Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck

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00:00:04.740 Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.

00:00:10.440 We appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

00:00:13.720 555 some odd stations nationwide.

00:00:16.000 All 50 states, even including New Mexico, which I'm told is a state.

00:00:21.100 And we are right now.

00:00:24.700 I just want to point out that New Mexico listeners,

00:00:28.000 your calls have been heard, your emails have been read,

00:00:31.720 we'll get them today.

00:00:33.020 You have risen up for Clay's scalp like Geronimo of old.

00:00:36.980 I want to be clear on this too.

00:00:40.940 I would like to apologize to the people of New Mexico.

00:00:44.000 Instead of giving up New Mexico,

00:00:46.340 increasingly I'm thinking we should give up Minnesota

00:00:48.840 because the state has completely lost its mind.

00:00:52.580 Maybe Canada would do better with everyone in Minnesota.

00:00:56.060 And I'm trying to start with a little bit of frivolity

00:00:59.240 because sadly people on the left in Minneapolis

00:01:04.360 have completely lost their minds.

00:01:07.200 And I know we may talk about this with New York City

00:01:12.100 or we may talk about it with Los Angeles

00:01:14.400 or we may talk about it with Chicago,

00:01:16.360 places that we're not surprised that chaos often descends

00:01:21.060 and poor choices are made.

00:01:23.440 But I do think it's emblematic of the woke mind virus,

00:01:27.980 what has happened in Minneapolis in particular,

00:01:30.820 because many of us, myself included,

00:01:34.540 sort of think of Minneapolis as a relatively reasonable,

00:01:39.340 not particularly crazy place.

00:01:42.180 And yet this is going on right now.

00:01:44.360 In the wake of the shooting,

00:01:46.860 Kristi Noem is right now actually having a press conference

00:01:50.340 to discuss from New York City,

00:01:52.660 just ended the fact that this was a justified shooting.

00:01:56.880 But listen to what it sounds like.

00:01:58.800 These are ICE agents surrounding,

00:02:00.900 getting assaulted this morning in Minneapolis

00:02:03.620 by a bunch of crazy left-wingers.

00:02:06.400 Cut one.

00:02:06.860 We had all sorts of crazy things that were said yesterday

00:02:22.640 by Mayor Jacob Frey of Minneapolis,

00:02:26.640 by the governor of Minnesota, Tim Walls.

00:02:30.960 And Tommy Lahren asked a question.

00:02:33.160 She's at OutKick.

00:02:33.840 She now hosts the Fox Saturday show.

00:02:36.280 And I thought it was a really good one, Buck.

00:02:38.300 And I don't know how much time you spent thinking about it,

00:02:40.300 but I do think it's important and worthy of discussing.

00:02:44.260 How did this woman end up in a position

00:02:47.940 where in her free time,

00:02:50.560 37-year-old white mom from, I believe, Colorado originally,

00:02:55.940 who had moved to Minneapolis at some point in time,

00:02:59.060 decides that it is her duty to be showing up in her car

00:03:02.920 to try to harass people who are doing their job on behalf of ICE

00:03:07.480 such that she ends up losing her life there?

00:03:10.880 I think while it is a specific incident,

00:03:14.680 it is emblematic of what I think is a rotten core

00:03:19.620 that the Democrat Party has created among much of their base.

00:03:24.260 And I don't think it's a coincidence that, to me,

00:03:26.520 the sort of intellectual linchpin, as it were, of the Democrat Party

00:03:30.960 has become these white liberal women.

00:03:35.080 And this woman is just showing up in the middle of a day in a car

00:03:38.860 harassing the ICE agents.

00:03:41.000 And that ultimately led to this shooting.

00:03:44.260 Well, you know, Clay, there's a, some would say,

00:03:47.580 fabulous book coming out next month

00:03:50.460 that addresses this very phenomenon.

00:03:52.820 The book is Manufacturing Delusion,

00:03:55.360 How the Left Uses Brainwashing, Indoctrination,

00:03:57.620 and Propaganda Against You,

00:03:59.040 goes into mass hysteria and authoritarian and totalitarian

00:04:05.580 mind-control tactics that get people to do things

00:04:09.580 from blow themselves up in suicide bombing

00:04:12.840 to lie down in streets to stop climate change

00:04:16.020 to, these are irrational.

00:04:18.740 These are absurd, insane acts.

00:04:21.620 And yet we see it time and time again.

00:04:23.660 For this woman, she's from Colorado, right?

00:04:26.000 To show up, by the way, pre-order is available,

00:04:28.200 Manufacturing Delusion, wherever fine books are sold.

00:04:30.220 Go get them. Go get it hooked up.

00:04:31.780 Oh, you thought you were shameless, Clay.

00:04:33.420 You're on book number five.

00:04:34.720 This is book number one for me, buddy.

00:04:36.560 And this may be one and done.

00:04:38.280 So my shamelessness is going to,

00:04:40.300 you're going to be like,

00:04:41.080 Warbuck, a little too much selling, buddy.

00:04:43.160 A little too much selling.

00:04:44.460 But no, really, please go get the,

00:04:45.940 because I'll do more prints of it.

00:04:47.480 So please go get your pre-orders going now,

00:04:50.300 Manufacturing Delusion.

00:04:51.100 Clayandbuck.com.

00:04:52.260 We've got a link up there, too,

00:04:53.400 if you want to get them nice and easy.

00:04:55.620 But no, the book really does deal with this,

00:04:57.000 because this has been,

00:04:57.860 how do you make people so crazy?

00:04:59.540 I mean, this is my fundamental question

00:05:01.720 about the Democrat Party

00:05:03.080 really became, during COVID, Clay,

00:05:06.540 a near obsession of mine and yours,

00:05:08.860 because you also were like,

00:05:09.760 Hey, Matt, guys, we all know this is stupid, right?

00:05:11.920 And no, actually, they did not.

00:05:13.420 Everyone did not all know that this was stupid,

00:05:15.780 which was a shock to a lot of people.

00:05:17.360 There's something wrong and deranged about the Democrat base,

00:05:22.000 and we see this playing out over and over again,

00:05:24.880 whether it is a celebration of Charlie Kirk's assassination,

00:05:29.420 wrong, deranged, deeply unsettling,

00:05:32.920 or the desire to take your hands

00:05:36.000 and superglue them to priceless works of Renaissance art

00:05:41.340 because of climate change,

00:05:43.180 or in this case, to try to use your car

00:05:46.120 to stop Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officers

00:05:49.720 from enforcing the law.

00:05:52.040 This woman, it's sad, it's sad that she died,

00:05:55.380 and I wish that she was still alive,

00:05:57.940 but this woman seems to think

00:06:00.100 that she gets to nullify federal immigration law,

00:06:03.300 and she doesn't,

00:06:04.620 nor do any of these other protesters and maniacs

00:06:07.200 who run around now

00:06:08.620 and threaten and harass

00:06:10.500 and impede law enforcement efforts.

00:06:12.520 And you'll notice,

00:06:13.620 not a single Democrat, Clay,

00:06:15.660 will speak out in defense of ICE

00:06:17.940 as a general matter.

00:06:19.500 Not a single Democrat will say

00:06:21.160 these are federal law enforcement officers

00:06:23.320 in the conduct of their duties.

00:06:25.900 What does that tell you

00:06:27.080 about whether Democrats really respect the law?

00:06:29.840 No, look, I mean,

00:06:30.660 Democrats respect the law

00:06:32.000 only as it pertains to whatever happened

00:06:34.020 on January 6th,

00:06:35.360 which they obsessively marinate in.

00:06:37.580 Otherwise, they think that police,

00:06:39.400 law enforcement ICE officials

00:06:41.640 are awful human beings

00:06:43.480 who are unworthy of respect.

00:06:45.580 And look,

00:06:46.240 I understand that people have

00:06:48.540 different caliber jobs.

00:06:50.360 There really needs to be an investigation

00:06:52.280 into how in the world

00:06:54.660 can all of these people show up

00:06:57.480 at noon on a random Thursday in January

00:07:02.080 and be harassing all of these ICE agents.

00:07:06.680 I mean, first of all,

00:07:07.980 I thought, maybe I was wrong,

00:07:10.160 I thought, hey,

00:07:11.800 it's so cold in Minneapolis right now,

00:07:14.960 people are not going to be willing

00:07:16.420 to go stand out in the frigid cold

00:07:19.360 and protest.

00:07:20.580 You got this right,

00:07:21.760 and I do think it was,

00:07:22.860 when all the college kids

00:07:24.160 were protesting on campus,

00:07:26.260 we pointed out

00:07:27.140 that it didn't happen

00:07:28.960 in January and February

00:07:30.240 that everybody took over

00:07:31.540 Columbia's campus

00:07:32.600 in New York City.

00:07:33.860 It only got to happen

00:07:35.360 when it was April and May

00:07:36.540 and the weather starts

00:07:37.260 to get pretty good

00:07:38.220 and it's not that bad

00:07:39.180 to be outside.

00:07:40.640 You only want to save

00:07:42.620 democracy on campus

00:07:45.260 when you can play

00:07:46.060 hacky sack barefoot in the quad.

00:07:47.740 That's the rule.

00:07:48.180 Totally.

00:07:48.740 And I'll be honest with you,

00:07:50.080 I remember back in the day

00:07:51.440 when I was in college,

00:07:52.940 when the weather was perfect,

00:07:54.420 it was a lot more fun

00:07:55.380 to go get a beer

00:07:56.140 on the patio, right?

00:07:57.420 Like, you want to be outside,

00:07:59.140 you want to be hanging out.

00:08:01.440 I'm watching right now

00:08:02.820 live on Fox News,

00:08:04.640 there are hundreds

00:08:05.620 if not thousands of people

00:08:07.660 that are showing up

00:08:09.400 and harassing these ICE agents

00:08:11.360 as they are trying

00:08:12.260 to do their job

00:08:13.100 in the middle of the day

00:08:14.320 in Minneapolis.

00:08:15.300 The reason I'm asking this is

00:08:16.900 somebody's paying for this, right?

00:08:19.600 I don't buy that this is

00:08:21.280 a completely organic thing

00:08:23.340 that people are just showing up

00:08:25.300 and they're deciding,

00:08:27.000 hey, I'm going to stand out

00:08:27.980 in the cold in Minneapolis

00:08:29.280 and protest ICE

00:08:30.680 and harass all of these ICE agents,

00:08:33.020 which, by the way,

00:08:33.980 they want to have

00:08:35.140 another incident of violence.

00:08:37.300 This is what they really

00:08:38.320 want to have happen.

00:08:40.000 They're going to claim

00:08:40.860 that they were horrified

00:08:41.860 by what happened

00:08:42.640 to the woman who was shot

00:08:43.960 in Minneapolis,

00:08:46.240 this moronic mom

00:08:47.460 who put herself

00:08:48.200 in this situation

00:08:49.020 that led to her death.

00:08:50.680 But really,

00:08:51.400 they want it to happen.

00:08:52.340 They want her to be shot

00:08:54.400 because it allows them

00:08:55.880 to argue,

00:08:57.200 oh, look at these

00:08:57.980 jackbooted thug ICE agents

00:09:00.420 that are coming into

00:09:01.340 our communities

00:09:02.000 and now killing

00:09:03.460 innocent people.

00:09:04.900 Moms,

00:09:06.040 my question is,

00:09:07.180 and I do think

00:09:07.880 it's a good one,

00:09:08.560 who's paying for this?

00:09:09.820 And second,

00:09:11.100 what in the world

00:09:11.920 is going on

00:09:12.740 that a mom,

00:09:14.080 I think it's

00:09:14.660 a single parent mom,

00:09:15.840 so she's the only parent

00:09:18.340 of her child,

00:09:19.900 is deciding that

00:09:21.000 she should be spending

00:09:22.600 her time

00:09:23.380 driving her vehicle

00:09:24.480 to try to obstruct

00:09:25.940 ICE agents

00:09:26.880 from being able

00:09:27.600 to do their jobs?

00:09:29.100 What have we created

00:09:30.540 when her death

00:09:32.860 is something

00:09:33.520 that in many ways,

00:09:34.520 let's be honest,

00:09:35.160 the left is celebrating,

00:09:36.620 they want it to happen,

00:09:38.520 and where exactly

00:09:40.640 is it all going

00:09:42.460 to go from here?

00:09:43.380 Because unfortunately,

00:09:44.160 they want more violence,

00:09:46.160 that is their goal,

00:09:48.000 and I think that's

00:09:49.160 what they're hoping

00:09:49.800 is going to occur.

