Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jan 20 2026

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00:00:04.200 Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show.

00:00:10.360 Congratulations to the University of Indiana Hoosiers on their glorious victory last night.

00:00:19.260 I was there with Clay watching the national championship game.

00:00:22.500 Our president, Mr. Trump, President Trump was there.

00:00:25.860 And it was quite a scene.

00:00:27.800 We'll give you some of the highlights from it.

00:00:30.520 And it was amazing to watch Indiana turn a home game for Miami into a home game for Indiana.

00:00:38.440 Because that is what that stadium felt like.

00:00:40.420 It was a sea of red.

00:00:42.740 Very polite.

00:00:43.600 I said, Indiana fans are all very nice.

00:00:45.640 Very, like, smiley.

00:00:47.600 And, you know, they turned around.

00:00:49.100 I don't think they realized I'm a Miami native.

00:00:50.680 So technically I'm supposed to be all about Miami.

00:00:53.060 But you all saw that game, I'm sure, last night.

00:00:55.340 It was actually a very good game.

00:00:56.920 I had Mr. Clay here explaining to me the various players.

00:00:59.500 And what was going on.

00:01:00.780 So we had a great time with that.

00:01:02.500 It is the beginning of year two of the Trump administration.

00:01:06.920 Because it is the one-year anniversary of the inauguration.

00:01:11.020 So year one in the books.

00:01:13.580 Some great wins on the board, I think, already.

00:01:17.700 Which we'll be discussing a bit.

00:01:19.360 And then some other things that are still certainly major challenges to look at, to deal with.

00:01:25.280 And we have, Clay, today, one of those, I think, that we could circle and dive into straight away.

00:01:33.640 Greenland.

00:01:34.500 Yes.

00:01:35.280 Who would have thought?

00:01:37.080 Who would have thought that this place, that generally doesn't get much in the way of press or thought or anyone talking about it,

00:01:46.160 it's quite large and quite sparsely inhabited.

00:01:51.460 Who would have thought that this would become the center of an international imbroglio?

00:01:57.920 Can I say that?

00:01:58.260 Well said.

00:01:58.940 I love that word.

00:01:59.620 Thank you.

00:01:59.940 Thank you.

00:02:01.120 It is definitely causing a hullabaloo.

00:02:04.060 You have various heads of state who are getting quite huffy.

00:02:09.340 And the Wall Street Journal here writing that Trump doubles down on Greenland ahead of Davos' arrival.

00:02:17.700 He is making it a thing that does not just go away.

00:02:22.480 I do believe at some point we might have to do a show from Greenland and go check out the Greenlanders ourselves.

00:02:26.640 But we'll put a pin in that for now.

00:02:27.980 So here, if you want to know how Trump feels about the whole situation, here it is.

00:02:32.820 This is cut two, talking about why does this belong to the people that it has belonged to?

00:02:38.960 Play two.

00:02:39.360 What do you plan to say to the European leaders in Davos when they push back on your Greenland plan?

00:02:44.660 Well, I don't think they're going to push back too much.

00:02:47.060 We have to have it.

00:02:48.780 They have to have this done.

00:02:50.680 They can't protect it.

00:02:51.940 Denmark, they're wonderful people.

00:02:53.500 And I know the leaders, they're very good people, but they don't even go there.

00:02:59.780 And, you know, because a vote went there 500 years ago and then left, that doesn't give you title to property.

00:03:06.720 So we'll be talking about it with the various people.

00:03:10.300 Clay, he is not backing off this at all.

00:03:16.020 In fact, he's making it a front and center issue at Davos.

00:03:19.220 The prediction markets, which are becoming more and more of a narrative defining prospect in pretty much all facets of life.

00:03:28.040 This morning, Buck, I was looking 47% chance that Trump takes control of some part of the country of Greenland.

00:03:37.380 Now, again, that's the way that this is phrased at some point in 2026, basically 50-50.

00:03:45.200 When this all started, do you remember when we started talking about this and everybody sort of treated it as sort of a outlandish joke

00:03:52.320 that was not actually in any way likely to occur, now we have moved into the could-this-happen phase.

00:04:01.740 And this is a lot of times what Trump does, right?

00:04:04.200 He throws something out there that people think is outrageous, that they think is outlandish,

00:04:09.560 that they think there is no way it could ever happen.

00:04:12.300 And then he just stays maniacally fixated on it.

00:04:16.120 But it remains in his purview, and he keeps advancing closer and closer to it.

00:04:22.580 And I know he would probably argue this is a part of the art of the deal,

00:04:26.240 because if you start with aggressive posturing that seems highly unlikely,

00:04:31.800 then at some point a middle ground that would have seemed unlikely starts to feel like a compromised position,

00:04:38.660 if that makes sense.

00:04:39.520 And so I don't know exactly how this is going to shake out.

00:04:45.520 For all the reading that I've done, Buck, the treaty that we have in place with Greenland right now,

00:04:50.940 which was primarily enforced and utilized during World War II,

00:04:54.600 is actually quite expansive in terms of the rights that it would give to the United States

00:04:59.360 in terms of military bases, access to the land.

00:05:02.480 I think what Trump really wants, though, is complete and total control,

00:05:06.260 because he wants the long-running value of the minerals.

00:05:09.280 I think he's looking at Alaska as the precept when it was initially ridiculed

00:05:13.480 and now ends up looking like a brilliant decision by Seward.

00:05:16.320 One of the greatest deals of all time.

00:05:18.020 Back in 1867.

00:05:19.720 Louisiana Purchase, probably the greatest land deal in all history, I think.

00:05:24.460 That's fair to say.

00:05:25.280 Yes.

00:05:26.260 Seward's Icebox, which is what they called, or Seward's Folly.

00:05:29.340 I think they called it both.

00:05:30.880 I knew he was going to say.

00:05:31.980 It was close enough to the Civil War that I'm on top of this.

00:05:34.480 I was going to say, Civil War Clay over here is not going to let that one slide.

00:05:37.340 But that was also one of the best land deals ever made.

00:05:42.140 And this is, I think, a pretty straightforward process,

00:05:45.700 because here's the problem that the Danes have with all this.

00:05:48.800 By the way, they used to call it Thule Air Base in Greenland.

00:05:52.300 That's the U.S. space base that's there.

00:05:55.120 I'm sorry.

00:05:55.500 Now it's Pitufik, never heard of it before, space base.

00:06:00.900 Pitufik space base, formerly Thule Air Base.

00:06:03.780 So I guess it was an Air Force base, and now it is a Space Force base.

00:06:08.700 So we do have a military presence there.

00:06:12.540 You've got space surveillance missions for NORAD, stuff like that.

00:06:16.540 You've got U.S. Air Force, Space Force, civilian contractors,

00:06:19.320 a couple hundred troops there.

00:06:20.320 So on a landmass that size, a couple hundred troops is a tiny, tiny situation.

00:06:25.020 He wants sovereignty, to your point.

