The All-Star Game is getting closer and closer to being played, and the question of the day is: Was Trump correct or was he wrong all along about the inflationary impact of the Trump administration's trade tariffs? Today's episode of the Clay Travis Buck Show with host Clay Travis ( ) and co-host, Buck Sexton ( ) discuss whether or not Trump was correct all along.
00:25:38.720And he does this thing, too, of, you know, reaching across to the other side.
00:25:43.040He never actually reaches across to the other side.
00:25:45.620One of the big things that was bizarre to me was was people said when he did that when he did that, that other podcast, not Sean shows, Charlie show.
00:25:53.300And he said the thing about trans and how he know he didn't agree that trans athletes shouldn't compete against against transgender, you know, against women.
00:26:21.460And that's just a moral relativism that you're going to see a lot of, I think, as the Democrats try to shore up their support by pretending to be something other than that, which they are, which is always the game.
00:26:39.480If you if you were to line up for this is a perfect example of this.
00:26:44.100If you lined up what Joe Biden said and was promising in the six months before Election Day in 2020, I know it's COVID and everything else, but, you know, healing, bringing the country together, steady, stable hand, all this stuff.
00:26:57.480And then the truly left wing lunacy that Biden was actually the biggest open border in our history, you know, the trillions of dollars of completely unnecessary spending, the trans policy stuff, the mask mandates, the or, you know, the vaccine mandates.
00:27:13.620And you look up Trump ran and said, I'm going to do these things.
00:28:16.540It's such a great thing to do with the family.
00:28:18.960If you've got a birthday coming up, anyone in your family does.
00:28:21.740Or you just want to have a fun activity in the summertime, especially if you want to stay indoors for a little bit or at night, you're going to stay out of the heat.
00:28:27.620Legacy Box, you bring all your stuff together.
00:28:29.400You know, you have fun putting it in the box, too.
00:31:16.620It's like being a tenured professor and making $30 million a year to show up and teach your once-a-week class.
00:31:23.880A class that nobody should be paying attention to.
00:31:26.360A class that nobody should want to see.
00:31:28.020But nonetheless, they're paying her that.
00:31:30.720Here she is figuring out, she says, what to call these Trump-holding facilities for illegals.
00:31:37.640In terms of this facility, you used the term internment camp.
00:31:41.480And I saw your colleague, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, use that same phrase.
00:31:44.340Obviously, that's very evocative language with history in this country that is difficult for a lot of people.
00:31:52.220Talk about why you think that term is appropriate.
00:31:55.120I've been struggling with that myself just as a broadcaster in terms of how to talk about these things.
00:32:00.000I mean, in technical terms, if you've got a facility that's holding people indefinitely and there's no legal process to get in there and there's no legal process to get out,
00:32:10.440that is traditionally called a concentration camp or an internment camp.
00:32:14.720An internment camp or a concentration camp, Clay?
00:32:39.600And partly that's a function of how his desires and his goals were covered by the media.
00:32:47.400I don't think there's any way to sugarcoat that.
00:32:49.980But over time, I believe Trump has convinced the vast majority of Americans that we can't have 20 million plus illegals.
00:32:57.500And the reason I use 20 million as the number is because that's the number Tom Holman told me a few months ago he believes are illegally in the country.
00:33:05.220Now, I would imagine that number is beginning to decline slowly.
00:33:10.060But what you're seeing is this is the root cause of a huge amount of the problems that we have in this country.
00:33:18.460Whether it's, and I know a lot of you have experienced this,
00:33:21.700the number of illegal immigrant children that are being educated in American schools.
00:33:26.360Whether it is the number of illegal immigrant criminals who are committing violent acts in this country.
00:33:32.340Whether it is the number of illegal immigrants who are taking jobs that otherwise Americans would not take.
00:33:37.260You know what I've started to see vanish, Buck?
00:33:40.120Is the argument of, oh, these are jobs that Americans won't do.
00:33:45.520That is such an arrogant argument to me.
