Kamala Harris announces she will not run for governor in 2020, and Clay Perla tries to explain why he thinks she will run in 2028. Plus, a breakdown of why he doesn t think Kamala will run for president in 2020.
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00:19:42.000Some new data has come out on the New York City mayor's race.
00:19:48.240And if anyone's wondering, why should you care?
00:19:50.220You live in the Midwest or the South or the West Coast or the Sun Belt or the Ohio River Valley or wherever.
00:19:58.560Well, because this is going to be, I think, a test case for the Democrat Party nationwide.
00:20:05.000Can they win in the biggest city in America with really the furthest left wing candidate that we've seen at this level, at least, of a mayor's race in New York for a very long time?
00:20:18.540This guy is more radical than de Blasio, certainly more left wing than Mayor Eric Adams.
00:20:25.380And this is a moment in time where the Democrats are going to have to start to choose.
00:20:30.860Remember, it was sly of Biden during the whole BLM anti-cop mess in 2020.
00:20:42.820He had been in the game long enough to know that was going to be a big problem for him in the general election if he did it, which he didn't do.
00:20:51.520So whenever people talk about the Democrats defund police, that that became a, oh, it's AOC and it's it's the the squad.
00:21:00.820And it was not associated with Biden specifically, even though Kamala Harris, I know, you know, wanted to put out a tweet about the raising money for people in Minneapolis or something or the bail fund.
00:21:14.820Kamala was more defund police by for sure than Joe Biden was.
00:21:20.940But mom, Donnie has got had to show up and speak in the aftermath of an NYPD officer, gave his life in line of duty, trying to defend innocent people in that building, that office building on on Park Avenue during that mass shooting a few days ago.
00:22:02.780Over the course of this race, I've been very clear about my view of public safety and the critical role that police have in creating that.
00:22:12.440Public safety that officers are tasked with delivering while we ask them to respond to nearly every failure of the social safety net.
00:22:21.120And the vision that we've put forward in this campaign, despite what others may say, is not to defund the police.
00:22:26.800It is, in fact, to allow those officers to respond to these serious crimes that many of them signed up to address and to do so by ensuring that we ask them to focus on those crimes.
00:22:40.200And we ask mental health professionals to respond to calls of mental health crises.
00:22:48.080How many mental health professionals are they going to have on speed dial to deal with what the NYPD terms an EDP, emotionally disturbed person, a lunatic?
00:22:56.060Like, if you're running around the streets at 3 a.m. naked, barking like a dog.
00:23:01.160And this stuff, that stuff happens in New York, okay?
00:23:07.960They will eventually take you to a mental health facility.
00:23:12.800But even this idea that you're going to have mental health people respond, what does that even mean?
00:23:19.620All they're going to try to do is get somebody to that facility.
00:23:23.100And by the way, if they don't have cops there, they may be attacked, bludgeoned, stabbed.
00:23:29.200Does anyone want, like, a psychiatrist with the, you know, the tweed jacket with the elbow patches to show up when some maniac is waving a machete saying he wants to kill everybody?
00:23:39.540Like, what world does Mamdani and the people who support him, what world do they live in?
00:23:47.280And the scary thing, and look, this is the argument I made a couple of weeks ago on the show.
00:23:52.060I think at some point Democrats have to deal with the choices that they are going to make.
00:24:00.340It's almost like being a parent, and a lot of you out there know what I'm talking about.
00:24:05.480If your kid keeps making the wrong decisions, and you do your best to steer them away from it, you steer them away from it, you steer them away from it, sooner or later, experience becomes the best teacher where you do something that is moronic, and your parents or your grandparents told you not to do it.
00:24:24.100You do it, and then you're like, boy, that was really dumb, and part of parenting is trying to keep kids from doing things that are so stupid that they ruin their future life or, unfortunately, even lose it.
00:24:37.400And I feel like for Democrats, they have to wear it.
00:24:43.400They picked Mamdani, and I get it, people out there, WOR, many of you are listening in the Manhattan area, and you're looking around and you're saying, Clay, you're just going to throw us to the wolves?
00:25:08.500Why should all of us have to cobble together votes from Andrew Cuomo, who's awful, or Eric Adams, who's mediocre, or Curtis Sliwa, who's otherwise not going to be able to win,
00:25:19.860because the idiots of New York City are otherwise going to endorse a guy who was sharing videos and tweets saying, defund the police?
