Clay and Buck discuss the incredible fourth quarter of the NBA Finals, the New York Knicks come-from-behind win over the Los Angeles Lakers, the Iran deal, and much, much more. Also, a possible biological threat at the Pentagon.
00:02:38.860The best and most incredible fourth quarter of basketball I have ever seen.
00:02:43.760The biggest comeback in a finals, and in some ways, I guess,
00:02:49.140You could say the biggest comeback in any game, given the importance of this one.
00:02:53.740They were down at one moment by 29 points, and they came all the way back.
00:03:00.460So we'll talk a little bit about that because it's really turned into a New York phenomenon.
00:03:07.340The city of New York is in rare form these days.
00:03:11.140People dancing in the streets, having a great time.
00:03:13.820There are, unfortunately, some – there always are –
00:03:18.760some people who think that they're in some other place,
00:03:22.340some other city where they do these things, which they should not do,
00:03:25.400causing mayhem and trouble getting arrested.
00:03:27.260So we'll talk a little bit about the Knicks.
00:03:30.400And it is, in fact, the case that I grew up watching them going to games,
00:03:34.120many, many games, and was a longtime fan.
00:03:38.620And now – so I feel like I'm putting my jersey back on again.
00:03:42.080It has been collecting dust. It has been retired for a bit.
00:03:46.820Big news, though, also with the Iran situation that we shall discuss.
00:03:53.040President Trump has, well, there have been some airstrikes, and Trump has said more is coming.
00:03:59.080And we are back on the kinetic portion of this situation,0.85
00:04:05.080The campaign to hit them hard enough from the sky that the Iranians finally are willing to sign the deal, to get behind the deal and accept that this is where things are going.
00:04:17.360Some updates also on the Graham-Plattner main Senate race.
00:04:22.740Trump was on Fox and Friends this morning.
00:05:27.320One is the city of New York has been through a lot of heartbreak and has had a lot of years where their basketball team was either terrible, and that was more like the 2000s, mid-2000s era, or came close, that was in my youth, including against the Houston Rockets, when they very much could have and should have won.
00:05:53.440And so people just see this as part of the story of America's largest city.
00:05:58.020And I know a lot of UWR listeners in particular see this as long overdue.
00:07:35.260I was able to get back and watch the second half of the game, and this was the biggest single comeback that has ever been mounted in a final, and the Knicks were down, have been down, I'm sorry, this is the statistic I want to give you.
00:07:53.360Teams down 20-plus points in the postseason over the last two years are 4-71.
00:09:43.260Mr. Brunson here is just a very classy individual.
00:09:49.100And, you know, he's married to his high school sweetheart.
00:09:52.000He is not somebody who's, you know, causing problems or getting into a mess off the court.
00:09:59.800And for a generation of young men, particularly young men who really look up to basketball players,
00:10:06.520uh he's he's certainly fitting the role of role model in the sports world in a way that i think
00:10:11.740is really admirable so i look at this guy not just as a new yorker but as somebody who observes
00:10:17.720public figures in general and thinks that we are in very much uh something of a desperate need in
00:10:24.040pop culture for for people who are very successful men who are very successful but also conducting
00:10:32.720themselves in a way that you'd say well i'd like you know my son to to act that way especially if
00:10:37.800they reach that pinnacle of their profession whether it's athletics or anything else i think
00:10:42.000there's some general uh lessons from this there also of course was some funny stuff about how
00:10:47.240it was because trump wasn't there and they had this great win uh people were talking about it
00:10:54.980as a breaking of the trump curse they make everything political they really do pretend
00:11:00.220And the reason the Knicks lost their last home game before this was because of Donald Trump.
00:11:07.600So I do appreciate that this gives everybody an opportunity to follow a story
00:11:14.060where there's some really positive escapism.
00:11:18.920People were making jokes and making fun of me last night.
