Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck

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00:00:04.220 Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.

00:00:09.160 We appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

00:00:11.760 Tom Holman started off the day bright and early 8 a.m. Eastern, 7 a.m. in Minneapolis.

00:00:20.040 I love it.

00:00:22.000 As a guy who used to get up early for radio, I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt,

00:00:29.020 but when I was on live at 5 a.m. Central every day for five years, nobody in media elsewhere was awake.

00:00:39.120 I have been on Radio Row for 5 a.m. starts when I was the only guy there.

00:00:45.500 Media hates getting up early in the morning, so I actually love Tom Holman starting off the day

00:00:53.400 and setting the agenda for the entire day with what I thought was an incredibly fantastic performance

00:01:00.820 at his press conference, and we're going to get into that.

00:01:04.720 President Trump right now is having a live cabinet meeting.

00:01:08.360 It has been going for about 20 minutes.

00:01:10.980 Judging by how these cabinet meetings have gone in the past, he may be talking for a couple of hours.

00:01:16.200 The most transparent and open administration that we have ever seen,

00:01:21.320 answering questions on every object under the sun.

00:01:25.820 We will discuss that as we are continuing to move through the program.

00:01:32.140 But, Buck, I would say major blockbuster revelations on Alex Preddy,

00:01:39.200 the hero nurse who was alleged to have been completely killed with no idea.

00:01:47.820 He was just a quiet standby protester, and this video that came out was,

00:01:55.500 it is echoed across the entire internet such that I think it's hard for reasonable people

00:02:03.940 who are not in complete left-wing silos to not say,

00:02:08.760 my goodness, this guy, again, I encourage you, if you haven't seen the video,

00:02:13.840 I understand a lot of you may not be active on social media,

00:02:17.540 Buck, about 10 days before the shooting, this Preddy character was out on the street screaming.

00:02:25.680 I don't even think we can play the video because there's so many curse words in it

00:02:29.480 at ICE agents to basically fight him with a lot of expletives included.

00:02:35.180 He then spits on them, and he kicks out the taillight of the vehicle that they are in.

00:02:42.500 The ICE agents get out of the vehicle, they tackle him,

00:02:45.760 and this to me is a good example of toxic empathy

00:02:49.640 because 1 billion percent the guy should have been arrested for attacking the vehicle,

00:02:56.580 for assault on ICE officials, for his behavior.

00:03:00.220 This was not a mentally stable individual,

00:03:02.980 and anybody who watches this is going to have a hard time believing,

00:03:09.860 and I want to play this, Anna Navarro cut 17 on CNN.

00:03:15.200 This whole narrative, much like the mom who just dropped her kids off story,

00:03:20.260 it's completely gone up in smoke, but here was Anna Navarro saying,

00:03:24.060 this is the perfect guy, the guy you want to date your daughter,

00:03:27.360 the man you want your son to be.

00:03:29.620 This is embarrassing for her in the wake of this latest video, cut 17.

00:03:34.540 They killed the wrong guy, right?

00:03:36.200 Because this is like the perfect guy.

00:03:39.400 Alex Preddy is the guy you would want to date your daughter,

00:03:42.500 the guy you would want your son to grow up to be,

00:03:45.300 a decent human being who was serving humanity,

00:03:48.920 serving sick veterans who is, you know,

00:03:52.960 there is nothing that has been said about that man that isn't wonderful,

00:03:56.380 and so they can't malign him.

00:03:59.060 They can't malign him because we have the videos.

00:04:03.040 All right, Buck, this video came out.

00:04:05.260 I know you've been reacting to it.

00:04:06.600 I've been reacting to it.

00:04:07.520 My hope is my mother-in-law is staying with us because her power is still out.

00:04:11.280 She said, nobody who needs to see this video is going to see it,

00:04:14.600 so there may be wisdom from my mother-in-law there,

00:04:18.060 but what were your thoughts when you saw this video of hero nurse Alex Preddy?

00:04:24.760 Well, first off, on the CNN side of this,

00:04:27.780 if you think that she's going to be embarrassed by the truth,

00:04:30.020 you don't understand the nature of CNN.

00:04:33.120 As I put on X, this is her job.

00:04:35.680 Her job is to lie, to make the audience believe whatever they want to believe.

00:04:39.840 So she did her job.

00:04:40.800 There's no shame in lying at CNN as long as they're pleasant lies that Libs wish to hear.

00:04:47.860 That is the gig.

00:04:50.200 And as for watching this video, it's interesting, Clay,

00:04:53.720 because we were trying to be, as we always try to be,

00:04:58.140 very fair and adhere to the facts as they came out about all of this.

00:05:05.840 And yet yesterday, several times, I used the word to describe this guy,

00:05:11.020 that he was a loon, a lunatic.

00:05:15.120 And that was quite obvious, even from just the initial exchange.

00:05:20.040 Now, while you have Anna Navarro and CNN saying this guy was basically some kind of saint,

00:05:25.540 and you have MSNBC pretending that he's much more handsome than he was,

00:05:30.520 which, by the way, shouldn't matter at all,

00:05:32.080 but it matters to that audience because they're creating a narrative and they're making a fable.

00:05:36.060 This is a myth.

00:05:37.400 This is myth-making they are engaged in.

00:05:40.500 But then you turn on this program, and we're saying,

00:05:42.740 well, the guy's clearly a lunatic.

00:05:44.700 And then video comes out showing, yeah, he's clearly a lunatic.

00:05:48.240 But we were saying that before the video came out,

00:05:50.240 because we actually do analysis here and use deductive reasoning

00:05:54.080 and think things through and care about being right

00:05:57.640 and be honest with you all the time.

00:06:01.800 So it's just interesting to see how quickly this thing caved.

00:06:04.380 Yet again, there are people, especially, you know, on, I would say, Monday, Clay,

00:06:08.940 there are a lot of conservatives, maybe put that in quotes,

00:06:12.720 but a lot of people on the right put that in quotes.

00:06:15.000 Oh, I think we need to, like, really reassess everything.

00:06:17.940 No, we do not need to reassess deporting millions of illegals

00:06:21.520 who don't have a right to be in the country,

00:06:23.620 and we certainly don't need to reassess prioritizing the deportation

00:06:28.760 of true public safety threats, scary violent criminals in many cases,

00:06:34.300 rapists, murderers, etc., who are in the country illegally

00:06:37.680 and already have deportation orders and who Democrats are harboring

00:06:40.780 and sheltering and obstructing law enforcement efforts to deport.

00:06:46.300 You know, some people fell for this, and I sit here and I go,

00:06:51.160 you know, these are like, it's the same routine from the lib media

00:06:55.020 over and over again.

00:06:56.300 No, now you finally, you finally have to agree with us

00:07:00.040 because of how horrible this, no, no, sorry.

00:07:03.960 That's not going to work this time.

00:07:05.640 Didn't work last time or the time before that, not on this show.

00:07:09.120 But I think it just goes to show you, man, they will do anything, Clay.

00:07:13.140 They will lie, they will cheat, they will steal, they will use AI

00:07:17.140 to give someone a square jaw and a winning smile,

00:07:20.660 whatever they have to do to get the easily fooled, the low IQ,

00:07:25.900 and the cowardly to go along with the abandonment

00:07:30.320 of this central effort of the Trump administration.

00:07:32.820 So I just, I feel very good about the analysis we did here on this.

00:07:36.800 By the way, I still think he's probably going to get a huge judgment

00:07:38.880 from the city because now you're going to get into,

00:07:41.420 well, that doesn't change the, okay, but we all know what really went on here, right?

00:07:45.980 You know, we all know that this guy was quite truly,

00:07:49.660 literally asking for it in that video.

00:07:52.280 Assault me, you, you know, MF and this and cursing and everything.

00:07:55.640 Can we pull that for the team and edit the,

00:07:58.660 but I do think the vile nature of his interactions with ICE,

00:08:03.700 this audience should hear what he was screaming on that video.

00:08:07.540 Again, we've got FCC restrictions, so we'll edit out the curse words.

00:08:12.120 But yes, look, and do you agree with me, by the way,

00:08:15.700 that if that guy, if he had been arrested,

00:08:19.540 if he had been arrested on that day,

00:08:22.280 I think there's a decent chance he might well still be alive

00:08:25.640 because one of the things that unfortunately happens

00:08:28.860 when you allow violent, crazy behavior to continue,

00:08:34.440 you incentivize more violent, crazy behavior.

00:08:38.460 And look, this is why I said, people got mad at me.

00:08:40.960 Some people were like, oh my God,

00:08:41.980 this is why I said Tim Walls and Jacob Fry have blood on their hands

00:08:46.360 because this guy thinks he's a hero

00:08:49.100 and he is taking direction from them.

00:08:52.700 And so the family, by the way,

00:08:55.060 for anybody out there who is questioning,

00:08:56.840 is this video real?

00:08:57.740 Because it is a reality, sadly, that we're going to be in now

00:09:00.940 where every video that comes out,

00:09:03.000 people are going to say it's AI

00:09:04.240 if it has a story that may have evidence that they don't like.

00:09:08.500 The family has acknowledged it's him.

00:09:10.780 There is zero dispute that he attacked ICE agents

00:09:14.820 in the time leading up.

00:09:16.800 Buck, I bet there's a bunch of other videos

00:09:18.760 of him engaging in behavior just like this.

00:09:21.600 He wanted to have a confrontation with ICE.

00:09:24.520 It's why he had the gun.

00:09:26.040 It's why he behaved the way that he did.

00:09:29.100 And frankly, it's a reality of where we are

00:09:33.940 that he engaged in behavior

00:09:36.800 that was intended to provoke confrontation.

00:09:40.000 And unfortunately for him,

00:09:41.100 he got a confrontation that ended up being fatal.

00:09:43.500 But this was not some accidental incident

00:09:47.160 or some completely innocent bystander

00:09:49.960 who found himself dragged into a violent encounter.

00:09:53.340 He'd been seeking this for weeks.

00:09:56.120 Yeah, I mean, this is the reality of the situation

00:10:00.620 unfolding before us, Clay,

00:10:03.640 is they try to convince everyone this guy,

00:10:06.420 as we heard that one preposterous clip on CNN,

00:10:08.780 but her job, that woman,

00:10:10.920 she's one of the dumbest commentators on TV

00:10:12.680 and her job is to say stuff like that.

00:10:14.360 So, like I said,

00:10:15.760 she's not embarrassed.

00:10:17.120 Wouldn't change a word of it now.

00:10:18.880 It doesn't matter.

00:10:20.540 This guy was supposed to be,

00:10:22.400 oh, it could have been your dad.

00:10:23.920 It could have been your brother or your friend

00:10:25.620 or your coworker, your next door neighbor.

00:10:28.060 This guy's as American as apple pie.

00:10:30.080 No, he's actually a lunatic

00:10:31.260 who runs at cops and spits in their faces

00:10:34.420 and kicks their cars

00:10:35.840 because he doesn't want the enforcement

00:10:37.860 of completely legitimate laws

00:10:40.180 passed by the United States Congress,

00:10:42.600 enforced by people like Barack Obama,

00:10:44.620 I might add, among other Democrats.

00:10:46.320 We might get to some of those

00:10:47.300 old Obama clips coming up.

00:10:49.200 He's like, look, I know people want to be here,

00:10:50.640 but you got to go.

00:10:52.380 So, we're seeing that, once again,

00:10:57.080 the martyrs of the left are maniacs

00:10:58.420 and their heroes are actually often criminals,

00:11:05.320 frauds, maniacs themselves.

00:11:07.920 So, this is something that I think is a reminder

00:11:10.720 for anybody who started to fall for this.

00:11:12.660 Look, it doesn't mean that the shooting

00:11:15.260 wasn't possibly an overreaction by ICE

00:11:19.720 under the situation.

00:11:20.620 We got to have a full investigation.

00:11:22.000 We got to see all the body camera footage.

00:11:23.840 But this guy was truly asking for exactly

00:11:27.100 what we saw,

00:11:28.580 which is multiple violent encounters

00:11:30.280 with immigration and custom enforcement.

00:11:31.820 If you play this game with cops

00:11:33.360 and you get shot,

00:11:34.680 you ask for the dangerous situation to happen.

00:11:38.260 And that is unfortunately how this tragedy

00:11:40.820 came to an end.

00:11:43.640 And for anybody out there to build on Buck

00:11:46.540 who said, oh my goodness,

00:11:48.300 we've got to consider,

00:11:50.040 oh, we've got to pull out of Minneapolis.

00:11:52.240 Oh my goodness, this is unacceptable.

00:11:54.180 This is, I think,

00:11:57.180 a strong evidence yet again

00:11:59.720 to wait and see most of these people

00:12:02.080 are engaging in violent behavior

00:12:04.920 and trying to incite this kind of outcome, sadly.

00:12:09.280 And Democrats bragged about wanting it in July.

00:12:12.380 The other thing I would say about this, Buck,

00:12:14.380 as we get ready to go to break here,

00:12:16.420 is I do think this could be

00:12:19.440 substantial evidence of his behavior.

00:12:21.980 Now, it doesn't justify the shooting,

00:12:24.840 but if they find more and more videos

00:12:27.000 of him engaging in behavior

00:12:29.220 and there is some sort of knowledge

00:12:32.260 about this guy,

00:12:34.400 which maybe there was,

00:12:35.980 it wouldn't be crazy to say,

00:12:37.260 hey, this guy kicked our taillights out.

00:12:38.960 These guys talk.

00:12:39.780 I believe that was ICE.

00:12:40.820 Border Patrol was involved in the shooting.

00:12:43.060 There are a bunch of different agencies

00:12:44.340 involved here.

00:12:46.180 But this is, yet again,

00:12:48.360 evidence that these are not heroes.

00:12:50.120 These are, to a large part,

00:12:52.960 mentally unstable wackadoodles

00:12:54.980 who are trying to create violent situations

00:12:59.340 for our federal law enforcement.

