00:22:11.340Minneapolis right now is the focus, as is Greenland and the negotiations at Davos.
00:22:15.360But I think this White House is probably going to have a press conference in the days ahead where the first thing we hear from Caroline Levitt is going to be all these stats that you just shared.
00:22:25.400If they haven't done this already, maybe I've missed some of this.
00:22:27.480But they should do that because a few things.
00:22:32.220One, the administration deserves the credit for making a decision in the face of tremendous pushback.
00:22:55.380And so it's important that everyone understands the old way of, sorry, we just have to have X hundred number of murders in this city or that city because that's the way it is, should no longer apply.
00:23:08.060What's even more, what's the word, shocking, but maybe it shouldn't be shocking, is Clay, all the people that were opposed to this should now be saying, wow, murders are way down.
00:23:24.920But they won't because they would rather, I don't know how else you could frame this.
00:23:30.560They would rather more people get shot and killed in D.C., in Memphis, in all these different cities we're talking about.
00:23:39.360They'd rather more people get shot and killed because they don't have to see that and deal with it if they don't live there or they don't live in one of the bad neighborhoods that admit that Trump was right and that he's saving lives.
00:24:23.000No one has saved more black lives than Donald Trump, I mean, in the history of the presidency.
00:24:30.220I don't know who was president back in 1900, but when you look, I mean, in all seriousness, it's unfortunate truth that the black murder rate,
00:24:41.600that is people who are black who are murdered, is I think it's 20x the white murder rate.
00:24:59.100We'll have a, we'll grok it, but I think you are 20 times as likely to be murdered if you are black as if you are white.
00:25:06.560So my point on that is when murder rates come down, they overwhelmingly are leading to fewer black murders because the numbers are statistically what they are.
00:25:18.240So if you truly believe that black lives matter and you've been focused on it since George Floyd, no one has done more to save black lives as a president than President Trump has.
00:25:29.180And the reality is what I, what I love about this, in addition to the fact that way more people are alive, which is a good thing, the DC numbers buck.
00:25:40.560We got lectured, so many journos came out and they said, they wagged their fingers and they either said, it's not actually that dangerous because that's one of the things they would say.
00:25:51.180Well, they, then the national, you're right about this, but I think it's interesting, Clay, because remember we talked about it, journos who didn't live in DC were all, DC's great.
00:26:01.680I went there on a school trip and it was really nice.
00:26:12.160The, the actual journos in DC though, including some libs, you remember there were cracks, there were breaks in the ranks on this where they were like, yeah,
00:26:25.080Some of them started speaking up because they were sick of being worried about getting robbed for their phone on their street corner in nice neighborhoods.
00:26:33.420The numbers have plummeted 40% DC murders, overwhelmingly saved black lives in DC because almost everyone who dies of murder in DC is black.
00:26:42.560I mean, that is what the data actually reflects.
00:26:45.160Also Buck, this ties in with what we're talking about in Minneapolis.
00:26:48.900Do you think that just maybe letting ice go arrest violent criminals in the United States and put people on notice that they're coming for them might also have impacted in a significant way.
00:27:04.060The overall murder rate that we saw happen in this country.
00:27:07.400I just think if, if you just objectively step back and just said, Hey, let's look at what the data actually reflects.
00:27:17.680This is where I think president Trump is correct.
00:27:20.140He's not getting credit for having a transformative first year of his presidency when it comes to border security, when it comes to actual murder rates nationwide, when it comes to locking bad guys up.
00:27:36.520Think about this, no one alive, listening to us today, this is a pretty incredible, no one alive, listening to us today has ever lived in a United States safer than last year in the United States.
00:27:51.260That's a pretty remarkable stat unless you were, unless you're, unless you're, I don't think anybody's 125 years old or 126 years old right now, then none of us have ever been alive in a United States that was safer than president Trump's first year in 2025.
00:28:08.060And it's a remarkable turnaround since 2020 when the murder rate skyrocketed, that we now have gone to a level of safety that no one living today has ever seen before.
00:28:21.960You know what I might call that book making America great again.
00:28:26.040In fact, it's not America safe again, for sure.
00:28:29.780Making America safer than it's ever been before.
00:28:32.580We're not even going back to the word again.
00:28:34.900We're going to a new standard of excellence when it comes to safety in the country.
00:28:40.580This should be the number one story everywhere in the nation right now.