00:33:48.380Because the entire basis of commerce is if you pay people enough to do a job, eventually they will do it.
00:33:57.760And what was it, the meatpacking facility that got raided in Nebraska, if I'm not mistaken?
00:34:05.460They had to go back and rehire, and they were flooded with applicants who were interested in those jobs.
00:34:12.440And so I just look at it as, yes, it may be sometimes easier, and certainly it's cheaper, to go with illegal immigrants as workers.
00:34:22.400But if you eliminate that opportunity and force business to have to pay American citizens to do the jobs,
00:34:30.320costs don't go up that much, and the end result is actually much more of a positive in this country.
00:34:38.080By the way, number one way, I know in New York City, Mom Donnie's game plan here,
00:34:44.240he ran to a large extent on things cost too much, in particular rent.
00:34:49.300What would rent be in New York City if we eliminated a million-some-odd illegals from the rental markets?
00:34:56.180Basic economics would suggest that the cost of living for rent would go down for all American citizens in New York City, for instance.
00:35:05.580I'll tell you this, the hotels, this is a perfect microcosm to macrocosm example of this.
00:35:13.660Hotels in New York City, in the era of putting all these migrants, these illegals, in New York City hotels,
00:35:24.400the highest prices you've ever seen in the history of New York.
00:35:27.160Yes, it's crazy what it costs to stay in a New York City hotel right now.
00:35:30.700I mean, some of you are going to choke on your crock of coffee when I tell you this,
00:35:36.140but you can spend $500 a night during the week off-season in a New York City hotel that's, you know, nice.
00:37:21.760And one of the things in a lot of these buildings, and it's true in a lot of cities, right?
00:37:25.720It's true of, like, your community association.
00:37:28.020You agree to certain rules, and the rules are for the benefit of everybody.
00:37:30.780If someone is using their, you know, one-bedroom apartment as, like, an SRO, a single-room occupancy hotel, which used to have a very bad rap from the bad days of New York City when they were, like, drug dens and stuff like that, that causes problems to the rest of the tenants on the floor.
00:37:47.600Or, I know, I have a friend, I know somebody, who in New York, his building went back and found all of the postings for Airbnb and everything and sued him for all of it and won.
00:38:01.060So, they take this stuff very seriously.
00:38:03.840I am, I do think it's an, I'm going to sound like Gavin Newsom now, I do think it's a real debate that should be had because I totally understand the idea.
00:38:14.420And, evidently, it's become a huge issue in many different primary tourist locations around the country.
00:38:21.300No one wants to live full-time next to a house that is being rented out on Airbnb.
00:38:26.480In the case of New York, I'm really actually just pro a building or a community can say you can't do this and can drop the hammer if you do it.
00:38:34.820I actually, I think in the city of New York, they've just decided that unless it's a 30-day, unless it's a 30-day rental, it's a regulation.
00:38:43.140That, I'm a little more aligned, I think, with how you see it, too.
00:38:47.220But, I absolutely believe if you move into a building and you sign things that say that this is your primary home and you're not renting it out, you can't rent it out because it's, you know, you've agreed to a contract on entry into that community.
00:39:00.620Look, we just, Clay, well, I'm now a homeowner for the first time, but some of you are going to laugh.
00:39:05.620The stuff you've got to do, some of you have lawns.
00:39:18.360The Homeowners Association in America, there's many people out there listening right now that are ready to pull their hair out over whatever disputes are going on there.
00:39:25.980I do think, though, whatever you think about the Airbnb regulations in New York City and the fact that illegals have filled up a lot of the hotel rooms.
00:39:33.180It's about 20%, so you can just take a rough figure would be hotels are all about 20% more expensive than they would otherwise be.
00:39:40.240I think it gives you a real good examination of basic market economics, right?
00:39:46.220If you eliminated illegal immigrants from the housing market in New York City and only people who were legally in the United States or, yes, look, on temporary visas, like all those things, right?
00:39:57.060The cost for the average property, I believe, in New York City would plummet tremendously.
