
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And the fact that he had just gotten out of jail previously for something,
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It's really sad to me because I can't even fathom how many other people who have been attacked
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by the same type of man over and over and over.
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In Toledo, in Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton, our streets are being taken over and nobody is doing anything.
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I am so sad, and I need to be the voice to help all of the victims that never got their justice.
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Again, if you heard Bernie Marino tell her story, she is a mom of a young special needs child.
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She went out on a date in Cincinnati, and she got knocked out.
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Now, she got in an Uber after she got knocked out.
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It's an innocent mom, could have been any mom in America, out for a night out in a big city, Cincinnati.
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And I know that a lot of you out there are cops, and you're listening to me all over the country,
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and you are just nodding your head because you're saying, we arrest these bad guys.
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And I think they're finally, we're at a tipping point, and we finally got a president,
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and we got enough senators and governors who are standing up and saying, no, we're not going to let this happen.
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Yesterday, I was talking with you about, look, I love Washington, D.C.
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And what you hear people say is, oh, crime's coming down.
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How about we actually address the fact that any significant rate of violent crime is unacceptable in this country?
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How about we have a real conversation about that?
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And I give credit to President Trump for raising this as an issue.
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Here is Judge Janine Pirro, cut two, saying, hey, I'm in charge now, and this is not going to be acceptable.
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Violence against anyone in this district will not be tolerated, especially violence, which has hate at its core and is the genesis of violence.
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The president put me here to do a job, to clean up the district, to make sure that crime doesn't overshadow this phenomenal city, our nation's capital.
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And I have, throughout my career, fought anti-Semitism for 32 years as a prosecutor and a judge.
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So don't even think about targeting people in this district because of who they are or because of where they're from.
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I promise you, justice will be swift and it will be certain.
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Let's get, Allie, let's get a request in for Judge Pirro.
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I think we've had her on the program in the past, and certainly we overlap quite a lot at Fox News.
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And I think it's important, okay, you might be sitting around out there and you might be saying, hey, okay, what's the counterargument to this?
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Trump said, in fact, cut three, hey, maybe we just need to take over the D.C. police force and actually make something happen here.
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President Trump, I'm federalizing D.C., are you considering taking over the D.C. police?
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We're considering it, yeah, because the crime is ridiculous.
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I could show you a chart comparing D.C. to other locations, and you're not going to want to see what it looks like.
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It was just up on television, actually, that we're showing it.
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Now, we want to have a great, safe capital, and we're going to have it.
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And that includes cleanliness and includes other things.
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Do you want Congress to look at overturning the D.C. Home Rule Act?
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This has to be the best run place in the country, not the worst run place in the country.
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And I give him credit for coming in and trying to solve this problem instead of just kind of hiding behind the security detail, as many presidents have done in the past.
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They don't actually solve issues when it comes to violence.
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And what the president's referring to is, I ran through this yesterday.
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We have one of the highest violent crime rates of any capital city in the world.
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I mean, Ethiopia, Addis Ababa, which I'm probably mispronouncing, has a lower rate of violent crime in its capital city than the United States does.
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And most people, most countries, consider their capital to be a jewel that should represent the best of their country and not be a place that is filled with violent crime.
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And so the rest of the country may not be as safe, and that's unfortunate.
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But they say, hey, the capital city is going to be safe.
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We're going to put the resources in to ensure that this isn't happening.
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And I give a lot of credit to Trump and Judge Jeanine Pirro for shining a light on this.
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This is really funny to me because Trump is basically saying, hey, rates of violent crime are way too high.
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And I want to do whatever it takes to get those rates of violent crime down.
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D.C. is far higher than a city like New York City, for instance, when it comes to rates of violent crime.
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New York City is far safer than Washington, D.C.
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Something that you could be in favor of, no matter what your politics are.
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Well, Jessica Tarlov, who's also at Fox News, in fact, used to sit next to Judge Jeanine Pirro on The Five, a show that many of you would watch on a regular basis.
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What are Democrats thinking when it comes to the nationalization of D.C.?
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Because there's no reason to have Donald Trump be in charge of D.C.
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And the good news is, is that crime is down dramatically.
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So year over year, 2024, had a violent crime drop to a 30-year low, 35% down.