00:06:26.980 He wants the ability to do whatever America thinks is in its interest there

00:06:31.200 when it comes to defense, when it comes to minerals, it comes to, you know,

00:06:35.020 there's some people who argue at some point glaciers and access to that fresh water

00:06:38.960 could become more interesting and important.

00:06:41.100 I think that's quite a ways in the future.

00:06:42.480 But I'm just saying these are the things that are under consideration.

00:06:46.420 And he's pushing this. 0.59

00:06:49.660 The Europeans did something that I thought was silly. 1.00

00:06:53.180 And Trump was asked about this last night.

00:06:55.780 Remember, he was at the game, and as he does, spoke to members of the press yesterday.

00:07:01.040 Here he is.

00:07:01.960 This is cut three.

00:07:03.560 Because NATO sent token forces to Greenland as some kind of,

00:07:09.340 yeah, it's ours, back off, like a brushback pitch,

00:07:12.540 but it did not have the intended effect.

00:07:14.380 Play three.

00:07:14.820 You said securing the Arctic's Russian threat to support you. 0.80

00:07:18.700 Why are you upset about NATO allies, thinking that, you know,

00:07:21.700 more seriously in Greenland by holding military exercises?

00:07:25.140 Well, that wasn't a military.

00:07:26.760 They sent a few people.

00:07:28.400 And they say they sent them not for me, but to guard against Russia. 0.66

00:07:33.380 But, you know, NATO's been warning Denmark for about 20 years now,

00:07:38.180 longer than that, 25 years.

00:07:40.220 They've been warning Denmark about the Russian threat.

00:07:43.600 And it's not only Russia, it's also China.

00:07:46.980 So we'll see what happens.

00:07:48.560 But let's put it this way.

00:07:50.840 It's going to be a very interesting Davos.

00:07:54.180 Very interesting Davos.

00:07:56.700 By the way, I've never heard that phrase before.

00:07:58.940 I've certainly never heard it from Trump.

00:08:01.180 Clay, he's making this the front and center issue for this conference going on in Switzerland this week,

00:08:08.300 of international who's who and what's what.

00:08:11.100 Yeah, and look, I don't know if you saw this, but I know we have the audio because I was just checking to make sure.

00:08:16.260 Gavin Newsom is at Davos right now.

00:08:19.260 And here is Gavin Newsom.

00:08:22.420 I'll play this for a sec, but first, Buck, did you see Emmanuel Macron address Davos wearing sunglasses?

00:08:30.580 This is like the Bono thing now.

00:08:32.260 Bono has some eye condition, they say, so he has to wear red sunglasses all the time.

00:08:36.220 Is that what this guy's going to say?

00:08:38.460 Sunglasses indoors?

00:08:39.880 You need an explanation.

00:08:40.880 I did Macron's wife slap him again.

00:08:43.440 Remember we saw when he was about to get off the plane and she grabbed him in the face and they were like,

00:08:47.640 oh, we were just joking, ha-ha.

00:08:49.540 Maybe Macron's wife is stronger than people think. 0.74

00:08:51.520 Yeah, maybe so.

00:08:52.960 Here is Gavin Newsom.

00:08:55.120 Might have quite the right hook. 0.71

00:08:56.640 Gavin Newsom saying he's calling out world leaders.

00:09:02.140 California's governor has traveled to Davos.

00:09:04.860 Cut 19.

00:09:05.920 This was a little bit earlier today.

00:09:07.340 It's time to get serious and stop being complicit.

00:09:11.220 It's time to stand tall and firm and have a backbone.

00:09:14.880 I've seen this in the United States.

00:09:16.320 It's the supine Congress playing both sides.

00:09:19.100 You know, say one thing on a text or a tweet and another publicly.

00:09:22.600 It's time to have principles.

00:09:24.740 It's time to stand strong.

00:09:26.140 Fall and strong.

00:09:26.880 Does that mean responding with tariffs?

00:09:28.100 I wasn't the time to stand united.

00:09:29.180 You make that determination.

00:09:30.520 I don't make that determination.

00:09:31.720 But when you say standing strong, what do you mean?

00:09:33.420 Just I can't take this complicity.

00:09:35.400 People rolling over.

00:09:37.020 I should have brought up a bunch of knee pads for all the world leaders. 0.99

00:09:40.460 I mean, handing out crowns and handing out, I mean, this is pathetic. 0.96

00:09:44.000 Nobel Prizes, they're being given away. 0.99

00:09:46.860 I mean, it's just pathetic. 0.99

00:09:48.860 And I hope people understand how pathetic they look. 0.99

00:09:53.080 There's your Democrat 2028 nominee. 0.99

00:09:55.800 Are there already bets being placed on this one?

00:09:58.620 Because I feel very confident on the Democrat side.

00:10:01.140 When I saw it, first of all, Gavin Newsom feels like he's playing evil Keanu Reeves.

00:10:06.920 When I hear him talk now, it just sounds like he's an actor pretending with that voice.

00:10:11.360 Maybe he's got a little bit more of a cold than normal.

00:10:14.280 I guarantee you, Buck, that Gavin Newsom has been furious that Tim Walz and Jacob Fry in Minneapolis have managed to push themselves into the chief opposition to Donald Trump.

00:10:26.640 And they have knocked him off the newspaper front pages outside of the opens of television shows.

00:10:32.380 And I think he made a calculated decision.

00:10:33.840 By the way, saying world leaders are in knee pads?

00:10:36.080 But it's a visual that...

00:10:39.060 Even for evil Keanu coming off the slopes, where, by the way, he's a triple black diamond guy.

00:10:45.040 Even for Gavin Newsom, that's a pretty aggressive take.

00:10:49.140 And I will say there's a lot of public condemnation from Donald Trump, from European leaders, and they say all sorts of things.

00:10:55.840 But he's not wrong about when they actually see him face-to-face.

00:10:59.960 There's never any opposition that is brought to bear direct, if that makes any sense.

00:11:05.220 So I'm curious if that might change at all at Davos, whether we're going to get any fireworks starting tomorrow.

00:11:11.180 But it's apparently pronounced Tuli Air Force Base, which I didn't know.

00:11:16.220 But some of these pronunciations, because they're localized, can be very tough.

00:11:19.600 Like, in Turkish, it's injerlik, not inserlik.

00:11:23.620 So, you know...

00:11:24.220 I have no hope to pronounce any of these words.

00:11:26.480 I'm not even going to try.

00:11:27.340 Yeah, that's the big Turkish airbase we've got going on.

00:11:29.980 So anyway, yeah, I guess they speak Greenlandish or something?

00:11:35.640 Because the native...

00:11:36.280 I'm not talking about...

00:11:37.080 Obviously, there's people there that speak English and they speak Danish.

00:11:39.700 But I think that they must have a native...

00:11:43.040 The people of Greenland, if you're talking about the overall population there,

00:11:50.080 are essentially like what we would think of as Eskimos.

00:11:52.540 Yes.

00:11:52.780 And I know that the Eskimos won, and there's Inuit, and there's all these other...

00:11:56.020 And our Alaska affiliates and our listeners, you guys know all this stuff.

00:12:00.280 I don't.