00:13:01.160 And there are people,

00:13:02.420 and I think this is important, Clay,

00:13:05.120 there are people who are making,

00:13:07.820 you know, two, three hundred grand

00:13:09.920 to sit around and write garbage

00:13:12.520 at the Washington Post,

00:13:14.060 and people making millions of dollars

00:13:16.080 sitting in CNN studios

00:13:17.860 and MSNOW and ABC News

00:13:19.420 and these places

00:13:20.200 who know that they are preying

00:13:22.660 on the deranged

00:13:24.180 and know that they are going

00:13:25.940 to get people like this guy

00:13:27.700 so riled up

00:13:29.200 that they do stupid

00:13:30.900 and dangerous things

00:13:32.200 and they don't care.

00:13:34.340 Because if it's in any way

00:13:37.000 allowing them to play out

00:13:39.380 their emotional combat

00:13:41.000 with Donald Trump,

00:13:43.420 they're totally accepting

00:13:44.820 of whatever casualties

00:13:46.200 in that battle are necessary.

00:13:47.880 That's the real truth.

00:13:49.640 Really, the sick part of this all

00:13:51.300 is that they encourage

00:13:52.380 Freddie to do what he did.

00:13:54.540 He died.

00:13:55.560 They're using him,

00:13:56.700 and they don't actually care

00:13:57.740 about the next Freddie at all

00:13:58.880 because if they did,

00:13:59.640 they would stop saying

00:14:00.740 that these are Nazis

00:14:02.100 or even worse than Nazis

00:14:03.920 in Minneapolis.

00:14:05.320 They don't care.

00:14:06.640 Yes.

00:14:07.540 Totally using these people.

00:14:09.100 Totally using Jimmy Kimmel,

00:14:10.520 tears.

00:14:11.500 Natalie Portman, by the way,

00:14:12.900 among the most overrated

00:14:14.480 in every respect

00:14:15.640 on the planet,

00:14:16.700 Natalie Portman.

00:14:17.860 My list of the most overrated.

00:14:19.720 I'm not trying to get

00:14:20.320 into a whole digression.

00:14:21.340 Natalie Portman,

00:14:23.060 absolutely.

00:14:23.900 Oh, I can't co-sign there.

00:14:25.500 I think she's actually

00:14:26.420 a talented actress.

00:14:28.140 No.

00:14:28.360 Did you see The Black Swan?

00:14:30.340 No.

00:14:30.560 She was very good

00:14:31.300 in The Black Swan.

00:14:32.320 No.

00:14:32.440 It was an awful,

00:14:32.920 scary movie.

00:14:33.880 Garbage.

00:14:34.360 Look, she's not that pretty

00:14:35.920 because we're always told,

00:14:37.200 and I know you're going

00:14:37.680 to say that's mean.

00:14:38.560 She's a famous actress

00:14:40.120 worth $100 million.

00:14:41.160 We're always told

00:14:41.540 she's the most beautiful woman

00:14:42.400 in the world.

00:14:42.840 She's okay.

00:14:43.960 She's okay.

00:14:45.080 Natalie Portman.

00:14:46.300 I did not think

00:14:47.120 you were just going to take

00:14:47.820 a two-by-four

00:14:48.560 to Natalie Portman today.

00:14:50.000 Just not that good.

00:14:51.280 Not that cute.

00:14:51.740 She was pretty good.

00:14:52.360 She was pretty good

00:14:53.060 in the Star Wars movies.

00:14:55.460 A lot of, you know,

00:14:56.080 kind of looks like

00:14:56.980 a 14-year-old boy

00:14:57.980 a lot of the time.

00:14:58.760 I'm just saying,

00:14:59.400 I'm not a fan.

00:15:00.340 Not a fan.

00:15:01.880 Where were we?

00:15:03.220 You've got to read.

00:15:04.060 I mean, Natalie Portman

00:15:06.660 was a secret fan,

00:15:08.120 and she's just driving

00:15:09.200 her set in Hollywood

00:15:10.360 right now.

00:15:11.280 Definitely not a secret fan.

00:15:12.260 And she's under the radar.

00:15:14.040 She loves Clay and Buck,

00:15:15.300 and you just torpedoed that

00:15:17.240 right off the bat here,

00:15:19.280 off the top of the show.

00:15:20.100 You know, her name was Natalie.

00:15:21.140 Her name was,

00:15:22.140 true story,

00:15:22.760 her name was Natalie Horschlag.

00:15:25.700 That's her real name.

00:15:27.120 Yeah.

00:15:27.440 I understand why

00:15:28.340 she changed her name.

00:15:29.420 I understand why

00:15:30.060 she changed her name, too.

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00:17:29.360 Clay Travis,

00:17:30.680 Buck Sexton Show.

00:17:32.160 President Trump

00:17:33.460 having a

00:17:34.780 cabinet meeting

00:17:36.600 today.

00:17:37.500 And we've got a funny

00:17:38.700 cut from President Trump

00:17:40.240 about trying to keep

00:17:41.380 the cabinet meeting

00:17:42.100 shorter because

00:17:42.860 even he got bored

00:17:43.900 when it went on

00:17:44.900 for so long

00:17:46.200 recently.

00:17:47.840 But

00:17:48.020 I believe we have

00:17:49.900 removed

00:17:50.620 the expletives

00:17:51.880 from this.

00:17:52.560 But I did think

00:17:53.640 it was important

00:17:54.440 for you to hear

00:17:55.760 what Alex

00:17:57.020 Peretti

00:17:57.500 was saying

00:17:58.560 to the

00:18:00.220 ICE agents

00:18:01.200 about 11 days

00:18:02.780 before he was shot.

00:18:04.700 Here he is.

00:18:05.720 Well,

00:18:05.900 just,

00:18:06.380 I mean,

00:18:06.600 it was,

00:18:07.420 think of like

00:18:08.020 the founding fathers

00:18:08.920 and the great rhetoric

00:18:09.880 of our nation.

00:18:10.840 I was amazed.

00:18:11.860 You know,

00:18:11.980 he came forth

00:18:12.660 and he said,

00:18:13.260 hear ye,

00:18:13.680 hear ye.

00:18:14.520 I speaketh on behalf

00:18:15.960 of my First Amendment

00:18:16.840 rights of this great

00:18:17.840 nation of patriots

00:18:19.060 to address you

00:18:20.620 with my grievances

00:18:21.760 or Clay

00:18:23.840 this way.

00:18:25.580 Yes.

00:18:26.200 Listen.

00:18:27.860 F***ing you!

00:18:29.160 That's a straight

00:18:30.100 bitch!

00:18:31.280 F***ing something

00:18:32.320 over here!

00:18:33.340 F***ing you guys!

00:18:37.140 F***ing trash!

00:18:39.880 F***ing trash!

00:18:44.880 Okay,

00:18:45.600 so it's a little bit

00:18:46.340 hard to hear

00:18:46.900 because of all the background.

00:18:47.820 Give me liberty or give me death

00:18:48.700 to this.

00:18:49.380 Patrick Henry.

00:18:49.760 It's a little bit of a,

00:18:50.540 yeah.

00:18:50.740 I would say,

00:18:52.480 Buck,

00:18:52.700 this was devastating

00:18:53.940 to the argument

00:18:55.260 of Alex Peretti's

00:18:57.840 overall saintliness.

00:19:00.940 If only for this reason.

00:19:02.900 When I first shared this video,

00:19:04.900 I actually went in the comments.

00:19:06.380 I don't spend a lot of time

00:19:07.360 in the comments necessarily

00:19:08.420 unless I think you're going

00:19:09.380 to make me laugh

00:19:10.380 and a lot of times

00:19:11.080 you guys do.

00:19:12.940 But I went in

00:19:14.400 and I was

00:19:16.180 surprised

00:19:17.500 by how many

00:19:19.300 left-wingers

00:19:20.220 were in the comments

00:19:21.340 immediately saying,

00:19:23.240 this is AI,

00:19:24.100 this isn't real.

00:19:25.600 Because

00:19:26.160 I think they recognized

00:19:28.260 and then almost immediately

00:19:29.360 to their credit,

00:19:30.380 the Minneapolis Star Tribune,

00:19:32.420 which is

00:19:32.940 basically

00:19:33.740 left-wing slop

00:19:35.020 in Minneapolis,

00:19:36.260 they came out

00:19:37.200 and they said,

00:19:37.960 oh,

00:19:38.820 sorry,

00:19:39.740 this is,

00:19:40.380 this is real.

00:19:41.560 and it feels like

00:19:43.900 this story

00:19:44.620 has to a large extent

00:19:46.260 Buck vanished.

00:19:47.680 Like,

00:19:47.920 I'm watching my quad box here.

00:19:50.140 Nobody is talking about

00:19:51.440 Alex Peretti today

00:19:52.580 after that video

00:19:54.300 came out.

00:19:55.160 They've actually shifted

00:19:56.100 to talking a lot

00:19:57.040 about the FBI

00:19:57.840 seizing 700 boxes

00:19:59.360 in Atlanta.

00:20:01.440 This is a very,

00:20:02.240 very prescient moment

00:20:04.340 to talk about

00:20:05.220 manufacturing delusion,

00:20:06.540 which is available

00:20:07.000 for pre-sale now,

00:20:07.940 Clay,

00:20:08.200 where there's a whole chapter

00:20:09.620 on how

00:20:10.400 not only is AI

00:20:11.920 going to be used

00:20:13.760 for disinformation purposes,

00:20:15.780 et cetera,

00:20:16.200 as it already is,

00:20:17.400 but people

00:20:18.200 will seize on AI

00:20:20.620 to continue

00:20:21.760 with their own prejudices

00:20:23.820 about different situations,

00:20:25.740 meaning

00:20:26.120 all you have to,

00:20:27.640 it doesn't matter

00:20:28.440 if it's verified or not.

00:20:29.820 If someone believes,

00:20:30.940 for example,

00:20:31.640 that,

00:20:31.900 you know,

00:20:32.740 Trump used Putin

00:20:34.020 to hack into voting machines

00:20:35.440 in 2016,

00:20:36.880 you create

00:20:37.660 some video,

00:20:38.700 you create

00:20:39.300 some basis

00:20:40.100 for this,

00:20:40.680 and people will believe

00:20:41.440 what they want to believe.

00:20:43.080 Even if it's fake

00:20:44.120 and they're told it's fake,

00:20:45.080 they'll say,

00:20:45.420 no,

00:20:45.600 I don't believe

00:20:46.160 that it's fake,

00:20:46.720 right?

00:20:46.960 So this is what,

00:20:47.980 you are seeing that

00:20:48.720 with Preddy right now.

00:20:49.780 That's exactly

00:20:50.300 what's going on.

00:20:50.920 They're going,

00:20:51.240 oh,

00:20:51.720 there must be AI.

00:20:53.460 It's not that people,

00:20:54.900 if they're told it's AI,

00:20:56.300 will necessarily wake up,

00:20:58.100 they'll believe the AI

00:20:59.280 when they want

00:20:59.940 to believe the AI.

00:21:00.900 That's the world

00:21:02.080 that we are very quickly

00:21:03.480 realizing we are in.

00:21:05.100 And Clay,

00:21:05.340 one other thing about this,

00:21:06.260 I think,

00:21:06.560 just be prepared,

00:21:09.000 all of a sudden

00:21:09.620 you're having these people

00:21:10.160 say,

00:21:10.400 well,

00:21:10.480 this doesn't matter

00:21:11.380 at all.

00:21:12.440 What he did before

00:21:13.560 doesn't matter,

00:21:14.300 and who he was

00:21:14.980 doesn't matter,

00:21:15.760 and oh,

00:21:16.180 okay.

00:21:17.100 So for a few days

00:21:18.520 we're told,

00:21:19.780 this guy,

00:21:20.840 he's a nurse,

00:21:22.360 he's a,

00:21:22.820 was he a veteran?

00:21:23.560 I heard someone

00:21:24.140 say that,

00:21:24.640 I don't even know.

00:21:25.160 All that mattered

00:21:25.940 for the past,

00:21:27.200 once he was shot,

00:21:28.620 all that mattered

00:21:29.400 was his past history

00:21:30.740 in life

00:21:31.420 as evidence

00:21:32.220 of why he shouldn't

00:21:33.180 have been shot.

00:21:33.500 He was,

00:21:34.660 we were basically

00:21:35.540 getting the New York Times

00:21:37.320 having people

00:21:38.480 talk about how

00:21:39.220 in high school

00:21:39.740 he helped an old lady

00:21:40.720 across the street

00:21:41.540 and gave up his seat

00:21:42.680 on the bus once

00:21:43.480 in 1987 or something.

00:21:45.040 I mean,

00:21:45.300 that's all we're being told.

00:21:46.720 What a great human being he is.

00:21:48.280 I was just waiting

00:21:49.040 for the George Floyd-esque

00:21:50.860 murals to start popping up

00:21:52.300 in Minneapolis,

00:21:53.340 of course with him,

00:21:55.380 with the new square jaw

00:21:56.740 and the incredible good looks

00:21:58.340 and everything

00:21:58.700 that they had fabricated

00:21:59.740 for him,

00:22:00.140 but like we're getting ready.

00:22:01.400 So the fact that he was

00:22:02.720 so amazing,

00:22:03.440 Clay,

00:22:04.060 was a huge part

00:22:04.860 of the news cycle

00:22:05.700 until it becomes clear

00:22:07.100 that actually people

00:22:08.060 who know him said

00:22:08.880 he had essentially,

00:22:09.920 Clay,

00:22:10.480 radicalized.

00:22:11.600 This guy was

00:22:12.420 an anti-ice jihadist,

00:22:14.680 effectively.

00:22:15.860 He was getting weird,

00:22:16.860 his family thought

00:22:18.140 he was getting weird,

00:22:19.120 something had happened

00:22:19.820 to him,

00:22:20.700 and then what kind

00:22:21.880 of normal person

00:22:22.620 shows up and does this

00:22:23.760 at ice officers

00:22:24.940 in a protest?

00:22:25.760 I'm talking about

00:22:26.240 the stuff that's

00:22:26.980 on the video now,

00:22:27.920 never mind the stuff

00:22:28.620 that led to him

00:22:29.140 getting shot,

00:22:29.620 which also was bizarre.

00:22:31.580 The guy's a loon.

00:22:32.980 But now it doesn't matter

00:22:34.160 that he's a loon.