00:09:51.660 I think that

00:09:52.760 they're going to

00:09:54.200 rally around this now,

00:09:55.980 it's obviously

00:09:56.420 a midterm election year,

00:09:57.960 and you're going to see

00:09:58.940 a lot more of this,

00:10:00.800 and everything

00:10:02.080 that you had heard

00:10:03.000 last year

00:10:03.660 from Democrats

00:10:04.260 about,

00:10:06.260 oh,

00:10:07.040 Biden made some mistakes

00:10:08.460 on the border,

00:10:09.660 maybe we should have,

00:10:10.580 no, no, no,

00:10:10.960 now it's going to be

00:10:12.320 Trump is racist,

00:10:13.540 xenophobic,

00:10:15.020 the border,

00:10:15.720 ice or jackbooted thugs,

00:10:17.480 you're going to hear

00:10:18.480 all of this craziness

00:10:20.380 in the hopes

00:10:21.360 that the people listening,

00:10:22.860 enough of them,

00:10:23.860 will forget about

00:10:24.820 what was said before,

00:10:26.160 and will not be able

00:10:27.440 to figure out

00:10:28.480 that there is no principle

00:10:29.960 at work here

00:10:30.540 for these Democrats,

00:10:31.980 that they can't even tell us

00:10:33.060 what exactly

00:10:34.220 is the alternative

00:10:35.820 to having

00:10:38.260 ICE agents

00:10:39.440 apprehend

00:10:40.800 and deport people

00:10:41.780 from the American interior.

00:10:43.660 What is the alternative

00:10:44.900 to this?

00:10:45.900 The alternative

00:10:46.560 is millions and millions

00:10:47.860 of people

00:10:48.440 get to stay

00:10:49.320 in the country forever

00:10:50.180 in violation of our laws,

00:10:51.520 and as we see,

00:10:52.260 go on welfare,

00:10:53.800 take money from us,

00:10:55.500 money from the American people,

00:10:57.240 which I might add,

00:10:58.180 if you don't pay,

00:10:59.100 you go to prison,

00:11:00.560 so you are told

00:11:01.940 to pay taxes

00:11:03.100 under threat

00:11:04.160 of your freedom

00:11:04.960 so that foreigners

00:11:06.380 from the third world

00:11:07.540 can come here

00:11:08.240 by the millions,

00:11:09.120 avail themselves

00:11:10.720 to whatever benefits

00:11:11.840 they can legally

00:11:12.880 and illegally,

00:11:13.720 and if you have

00:11:14.940 a problem with that,

00:11:16.060 you're a bad person.

00:11:17.480 This is actually

00:11:18.540 where the Democrat Party is,

00:11:19.980 I might add.

00:11:20.720 There won't be anyone

00:11:22.360 who comes forward

00:11:23.320 to debate this issue

00:11:24.460 from the Democrat side

00:11:25.520 because they are not

00:11:27.280 capable of winning elections

00:11:29.260 if they speak clearly

00:11:31.320 and honestly

00:11:32.140 about how they feel

00:11:33.320 when it comes to

00:11:34.260 immigration enforcement.

00:11:35.580 They don't want

00:11:36.420 immigration to be enforced.

00:11:37.800 All of that is true.

00:11:40.220 Let me also point

00:11:41.040 something else out

00:11:41.880 now that I've got

00:11:42.560 my handy quad box

00:11:44.080 so I can see

00:11:44.900 what everybody

00:11:45.440 is being exposed to

00:11:46.620 on a day-to-day basis

00:11:47.600 on MSNBC,

00:11:49.180 not as a huge fan

00:11:50.800 like Buck Sexton is,

00:11:52.000 but just so that

00:11:52.800 I am here for all of you.

00:11:54.020 Oh, you're sneaking

00:11:54.680 some looks in your quad box

00:11:56.360 at Morning Joe

00:11:57.200 in the morning

00:11:57.860 drinking your Crockett coffee.

00:11:59.520 Come on now.

00:12:00.300 They are not showing

00:12:02.080 the video

00:12:03.260 that clearly illustrates

00:12:05.480 that this guy

00:12:07.600 had contact

00:12:08.620 made with him

00:12:09.660 on the shooting.

00:12:12.620 They're constantly repeating

00:12:14.560 because if you watch

00:12:15.640 one of the videos

00:12:16.500 it's very hard

00:12:17.400 to see who his shooter is

00:12:19.100 and it looks like

00:12:20.340 he comes from the side

00:12:21.800 and shoots

00:12:22.620 because of the way

00:12:23.420 the video is shot.

00:12:24.680 They're not showing

00:12:25.860 the one

00:12:26.660 which I want to make sure

00:12:28.220 that we've reinforced

00:12:29.200 so that you can watch

00:12:30.400 it for yourself

00:12:31.360 where you see

00:12:32.680 that this guy

00:12:33.420 was directly

00:12:34.340 in front of the car

00:12:35.400 and that she

00:12:36.640 made contact

00:12:37.600 with him

00:12:38.400 in an aggressive manner.

00:12:40.640 They're not showing

00:12:41.680 that video.

00:12:42.520 Now,

00:12:42.840 I do think

00:12:44.360 that there has been

00:12:45.620 a little bit of

00:12:47.120 oh,

00:12:47.720 this was a cold-blooded

00:12:48.840 murder dialed back

00:12:50.160 because of that video

00:12:51.620 and this is where

00:12:52.580 I'll point out

00:12:53.180 for you,

00:12:54.100 Buck,

00:12:54.360 I think is very true.

00:12:56.520 The fact that we

00:12:57.840 almost never

00:12:58.940 hear about

00:13:00.680 unjustified shootings

00:13:01.960 now

00:13:02.320 because there's

00:13:02.980 way more cameras

00:13:04.080 this shooting

00:13:05.340 that I have seen

00:13:06.780 the angle of it

00:13:08.060 that is the best

00:13:08.880 again,

00:13:09.180 they keep showing

00:13:09.900 the not primary angle

00:13:12.020 is the one

00:13:13.640 that appears to come

00:13:14.440 maybe off a house

00:13:15.360 or off a building

00:13:16.380 down the street

00:13:17.300 which clearly shows

00:13:19.260 beyond a shadow

00:13:20.080 of a doubt

00:13:20.740 that he was

00:13:22.060 in front of her

00:13:23.020 and that he was

00:13:23.980 being struck

00:13:25.100 at the time

00:13:25.980 that he fired

00:13:26.560 that shot.

00:13:27.640 So,

00:13:28.020 again,

00:13:28.380 they want more of this.

00:13:29.560 This is the reality.

00:13:30.640 They are desperately

00:13:31.360 hoping that ICE

00:13:32.980 kills someone else

00:13:34.200 because that is

00:13:35.580 their undoubted goal.

00:13:39.040 Well,

00:13:39.520 they want to turn

00:13:40.180 the American people

00:13:40.920 against immigration

00:13:41.660 enforcement

00:13:42.180 because they can't

00:13:43.020 make an argument

00:13:43.640 about it.

00:13:44.240 It has to be

00:13:45.080 based on some

00:13:46.320 false martyrdom narrative

00:13:47.560 because the argument,

00:13:48.940 Clay,

00:13:49.060 they would have to make

00:13:49.760 is Biden let 10 million

00:13:50.900 people into this country.

00:13:52.040 They all get to stay.

00:13:53.400 And in fact,

00:13:54.380 we should do that again

00:13:55.980 as Democrats

00:13:56.880 the next time

00:13:57.480 we have the White House.

00:13:58.240 Let's let another

00:13:58.700 10 million in

00:13:59.440 and another 10 million

00:14:00.440 because you know

00:14:00.900 we need a lot more

00:14:02.420 frauds like we see

00:14:03.700 in Minneapolis

00:14:04.420 from the Somali community

00:14:05.820 and by the way,

00:14:07.380 that is just the tip

00:14:08.080 of the iceberg

00:14:08.620 for what is happening

00:14:09.900 with so many

00:14:12.220 of these government

00:14:12.840 programs,

00:14:13.520 especially as they

00:14:14.140 pertain to issues

00:14:15.620 that might be

00:14:16.140 politically sensitive

00:14:16.980 or politically protected.

00:14:18.280 So it's,

00:14:18.800 you know,

00:14:19.060 child care,

00:14:19.780 for example.

00:14:20.120 Oh,

00:14:20.440 you don't want money

00:14:21.200 for child care?

00:14:22.120 You don't want local

00:14:22.940 community money

00:14:24.420 for the,

00:14:25.560 well,

00:14:25.780 it's actually just going

00:14:26.480 into people's bank accounts

00:14:27.380 and not taking care

00:14:27.940 of any kids.

00:14:28.400 This is across the country.

00:14:29.760 Just Minnesota

00:14:30.320 is particularly

00:14:31.120 egregious with this.

00:14:33.220 So something else

00:14:34.240 that they don't want

00:14:34.960 us to look at

00:14:35.520 and also how many

00:14:36.160 illegals are getting,

00:14:37.300 but they always tell us

00:14:37.980 illegals don't get welfare.

00:14:39.080 That is a lie.

00:14:40.080 It is always a lie.

00:14:41.840 They get all kinds

00:14:43.020 of benefits

00:14:43.540 that they're not

00:14:44.080 supposed to have access to,

00:14:45.120 but we'll come back

00:14:45.740 into this momentarily.

00:14:47.340 Certain things happen

00:14:48.160 more often in January

00:14:49.080 than any other month

00:14:50.000 and one of them

00:14:51.240 is committing ourselves

00:14:52.060 to dieting

00:14:52.780 and some people

00:14:53.720 do dry January,

00:14:54.820 but cutting back

00:14:55.580 on expenses

00:14:56.120 after a usually

00:14:57.480 a profligate

00:14:58.800 Christmas period.

00:15:00.440 There's my word

00:15:00.980 of the day.

00:15:02.320 The list goes on

00:15:03.240 and on.

00:15:03.720 So if you want

00:15:04.120 to cut back

00:15:04.540 some expenses,

00:15:05.700 how about looking

00:15:06.080 at your cell phone bill?

00:15:07.720 Using this month

00:15:08.620 to start saving

00:15:10.240 $50 a month

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00:16:53.280 Momentarily,

00:16:54.220 we're going to have,

00:16:56.080 is,

00:16:56.160 is,

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00:16:56.400 is,

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00:16:58.040 We're going to have

00:16:58.400 Vance and Levitt.

00:17:00.440 Oh,

00:17:00.880 there's,

00:17:01.140 can we go to it first?

00:17:02.180 Let's hear what they're saying.

00:17:03.020 Let's hear what the vice president

00:17:04.200 and Caroline Levitt

00:17:05.080 from the White House

00:17:05.740 are saying about the situation

00:17:06.880 in Minnesota.

00:17:07.300 Let's take it live.

00:17:08.160 Hit it.

00:17:08.440 A CNN headline

00:17:09.640 about what happened

00:17:10.800 in Minneapolis.

00:17:11.880 And this is the headline.

00:17:12.920 I'm just going to read it.

00:17:14.800 Outrage after ICE officer

00:17:16.500 kills U.S. citizen

00:17:18.060 in Minneapolis.

00:17:19.160 Well,

00:17:20.060 that's one way to put it.

00:17:21.360 And that is the way

00:17:22.160 that many people

00:17:23.120 in the corporate media

00:17:24.220 have put this attack

00:17:25.340 over the last 24 hours.

00:17:26.860 And I say attack

00:17:27.720 very,

00:17:28.800 very intentionally

00:17:29.580 because this was an attack

00:17:31.000 on federal law enforcement.

00:17:32.540 This was an attack

00:17:33.200 on law and order.

00:17:34.160 This was an attack

00:17:34.960 on the American people.

00:17:36.380 The way that the media

00:17:37.840 by and large

00:17:38.900 has reported this story

00:17:40.080 has been an absolute disgrace

00:17:42.640 and it puts our law enforcement

00:17:44.320 officers at risk

00:17:45.600 every single day.

00:17:47.120 What that headline leaves out

00:17:48.340 is the fact that

00:17:49.180 that very ICE officer

00:17:50.980 nearly had his life ended,

00:17:53.100 dragged by a car

00:17:54.480 six months ago,

00:17:56.040 33 stitches in his leg.

00:17:57.620 So you think maybe

00:17:58.320 he's a little bit sensitive

00:17:59.420 about somebody ramming him

00:18:00.980 with an automobile.

00:18:02.180 What that headline leaves out

00:18:03.500 is that that woman

00:18:04.480 was there to interfere

00:18:05.760 with a legitimate

00:18:06.720 law enforcement operation

00:18:08.060 in the United States

00:18:09.320 of America.

00:18:09.860 What that headline leaves out

00:18:11.040 is that that woman

00:18:12.120 has as part of a broader

00:18:14.000 left wing network

00:18:15.060 to attack,

00:18:16.460 to dox,

00:18:17.240 to assault,

00:18:18.080 and to make it impossible

00:18:19.000 for our ICE officers

00:18:20.000 to do their job.