00:25:29.960I saw a new clip that he shared where it's like somebody, a police officer, was crying in a car, and he's celebrating it.
00:25:38.240I just, I find this guy to be utterly false in a way that is even staggering for politicians.
00:25:47.920And my concern, Buck, is, you heard that answer right there.
00:25:52.560My concern is, he's just going to try to glide, because he is glib, and he is good at talking.
00:25:59.460He's just going to glide away from all the crazy opinions he had, and say, well, that's not what I really meant.
00:26:05.900That's not really the way that I want it applied.
00:26:16.560Do you wish you hadn't said some of those things a few years back?
00:26:23.820My statements in 2020 were ones made amidst a frustration that many New Yorkers held at the murder of George Floyd
00:26:35.200and the inability to deliver on what Eric Adams, of all people, described as the right for all of us to be able to enjoy safety and justice that we need not choose between the two.
00:26:53.540And it's just a non-answer, which is what this guy is really saying.
00:26:58.600And you're right about Joe Biden wasn't crazy enough to go fully down the defund the police BLM train,
00:27:06.480because I think at that point in time he had enough sanity to recognize that that was a poor decision.
00:27:11.820And we've said on this program, probably the only thing Joe Biden got right in his whole career was the 1994 crime bill,
00:27:18.220which helped to put violent criminals behind bars, kept them off the streets, and has led to, at that point, a decline in the overall rate of violence.
00:27:26.780And that means that he is going to be able to avoid consequences for anything that he has said, I think.
00:27:43.260And I think, unfortunately, he's going to be elected the next mayor of New York City.
00:27:46.260And the latest polling on this, the latest polling does not look good for anyone who's hoping Mom Donnie does not win,
00:27:54.660because however you split it, even if Cuomo drops, he wins.
00:28:24.720I'm sure people complain even about the price of housing in downtown Nashville now, right?
00:28:29.060I mean, people say it's expensive or it's gotten a lot more expensive, not compared to New York.
00:28:33.920But, you know, prices can rise in these areas pretty rapidly.
00:28:36.700But in New York, the housing supply is artificially constrained in a number of ways by the regulations, by the super tenant-friendly and landlord-hostile laws that are in place,
00:28:51.760the massive welfare programs for housing that, you know, I think it's NYHA or whatever it is, the New York City Housing Authority.
00:29:02.820There's a lot, and then there's rent control.
00:29:06.180There's all these things that the government has done.
00:29:10.560I mean, you could go through this whole list.
00:29:12.220There's all these things that are government decisions that have made housing substantially more expensive than it would otherwise be in New York.
00:29:19.880And here comes a guy whose entire ideology is in line with all of those decisions who's saying,
00:29:25.720oh, but I'm going to make things cheaper for you.
00:29:30.620Look, the people who are sitting around saying, oh, but I'll be able to afford to live here if Mamdani is the mayor are guaranteed to be very disappointed.
00:29:40.200But they're still going to vote for him.
00:29:42.220And, you know, this is like real communism has never been tried.
00:30:21.500It's not even you can every he's wrong on everything, but the one that I look at and I really it's not even BLM because that was such a defund the police.
00:30:33.360Any moron that you knew on social media in 2020, oftentimes highly educated, was making that argument in 2020.
00:30:41.240That one doesn't even surprise me as much.
00:30:44.140The fact that he's arguing that we should have city owned grocery stores is so like that by itself is so profoundly dumb that he's making that argument right now.
00:30:59.300He's not even trying to backtrack on that.
00:31:01.260He's saying, oh, grocery stores are making too much money.
00:31:03.860The profit margin on a grocery store is 2% at best.
00:31:07.720It is one of the most difficult businesses to do well in all of American commerce.
00:31:14.900And if you just look at all these socialist countries that decide, hey, we're going to have government funded groceries.
00:31:33.840The expensive for trucks and refrigeration and everything else that's required.
00:31:38.600And he's arguing, hey, I'm going to save people money on groceries by taking it over and doing city funded grocery stores is so transparently unable to understand basic economics that that by itself is disqualifying to me.
00:31:54.720Well, this is what I mean is it's not like there's a trade off here.
00:31:57.700And this is, I think, also exactly what you're getting at.