00:11:21.280When Buck Sexton is tweeting about a basketball game,
00:11:24.640it means that it has reached critical mass and everyone is really fired up about it.0.96
00:11:28.800I'm going to talk to you about Iran and everything else here in just a moment, but it was a pretty incredible spectacle last night, and it's fun to see the city of New York, which I've been a little concerned about because of Mamdani and some of the trajectory of the governance there.0.91
00:11:46.200It's nice to see it have something to get really excited about.0.91
00:11:50.400The one thing that I will just say is the people that do this thing where they,
00:11:55.680and I know this isn't a New York thing, this happens all over the place,
00:11:58.400but who after their team wins, they think that the way to celebrate
00:12:03.140is to break things and cause mayhem and anarchy.0.93
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00:20:57.980So getting inside of the courthouse was in itself extremely difficult because the judge in this case really put a lot of security protocols in place
00:21:07.320to try to keep this, you know, trial as secure as possible.
00:21:12.100So I was able to go inside for jury selection,
00:21:15.380and that's when I saw, you know, first look at Carmelo Anthony,
00:21:19.360and the jury selection process was really interesting in itself
00:21:22.420because the way that it worked is the courtroom itself
00:21:26.700was sectioned off for friends, family, and then just six members of the media,
00:21:32.540but then there was a separate room where the actual jury selection
00:21:37.040And then the trial was being live streamed to. And then people could line up every single day, you know, members of the public.
00:21:43.960And there were 27 spots for that room. However, people were lining up as early as 3 a.m. to try and get into this trial.
00:21:51.640You know, the judge, one of the security protocols that he had put in place was that there was a curfew on courthouse grounds.
00:21:57.560So nobody could be at the courthouse from 11 p.m. to 6 a.m., but people would line up on the public sidewalk as early as 3 o'clock in the morning to try to get a spot in line for this alternate, you know, room that was open to the public.
00:22:13.720So very competitive to actually even try to get into the courthouse at all.
00:22:19.100However, again, all of the action on my end was outside because you did have groups of Carmelo Anthony supporters that were there every single day.
00:22:28.080I got there last Monday and I wanted to be there for the jury selection process.
00:22:33.940And the Carmelo supporters were there since day one of this trial.
00:22:38.300On top of that, I noticed as well that people began donating to Carmelo Anthony's give, send, go as well as soon as the trial started last week.
00:22:49.440So that was a little bit of what the actual scene was like being on the ground.
00:22:55.160Like I said, I was able to get into the courthouse for jury selection, saw that first book of Carmelo Anthony, who, again, you know, as everybody has seen now that his booking photos have been released, he didn't shave his head.
00:23:06.180He had a very youthful look, youthful appearance.
00:23:08.300One of the things that his attorney was trying to do since the start of this case and during jury selection was refer to Carmelo Anthony as mellow as a way to, you know, again, this is my opinion, try to bolster that very youthful appearance, that youthful look and this youthful vibe surrounding Carmelo.
00:23:29.440So, again, that was kind of just what it was like being on the ground there.
00:23:33.500Tell me about some of the, because the videos have gone, and I think some of them are even your videos, have gone very viral online of the Carmelo Anthony supporters outside saying some pretty jaw-dropping, eyebrow-raising things, especially after the verdict was announced.
00:23:56.120What percentage of them would you say were black?
00:24:00.040What were some of the things that were, you know, what was that like?
00:24:03.700Were they squaring off with supporters of Austin Metcalfe's family?
00:24:08.700I mean, take us to some of the melee outside the courthouse day to day and particularly after the verdict was announced.
00:24:18.260Sure. So I unfortunately was not on the ground for the actual verdict.
00:24:22.080I had a legal meeting that I had to be at for my Minneapolis case.
00:24:26.680However, I was there the entire week prior.
00:24:29.160And, again, we did see the footage that came out as the verdict was read when the verdict first came out, and it's exactly what I was expecting.
00:24:36.780Now, the week before, these Carmelo Anthony supporters were extremely aggressive.
00:24:41.900I had gone up to them last week on Monday or Tuesday when I had first gotten there, and I basically just wanted to ask them very basic questions.
00:24:49.820Why are you here? Why is this important to you? You know, what are your thoughts on this trial?
00:24:54.200And they were extremely aggressive. And at first I thought, OK, maybe they know that I work for Turning Point USA and they feel like that isn't a friendly media organization.
00:25:03.500However, as the national media started showing up, they had this exact same reaction to everybody.
00:25:09.340And there was a local reporter there who had tapped on the shoulder of one of the leaders who was leading the chants such as, you know, our black youth deserve protection too.
00:25:20.200All of them were wearing, we decree Carmelo Anthony will be free shirts.