00:12:01.460 But that's what they are.

00:12:04.400 They're like sort of native peoples, mostly.

00:12:07.580 So this also raises the question, though, of if they want to go, who's to say no?

00:12:14.560 This is really the fundamental question that I think Trump raises here, which is...

00:12:18.900 Look, I don't think...

00:12:20.420 Trump is being...

00:12:21.040 He's posturing a little bit.

00:12:22.440 We're not sending in a marine expeditionary force to like seize Nook, which is the capital

00:12:29.280 city, okay?

00:12:29.960 We're not...

00:12:30.520 Yes.

00:12:30.720 And maybe I'm pronouncing that one wrong, too.

00:12:32.600 I'm working on my Greenlandish.

00:12:34.500 But we're not going to do that.

00:12:36.660 But we are going to make a deal.

00:12:38.100 We're going to negotiate a deal.

00:12:39.460 That's what Trump is saying.

00:12:40.680 There's only 50,000 people here.

00:12:42.280 This isn't that hard.

00:12:43.440 50,000 people.

00:12:44.960 This is like a...

00:12:45.560 This is a small mayor's race kind of election in America.

00:12:49.100 This is not some big challenge in terms of if these people, Clay, if they want sovereign...

00:12:54.780 You know, if they want to take their sovereignty and put it into America's hands in some kind 0.68

00:12:58.740 of an agreement, who is Europe to say no?

00:13:01.200 They can't.

00:13:02.100 And I mean, I think that's where this negotiation is going to go.

00:13:05.180 So there is an opportunity, potentially, for each of those natives of Greenland to be paid 0.87

00:13:11.640 just straightforwardly in a certain dollar figure.

00:13:16.340 I don't know what it is.

00:13:17.260 200K, 100K.

00:13:19.200 U.S.

00:13:19.940 Maybe they want gold.

00:13:22.120 And if they vote to allow themselves to be connected to the United States, they become

00:13:26.720 a territory.

00:13:27.620 And look, the territorial law is quite clear.

00:13:30.460 I'm a lawyer still in the U.S. Virgin Islands territory.

00:13:33.420 You've talked about Guam.

00:13:34.440 I didn't know that territorial law would necessarily be that useful, but United States

00:13:38.460 Virgin Islands is the last place that the U.S. purchased with gold, $25 million in gold

00:13:44.260 in 1917.

00:13:45.520 And so there is historical precedent and court law that deals with how territorial law is

00:13:51.900 applied.

00:13:53.220 And Greenland would clearly be able to fit within that category.

00:13:57.380 Yeah, it's just interesting to me as well, because you have these Europeans who are saying 0.66

00:14:00.600 Greenland is not for sale.

00:14:02.360 Well, says a bunch of guys hundreds and hundreds of miles away in a different continent, a different

00:14:08.440 people, a different, you know, says who?

00:14:10.780 Yeah, I think it's and now they could say, oh, well, under agreement with the EU.

00:14:14.040 Okay, well, Trump is saying, let's amend that agreement.

00:14:16.820 Let's amend that agreement based upon the will.

00:14:19.460 Look, if it's very clear, the Greenland, the Greenlanders, that much, I think I did get

00:14:24.260 right.

00:14:24.740 I was going to say the Greenlandians.

00:14:26.180 I'm sure we found out all about what is a mini, mini, miniopolitans.

00:14:30.900 Yeah.

00:14:31.120 Which is no one.

00:14:31.720 I know one from Minneapolis calls himself a miniapolitan.

00:14:34.820 We got absolutely deluged with people saying that that was a totally made up concept.

00:14:40.120 Oh, gosh.

00:14:40.980 Miniapolitan.

00:14:41.520 No way.

00:14:42.160 By the way, as we go to break, a little bit of breaking news for you guys.

00:14:45.500 Trump is going to join a White House press briefing on the one year anniversary of his

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00:14:55.300 So I bet that we will be getting a lot of news from that.

00:14:59.540 And maybe we'll go take it live as well.

00:15:01.460 Yeah, the Trumpster, I think that's a very high probability you're going to be hearing

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00:17:26.360 Welcome in.

00:17:27.220 Hour number two.

00:17:28.000 Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show.

00:17:30.020 We are awaiting President Trump and Caroline Levitt on the one-year anniversary of Trump 2.0.

00:17:37.860 What has the first year accomplished?

00:17:40.140 What do we think about that?

00:17:41.820 Trump is now in the communication, the sales pitch aspect of his presidency, as we move towards what will, frankly, be the last election that is, in many ways, a referendum directly on President Trump's leadership.

00:17:56.480 After, from 2015, when he came down the escalator for the first time, to 2026, the Trump era of effectively 11 years.

00:18:06.720 Now, you can say 2028 will be potentially for the Republican candidate, if it is J.D. Vance, if it is Marco Rubio, somewhat of a referendum of Trump himself.

00:18:17.260 But he will not be on the ballot in any way in 2028.

00:18:22.140 So, the last real time that Trump has a referendum on his leadership, on his presidency, will be the midterms.

00:18:30.820 And so, we are now into the sell-the-job-that-you-have-done stage of Trump 2.0.

00:18:36.960 And I mentioned these stats, but I want to hit you with them right off the top here.

00:18:40.900 Because I do think that the challenge is making everyone aware of the promises that he has delivered on.

00:18:48.880 And I would say, number one, the most significant accomplishment of President Trump, Buck, is the secure border.

00:18:55.340 And it's so successful that nobody even talks about the border anymore.

00:19:00.580 So, for a decade, we talked about, hey, we should build a wall.

00:19:03.900 Hey, we should have a secure border.

00:19:05.480 Biden opens the border.

00:19:06.800 Everybody comes across, 10 million-plus people.

00:19:08.960 Trump gets in.

00:19:10.340 One month later, we have the most secure border in the history of the United States.

00:19:14.220 The second thing that I would say is probably the most significant of his accomplishments so far is record high stock prices.

00:19:21.720 And you could say, oh, that really only impacts rich people.

00:19:24.180 That's not true.

00:19:24.920 With 401Ks, huge percentages of the American public, particularly Republican voters, have exposure to the stock market in some form or fashion.

00:19:33.320 So, record high stock prices is super important.

00:19:36.600 I would say the third most important thing he has done, Buck, 4.3% GDP at the end of the third quarter.

00:19:42.980 There is a very good chance that we are going to be at 5% plus for the fourth quarter and on into 2026.

00:19:50.140 Inflation in the wake of tariffs did not skyrocket.

00:19:53.120 In fact, it has continued to come down four-year lows going all the way back, I believe, to March of 2021.

00:19:58.900 2.6% core inflation.

00:20:01.620 Record murder decline.

00:20:03.480 No one is talking about it.

00:20:04.720 One of the biggest murder declines we have ever seen in many different cities out there, particularly the cities that President Trump has surged federal support the most for.

00:20:14.000 I would say sixth most impressive thing.

00:20:16.000 Record fentanyl death decline.

00:20:17.780 That is, overdoses, poisonings related to drugs have collapsed.