00:31:59.960It's not that there's a trade off here of, oh, well, people want the following things from Mom Donnie.
00:32:05.040And even if he's bad on some things that you and I and others care about, he will deliver on things that they want.
00:32:13.840He's going to fail on the things that they think they're getting as well.
00:32:18.000It's just going to be a disaster across the board.
00:32:21.980And he doesn't even have, he's articulate.
00:32:26.240What has he ever done that is any level of success?
00:32:29.600One rule that I wish was in place is in order to be running for politics, you have to have been profoundly successful in some other aspect of your life, right?
00:32:40.880Hey, I had success here and now I'm going to try politics.
00:32:44.320What has Mom Donnie ever done that he's been successful at?
00:33:12.500But if he actually tries to implement the things that he's arguing for, it's going to be one of the biggest disasters the city has seen in any of our lives in terms of elected political officials.
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00:35:49.620It's one of the reasons that we don't live as long and that we do have to pay more because of our chronic illness.
00:35:54.080This is why the Maha movement has gained such traction because moms know that it's gotten really hard to be healthy in America.
00:36:00.980But the good news is that 90% of all the expenses, 90% of all the problems that I think we're facing, both as paying for health care but also being healthy, is around chronic disease, which we have some control over, and mental illness.
00:36:36.840And when you lose that, you tend to become atomized, separate from everybody else.
00:36:40.480So part of the challenge in the Trump administration, and the president is very clear on this, is break the silos down, break down the barriers, and then use the power to convene.
00:36:48.740And by that, he means allow people to know that you're serious, that you have a stick you'll use if you have to, but you'd rather use carrots to get them to work together on their own voluntarily.
00:37:00.180And that's what happened yesterday at the White House.
00:37:02.100The president hosted a wonderful event.
00:37:03.960It was the 60th anniversary, by the way, of the Forum Foundation of Medicare and Medicaid, the agencies that I run.
00:37:09.460And the president had 60 of the biggest technology companies and healthcare companies in America pledge, promise, they were going to do business differently.
00:37:19.780They're going to give the American people their medical records back.
00:37:27.440And there's information about that you should have access to.
00:37:30.120And so we are getting all these companies together, and together are going to make possible, on your phone, the ability to get information and advice about your well-being, to get your doctor to be able to message you directly, make doctor's appointments, which is hard for a lot of Americans, and get the whole process to move forward in the 21st century, like so many other sectors of the American economy have, with great productivity and success.
00:37:55.260Dr. Oz, one of the things you're hearing a lot out there, or we're hearing a lot out there, I'm sure you do too, from people who are critical of Trump, well, on everything, but particularly of the big, beautiful bill, has to do with throwing millions of people off of Medicaid, we are told, right?
00:38:13.820This is the talking point from the Democrats.
00:38:15.600Can you just break down what did the big, beautiful bill do with respect to Medicaid and health care funding so that everyone can hear it from somebody who's living with these spreadsheets right in front of him?
00:38:28.320The one big, beautiful bill saved Medicaid.
00:38:30.700This beautiful program that was described by Hubert Humphrey as fulfilling our moral and government obligation to take care of those at the dawn of life, the children, those at the twilight of life, the seniors, and those living in the shadows.
00:38:49.340Back then, it never crossed anybody's mind that you would let an able-bodied person live forever on Medicaid without having to at least try to participate in the community.
00:38:57.880And every Democratic president, every Republican president, has said the foundation of a social safety net is work.
00:39:05.080You're not supposed to just give people money and insurance.
00:39:07.720You're supposed to say, here, this is something for you to get you back on your feet again so that together we can roll the oars and get society to be productive and get America to thrive.
00:39:30.740This was an opportunity to give the American people who are trapped in Medicaid the belief that they matter, that they have autonomy on their life, that they have agency, give them a chance to get a job, to volunteer, to get educated, to participate, as God gave them the right to do.
00:39:48.580We're all put on this planet to do something, and if you're going to watch 6.1 hours of television a day or just hang out, which is what's – that's the number, by the way, for people who are able-bodied on Medicaid or aren't working, that's not a life.
00:40:17.000Dr. Oz, I think one of the things that's incredibly frustrating to so many people out there who spend so much money on their health care is we pay way more, and we don't get the results that would suggest we should get based on what we're paying.
00:40:31.120In other words, when you look at life expectancy, our numbers are not great.