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Just because big balls did a terrible job at D.C. does not mean that he deserved this.
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How do you argue against a very basic fact that should be supported by everyone?
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Moms all over this country need to be able to go out to dinner in a city without worrying that they're going to get knocked flat out on the street by a mob of violent thugs that accost them.
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I've said for a long time that one of the ways to know whether your neighborhood is safe or not is, are you okay with your wife, your girlfriend, your daughter going for a jog around 6 o'clock p.m.
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in the afternoon, evening in your neighborhood?
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Far too many American cities and neighborhoods, the answer is no.
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And I know there's a ton of you listening to me right now that if you see your wife get in your tennis shoes, you're like, hey, I hope you're going to the gym because it's a little bit late, might start to get dark.
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I don't feel comfortable with you out on the streets.
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You got a daughter, you got a granddaughter trying to stay in shape.
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How many different parts of America do we not feel comfortable with women going for jogs or walks or workouts in the neighborhood because we've just come to accept that violent crime is a real threat and we don't even want the women in our lives to be out.
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Now, some men, probably like me, you don't worry about it that much, but every woman thinks about it all the time.
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And that mom, Holly, in Cincinnati getting knocked out, I'm sorry, it's unacceptable.
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And what's further unacceptable is when we point out this violence, young intern gets killed randomly in the streets of Washington, D.C.
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And people say, okay, well, but, you know, in real life, the rate of violent crime is actually declining.
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And I think Trump deserves credit, by the way, for the rates of violent crime beginning to decline in 2025 fairly significantly because I think a lot of you out there nodding right now, police officers, you can finally do your jobs again.
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But here in my home state, Memphis, I talked about this the other day.
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I'll tell you the story a little bit more when we come back, but because we're going to talk with Senator Blackburn, who wants to run for governor.
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I know a lot of y'all are listening in Memphis right now.
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It was the night Tennessee and Kentucky played a basketball game, needed to charge my phone, and I went downstairs.
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Maybe they had a charger there, and I said, well, I'll just go to the grocery store.
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And the lady at the counter said, hey, be careful.
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She said to me, be careful if you're going out to buy a charger after dark.
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What are we talking about that going to a grocery store or a convenience store or a gas station after dark in a city like Memphis at 8 o'clock?
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That the front desk ladies are like, hey, be careful.
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He was like, hey, is there anywhere to walk to go get something to eat?
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What are we talking about that this is just considered to be a normal part of discourse?
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Let's make everyone, women in particular, safe in every big city in America.
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That seems like a very reasonable goal, and I think it's an important conversation that we need to be having.
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We just got through talking with Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee.
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Michael Watley will be with us at the bottom of the hour.
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He is going to be running for Senate in North Carolina to try to replace Tom Tillis.
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Senator Tim Scott will be with us in the third hour.
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It's just me, you, and all of us having a good time here on the rest of today and tomorrow
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as we are rolling through so many different stories that are out there.
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First hour, we talked about the out-of-control violence and how President Trump is trying
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to get Washington, D.C. back to some form of safety.
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And I mentioned looking at capital cities as a proxy for the excellence of a nation at large.
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If you're a history nerd like I am, Washington, D.C. was a planned capital city.
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And one of the things that's really amazing when you walk around Washington, D.C. is they
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And when they designed it, there was almost nothing there.
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And if you read the history of, say, Washington, D.C. from the 19th century and even the early
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parts of the 1900s, people would talk about how the city was designed for a country to be
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the greatest in the history of the world, but it wasn't there yet.
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And so, as a result, it was just these massive, massive roads, planned city, with almost nothing
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And I always love, if you study history, the metaphor of the Capitol Dome.
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During the Civil War, Lincoln insisted that the construction of the Capitol Dome continue.
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And if you look at old photos in the 1860s of Washington, D.C., you can see them working
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And it was very expensive, and it required a great deal of steel.
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But his explanation was, the nation is still being built and preserved.
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I'm not going to stop work on the nation's Capitol, because this is an important symbol of what
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this nation represents, and eventually of the nation coming together and healing anew.
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And I give credit, I don't know how many of you saw this.
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And Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, they just announced that they were going to bring
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back a reconciliation monument at Arlington Cemetery that was created by a Confederate veteran.