00:18:21.120 If the media wants

00:18:22.120 to tell the truth,

00:18:23.300 they ought to tell the truth.

00:18:24.280 that a group of

00:18:25.380 left wing radicals

00:18:26.640 have been working tirelessly,

00:18:28.460 sometimes using

00:18:29.260 domestic terror techniques

00:18:30.740 to try to make it impossible

00:18:32.200 for the president

00:18:33.160 of the United States

00:18:34.060 to do what the American people

00:18:36.060 elected him to do,

00:18:37.080 which is enforce

00:18:37.960 our immigration laws.

00:18:39.420 The president stands with ICE.

00:18:41.100 I stand with ICE.

00:18:42.380 We stand with all of our

00:18:43.500 law enforcement officers.

00:18:45.120 And part of that

00:18:45.800 is recognizing

00:18:46.560 that you people

00:18:47.420 in the media,

00:18:48.340 not everybody in this room,

00:18:49.780 but many people in this room

00:18:51.100 have been lying

00:18:52.080 about this attack.

00:18:53.460 She was trying

00:18:55.060 to ram this guy

00:18:56.400 with her car.

00:18:58.140 He shot back.

00:18:59.540 He defended himself.

00:19:00.840 He's already been

00:19:01.700 seriously wounded

00:19:02.680 in law enforcement

00:19:03.400 operations before.

00:19:04.560 And everybody

00:19:05.200 who's been repeating

00:19:06.420 the lie

00:19:06.900 that this is some

00:19:07.760 innocent woman

00:19:08.440 who was out for a drive

00:19:09.540 in Minneapolis

00:19:10.140 when a law enforcement

00:19:11.440 officer shot at her,

00:19:12.540 you should be ashamed

00:19:13.240 of yourselves.

00:19:14.260 Every single one of you.

00:19:15.300 Questions?

00:19:15.600 Thank you, Mr. Vice President.

00:19:17.540 I wanted to read a quote

00:19:18.400 from Tim Walz earlier today.

00:19:20.040 He said,

00:19:20.300 when things looked bleak,

00:19:21.420 it was Minnesota's first

00:19:22.500 that held the line

00:19:23.240 for the nation

00:19:23.860 on July 3rd, 1863.

00:19:26.280 And I think we may be

00:19:27.160 in that moment now.

00:19:28.520 Can you comment

00:19:29.040 on his rhetoric

00:19:29.800 and Mayor Jacob Frye

00:19:31.120 and whether they want

00:19:32.220 to see unrest

00:19:32.960 in Minneapolis?

00:19:33.800 Well, that's very tough

00:19:34.600 rhetoric from a guy

00:19:35.480 who just quit

00:19:36.240 because his fraudulent

00:19:37.340 activities have been uncovered.

00:19:38.960 Look, Tim Walz is a joke.

00:19:40.340 His entire administration

00:19:41.240 has been a joke.

00:19:42.180 The idea that he's

00:19:43.520 some sort of freedom fighter,

00:19:44.620 or he's not.

00:19:45.300 He's a guy who has

00:19:46.020 enabled fraud

00:19:46.680 and maybe, in fact,

00:19:47.480 has participated in fraud.

00:19:48.860 That's what this new

00:19:49.520 Assistant Attorney General

00:19:50.380 position is going to find out.

00:19:51.700 I don't care what Tim Walz says.

00:19:53.420 I care about getting

00:19:54.120 to the bottom of this fraud

00:19:55.100 for the American people.

00:19:56.180 And I care about enforcing

00:19:57.220 the nation's immigration laws.

00:19:58.620 That's what we're going

00:19:59.180 to stay focused on.

00:20:00.080 Can I ask a question, sir?

00:20:01.380 I'm a related question here.

00:20:02.680 I mean, Democrats have

00:20:03.840 accused ICE of murder.

00:20:05.100 They've said they're

00:20:05.580 targeting Americans.

00:20:07.080 They've told ICE

00:20:07.860 to get the F out of Minnesota.

00:20:10.440 This is going to stoke

00:20:11.780 the fire against ICE agents.

00:20:13.340 And you're talking about

00:20:14.040 ICE agents right now.

00:20:14.620 What, if anything,

00:20:16.680 is the administration

00:20:17.260 going to do to make sure

00:20:18.740 these folks are protected

00:20:19.880 during these protests?

00:20:20.660 But also, should DHS

00:20:23.340 sort of revisit

00:20:24.340 their procedures here?

00:20:25.520 I mean, nobody wants

00:20:26.360 to see an American killed.

00:20:28.200 Are there changes

00:20:29.300 that need to be made

00:20:30.280 to make sure something

00:20:31.280 like this doesn't happen yet?

00:20:32.640 Look, first of all,

00:20:33.260 of course, nobody wants

00:20:34.200 an American citizen

00:20:34.980 to be killed.

00:20:35.980 This is absolutely a tragedy.

00:20:37.880 But it's a tragedy

00:20:39.080 of the making

00:20:40.120 of the far left.

00:20:41.140 They have radicalized

00:20:42.760 a very small segment

00:20:43.920 of the population,

00:20:44.840 taught them that ICE agents

00:20:46.060 are engaging

00:20:46.780 in wide-scale violation

00:20:49.280 of people's rights.

00:20:50.720 What our ICE officers

00:20:51.500 are doing

00:20:52.040 is deporting

00:20:53.280 the millions

00:20:54.100 of criminal aliens

00:20:55.180 that were let in

00:20:55.840 during the Biden administration.

00:20:56.940 So, number one,

00:20:57.780 we have to say,

00:20:59.100 as a matter of leadership,

00:21:00.180 and I would appreciate

00:21:00.860 if the Democrats

00:21:01.420 would join me on this,

00:21:02.700 let's be honest

00:21:03.380 about the fact

00:21:04.120 that we have way too many

00:21:05.220 illegal aliens

00:21:05.860 in this country.

00:21:06.580 Our ICE officers

00:21:07.340 should be supported

00:21:08.200 in doing their job.

00:21:09.600 You're trying

00:21:10.100 to actually marshal

00:21:11.840 the far left lunatic fringe

00:21:14.240 to engage in doxing,

00:21:17.140 to try to make it impossible

00:21:18.160 for them to enforce the law,

00:21:19.320 and in some cases,

00:21:20.100 actually to engage

00:21:20.900 in acts of domestic terrorism

00:21:22.240 against our law enforcement officers.

00:21:24.500 When you talk about

00:21:25.260 different plans,

00:21:26.300 different protocols,

00:21:27.060 different policies,

00:21:27.840 I forget exactly

00:21:28.760 how you asked the question.

00:21:30.060 Here's the simple fact.

00:21:31.280 What we're going to do

00:21:32.420 is make it easier

00:21:33.600 for the American People's Administration

00:21:35.180 to enforce

00:21:36.020 the American People's Law.

00:21:37.240 And that means

00:21:38.420 that Democrats

00:21:39.140 have to stop

00:21:40.800 rallying the mob

00:21:42.260 against legitimate

00:21:43.240 law enforcement operations,

00:21:44.780 and that means

00:21:45.440 that we are going

00:21:46.540 to get tougher,

00:21:47.300 and that's what

00:21:47.740 this AAG position is about.

00:21:49.540 We're going to get tougher

00:21:50.400 at the people

00:21:51.240 who are defrauding

00:21:52.400 the United States

00:21:53.700 by inciting violence

00:21:55.880 against our law enforcement officers.

00:21:58.020 That's one of the things

00:21:58.800 that we're going to do.

00:21:59.440 We've already started that work

00:22:00.680 at the Department of Justice,

00:22:02.080 but we're going to keep on doing it,

00:22:03.240 and this new AAG position

00:22:04.640 is going to kick that

00:22:05.720 into high gear.

00:22:06.440 Vice President Vance,

00:22:08.400 you just suggested

00:22:09.580 that this woman

00:22:10.240 who was killed,

00:22:10.900 Renee Goode,

00:22:11.980 is part of a broader

00:22:13.660 left-wing network.

00:22:15.420 Who do you think

00:22:16.020 is behind this

00:22:17.140 broader left-wing network?

00:22:19.040 Well, it's one of the things

00:22:19.660 we're going to have

00:22:20.000 to figure out,

00:22:20.620 but here's the way

00:22:21.180 that I put it.

00:22:21.760 When somebody throws

00:22:22.780 a brick at an ICE agent

00:22:24.160 or somebody tries

00:22:25.140 to run over an ICE agent,

00:22:26.840 who paid for the brick?

00:22:28.100 And who told protesters

00:22:29.360 to show up

00:22:30.040 and engage

00:22:30.700 in violent activity

00:22:31.840 against our law enforcement officers?

00:22:33.420 You see,

00:22:34.360 just with this

00:22:35.180 most recent

00:22:36.000 terrible incident

00:22:37.180 in Minneapolis,

00:22:38.660 you see friends

00:22:39.320 of this woman's

00:22:39.980 or other people

00:22:40.680 who are eyewitnesses

00:22:41.560 saying basically

00:22:42.220 that she was there

00:22:43.340 to engage

00:22:44.500 in obstruction

00:22:45.600 of a legitimate

00:22:46.520 law enforcement operation.

00:22:48.100 How did she get there?

00:22:48.980 How did she learn about this?

00:22:50.380 There's an entire network,

00:22:51.860 and frankly,

00:22:52.400 some of the media

00:22:52.940 are participating in it,

00:22:54.260 that is trying

00:22:55.020 to incite violence

00:22:56.160 against our law enforcement officers.

00:22:58.440 It's ridiculous,

00:22:59.420 it's preposterous,

00:23:00.400 and part of our

00:23:01.300 investigatory work

00:23:02.180 is getting to the bottom of it.

00:23:03.440 Who's funding it?

00:23:04.440 Who's supporting it?

00:23:05.520 Who's cheerleading it?

00:23:06.560 And of course,

00:23:07.080 if there's a legal activity

00:23:08.120 related to that,

00:23:09.860 we're going to get

00:23:10.240 to the bottom of that

00:23:10.820 and prosecute it

00:23:11.460 where we can.

00:23:12.860 Mr. President,

00:23:13.720 thank you for taking

00:23:14.420 questions today.

00:23:15.800 Is there a risk

00:23:16.820 with you describing her

00:23:18.540 as a derange leftist,

00:23:19.860 talking about

00:23:20.400 very specific facts

00:23:21.680 of these events,

00:23:23.000 when an investigation

00:23:24.000 is just beginning?

00:23:25.380 Are you preempting

00:23:26.700 a thorough investigation

00:23:28.420 by drawing such conclusions?

00:23:30.120 And have you received

00:23:31.240 any information

00:23:32.240 beyond the videos

00:23:33.460 we've seen publicly

00:23:34.420 about this individual

00:23:36.020 per specific acts

00:23:37.600 that has informed

00:23:38.640 your point of view?

00:23:39.940 Well, first of all,

00:23:40.520 the Department of Justice

00:23:41.260 is going to investigate this.

00:23:43.900 The Department of Homeland Security

00:23:44.860 is already investigating this.

00:23:46.380 But the simple fact is,

00:23:47.980 what you see

00:23:48.480 is what you get in this case.

00:23:49.880 You have a woman

00:23:50.580 who is trying to obstruct

00:23:52.660 a legitimate

00:23:53.280 law enforcement operation.

00:23:54.380 Nobody debates that.

00:23:55.660 You have a woman

00:23:56.260 who aimed her car

00:23:57.560 at a law enforcement officer

00:23:58.820 and pressed on the accelerator.

00:24:00.520 Nobody debates that.

00:24:01.640 I can believe

00:24:02.180 that her death

00:24:02.660 is a tragedy

00:24:03.340 while also recognizing

00:24:04.760 that it's a tragedy

00:24:05.600 of her own making

00:24:06.540 and a tragedy

00:24:07.520 of the far left

00:24:08.920 who has marshaled

00:24:09.860 an entire movement,

00:24:11.480 a lunatic fringe,

00:24:12.880 against our law enforcement officers.

00:24:15.180 I think what is

00:24:16.300 clearly happening here,

00:24:17.380 and it's going to keep

00:24:17.980 on happening

00:24:18.560 unless the Democrats

00:24:19.460 wake up and say,

00:24:20.520 you know what?

00:24:21.200 You don't have to agree

00:24:21.920 with our immigration policies.

00:24:23.460 You don't have to agree

00:24:24.020 with what the president

00:24:24.820 or the vice president

00:24:25.640 believe about immigration enforcement.

00:24:27.180 But why don't you take this

00:24:28.540 to the ballot box?

00:24:29.700 Why don't you vote?

00:24:30.660 Why don't you organize?