00:22:34.960 For days we were told

00:22:36.020 he was,

00:22:36.860 you know,

00:22:37.420 a cross between

00:22:38.380 Mother Teresa

00:22:38.980 and Brad Pitt,

00:22:40.280 and now it's

00:22:41.060 how dare you.

00:22:41.960 All that matters

00:22:42.660 is whether or not

00:22:43.260 he brandished his gun

00:22:44.380 in the moment

00:22:44.780 he was shot.

00:22:45.540 Oh, okay,

00:22:46.020 that's how the game

00:22:46.980 is played.

00:22:47.740 I also think

00:22:48.960 this is so incredibly

00:22:50.680 important associated

00:22:51.980 with this,

00:22:53.160 and it is this fact.

00:22:56.420 As he was engaging

00:22:58.100 in this behavior,

00:22:59.480 he should have been

00:23:00.480 arrested.

00:23:01.520 We've got to arrest

00:23:02.840 all of these people,

00:23:04.600 because if we don't,

00:23:06.580 in addition to the fact

00:23:07.540 that they're radicalized,

00:23:09.120 Buck,

00:23:09.360 when he kicked

00:23:10.040 the taillight

00:23:10.740 of that car out,

00:23:12.380 and when he spit

00:23:13.280 on ICE agents

00:23:14.460 and nothing

00:23:15.360 happened to him,

00:23:16.840 it emboldens him

00:23:18.140 to act out

00:23:19.160 more recklessly

00:23:20.240 because he's seen

00:23:21.640 what he can get away with.

00:23:23.120 And so we're actually,

00:23:24.300 the empathy here

00:23:25.240 of not arresting

00:23:26.640 these protesters

00:23:27.400 is actually toxic

00:23:28.840 in the end result,

00:23:29.720 because I do think

00:23:30.540 if he'd been arrested

00:23:31.320 that time,

00:23:32.160 I think he probably

00:23:33.300 would be alive today.

00:23:34.380 I really do.

00:23:35.420 Accountability matters.

00:23:38.080 And accountability matters

00:23:39.440 in these criminal issues.

00:23:41.900 It matters as just a person

00:23:43.420 in your day-to-day life.

00:23:44.340 Clay, I'm always reminded

00:23:45.900 of this.

00:23:46.760 Remember the Duke Lacrosse case,

00:23:48.240 which now the old

00:23:49.020 Stephen Miller footage

00:23:49.820 is showing up,

00:23:50.420 where Stephen Miller

00:23:50.940 was like totally

00:23:52.160 on the right side of that,

00:23:53.340 and that was a real moment.

00:23:54.440 That was before you

00:23:54.980 or I were doing media.

00:23:56.680 That was a real moment, though.

00:23:58.080 I mean, they were just

00:23:58.480 trying to railroad those kids,

00:24:00.020 and I had some kind of

00:24:01.320 third-order family connections

00:24:03.140 to one of them,

00:24:04.180 where someone in my family

00:24:05.420 is very close to someone

00:24:06.160 who's very close

00:24:06.720 to one of the kids,

00:24:08.060 and we knew

00:24:10.140 that they were getting

00:24:10.700 railroaded,

00:24:11.180 the whole thing.

00:24:11.900 I bring it up, Clay,

00:24:12.640 because the accuser,

00:24:14.260 who was just a liar

00:24:15.100 and tried to ruin

00:24:16.040 people's lives,

00:24:17.440 she should have been

00:24:18.060 prosecuted for making

00:24:19.100 false statements

00:24:19.820 about a felony matter,

00:24:20.960 especially a felony

00:24:21.680 sex crime.

00:24:23.000 She should have,

00:24:23.660 because it's not that

00:24:24.920 they couldn't prove

00:24:25.940 the Duke Lacrosse players,

00:24:27.620 I know we're going back

00:24:28.260 to what, 2005?

00:24:29.620 I'm looking it up right now

00:24:30.860 because I was like,

00:24:31.880 what year is this actually?

00:24:32.880 It's not that they

00:24:33.560 couldn't prove

00:24:34.220 the Duke Lacrosse players

00:24:35.660 were, you know,

00:24:37.740 it's not a not guilty thing,

00:24:39.060 it's that they were

00:24:39.500 innocent, okay?

00:24:40.360 They weren't even there.

00:24:42.020 The whole thing was absurd.

00:24:44.020 2006.

00:24:45.220 2006, close.

00:24:46.580 Fast forward,

00:24:47.520 you know that they

00:24:48.040 didn't bring any charges

00:24:48.920 against the accuser

00:24:49.900 who lied,

00:24:50.660 and that is a crime,

00:24:51.680 and they knew that she lied,

00:24:53.120 and then she went on

00:24:53.740 and murdered somebody,

00:24:55.040 stabbed him to death.

00:24:56.420 Now you could say,

00:24:57.560 okay, well,

00:24:58.440 one thing doesn't,

00:24:59.580 actually I think

00:25:00.800 it would have been

00:25:01.100 better off if she

00:25:01.800 had had to face the music

00:25:02.720 on trying to ruin

00:25:03.940 people's lives.

00:25:05.000 I think it would be

00:25:05.540 better for her

00:25:06.100 to have to look in the mirror,

00:25:07.120 maybe spend a year or two

00:25:07.960 in prison for what she did

00:25:09.660 instead of getting

00:25:10.840 15 to life,

00:25:11.680 which is I think

00:25:12.120 what she ended up getting

00:25:12.840 for murder,

00:25:13.740 for stabbing a guy to death.

00:25:15.000 You hit on something

00:25:16.280 that I want to continue

00:25:18.340 to hammer

00:25:19.000 and I think should be

00:25:20.140 standard in America.

00:25:21.680 If you accuse

00:25:22.860 someone of a crime,

00:25:24.080 it could be a sex crime,

00:25:25.000 it could be any crime,

00:25:26.320 and you are able

00:25:27.440 to be proven

00:25:28.260 to have lied,

00:25:29.260 which actually

00:25:30.020 is becoming

00:25:30.500 very common now

00:25:31.480 because there's lots

00:25:32.060 of text message evidence,

00:25:33.680 you know,

00:25:33.880 the technology as such,

00:25:35.580 you should be charged

00:25:37.160 and face

00:25:38.060 the exact same punishment

00:25:40.340 that the person

00:25:41.360 would have faced

00:25:42.420 if you had been able

00:25:44.000 to convict them.

00:25:44.960 In other words,

00:25:45.920 if you accuse

00:25:46.720 someone of rape

00:25:47.520 and you made that up

00:25:48.960 like the Duke La Crosse case,

00:25:50.760 when you are proven

00:25:51.880 to be a liar

00:25:52.900 as happened

00:25:54.020 in Duke La Crosse,

00:25:55.640 she should have faced

00:25:57.020 the exact same punishment

00:25:58.640 that all of those

00:25:59.900 Duke La Crosse players

00:26:01.160 would have faced

00:26:01.920 if they had been convicted.

00:26:04.120 There's a mutuality.

00:26:05.520 I think there should be

00:26:06.300 a mutuality in the law

00:26:07.620 because we have to treat lies

00:26:09.720 as more consequential

00:26:11.460 because, again,

00:26:12.240 to your point, Buck,

00:26:13.200 process as the punishment.

00:26:15.000 Once you're a guy,

00:26:17.100 if you're accused of rape,

00:26:18.600 they put your name

00:26:19.400 out everywhere,

00:26:20.780 everybody sees it,

00:26:22.140 you may get kicked

00:26:22.760 out of school,

00:26:23.380 you lose your job,

00:26:24.360 everything else.

00:26:25.660 It's happened to members

00:26:26.440 of this administration.

00:26:28.240 Yes.

00:26:28.940 And if it later comes out

00:26:30.260 that it isn't true,

00:26:32.040 there are absolutely

00:26:33.460 no consequences

00:26:34.520 for the woman

00:26:35.400 because we have

00:26:36.080 a rape shield law

00:26:37.100 in place.

00:26:37.800 So the mutuality

00:26:39.460 of danger,

00:26:41.360 the mutuality

00:26:42.200 of potential punishment

00:26:43.180 doesn't exist.

00:26:44.480 I think we should have

00:26:45.560 mirror laws.

00:26:47.280 That's fine.

00:26:47.780 If you commit

00:26:48.760 a sexual assault,

00:26:49.640 you should go to prison

00:26:50.400 for the rest of your life

00:26:51.380 or however long

00:26:52.200 the statute show,

00:26:53.300 right?

00:26:54.060 But if you make it up,

00:26:55.740 you should be prosecuted

00:26:57.260 and charged

00:26:57.940 to the full extent

00:26:58.940 of the law.

00:26:59.760 You're walking though into,

00:27:01.000 I mean,

00:27:01.200 by the way,

00:27:01.700 I agree with you,

00:27:02.340 but you're walking

00:27:03.720 into a level of nuance

00:27:04.940 that a lot of people

00:27:05.640 are going to immediately

00:27:06.280 skip past,

00:27:07.060 which is they're going

00:27:07.600 to say,

00:27:08.060 now no one's going

00:27:09.020 to want to file

00:27:10.300 a rape claim

00:27:10.780 or whatever.

00:27:11.100 It's not if you can't

00:27:13.560 prove beyond a reasonable

00:27:15.120 doubt that the offender

00:27:17.000 did it.

00:27:18.440 That's the standard.

00:27:19.800 It can be proven

00:27:21.440 beyond any doubt,

00:27:23.460 beyond a reasonable doubt,

00:27:24.820 that you lied

00:27:26.960 about the entire thing.

00:27:28.520 Yes.

00:27:28.880 That's a very high standard,

00:27:31.400 but in the situation

00:27:33.140 like the Rolling Stone case,

00:27:34.800 another very well-known one,

00:27:37.140 well, I mean,

00:27:37.660 now that didn't go

00:27:38.880 to a criminal case,

00:27:39.540 but I'm just saying

00:27:39.980 in a situation where someone

00:27:40.880 just completely fabricates

00:27:42.120 something.

00:27:42.240 People cross is the

00:27:42.900 perfect example.

00:27:44.100 To your point,

00:27:44.900 like that woman lied,

00:27:46.240 those women lied.

00:27:47.460 They should have been

00:27:48.380 prosecuted to the full

00:27:49.500 extent of the law.

00:27:50.420 There might be someone

00:27:51.080 alive if they had done it.

00:27:53.440 And again,

00:27:54.220 this is proving

00:27:55.160 that you lied.

00:27:56.040 Proving that you lied

00:27:56.680 is hard standard, right?

00:27:57.820 So there's still

00:27:58.480 an ability to lie,

00:27:59.840 but if you get proven

00:28:00.600 to lie,

00:28:01.320 there should be way

00:28:02.040 more consequences

00:28:02.720 than just,

00:28:03.720 oh, the guy's innocent.

00:28:05.040 It was,

00:28:06.020 that is,

00:28:06.640 the actual,

00:28:08.260 by statute,

00:28:08.940 they should have

00:28:10.260 been prosecuted

00:28:10.920 by statute,

00:28:12.580 the DA,

00:28:12.940 but they decided

00:28:13.600 not to

00:28:14.400 because of all

00:28:15.640 the stuff.

00:28:16.360 So it is illegal

00:28:17.280 to do it.

00:28:17.760 They just decided

00:28:18.220 not to bring the charge.

00:28:19.140 Why are we talking

00:28:19.800 about this?

00:28:20.440 Pretty.

00:28:21.460 How is this guy

00:28:22.660 still running around

00:28:23.500 doing this stuff?

00:28:24.160 You can spit

00:28:25.560 in an ICE officer's face

00:28:26.920 and kick the taillight

00:28:28.820 and face no consequences?

00:28:31.280 You can attack

00:28:32.380 government vehicles

00:28:33.220 and personnel

00:28:33.940 and face no consequences

00:28:35.400 at all?

00:28:36.740 That's where we are?

00:28:38.220 It's weird

00:28:38.720 because I remember

00:28:40.260 with January 6th,

00:28:41.580 if you walk

00:28:42.380 into the Capitol

00:28:43.200 building for less

00:28:45.060 than a minute,

00:28:45.600 ask Julie Kelly

00:28:46.420 and she followed

00:28:47.240 these cases all

00:28:47.940 so closely

00:28:48.540 and she followed

00:28:49.060 them and a lot

00:28:49.440 of people had

00:28:49.840 kind of forgotten

00:28:50.340 about them,

00:28:50.820 by the way,

00:28:51.140 which is one

00:28:51.480 of the reasons

00:28:51.800 why we have

00:28:52.200 so much respect

00:28:52.720 for Julie

00:28:53.100 on this show

00:28:53.720 and we tried

00:28:55.000 to elevate

00:28:55.740 these cases.

00:28:56.540 I donated a bunch

00:28:57.340 of money

00:28:57.720 so they could

00:28:58.220 get lawyers

00:28:58.980 for people

00:28:59.980 who have forgotten.

00:29:00.860 It was nice

00:29:01.240 you,

00:29:01.460 but you're rich.

00:29:02.340 But you know,

00:29:03.500 it was crazy

00:29:06.580 what they were

00:29:07.280 doing to these people.

00:29:08.660 Crazy what they

00:29:09.420 were doing to them

00:29:10.100 and there was

00:29:11.100 no tears for them

00:29:11.940 whatsoever

00:29:12.380 from all these people.

00:29:13.260 People walked

00:29:13.540 inside of ropes

00:29:14.880 inside of the Capitol,

00:29:16.900 many of them did,

00:29:18.020 and were prosecuted

00:29:19.040 to the full extent

00:29:19.880 of the law.

00:29:20.580 Guy kicks out

00:29:21.240 a taillight

00:29:21.920 and spits

00:29:22.660 on ICE agents

00:29:23.540 and nothing happens

00:29:24.860 to him.

00:29:25.240 I'm laughing too,

00:29:26.100 by the way,

00:29:26.520 Buck,

00:29:26.720 because I just

00:29:27.140 checked my email

00:29:27.760 to get ready

00:29:28.280 to do this read

00:29:29.140 and I have

00:29:30.800 equal parts

00:29:31.640 reactions to

00:29:32.820 us talking about

00:29:34.040 this Alex Preddy

00:29:35.280 character and also

00:29:36.780 people fired up

00:29:38.040 about your

00:29:38.660 Natalie Portman

00:29:39.420 take.