00:28:45.440And I bet many of you will not hear it, but for having heard us talk about it.
00:30:19.340Politico has now updated their story to say Don Lemon was not charged.
00:30:24.880We told you CBS News reported and Daily Wire confirmed that a judge had refused to sign off on the complaint to allow Don Lemon to be arrested.
00:31:43.300And I think you have a big legal background, if I remember from our last conversation.
00:31:47.840Have you heard of a judge, like in Minneapolis, as reported by CBS and Daily Wire, refusing to sign off on a complaint for charges to be brought?
00:31:57.040Have you experienced that in your career?
00:32:03.080You know, politics has infused itself into the judiciary now in ways that it never was before.
00:32:10.640And I was a litigator in New York and in Maine and in D.C.
00:32:14.780And I clerked on the Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals.
00:32:17.160I never saw a judge not sign off on a valid complaint, and particularly a complaint from the attorney general of the United States.
00:32:24.820I just, you know, to be honest, I called in with just two simple points, and I just leave your listenership with them, and I don't want to take up your line.
00:32:32.300And in addition to the fact that we are up by double digits in this state and very likely to become the next governor, the first point is that we are living, Maine is the next Minnesota.
00:32:43.700We are living in a state here in Maine where the governor, the secretary of state, and others, including down to the mayor level, are provoking, in my opinion, violence.
00:32:54.580Our secretary of state blocked the issuance of undercover license plates for ICE last week.
00:33:01.240She directed that anybody who sees ICE, that is a government employee, needs to let her know, presumably so if you stalk, and then she can tell the so-called nonprofits that are involved in fraud and illegal immigration up here that they can harbor those people, get them out of the way.
00:33:17.780And the third thing she did is she directed our DMV employees, even though there's a federal statute saying that they should and can report illegal aliens to ICE, that they not do so.
00:33:29.300So, you know, the second big thing I'm just going to say, and it's very simple, is we're living in an environment nationwide.
00:33:35.600Minneapolis happens to be the current flashpoint.
00:33:38.220It may well be that Lewiston, Maine, or Portland, Maine become the next flashpoint in which you have leftist groups and leftist officials who are literally in the business of trying to incite without appearing that they're inciting.
00:33:51.820And I will tell you that as a former litigator and as a former federal investigator, I did the Waco hearings.
00:33:58.020I was one of Newt Gingrich's top investigators for five years.
00:34:01.860We have a statute. It's an obstruction statute, 18 U.S.C., 1501, 1505, 1510, which is interference with criminal investigations, that I think we're at the moment where the federal government should look at these, not just private individuals and not just these nonprofits pushing illegal aliens, but look at people like the Secretary of State, Maine, who incidentally is leading on the left to become the governor.
00:34:25.580I think she hasn't got a chance, but on the other hand, the machine is strong here.
00:34:29.880She is provoking people in such a way that I think it violates 18 U.S.C., 1510.
00:34:35.180And I think, you know, at a certain point, you have to at least alert people that if you are obstructing justice intentionally out there trying to rile people up, that there are federal consequences.
00:34:48.700Well, thank you for the call. I love this.
00:34:50.940How can people who are in Maine right now listening to you and saying, boy, that sounds good.
00:35:01.360It's the first time since 1962 that it looks like we could even get a majority rather than a plurality victory and win the House and Senate.
00:38:50.960There's something like Trump has the highest approval rating among Republicans.
00:38:55.840I think that he's ever had in his entire political career right now.
00:38:59.700That doesn't mean that everybody is in the still Trump camp.
00:39:03.840But I really think, I mean, again, the lowest murder rate since 1900, a completely secure border, a record high stock prices, rapidly accelerating growth rate in the country and inflation that has come down.
00:39:20.480I think it's hard to, if you had told me a year ago that we were going to have the lowest murder rate since 1900 and that we would have zero people crossing illegally into the country, I would have thought that was very, very difficult to accomplish.
00:39:50.120As far as Minnesota goes, they're doing the hearings in Washington.
00:39:54.860All the state politicians are testifying with, you know, being sworn in for perjury if they lie, and every one of them have come out and said that they believe that Walls and the AG knew that all this fraud is going on.
00:40:12.000So I would say that I would like Pam Boddy to do a conspiracy charge against both of those guys, and then she should take on French Fry, mayor there in Minneapolis, because once one politician goes down, guess what?