00:24:31.820 Instead,

00:24:32.660 what some of them are doing,

00:24:34.060 what some of them are doing

00:24:35.280 is encouraging people

00:24:36.540 to get violent

00:24:37.580 with our law enforcement officials.

00:24:39.460 It's disgraceful,

00:24:40.580 and it's got to stop.

00:24:41.400 Just to follow up

00:24:43.340 on that question,

00:24:43.960 and again,

00:24:44.240 thank you for taking questions,

00:24:45.380 Mr. Vice President.

00:24:46.140 There's clearly a lot of emotion

00:24:47.500 in Minnesota,

00:24:48.720 across the country,

00:24:49.640 over this incident.

00:24:51.080 You're calling

00:24:51.740 Renee Good a deranged leftist.

00:24:53.600 There's been heated rhetoric

00:24:54.620 that we've also heard

00:24:55.540 from officials.

00:24:56.700 What responsibility

00:24:57.380 do you and the president

00:24:58.820 have to diffuse

00:24:59.760 some of the tension

00:25:00.460 that we are seeing

00:25:01.380 play out in Minnesota,

00:25:02.760 bring down the temperature

00:25:03.660 as this investigation

00:25:04.620 is unfolding?

00:25:05.760 What we have

00:25:06.280 a responsibility to do

00:25:07.660 is to protect the people

00:25:09.000 who are enforcing the law

00:25:10.000 and protect the country

00:25:11.040 writ large.

00:25:11.680 Whether you're a Democrat

00:25:12.280 or a Republican,

00:25:13.580 you deserve to have

00:25:14.360 the people's laws enforced

00:25:15.640 in the United States of America.

00:25:17.320 Now, again,

00:25:18.060 I'm not happy

00:25:19.480 that this woman

00:25:20.080 lost her life.

00:25:21.440 I'm not happy

00:25:22.020 that this woman

00:25:22.680 was there at a protest

00:25:24.440 violating the law

00:25:25.820 by interfering

00:25:26.600 with a law enforcement action.

00:25:28.240 I think that we can all recognize

00:25:29.560 that the best way

00:25:30.400 to turn down the temperature

00:25:31.420 is to tell people

00:25:32.760 to take their concerns

00:25:33.820 about immigration policy

00:25:34.980 to the ballot box.

00:25:36.480 Stop assaulting

00:25:37.680 and stop inciting violence

00:25:39.200 against our law enforcement officers.

00:25:41.060 That's the best way

00:25:41.820 to take down the temperature.

00:25:43.140 And we're not,

00:25:44.120 look,

00:25:44.560 we're not going to give in

00:25:45.780 to terrorism on this.

00:25:47.240 And that's exactly

00:25:47.880 what's happening.

00:25:48.780 People trying to antagonize

00:25:50.780 to commit acts of violence.

00:25:52.300 They throw bricks at them.

00:25:53.380 Sometimes they shoot at them.

00:25:54.840 Sometimes they dox them.

00:25:56.080 Sometimes they go

00:25:56.680 to their place of residence

00:25:57.740 and harass their families.

00:25:59.420 This is classic terrorism.

00:26:01.080 And we cannot say

00:26:02.960 that when a far left fringe

00:26:05.640 is inciting violence

00:26:07.200 against our brave

00:26:08.240 law enforcement officials

00:26:09.300 that we're no longer

00:26:10.200 going to enforce the law.

00:26:11.520 That's rewarding

00:26:12.340 the very people

00:26:13.240 who are engaged

00:26:13.900 in this garbage.

00:26:14.840 The actual reward

00:26:15.620 that they just got

00:26:16.340 is a new assistant

00:26:17.720 attorney general

00:26:18.420 who is going to prosecute

00:26:19.800 and investigate this stuff

00:26:21.040 even more aggressively

00:26:22.800 than before.

00:26:23.480 Thanks for taking my question.

00:26:28.540 So the head of Minnesota's

00:26:29.920 investigations agency

00:26:31.200 says that the U.S.

00:26:32.140 attorney's office

00:26:32.780 has essentially cut off

00:26:33.800 the state investigations

00:26:35.340 agency's access

00:26:36.720 to the investigation.

00:26:38.480 What is the precedent

00:26:39.220 for that?

00:26:39.720 And why shouldn't

00:26:40.580 the Minnesota officials

00:26:41.620 on the ground

00:26:42.120 have access and evidence

00:26:43.100 to work on this investigation?

00:26:45.040 First of all,

00:26:45.440 I wish the state officials

00:26:46.760 in Minnesota

00:26:47.300 would investigate

00:26:48.620 why you have so many people

00:26:50.540 who are using their vehicles

00:26:51.820 and other means

00:26:52.540 to actually interfere

00:26:53.740 with a legitimate

00:26:54.300 law enforcement operation.

00:26:55.860 The precedent here

00:26:56.600 is very simple.

00:26:57.420 You have a federal

00:26:57.940 law enforcement official

00:26:59.040 engaging in federal

00:27:00.060 law enforcement action.

00:27:01.340 That's a federal issue.

00:27:02.500 That guy is protected

00:27:03.180 by absolute immunity.

00:27:04.560 He was doing his job.

00:27:06.020 The idea that Tim Walsh

00:27:07.520 and a bunch of radicals

00:27:08.640 in Minneapolis

00:27:09.180 are going to go after

00:27:10.200 and make this guy's life

00:27:11.300 miserable because he was

00:27:12.900 doing the job

00:27:13.800 that he was asked to do

00:27:15.120 is preposterous.

00:27:16.540 The unprecedented thing

00:27:17.860 is the idea

00:27:18.760 that a local official

00:27:20.280 can actually prosecute

00:27:21.840 a federal official

00:27:22.720 with absolute immunity.

00:27:23.940 I've never seen

00:27:24.500 anything like that.

00:27:25.600 It would get tossed out

00:27:26.520 by a judge.

00:27:27.440 So what I'd like

00:27:27.900 Minnesota to focus on

00:27:28.920 is the real issue

00:27:29.840 that they're encouraging people.

00:27:32.020 Minneapolis officials

00:27:32.920 are encouraging people

00:27:34.180 to commit violence

00:27:35.120 against ICE officials.

00:27:36.360 It's ridiculous.

00:27:37.200 It's got to stop.

00:27:38.260 Go ahead.

00:27:38.760 Mr. President, thank you.

00:27:40.100 You said earlier

00:27:41.160 that there's a left-wing network

00:27:44.040 to attack,

00:27:44.980 to dox,

00:27:45.560 to assault,

00:27:46.200 and make it impossible

00:27:46.980 for ICE officers

00:27:48.000 to do their job.

00:27:49.560 You told my colleague

00:27:51.220 just now

00:27:51.720 that there's an investigation

00:27:53.760 going on

00:27:54.980 into that network.

00:27:56.300 Yeah.

00:27:56.680 So if everything

00:27:58.060 that you say

00:27:58.880 is true,

00:28:00.960 how does being part

00:28:02.000 of that network

00:28:02.680 justify being shot?

00:28:05.680 Well, being part

00:28:06.680 of a network

00:28:07.260 doesn't justify

00:28:08.040 being shot,

00:28:08.980 but ramming

00:28:09.860 an ICE officer

00:28:10.620 with your car,

00:28:11.480 that's what justifies

00:28:12.380 being shot.

00:28:13.240 It's not a good thing,

00:28:14.020 by the way,

00:28:14.420 but when you force

00:28:15.480 somebody to engage

00:28:16.440 in self-defense,

00:28:17.340 it's almost

00:28:18.080 a preposterous question.

00:28:19.620 I'm not saying

00:28:20.340 that funding

00:28:20.980 some of this stuff

00:28:22.320 justifies capital punishment.

00:28:24.620 Nobody would suggest that.

00:28:26.300 The reason this woman

00:28:27.440 is dead

00:28:27.860 is because she tried

00:28:29.120 to ram somebody

00:28:29.880 with her car

00:28:30.580 and that guy

00:28:31.380 acted in self-defense.

00:28:32.780 That is why

00:28:33.640 she lost her life

00:28:34.800 and that is the tragedy.

00:28:35.960 Now,

00:28:36.440 there may be

00:28:37.220 other violations

00:28:38.660 of the law

00:28:39.280 and other penalties

00:28:40.420 that are associated

00:28:42.500 with those violations

00:28:43.320 of the law.

00:28:43.800 For example,

00:28:44.420 if you are funding

00:28:45.740 violence

00:28:46.740 against our

00:28:47.300 law enforcement officers,

00:28:48.600 I'm not a prosecutor.

00:28:50.040 My guess is

00:28:50.620 that's not the sort of thing

00:28:51.620 that earns capital punishment,

00:28:52.920 but it should sure as hell

00:28:53.940 earn you a few years

00:28:54.840 in prison

00:28:55.380 if you're funding

00:28:56.440 the effort

00:28:56.960 to try to insult

00:28:57.780 our law enforcement officers.

00:28:59.800 What is,

00:29:00.400 I'm sorry, guys,

00:29:01.600 what's going on here?

00:29:03.120 You guys are meant

00:29:04.560 to report the truth.

00:29:06.480 How have you let yourself

00:29:07.700 become agents

00:29:08.660 of propaganda

00:29:09.720 of a radical fringe

00:29:11.220 that's making it harder

00:29:12.220 for us to enforce our laws?

00:29:13.500 You just asked me a question

00:29:15.140 that presumed

00:29:16.340 that the reason

00:29:17.280 why this woman died

00:29:18.520 is because she was engaged

00:29:19.920 in legitimate protests.

00:29:21.180 She tried to run somebody

00:29:22.140 over with her car

00:29:22.880 and the guy defended himself

00:29:24.160 when that happened.

00:29:24.820 Next question.

00:29:25.820 The investigation

00:29:26.880 is still ongoing.

00:29:27.820 I said next question.

00:29:28.980 Mr. Vice President,

00:29:30.060 I mean, you presumably

00:29:30.840 watched the video yourself.

00:29:32.660 There's not the slightest doubt

00:29:34.080 in your mind,

00:29:34.920 having viewed it,

00:29:36.080 that this, the victim,

00:29:39.020 you still believe

00:29:40.500 that she deliberately

00:29:41.280 tried to ram him

00:29:42.180 despite seeing this video?

00:29:44.660 Look, I don't know

00:29:45.280 what is in a person's heart

00:29:46.620 or in a person's head,

00:29:47.740 and obviously we're not

00:29:48.360 going to get the chance

00:29:49.220 to ask this woman

00:29:50.040 what was going on.

00:29:51.100 What I am certain of

00:29:51.960 is that she violated the law.

00:29:53.460 What I am certain of

00:29:54.220 is that that officer

00:29:54.860 had every reason

00:29:55.700 to think that he was

00:29:56.580 under very serious threat

00:29:58.580 for injury or,

00:30:00.100 in fact, his life.

00:30:01.500 What I am certain of

00:30:02.520 is that she accelerated

00:30:03.820 in a way where

00:30:05.020 she ran into the guy.

00:30:07.160 I don't know

00:30:08.020 what was in her heart

00:30:09.260 and what was in her head,

00:30:10.440 but I know that

00:30:11.160 she violated the law

00:30:12.100 and I know that officer

00:30:12.880 was acting in self-defense.

00:30:14.100 It raises an interesting

00:30:15.020 point, though.

00:30:15.520 Look, if people want to say

00:30:17.280 that we should have

00:30:18.260 a legitimate debate

00:30:19.460 about, you know,

00:30:20.160 what was she really doing,

00:30:21.560 right?

00:30:21.700 Was she panicking

00:30:22.620 when she drove

00:30:23.760 into this officer

00:30:24.500 or was she actually

00:30:25.280 trying to ram him?

00:30:26.540 That's a reasonable conversation.

00:30:28.880 What's not reasonable

00:30:30.000 is for so many of you

00:30:31.300 to plaster all over the media

00:30:32.580 that this was

00:30:33.500 an innocent woman

00:30:34.500 and that the ICE agent

00:30:35.660 committed murder,

00:30:36.600 which is what many of you

00:30:37.540 have said explicitly

00:30:38.500 and some of you

00:30:39.360 have said implicitly.

00:30:41.160 That's what I have

00:30:41.960 an objection to.

00:30:42.920 The idea

00:30:43.660 that this was not justified

00:30:45.160 is absurd,

00:30:46.340 and I think everybody

00:30:46.880 knows it in their heart.

00:30:48.220 Yeah.

00:30:48.720 All right, all right.

00:30:49.440 I got it.

00:30:49.880 We got to leave it there

00:30:50.560 for a second, Clay.

00:30:51.960 We usually don't take

00:30:52.960 something live for that long

00:30:54.160 unless it's like

00:30:54.800 a presidential address

00:30:55.660 during the show.