00:29:39.900 So you want to

00:29:40.800 talk about range

00:29:41.700 in the first

00:29:42.200 45 minutes.

00:29:43.320 I have side-by-side

00:29:44.800 emails from

00:29:45.860 Alex Preddy

00:29:47.000 take and I'm

00:29:48.040 going to read

00:29:48.400 this email

00:29:49.440 from a guy

00:29:50.000 who was fired

00:29:50.660 up.

00:29:51.160 Big Natalie

00:29:51.720 Portman fan base

00:29:52.800 evidently out there

00:29:53.800 that is furious

00:29:55.100 at Buck.

00:29:55.580 I think Buck's

00:29:56.060 wrong.

00:29:56.340 They probably

00:29:57.100 like sinners too.

00:29:58.020 Buck's wrong.

00:29:59.440 I don't know

00:29:59.680 about sinners.

00:30:00.180 I haven't watched

00:30:00.640 it, but I

00:30:01.020 think I

00:30:01.600 appreciate Natalie

00:30:02.340 Portman's work

00:30:03.140 storms like one

00:30:04.600 this past week

00:30:05.400 that we are

00:30:06.160 still dealing

00:30:06.660 with in Nashville

00:30:07.280 and by the way,

00:30:07.760 I may need to

00:30:08.260 tee off in this

00:30:08.880 program over

00:30:09.820 this.

00:30:10.640 There's still

00:30:11.060 a hundred

00:30:11.400 thousand people

00:30:12.160 without power

00:30:12.900 households in

00:30:14.060 Nashville.

00:30:14.640 I've got tons

00:30:15.660 of friends and

00:30:16.500 family who don't

00:30:17.260 have power.

00:30:18.040 The Nashville

00:30:18.860 electric service

00:30:19.920 and the mayor

00:30:20.680 of Nashville

00:30:21.300 has dropped

00:30:22.440 the ball on a

00:30:23.360 level that I

00:30:24.060 haven't seen

00:30:24.760 in a very,

00:30:25.620 very long time

00:30:26.360 and I am super

00:30:27.500 frustrated for so

00:30:28.500 many different

00:30:28.920 people.

00:30:29.380 We've been very

00:30:29.860 fortunate.

00:30:30.400 We kept our

00:30:30.840 power the entire

00:30:31.640 time, but about

00:30:33.400 half the city of

00:30:34.180 Nashville lost

00:30:34.920 their power.

00:30:35.540 If you're trying

00:30:36.560 to rely on

00:30:37.320 government,

00:30:38.420 unfortunately,

00:30:39.720 especially left

00:30:40.780 wing government,

00:30:41.480 they just fail

00:30:42.860 over and over

00:30:44.460 and over again.

00:30:46.340 And that's one

00:30:46.960 reason you might

00:30:47.900 want to have

00:30:48.660 rapid radios.

00:30:50.160 Power is still

00:30:51.500 out for a

00:30:52.260 hundred thousand

00:30:53.280 households in

00:30:54.260 Nashville alone.

00:30:55.180 A lot of you

00:30:56.120 down in

00:30:56.440 Mississippi,

00:30:56.820 again, I got

00:30:57.560 a message from

00:30:59.300 one of our

00:31:00.260 listeners who

00:31:00.820 said the only

00:31:01.380 way he was able

00:31:02.080 to get in touch

00:31:02.700 with his daughter

00:31:03.360 who goes to

00:31:03.900 school at Ole

00:31:04.420 Miss was

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00:31:07.660 Snowstorms,

00:31:08.120 we've got another

00:31:08.520 bomb cyclone

00:31:10.220 snowstorm.

00:31:10.880 That doesn't

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00:31:14.400 Rapid radios,

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00:31:21.580 Ask our producer,

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00:32:23.460 Welcome everybody

00:32:24.280 to the Thursday

00:32:26.220 edition second

00:32:27.200 hour of the

00:32:28.460 Clay Travis and

00:32:29.100 Buck Sexton

00:32:29.600 show.

00:32:30.660 And we have a

00:32:32.560 government shutdown

00:32:33.240 on the horizon,

00:32:34.460 everybody.

00:32:35.840 Government shutdown

00:32:36.680 could happen.

00:32:38.240 Oh boy, another

00:32:38.720 shutdown.

00:32:39.680 Oh no, oh my gosh,

00:32:41.380 what are we going to

00:32:41.780 do?

00:32:42.260 It could happen this

00:32:43.200 Friday, I think, is

00:32:44.600 when we're talking

00:32:45.200 about this, right?

00:32:45.880 Isn't that the

00:32:46.340 latest?

00:32:47.400 Yeah, we're just

00:32:47.960 letting you know.

00:32:48.560 We're watching it.

00:32:49.240 We'll see.

00:32:50.000 There'll be a bunch

00:32:50.540 of stuff going on

00:32:51.200 on Capitol Hill.

00:32:52.100 Also, today, Tom

00:32:54.380 Homan having a

00:32:56.020 really strong

00:32:57.120 showing at this

00:32:57.720 press conference.

00:32:58.320 We want to get to

00:32:58.780 that with you in a

00:33:00.160 little bit.

00:33:00.600 But we have a

00:33:01.200 really interesting

00:33:01.620 call if he's still

00:33:02.500 with us.

00:33:03.760 Because I got to

00:33:04.580 say, to me, this is

00:33:06.020 one of those moments.

00:33:06.960 The Duke lacrosse

00:33:07.720 case, I understand

00:33:08.480 it was a long time

00:33:09.080 ago.

00:33:09.840 And like I said,

00:33:10.440 Stephen Miller was

00:33:11.140 on cable news as a

00:33:13.080 college student

00:33:13.900 standing up for

00:33:14.720 these kids.

00:33:15.180 And so it's

00:33:16.420 amazing how the

00:33:17.100 world turns and

00:33:19.240 life comes full

00:33:19.840 circle.

00:33:20.360 But we have a guy

00:33:21.360 who says he is

00:33:22.640 from Durham,

00:33:23.260 North Carolina,

00:33:24.240 and was a

00:33:24.680 detective.

00:33:25.880 Well, I'll let him

00:33:26.460 tell us.

00:33:26.940 John, you're calling

00:33:27.820 in from Durham,

00:33:29.120 North Carolina.

00:33:29.820 What's going on?

00:33:32.000 Yes, sir.

00:33:32.720 I just want to say

00:33:34.180 I was not involved

00:33:35.560 in the case.

00:33:36.280 I was assigned to

00:33:37.440 the security detail

00:33:38.740 on the day when

00:33:40.560 Miss Mangum

00:33:41.380 actually admitted

00:33:42.600 that she had

00:33:43.180 made it all up.

00:33:44.920 And that day

00:33:45.860 there were

00:33:46.720 members, I don't

00:33:47.900 know if I can say

00:33:48.380 the name or not,

00:33:49.220 but of the new

00:33:49.920 Black Panther Party

00:33:50.840 that was there

00:33:51.520 marching and

00:33:52.500 complaining.

00:33:54.320 And then once

00:33:55.240 she said that

00:33:56.180 and people in the

00:33:56.800 courtroom, they

00:33:58.520 didn't apologize

00:33:59.160 to Duke students

00:34:00.100 that were accused.

00:34:01.340 They just got up

00:34:02.100 and left.

00:34:02.940 What was the

00:34:04.040 that story in

00:34:06.480 2006, I think,

00:34:07.940 is maybe the

00:34:08.560 beginning of

00:34:09.280 identity politics.

00:34:10.240 It was a pre

00:34:11.040 social media era.

00:34:12.240 I can't even

00:34:12.900 imagine what

00:34:13.740 that case would

00:34:14.440 have been like

00:34:15.060 in a social

00:34:16.020 media era.

00:34:17.480 But how long

00:34:19.000 did that stretch

00:34:19.760 on?

00:34:20.140 What was that

00:34:20.620 like being a

00:34:21.460 detective involved

00:34:22.700 in any way in

00:34:23.580 that area during

00:34:24.740 that entire

00:34:25.480 process?

00:34:27.580 I will tell you

00:34:28.800 that some of

00:34:29.520 my fellow

00:34:31.980 detectives and

00:34:33.820 especially the

00:34:34.540 lead detectives

00:34:35.300 in that as well

00:34:36.100 as some of the

00:34:36.720 assistant district

00:34:37.540 attorneys handling

00:34:38.360 that, they had

00:34:40.940 a lot of, for

00:34:43.640 lack of better

00:34:44.140 words, PTSD

00:34:45.040 because of

00:34:45.800 that, because

00:34:46.700 they had been

00:34:47.220 accused of all

00:34:48.980 these things and

00:34:50.400 being racist and

00:34:51.220 all this, that,

00:34:51.820 and the other.

00:34:52.760 And when the

00:34:53.700 truth came out,

00:34:54.660 it was like, no

00:34:55.560 apologies.

00:34:56.440 It was just like,

00:34:57.220 okay.

00:34:58.580 Were you hearing

00:34:59.740 from your

00:35:01.400 colleagues in

00:35:02.080 Durham law

00:35:02.540 enforcement that

00:35:03.820 before it became,

00:35:05.620 like you said,

00:35:06.260 the woman came

00:35:06.840 out in court and

00:35:07.640 just said she

00:35:08.200 made the whole

00:35:08.720 thing up, but

00:35:10.000 there were, and

00:35:11.340 I remember the

00:35:11.800 prosecutor's name

00:35:12.480 was Mike

00:35:13.240 Knifong.

00:35:15.080 Were the law

00:35:16.900 enforcement officers

00:35:17.700 that were your

00:35:18.320 comrades down in

00:35:20.660 Durham, were

00:35:21.360 they all pretty

00:35:22.460 much aware that

00:35:23.440 this was like a

00:35:24.900 hoax or was

00:35:26.000 there a lot of,

00:35:26.820 well, we got to

00:35:27.240 wait and see, we

00:35:27.780 don't know?

00:35:29.740 It was more

00:35:30.640 wait and see what

00:35:31.440 comes out in court.

00:35:32.380 Yeah, let the

00:35:32.900 evidence speak for

00:35:33.700 itself.

00:35:34.100 Oh, well,

00:35:36.920 John, thank you

00:35:38.320 for calling in.

00:35:38.980 Interesting voice

00:35:41.680 from the past on

00:35:42.600 this one, but

00:35:43.220 Clay, that was

00:35:43.840 also, there are

00:35:44.960 some moments where

00:35:45.680 I remember just

00:35:46.320 being, I think

00:35:47.700 to myself, like

00:35:48.340 I'm conservative

00:35:50.140 or I'm right-wing

00:35:50.940 or whatever, and

00:35:51.920 that was one of

00:35:52.440 them.

00:35:52.600 I remember I

00:35:53.060 was dating a

00:35:55.140 young lady at

00:35:56.120 the time, and

00:35:57.560 she got very

00:35:58.560 angry at me when

00:35:59.500 she found out

00:36:00.160 that I did not

00:36:00.940 believe the

00:36:01.860 accuser at

00:36:03.300 all.

00:36:04.100 So that

00:36:04.840 caused a big

00:36:05.520 fight, and I

00:36:06.080 was like, well,

00:36:06.840 I believe in

00:36:07.960 reality, and all

00:36:09.420 the things that I'm

00:36:09.940 hearing about this

00:36:10.540 do not match up

00:36:11.300 with reality, so

00:36:12.080 there you go.

00:36:12.940 It's one of the

00:36:13.740 biggest failures in

00:36:15.120 the history, I

00:36:16.220 think, of the

00:36:18.160 entire investigative

00:36:19.900 proceedings ever,

00:36:22.120 right?

00:36:22.480 I mean, to have

00:36:23.380 the case go to

00:36:24.540 the point.

00:36:24.860 Remember, they

00:36:25.140 shut down the

00:36:26.020 entire team's

00:36:27.020 season.

00:36:28.360 And again, I

00:36:29.880 feel like a lot

00:36:30.560 of people have

00:36:31.100 forgotten about

00:36:31.880 this story, but

00:36:32.720 to me, it

00:36:33.400 really kind of

00:36:34.120 represented the

00:36:35.000 beginning of

00:36:36.100 identity politics

00:36:37.160 taking over

00:36:37.840 sports, because

00:36:38.860 it was, I

00:36:39.880 think, two

00:36:40.240 black strippers

00:36:41.200 alleged these

00:36:42.700 awful series of

00:36:43.820 crimes by almost

00:36:45.460 all white.

00:36:46.220 They alleged gang

00:36:46.480 rape by a bunch

00:36:47.420 of white Duke

00:36:48.940 lacrosse players, a

00:36:50.020 gang rape.

00:36:50.920 That was what the

00:36:51.840 allegation was.

00:36:52.520 And then they

00:36:53.060 charged all these

00:36:54.060 guys, and many

00:36:55.140 of them weren't

00:36:55.880 even there, right?

00:36:56.900 They had one of

00:36:58.740 them a few miles

00:36:59.520 away at an

00:37:00.360 ATM machine, and

00:37:01.420 they knew it, and

00:37:02.280 they didn't care.

00:37:03.560 And so all of

00:37:04.720 this was based

00:37:06.600 on the fact that

00:37:07.280 they were black

00:37:08.080 women, and these

00:37:09.040 were white men,

00:37:10.320 and this was

00:37:10.960 just, the New

00:37:12.680 York Times leaned

00:37:13.600 in on it.

00:37:15.000 I don't even know

00:37:15.960 what settlement

00:37:16.940 those guys got,

00:37:18.440 but it was one

00:37:19.400 of, I imagine,

00:37:20.440 it had to be

00:37:20.880 tens of millions

00:37:22.000 of dollars that

00:37:22.960 those people who

00:37:24.880 were alleged to

00:37:26.180 have committed

00:37:26.580 the crimes got,

00:37:27.660 and I give

00:37:28.800 credit to them.

00:37:29.460 I think ESPN

00:37:30.040 did a really good

00:37:31.020 documentary on

00:37:32.480 this case.

00:37:33.260 One of the

00:37:34.080 spokespeople for

00:37:35.220 the Duke lacrosse

00:37:36.720 team, one of the

00:37:37.280 players, came out

00:37:38.640 and said, I

00:37:39.260 believe the phrase

00:37:39.960 was, there was a

00:37:40.760 series of fantastic

00:37:42.000 lies when they

00:37:43.240 arraigned them at

00:37:43.860 the courtroom.