00:20:21.460 Mortgage rates down 7% and mortgage rates down 1% from over 7%.

00:20:28.400 And gas prices are at a four-year low.

00:20:31.560 Those are eight things that I think President Trump has accomplished and could sell.

00:20:35.940 Now, there's also a lot of international affairs, the situation with Israel, Gaza.

00:20:40.220 But I'm just focused right now on those eight things.

00:20:42.920 America first, the America agenda, not even getting into Venezuela, not getting into the settlement, the peace process in Gaza.

00:20:51.220 All those things are very consequential.

00:20:53.540 But just in the United States, what is changing in your life?

00:20:56.640 All eight of those things.

00:20:57.860 I put up a poll question asking, Buck, what grade would you give President Trump?

00:21:04.680 An 800-282-2882.

00:21:06.740 You can give us a talkback on this.

00:21:09.520 I'm hitting retweet on this right now.

00:21:12.040 So if you want to go vote in the Twitter poll, what grade would you give Donald Trump's first year in office?

00:21:18.160 47% of you say A.

00:21:20.800 34% of you say B.

00:21:23.360 13% of you say C.

00:21:26.300 And 6% of you say D or F in terms of what the impact is.

00:21:33.820 Buck, I would give him an A.

00:21:35.580 I bet you would give him an A.

00:21:37.540 But I'm curious to hear from people.

00:21:40.400 I just laid out those eight different things that I think are all super consequential and important that are evidence of the success that he has had in year one.

00:21:49.180 You know, I just also think there's such a difference in a lot of the conversation among Trump supporters.

00:21:55.640 First time around one year in, and I mean for people who were as pro-Trump as it gets, voted for him, love the guy, love what he's trying to do for the country.

00:22:04.200 There was a lot of frustration over staff, who's he got in place, are they on board?

00:22:10.560 Yeah, that's important too.

00:22:11.520 There was a lot of, oh, it's not his fault, the staff.

00:22:14.160 You don't hear any of that now.

00:22:15.640 Yes.

00:22:16.060 It's just a totally different, and this is just marking the progress I'm saying, marking the transformation of, honestly, the experience level that Trump as commander in chief, as well as the people around him have had.

00:22:30.920 But we have very little, now, look, there's always going to be people who don't like, you know, what happened at, you know, pick your department, or they think that this could be different.

00:22:42.200 But there isn't this, you know, hey, it's not Trump's fault.

00:22:45.680 It's the fault of these people or that people that didn't do this thing.

00:22:48.280 We're not wasting any time with that because overall the agenda is being implemented, is being pursued.

00:22:54.800 You know, you have to give credit to the people that are the main implementors, whether it's at any of these different agencies.

00:23:05.780 It's at State.

00:23:06.660 It's at, obviously, the funniest thing with Marco Rubio these days is all the memes about how he's got 15 different jobs.

00:23:12.580 And, you know, you have a lot of people around him who have stepped up.

00:23:15.600 So the conversation is different, and it's now just how do we keep it going instead of, okay, we've got to have a big change in course here.

00:23:23.460 Like, does anyone even remember, what did Rex Tillerson do his first year as Secretary of State?

00:23:27.280 Nobody knows.

00:23:28.540 Didn't last long.

00:23:29.420 Didn't work.

00:23:30.060 Wasn't a good thing.

00:23:31.580 Rubio, you see what he's been up to, and obviously he's a long-standing Republican fixture now in the Senate and on Foreign Relations Committee, et cetera.

00:23:41.760 But these are people who understand what the Trump mission is and are getting it done day in and day out.

00:23:49.020 So I've got to say it's been a great first year.

00:23:52.540 That doesn't mean there aren't – there's always going to be areas of improvement.

00:23:55.100 There's always going to be some criticism that I think is necessary to help the team get better.

00:24:00.500 But, man, it's just a world of difference.

00:24:02.800 We're playing a lot of – Clay, we're playing so much defense back in – we, you know, the Trump voters,

00:24:09.020 playing so much defense back in 2017 into 2018 on the Russia collusion craziness.

00:24:15.800 Yeah.

00:24:16.660 It completely consumed the media news, the media cycle day after day after day, all a lie.

00:24:24.720 And, yes, it's to Trump's credit that he battled through all of that and then all the other stuff they threw at him and got a second term.

00:24:31.920 But it, unfortunately, was pretty successful in slowing down and sabotaging the agenda term. 0.93

00:24:39.260 Year one, term one, a lot of Russia collusion garbage. 0.90

00:24:42.700 Yeah.

00:24:43.060 I think your point there on staff continuity is hugely important because, yes, there have been conflict, as there always is.

00:24:52.120 People argue for what they believe in.

00:24:54.000 People disagree with them.

00:24:55.120 They go back and forth.

00:24:56.860 Nobody's gotten forced out.

00:24:58.120 No one in the entire first year did Trump say, you know what, I made a poor choice here.

00:25:05.180 I'm going to accede to some of the smoke, some of the fire, some of the attention on these individual picks.

00:25:12.780 Now, that doesn't mean that he's not going to have staff turnover.

00:25:15.780 He certainly is.

00:25:17.260 As you move into year two, as you move into year three, people get burned out.

00:25:21.560 That's natural no matter who the president is.

00:25:23.480 But you remember this.

00:25:24.280 They really went after Trump on his inability to have a consistent managerial core in the first Trump administration.

00:25:33.280 And they were constantly shifting in and out of people.

00:25:36.000 Man, with James Blair, with Stephen Miller, with Susie Wiles, the chief of staff core has remained very, very consistent.

00:25:42.780 And then you look at the entire cabinet.

00:25:45.420 Everybody, it seems, is in pretty decent shape as we move into year two.

00:25:48.920 Now, again, people are going to decide this is too much work.

00:25:52.420 I need a little bit more life work-life balance.

00:25:55.300 That's natural in the White House because it is such an all-encompassing job.

00:25:59.160 But in terms of the media being able to browbeat Trump into making changes in his personnel, it hasn't happened.

00:26:05.460 And I actually think if you look at Hegseth, J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, and Trump in terms of those four supremely important positions, I'm not sure that we have actually been in a stronger position as a country than having all of those individuals involved right now.

00:26:23.260 So I would give an A.

00:26:24.660 You guys can weigh in.

00:26:25.820 800-282-2882.

00:26:27.360 People are not always going to agree with everything the president did, but I saw the Wall Street Journal, I think it was, came out.

00:26:34.300 92% of Trump's voters support his presidency so far.

00:26:38.720 So they've tried to sell this idea of, oh, Trump's base is leaving him.

00:26:43.100 Oh, Trump voters are unhappy.

00:26:45.380 I don't think that's remotely true.

00:26:46.640 I'm going to tell you this.

00:26:47.260 I had to gear up for this, you know, after the – because, again, we're marking the one year of Trump getting sworn in for the second time.

00:26:54.180 One-year anniversary today.

00:26:55.760 Okay, so the start of year two of term two is today.