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And the idea is to bring the nation together again and sort of bind the wounds of the nation.
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And I think one of the greatest speeches ever given in the history of the United States was
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And the nation as a whole being brought together, even with his killing in Ford's Theater.
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If you visit D.C. today, you'll come across the bridge that connects Virginia and Washington, D.C.
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And a lot of people don't talk about it now, but at the time that bridge was created, it
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was seen as a symbolic union of north and south.
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In particular, Robert E. Lee's Arlington, which is on the bluff overlooking the Potomac River
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You can stand on the porch at Arlington or on the steps on the backside of the Lincoln Memorial
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So you have the leader of the Confederate Army, Robert E. Lee, looking directly at Lincoln's
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memorial and the Lincoln Memorial reflecting in some way Arlington as well.
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And that union of the bridge bringing the two sides of the country back together again
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was seen at the time that it was made as a profoundly symbolic statement.
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And I think President Trump gets symbol, and he understands that things are more important
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And so people get mad when he says, well, I want Alcatraz to exist as a prison.
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He sees that as a symbol for a message that he wants to have out there, alligator Alcatraz.
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And I think what President Trump sees with Washington, D.C.
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is we can't say that we are a fabulous, undisputed champion of the global economy and world
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if kids are getting mowed down in the streets of Washington, D.C. every day.
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It needs to be the best of what America can represent, particularly Washington, D.C.,
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which I said historically has existed for that reason throughout time.
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They took that location, as opposed to Philadelphia, which had been a capital,
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as opposed to New York City, to create something new as a symbol for a country
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that was going to be a global beacon of freedom and opportunity.
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And how can you allow violent crime to take it over
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and not see that as a direct attack upon American exceptionalism itself?
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I mentioned this earlier and before, but capital homicide rates.
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This is most recent homicide rates, 41 per 100,000, Washington, D.C.
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I think because their leaders understand the symbolic importance of having a safe
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and secure and vibrant and objectively beautiful capital city.
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I don't think most of you out there say, you know what country,
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but let me just give you a bunch of these different countries.
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By the way, this is going to expose my own lack of geographical knowledge.
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I believe Brazilia, Brazil is also a planned capital.
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People talk about how violent and dangerous Brazil is all the time.
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It should be a dark stain on America that our capital city of Washington, D.C.
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has five times the murder rate of Mexico's capital city.
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Ethiopia, Colombia, Nigeria, Brazil, Kenya, Cuba, Peru, all of them infinitely safer in
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their capital cities than you and me and everybody is going around in Washington, D.C.
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We had an emailer who said, hey, maybe we have to go after parents for some of this violent
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And I said, I'm a little bit, I accept it on some level, but I don't accept it on another
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level because I think what you would see is that many of the kids that are engaging in
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violent behavior are actually not living at home.
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So, grandma and grandpa might be raising them, aunts, uncles, foster parents.
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I think really when you look at violent crime, what you see almost overwhelmingly is the absence
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If you have a dad and a mom in your house, the odds of you engaging in violent behavior plummet
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So, my concern here is you got a 16-year-old who takes a gun out and shoots somebody and
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then you decide to prosecute mom who is the only one that was trying to raise that kid.
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And dad, who hasn't shown up for 16 years, may not even be on the birth certificate, he doesn't
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So, my concern when Bo writes in, and I think it's an interesting comment, is that what would
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end up happening is the moms, and the grandmas, and the aunts, and all the women who are very
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often doing their darndest to try to raise that kid who's got an absent dad, and may have an
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absent grandpa too, because a lot of what you find out is when dad's not there, it's often the case that
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grandpa wasn't there, and unfortunately that great grandpa wasn't there either, because it's hard to
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break that cycle, and some of you out there listening know what I'm talking about, because
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you're trying to break the cycle, you're the dad that's present, you know what it was like to not
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So, my concern is when you say, well, let's prosecute the parents, you got poor mom who's
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working three jobs and doing her darndest to take care of a kid that dad had no interest in,
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and dad doesn't have any culpability at all, even though he's actually the cause.