00:37:44.640 I mean, they were

00:37:45.020 as outspoken as

00:37:45.840 they could possibly

00:37:46.620 be.

00:37:47.320 It's one of the

00:37:47.740 greatest miscarriages

00:37:48.620 of justice ever,

00:37:49.860 and what I would

00:37:50.380 say in general is,

00:37:51.740 if a story

00:37:52.540 completely fits your

00:37:54.040 narrative worldview,

00:37:55.380 and I would even

00:37:55.880 put it in the

00:37:56.440 context of this

00:37:57.320 ridiculous thing

00:37:58.560 that we saw

00:37:59.240 with Elon Omar

00:38:00.460 the other day,

00:38:01.440 I am very

00:38:02.120 skeptical when

00:38:03.160 the best thing

00:38:03.960 that could happen

00:38:04.720 to someone is

00:38:06.460 a crime, and

00:38:07.440 the crime happens

00:38:08.260 to them.

00:38:08.720 Like, remember

00:38:09.160 Jussie Smollett,

00:38:10.540 being a racial

00:38:11.720 and sex victim

00:38:13.300 in that manner

00:38:14.840 would have been

00:38:15.380 the greatest thing

00:38:16.140 that could have

00:38:16.520 ever happened

00:38:17.000 to his career

00:38:17.780 ever.

00:38:18.440 When the best

00:38:18.940 thing that could

00:38:19.600 ever happen to

00:38:20.280 your career is

00:38:21.060 you're a victim

00:38:21.500 of a crime,

00:38:22.140 and you allege

00:38:22.740 you were a victim

00:38:23.240 of a crime,

00:38:23.840 my alarm

00:38:24.860 belts just

00:38:25.500 go off

00:38:26.120 skeptically.

00:38:27.840 In this case,

00:38:28.660 I mean,

00:38:29.000 from the get-go,

00:38:29.780 it just didn't

00:38:30.400 add up.

00:38:31.620 Also, Duke

00:38:32.380 University turned

00:38:34.320 on the students

00:38:34.940 right away.

00:38:36.120 The student body

00:38:37.060 at Duke turned

00:38:37.720 on the students

00:38:38.160 right away.

00:38:38.620 They fired the

00:38:39.360 coach, I believe,

00:38:40.120 Clay.

00:38:40.680 I mean, think

00:38:41.040 about that.

00:38:41.980 No one thought

00:38:42.420 the coach didn't

00:38:43.560 do anything.

00:38:44.340 The coach wasn't,

00:38:44.860 you know,

00:38:45.080 the coach isn't

00:38:45.720 at the strip

00:38:47.120 caliber team.

00:38:48.380 They shut down

00:38:49.460 the team.

00:38:50.880 This season,

00:38:51.540 they didn't get

00:38:51.960 to play,

00:38:52.840 all based on

00:38:53.740 these stripper

00:38:54.560 lies.

00:38:55.640 I mean,

00:38:56.100 it's crazy.

00:38:57.340 Honestly,

00:38:57.680 it's one of the

00:38:58.100 worst things

00:38:58.980 that any university

00:39:00.140 has done

00:39:02.140 in the 21st century

00:39:04.340 with regard to

00:39:05.040 the identity

00:39:05.460 politics stuff.

00:39:06.500 It was a huge,

00:39:07.420 huge national

00:39:08.380 case.

00:39:08.680 New York Times,

00:39:09.180 if you go back

00:39:09.660 and read the

00:39:10.020 editorials,

00:39:10.560 by the way,

00:39:11.020 I'm sorry,

00:39:11.580 the news coverage,

00:39:12.220 not just the

00:39:12.600 editorials,

00:39:13.080 it's just

00:39:14.100 dripping

00:39:15.120 with the

00:39:16.820 sanctimonious

00:39:18.380 lib,

00:39:18.760 like white

00:39:19.400 privilege

00:39:20.360 and a story

00:39:22.040 of race

00:39:22.580 and class

00:39:23.300 clashing

00:39:24.120 on the Duke

00:39:24.800 University campus

00:39:25.840 and all this

00:39:26.280 sort of stuff.

00:39:27.000 It's like,

00:39:27.960 or you could

00:39:28.960 look at the

00:39:29.300 evidence,

00:39:29.680 which made it

00:39:30.140 very clear

00:39:30.740 that these kids

00:39:31.260 didn't do anything.

00:39:32.420 Or you could do

00:39:33.120 that.

00:39:33.240 Do you think it

00:39:33.260 would have

00:39:33.600 collapsed faster

00:39:34.860 in a social

00:39:35.720 media age

00:39:36.680 with so many

00:39:37.340 people able

00:39:38.140 to dive into

00:39:39.000 the evidence?

00:39:40.060 I'm curious

00:39:40.580 how it would

00:39:41.320 have played out.

00:39:42.220 I think you

00:39:42.780 almost have

00:39:43.220 to break

00:39:44.360 up social

00:39:44.800 media into

00:39:46.000 like BCAD,

00:39:47.760 by the way,

00:39:48.440 it's not BCE

00:39:49.400 and ADE,

00:39:50.360 don't ever

00:39:50.640 fall for it.

00:39:51.100 And that tells

00:39:51.540 you a lot

00:39:51.860 if anyone

00:39:52.140 uses that

00:39:52.640 stuff.

00:39:53.400 Commoner.

00:39:54.900 It's like

00:39:55.620 before X

00:39:56.760 and after X

00:39:58.440 acquisition,

00:39:59.360 right?

00:39:59.800 There's like

00:40:00.300 the pre-Elon

00:40:01.620 social media

00:40:03.340 era was an

00:40:04.660 absolute

00:40:05.340 communist

00:40:07.900 tilted

00:40:08.820 propaganda

00:40:10.680 funhouse,

00:40:11.460 really.

00:40:11.760 We could

00:40:12.580 operate

00:40:12.960 in it

00:40:13.220 at some

00:40:13.460 capacity,

00:40:14.200 but when

00:40:14.500 things got

00:40:14.940 really hot,

00:40:15.580 they would

00:40:15.840 always just

00:40:16.380 make sure

00:40:16.820 that their

00:40:17.180 side was

00:40:17.620 winning.

00:40:18.540 Now,

00:40:18.940 yeah,

00:40:19.260 I think

00:40:19.860 now that

00:40:20.420 you would

00:40:21.520 have a

00:40:21.780 really big

00:40:22.300 problem

00:40:22.700 trying to

00:40:23.300 suppress

00:40:23.640 that.

00:40:24.140 That's why

00:40:24.560 Elon doesn't

00:40:25.700 get enough

00:40:26.260 credit for this.

00:40:26.800 By the way,

00:40:26.960 Elon and

00:40:27.320 Trump are

00:40:27.680 buddies again.

00:40:28.580 I told you

00:40:28.920 that would

00:40:29.140 happen.

00:40:29.880 Remember

00:40:30.080 when they

00:40:30.300 had their

00:40:30.540 little tiff

00:40:31.040 and we

00:40:31.640 came here?

00:40:32.740 I don't

00:40:33.360 think we

00:40:33.600 get enough

00:40:33.900 credit.

00:40:34.280 We tell

00:40:34.560 you things

00:40:35.060 and then

00:40:35.280 they come

00:40:35.540 true like

00:40:35.960 99%

00:40:36.780 of the time.

00:40:41.760 But when

00:40:42.260 you're looking

00:40:42.600 at issues

00:40:43.000 like this

00:40:43.520 that require

00:40:44.060 you to

00:40:44.280 understand

00:40:44.580 the personalities

00:40:45.180 involved,

00:40:45.960 people are

00:40:46.220 like,

00:40:46.380 Elon,

00:40:46.840 it's all

00:40:47.360 destroyed

00:40:47.820 with him

00:40:48.160 and Trump.

00:40:48.660 No,

00:40:48.840 it's not.

00:40:49.240 It's going

00:40:49.440 to be fine.

00:40:50.020 They had

00:40:50.380 a little

00:40:50.580 thing.

00:40:51.340 Elon and

00:40:51.660 Trump,

00:40:52.000 you're talking

00:40:52.260 about two

00:40:52.520 guys whose

00:40:53.040 egos could

00:40:54.140 withstand

00:40:54.640 multiple

00:40:55.240 nuclear

00:40:55.740 strikes and

00:40:56.560 they'd be

00:40:56.840 fine.

00:40:57.280 These guys

00:40:57.920 are going

00:40:58.400 to be just

00:40:58.760 fine.

00:41:00.680 I think

00:41:01.600 that Elon

00:41:02.500 doesn't get

00:41:02.960 enough credit

00:41:03.360 even to this

00:41:03.760 day,

00:41:04.060 Clay,

00:41:04.680 for changing

00:41:05.380 internet culture

00:41:07.420 because there

00:41:08.060 just needed

00:41:08.780 to be one.

00:41:09.960 There needed

00:41:10.400 to be one.

00:41:11.000 The Democrats

00:41:11.520 are still

00:41:11.980 scrambling.

00:41:12.800 We see

00:41:13.200 them scrambling

00:41:13.820 even with

00:41:14.240 the pretty

00:41:14.600 thing.

00:41:15.300 Why do you

00:41:15.620 think they

00:41:15.880 have to run

00:41:16.420 so fast

00:41:17.020 and tell

00:41:17.300 the stories

00:41:17.700 as quickly

00:41:18.040 as they

00:41:18.400 do?

00:41:19.080 Because they

00:41:19.560 know that

00:41:20.480 they've only

00:41:20.940 got a short

00:41:21.480 window before

00:41:22.780 they're getting

00:41:23.740 mocked for

00:41:24.260 lying about

00:41:24.800 stuff.

00:41:25.300 So they

00:41:25.700 have to

00:41:26.040 hammer it

00:41:26.420 so fast

00:41:27.040 right away

00:41:27.580 every time.

00:41:28.880 Yeah,

00:41:29.160 and I

00:41:30.720 think this

00:41:31.500 also kind

00:41:32.820 of ties

00:41:33.220 in with

00:41:34.000 the grok

00:41:35.820 which we

00:41:36.340 have talked

00:41:36.720 about.

00:41:37.700 I really

00:41:38.740 do believe

00:41:39.700 and not

00:41:40.240 a lot of

00:41:40.540 people are

00:41:40.920 talking about

00:41:41.520 this that

00:41:42.740 AI is

00:41:43.860 going to

00:41:44.420 be in

00:41:45.520 terms of

00:41:46.020 just providing

00:41:46.800 information.

00:41:47.860 I think it's

00:41:48.700 going to be

00:41:49.740 so utterly

00:41:51.000 important what

00:41:52.960 the feed is

00:41:54.060 to provide

00:41:54.700 that information

00:41:55.500 and grok

00:41:58.040 has completely

00:41:59.240 changed the

00:41:59.880 game.

00:42:00.260 All we needed

00:42:00.920 was one

00:42:01.500 algorithm that

00:42:02.440 just was down

00:42:03.100 the middle

00:42:03.380 of the road

00:42:03.980 and grok

00:42:05.320 will give

00:42:05.920 you data

00:42:06.620 that frankly

00:42:07.920 chat GPT

00:42:08.940 won't.

00:42:10.260 I asked

00:42:11.040 the question

00:42:11.680 of grok

00:42:13.360 and I

00:42:13.660 would encourage

00:42:14.060 you to go

00:42:14.380 check it

00:42:14.720 out.

00:42:15.920 Just getting

00:42:16.740 basic racial

00:42:17.800 data on

00:42:19.660 crimes.

00:42:20.660 Who is

00:42:21.080 committing

00:42:21.420 murders?

00:42:22.240 Who is

00:42:22.600 dying of

00:42:23.240 murders from

00:42:23.940 a racial

00:42:24.520 perspective if

00:42:25.360 you want to

00:42:25.840 look at it?

00:42:26.860 A lot of

00:42:27.340 chat GPT

00:42:28.020 won't do

00:42:28.600 it because

00:42:29.100 they're afraid

00:42:29.940 of what the

00:42:30.800 data shows.

00:42:32.120 Grok is

00:42:32.620 trying to

00:42:33.100 just give

00:42:33.620 you the

00:42:33.920 truth and

00:42:34.640 let you

00:42:35.040 react to

00:42:35.660 it.

00:42:36.360 I think

00:42:37.280 that is

00:42:38.220 we are

00:42:39.600 going to

00:42:40.040 see in

00:42:40.520 the decades

00:42:41.120 ahead that

00:42:42.440 Elon buying

00:42:43.640 Twitter was

00:42:45.200 a huge win

00:42:46.620 for the

00:42:47.220 marketplace of

00:42:47.960 ideas on a

00:42:48.800 level that I

00:42:49.340 don't think

00:42:49.680 buck people are

00:42:50.420 really even

00:42:51.120 grappling with

00:42:52.040 yet in

00:42:53.440 terms of how

00:42:54.020 much of a

00:42:54.460 difference it

00:42:55.120 has made.

00:42:56.160 By the way,

00:42:56.860 your boy,

00:42:57.360 I was going

00:42:57.740 to play this.

00:42:58.540 We'll get

00:42:58.800 into Tom

00:42:59.280 Homan too.

00:43:00.400 Your boy

00:43:00.820 Scarborough

00:43:01.520 said, we're

00:43:02.660 talking about

00:43:03.140 things that are

00:43:03.680 going to echo

00:43:04.180 for decades.

00:43:05.040 Your boy

00:43:05.880 Scarborough

00:43:06.420 said, I

00:43:07.520 think 20

00:43:08.120 years from

00:43:08.660 now, our

00:43:09.300 kids and

00:43:09.800 grandkids are

00:43:10.800 going to be

00:43:11.100 looking back

00:43:11.880 as a defining

00:43:13.060 moment in the

00:43:13.840 country's history.

00:43:15.260 Alex Preddy

00:43:16.000 being shot.

00:43:16.720 Did you see

00:43:17.060 this?

00:43:17.600 Cut 20.

00:43:18.760 Joe Scarborough,

00:43:19.920 maybe the

00:43:20.380 wrongest man in

00:43:21.220 media.