00:30:56.760 That was an absolute clinic.

00:30:58.940 Masterclass.

00:30:59.340 J.D. Vance.

00:31:00.480 Masterclass.

00:31:01.140 That was,

00:31:02.600 whew, man.

00:31:04.160 I got to say,

00:31:05.780 I got to take a walk

00:31:06.460 after that one.

00:31:07.420 Let me also point this

00:31:08.940 as you get ready

00:31:09.580 to do your read.

00:31:10.780 CNN, to their credit,

00:31:12.020 has covered

00:31:12.560 that entire press conference.

00:31:14.140 This is my quad box.

00:31:15.900 Obviously, Fox News

00:31:16.960 is covering it.

00:31:18.160 Not one minute

00:31:19.160 of J.D. Vance talking

00:31:20.800 has been covered

00:31:21.840 by MSNBC.

00:31:23.480 Of course.

00:31:24.260 Not one minute.

00:31:24.680 Because they need

00:31:25.660 to use this

00:31:26.480 for ratings

00:31:27.100 and for emotional impact

00:31:29.420 as long as they can,

00:31:30.900 and J.D. just threw

00:31:31.760 cold water all over that.

00:31:33.020 Because his point

00:31:33.560 is absolutely correct,

00:31:35.020 which is you can say

00:31:36.200 maybe the woman

00:31:37.080 was trying to do

00:31:37.760 this or that,

00:31:38.720 but to say that

00:31:39.360 this cop committed murder

00:31:40.380 is insane, okay?

00:31:41.620 Yes.

00:31:42.300 It's insane.

00:31:43.480 So that's where we are.

00:31:45.060 We've got video.

00:31:45.860 We can see the video.

00:31:47.520 You know,

00:31:47.780 she forced this situation.

00:31:49.120 It's very sad.

00:31:50.600 What she did

00:31:51.000 was very dumb.

00:31:52.260 She didn't,

00:31:52.960 she shouldn't,

00:31:53.500 you know,

00:31:54.040 have paid for it

00:31:54.920 with her life,

00:31:55.780 but it's not the cop's fault

00:31:57.180 that, in this case,

00:31:58.060 the ICE officer's fault

00:31:58.980 that he defended himself

00:32:00.700 under the situation.

00:32:01.920 Not his fault criminally,

00:32:03.200 not his fault ethically.

00:32:05.800 All right,

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00:33:34.680 Welcome back in.

00:33:35.840 Hour number three

00:33:36.520 Thursday edition

00:33:37.460 Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.

00:33:41.360 This press conference

00:33:42.920 is continuing,

00:33:44.540 by the way,

00:33:46.480 as J.D. Vance

00:33:48.380 is continuing

00:33:49.080 to take questions.

00:33:50.360 In fact,

00:33:50.980 literally as I just said that,

00:33:53.120 he is now walking

00:33:54.180 out of the White House

00:33:55.820 press briefing room

00:33:57.380 alongside of Caroline Leavitt.

00:33:59.180 Answered questions

00:34:00.220 for what?

00:34:00.960 Roughly 25 minutes

00:34:02.200 or so,

00:34:02.960 I would say, Buck.

00:34:04.440 Also,

00:34:05.300 Department DHS

00:34:06.880 has just

00:34:07.660 released information.

00:34:10.880 J.D. Vance

00:34:11.440 mentioned this.

00:34:12.200 We're about to be joined

00:34:12.900 by Katie Zachariah.

00:34:14.160 We'll bring her in

00:34:14.920 on this as well.

00:34:17.060 This past summer,

00:34:19.140 this same

00:34:19.920 ICE agent

00:34:20.880 who fired

00:34:21.880 the shot

00:34:22.820 was dragged

00:34:24.420 50 yards

00:34:25.760 in Bloomington,

00:34:27.320 Minnesota

00:34:27.820 by an individual

00:34:29.280 who refused

00:34:30.540 to stop

00:34:31.520 when commanded

00:34:32.820 to do so.

00:34:34.680 And this is the release

00:34:36.120 from June 18,

00:34:37.600 2025

00:34:38.200 that was just sent

00:34:40.260 to me.

00:34:41.160 During a traffic stop,

00:34:42.700 this individual

00:34:43.520 refused to exit

00:34:44.700 his vehicle

00:34:45.380 or stop.

00:34:46.320 He tried to flee

00:34:47.420 law enforcement,

00:34:49.220 put his car

00:34:50.120 in drive

00:34:50.980 while the ICE

00:34:51.860 officer still had

00:34:53.100 his arm

00:34:53.700 inside the vehicle,

00:34:55.500 dragging the officer

00:34:56.640 approximately 50 yards.

00:34:59.160 The criminal

00:34:59.920 illegal alien

00:35:00.880 was then arrested.

00:35:02.720 The ICE officer

00:35:04.240 was hospitalized

00:35:05.220 with significant injuries.

00:35:07.260 this is,

00:35:09.200 according to DHS,

00:35:10.440 the same individual

00:35:11.240 who fired the shots

00:35:12.660 in what he probably

00:35:14.440 saw to be

00:35:15.880 potentially

00:35:16.740 a very,

00:35:17.740 very similar

00:35:18.400 situation

00:35:19.580 as he felt

00:35:21.520 that he was

00:35:22.220 in peril

00:35:22.860 having already

00:35:24.300 been dragged

00:35:24.980 by someone

00:35:25.640 who refused

00:35:26.340 to stop.

00:35:26.820 So,

00:35:27.240 that is information

00:35:28.280 that is coming out.

00:35:29.080 Katie Zachariah

00:35:29.900 joins us now.

00:35:31.260 Katie,

00:35:31.700 I think you're

00:35:32.300 a mom of four.

00:35:33.700 This individual

00:35:34.660 who was shot

00:35:35.400 is a mom of three.

00:35:37.300 You probably

00:35:37.760 talk to a lot

00:35:38.560 of moms

00:35:38.980 as all moms do.

00:35:40.860 How do you think

00:35:41.880 we end up

00:35:42.760 in this situation

00:35:43.660 where the Democrats

00:35:44.880 have convinced

00:35:45.700 a mother of three

00:35:47.020 that she should be

00:35:47.840 in a car

00:35:48.460 trying to obstruct

00:35:49.980 ICE raids

00:35:51.180 and it led to

00:35:52.460 this unfortunate

00:35:53.320 outcome?

00:35:55.520 Looking at

00:35:56.340 Hillary Clinton's

00:35:57.360 tweet today,

00:35:58.760 not condemning

00:36:00.040 the behavior

00:36:00.900 towards the ICE agent,

00:36:02.400 but enabling

00:36:03.060 the protesters

00:36:03.940 it's a direct

00:36:05.940 line coming

00:36:06.660 from the very

00:36:07.700 top of the

00:36:08.440 Democrat Party.

00:36:09.640 We see it out

00:36:10.200 here with Karen

00:36:10.940 Bass and Gavin

00:36:12.420 Newsom enabling

00:36:13.680 the violent rhetoric

00:36:14.660 against ICE agents,

00:36:16.200 essentially upending

00:36:17.560 support for federal

00:36:18.960 law enforcement

00:36:19.740 and encouraging

00:36:21.520 people to either

00:36:23.180 stand in the way

00:36:24.320 or drive against.

00:36:26.600 I mean,

00:36:26.800 they're not necessarily

00:36:27.640 saying it,

00:36:28.420 but they're insinuating

00:36:29.680 that you should

00:36:30.520 fight back against

00:36:31.520 these ICE agents.

00:36:32.740 And time and time

00:36:33.360 again,

00:36:33.900 we're seeing ICE

00:36:35.060 agents are being

00:36:35.720 injured,

00:36:36.200 their families

00:36:36.640 are being doxed.

00:36:37.540 It's why they are

00:36:38.380 masked to protect

00:36:40.120 their identities.

00:36:41.560 And it's

00:36:42.420 continuing through,

00:36:44.220 it's pulsing

00:36:46.160 through the

00:36:46.560 Democrat Party

00:36:47.360 to fight ICE.

00:36:48.920 And it's so

00:36:49.900 disgusting and

00:36:50.760 disturbing because

00:36:51.800 they are just

00:36:52.840 fixing the problems

00:36:53.800 that the Democrats

00:36:55.240 themselves created.

00:36:56.320 You know,

00:36:57.720 one of the things

00:36:58.260 that's also gotten

00:36:58.960 a lot of attention,

00:37:00.180 Katie,

00:37:01.040 recently,

00:37:02.200 is the extent

00:37:03.920 of fraud

00:37:05.700 within the

00:37:07.560 illegal and

00:37:08.680 legal immigrant

00:37:09.340 community as it

00:37:10.380 exists in

00:37:11.240 Minneapolis.

00:37:12.800 And some people

00:37:13.380 have already

00:37:13.740 started to raise,

00:37:14.820 I know you're a

00:37:15.360 Californian,

00:37:16.060 you pay very

00:37:16.520 close attention

00:37:17.260 to the political

00:37:19.340 situation in your

00:37:20.020 home state.

00:37:20.600 They're saying

00:37:21.420 if it's this bad

00:37:22.880 in Minnesota,

00:37:24.520 the fraud,

00:37:25.540 it's got to be

00:37:26.200 even worse in

00:37:26.720 California.

00:37:27.360 You already

00:37:27.480 mentioned ICE

00:37:28.560 agents,

00:37:29.020 they can get no

00:37:29.900 help whatsoever

00:37:30.740 from state and

00:37:31.720 local authorities.

00:37:32.540 If anything,

00:37:33.000 they get obstruction

00:37:33.660 from state and

00:37:34.180 local authorities

00:37:34.720 in your state.

00:37:35.580 But on the

00:37:36.000 fraud side of

00:37:36.780 things,

00:37:37.080 when it comes

00:37:37.640 to communities

00:37:39.760 that Gavin

00:37:40.840 Newsom wants

00:37:42.120 to try to

00:37:43.680 garner favor

00:37:45.220 with,

00:37:45.960 do we have

00:37:46.300 any sense as

00:37:47.120 to how much

00:37:48.040 worse that actually

00:37:48.960 is or how much

00:37:49.560 bigger it is

00:37:50.260 than what we've

00:37:50.640 seen in

00:37:50.980 Minnesota?

00:37:52.500 Well,

00:37:52.980 California is

00:37:53.940 an enormous

00:37:54.840 state and

00:37:56.020 going higher

00:37:57.120 level than

00:37:57.700 this,

00:37:58.040 than California

00:37:58.600 and Minnesota.

00:37:59.520 The president

00:38:00.140 signed an

00:38:00.820 executive order

00:38:01.500 in April

00:38:02.000 on sanctuary

00:38:02.880 cities,

00:38:03.560 sanctuary states

00:38:04.340 and jurisdictions,

00:38:05.560 essentially saying

00:38:06.420 that they're in

00:38:06.840 violation of the

00:38:07.560 Supremacy Clause

00:38:08.320 and his Article

00:38:09.020 Two Powers.

00:38:09.840 And yes,

00:38:10.280 they are.

00:38:11.080 And so what

00:38:11.520 should happen

00:38:12.160 as a first

00:38:13.280 step is there

00:38:14.460 should be a

00:38:14.920 suspension of all

00:38:15.920 federal aid to

00:38:17.180 any city or

00:38:18.200 state that

00:38:18.780 continues these

00:38:19.780 sanctuary policies.

00:38:21.060 Look,

00:38:21.600 sanctuary city in

00:38:22.520 Minnesota,

00:38:23.140 sanctuary cities in

00:38:24.160 California,

00:38:24.720 and there is a

00:38:26.080 clear pattern of

00:38:27.160 behavior from

00:38:27.880 these states and

00:38:29.440 jurisdictions that

00:38:30.740 say the laws of

00:38:32.460 the land don't

00:38:33.100 apply to us.

00:38:33.860 So we're going to,

00:38:35.040 we're going to

00:38:35.640 funnel money,

00:38:36.320 we're going to,

00:38:36.700 you know,

00:38:36.900 have these fraudulent

00:38:37.900 daycare centers,

00:38:38.720 we're going to have

00:38:39.480 illegals residing

00:38:40.860 here,

00:38:41.360 and we're going to

00:38:41.720 quote,

00:38:42.220 protect them with

00:38:43.460 this dystopian

00:38:44.380 language that it's

00:38:45.240 a sanctuary,

00:38:45.880 really in violation

00:38:46.960 of the supremacy

00:38:47.580 clause.

00:38:48.140 So out in

00:38:48.900 California,

00:38:49.460 even Ro Khanna,

00:38:50.720 Ro Khanna,

00:38:51.920 who is a hard

00:38:52.760 Democrat,

00:38:53.400 has said,

00:38:53.920 I want to

00:38:54.520 investigate the

00:38:55.860 $72 billion of

00:38:57.760 fraud that has

00:38:58.640 been under Gavin

00:38:59.520 Newsom's watch.