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So, I think if you go back up the chain of causation, oftentimes gun violence and violent
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teenagers actually started when dad didn't show up at the birth at the hospital, and dad hasn't been
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In many ways, these are young men who have not been raised to be men, and they are angry
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at the world, and they take out their anger on the world, and all that anger starts because
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So, when I think through holding mom accountable, mom's doing her best to raise that kid by herself,
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and she's got three jobs, and the kid, as a result, doesn't have somebody at home whipping
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him into shape like a dad hopefully would, and he falls in with the wrong guys in the
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neighborhood, and next thing you know, he's dealing drugs, or he's trying to carjack, and
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mom's out there trying to do her best, and then you come home and you charge her with a
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crime, and then she may have two younger kids that she's also trying to raise.
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I like to go to what caused the problem, not to just what's connected to the problem.
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And to me, what caused the problem is dad's not there.
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And I think the number, this is my big, you know, get on a preacher box argument.
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I think the number one issue that unites much of what is going on in the country today of
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Families not having enough money to feed the kids, dad's not there.
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Families that are dealing with incredible violence, dad's not there.
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If you go to the, this is my personal opinion, if I could change one thing, every kid that's
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born has a dad at home, I think our national rates of violence would drop by 90%.
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I think if dad is home, the overall collapse of much of what we see going wrong in American
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So, my concern responding to Bo is, you're actually going to hold accountable the mom,
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the grandma, the aunt, the foster family that's trying to take it, to take this responsibility
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of dad that he didn't fulfill, and then they get blamed because everything doesn't go perfect.
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And that's why I get a little bit nervous about holding parents responsible criminally, because
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so many people are doing everything they can to help to try to fill the void that is there
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You go look at rates of crime, it collapses in every household where dad is there raising
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And by the way, it's almost all boys, and the data actually reflects, meaning committing
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the crimes, the data actually reflects that young girls have far less negative consequences
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from an absent male figure in a household than young boys do.
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I think young girls see mom, and that's an aspirational figure for them, and it's still
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better for young girls if dad is home, but what the data shows is boys' outcomes collapse
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That's a real conversation that we should be having, but too many people are afraid to
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Right before the show started, to thank you for taking us over 100,000 subscribers on the
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Clay and Buck YouTube channel, I did a book review segment that is only going to be up
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And I'll give you a little bit of a preview of that.
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But so many of you are interested in good American history, good books to read.
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So I gave two book reviews, and I'm just going to mention them here.
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You guys know I love reading about history, American history in particular.
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I am reading The Fate of the Day, which is volume two of the American Revolution trilogy.
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I'm holding it up just so you can see the cover.
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If you want to hear me talk about it more, you can go to the YouTube channel.
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I'm going to try to do fun things there that are not airing on the radio program.
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I also told you, hey, if you're a mystery, thriller kind of person, which I am, I usually
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have a nonfiction book going at the same time as a fiction book, and I read whichever I'm
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I've mentioned this on the show before, but I just finished Mick Heron, who is a London-based
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I have never watched it, but I can tell you these books are great.
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I grew up reading initially The Hardy Boys, and then it led into Sue Grafton and Robert Parker
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Anyway, if you are a thriller reader, Patricia Cornwell, you name, you guys know all of the
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I gave you good reviews for those, and we're going to do some fun things on YouTube, so
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And for those of you who want to get your popcorn out, we led into a discussion about
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how almost all issues in America today, in my opinion, if you had to go to one root cause,
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White, black, Asian, Hispanic, absent fathers, I think, lead to violent crime.
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And this actually wasn't planned, but it came out of an email that Bo, one of our VIP readers,
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wrote in saying, hey, if we really want to go after violent crime rates, let's prosecute
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And I said my concern there is that actually dads are absent, and you would end up going
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after mom or grandma or maybe even grandpa, who were trying to fill in for the absent dad
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and the person who's the most responsible for everything that is going on will not be
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And let me hit you with this, because I mentioned that I was going to discuss it earlier, right
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President Trump has demanded that there be a new census done.
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And I've talked about this a lot on the program.
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Maybe we'll dive into this a bit more tomorrow.
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But basically, red states would be on tap to add 10 House seats if the census had been
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And that's going to play in big in the Electoral College by the time we get to 2032.
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But they screwed up 2020, so they really should redo the census.