00:43:21.820 Listen.

00:43:22.540 Friends,

00:43:23.420 probably 90%

00:43:24.400 of them,

00:43:24.920 probably voted

00:43:25.620 for Donald

00:43:26.180 Trump.

00:43:26.700 And something

00:43:27.640 happened this

00:43:28.340 past week where

00:43:29.320 even they would

00:43:30.200 see what the

00:43:30.700 DHS was saying,

00:43:31.660 what Christine

00:43:32.180 was saying about

00:43:33.340 a 37-year-old

00:43:34.480 man who

00:43:34.980 looked like an

00:43:36.060 execution to

00:43:36.780 me, executed in

00:43:37.660 the streets of

00:43:38.180 America a few

00:43:39.040 weeks ago, a

00:43:39.560 37-year-old woman

00:43:40.840 whose final words

00:43:42.060 were, I'm not

00:43:42.840 mad at you, and

00:43:43.740 he shot her at

00:43:44.400 point-blank range

00:43:45.500 through her window

00:43:46.940 twice and killed

00:43:48.780 her.

00:43:49.160 I think 20 years

00:43:50.260 from now, our

00:43:51.200 children and

00:43:51.640 grandchildren are

00:43:52.240 going to be

00:43:52.460 looking back, and

00:43:53.400 this is going to

00:43:54.220 be a defining

00:43:54.820 moment.

00:43:55.320 And I will say,

00:43:56.540 I hope and I

00:43:58.140 pray that the

00:43:59.280 president and the

00:44:00.020 people around him

00:44:00.720 use this moment to

00:44:02.140 understand that

00:44:03.260 things have been

00:44:03.980 pushed too far,

00:44:04.940 they need to

00:44:05.420 start bringing

00:44:05.960 this country

00:44:06.500 together.

00:44:08.220 Nope.

00:44:09.560 Incorrect.

00:44:10.440 I think in a

00:44:11.400 week nobody's

00:44:12.080 going to be

00:44:12.300 talking about

00:44:12.800 Alex Peretti.

00:44:13.540 I tell you right

00:44:14.420 now, as soon as

00:44:15.780 that video came

00:44:16.580 out of Alex

00:44:17.840 Peretti yelling

00:44:18.960 at, kicking the

00:44:20.660 taillights out,

00:44:21.660 screaming curse

00:44:23.840 words at the ICE

00:44:24.960 agents and spitting

00:44:25.900 on them, it

00:44:27.380 vanished.

00:44:28.500 I'm telling you

00:44:29.160 right now, they're

00:44:29.580 not talking about

00:44:30.260 him on MSNBC,

00:44:31.740 they're not talking

00:44:32.400 about him on CNN,

00:44:33.600 it just is like that

00:44:34.500 story never happened.

00:44:36.260 Clay, it vanished

00:44:37.060 like on MSNBC when

00:44:39.360 there's a mass

00:44:39.920 shooting and they

00:44:40.540 find out the guy

00:44:41.220 was yelling

00:44:41.620 Allahu Akbar, all

00:44:42.780 of a sudden, got

00:44:44.080 to talk about sports

00:44:45.220 or something else,

00:44:45.920 like they got to

00:44:46.500 move on to

00:44:47.040 something else, not

00:44:47.880 something they want

00:44:48.440 to get into.

00:44:49.360 So there you go.

00:44:50.100 So it is true, my

00:44:50.920 mother-in-law pointing

00:44:51.740 out, they're not

00:44:52.220 playing the video.

00:44:53.640 You know the story is

00:44:54.960 bad for Democrats when

00:44:56.680 suddenly CNN and

00:44:57.780 MSNBC, they move

00:44:58.920 on to a new story

00:44:59.980 and just pretend

00:45:00.620 that Alex Preddy

00:45:01.360 didn't exist.

00:45:02.440 We got to play it.

00:45:03.320 The thing is, you

00:45:04.060 need the visual too,

00:45:05.180 so maybe it won't

00:45:05.820 work as well on

00:45:06.520 radio.

00:45:06.880 That's one of the

00:45:07.320 frustrations that we

00:45:08.080 can have of it,

00:45:08.540 which is also why

00:45:09.100 you should subscribe

00:45:09.620 on our YouTube

00:45:10.060 channels.

00:45:10.460 You can watch

00:45:10.860 these things

00:45:11.220 afterwards or you

00:45:11.880 can watch the

00:45:12.360 video of it, but

00:45:13.420 have you seen

00:45:13.960 the side-by-side

00:45:15.100 kind of inter-

00:45:16.400 Elizabeth Warren

00:45:18.560 being like,

00:45:20.820 Preddy was the

00:45:22.260 absolute, the

00:45:23.220 greatest human

00:45:23.980 being, the most

00:45:25.120 kind, loving,

00:45:26.680 warm, and you

00:45:27.400 can see him

00:45:27.900 kicking the car,

00:45:29.460 spittle coming out

00:45:30.520 of his mouth,

00:45:31.220 F-bombs dropping,

00:45:32.660 punching at the

00:45:33.500 cops.

00:45:34.180 She's like,

00:45:35.020 never would have

00:45:35.760 heard a fly,

00:45:37.080 just believed in

00:45:38.300 putting milk in

00:45:39.840 little saucers for

00:45:40.960 kitty cats in the

00:45:41.960 neighborhood.

00:45:43.180 It's incredible if

00:45:44.220 you haven't seen it.

00:45:44.940 It really is good.

00:45:45.760 I'm just telling you.

00:45:46.520 Maybe we could

00:45:47.280 at least pull that

00:45:48.520 audio for you so you

00:45:49.320 could hear it and

00:45:50.200 just think about the

00:45:50.960 video.

00:45:51.760 By the way, do we

00:45:52.400 have the video up at

00:45:52.980 Clay and Buck?

00:45:53.420 Just to make it easy

00:45:53.940 for people to find,

00:45:54.460 we should probably put

00:45:55.040 the Preddy video up

00:45:56.000 at ClayandBuck.com

00:45:57.700 so people can see

00:45:58.260 it because once you

00:45:59.820 see it, you'll just

00:46:00.420 go, okay, yeah,

00:46:01.780 there still needs to

00:46:02.320 be an investigation

00:46:02.820 of the shooting.

00:46:03.620 I'm not even saying

00:46:04.180 it justifies the

00:46:04.820 shooting.

00:46:05.200 I'm just saying the

00:46:05.700 guy's a maniac and

00:46:06.480 he brought this on

00:46:07.000 himself.

00:46:07.740 That's what happened.

00:46:09.060 It's 100% true.

00:46:10.260 He wanted a

00:46:11.020 confrontation.

00:46:11.940 He was seeking it

00:46:12.680 for weeks and he's

00:46:13.740 mentally unstable.

00:46:15.720 And, I mean, how

00:46:16.840 many times have you

00:46:17.220 ever seen somebody

00:46:17.820 spit on somebody else

00:46:19.180 and thought, you

00:46:19.740 know what, this is a

00:46:20.500 good human.

00:46:21.260 Like, spitting is

00:46:21.860 just such a nasty

00:46:22.860 thing to do, to

00:46:23.780 even think to do, to

00:46:24.780 spit on someone?

00:46:26.740 You have a mind

00:46:27.760 meld within here.

00:46:28.380 I had the exact

00:46:29.480 same, your first

00:46:31.600 thing is to spit

00:46:33.180 at somebody?

00:46:34.380 If you spit at

00:46:35.500 somebody like that,

00:46:37.320 you're trash.

00:46:38.760 It's a trash move.

00:46:41.720 It really is.

00:46:42.980 I just, I can't

00:46:43.740 ever remember seeing

00:46:44.460 anybody spit and

00:46:45.260 thought, hey, you

00:46:45.840 know, that's the

00:46:46.280 good guy.

00:46:47.080 The spitter is, I

00:46:49.240 mean, it's just such

00:46:49.760 a nasty, vile thing

00:46:51.360 to even think to do.

00:46:51.780 It's like being a guy

00:46:52.480 who tries to scratch

00:46:53.360 another guy's eyes,

00:46:54.480 you know, like,

00:46:54.980 like, what are you

00:46:56.020 doing?

00:46:56.220 I would rather be

00:46:56.940 punched, I think,

00:46:58.220 than spit on.

00:46:59.480 Like, it's just,

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00:49:04.820 Welcome back in Clay

00:49:08.240 Travis Buck Sexton show.

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00:49:38.460 So much.

00:49:39.780 So much going on

00:49:41.100 out there.

00:49:42.080 We got some good news

00:49:43.280 for you

00:49:43.720 before we dive

00:49:44.520 into Tom Holman's.

00:49:45.620 I can't ever keep a secret.

00:49:47.000 I'm not even sure

00:49:47.620 we're supposed to say this yet.

00:49:48.960 So this is on me

00:49:49.940 if we're not supposed

00:49:50.560 to say it.

00:49:51.160 But it is very cool.

00:49:53.180 The show

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00:51:31.700 That is starting

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00:51:35.860 So we want to be

00:51:37.120 everywhere that you guys

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00:51:40.600 Plan is to be able

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00:51:45.880 any way that you would like

00:51:47.660 as well.

00:51:49.540 It will be the five year

00:51:50.760 anniversary of the

00:51:52.200 Clay and Buck show

00:51:53.260 as it exists.

00:51:55.500 Probably a good

00:51:57.000 target date

00:51:57.740 for us to have

00:51:58.460 all three hours

00:51:59.300 of video

00:51:59.780 would be on

00:52:00.500 the five year anniversary

00:52:01.580 so maybe we can

00:52:02.480 make that happen.

00:52:04.440 Are you going to get me

00:52:05.120 like flowers

00:52:05.760 or chocolate

00:52:06.300 or anything Clay?

00:52:07.100 No.

00:52:07.900 I'm bad enough

00:52:08.740 at getting gifts

00:52:09.660 for my wife

00:52:10.480 so you certainly

00:52:11.620 don't get anything.

00:52:13.980 Notice he doesn't

00:52:14.620 even pretend.

00:52:15.500 He doesn't even play a lot.

00:52:16.600 He's like oh yes Buck

00:52:17.460 I'll get you something nice.

00:52:18.780 It's very sad.

00:52:19.440 No I'm not a gift guy

00:52:21.040 like my presence

00:52:22.540 is quite the gift

00:52:23.500 only for my only

00:52:24.980 for my wife

00:52:25.720 I'll be honest with you

00:52:26.580 I'm also a

00:52:27.660 like I said

00:52:28.500 I'm a you know

00:52:29.960 give me give me

00:52:30.860 my nephew's

00:52:31.820 five to nine account

00:52:33.180 so I can put money

00:52:33.920 into it.

00:52:34.380 That's my version of

00:52:35.140 I don't do the other

00:52:35.940 stuff.

