On today's show, we honor the 5th anniversary of Rush Limbaugh's passing, and celebrate the life and career of Clay T. Travis, who served as a radio host for over 30 years. He also discusses his new book, "Manufacturing Delusion: How the Left Uses Brainwashing, Indoctrination, and Propaganda Against You," which is out now in bookstores everywhere.
00:03:46.180But, Clay, I bring this up because this audience, and it is, I know it's the five-year anniversary of Rush's passing.
00:03:51.500This is the house that Rush built, and we try to be the best custodians we possibly can every day and serve you, this audience that Rush Limbaugh served for 30 years.
00:04:29.340Very few people actually write their books, which is a whole other thing, too.
00:04:32.600A lot of people churn out, book, book, book, book, and it's fine, but there's a little name on the front cover usually below their name that's actually the person who did all the writing and research.
00:04:41.660I actually wrote this book as Clay writes his books.
00:05:07.600If a sufficient number of us and a sufficient number of states choose to ignore the evidence that, as the Bible says,
00:05:15.220those with eyes to see and ears to hear can detect, then we have no excuse.
00:05:21.080We might have an explanation, which is that for a series of reasons, people are not holding the Republican Party and the nominee of that party to rational account.
00:05:32.000And I think that this is a test of citizenship in a way that certainly you'd have to go back, I think, to both the 19th century and the civil rights era to find anything equivalent.
00:05:43.980Yeah, it's just like the Civil War all over again.
00:05:47.720If you voted for Trump, you're on the wrong side of it.
00:05:49.520That guy has a book out today, which is crap, by the way.
00:05:54.080It's just a bunch of him talking about other people's essays.
00:05:56.960But I can tell you, the lib, intelligentsia, the literati, the literary apparatus, they're all behind it.
00:06:04.280That book has to be number one or it's a failure.
00:06:07.780You listening to this can help me beat the book today.
00:06:09.820You want the smug lib who hates Trump, thinks that you're on the wrong side of the Civil War if you voted for him, and the wrong side of the Civil Rights Act, and thinks Trump is a Nazi.
00:06:19.300You want his book to be number one or you want my book to be number one?
00:06:36.560Buy a book, if you would, please, for me today.
00:06:38.440Do me this solid, and that is the way that you can show the libs that the right still reads, we still care, and we're not letting some smug anti-Trumper get the number one.
00:06:50.460Clay, thank you for letting me make my pitch to this incredible audience of patriots and great Americans who I know are right now going on that Amazon order page or wherever they go.
00:07:16.940A lot of you who pre-ordered will get it today, but it can get shipped out as quick as a day in many different places out there and obviously bookstores all across America.
00:07:27.020And I did the audio book at your suggestion, by the way.
00:07:29.580I actually recorded the audio book myself.
00:07:31.520So if you download the audio book, it's me reading it to you.
00:08:16.820And I hate that this story is out there and continues to be out there, but it has become, unfortunately, an awful trend.
00:08:26.400Nashville, Tennessee, my hometown, trans person shoots up a Christian school, kills a bunch of innocent people.
00:08:34.860Minneapolis, trans shooter shoots up an actual church service, kills a bunch of innocent people.
00:08:42.160And now you see in Rhode Island, well, we just had last week in Canada, a trans shooter killed a ton of people in a school-related shooting.
00:08:57.300And now, during a high school hockey game, a guy who was pretending to be a woman shot and killed two people, wounded, I believe, three, and killed himself as well.
00:09:12.860And I don't even know, as a society, how we can avoid having real conversations now, just as reasonable people about what is going on.
00:09:27.080But the dishonesty in the media is crazy.
00:09:30.340This is the New York Times, how they covered it.
00:09:34.280At a news conference on Monday night, Chief Goncalves said, this is in the Providence, Rhode Island area, I believe, said the shooter was born in 1969 and went by two different names.
00:09:51.440They don't even say this was a man who decided to identify as a woman.
00:11:48.980Now, what happens if you have mutilated your genitalia because you listened to the American Medical Association and all these different groups and the doctors and the big hospitals and CNN and the New York Times editorial page and all this?
00:12:06.260And you turn around and some goes, no, this was all a lie.
00:12:09.360You're already dealing with a person who is deeply unstable and mentally ill.
00:12:13.680And then you tell them that they've ruined their lives.
00:12:27.180And I mean people, whether it's in the news, Clay, or law enforcement or doctors who are supposed to be able to diagnose these things or understand them.
00:13:33.820And so what we have done in an act of intended empathy is actually, I think, made people who are ill that much more ill.
00:13:45.620And unfortunately now, Buck, what you're seeing is, did you see this guy say in response to the trans congresswoman, congressman, whatever the dude is, that is pretending to be a chick in Congress, he said, if you don't affirm our genders, we're going to go berserk.