00:25:24.820And they were there chanting about how Carmelo Anthony was without a doubt innocent.
00:25:31.520They were not following the facts of this case.
00:25:33.620They were there every single day simply to declare that Carmelo Anthony was innocent.
00:25:37.640and anybody in the media who tried to speak with them was met with a lot of aggression.
00:25:42.080So going back to this local reporter, he tapped on the shoulder of one of the leaders of this group
00:25:46.320to simply try to get his name for the story that he was writing.
00:25:50.280And this Carmelo supporter acted like this guy tried to punch him in the face.
00:25:54.900And a mob quickly formed around him, and others had to hold this leader back.
00:25:59.540So this is one of the most aggressive groups I have ever encountered.
00:26:03.280I've covered protests for years. And this is one of the most aggressive. They would not let any media speak to them anytime anyone went over simply to, again, get the name of their group, their organization, ask them a simple question.
00:26:17.300It was very aggressive. And then you did have Metcalf supporters that were showing up last week simply to wave American flags.
00:26:24.980And they were met with some of the most heinous racial slurs that I have ever heard.
00:26:30.820And, again, going back to that aggression, it was quotes such as, you're going to be pushing up daisies just like Metcalf.
00:26:38.800If I was close enough to you, I would push you into the grave.
00:26:42.280And these were simply people that were there to support Austin Metcalf and his family.
00:26:47.920So that was, again, the week before the actual verdict was read.
00:26:51.700And then I did have friends that were on the ground for the verdict being read.
00:26:55.120They state that, again, there was a large group that was there.
00:26:57.980However, it was a few key actors, all of them, yes, African-American, who were very vocal, very aggressive, very angry about this guilty verdict.
00:27:08.060But again, this was not surprising at all to me based on what I had seen last week in terms of these supporters really not caring to follow the trial and really trying their hardest to make this about race.
00:27:19.940When in reality, it was about Carmelo Anthony murdering Austin Metcalf.
00:27:25.240Again, nobody on the witness stand brought forward race or how this was, you know, anything that was tied to race or racism at all.
00:27:33.800However, for some reason, multiple black activists tried their hardest to make this a racially divisive story and try to highlight how this entire trial was somehow tied to white supremacy and racism.
00:27:46.780Well, you might have heard or seen, Savannah, that member of Congress, Jasmine Crockett, this is cut 2016, she, well, you just got to hear this, actually.
00:28:00.22035 years for a kid who had decided to go under a tent that was not his team's tent as it was raining and simply didn't want to be put out in the rain by some random kid that he didn't know who was larger than him.
00:28:13.700listen a lot of people don't know what it is to live as a black person in this country but
00:28:18.400just like you can give the benefit of the doubt to so many police officers when they go out and
00:28:22.960they shoot some black unarmed person even though they are trained the fact that there was little
00:28:29.160to no mercy scene or humanity scene when this black boy said that i was scared uh people don't0.86
00:28:37.820know what it's like to live as a black person in this country she says everyone including
00:28:42.420eyewitnesses who were black agreed that carmelo anthony just dared someone to try to actually put0.94
00:28:48.460a hand on him to move him from the tent and then stab the kid in the heart exactly buck and again
00:28:55.240what the defense tried to argue was labeled as disastrous by you know multiple people by many
00:29:03.000media members of the media uh the defense had no defense quite frankly of carmelo anthony and even
00:29:09.340the witnesses that they called forward stated that carmelo anthony was in the wrong and that
00:29:13.500he provoked all of this um so again you know jasmine crockett coming forward and trying to
00:29:19.560frame carmelo anthony as the victim in this situation is quite frankly disgusting she also
00:29:23.780went on her podcast and stated that she wasn't sure if the knife that carmelo anthony used could
00:29:28.300be labeled as a quote deadly weapon um we actually here since you mentioned it we have that play 29
00:29:34.480on guys was it a switch i don't know what he had it was like uh it was it seemed like it was a
00:29:39.760multi-tool almost like a swiss army like with the little scissors and everything and whatever
00:29:45.820so it was small well i would argue the size of it alone you wouldn't even think it's a deadly weapon
00:29:51.240she thinks that the weapon used to kill someone is not a deadly weapon i think that's actually
00:29:58.160in many ways kind of a perfect encapsulation of jasmine crockett's uh legal thinking and
00:30:04.380and capabilities exactly and it's so frustrating too because we have such a strong victim
00:30:11.100mentality in this country that you have a cut and dry case of murder and the jury was able to
00:30:17.160deliberate on this in mere hours this trial actually happened very quickly let's not forget
00:30:21.520that it really started last thursday and then from you know thursday to tuesday the jury saw
00:30:27.520everything that they needed to and they were able to come to this guilty verdict very quickly
00:30:32.080because, again, like you just said, Buck, even, you know, black teammates, black people who were
00:30:37.460there that day stated that Carmelo Anthony was in the wrong in this case. So for a sitting
00:30:42.820congresswoman, thank goodness that she's not going to be reelected and we won't have to deal with her1.00
00:30:47.320in Texas anymore. But for a sitting congresswoman to try to make this a racial thing, instead of1.00
00:30:51.800just saying, you know what, looking at the facts of this case, this was a murder and this was wrong.