00:52:36.460 Did you actually

00:52:37.180 this is funny

00:52:37.780 before we get to Tom

00:52:38.680 Homan our friend

00:52:40.040 Jesse Waters

00:52:40.800 had a segment

00:52:41.560 where we were

00:52:43.220 talking about

00:52:43.660 Sidney Sweeney's

00:52:44.360 new lingerie company

00:52:45.460 in advance of

00:52:46.360 Valentine's Day

00:52:47.260 and he had

00:52:48.060 I think it was

00:52:48.800 Lydia Moynihan on

00:52:49.800 from the New York Post

00:52:50.600 who does good work

00:52:51.340 and he asked her

00:52:52.700 good move

00:52:53.580 bad move

00:52:54.320 for a husband

00:52:55.800 to buy

00:52:56.480 Sidney Sweeney

00:52:57.480 lingerie

00:52:58.160 for his wife

00:52:59.160 because on the one

00:53:00.160 hand it's nice

00:53:00.860 it's Valentine's Day

00:53:01.840 here's lingerie

00:53:02.860 downside

00:53:03.920 it means that

00:53:05.160 the husband

00:53:05.580 has definitely

00:53:06.240 been checking out

00:53:07.100 Sidney Sweeney

00:53:07.840 in her new lingerie

00:53:09.280 in advance of

00:53:10.660 giving

00:53:11.060 the wife

00:53:12.240 or girlfriend

00:53:12.780 lingerie

00:53:13.600 for Valentine's Day

00:53:15.540 I didn't even see

00:53:16.600 Lydia Moynihan's

00:53:18.140 full answer

00:53:18.640 because it was

00:53:19.120 such a funny

00:53:19.660 question

00:53:20.140 that I had to

00:53:22.300 give a hat tip

00:53:23.420 to the Waters

00:53:24.020 crew

00:53:24.340 so that is

00:53:25.100 actually a really

00:53:25.960 really good

00:53:26.440 question

00:53:26.900 so that is

00:53:29.780 floating around

00:53:30.400 out there

00:53:30.700 but in all

00:53:31.140 seriousness

00:53:31.580 the reason

00:53:32.080 why the show

00:53:32.600 is expanding

00:53:33.440 is because

00:53:34.460 you guys

00:53:34.800 have been

00:53:35.100 so fantastic

00:53:36.080 in being

00:53:37.440 fans of the

00:53:38.620 program

00:53:39.000 and chasing

00:53:39.420 us down

00:53:39.860 wherever we go

00:53:40.760 and so we're

00:53:41.660 excited to be

00:53:42.620 on 123

00:53:43.660 on satellite

00:53:44.840 radio

00:53:45.260 something Buck

00:53:45.880 and I have

00:53:46.260 wanted to do

00:53:46.980 for some time

00:53:48.440 because we just

00:53:48.960 want to make

00:53:49.440 this show

00:53:50.200 as easy

00:53:51.240 for you guys

00:53:52.320 to access

00:53:53.340 no matter

00:53:54.940 where you are

00:53:55.600 across the country

00:53:56.200 and again we know

00:53:56.740 a ton of you

00:53:57.280 are truckers

00:53:57.900 and probably

00:53:58.640 the amount

00:53:59.460 of time

00:53:59.780 that you spend

00:54:00.480 sometimes trying

00:54:01.180 to track down

00:54:01.760 the show

00:54:02.160 from one city

00:54:02.920 one state

00:54:03.460 to another

00:54:03.960 is substantial

00:54:05.060 so that will

00:54:06.140 be an easy

00:54:06.980 way to be

00:54:08.100 able to follow

00:54:09.020 the show

00:54:09.540 and we hope

00:54:10.060 that you guys

00:54:10.640 will be able

00:54:11.000 to take advantage

00:54:11.700 of that

00:54:12.440 now

00:54:12.820 let's play a

00:54:13.940 couple of these

00:54:14.280 cuts Buck

00:54:14.740 because both

00:54:15.320 you and I

00:54:15.820 thought

00:54:16.220 Tom Holman

00:54:17.780 was masterful

00:54:18.700 in the way

00:54:19.620 that he

00:54:20.340 has addressed

00:54:21.780 everything

00:54:22.620 surrounding the

00:54:23.340 attacks that

00:54:23.920 have been

00:54:24.120 taking place

00:54:24.680 in Minneapolis

00:54:25.240 and he said

00:54:26.180 a lot of

00:54:26.580 different things

00:54:27.300 this would be

00:54:28.300 substantial

00:54:28.800 in a positive

00:54:29.740 direction

00:54:30.300 this is cut

00:54:31.600 six

00:54:32.080 Holman says

00:54:33.440 Attorney General

00:54:34.300 Ellison

00:54:34.860 says that they

00:54:36.220 will start to

00:54:37.100 turn over

00:54:37.600 violent criminals

00:54:38.620 now

00:54:39.040 because I think

00:54:40.060 if this

00:54:40.460 follows through

00:54:41.660 this is actually

00:54:42.820 a hugely

00:54:43.520 important win

00:54:44.520 for everybody

00:54:45.220 in Minneapolis

00:54:45.920 cut six

00:54:47.100 I'm also pleased

00:54:48.180 to announce

00:54:48.680 I had a very

00:54:50.320 good meeting

00:54:51.080 with Attorney

00:54:52.140 General

00:54:52.580 Ellison

00:54:53.620 and he has

00:54:54.920 clarified for me

00:54:55.860 that county

00:54:57.080 jails

00:54:57.600 may notify

00:54:58.900 ICE

00:54:59.400 of the release

00:55:00.780 dates of criminal

00:55:01.820 public safety

00:55:02.660 risks

00:55:03.060 so ICE

00:55:04.060 can take custody

00:55:04.740 of them

00:55:05.120 upon the release

00:55:06.580 from the jail

00:55:07.300 look

00:55:08.120 I've said this

00:55:08.640 many times

00:55:09.180 before

00:55:09.540 I've said it

00:55:10.000 for the last

00:55:10.360 several years

00:55:11.020 give us

00:55:12.440 access

00:55:13.560 to the illegal

00:55:14.700 alien public

00:55:15.320 safety threat

00:55:15.980 and the safety

00:55:16.720 and security

00:55:17.400 of a jail

00:55:18.020 it's common

00:55:19.080 sense

00:55:19.480 it's safer

00:55:20.320 for the community

00:55:21.120 it's safer

00:55:22.400 for the agent

00:55:23.100 and it's safer

00:55:24.520 for the alien

00:55:25.180 he says

00:55:27.420 cut ten here

00:55:28.360 Buck

00:55:28.720 we're not

00:55:29.320 surrendering

00:55:29.880 our mission

00:55:30.380 at all

00:55:30.960 we're just

00:55:31.680 doing it

00:55:32.340 smarter

00:55:32.820 Tom Holman

00:55:33.440 this morning

00:55:34.220 I've done

00:55:35.900 many

00:55:36.540 many of them

00:55:37.100 it just

00:55:37.520 makes it

00:55:37.860 safe

00:55:38.100 for everybody

00:55:38.640 when we know

00:55:39.200 exactly

00:55:39.640 what we're

00:55:39.980 looking for

00:55:40.480 what is

00:55:40.860 this criminal

00:55:41.320 history

00:55:41.700 what is

00:55:42.060 this immigration

00:55:43.320 history

00:55:44.000 where does

00:55:44.460 you live

00:55:44.920 is an apartment

00:55:45.680 complex

00:55:46.260 versus a house

00:55:47.360 it just makes

00:55:48.700 this operation

00:55:49.820 cleaner

00:55:50.300 more efficient

00:55:51.080 and it's proven

00:55:52.160 less violence

00:55:53.120 when we know

00:55:53.920 exactly what

00:55:54.500 we're getting into

00:55:55.120 and we can take

00:55:56.020 the necessary

00:55:56.500 precautions

00:55:57.060 to keep

00:55:57.500 everybody safe

00:55:58.200 some of the

00:55:58.920 operations

00:55:59.460 I've been involved

00:56:00.360 in

00:56:00.500 we know

00:56:00.940 there's children

00:56:01.440 in the house

00:56:02.080 based on

00:56:02.580 surveillance

00:56:03.040 so we know

00:56:03.620 you've got to be

00:56:04.020 a little bit

00:56:04.320 different

00:56:04.740 when you go

00:56:05.300 in that house

00:56:05.700 because there's

00:56:05.920 going to be

00:56:06.140 children present

00:56:06.720 so target

00:56:07.420 enforcement operations

00:56:08.400 the way we've

00:56:08.960 always done it

00:56:09.580 I think we've got

00:56:10.460 to wait for a little bit

00:56:11.120 and we'll make sure

00:56:12.720 we do target

00:56:13.200 enforcement officers

00:56:14.000 and look

00:56:14.440 I'll say it again

00:56:15.280 we are not

00:56:16.120 surrendering our

00:56:16.740 mission at all

00:56:17.560 we're just

00:56:17.980 doing smarter

00:56:18.580 one more cut

00:56:21.040 cut 8

00:56:21.720 criminals are a

00:56:22.600 priority

00:56:23.060 but if you

00:56:24.160 enter the

00:56:24.460 country illegally

00:56:25.160 you're not

00:56:26.080 safe from

00:56:26.880 being targeted

00:56:27.800 and or being

00:56:29.040 deported

00:56:29.840 cut 8

00:56:30.440 if you're in the

00:56:31.140 country illegally

00:56:31.660 you're never

00:56:32.280 off the table

00:56:32.900 you know

00:56:33.680 but

00:56:33.940 privatization

00:56:35.220 doesn't mean

00:56:35.580 forget about

00:56:35.880 let me say

00:56:38.160 this

00:56:38.560 if the message

00:56:39.520 we send

00:56:40.300 is you enter

00:56:41.000 this country

00:56:41.480 illegally

00:56:41.840 it's a crime

00:56:42.560 don't worry

00:56:43.120 about it

00:56:43.500 you can have

00:56:44.080 you due

00:56:44.360 process

00:56:44.760 show up in

00:56:45.340 court

00:56:45.560 not show up

00:56:46.140 in court

00:56:46.440 get ordered

00:56:46.820 removed

00:56:47.220 don't worry

00:56:47.900 about it

00:56:48.340 unless you

00:56:48.780 commit a

00:56:49.280 serious crime

00:56:50.100 you're good

00:56:50.800 to go

00:56:51.120 if that's

00:56:51.860 the message

00:56:52.240 we send

00:56:52.680 to the world

00:56:53.080 you're never

00:56:53.560 going to fix

00:56:53.960 this problem

00:56:54.440 okay

00:56:55.580 I thought it

00:56:56.240 was a

00:56:56.480 masterful

00:56:57.000 performance

00:56:57.680 Buck

00:56:58.080 I loved

00:56:58.620 him setting

00:56:59.140 the agenda

00:56:59.780 Tom Homan

00:57:00.440 to me

00:57:00.960 and I think

00:57:01.500 you're

00:57:01.800 in agreement

00:57:02.280 on this

00:57:02.740 should be

00:57:03.680 the front

00:57:04.160 facing

00:57:04.760 spokesperson

00:57:06.460 for all

00:57:07.620 issues

00:57:08.120 relating to

00:57:08.780 the border

00:57:09.260 and enforcement

00:57:10.380 of our laws

00:57:11.040 here

00:57:11.260 he should

00:57:12.720 be the guy

00:57:13.300 who is

00:57:14.320 making the

00:57:15.300 most important

00:57:16.400 strategic

00:57:16.800 level

00:57:17.460 decisions

00:57:18.100 about

00:57:18.660 all things

00:57:19.560 going on

00:57:19.980 with this

00:57:20.280 obviously

00:57:20.640 in the name

00:57:21.240 of and with

00:57:21.780 the stamp

00:57:22.180 of approval

00:57:22.700 of the

00:57:23.240 president

00:57:23.560 but he

00:57:24.460 should be

00:57:24.680 the point

00:57:25.000 guy on

00:57:25.420 this

00:57:25.680 he should

00:57:26.760 be the

00:57:27.140 equivalent

00:57:27.500 of the

00:57:27.880 secretary

00:57:28.320 of war

00:57:28.860 except

00:57:29.320 he's the

00:57:29.960 secretary

00:57:30.440 of deportation

00:57:31.720 this should

00:57:32.300 be the

00:57:32.780 guy

00:57:33.300 who

00:57:34.180 and I

00:57:34.500 know

00:57:34.620 people

00:57:34.840 have said

00:57:35.060 he's

00:57:35.300 a czar

00:57:37.160 and he's

00:57:37.440 kind of

00:57:37.660 yeah

00:57:38.160 but there's

00:57:38.940 been a lot

00:57:39.500 of DHS

00:57:40.280 secretary

00:57:40.800 gnome

00:57:41.200 look

00:57:41.420 she's got

00:57:41.980 DHS

00:57:42.980 is such

00:57:43.480 an unwieldy

00:57:44.340 bureaucracy

00:57:44.880 as it

00:57:45.300 is

00:57:45.500 play

00:57:45.900 you've

00:57:46.100 got

00:57:46.280 secret

00:57:46.700 service

00:57:47.180 under

00:57:47.440 DHS

00:57:47.940 I think

00:57:49.020 I think

00:57:49.580 now

00:57:49.900 it's hard

00:57:50.380 to even

00:57:50.620 keep up

00:57:51.080 but it

00:57:51.280 changed

00:57:51.720 all this

00:57:52.160 changed

00:57:52.440 from when

00:57:52.680 I was

00:57:53.000 in the

00:57:53.260 CIA

00:57:53.540 you've

00:57:54.200 got

00:57:54.500 Coast Guard

00:57:55.520 is Coast Guard

00:57:56.040 in DHS

00:57:56.460 now I think

00:57:57.120 it is

00:57:58.120 ICE

00:57:59.040 obviously

00:57:59.460 is

00:57:59.800 Customs

00:58:00.180 and Border

00:58:00.480 Patrol

00:58:00.820 is

00:58:01.500 and there's

00:58:02.260 a TSA

00:58:03.220 I mean

00:58:03.900 there's

00:58:04.100 all these

00:58:04.700 agencies

00:58:05.200 that are

00:58:06.260 all together

00:58:06.980 under this

00:58:07.420 DHS

00:58:07.860 banner

00:58:08.160 I think

00:58:08.960 that

00:58:09.280 Secretary

00:58:10.720 Noem

00:58:11.220 can handle

00:58:11.640 some more

00:58:12.040 of that

00:58:12.380 broad

00:58:12.940 mandate

00:58:13.420 and

00:58:14.000 on this

00:58:14.540 issue

00:58:14.760 of the

00:58:14.960 deportations

00:58:15.640 you want

00:58:15.980 to see

00:58:16.380 Tom

00:58:17.120 Holman

00:58:17.440 this guy

00:58:17.840 has done

00:58:18.100 this for

00:58:18.440 over

00:58:18.620 30

00:58:19.400 something

00:58:19.700 years

00:58:20.160 he knows

00:58:21.340 everything

00:58:21.820 he knows

00:58:22.260 every trick

00:58:22.840 that people

00:58:23.240 try to

00:58:23.640 play

00:58:24.080 in the

00:58:24.740 public

00:58:25.000 arena

00:58:25.340 to lie

00:58:25.800 about

00:58:26.080 this

00:58:26.340 stuff

00:58:26.720 he knows

00:58:27.320 the reality

00:58:27.920 that the

00:58:28.220 Border Patrol

00:58:28.660 agents

00:58:29.020 face

00:58:29.400 and that

00:58:29.680 ICE

00:58:29.960 agents

00:58:30.300 face

00:58:30.680 either

00:58:31.260 with

00:58:31.540 Border

00:58:32.020 or

00:58:32.360 Interior

00:58:32.840 Enforcement

00:58:33.400 it's just

00:58:34.120 the guy

00:58:34.460 you want

00:58:34.820 this is what

00:58:35.860 you want

00:58:36.160 you want

00:58:36.440 somebody

00:58:36.820 who has

00:58:38.100 the knowledge

00:58:38.600 the experience

00:58:39.340 and the

00:58:40.900 leadership

00:58:41.300 capability

00:58:42.040 to get