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And that is what President Trump has called for.
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You can check out all original content that is going up there.
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I was fortunate to have my dad in the home as a kid, and my kids have the same good fortune.
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You are spot on about LBJ and the Great Society.
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The government dictates on the programs essentially force dads out in order to access the so-called
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Never have a people paid such a high price for a block of cheese.
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Larry Elder, DeRoy Murdoch, and Jason Reilly have written and spoken extensively on this subject.
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They challenge the black people out there who've been brainwashed by the liberal culture to wake up, grow up, and man up.
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It's a good email from Eric, and I appreciate it.
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Look, it's easy to try to racialize this, and I try to avoid doing that.
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I'm not going to tell you who wrote it because I'm not going to put him on blast.
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But he said, why are you not talking about the fact that this is a huge problem for black men,
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and nobody will talk about it for black men and black families,
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and you're being a coward because you're not focusing enough on race as it pertains to this issue.
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And I'm looking at that email from him right now.
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It wouldn't make me feel better as a white dad if the white crime rate was zero and the black crime rate was 100.
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But if the Hispanic crime rate was zero and the white crime rate was 100,
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What I would argue is kids without dads is a huge American issue.
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Now, I do think that there is a socioeconomic component to this in this larger context.
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I think the government tried to replace poor dads with the government.
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And there's a line, and I think there's some truth to it.
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You can racialize the line, but the way I would put it is when rich people get a cold, poor people get pneumonia.
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If you're black, you probably heard before, when white people get a cold, black people get pneumonia.
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It is true when rich people have small problems, poor people get big problems.
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And so I think you have to be careful when you put government policies in place.
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This is, to me, the essence of Democrat politics.
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They sit around from their gated mansions, and they think, oh, my goodness.
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You know, the real problem with crime in America is the police.
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All the people with money, they've got protection.
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Uganda, he's got a security detail following him everywhere.
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He's not worried about crime happening to him because he's rich enough to have his own security.
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You ever notice that none of those politicians who called to defund the police ever gave up their own personal security details?
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If you think all of us should give up police, how come you need them?
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So many people in America, they talk left and they live right.
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All those media that write at the New York Times, they're married, raising their kids.
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Everybody lecturing you on MSNBC, nuclear families.
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They want to have security for their kids.
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They want private school choice for their kids.
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Why do they lecture you from a left perspective and then live like the most conservative person on the planet in their own life?
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Because the best way to raise a family is a nuclear family.
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But if you try to say, hey, we should do this more.
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Hey, maybe we should put policies in place that actually make dads more likely to be at home.
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As soon as you raise that issue, oh, suddenly they don't want to have that conversation.
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So I think we're looking beyond the obvious, and it's not a black or white thing, Hispanic, Asian, or even a money thing, because there's a lot of very wealthy people who've divorced, and the mother automatically gets the kids, and then we hear the stories about their kids driving very expensive cars and killing their friends.
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You're a lawyer, and you have a lot of colleagues that went into family law.
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I think the perpetuation of divorce lines their pockets.
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Automatically, the mothers always get custody regardless.
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So if we're going to talk about fatherless homes, we need to dig deeper.
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Some of us fathers want to take care of our boys.
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So in Ohio, twice, the senators of the Republican, of the Congress, whoever, pitched this concept, and both times, it was the Ohio Bar Association that shot it down.
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How many of your colleagues went directly to family practice?
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But then they went through their divorce and saw how much they paid an attorney and said, well, I've got to get my money back.
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So I just want to give a shout-out to dads out there that want to be in their kids' lives.
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There's a movement called People Against Parental Alienation.
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There's a young man in the United States who started a website called TUF, the Unmarried Father.
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Are there guys out there that don't want to be in the family?
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Did they hook up one night and get a girl pregnant?
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But there's a lot more of us out there that want to be in our kids' lives, but we're already labeled deadbeats just because we're not in the house.
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Look, I don't – this is why, in general, I think any dad that is fighting to be involved in his kid's life should be involved in his kid's life.
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And I think that there are tons of things in the divorce universe that we have created that incentivizes divorce and often alienates parents in both directions.
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I think there is a religious component to this.
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I think also a decline in religion has led to less men as heads of households and less men who are expecting to take on the responsibility.