00:40:01.340And I think it's true in many different parts of America where housing costs have become prohibitive.
00:40:07.980And it doesn't take a big city for that reality to be.
00:40:20.000If we took the 20 million illegals out, that is 20 million new properties, residences, apartments, places to live that would be in the marketplace, which wouldn't have as much demand, which would lower the overall cost, I would think, substantially across the board.
00:40:37.420It was one of the more brilliant policies, and look, Governor Abbott of Texas does not, I think, get as much credit as he should for this, or people don't think about him enough in this regard, taking illegals and saying, you know what, let's send you right to a sanctuary jurisdiction.
00:40:51.640They say they want you, we're just helping out, because in the context of New York, it's a big enough city that had enough of a concentration of these illegals that you could really see the economic impact.
00:41:05.220You could really see, when they were telling, you know, middle-class neighborhoods of Queens, we're shutting down your local high school, you know, soccer fields or whatever, so we can house these illegals.
00:41:16.560You can really see that 30% of emergency room visits were from these migrants who were getting just all of their health care in emergency rooms.
00:41:24.760Like, you can see this reality and realize, hold on a second, if that's from 100,000 people in New York City, or 150,000, whatever the number ended up being, what does 20 million do nationwide?
00:41:35.220Ah, and, you know, I gotta, look, there's a congresswoman down here, Salazar, I saw her, and, you know, she represents a heavily Latino, South Florida constituency, and I love my South Florida, Venezuelan, and Cuban Americans, they're fantastic people, but illegals gotta go, and she's playing this whole game of, oh, but we need dignity for people, not amnesty, but dignity.
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00:47:19.120Welcome back in, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
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00:48:32.700You may not even really remember this because I think it was early in when we were starting the show.
00:48:38.240It might have even been right before we started the show.
00:48:40.700Major League Baseball pulled the All-Star game out of Atlanta.
00:48:43.420We talked about this yesterday with Governor Brian Kemp because they said that Stacey Abrams and Joe Biden were right and that Jim Crow 2.0, actually Jim Eagle, was what it was described as, was necessary.
00:48:58.580And they were not allowing minorities to vote.
00:49:01.060And it's been proven to be 100% not true because the number of voters grew in 2022 and the number of voters grew in 2024.
00:49:09.420And all the state of Georgia did was strengthen the overall election.
00:49:12.880So, a reporter decided that she was going to ask a question of the straight sports event that was going on yesterday, the All-Star game preview.
00:49:30.580But I want to play this for all of you.
00:49:33.860This was a mask-wearing reporter, to this day, far left-wing reporter covering sports, someone named Jen Ramos-Eisen, writes for a website called Defector.
00:49:50.280And this person decided that they were going to take over an All-Star game press conference with this question.
00:50:15.780And it needs to be something talked about on an ongoing basis and being relentless with it.
00:50:21.380What happened to being relentless with our voices?
00:50:23.540And why are we in Atlanta when this law is still on the books and it is a dangerous situation to be a journalist in Atlanta because Atlanta has detained the most journalists by ice?
00:50:33.620Respect and appreciate the way you feel about it.
00:50:37.160And I would assume that there was a reason or some conversation that was had by the MLB and the state that all parties thought that this would be a wonderful host city for the All-Star game.
00:50:46.300And I think everybody is all very excited to be back in the beautiful city of Atlanta.
00:50:58.120Can you believe that is an All-Star press conference, Buck?
00:51:02.080All-Star game for Major League Baseball.
00:51:04.280And this crazy left winger says, how are we here when ice is arresting journalists?
00:51:09.660And how in the world can you play a game here when basically this Jim Crow law, which has been proven to be a lie, it has not decreased voting.
00:51:21.600Actually, voting has increased substantially.
00:51:24.020I know I have blown your mind several times about sports media and how left wing they are.
00:51:29.760Can you believe that was the second question at the Major League Baseball All-Star game event yesterday?