00:40:28.520There's a precedent, and Clay, you're a lawyer.
00:40:31.300You know that if you have a precedent for one thing, then it's easier to try the next case.
00:40:36.220And I would like them to come and get my mayor in Columbus, Ohio, because he's labeled us the sanctuary of the city, and the chief of police, and they said openly on video, and you can check it out, that they said in no way, shape, or form do they want to help with ICE, and we just had a big raid there.
00:40:51.920So all these little people that think that they're great politicians, they need to be accountable to the voters who gave them their trust, and I appreciate you guys.
00:40:59.960And the last thing I want to say is, can you beat the ban on the Bud Light thing that you did about a year ago?
00:41:08.500Because you guys kind of hammered that thing, and next thing you know, Bud Light conformed to the will of the people.
00:41:14.800We need to get our federal judges in there.
00:41:17.580Trump can have a great three years here, and then you won't have these problems with these magistrates not signing off for the right thing, and I appreciate you guys.
00:41:27.980Well, thank you for calling. He hit a lot of things there.
00:41:30.040I do think in the years ahead, what he pointed out about Bud Light, I think it was one of the most transformative, consequential, anti-woke responses that we've seen on any level, and I think it changed fundamentally the way that most, not all, but most companies in America do business, and dragged everybody back to the middle part of the country, insanity, as opposed to insanity.
00:41:54.400Look, what he's hitting at is, I think, a real question that is very valid, and that is, how in the world can mayors and governors defy federal law and do the sanctuary city aspects?
00:42:10.120And it was one thing when Biden was in office, and you could then say the immigration policy somewhat signed off and agreed on those.
00:42:18.200I think it's a real question that's valid across the country, and we will see.
00:42:25.000I will just say, Buck, as we go to break here and you take us out, one of the most interesting things about these arrests in Minneapolis, Democrats are on their back heels, and they're not fighting these arrests at all.
00:42:38.340I think the protests in Minneapolis, which they thought initially were going to benefit them quite significantly, maybe the numbers they're seeing nationwide aren't reflecting that most Americans agree that these protesters are making the Democrat Party look better.
00:42:55.980And now that it's starting to get super cold in Minneapolis, I wonder whether the word is going to go out, hey, guys, this is not the win that we thought it was going to be, because they're not standing up for these guys getting arrested right now at all.
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00:45:13.920He is coming back, I assume, shortly, if he's not already, from Davos, where he, as I understand it, did not actually get to give a speech last minute.
00:45:23.860Very upset about this, Gavin is. No surprise.
00:45:26.980I hear he's flying his shirt at half-mast play.
00:45:30.440He's only got it buttoned halfway right now, which is...
00:46:15.840Also, what happened to his Davos speech?
00:46:18.680And why is he in Davos in the first place?
00:46:20.640Well, he's in Davos, as everyone has said, to troll President Trump and extremely unsuccessfully.
00:46:27.880He was there ahead of him and then just absolutely got eviscerated and left in the corner, as we all saw in the little kids' table when President Trump walked in the room.
00:46:37.720And he should have been disinvited from the U.S. House when he was going to give this interview with Fortune.
00:46:42.780And after denigrating the president, who's working a historic, historic national security deal with Greenland, of which our children, grandchildren and their grandchildren will reap the benefits of.
00:46:56.540Gavin Newsom has nothing better to do, although I could find some things out in California, than to go and criticize President Trump for a board of peace and, you know, Greenland, acquiring Greenland.
00:47:09.500And we'll do so without any military force.
00:47:12.120So he doesn't deserve a seat at the big kids' table, honestly.
00:48:12.880And honestly, Secretary Besson put up the meme of this, or someone did on X, and that's where I saw Sparkle Kin.
00:48:20.540And it does represent Gavin Newsom, but I also think, and I keep repeating this, the severity of a governor, of a second-tier governor, low-rate governor, going out against President Trump needs to be taken seriously, because he is the Democrat frontrunner.
00:48:37.620I watched Kalshi do this entire platform on Gavin Newsom, is the, not just preferred, but has soared after this trip to Davos to basically troll President Trump as the frontrunner for the Democrat Party.
00:48:51.640And so here we land, the Democrat Party now has no platform except to troll President Trump, to have wide open borders, to defy ICE, and to allow criminals to run rampant, and to not build and rebuild a city after a year of a $250 billion of wildfire damage, and leave, as Secretary Besson said, the residents of California homeless while you're trolling President Trump.