00:27:00.160 And I remember after the huge win and just the enormous relief thinking to myself and how we were going to have to deal with this if it came to it, which is, this isn't term one.

00:27:09.100 Like, there's no learning on the job.

00:27:10.960 There's no, oh, trust him.

00:27:13.020 He'll get it right eventually.

00:27:14.220 Obviously, this time around, had to be prepared to say, if he wasn't pursuing the agenda on something that was promised or if he was making personnel decisions that were really counterproductive, we were going to have to hold that to account.

00:27:28.020 And we will if that happens in the future.

00:27:29.940 But I look at term one and I'm like – or year one, rather – and they're getting it done.

00:27:35.960 They truly are.

00:27:37.180 And we're not mired in defending against the same media nonsense with Russia collusion and then the prosecutions and all this other stuff they've thrown at Trump.

00:27:46.100 Do you see what Trump and his team are capable of doing without, like I said, all the artificial sabotage of the media and the Democrat Party weaponizing the deep state against them?

00:27:57.660 If I were going to point to one thing that was not handled well, it would be Pam Bondi and Epstein.

00:28:03.540 Like, if you gave me a magic wand and you said you can go back and manage –

00:28:07.000 And we said that.

00:28:07.740 I thought she was going to get fired. 1.00

00:28:09.640 And I said it here.

00:28:10.300 I thought they were going to tell her that, you know, enough's enough.

00:28:12.200 And even Susie Wiles, chief of staff, came out and said, yeah, we really screwed that up.

00:28:16.780 Of course it was a screw-up.

00:28:17.100 The fact that she said the files were on her desk, the fact that they had those influencers walk in with the binders and all that, I think that's the biggest unforced error of the first year.

00:28:26.000 They still have to get those files out, by the way.

00:28:28.580 We haven't forgotten.

00:28:29.880 And, you know, people say, put more pressure on them.

00:28:33.040 We can, but I don't run any of these agencies.

00:28:35.160 Not that it's Clay.

00:28:35.660 There needs to be more release of that information out there.

00:28:40.120 And I think that that is coming, but it is too slow.

00:28:44.140 But there's that. 0.98

00:28:45.780 And then there's these other things that we're talking about, the economy, the border, national security, not being involved in stupid wars. 0.87

00:28:52.800 I mean, these are very, very big things that affect all of us.

00:28:56.620 And I think that on those areas, those issues, it has been really strong.

00:29:00.560 By the way, Scott Besson, who I think has been the, I think has been the out, I think, Clay, you could say, that Scott Besson outkicked his coverage or has certainly outperformed expectations for what he'd be able to do.

00:29:17.280 I think because a lot, look, I didn't know who he was before Trump made him Treasury Secretary.

00:29:20.380 I don't think many people did.

00:29:21.440 And so here he is.

00:29:23.680 I think he's done a very good job here.

00:29:26.360 We've got two big issues that he's tackling here.

00:29:27.940 Let's talk first about the tariffs.

00:29:29.820 Here he is saying that he doesn't think, Clay, they're going to strike down the president's signature economic policy.

00:29:35.820 This is 16.

00:29:36.580 Hit it.

00:29:37.000 I think it's very unlikely that the Supreme Court is going to strike down a president's signature economic policy.

00:29:43.660 It didn't early on with the ACA, also known as Obamacare.

00:29:49.780 They reinforced that recently.

00:29:53.140 And the real problem here is President Trump has used IEPA for negotiating leverage for geopolitics in emergency situations.

00:30:04.280 If we look back, the first IEPA tariffs were fentanyl tariffs.

00:30:08.460 So on Mexico, on Canada, on China, and if fentanyl is not a national emergency, I don't know what was.

00:30:17.840 All right.

00:30:18.480 I'm nervous about this one, Buck.

00:30:20.100 I think the Supreme Court is going to strike down some elements of President Trump.

00:30:24.340 And I appreciate the fact that Scott Besson is making that argument because that is his job and he should be advocating for the president's perspective.

00:30:30.560 So I don't begrudge anybody advocating in that way.

00:30:33.520 I think this is one where the president's going to get a pushback from the Supreme Court and they are going to have they're going to have a really complicated situation here.

00:30:47.540 We keep waiting for the official following Shannon Bream this morning because I thought we might be getting the tariff Supreme Court case.

00:30:55.720 My concern is that they're going to slap him back some on this.

00:31:00.020 We'll see.

00:31:01.000 But I think it could be a major pushback.

00:31:03.700 We'll talk about that.

00:31:04.320 By the way, White House supposed to start this press briefing any minute now.

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00:32:52.740 Welcome back in, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.

00:32:56.480 We continue to wait the White House press conference President Trump addressing on the one-year anniversary of his swearing in as we begin the second year of Trump.

00:33:05.800 I saw this morning, I was reading Axios, Buck, and I know there were probably left-wingers out there who just had tears running down their cheeks.

00:33:13.640 We still have over 1,000 days left of Trump 2.0.

00:33:18.700 So, this is, you know, we're 25% done, but we still have 75% of the fun still to come.

00:33:28.360 It doesn't mean that people are not still behaving in a crazy fashion on The View.

00:33:34.260 In fact, they may have gotten crazier.

00:33:35.940 They had, I saw this this morning as I was getting ready for the show, Buck, they had Pam Greer on. 0.99

00:33:39.760 Pam Greer was a star, Foxy Brown, of the so-called, like, sort of blackploitation movies of the 60s and 70s. 0.98

00:33:49.320 She was born in 1949.

00:33:51.400 She was on The View talking with Sonny Hostin.

00:33:53.820 This is crazy.

00:33:55.140 Listen to her say that when she was growing up in Columbus, Ohio, lynchings were so common for her that her mom had to tell her not to look at the dead black bodies that had been lynched by white people.

00:34:08.860 This is on The View earlier today.

00:34:11.180 Listen.

00:34:11.620 The military wouldn't allow black families to live on the base.

00:34:14.440 So, you had to live in an apartment.

00:34:15.920 And you couldn't take a bus.

00:34:17.520 You couldn't afford a car.

00:34:18.620 You walked.

00:34:19.020 Your dad's walked to the base.

00:34:21.240 And, whew, sometimes we would go from, you know, tree shade to shade to get back to the apartment.

00:34:28.080 My brother and I and my mom with bags.

00:34:30.840 And my mom would go, don't look, don't look, don't look.

00:34:33.160 And she'd pull us away because there was someone hanging from a tree.

00:34:36.540 And they have a memorial for it now where you can see where people were and left.

00:34:43.780 And it triggers me today.

00:34:48.340 Okay, Buck, according to End Wokeness, great Twitter account to follow out there, the last lynching in Ohio happened in 1911.

00:34:59.240 Pam Greer was born in 1949.

00:35:01.620 So, she went on The View.

00:35:03.480 No one pushed back and said, that's a totally untrue story.

00:35:07.420 But that lynchings were so common, she said, in Columbus, Ohio, that she had to not look at the trees as she walked back to her home.

00:35:17.720 I mean, what do you think here?

00:35:19.540 Like, how has she convinced herself that this was true?