00:39:00.480 And if he's

00:39:01.060 highlighting $72

00:39:02.460 billion,

00:39:03.240 we know it's

00:39:04.100 probably double or

00:39:05.460 even more.

00:39:06.640 And that's not

00:39:07.440 even touching the

00:39:08.540 NGOs that have

00:39:09.860 been funneling

00:39:10.500 money and these

00:39:12.000 daycare centers that

00:39:13.100 now are being

00:39:13.660 exposed in San

00:39:14.800 Diego right here

00:39:16.360 under Gavin

00:39:17.240 Newsom's watch.

00:39:19.380 Katie,

00:39:20.160 thanks for coming

00:39:21.360 on,

00:39:21.600 and we expected

00:39:22.180 we would talk

00:39:22.800 more about this,

00:39:23.660 but obviously the

00:39:24.420 situation in

00:39:25.020 Minneapolis took

00:39:25.860 off.

00:39:26.980 It's basically the

00:39:28.000 one-year anniversary

00:39:28.880 of the wildfires in

00:39:31.000 California,

00:39:32.140 and I was reading

00:39:33.100 quite a lot about

00:39:34.480 them.

00:39:34.740 In fact,

00:39:35.040 when I was up at

00:39:35.740 the FIFA World Cup

00:39:37.060 event,

00:39:37.900 one of the women

00:39:39.660 who lost her

00:39:40.540 home came up to

00:39:42.100 me and said,

00:39:42.660 will you please

00:39:43.220 talk about how

00:39:43.980 slow,

00:39:44.800 the rebuild is

00:39:45.860 going in L.A.?

00:39:46.860 A lot of people

00:39:47.500 are not paying

00:39:48.080 attention to it,

00:39:49.240 but it is a

00:39:50.040 total mess in

00:39:51.200 Malibu and

00:39:51.900 Altadena and

00:39:53.120 Pacific Palisades.

00:39:54.620 What is the

00:39:55.400 story there?

00:39:56.560 What can you tell

00:39:57.240 us about on the

00:39:58.020 ground what L.A.

00:39:59.060 is like now,

00:40:00.120 one year after

00:40:00.920 those wildfires?

00:40:02.780 We were in the

00:40:03.840 Pacific Palisades

00:40:04.820 last night,

00:40:05.960 and not one

00:40:07.300 home,

00:40:08.180 there might be

00:40:08.960 the beginning of

00:40:09.640 construction,

00:40:10.460 but not one

00:40:11.220 full home has

00:40:12.720 been rebuilt a

00:40:14.160 year after

00:40:14.720 a year in the

00:40:15.880 Pacific Palisades.

00:40:17.280 And what we've

00:40:18.060 seen is Gavin

00:40:18.780 Newsom, two days

00:40:20.180 ago, was saying

00:40:21.320 to MS Now,

00:40:22.540 look, the debris

00:40:24.040 removal has been

00:40:24.980 incredible, but

00:40:25.840 President Trump

00:40:26.780 hasn't offered any

00:40:27.780 solutions.

00:40:28.400 Actually, the Army

00:40:30.380 Corps of Engineers

00:40:31.220 is federal,

00:40:32.620 FEMA is federal,

00:40:34.140 the EPA removing

00:40:35.560 hazardous waste is

00:40:36.780 federal, and I got

00:40:37.900 to visit the whole

00:40:39.600 site of the Palisades

00:40:40.560 with Lee Zeldin,

00:40:41.720 EPA Administrator,

00:40:43.180 and those effective

00:40:44.840 policies have all

00:40:45.900 been from President

00:40:46.640 Trump.

00:40:47.240 All debris removal

00:40:48.480 has been on the

00:40:49.860 federal side.

00:40:50.860 Gavin Newsom and

00:40:51.600 Karen Bass have

00:40:52.320 not essentially cut

00:40:55.620 all the red tape

00:40:56.560 to help promote,

00:40:58.500 rebuild.

00:40:59.300 They have allowed

00:41:00.100 the California

00:41:00.720 Coastal Commission

00:41:01.600 and these other

00:41:02.400 environmental agencies

00:41:03.500 to tie up people

00:41:05.020 in the permit process,

00:41:06.140 and the homeowners

00:41:07.320 insurance and the

00:41:08.420 fire insurance,

00:41:09.680 they are not putting

00:41:11.140 any pressure on them

00:41:12.440 to deliver results

00:41:13.400 for these people.

00:41:14.480 So what we're seeing

00:41:15.620 is as I'm driving

00:41:16.940 down the coast,

00:41:17.980 as I'm driving

00:41:18.800 through the Palisades,

00:41:19.760 it's for sale signs

00:41:21.500 everywhere,

00:41:22.360 and these people are

00:41:23.720 losing huge property

00:41:25.080 value because they've

00:41:26.080 gone down, I think,

00:41:27.260 40% are some of the

00:41:29.000 numbers we were

00:41:29.640 hearing yesterday.

00:41:30.580 So they're not going

00:41:31.340 to be able to get a

00:41:32.160 return on this,

00:41:33.180 yet they're paying

00:41:33.740 property taxes and

00:41:35.240 standing mortgages

00:41:36.120 on lots that they

00:41:37.740 can't even live on.

00:41:39.180 Katie, speaking of

00:41:40.520 for sale signs,

00:41:42.100 there's been some

00:41:43.480 recent movement

00:41:45.060 among some of the

00:41:47.040 billionaires in your

00:41:47.820 home state of

00:41:48.300 California.

00:41:48.800 I think actually one

00:41:49.500 of them, not

00:41:51.440 Sergei, the other

00:41:52.340 one from Larry Page,

00:41:53.940 does that sound

00:41:54.300 right, from Google,

00:41:55.380 just bought a

00:41:56.780 $140 million

00:41:57.800 property a little

00:42:00.280 ways from where I

00:42:01.500 currently am right

00:42:02.160 now in Miami.

00:42:03.760 So there's already

00:42:05.340 billionaires,

00:42:06.120 there's already

00:42:06.540 been some movement

00:42:07.580 among these

00:42:07.980 billionaires to move

00:42:08.800 out of your state

00:42:09.620 because there's a

00:42:11.060 billionaire wealth tax

00:42:13.180 that actually is being

00:42:14.320 considered.

00:42:15.080 Can you tell us about

00:42:15.700 the status of that?

00:42:18.700 On the other side of

00:42:20.040 Ro Khanna, this is his

00:42:21.400 proposal to tax 5%,

00:42:23.980 5% billionaire tax,

00:42:25.720 and it would be, if

00:42:26.680 passed, it would be

00:42:27.440 retroactive to January

00:42:29.280 1st of this year for

00:42:31.120 these billionaires.

00:42:32.220 And here's the issue.

00:42:33.560 You start digging into

00:42:35.680 the bill, to this

00:42:36.660 proposal, to this

00:42:37.800 quote, act, and it's

00:42:39.500 to fund 90% for

00:42:42.520 Medi-Cal, 90% for

00:42:44.920 health care.

00:42:45.740 Now, let's go back in

00:42:47.220 time to when Gavin

00:42:48.600 Newsom decided to

00:42:49.860 promote free health

00:42:52.880 care for illegal

00:42:53.780 immigrants on the back

00:42:54.940 of the California

00:42:55.640 taxpayer.

00:42:56.680 Free.

00:42:57.080 It's not free,

00:42:57.800 including sex changes

00:42:59.000 for illegal immigrants.

00:43:00.180 Now, he went to the

00:43:01.600 tune of $23 billion

00:43:03.040 uncovered that we

00:43:04.880 spent on illegal

00:43:05.600 immigrant health care.

00:43:07.040 He made the entire

00:43:08.260 Medi-Cal system

00:43:09.420 insolvent, begged the

00:43:12.040 federal government for

00:43:12.840 a $3.4 billion loan

00:43:15.560 for Medi-Cal, and now

00:43:18.140 their proposal is to

00:43:19.420 tax our most successful

00:43:21.080 are the people that

00:43:23.120 actually bring industry

00:43:24.360 and generate wealth in

00:43:26.220 California, and they're

00:43:27.140 going to punish this

00:43:28.420 group of people for

00:43:29.820 their failed and

00:43:30.900 reckless policies.

00:43:32.520 It is just really the

00:43:34.620 nail in the coffin.

00:43:36.140 If you want to drive any

00:43:37.340 further success out of

00:43:38.660 California, this 5%

00:43:40.720 billionaire tax will

00:43:41.780 surely do it.

00:43:43.640 Katie, I mentioned

00:43:45.000 again the four kids.

00:43:47.500 I thought, again, this

00:43:48.800 is under the radar.

00:43:50.120 It's big news.

00:43:51.480 What is the reaction that

00:43:54.300 you have heard among sort

00:43:55.940 of the Maha Mom movement,

00:43:57.800 which is an intriguing

00:43:58.960 collection of people,

00:44:00.720 based on the big news

00:44:01.780 about the food pyramid

00:44:02.760 from RFK Jr., and also

00:44:04.740 the decisions about what

00:44:06.080 vaccine should or should

00:44:07.360 not be given to kids?

00:44:08.860 Again, Minneapolis has

00:44:10.560 kind of snowed under a lot

00:44:12.760 of these stories, but that

00:44:14.320 was a pretty significant

00:44:15.260 announcement yesterday.

00:44:16.900 So significant.

00:44:18.480 And being out in California

00:44:19.720 is this weird combination

00:44:21.440 of Maha, once liberal,

00:44:25.420 love RFK Jr., have really

00:44:27.780 gravitated towards him and

00:44:29.580 kind of clung on to him

00:44:30.700 because he's, you know,

00:44:31.600 he's coming out here from

00:44:32.740 Santa Monica Mountains from

00:44:33.940 California.

00:44:34.640 And really, I think it's been

00:44:36.740 interesting because the Maha

00:44:38.420 moms are incredibly excited

00:44:40.960 and also these moderate

00:44:42.860 semi-liberal moms out of

00:44:44.500 California who are anti-vax

00:44:46.780 and pro a reversal of the

00:44:49.240 food pyramid and getting rid

00:44:50.780 of all of these food dyes.

00:44:52.300 I think there is this weird

00:44:53.980 excitement that President

00:44:55.320 Trump is actually delivering

00:44:56.860 on what he said he would.

00:44:59.500 And to see it, though, I mean,

00:45:00.660 I think for me, it's something

00:45:01.980 I've known for many years,

00:45:03.580 and I'm sure you have, too.

00:45:04.720 And for my kids, I apply the

00:45:06.360 same logic that that that

00:45:08.480 vaccine schedule was was

00:45:11.060 actually really scary to look

00:45:14.020 at how many vaccines these

00:45:16.120 kids were getting from birth

00:45:17.220 and unnecessarily so.

00:45:19.020 And I'll speak very

00:45:19.680 personally.

00:45:20.580 My third born son had a

00:45:22.220 reaction to the Hib vaccine,

00:45:24.640 which was the is the

00:45:25.440 bacterial meningitis, which

00:45:27.460 they rescinded.

00:45:29.240 RFK Jr. did rescind.

00:45:30.880 And I was really happy to see

00:45:32.080 that because I, for one,

00:45:34.500 witnessed this.

00:45:35.760 And just that RFK Jr.

00:45:37.940 and President Trump is

00:45:39.560 empowering him to do so,

00:45:40.900 that they're willing to

00:45:41.880 question Big Pharma and say

00:45:44.000 maybe this schedule is not

00:45:46.120 good for the United States

00:45:47.380 and the children of the U.S.

00:45:48.600 So we do even have some

00:45:50.500 liberal moms out here in

00:45:52.020 California celebrating this

00:45:54.220 historic change to our food

00:45:56.380 pyramid and vaccine schedule.

00:45:58.820 Are we going to make an

00:45:59.900 interesting run of it for

00:46:00.820 Republican in the

00:46:02.320 governor's race?

00:46:03.040 Our buddy Steve Hilton.

00:46:04.120 I know, you know, Steve,

00:46:05.020 he's on the show.

00:46:05.840 He says he's going to get at

00:46:07.140 least Gavin Newsom on that

00:46:08.200 debate stage and make a fool

00:46:09.580 of him.

00:46:09.940 What do you think?

00:46:11.520 Well, I'm sorry, not Newsom.

00:46:13.940 Sorry, not Newsom.

00:46:14.780 Whoever the guy, it's going to

00:46:15.660 be Katie Porter or somebody

00:46:17.220 else.

00:46:17.680 You know what I mean?