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But I think in a divorce context, in an ideal situation, kids would get 50% of time with their dad and 50% of times with their mom.
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Now, I don't want to dive into everybody's individual divorce story, but I do think that one of the – let me just say this as a lawyer.
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One of the consequences of no-fault divorce, right, which is this idea of, hey, there's nobody at fault.
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We just don't want to be married anymore, is that sometimes fault matters.
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We typically don't have no-fault car accidents, right?
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Most people don't want to get into a car accident.
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But if you had a cheap car and you could just run into a Jaguar and you got rewarded because you intentionally caused some sort of an issue,
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They would say, well, you're more responsible for this, and that's the whole point of, like, traffic law, right?
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Hey, who did the – when you say nobody's at fault, a part of me is of the opinion that fault does matter.
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It's very rare that 50% male, 50% female is the reason for the divorce.
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And I'm talking about the financial side, not so much the child and the parenting side.
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But I do think there should be substantial family court processes that would actually go to making things better.
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I'll take some more of your calls when I come back, but I do have empathy and sympathy for dads out there that are trying to be involved in their kids' lives
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that feel like the entire apparatus of the court system is slanted in favor of the moms and they can't actually do anything to help raise their kids.
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That is very frustrating, and I have a great deal of empathy for anybody involved in that process.
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He's got a new book, One Nation Always Under God, Profiles in Christian Courage.
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And, Senator, I appreciate you coming on with me.
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I believe that part of the motivation for this book, according to my team,
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was you seeing Harrison Butker, who is a field goal kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs,
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speaking out about faith and his family relationships.
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Why did that strike you to such a degree, and did that help to motivate you to write this book?
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You know, certainly, I see the attack on Christianity in our country, all over the place.
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And certainly, his story got so much press, I just kept thinking to myself,
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why is it okay to attack the very foundation of the greatest nation on earth and what we were founded upon?
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And I find it to be just utterly ridiculous, Clay, on the attacks that Christianity has to endure.
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And I wanted to do something that highlighted and celebrated strong profiles in Christian courage.
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Why our country is the greatest country on the planet is because of men and women who responded to a call in their heart
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to make something and someone better outside of themselves.
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And I am so thankful that we have professional athletes, rare these days, who take a strong stand for faith,
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not just at the microphone after a game, but literally giving a speech that they wanted to literally take tiny pieces out of that speech
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and find a way to make fun of him and condemn his faith.
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I don't know if you've heard any of the program.
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I'm probably not, you're kind of a busy guy, but we've ended up talking quite a lot today about the decline of fathers.
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And I think it, in the family household, and I think it ties in with the book that you were writing,
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because one reason that might be happening is an absence of religion.
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And a lot of young men are honestly going back to church now.
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I don't think you're a dad yet, but I've got three boys.
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I think all the time about how to raise them to be strong, good parents.
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Why do you think we're struggling to such an extent with young men?
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And how do we get black, white, Asian, Hispanic dads back in the family raising strong young men?
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Well, Clay, I think one of the reasons why President Trump has endorsed the book,
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One Nation Always Under God, is because I focus really on that subject matter by telling my own story of growing up in a single-parent household.
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It was so casual when you said it, but it was powerful in my ears.
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One of the scriptures I'm really excited about is Proverbs 27, 17, that says,
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Iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens the other.
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The best way to do that, Clay, is to have a father in the household.
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You just said very casually that you are there for your three sons.
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Seventy-two to seventy-four percent, the numbers escape me, of African-American boys do not have their father in the household.
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Forty percent of white working-class families do not have a father in the household.
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That does not tell about the future we want in this nation.
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And so you covering fatherhood and the importance of a male role model in the house
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is undeniably the most important thing we can do to get this nation back on track, except for faith.
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Family is the most powerful single unit in the nation.
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Upon those two, you build an objective standard.
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Without that very important building block called the family, we as a nation, we don't work.
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And we don't work without a faith-filled foundation upon which all things stand.
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So I can spend as much time as you want to on the importance that a father plays in the household.
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I just became a honest dad, Clay, just a year ago.
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I have three kids that I've inherited by getting married.
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And I've got to tell you, it changes your focus to the future.