00:35:23.420 How does Sonny Hostin not push back?

00:35:25.600 I mean, this is scary, honestly.

00:35:27.120 They, everyone on the left will recognize that victim status is something that is very desirable.

00:35:38.280 Because when you're a victim and you tell a victim narrative about yourself and all of the things in your life that haven't gone the way that you want them to are somebody else's fault.

00:35:49.080 And you also have a claim about how it is their fault, therefore they should do more for you.

00:35:55.240 Or it is their fault, therefore something else should be made to happen for you.

00:36:00.700 And because the left is so, in my opinion, the left is so, I guess everything I say here is my opinion, but you know what I mean, deeply enmeshed in this ideology, like this faith of victimhood that they have, they don't even recognize absurd exaggeration.

00:36:19.420 They're just like, oh, well, that's her story of victimhood, so like I have to respect that, you know.

00:36:24.660 That's her lived experience, even though that wasn't her lived experience.

00:36:28.800 But you know, the mentality is, however you're going to describe your oppression narrative must be accepted by others.

00:36:35.540 Because oppression narratives are so important to people who are of the leftist mindset.

00:36:39.720 And I actually believe it's, like, structurally, in the working of the mind, left and right, political sense is, I think it's much more in the brain than it is, than a lot of people think about, or a lot of people will get into.

00:36:53.940 Because I just can't imagine approaching the world the way so many of these people do, whether it's the maniac screaming at ICE officers in the streets, or it's this kind of washed up actress saying that she saw, you know, lynchings in the trees by her home.

00:37:10.360 I mean, they're just all used to making stuff up for the purposes of self-pity, Clay, that I don't think any of them want to call anyone else out, because this is so common.

00:37:19.480 Does that make sense?

00:37:20.000 I was like, this is like, this is like in the 90s, it was like, oh, look, I've experienced so much racism.

00:37:24.300 You'd hear this from people, particularly people from communities of color, not all of them, leftists.

00:37:29.780 I'm talking about people that would make these kinds of claims.

00:37:32.380 And you'd be like, well, what racism have you experienced?

00:37:34.060 Like, well, there was a detective that followed me once in a store.

00:37:37.260 You know, we'd always hear this.

00:37:38.160 Yeah.

00:37:38.680 And you'd be like, well, but were you actually followed?

00:37:41.800 And how do you know he was a detective?

00:37:43.600 And I'd be like, you know, I've actually been, like, had people look at me before when I was younger,

00:37:48.160 and I thought that I might be like, are you sure it was because of your skin color?

00:37:51.940 Are you sure that the point is everyone's allowed to play this game on the left?

00:37:56.640 So no one's going to call this out no matter how absurd it is, because in this case, honestly,

00:38:01.960 what do you think Sonny Hauston even has any idea of when the last lynching was in this country?

00:38:07.220 Or even how few there were relative to the overall population, right?

00:38:15.060 In other words, if you go back and you study that entire era, which was awful and did exist, right? 0.96

00:38:22.120 But this idea that it was so common that people alive today would have any recollection of it at all,

00:38:30.160 you would have to be 100 years old, basically, to have any true recollection of an incident like that.

00:38:37.920 And Pam Greer is nowhere near that age.

00:38:40.120 Again, the last lynching in Ohio happened 38 years before she was born, two generations now.

00:38:46.220 Oh, Clay, Clay, if you really want to get people fired up, talk about how most lynchings didn't involve black people at all.

00:38:52.780 Well, if you...

00:38:54.160 That is historical fact.

00:38:56.380 I just want to be very clear.

00:38:57.220 Most lynchings in this country were not of black Americans.

00:39:02.240 That is a fact.

00:39:03.440 But you hear that people go, oh, they get very upset.

00:39:06.060 It's like saying that there were former slaves in the South who owned slaves themselves.

00:39:13.660 These are facts historically.

00:39:15.760 Go check them out.

00:39:16.940 Please, fact check me if I'm wrong.

00:39:19.100 But, Clay, that's a very uncomfortable reality for some people because the narrative is so powerful.

00:39:23.680 Well, not only that, it's if you ask any questions at all about it, to your point, if you say, are you sure that was racism?

00:39:31.960 Like, I lived through this, and I was talking about earlier, we were at the Indiana-Miami game,

00:39:36.460 and just how much patriotism it felt like in that stadium as they sang the national anthem, put Trump on the scoreboard, everybody cheered.

00:39:43.860 But it wasn't very long ago people were taking knees, and there were players coming out and saying, oh, I was racially profiled, to your point.

00:39:52.600 And I remember one of the players saying, I was racially profiled at a Las Vegas casino.

00:39:58.460 I said, that seems kind of unlikely.

00:40:00.220 I mean, if you said to me, hey, what place in America has more cameras per capita than a casino?

00:40:09.920 Because they're trying to catch everybody to make sure you're not cheating at cards, to make sure whether or not you actually won your slot machine game, all those things.

00:40:18.440 Video comes out, and it wasn't actually true at all, right, as often is the case.

00:40:23.160 And you've talked about, with BLM basically dying, because now everybody has a video of the police officers, and what we overwhelmingly see is they're pretty good.

00:40:31.780 Now we get into this.

00:40:32.900 So by the numbers, okay, so this is now going to be what qualifies as a lynching.

00:40:36.560 Now this is if you consider a posse formed of individuals anywhere engaged in what is considered frontier justice,

00:40:46.780 that hung somebody outside of normal judicial procedure.

00:40:50.040 I would, I mean, I think that, so now it's, what is your definition of a lynching?

00:40:54.720 The numbers are roughly 70-30 black victims, white victims, as I'm pulling this up here.

00:41:01.780 But now you have to get into, well, what's considered a lynching?

00:41:05.360 Because this is excluding anything considered frontier justice.

00:41:10.060 Yeah.

00:41:10.480 So now you get into, well, so, but then how are you separating out a lynch mob from frontier justice?

00:41:18.620 I guess it's the presence, so basically, if there was a judicial procedure that they went around, they're saying that is not.

00:41:26.760 But if you consider non-judicial proceedings on the frontier where people were hanged to also be a lynching,

00:41:32.740 then yes, there are more lynchings of individuals who are not black.

00:41:36.460 But even by the NAAC, by the way, these are the NAACP's numbers, even by the NAACP's numbers,

00:41:41.880 do people know that 30% of their qualification of lynchings were white?

00:41:48.000 You don't, this is not, I mean, how many people, if you don't hear this, that lynchings are only a,

00:41:53.600 now, of course, it's one of the ugliest things, it's horrible, it's racist, all of that.

00:41:56.840 But we should know what the actual numbers or the actual reality of the history of this was.

00:42:03.600 And we should be thankful that basically no one living today has ever experienced one.

00:42:09.480 Right, by and large, right?

00:42:11.780 And so when you have somebody like Pam Greer come on, if you point out that that can't be true,

00:42:18.240 then they typically come back with what? 0.61

00:42:20.320 Oh, you're racist.

00:42:21.280 Well, you don't know what it's like to live in this experience.