00:14:03.720The day before he went and killed a bunch of people.
00:14:07.180So we've now created a world where if you question someone's gender identity, they believe they are entitled, some of them, to engage in violence against others as a way to speak out against not being accepted.
00:14:24.280Now, I just think this is going to get worse.
00:14:26.940Unfortunately, we have created this entire trans world and these people, and I think partly Buck, it's the drugs that they take are committing acts of mass violence on a scale that is unprecedented when you consider how small the population actually is.
00:14:49.240Keep bashing us, keep bashing us is what he tweeted, but do not wonder why we go all caps berserk as his comment yesterday before he showed up at a high school hockey match and started attacking people.
00:15:48.040Some of them just choose evil and that's, and they're just ideologically aligned.
00:15:52.140And again, I know that this is, sounds like I'm all setting stuff for the book, but this is why I talk about, this is what I talk about in Manufacturing Delusion, because people are doing this to people.
00:16:00.820The whole trans thing was, there's a system.
00:16:06.060This is, this is being created by an apparatus that views this as important for the projection of power, important for the projection of an ideology.
00:16:19.540And that's why, Clay, I mean, you can't even believe this stuff.
00:16:23.140When you see the graph, the graphs of how many kids now identify as transgender or not, it's up like thousands of a percentile.
00:20:00.060They're saying, oh, unless you change policies on how you go get people who are in this country illegally, we're going to shut the government down, which is exactly what they did.
00:20:09.780But they forget to address – and you guys were talking about this last week and doing a great job – until they address the sanctuary jurisdiction crazy policies that are out there, I don't know how you get a handle on it.
00:20:24.220Because what's happened in now almost a third of the country, 18 cities, 11 states, three counties, and the District of Columbia representing 31 percent of the population of our great country.
00:20:35.340So in roughly a third of the country, left-wing political officials tell their local law enforcement don't work with federal law enforcement.
00:20:44.500When you have in your jail, in your detention center, an illegal migrant who's also been charged with some other crime, when a detainer is sent there from the federal government saying just, hey, if you're going to release this guy, let us know.
00:20:58.480We'll come pick him up there at the jail or at the detention center.
00:21:01.880But instead they say, no, we're going to release him to the streets.
00:21:04.540And 17,000 times that we know of, bad guys were released to the streets in one year's time, 2025, and many of them went out and did crimes.
00:21:14.920I mean, one guy was released, and the very next day he killed an individual who was under a detainer.
00:21:19.940So until we address that, I don't know how you solve this because that whole policy creates this environment, this framework, where you get the bad things that have happened, the tragic things that happened like we saw up in Minneapolis.
00:21:33.300We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan.
00:21:35.880Congressman, appreciate you coming on.
00:21:37.320You just – we had a conversation about this, and I think it's really important for people out there.
00:21:42.500Supremacy clause says that the federal government gets to make decisions on immigration.
00:21:47.960You and I talked about this, but I want to hammer it home here.
00:21:52.740You probably came on and talked about it with us, and I know a lot of people in Texas came on and talked about it.
00:21:57.580The fact that Texas wanted to secure their border, and the court said Texas can't do it because a state cannot make immigration policy the federal government does.
00:22:08.160I don't understand, and I think it's a really easy legal argument to tie together, why Texas couldn't take that act.
00:22:15.280And all of these, as you just said, 31% of the country, states, cities and states that are blue, think that they can basically implement their own immigration policy.
00:22:25.380I think the courts have to make this determination.
00:22:28.300Great point, and we're going to try to help them by passing legislation out of our committee next week, which would address that fact and say, no, no, federal law preempts.
00:22:36.080And if you have a state that says – let's say you've got a county in California that says, no, we're a conservative.
00:22:40.320Our sheriff, we want to work with federal law enforcement in the situation I just described.
00:22:45.040And they say, well, no, no, you can't do that because of state law.
00:22:46.860We want to be able to say, no, if that county sheriff or that county jurisdiction wants to work with the federal government, they can go ahead, and we will step in and represent them and defend them if, in fact, the state comes after them.
00:22:58.500So that's part of what we want to pass in our bill next week, not to mention if you're one of these states and you have sanctuary city policies, there should be some ramifications in the federal funding that comes in certain grant programs to your state.
00:23:10.040And then finally, we want to put in the bill as well, if you're a family or an individual who's been harmed by someone who was let out, who should have been not released to the streets but released to ICE, if they let that individual out and they do something harmful to you or your family, you have a private right of action.
00:23:28.080That's the only way I can see that we can address this problem and deal with what, again, 31.5 percent of the United States population is living under as we speak.