00:46:19.020 Well, man, that would be fun

00:46:20.240 if it was Katie Porter, as we

00:46:21.720 all witnessed.

00:46:22.360 But I think what we're starting

00:46:23.740 to see is Eric Swalwell slash

00:46:25.680 Fong Fong.

00:46:26.240 No, I'm just kidding.

00:46:26.800 Eric Swalwell and maybe

00:46:28.780 and maybe Steve Hilton.

00:46:31.200 But for sure, Steve Hilton is

00:46:32.880 working around the clock.

00:46:34.860 I was with him in the Palisades

00:46:36.380 and right after he said, I have to

00:46:38.320 go to this other event and

00:46:39.460 this other event.

00:46:40.440 And you can tell that he's so

00:46:42.300 interested in looking for

00:46:43.940 solutions for Californians.

00:46:45.960 And that's such a breath of

00:46:47.280 fresh air because I have not

00:46:48.560 seen anyone except maybe

00:46:50.660 outside of President Trump

00:46:51.960 on a national level, but on a

00:46:53.800 local level, trying to find any

00:46:55.760 talent, any leadership that says

00:46:57.560 there's a problem and I want to

00:46:59.200 fix it.

00:47:00.000 Steve Hilton is out there doing

00:47:01.440 that.

00:47:01.800 That man, I think he's in

00:47:03.100 Sacramento and L.A.

00:47:04.440 all in the same day.

00:47:05.740 I've never seen anyone around

00:47:07.380 the clock work so hard for

00:47:08.980 California and he's not even

00:47:10.380 elected yet.

00:47:12.760 Amazing.

00:47:13.720 Katie Zachariah, everybody.

00:47:15.300 Katie, where should they go

00:47:16.640 follow you on social and see

00:47:18.540 more?

00:47:18.840 I know you're on Fox or on

00:47:19.800 NewsVac, you're everywhere

00:47:20.480 these days.

00:47:22.540 Katie Zachariah on X and

00:47:24.420 Instagram.

00:47:25.280 And I think I should probably

00:47:26.380 make a Facebook page here, but

00:47:28.220 those are that's it for now.

00:47:30.520 Awesome.

00:47:31.040 Katie, thank you so much.

00:47:31.960 We'll be talking to you more.

00:47:32.660 Appreciate it.

00:47:34.000 Thank you.

00:47:36.080 My iPhone has thousands of

00:47:37.620 pictures and video on it.

00:47:40.000 I hesitate to tell you how

00:47:40.940 many.

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00:47:42.480 But that's what happens when

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00:47:44.360 in the world.

00:47:45.740 That's a little speed.

00:47:46.660 And of course, Ginger Spice.

00:47:47.880 She's very cute, too, and very

00:47:48.940 fluffy.

00:47:49.580 But back in the day, if you

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00:47:55.080 Then you had photographs that

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00:49:21.500 A lot of you reacting to as we

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00:50:00.240 BB, David in New Mexico.

00:50:03.140 I don't think we've played

00:50:04.200 BB.

00:50:04.660 I know we played AA.

00:50:06.220 Let's hear BB.

00:50:07.220 Hey, boys.

00:50:07.800 This is David from New

00:50:09.220 Mexico.

00:50:10.200 Leave us alone.

00:50:11.380 Instead, let's take up a

00:50:12.600 collection and let's sell

00:50:14.320 Minnesota to Canada.

00:50:16.060 I think we should ask maybe

00:50:17.020 200 bucks.

00:50:19.620 Very funny.

00:50:20.420 I like that New Mexicans,

00:50:22.900 which I'm presuming is what

00:50:24.380 you are called if you live in

00:50:25.500 New Mexico, are deciding that

00:50:27.660 they are going to throw other

00:50:30.020 states under the bus.

00:50:31.880 By the way, my college roommate

00:50:34.480 is a orthopedic surgeon in

00:50:37.740 Albuquerque, New Mexico.

00:50:39.340 He has not weighed in yet on my

00:50:42.020 suggestion that we should just

00:50:43.520 give New Mexico back, but I've

00:50:44.720 abandoned that now having

00:50:46.240 recognized how much oil value

00:50:47.780 there is.

00:50:48.540 Podcast listener David in

00:50:50.080 Tampa, Florida used to live in

00:50:51.980 New Mexico, and he actually

00:50:53.960 he actually agrees with me.

00:50:55.640 Clay and Buck, this is David

00:50:57.160 in Tampa, Florida.

00:50:59.100 I'm a native of Albuquerque,

00:51:01.180 New Mexico.

00:51:02.500 Yes, please give it away because

00:51:04.700 they just keep voting Democrat

00:51:06.680 and that state has become a

00:51:09.260 hellhole.

00:51:10.420 So with the exception of the

00:51:12.080 food, I think the country might

00:51:14.140 be better off without New

00:51:15.240 Mexico.

00:51:15.600 Brandon in Wisconsin, lots of

00:51:19.020 good feedback.

00:51:19.800 DD, Brandon, what's he got for

00:51:21.220 us?

00:51:21.320 Great job as usual.

00:51:22.620 Brandon from Wisconsin here.

00:51:24.240 As far as selling a state, I

00:51:26.160 think Illinois would be the

00:51:27.320 no-brainer.

00:51:28.580 I mean, solely because deep

00:51:31.020 dish pizza is terrible and

00:51:32.300 everybody knows it.

00:51:34.080 Wow.

00:51:34.740 Wow.

00:51:35.160 Throwing heat at deep dish pizza.

00:51:37.420 Deep dish pizza is really good.

00:51:39.100 You know, Wisconsin there, he

00:51:40.860 just kind of went for a low blow.

00:51:42.440 You know, he just, he, Wisconsin

00:51:43.780 just decided that Illinois needed

00:51:45.960 to get some dust kicked in his

00:51:47.400 eyes.

00:51:47.980 I will say the Packers in Green

00:51:50.240 Bay and the Bears in Chicago, I

00:51:52.520 sound like Eddie Murphy on

00:51:54.500 coming to America.

00:51:56.420 They, there's a lot of discord

00:51:58.940 between Chicago and, and, and

00:52:02.520 Minnesota and, and Wisconsin.

00:52:04.060 Certainly the Brewers factor in

00:52:05.960 there too.

00:52:06.420 So he's just wrong on deep dish

00:52:08.300 pizza though.

00:52:08.820 I think it's amazing.

00:52:09.540 Uh, podcast listener, Jim, uh, he

00:52:12.600 has another idea of what we should

00:52:14.160 trade away.

00:52:15.160 Clay, the obvious answer is Puerto

00:52:17.060 Rico.

00:52:18.000 The Democrats have been saber

00:52:19.480 rattling forever now about making

00:52:21.740 it a state.

00:52:22.500 Fine.

00:52:23.080 Make it a state and then sell it

00:52:24.640 off.

00:52:25.500 Hell, just give it away.

00:52:26.700 You still kill two birds with one

00:52:28.120 stone.

00:52:29.060 This is going to stun people.

00:52:31.300 I may live in Puerto Rico someday.

00:52:33.820 I thought you were going to say

00:52:34.960 you, you, you're licensed to

00:52:36.180 practice law in Puerto Rico.

00:52:37.740 I'm not licensed in Puerto Rico.

00:52:39.580 I'm not, I'm licensed in the U

00:52:40.920 S Virgin islands.

00:52:42.260 Do you know, this is true.

00:52:44.000 Do you know that you can qualify

00:52:46.020 as a business in Puerto Rico?

00:52:48.160 Also in the U S Virgin islands

00:52:49.860 4% tax.

00:52:51.940 Yes.

00:52:52.720 You can qualify and pay 4% tax.

00:52:55.740 If you base your business there,

00:52:57.480 I know people who have done it.

00:52:59.100 Both of those places are beautiful.

00:53:01.060 My kids are too young right now.

00:53:02.960 I've got an 11 year old in seven.

00:53:05.180 I'm not, this is, this is a hundred

00:53:06.700 percent true in seven years.

00:53:08.860 You may sit down one day and all of a

00:53:11.160 sudden you're just going to be like,

00:53:12.220 wait, Clay Travis just lives in Puerto

00:53:13.860 Rico.

00:53:14.320 Clay Travis lives in the Virgin islands.

00:53:16.280 Why the hell am I going to give people

00:53:17.860 40% of my income for the rest of my

00:53:20.360 life?

00:53:20.980 I 4%.

00:53:22.420 It is an incredible opportunity there.

00:53:25.100 So I would not do it so they can sell

00:53:27.660 their business at that.

00:53:29.560 And when they, when they have the

00:53:30.740 transaction of selling a business that

00:53:32.340 they've built, they'll move to Porter.

00:53:34.060 I actually know a lawyer who specialized

00:53:35.480 in making sure, because if you have a

00:53:38.660 big ticket business that you're like,

00:53:39.960 yeah, I'll kick situation and you, and

00:53:42.000 you claim that you live in Puerto

00:53:43.240 Rico.

00:53:44.320 Oh, they're going to, they're going to

00:53:46.120 come after you.

00:53:46.880 Cause that's one of those moments where

00:53:48.440 it's really worth it for the tax

00:53:50.100 authorities.

00:53:50.540 So you got to make sure you are ironclad

00:53:53.460 with, he said that you have to really be

00:53:55.460 there for two years in order to claim that

00:53:58.940 you're, you're free and clear of that's, you

00:54:00.900 know, for the sale purpose of, uh, of getting

00:54:02.780 that 4% tax.

00:54:04.000 I look, I'm a licensed attorney in the U S

00:54:06.980 Virgin islands and have been since 2004.

00:54:10.220 I may start a new media company and it may

00:54:12.740 be based down in the Caribbean at some

00:54:14.460 point.

00:54:14.760 And I may get a 4% tax rate and people are

00:54:17.020 going to be angry and I'm going to be, can I

00:54:18.860 ask you something?

00:54:19.600 Cause we had that heat from the deep dish

00:54:21.280 pizza conversation a second ago here, which

00:54:24.460 you know, there is one, there was a really

00:54:26.000 good, one of the really, uh, Lou Malnati's

00:54:28.220 makes it gluten-free deep dish.

00:54:30.140 So I got to say that was delicious.

00:54:32.080 It was like 4,000 calories that I put away

00:54:34.620 in one sitting, but it was, it was delicious.

00:54:36.600 I can't throw shade at that.

00:54:39.040 What is, we haven't upset enough people about

00:54:41.660 their like regional living or state or

00:54:43.540 anything else today.

00:54:44.120 So I feel like we can keep going.

00:54:45.660 Let's upset some more people.

00:54:47.340 What is the food that a place is known for

00:54:51.640 that you think is the most overrated?

00:54:57.600 This is a tough one.

00:54:58.820 Well, I've got an answer.

00:54:59.520 I'm going to throw, I've got an answer

00:55:00.700 for you.

00:55:00.960 It's not necessarily the United States.

00:55:02.300 It's England fishing.

00:55:04.240 No, no, no, I'm throwing England.

00:55:06.340 I'm throwing England.

00:55:07.380 That's a dodge.

00:55:08.900 The criticism I have of England is your, uh,

00:55:13.380 your national culinary delicacy is basically

00:55:17.660 Captain D's.

00:55:18.860 It's like breaded fish and, uh, and it's

00:55:22.140 French fries.

00:55:23.000 Like that's all that we can't go foreign

00:55:25.460 countries on this clay.

00:55:26.400 I want you to upset a region of America, a

00:55:29.740 city, perhaps even, uh, you have an answer.

00:55:32.380 What is your answer?

00:55:33.380 You, you know, something that's awful.

00:55:35.160 Yeah.

00:55:35.400 Oh, Philadelphia cheesesteak is the most

00:55:37.780 disappointing.

00:55:38.220 I like the cheese.

00:55:38.920 Most, I think it's really good.

00:55:40.400 Pat's and Gino's, those places.

00:55:41.740 I went to both when I was in Philly.

00:55:43.940 The, the steak is trash.

00:55:45.480 It's not good.

00:55:46.380 I do not like these things.

00:55:47.540 Oh, I like a Philly cheesesteak.

00:55:48.760 I think that's really good.

00:55:50.160 No, a Philly cheesesteak can be good, but the

00:55:53.160 version of the Philly cheesesteak you tend to

00:55:55.240 get in Philadelphia, not good.

00:55:57.740 Oh, I know.

00:55:58.400 People can get mad at me.

00:55:59.300 I'm just, I'm speaking the truth and

00:56:00.900 everybody, the cheese whiz, that stuff is

00:56:03.400 disgusting.

00:56:04.220 It's going to be like fake cheese for

00:56:06.360 another hundred years on the shelf.

00:56:08.080 It's gross.

00:56:09.040 Our boss, Julie Talbot's going to be on me.