00:52:10.980So this is not, some people out there are saying, hey, and I'm one of them, Major League Baseball should have to issue a public apology to the state of Georgia,
00:52:19.540to the city of Atlanta, Braves fans, for pulling the game out under false pretenses, right?
00:52:25.260They were wrong and they've never acknowledged it.
00:52:32.760And oh, by the way, how can you even come here when journalists are being arrested by ICE?
00:52:37.660Well, imagine if you, imagine if you banned Atlanta from holding sporting events and then open yourself up to the fact that Atlanta is a, as a city, I believe is about 50% black.
00:52:49.860So you're actually harming black people here when you don't have big events in the city.
00:52:54.020So the theory among the left or among some of these, this journalist or whatever, this must be an idea that's out there, is let's punish a great American city that is also majority black.
00:53:09.920And, but we will punish the city because it is, the state of Georgia is racist?
00:54:25.780Let's laugh about them and like them more to now this Defector site, which is a spinoff of Deadspin to we're going to send an employee in a mask because she's worried about COVID, I guess, to grill Major League Baseball about.
00:54:40.000I mean, I, there are so many people whose brains have been broken that this could be allowed to have occurred is actually, it's a fascinating story to kind of look at the way they took over the culture of sport through sports media members who are far more left wing than the average fan and allowed those sports media members to terrorize.
00:55:02.000So many people from speaking out that we really got to the point where dudes are winning women's championships.
00:55:07.760I, I, I don't think it's coincidental that they tried to take over the culture and they're still trying.
00:55:11.560I mean, look, just to be clear, I'm, I, I also could tell stories here.
00:55:16.080Do you know that the Huffington Post, because the media landscape was very different.
00:55:19.860You were saying Deadspin was different when you were there, right?
00:55:21.960You know that HuffPost Live used to invite me on?
00:55:28.000HuffPost Live, as a conservative, it happened a couple of times, because they thought I, they were like, they're like, well, you're, you may be a conservative, but you're smart.
00:55:35.420That was always the backhanded thing they would say to me, like the different hosts that would have me on.
00:55:39.400And I was like, well, a lot of us are smart.
00:55:41.260I think we're smarter than you guys are.
00:56:52.980When you let any leftist into an entity, as I always say, it is like in nature an invasive species.
00:56:59.620They will not just multiply, they will multiply and intentionally block out those who are not leftists, right?
00:57:08.380So the problem with the European house sparrow, fun fact for all of you, is that the European house sparrow not only is very hardy as a species,
00:57:18.860but also will destroy the eggs and the nests of other birds.
00:57:23.200So that it will out-compete them in the area.
00:57:25.920If you let a leftist into your media organization, or you let enough leftists get a toehold, they will take it over.
00:57:40.000And this is something I've been thinking about a lot, because to your point, the culture used to not be like this.
00:57:45.880And I'm hoping that we're going to come out of it and return.
00:57:48.440But I think the only way we can do that is by ridiculing stories like these and making it so clear where, look,
00:57:56.560if this person wants to share her opinion, then write her opinion.
00:58:01.200But what she's trying to do is launder her opinion through more famous people and hold their feet to the fire and make them attach to her opinion, right?
00:58:12.960My opinion, and I'm speaking as if I was this crazy chick,
00:58:15.780my opinion is that Atlanta should never be able to host the All-Star Game because they passed this voting bill
00:58:20.980and also because journalists aren't safe because ICE is going to arrest them.
00:58:34.220It's agenda journalism, and I think people see it now.
00:58:37.020But this has been building for a decade or more.
00:58:40.200And the goal, I think, is quite clear.
00:58:42.660It's to try to take over big parts of culture and mold them in your direction as opposed to just let people be normal.
00:58:50.220So I wanted to play that for you because I heard it, and even I was like, oh, the second question at the Major League Baseball All-Star Game?
00:58:55.740But you also ask yourself, what does this person even want?
00:58:58.980So this is what I meant by you're going to punish Atlanta?
00:59:01.780No, the tangible result of what her position would be would be that a majority black city is not able to host a big sporting event.
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