00:40:36.340Why are we getting gouged in other wealthy countries?
00:40:40.440I understand why they don't charge as much in countries where people are vastly inferior in wealth.
00:40:47.000But Europe pays, for instance, way less than we do for many of the same drugs.
00:40:51.640Certainly, Canada and Mexico, people go across the border to buy the same drugs for a fraction of the cost.
00:40:58.340I think that's one of the things that gets people the most fired up.
00:41:01.000I know you saw it when you ran for Senate.
00:41:05.780Well, as always, what makes you so successful is your timely questions.
00:41:09.000Within the hour, the White House announced a most favored nation prescription price letter from the president going out to all the major companies addressing exactly what you just described, the gouging of the American people.
00:41:24.320And the original executive order that some may remember from a few months ago asked that this global freeloading stop.
00:41:31.820So here's what the president is saying to all the manufacturers, and it's our job to go out there and not negotiate these prices.
00:41:37.380But he's saying from now on, we don't want brand prices in America costing three times the exact same product in the same box made in the same factory as it costs in Europe.
00:41:46.240And the metaphor for me is the NATO deal.
00:41:50.720So with NATO, there's an external threat.
00:41:52.620The president said, because it's an external threat, we all have to chip in, but we don't pay the whole bill in America.
00:42:56.460Just like with NATO, we'll do the same thing with this most favored nation, prescription drug pricing.
00:43:00.460Dr. Oz, how do you foresee technology?
00:43:03.940We're in this age of rapidly advancing capabilities with AI and robotics and a whole range of tools that are already doing pretty marvelous things or showing marvelous possibility.
00:43:18.240How is technology going to be leveraged under this Trump administration, which obviously you're a part of it, on the health side, to improve Americans' health, to find cures, to get us healthier?
00:43:28.780The American people have been waiting too long.
00:43:33.800We've been waiting to get the right information to the doctor's office days and days when it should have been immediately delivered.
00:43:40.160We've waited for these surprise bills from hospitals.
00:43:42.500We've waited for access to our medical records just to see stuff that we pay for.
00:43:46.480And we've been waiting for Washington to take action.
00:43:49.020The commitments that the president made yesterday with all these companies pledging puts an end to this waiting.
00:43:54.080Technology is going to allow us to message you when you want to hear it about things going on in your life.
00:43:59.340It's going to allow doctors to look at you in the eyes and talk to you instead of having to chart the whole time because they've got a code so they can chart and bill for the encounter.
00:44:07.520It's going to make it much easier for us to fast-track things like prior authorization where you're trying to see if an insurance company is going to pay for something you thought you paid for.
00:44:16.180All that's going to become automated much faster.
00:44:19.100But the real benefit here, and this is a critical point, is that we're going to be able to cut the fraud, waste, and abuse out of the system that's destroying it.
00:44:27.460Maybe $100 billion of administrative costs unnecessarily.
00:44:31.080You may have read last month with the Department of Justice, we announced a $50 billion takedown because we're a $1.8 trillion entity.
00:44:39.200We're double the size of the defense budget.
00:44:40.840And in order to get into our walls, our security walls, you can use the numbers that all Medicare beneficiaries have, their membership number.
00:44:51.160And so foreign companies and countries, literally, the $15 billion was a multinational criminal organization that I believe is based in Russia.
00:45:00.160I mean, these are massive operations trying to take us down.
00:45:03.340Technology is going to allow us to protect ourselves.
00:45:05.780But at its very core, the goal is not just to keep people alive, it's to get them to be vital, to get them to flourish.
00:45:12.240The value of an American who's healthy enough to work is much, much greater than what it costs to treat them.
00:45:18.820But we have to actually get at those wonderful folks who are making mistakes about their lifestyle in a timely fashion.
00:45:26.300And technology, especially AI, will let us talk to people in ways that we couldn't have before.
00:45:31.640To literally babysit them through a process that they may be going through, which a doctor just won't do on their own.
00:48:29.500We had a change in administration in January.
00:48:31.920So it's nice to finally have a positive agenda that we can implement.
00:48:36.060But like you said, things are changing every day, lots of big things in our world.
00:48:42.100I think what's interesting is we get a lot of questions about tariffs, and I will get a lot of questions about tariffs.