00:42:24.460 And this is where I come back to objective reality and facts have to matter.

00:42:27.600 And so for The View to have this story happening, and you know this, Buck,

00:42:33.760 they pre-vet all of the answers to questions and know exactly, to a large extent, what is going to be said. 0.99

00:42:41.160 So oftentimes they conduct pre-interviews for these shows because so many of their hosts are morons 0.96

00:42:47.460 that they know what's going to be said, they still didn't correct it. 0.96

00:42:50.180 And just to give you a sense of why, so there's a thousand documented cases of frontier justice

00:42:55.980 where people were hanged by mobs that they're saying are non-lynch. 0.60

00:42:59.440 So it's like, now we're getting into what the definition of a lynch is.

00:43:01.760 And if you add those numbers in, now it gets a lot closer, so it's getting to be more like 50-50.

00:43:06.560 But the point is merely people should understand the history of this such that they don't think

00:43:11.680 that anybody alive today was witnessing lynchings on their way home.

00:43:16.240 And that it would be so common that your mom would be like, you can't look in the trees. 0.99

00:43:22.580 Somebody just has to call out this BS.

00:43:24.460 I actually didn't know this.

00:43:26.100 Estimates for Mexican-American lynchings in the Southwest range from 600 to over 5,000.

00:43:35.760 Again, I'm just going based off of what Grok is saying here for all of these numbers.

00:43:39.780 So this is my point.

00:43:40.740 So what I gave you, by the way, initially, those were the official NAACP numbers on lynchings,

00:43:45.300 which is 70-30 black and white.

00:43:48.880 And to be clear, now we're really looking, this is all 1800s we're talking about here, mostly.

00:43:54.460 1848, 1848.

00:43:57.020 And a lot of those would be so-called posses, right?

00:43:59.220 Like they would decide somebody has stolen.

00:44:01.180 But this is what I'm talking about.

00:44:02.240 When I said most lynchings or not, there is a, this is interesting actually. 0.66

00:44:06.500 Historically, and I'm seeing this play out now in the way that they do these numbers.

00:44:11.040 So they make a distinction between like a non-judicial hanging versus a non-judicial hanging where there is some judicial procedure that was supposed to be in place.

00:44:20.560 And that is how they get to the 70-30 number.

00:44:23.180 Oh, okay.

00:44:23.900 Well, I mean, I don't think it really mattered very much to the people being hanged without due process.

00:44:29.640 I'm just going to point that out.

00:44:31.300 And Pam Greer, one billion percent is lying here. 0.99

00:44:34.600 And the fact that ABC would air that on The View, the fact that they would know she's going to say it,

00:44:38.820 and nobody would push back at all.

00:44:40.560 I mean, it's crazy.

00:44:41.300 And it goes to what Buck's saying is there is a profound, desperate hope to be a victim in left-wing culture.

00:44:48.460 Jussie Smollett is just such a primary evidentiary fact of that, that they want to have awful things happen. 0.99

00:44:55.680 They want to have experienced awful things.

00:44:57.740 They want to have been victims.

00:45:00.140 And Pam Greer is marinating in something that never happened. 0.96

00:45:02.760 I wonder what she's even thinking of to claim that that occurred and to be allowed to air.

00:45:09.860 All right, we come back.

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00:45:11.780 They still haven't started the White House press conference.

00:45:13.580 I don't think they have.

00:45:14.600 Still waiting on that.

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00:47:03.580 Welcome back into Clay and Buck.

00:47:05.100 So, Trump is, he's freestyling right now.

00:47:07.860 He's just letting it rip up at the podium.

00:47:10.040 We're going to bring in some of the highlights of it because he's weaving, for sure.

00:47:14.460 Kind of going in and out of different things.

00:47:16.980 And I think he's laying some of the groundwork for his discussions in Davos.

00:47:23.120 And specifically over Greenland, which I think is very much going to be, it's going to be a bit of a showdown with some of these European bureaucrat types.

00:47:34.680 For example, Clay, here is, let's cut 18, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, you know, of the von der Leyen's.

00:47:46.240 Yes.

00:47:46.580 Here she is saying that Greenland is non-negotiable.

00:47:49.940 Play 18.

00:47:50.500 Ladies and gentlemen, we consider the people of the United States not just our allies, but our friends.

00:47:58.120 And plunging us into a downward spiral would only aid the very adversaries we are both so committed to keeping out of the strategic landscape.

00:48:08.800 So our response will be unflinching, united and proportional.

00:48:12.860 But beyond this, we have to be strategic about how we approach this issue.

00:48:18.760 And this is why we are working on a package to support Arctic security.

00:48:22.780 First principle, full solidarity with Greenland and the kingdom of Denmark.

00:48:27.040 The sovereignty and integrity of their territory is non-negotiable.

00:48:32.020 Well, I mean, everything has a price.

00:48:37.020 Well, why does Denmark get to have control over Greenland if it's so bad for non-Greenlanders to be in control of in any way their future? 0.81

00:48:47.920 Why is Denmark allowed to still have this asset?

00:48:50.480 And, Buck, let me just – what President Trump is looking towards is, I think, a future where if you saw what Russia did with Ukraine, where they went in and they decided they were going to take that territory, he's asking a very valid question.

00:49:03.500 There is basically no defense of Greenland at all.

00:49:06.620 What if Russia decides that they want to go in and occupy that country because of its strategic value?

00:49:12.080 Which Russia has done numerous times in the last two decades to countries that are sovereign nations with real militaries, I might say.

00:49:19.020 Well, you just came back from Taiwan.

00:49:20.980 I mean, what China has done is slowly try to, especially in the South China Sea, take over shipping lanes, restrict who's allowed to transport and ingress and egress in those areas.

00:49:31.760 Why is it crazy to think that Russia, as these Arctic shipping lanes open up, might not engage in aggressive behavior and start to try to take over? 0.82

00:49:40.780 And I think what Trump's looking forward towards is trying to limit that from ever becoming a reality.

00:49:47.080 Here is a Danish parliament member among the most well-known – because none of us know any of them – Rasmus Jarlow.

00:49:56.180 I've always been a fan of the Jarlow family.

00:49:58.520 I celebrate Rasmus' whole catalog.

00:50:00.280 Here he is, cut 17.

00:50:02.100 We will, of course, defend Greenland.

00:50:03.820 If there is an evasion by American troops, it would be a war, and we would be fighting against each other.

00:50:10.240 We know that the Americans are stronger than us, and you have a much stronger military than ours, but it is our duty to defend our land and our people, and the 57,000 Danish citizens that live in Greenland that have made it absolutely crystal clear that they don't want to be taken by the United States.

00:50:26.040 We have an obligation to fight for those people, and our forces will do that, but it would be a disaster also for the United States.

00:50:32.280 We're not – there's not going to be a war.

00:50:35.600 Like, what is this?

00:50:36.660 This is reckless stuff.

00:50:38.320 No one's shooting it.

00:50:39.300 We love Danes.