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It reminds you of the importance of a value system.
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And it underscores why one nation always under God and these profiles in Christian courage
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is something that has as much to do about the future as it illuminates the past.
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One of the things that we talked about is you think about things only getting better in the country, right?
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We want everybody's generation to be better than it was before.
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But you and I, if we went back to 1950, you just ran through some of those statistics.
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I know there would have been fewer Asian and Hispanic households,
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but certainly a lot of white and black households.
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You yourself just said you didn't have a father in the household.
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This has been an issue that's gone on for a long time.
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It's one thing if we were getting a little bit better every year,
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but this is one of those things where you look back and you say,
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70 years ago, kids growing up in America were more likely to have a dad in the household.
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I don't even see this as remotely political because I think every kid is way better off
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Well, number one, we need to remind men of their responsibility and not in fathering a child,
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You know, if you think about what a father provides, for me, the lack of a father made me very disillusioned
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about who I would be growing up, what I could become, someone to teach me how to drive,
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how to shave, that person was absent, and it makes everything more difficult.
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I'm thankful that I became a Christian at a very young age, and I found the father figure
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And as a result, I could go to Ephesians 2 and read about certain attributes or characteristics
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I could go to Galatians 3, 28, and see that I was adopted into this whole family called
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But to make it practical in everyday American households, number one, the man needs to understand
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The way that we encourage both, I think, is by reminding men of that importance.
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I spoke at a men's group about two Saturdays ago with a couple hundred men in the room,
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and I talked about you can be a male without being a man.
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A male just tells you who you are from a DNA perspective.
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Being a man, there are attributes and characteristics that come with being a man.
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Being responsible, being accountable, being self-sacrificing, serving, not just leading.
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It may be having a good time on Saturday nights but not showing up on Sunday mornings.
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Being a man says you show up Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.
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The book is One Nation, Always Under God, Profiles in Christian Courage.
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We're talking to Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina.
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Who's going to be better this year, South Carolina or Clemson?
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I can already tell that's a good politician answer to start with.
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Listen, for those of you who don't know, let me tell people.
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South Carolina Gamecocks expect to be very good.
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The biggest rivalry in the state of South Carolina.
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I know the polls suggest that Clemson's going to be better.
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As a lifelong Gamecocks fan, yes, I'm a crazy politician.
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I'm just going to tell you the truth and where I stand.
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The Gamecocks are going to have a better season.
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I know it because Shane Beamer, he's the man, the myth, and he will be the legend.
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And as a result of that, he will coach his team to a 9-3 record.
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And the Clemson Tigers, they're going to stumble a couple times, and they will end up around 8-4, 8-3.
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The difference, of course, is we play in the SEC, they play in the ACC.
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I didn't think you would pick a side, so I'm impressed.
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Yes, but I love Shane Beamer, really good dude, the head coach at South Carolina.
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Lenora Sellers, for those of you out there who do not know, fabulous quarterback for South Carolina.
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What should people know about him getting ready for about three weeks from now when Tomey's leather?
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You know, interestingly enough, he turned down more NIL money this day at Carolina than he could have gotten,
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That tells me, number one, he's a South Carolina boy born in Brad.
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Number two, he's committed, which is an unusual characteristic we'd like to see in fathers as well, by the way.
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And number three, he has a strong run game, but he's been improving his pass game.
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And that, to me, is a quintessential quarterback, can scramble, but thread the needle.
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I don't want him to run too much because that's how you get injured.
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I want him to stay in the pocket, scramble a little bit, and hit the receiver who's running a 10 and out or a goal post.
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And when that happens, I think we'll have a good season.
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I know I was critical of my Clemson Tigers, and I'm going to have some emails coming in about that.
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But I've got to just tell you, I love Dabo, and Jim Clemson is the best president,
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and a university president in all of America, Clemson's president.
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But at the end of the day, a man's got to be where a man has been his whole life,
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You know, I actually think, and I know there's a lot of politicians,
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and I'm sure you've seen it in your career for sure,
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who try to thread the needle and avoid picking a side.
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I actually think sports fans appreciate someone who picks a side more
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because the traditional politician tries to avoid it.
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You've got an open invite anytime you want to come on and keep up the fighting.
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