00:48:48.240But we don't, even though the word trade is in our name, we don't necessarily do anything with tariffs other than see maybe some of the consequences of that.
00:48:58.160So we don't negotiate those or enforce those.
00:49:01.300So what we're looking at, what the Federal Trade Commission does, is protect American consumers in the United States, mostly from fraudsters and scammers.
00:49:09.160And like you said, from anti-competitive behavior.
00:49:12.040And we look at mergers in the world and see what's happening with companies.
00:49:15.540And we want to protect Americans from monopolists as well.
00:49:18.520So what are some of the, thank you for being with us, Commissioner, it's Buck.
00:49:24.360You know, one thing that we, we have a great sponsor on the show that deals with identity theft.
00:49:29.320And one thing that I've seen is just how sophisticated some of these efforts are to do that.
00:49:36.300It's really, it used to be somebody would send you an email saying, you know, I'll give you a million dollars if you give me $10,000.
00:49:41.560And unfortunately that would work far too often, but it's a little bit, a little bit on the, on the obvious side.
00:49:48.420Now they're getting really good at pretending to be from a bank or, I mean, what are the kind of scams or the kind of things the FTC is focused in on policing these days?
00:51:17.800So what we do is a lot of the times we're looking at trends of frauds.
00:51:22.020So we have a really large database that, that we have, um, that many, many states have access to.
00:51:28.200And we look at complaints that are coming in.
00:51:30.540I think one, one thing that I want to, if I could get a message out, one thing is to make sure to report the fraud.
00:51:36.300We have a website that says that where you can report the frauds.
00:51:39.620And we take those complaints and we start from there and able to, and in order to do, um, like you said, investigations, we can, we will issue, um, civil investigative demands.
00:51:50.500If we think there's a criminal component to it, we work with our criminal partners.
00:51:54.180We will go reach out to the department of justice or others, estate partners, um, U S attorneys and, and, and districts across the country and work with them.
00:52:03.600And if, um, those are, those types of criminal components are, are applicable to.
00:52:10.140So basically you can flag something for DOJ and then DOJ can actually make it a criminal matter.
00:52:14.500If that's the kind of fraud you're talking about.
00:52:17.440But we don't have to stop just because we, there might be a criminal component.
00:52:20.680A lot of times we can move really fast in terms of freezing assets and going in and making sure to like to, to, to stop the bleeding and, and basically have those assets available if, and when we can get some money back to consumers.
00:52:32.540One of the biggest challenges I would imagine in the merger space is technology and the fact that this thing is moving so rapidly, whether it's AI or elsewhere, that we typically think of monopoly power as something that leads to higher prices.
00:52:48.400But in the universe that we're in now, some of these huge tech companies are arguing that when they are merging, when they are buying new assets, it's actually leading to lower prices.
00:53:01.820Because the tech universe has definitely maybe upset the apple cart of what monopolistic power truly looks like.
00:53:10.600I think that's so important that we're actually analyzing what the harms are.
00:53:14.680Like you said, we have mergers that we look at, so many mergers that get filed and we get notification of them, but in the vast majority of them, like literally 98% of cases, there's no real problem there in terms of the merger.
00:53:29.800And in fact, a lot of mergers provide benefits for consumers.
00:53:33.880And so what we want to do is make sure we're getting out of the way if there are mergers out there that can really provide benefits, because the faster that they can move, the better and quicker that those benefits can go to consumers.
00:53:44.860And then in the smaller amount of cases, yes, we'll take a second look in those 2% cases to see what's happening.
00:53:51.160But like you said, in tech and in big tech, these are extremely dynamic markets.
00:53:56.520Things are changing all the time, and we want to be analyzing them correctly, so we're not providing or we're not preventing any benefits that consumers could enjoy.
00:54:40.660I will say one thing that is, if I can just leave with a few last moments, thoughts related to the tariffs.
00:54:50.720I think there's just been this real reinvigoration of American manufacturing, American exceptionalism.
00:54:57.120And the one thing that the FTC has been focusing on in the month of July is the Made in the USA label rule and our enforcement efforts there.
00:55:08.640And if folks are looking and they're seeing problems made in the USA labels that they just don't, that are suspect to them, they can email us at musa at ftc.org.
00:55:22.040So if businesses are trying to comply with the law and want to make sure that they are advertising truthfully and really working with consumers on that, they can also email us.
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