00:58:43.520 this entity

00:58:44.640 to function

00:58:45.540 for its

00:58:46.620 mission

00:58:46.900 the way

00:58:47.200 that it

00:58:47.480 should

00:58:47.640 so

00:58:47.900 I felt

00:58:49.120 that way

00:58:49.400 about him

00:58:49.680 all along

00:58:50.080 and he

00:58:50.600 did a

00:58:50.860 phenomenal

00:58:51.160 job

00:58:51.520 in the

00:58:51.700 press

00:58:51.880 conference

00:58:52.240 and I

00:58:53.360 think

00:58:53.520 the more

00:58:53.860 that

00:58:54.040 Trump

00:58:54.300 entrusts

00:58:54.800 this

00:58:54.980 mission

00:58:55.260 to Tom

00:58:55.660 Holman

00:58:56.020 the better

00:58:57.000 because he

00:58:57.540 knows

00:58:57.820 he knows

00:58:58.680 how to

00:58:59.100 make the

00:58:59.780 case

00:59:00.680 how to

00:59:00.960 also expose

00:59:02.220 if some

00:59:02.860 mayor or

00:59:03.980 police commissioner

00:59:04.780 wants to play

00:59:05.960 games

00:59:06.540 he'll establish

00:59:07.840 what the

00:59:08.360 statutory

00:59:08.760 problem with

00:59:09.800 that is

00:59:10.300 and he'll

00:59:10.860 take it to

00:59:11.260 the public

00:59:11.680 clay

00:59:12.000 in a way

00:59:13.140 that everyone

00:59:13.960 can understand

00:59:14.760 and everyone

00:59:15.580 can see

00:59:16.300 there's obstruction

00:59:17.440 going on here

00:59:18.260 and that's I think

00:59:19.100 really critical

00:59:19.760 and all of

00:59:23.220 this is

00:59:24.160 I thought

00:59:25.260 just really

00:59:26.660 well done

00:59:27.440 in terms

00:59:28.060 of setting

00:59:28.840 the agenda

00:59:29.360 I think we

00:59:29.740 have one

00:59:30.060 more cut

00:59:30.600 team was

00:59:31.060 telling me

00:59:31.640 that they

00:59:32.560 think we

00:59:32.860 should play

00:59:33.520 and that

00:59:34.080 was cut

00:59:34.780 five

00:59:35.360 which I

00:59:35.760 don't think

00:59:36.060 we played

00:59:36.520 yet

00:59:36.900 one more

00:59:38.040 there

00:59:38.320 in my

00:59:39.000 meetings

00:59:39.360 with folks

00:59:40.280 so far

00:59:40.860 and most

00:59:42.120 importantly

00:59:42.460 the governor

00:59:42.880 and the

00:59:43.220 AG

00:59:43.500 and the

00:59:43.880 mayor

00:59:44.040 Fry

00:59:44.440 we didn't

00:59:45.940 agree on

00:59:46.300 everything

00:59:46.640 I didn't

00:59:47.760 expect to

00:59:48.140 agree on

00:59:48.400 anything

00:59:48.720 one thing

00:59:49.900 we all

00:59:50.240 agreed on

00:59:50.840 was

00:59:52.220 US

00:59:52.920 immigration

00:59:53.400 customs

00:59:53.800 enforcement

00:59:54.200 is a

00:59:54.480 legitimate

00:59:54.820 law enforcement

00:59:55.480 agency

00:59:56.160 that has

00:59:57.140 a duty

00:59:57.500 to enforce

00:59:58.040 the laws

00:59:58.420 enacted

00:59:58.740 by Congress

00:59:59.320 and keep

00:59:59.740 this community

01:00:00.140 safe

01:00:00.540 like I've

01:00:01.740 said many

01:00:02.160 times

01:00:02.700 for last

01:00:04.100 several years

01:00:04.860 even before

01:00:06.320 this

01:00:06.540 administration

01:00:07.180 jurisdictions

01:00:08.300 that refuse

01:00:09.000 to cooperate

01:00:09.680 with federal

01:00:11.160 immigration

01:00:11.640 authorities

01:00:12.200 are sanctuaries

01:00:13.440 for criminals

01:00:14.100 sanctuary cities

01:00:15.980 are sanctuaries

01:00:16.900 for criminals

01:00:17.760 and endangers

01:00:19.300 the residents

01:00:20.440 of the community

01:00:21.180 the numbers

01:00:23.860 out there

01:00:24.440 Buck

01:00:24.860 ICE

01:00:25.680 arrests

01:00:26.220 in Minnesota

01:00:27.440 11,000

01:00:29.100 which sounds

01:00:30.300 like a

01:00:30.600 pretty

01:00:30.820 substantial

01:00:31.420 number

01:00:31.920 now

01:00:32.200 obviously

01:00:32.640 population

01:00:33.340 factors

01:00:33.880 in here

01:00:34.360 but let

01:00:35.040 me give

01:00:35.260 you a

01:00:35.460 number

01:00:35.740 Texas

01:00:36.560 88,000

01:00:38.220 we haven't

01:00:39.180 seen a

01:00:39.620 single story

01:00:40.560 about resistance

01:00:41.620 to ICE

01:00:42.520 or border

01:00:43.200 patrol

01:00:43.760 in the

01:00:44.520 entire

01:00:44.960 state

01:00:45.500 of Texas

01:00:46.340 88,000

01:00:47.840 arrests

01:00:48.340 in Minnesota

01:00:49.760 we've seen

01:00:50.580 11,000

01:00:51.480 arrests

01:00:51.860 now

01:00:52.180 the population

01:00:54.100 obviously

01:00:54.640 is much

01:00:55.120 higher

01:00:55.560 in Texas

01:00:56.280 but it

01:00:57.180 isn't

01:00:57.400 eight times

01:00:57.920 the population

01:00:58.560 I don't

01:00:59.020 think

01:00:59.320 of

01:00:59.740 Minnesota

01:01:00.200 so

01:01:00.820 on a

01:01:01.800 per capita

01:01:02.380 basis

01:01:02.840 there are

01:01:03.440 lots of

01:01:04.020 states

01:01:04.420 out there

01:01:04.900 that are

01:01:05.300 participating

01:01:05.800 in a

01:01:06.840 functional

01:01:07.400 and effective

01:01:08.220 way

01:01:08.780 and others

01:01:10.240 that are

01:01:10.640 not

01:01:11.040 and I

01:01:12.540 think it's

01:01:12.860 worth

01:01:13.180 paying attention

01:01:13.840 to

01:01:14.160 and recognizing

01:01:15.640 now

01:01:16.200 Fry

01:01:16.800 there does

01:01:18.220 seem to be

01:01:18.740 a difference

01:01:19.520 of what

01:01:20.160 people say

01:01:20.820 publicly

01:01:21.340 and what

01:01:22.060 they are

01:01:22.520 saying

01:01:22.940 privately

01:01:23.620 based on

01:01:24.440 the way

01:01:25.000 that this

01:01:25.380 talk went

01:01:25.940 Mayor

01:01:26.900 Fry

01:01:27.360 just

01:01:27.780 said

01:01:28.180 in

01:01:28.400 address

01:01:29.080 to

01:01:29.480 a

01:01:29.660 bunch

01:01:29.880 of

01:01:30.020 other

01:01:30.280 different

01:01:30.760 mayors

01:01:31.340 that

01:01:32.500 ICE

01:01:32.900 needs

01:01:33.200 to be

01:01:33.560 banished

01:01:34.080 nationwide

01:01:35.040 so again

01:01:36.300 cut

01:01:36.660 36

01:01:37.240 abolish

01:01:38.040 ICE

01:01:38.440 is becoming

01:01:39.060 an actual

01:01:40.260 Democrat

01:01:40.820 argument

01:01:41.280 which I

01:01:41.700 don't think

01:01:42.040 plays well

01:01:42.600 for them

01:01:43.060 cut 36

01:01:43.960 despite what

01:01:44.860 you make

01:01:45.320 here on

01:01:45.980 different

01:01:46.680 media channels

01:01:48.020 crime is

01:01:48.840 down in

01:01:49.240 virtually every

01:01:49.920 category

01:01:50.500 and virtually

01:01:51.140 every neighborhood

01:01:51.920 of Minneapolis

01:01:52.680 Minneapolis is

01:01:53.940 a safe

01:01:54.520 city

01:01:54.860 it is less

01:01:56.160 safe

01:01:56.580 when chaos

01:01:57.740 reigns

01:01:58.160 supreme

01:01:58.560 it is less

01:01:59.580 safe

01:01:59.920 when families

01:02:00.740 do not feel

01:02:01.360 comfortable

01:02:01.900 going to

01:02:02.580 school

01:02:03.040 or buying

01:02:04.000 food at

01:02:04.560 the grocery

01:02:05.080 store

01:02:05.520 because they're

01:02:06.080 worried that

01:02:06.520 their very

01:02:06.980 family might

01:02:07.680 get ripped

01:02:08.080 apart

01:02:08.560 it is less

01:02:09.640 safe

01:02:10.160 when we

01:02:10.800 have

01:02:11.060 roving

01:02:11.880 bands

01:02:12.580 of agents

01:02:13.460 marching

01:02:14.100 down the

01:02:14.740 street

01:02:14.960 just looking

01:02:15.540 for somebody

01:02:16.160 who might

01:02:16.620 be concerned

01:02:17.340 and I gotta

01:02:17.760 tell you

01:02:18.180 everybody

01:02:18.980 is concerned

01:02:20.100 when you

01:02:20.740 have that

01:02:21.400 kind of

01:02:21.900 occupation

01:02:22.420 and so

01:02:23.200 we've been

01:02:23.760 very clear

01:02:24.480 the Operation

01:02:25.900 Metro surge

01:02:26.680 needs to

01:02:27.200 end

01:02:27.580 this kind

01:02:28.580 of conduct

01:02:29.260 and siege

01:02:30.120 needs to

01:02:30.680 stop

01:02:31.220 not just

01:02:31.880 in Minneapolis

01:02:32.700 it needs

01:02:33.760 to stop

01:02:34.220 nationwide

01:02:35.000 what I would

01:02:36.680 love

01:02:37.100 just know

01:02:37.940 I mean

01:02:38.260 he's some

01:02:38.600 mayor

01:02:38.880 he's a

01:02:39.220 moron

01:02:39.620 how about

01:02:40.520 no

01:02:40.800 I would

01:02:42.260 love

01:02:42.640 this is

01:02:43.140 where

01:02:43.380 actual

01:02:44.040 data

01:02:44.640 would be

01:02:45.300 fun

01:02:45.720 what is

01:02:47.440 the number

01:02:47.920 that Jacob

01:02:48.580 Fry thinks

01:02:49.220 is an

01:02:49.520 appropriate

01:02:50.020 and allowable

01:02:51.020 and permissible

01:02:51.860 number of

01:02:52.500 illegal immigrants

01:02:53.340 in the country

01:02:53.920 nobody ever

01:02:54.620 asked this

01:02:55.200 question

01:02:55.600 of the

01:02:56.860 people out

01:02:57.360 there that

01:02:57.860 are dancing

01:02:58.660 around

01:02:59.180 and spending

01:03:00.240 a lot

01:03:01.020 of time

01:03:01.540 arguing

01:03:02.780 that there

01:03:03.240 needs to be

01:03:03.660 no enforcement

01:03:04.320 from ICE

01:03:04.940 okay

01:03:05.240 what's the

01:03:05.740 number

01:03:06.120 that you

01:03:06.660 think

01:03:06.900 would be

01:03:07.200 too many

01:03:07.660 would 50

01:03:08.360 million

01:03:08.700 100

01:03:09.080 million

01:03:09.580 should we

01:03:10.020 just

01:03:10.300 make

01:03:10.740 Latin

01:03:11.120 Americans

01:03:11.640 everyone

01:03:12.340 in all

01:03:12.740 of Latin

01:03:13.040 America

01:03:13.400 able to

01:03:13.940 come here

01:03:14.340 and live

01:03:14.780 where would

01:03:15.860 you draw

01:03:16.300 the line

01:03:16.800 and say

01:03:17.200 you know

01:03:17.440 what

01:03:17.660 this doesn't

01:03:18.380 make sense

01:03:19.100 and there's

01:03:19.660 never really

01:03:20.420 an announcement

01:03:21.160 or comprehension

01:03:22.540 or discussion

01:03:23.400 of that

01:03:23.900 look

01:03:24.800 I'm headed

01:03:25.500 out to

01:03:25.760 California

01:03:26.140 next week

01:03:26.740 Super Bowl

01:03:27.340 is going

01:03:27.720 on

01:03:28.020 I will be

01:03:28.480 in LA

01:03:28.860 at our

01:03:29.180 affiliates

01:03:29.740 then we've

01:03:30.940 got

01:03:31.160 we need

01:03:31.420 to get

01:03:31.600 a good

01:03:31.760 affiliate

01:03:32.040 in San

01:03:32.380 Francisco

01:03:32.700 I don't

01:03:33.020 think we

01:03:33.360 hopefully

01:03:33.920 I'm not

01:03:34.300 wrong

01:03:34.520 on this

01:03:34.720 but I

01:03:34.940 don't

01:03:35.060 think we

01:03:35.300 have a

01:03:35.480 great

01:03:35.640 affiliate

01:03:35.920 in San

01:03:36.300 Francisco

01:03:36.640 it's one

01:03:36.960 of the

01:03:37.140 cities

01:03:37.360 we need

01:03:37.700 to hit

01:03:37.960 you'll be

01:03:38.320 able to

01:03:38.540 listen on

01:03:39.040 satellite radio

01:03:39.800 now though

01:03:40.260 I guess

01:03:40.560 in San

01:03:40.880 Francisco

01:03:41.280 in Dallas

01:03:42.420 and other

01:03:42.840 cities

01:03:43.220 where maybe

01:03:43.800 we can't

01:03:44.420 have a

01:03:45.000 great

01:03:45.400 listening

01:03:46.160 ability

01:03:46.980 Philadelphia

01:03:48.120 where Buck

01:03:49.000 has been

01:03:49.300 insulting

01:03:49.700 everybody

01:03:50.100 about the

01:03:50.560 cheesesteaks

01:03:51.120 you'll be

01:03:52.040 able to

01:03:52.260 listen in

01:03:52.580 all those

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01:03:53.180 and you

01:03:54.160 can play

01:03:54.500 prize

01:03:54.860 picks

01:03:55.080 in all

01:03:55.760 50

01:03:56.220 states

01:03:56.700 including

01:03:57.120 California

01:03:57.800 Texas

01:03:58.320 Florida

01:03:58.840 and Georgia

01:03:59.520 download the

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01:04:01.320 use my

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01:04:01.920 clay

01:04:02.300 as the

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01:04:02.980 and you

01:04:03.180 get 50

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01:04:05.180 let me

01:04:05.460 repeat

01:04:05.680 this

01:04:05.940 just in

01:04:06.760 time for

01:04:07.160 the

01:04:07.300 Super Bowl

01:04:07.740 I'm

01:04:08.000 going to

01:04:08.160 give you

01:04:08.460 a pick

01:04:08.780 next week

01:04:09.380 you go

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01:04:10.400 picks

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01:04:11.260 you put

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01:04:12.160 clay

01:04:12.660 when you

01:04:13.280 play

01:04:13.600 five

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01:04:16.820 you can

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01:04:17.620 little

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01:04:17.900 more

01:04:18.100 fun

01:04:18.460 I

01:04:18.680 know

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01:04:32.540 50 states

01:04:33.180 California

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01:04:35.080 download the

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01:04:42.660 clay

01:04:43.020 on

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01:04:43.780 picks

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - January 29, 2026

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