00:50:40.460 Danes are great people, and Greenlanders, we don't really know them very well, or at least I don't. 1.00

00:50:45.480 Have you ever met someone from Greenland?

00:50:46.640 I don't think so.

00:50:47.600 I mean, there's not very many of them.

00:50:48.680 We have Greenland listeners right now, but they're on the Space Force base.

00:50:53.060 Well, look, here is what's going to happen.

00:50:56.760 If we are going to acquire Greenland, it is going to require us to make cash payments to people who live in Greenland, and they're going to vote to be territorially connected to the United States instead of Denmark.

00:51:10.520 You can be rich and American, or you can be cold and Danish. 1.00

00:51:14.760 Yes, that's a good analogy.

00:51:16.520 Also, Denmark is spending, based on my reading, around a billion dollars a year because as we started, I think, this week or last week maybe it was we were talking about this, the primary economic value right now of Greenland is shrimp.

00:51:31.080 Now, I'm a big fan of shrimp.

00:51:32.920 I bet a lot of you out there like to eat shrimp.

00:51:35.680 It's not exactly the greatest foundation for economic viability in the 21st century to say, hey, what is your country known for?

00:51:43.140 Well, we go out and we harvest a lot of shrimp from the sea, and so it's all these mineral rights going forward.

00:51:52.580 Again, I just I don't think Trump is getting enough credit.

00:51:56.420 The one thing the guy knows is land value development.

00:52:00.200 He is looking at this, and he's thinking not for the next five years.

00:52:03.680 He's thinking for the next 25, next 100 years.

00:52:07.660 This is a decision that makes rational sense to him.

00:52:10.440 Well, why also you think of something like like Greenland or, you know, the Falklands, which they did fight a war over with Argentina a while ago, back in the early 80s, between the Brits and the Argentinians.

00:52:22.220 Margaret Margaret Thatcher was not messing around. 1.00

00:52:24.940 She also had a bit of a find out, you know, mess around and find out foreign policy approach. 1.00

00:52:30.900 But these are places that are self-governed, but have some connection to another country for their defense.

00:52:38.620 Like we have to pretend like this is an integral part of this this nation's sovereignty.

00:52:44.380 Again, I would not advocate.

00:52:46.260 I would not support Trump just taking this stuff by force.

00:52:50.880 There has to be consent of the people that would be governed.

00:52:53.460 There has to be an agreement.

00:52:54.480 There has to be a negotiation for this.

00:52:57.440 But it's like I said, I mean, you're we got we got a man here who is really the legal eagle of the U.S. Virgin Islands.

00:53:03.820 There's not very many of us that are actual lawyers licensed in United States territory.

00:53:08.600 One day, one of you is going to be on a cruise and something's going to go awry.

00:53:12.640 You know, you're going to have some problem and you're going to be calling Mr. Clay Travis here on the radio show asking him for advice because he knows his way around the legal system in the U.S. Virgin Islands.

00:53:21.480 But if if Russia, because they wanted a warm place for their billionaires, for the oligarchs, well, Russia is a bad idea because we don't we got all these problems with Russia.

00:53:30.480 But I'm just if some foreign country said, you know what, we're going to give you, I don't know, a trillion dollars for the U.S. Virgin Islands and we'll provide all defense and whatever.

00:53:40.660 I think we should hear them out.

00:53:42.120 Depends on what the who the country is.

00:53:43.540 Russia is a bad example because strategically that's a problem for us. 0.94

00:53:46.020 But if the U.K., if the U.K. for some reason, oh, they're on their asses financially, they couldn't do this.

00:53:51.340 But if they offered us a trillion dollars to take the rest of the Virgin Islands. 0.70

00:53:54.780 Yeah, we're going to merge.

00:53:55.660 I'm not going to lose any sleep over that.

00:53:57.320 That's going to be OK for me.

00:53:58.500 The BVI and the USVI.

00:53:59.800 But I think what's more likely to happen in that situation and the USVI is actually a good analogy for Greenland.

00:54:05.660 There's around 95,000 people ish, a little bit less than 100 in St. Croix, St. Thomas and St. John.

00:54:13.520 OK, I was a citizen of the United States of Virgin Islands.

00:54:16.540 We are a territory.

00:54:17.860 That means we can't vote for president, but we are subject to U.S. jurisdiction.

00:54:22.920 There's 57,000 people in Greenland.

00:54:25.480 The last asset we bought, 1917, U.S. Virgin Islands now, we bought all three of these islands from Denmark in 1917 for $25 million in cash.

00:54:36.140 Why is that not an analogistic example of what could happen with Greenland?

00:54:41.000 And by the way, the reason we wanted the U.S. Virgin Islands, to my understanding, is to have a basically shipping depot for transit purposes as it pertained to assets, strategic assets in Latin America.

00:54:54.100 And also then for going across to to Europe for shipping lanes, everything else.

00:55:00.400 So I am a territorial lawyer in the U.S. Virgin Islands.

00:55:04.440 Why would it not make sense to have Greenland under the exact same auspices?

00:55:09.120 And I believe what American Samoa, we've talked about all the territories that are uniquely the insular cases.

00:55:14.880 For those of you who really want to dive into the legal proceedings of the U.S. Virgin Islands back in the day,

00:55:20.580 there's an entire Supreme Court precedent surrounding these territories, which are not states, which are not allowed to vote for president of the United States, for instance, that are still subject to American jurisdiction.

00:55:33.480 So you have some form of independence, but you're under the fabric of the United States protection.

00:55:39.220 Why would that not make sense for Greenland?

00:55:40.600 And again, I come back to the way this would work is we would pay every Greenlander a certain amount of money and they would decide that they no longer want to be affiliated with Denmark.

00:55:53.700 And that seems eminently rational to me.

00:55:55.940 They would have better life.

00:55:56.820 They would have better economic situation.

00:55:58.740 And we're going to hear that in great detail, I think, starting tomorrow when President Trump.

00:56:03.860 I don't think the timing on this is an accident, knowing that he's going to go to Davos and be speaking to the entirety of the world.

00:56:11.040 All right.

00:56:11.700 When we come back, we will take some of your talk back.

00:56:14.160 We will close up shop on the Tuesday edition of the program as President Trump continues to talk in front of the media here on the one year anniversary of Trump 2.0.

00:56:26.860 And I want to tell you, going into this weekend, AFC Championship game, NFC Championship game, Buck and I are in Miami.

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00:56:37.080 By the way, those of you who are mad at me, if you go with my football analysis, you get what you get.

00:56:41.320 Okay.

00:56:41.640 I was wrong on Miami, but it was close.

00:56:44.200 If that one guy had caught the ball instead of the other guy at the end, I would have won.

00:56:48.960 If we hadn't had the block kick for a touchdown, that was an implosion by the Miami special teams.

00:56:55.920 But we got the AFC and the NFC both playing Sunday in what should be epic games.

00:57:02.200 The Seahawks going up against the Rams, and you've got – that's the NFC side.

00:57:07.640 And then on the AFC side, you've got what should be a really interesting matchup with the Broncos hosting the New England Patriots.

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