00:23:55.700What do you feel like are the top issues?
00:23:58.040Obviously, Trump administration is dialing in here on the economy, affordability, but also able to look at some pretty impressive numbers on GDP.
00:24:06.380And, obviously, the stock market has been rocketing up.
00:24:10.000So what do you see as the central – is it just going to be the economy, immigration, election?
00:24:14.880Is health care going to play a bigger role as you move along?
00:24:50.880It's crazy to say you want to abolish ICE.
00:24:52.380It's crazy not to have a border, which is all the things that were taking place under the previous administration.
00:24:56.580It's crazy to shut down the government for 43 days.
00:24:58.580It's crazy to have this sanctuary city policy where you release bad guys onto the street who do harm to people in those communities when you could have turned them over to federal law enforcement.
00:25:09.140So I think we have to remind the voters of that as we move forward.
00:25:13.080And then also underscore, I do think the economy is improving.
00:25:16.460We had 4.3 percent growth last quarter.
00:25:27.300We're going to have the debate and the people get to decide.
00:25:30.220But I feel like we've got a good story to tell, particularly when we also remind the voters, remember what happens when the left's in charge.
00:25:37.500We can go back to that if they win this mid-tour.
00:25:40.860I think this is an important argument you just made.
00:25:43.420And let me give you an example that I think you're going to be nodding your head at because it's just across the Potomac from where you are.
00:25:49.480Abigail Spanberger got elected in Virginia.
00:25:51.620She ran 100 percent as a moderate, as a no-nonsense mom who just wants to be a normal leader.
00:26:14.280She, in one month, has demonstrated that she is actually a radical leftist.
00:26:19.200I like what you said, Jim, because Trump is maybe the most transactional president that we've ever seen in that he said, here's the list of things I'm going to do.
00:26:41.240And you could add to that list of what Governor Spanberger is focused on, too, is taking away people's Second Amendment rights in the state of Virginia.
00:26:47.260So it just she ran as the, quote, moderate governor who is, you know, had a background in the CIA and working in the military.
00:26:54.480She ran as that individual and gets in and does all the left-wing things.
00:26:57.980And you're right on the on the redistricting.
00:27:00.260They're looking to take a six, five, six Democrats, five Republicans in Virginia to 10 to one.
00:27:06.140And they got all this this these spider, you know, these links coming out from northern Virginia all over the state.
00:27:11.660So, yeah, that that I think, again, remind the voters this is who the left is.
00:27:16.200And the left now controls the Democrat Party and they will go for all these all these crazy policies.
00:27:23.500I still maybe we talked about this before, but Sarah Huckabee Sanders a few years ago, I use this all the time, but I thought it was well done.
00:27:29.220And she gave the response to the State of the Union and her best line was when she said the divide in America today is normal versus crazy.
00:27:36.340And you can go down the list of all the crazy policies the left has.
00:27:39.540I think it's always important to remind the voters that that's the case.
00:27:42.880And when you do, the vast majority of voters are common sense people and they'll elect Republicans.
00:27:47.880Congressman, to that to that end of normal versus crazy, we started off the show talking about the horrific shooting in Rhode Island involving a clearly.
00:28:00.180I mean, you just look at a photo of the guy.
00:28:05.500Kills his own family, the whole thing, a horrible, horrible situation, horrible story.
00:28:08.660We know that there have been a series of these shootings, shootings, you know, high profile mass murder shootings involving these individuals who are psychotic and who are, you know, self-identify as trans and the whole thing.
00:28:21.920Do Democrat colleagues in Congress really believe this transgender ideology stuff on in on the on the whole in general, or are they just too scared of the 10 to 15 percent of the radical left of their party?
00:28:40.600Like, I'm just wondering if you can give us some context here for, you know, does Hakeem Jeffries really think there's no difference between a man and a woman that babies are assigned gender at birth?
00:28:49.100Does he believe that if you sit down over tea with him or coffee or whatever?
00:28:53.660Is he like, yeah, babies get assigned gender at birth?
00:28:55.720Because I want to see Congressman Jeffrey say that if he believes that.
00:29:00.060Yeah, I think the vast majority don't believe that.
00:29:02.240But I think, again, we're back to the energy in their part.
00:29:10.200Has embraced this, you know, this whole transgender thing and a host of other crazy policies.
00:29:26.520Again, it's just like time and time again, we see these these crazy things happen and the left will go defend the transgender policies out there that that seem to be part of this.
00:29:54.220So I'll click it on and watch a little bit of it.
00:29:56.560And then, of course, the controversy, you know, that was unbelievable.
00:29:59.140Like his what his finger, I think it was the Canadian or I forget what team, like his finger touched an extra little push or a little spin or something like, wow, go, go, go figure.