00:56:10.980 This is, I probably know more about

00:56:12.760 alcohol than I do food because I'm not

00:56:14.680 exactly a culinary artist.

00:56:17.520 I'm going to come back to it again.

00:56:19.420 The mint julep.

00:56:20.660 No, you're just going to get us so much

00:56:22.260 hate over this one.

00:56:22.880 I like the mint julep.

00:56:24.500 I'm not with you on this.

00:56:25.500 You're, you're alone on this one.

00:56:26.680 Look, I like it.

00:56:28.380 I, I, I, I, I like alcohol.

00:56:30.940 I'm not going to sit around and say, oh, you

00:56:32.540 know, and the more mint juleps you

00:56:34.140 drink, the better they are.

00:56:35.720 And Michael's going to be upset.

00:56:37.280 Julie's husband, because the first thing

00:56:38.840 I did when we got to the Kentucky Derby,

00:56:40.420 he had a mint julep for me.

00:56:42.020 What is the most disgusting hard liquor?

00:56:44.000 What is the most disgusting type of hard

00:56:46.260 liquor?

00:56:47.460 This is an easy answer.

00:56:48.440 You should be able to hit this right

00:56:49.360 away.

00:56:49.780 Jägermeister.

00:56:50.760 Jägermeister.

00:56:51.540 Yeah.

00:56:51.900 A hundred percent.

00:56:53.180 We didn't clear this in advance.

00:56:55.000 I would rather, I would rather drink like

00:56:57.120 NyQuil in excess than drink Jägermeister.

00:56:59.980 It's disgusting.

00:57:00.580 Do you remember when Jäger bombs were

00:57:02.180 super popular?

00:57:03.260 Oh, of course.

00:57:04.020 You were out on the, you were on the

00:57:05.540 dating circuit in a big way with the

00:57:07.640 Jäger bomb era.

00:57:08.640 Well, I do, I do a lot of Jäger bombs on

00:57:10.540 dates, Clay.

00:57:11.620 I don't know what you think it was like

00:57:13.540 for young buck on the dating scene.

00:57:14.780 I want to get as, I want to get as many

00:57:16.520 Jäger bombs in as possible.

00:57:17.960 Make the date as enjoyable as possible.

00:57:20.460 Oh, I mean, Jäger bombs were the, I think

00:57:22.440 Jäger bomb is probably the worst for

00:57:24.860 people who don't know.

00:57:25.820 Uh, that was not a complicated mix.

00:57:28.140 It was just Jäger, which is even makes

00:57:31.320 me cringe to think about it.

00:57:32.820 And Red Bull, like you just, I mean,

00:57:35.820 Red Bull, by the way, not very good by

00:57:37.880 itself anyway.

00:57:39.080 I don't think Red Bull is going to be

00:57:40.560 signing up to sponsor.

00:57:42.060 Here is the most underrated drink.

00:57:44.100 And I promise that I have a functional

00:57:45.920 penis.

00:57:46.380 I'm going to tell you two drinks that

00:57:48.060 are underrated that, uh, but I promise

00:57:50.700 that I'm a heterosexual man.

00:57:51.940 Um, one is the espresso martini, the

00:57:55.900 espresso martini has surged in popularity

00:57:58.460 of late.

00:57:59.140 You got a great coffee mix with liquor,

00:58:01.740 get a little bit more of a energy.

00:58:04.180 If you're out late, espresso martini,

00:58:06.220 very good order.

00:58:07.360 The other one, and I get made fun of

00:58:09.480 this by my wife, uh, all the time.

00:58:12.400 Uh, the other one sangria.

00:58:14.560 I think sangria is the most consistently

00:58:17.840 underrated, like nice uplifting drink

00:58:21.520 that is out there.

00:58:23.160 Now look, my go-to order to protect

00:58:25.980 myself is an old fashioned.

00:58:27.880 Uh, I go old fashioned.

00:58:29.260 That is my go-to drink.

00:58:30.440 That is a very masculine drink, but

00:58:31.960 the two most underrated drinks at the

00:58:33.620 bar right now, sangria and espresso

00:58:35.940 martini.

00:58:36.860 Some, I actually can't throw, I can't

00:58:38.540 throw shade at either one of them.

00:58:39.720 I was hoping you were going to say

00:58:40.620 Cosmo and then we were just going to

00:58:41.860 open up the lines for the rest of the

00:58:43.120 show to have all the guys calling to

00:58:44.460 make fun of you for that.

00:58:45.440 Like all of our truckers, we're just

00:58:46.880 going to line up truck to truck and

00:58:48.760 just call in.

00:58:49.400 But I, I espresso martini is actually

00:58:51.660 delicious.

00:58:52.040 I can't, I can't lie.

00:58:53.360 It's surged in like the last three or

00:58:55.400 four years.

00:58:56.140 You know, Laura, who likes to argue

00:58:57.680 with me, my wife was saying, Oh,

00:58:59.760 there's not actual coffee and espresso

00:59:01.840 martinis.

00:59:02.400 I was like, no, yes.

00:59:03.440 It's not just a coffee flavor.

00:59:05.040 And I was proven correct on this.

00:59:07.240 I got to tell you, my wife bought as

00:59:09.660 part of a Christmas gift to

00:59:10.960 ourselves.

00:59:12.040 I, we, we have, you know, obviously I

00:59:13.940 use the Crockett coffee beans, but we

00:59:15.420 don't have a Crockett coffee, uh, maker

00:59:17.800 yet.

00:59:18.320 So I had to buy one of these like

00:59:19.880 fancy pants, uh, grind machines.

00:59:23.060 Yeah.

00:59:23.360 The amount of, I, I, I swear, I feel

00:59:25.380 like I am, uh, I don't know if I'm

00:59:27.140 like a rocket scientist or a chemical

00:59:29.280 engineer or something.

00:59:30.620 The amount of things that I have to

00:59:32.240 do to keep this machine running so I

00:59:33.880 can drink my Crockett coffee in the

00:59:35.260 morning, the amount of like, you know,

00:59:37.700 cleanings and, and rinsings and this

00:59:40.660 and that.

00:59:41.220 And I got to do all these things all

00:59:42.540 the time.

00:59:43.000 I'm, I feel like I work for my

00:59:44.560 coffee machine.

00:59:45.440 Like it's my employer now in the

00:59:47.320 morning and I have to do whatever I

00:59:49.020 need to, to make it.

00:59:49.780 You don't, you don't have one.

00:59:50.580 You, we got like, it's, it's an all

00:59:52.660 it can make you like the fanciest

00:59:54.160 foamiest delicious coffee.

00:59:55.500 I go straight with the, uh, the

00:59:57.540 Keurig already basically ready

00:59:59.720 Crockett coffee, boom, put it in.

01:00:01.860 And then like, I just drink it out of

01:00:03.500 my best dad ever mug here with, uh,

01:00:06.200 with coffee.

01:00:07.340 That's very, that's very, that's

01:00:08.380 very solid.

01:00:08.900 I wonder if I'm going to get lit

01:00:10.120 up on the cheesesteak thing.

01:00:11.200 It's not that a cheesesteak cannot

01:00:12.520 be good.

01:00:13.340 If you were to have high quality

01:00:14.960 steak and fresh, you know, an

01:00:16.640 actual onions and peppers that were

01:00:18.420 sliced up and everything else, but

01:00:19.820 the cheesesteak places that I've

01:00:21.420 been to in Philly, I think that's

01:00:23.500 and Gino's were both good.

01:00:24.780 Now I don't love the fact that you

01:00:25.960 have to stand in line and you get

01:00:27.280 like 20 seconds to get your order

01:00:29.040 and you have to immediately take it

01:00:30.440 out.

01:00:30.660 Like, I think I agree with you that

01:00:32.220 there are probably places where you

01:00:33.480 could sit and have a cheesesteak

01:00:34.960 that is better.

01:00:36.180 Uh, like the whiz stuff, the cheese

01:00:38.240 whiz they put on it is just gross.

01:00:40.500 Why use real cheese?

01:00:42.180 Well, what are, this isn't, we're

01:00:43.060 not in wartime.

01:00:44.020 We're not rationing cheese here.

01:00:45.560 I don't need government cheese.

01:00:47.040 Give me real cheese.

01:00:48.380 I, this is the thing.

01:00:49.500 Like, I think, for example, Boston

01:00:51.240 chowder, I think all chowders are a

01:00:53.900 little underrated, to be honest

01:00:54.860 with you.

01:00:55.260 A good chowder is amazing.

01:00:56.660 Like a good chowder.

01:00:57.860 I don't, I don't disagree on

01:00:59.220 that.

01:00:59.360 I don't disagree on that.

01:00:59.760 I said nice things about Puerto

01:01:01.480 Rico earlier.

01:01:02.340 I have no idea how many people

01:01:03.460 listen to the show in Puerto

01:01:04.720 Rico or spent substantial times in

01:01:07.400 Puerto Rico.

01:01:08.520 Mofongo is like the, the, the food

01:01:11.080 of Puerto Rico.

01:01:12.820 Is it?

01:01:13.660 It's not good.

01:01:15.020 Mofongo.

01:01:15.460 I don't even know.

01:01:15.920 I don't even know.

01:01:16.760 I don't know.

01:01:17.460 Maybe culturally insensitive of me.

01:01:19.280 I tried it.

01:01:19.940 People are like, oh, you're going to

01:01:20.820 love Mofongo.

01:01:21.700 Mofongo.

01:01:22.260 It's like, no, it's not good.

01:01:23.380 Rhodey's.

01:01:24.120 I lived in the U.S.

01:01:24.920 Virgin Islands.

01:01:25.920 Rhodey's not good.

01:01:27.240 Like, I'll throw them under the

01:01:28.480 bus too.

01:01:29.380 Like, like, look, there are things

01:01:32.400 that you have that are unique to a

01:01:34.520 particular area that are amazing.

01:01:36.080 Like you're wrong on cobbler, for

01:01:38.060 instance, which is a fabulous

01:01:39.460 dessert smashed up pie.

01:01:41.280 It's pie for people that made a

01:01:42.320 mistake and don't want to admit it,

01:01:43.560 which is fine.

01:01:44.320 I get it.

01:01:44.700 We all make mistakes.

01:01:45.600 Cobbler people.

01:01:46.400 But just admit that you messed up

01:01:48.160 your pie and now you're going with

01:01:49.740 plan B.

01:01:50.440 That's all I'm trying to tell you.

01:01:51.780 It's fine.

01:01:52.720 I was in Wisconsin, Wisconsin,

01:01:54.480 and it's cheese delicious.

01:01:56.080 It's hard to go wrong.

01:01:57.260 Although you were just taking a

01:01:58.720 shot at cheese whiz.

01:02:00.020 Well, that's because it's not

01:02:01.000 really cheese.

01:02:01.740 Right.

01:02:02.040 But you go around the various

01:02:03.180 regional cuisines.

01:02:04.340 I always think it's funny to people

01:02:05.780 in California and people in Texas

01:02:07.560 are like, you can't get tacos like

01:02:09.060 this in New York.

01:02:09.740 We can get we can get good tacos.

01:02:11.880 All right.

01:02:12.160 You guys have good tacos.

01:02:13.420 I'm not knocking them.

01:02:14.140 But like, there's a lot of places

01:02:15.120 with good tacos.

01:02:17.160 Hot chicken in Nashville is really

01:02:18.620 good.

01:02:19.460 Kind of taken off in the last 10 or

01:02:21.140 15 years.

01:02:21.880 That's a good choice.

01:02:23.120 This is the time of the Clay and

01:02:24.220 Buck show when it's clear we never

01:02:25.360 actually get to eat lunch.

01:02:26.260 We get hungry.

01:02:27.000 So we're just sitting here talking

01:02:27.960 about I'm serious.

01:02:28.940 We're going to fix the country.

01:02:30.520 I was sitting around like I can't

01:02:32.360 believe you're insulting the Philly

01:02:33.720 cheesesteak.

01:02:34.480 That would be just I want you guys

01:02:35.720 to know this is the kind of co-host

01:02:37.260 is the kind of loyalty I have to my

01:02:39.000 esteemed coast.

01:02:40.040 Mr. Clay is that he's getting all

01:02:41.760 this incoming.

01:02:43.160 You know, they're about to blow him

01:02:44.640 up like Los Alamos back in the day

01:02:46.480 here over his New Mexico

01:02:48.300 takedown.

01:02:50.900 So I'm now just throwing myself in

01:02:52.580 front of the bus in Philadelphia and

01:02:54.480 everybody who loves the Rocky movies

01:02:55.900 is like ready to kick my ass over

01:02:57.280 cheesesteak.

01:02:57.780 So it happens.

01:02:59.800 Is this me where I'm supposed to

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