00:49:16.620That's what we have from the Democrat Party. And it's actually a pretty serious indictment on all of the people in their party, and no policy positions.
00:49:27.140Katie, to hit what you just said, Kalshi's favorites to be nominated as the Democrat nominee in 2028.
00:49:36.120Gavin Newsom has a 35% chance. Second place is AOC at a 10% chance.
00:49:43.840So he has not only got the lead, he's got a pretty crazy, significantly, Josh Shapiro, 8% chance, Kamala Harris, 6% chance.
00:49:53.620So you're right. California Governor Gavin Newsom has soared. Do you think he is electable?
00:49:59.760Now, I know he's awful, and I know he's been a disaster for California, but take that away.
00:50:05.640Is he, could he beat J.D. Vance? Could he beat Marco Rubio?
00:50:09.820He, I think, is an adroit politician, sadly. And Democrats have shown, I mean, they almost elected Kamala Harris.
00:50:17.060I can't imagine Gavin Newsom would be a worse candidate than her.
00:50:19.900Right. So you look at those seven swing states that President Trump dominated against Kamala Harris, and he can't win a Pennsylvania and a Michigan and a Wisconsin, right?
00:50:33.020The first place he went was North Carolina to announce his kind of soft campaign, but not really.
00:50:39.800He did this squishy thing because he knows his state's a dumpster fire.
00:50:42.920But he's basically gone to North Carolina to soft campaign for the presidential.
00:50:49.120And you look at these swing states, and I don't think, it's my assessment, he cannot win those swing states against a J.D. Vance.
00:51:31.400And if the Democrat Party continues going on with Gavin Newsom, maybe we're going to get another clean sweep of those seven swing states with J.D. or Marco.
00:51:42.020So what's going on, Katie, with, I can't even believe I'm saying this, that Swalwell has been considered the frontrunner to take over Gavin's seat.
00:51:51.400Because, first of all, that means, Clay, now you're going to have Swalwell six buttons down.
00:51:56.800Buck, I actually think Swalwell is worse than Gavin Newsom.
00:52:00.180Like, I don't think Gavin Newsom is a moron.
00:52:02.700I think Swalwell is actually stupid and really kind of diabolical in his stupidity.
00:52:36.540And as he was trying, but even go back before they expose where his residency is, he was trying to say that he was going to revoke the driver's licenses for ICE agents.
00:52:47.800Now, why are ICE agents in California to begin with?
00:52:51.200Because Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris left the border wide open and we're having to deport criminals in our, quote, sanctuary state and sanctuary jurisdiction, which all just got noticed by President Trump.
00:53:03.040They are going to have federal funding revoked every sanctuary jurisdiction across the country because they are in violation of our supremacy clause.
00:53:11.680So Swalwell already is just falling flat on his face because he cannot revoke the driver's licenses of ICE agents in California.
00:54:50.680So Carl DeMaio, our assemblyman, led an assemblyman, led an initiative that's getting a lot of steam, including support, verbal support and ex-support from Elon Musk on voter ID in California.
00:55:02.700That is going to be on the ballot in 26, this this election cycle.
00:55:07.480And once that happens, I think we're going to see, including with voter rolls and new conservative and common sense and Republican voter registration.
00:55:16.060I think we will see a turnaround in California.
00:55:18.780I may be too optimistic and having lived in California my whole life, but people are sick and tired of these policies.
00:55:27.280They're sick and tired of the gas prices that are still high fours, low fives.
00:55:31.480And when we have voter ID and we regulate who goes to the ballot box to vote and you have to be a citizen, it's a game changer.
00:55:40.000And that's an 80-20 issue, believe it or not, in California.
00:55:43.660Once that's on the ballot, it's an easy yes for people.
00:55:46.860And we're going to see, in my mind, a big shift in the electorate, big shift in politicians, but not until then.
00:55:53.200I don't think 26 is winnable right now for a Republican without voter ID.
00:56:02.380What's the status of the wealth tax on the billionaires?
00:56:07.720Got a lot of media attention the last few weeks.
00:56:11.340Seems like it's, well, Minneapolis and Davos are certainly leading the news cycle right now.
00:56:17.360But there was, it seemed, a little bit of, wow, the numbers, you know, the math doesn't math, as the kids say, if these billionaires leave.