00:30:56.220It's really disheartening to see that this is the type of rhetoric that is coming out of
00:31:00.560some subsets of the black community. And I actually did interview a woman who was there
00:31:05.800in support of Carmelo. She went viral as well after the verdict was read off because she was
00:31:09.500basically saying, I have five kids. What am I supposed to tell them now? I had interviewed her
00:31:14.000the week prior and I asked, if evidence comes out that shows that Carmelo Anthony is guilty of
00:31:19.160murder and that he was not acting in self-defense, is the black community going to accept that?0.52
00:31:23.640And she said, no, we're going to stand with ours regardless. So I don't even know how to begin to
00:31:29.220understand this mindset of we are going to stand by our own whether or not they murdered somebody
00:31:35.400in cold blood but it's a real problem in this country i'm wondering um how how many people
00:31:42.000were outside the courthouse just roughly speaking when you were covering this and and did you see
00:31:46.300any vocal non-black carmelo anthony supporters outside the courthouse
00:31:52.320when i was out there i want to say there was 30 to 45 um for the day that the verdict is
00:32:01.420right off i know that there was you know a much larger group than that um but when i was there
00:32:06.740nope they were all um black supporters of carmelo anthony and again they were very much trying to
00:32:11.680make this a racial thing this was very much we're not going to look at the facts of the case we are
00:32:15.500solely here because he is the same color as us and therefore he is innocent because he's another0.84
00:32:20.820black American, completely ignoring the facts of the case, completely ignoring the fact that an
00:32:25.880entire family lost their son. They have been going through this. And also, too, you know,
00:32:31.480one of the things that was kind of overlooked was the victim impact statements, right? You had
00:32:35.660Austin Metcalfe's mother, father, and his twin brother, Hunter, basically talk about how much
00:32:41.300they have been grieving. Austin Metcalfe's father stating that he has been filled with rage,
00:32:46.020telling Carmelo that he failed his own family, he failed himself, he failed society as a whole.
00:32:51.780Austin's mother coming forward and stating that Carmelo got out of this easy because he got 35
00:32:56.140years, but she's been sentenced to a life without her son. And then Hunter simply asking Carmelo to
00:33:01.280look at him in the eye when he gave his testimony. Carmelo was unable to make eye contact with any
00:33:05.980of them. So it's really sad to see how this entire situation played out. Let's not forget as well
00:33:11.660that Carmelo's own family utilized this tragedy to fundraise, and they were able to raise $625,000
00:33:19.560on behalf of Carmelo's, quote, defense fund. But again, that went toward putting them in a home
00:33:26.520that was almost a million dollars. Initially, Carmelo was held on a $1 million bond, but they
00:33:32.040pled to a judge that they were in financial straits and they couldn't make bond, and they
00:33:36.000asked for that judge to lower um you know the bond to 250,000 which the judge ended up doing
00:33:42.040and he was out on bond the entirety of um you know the lead up to this trial you know savannah
00:33:47.740honestly looking at some of those videos and i know you're saying that the people you interviewed
00:33:52.980uh and now it's i can say because you were there all of the supporters of carmelo anthony at the
00:33:58.080courthouse at least were black and from what some of them have said i do actually do not believe
00:34:03.120that they think that he is innocent i think they know what he did i think that the attitude of some
00:34:08.940of the people at courthouse was the white boy got what was coming to him which is a different thing
00:34:13.640i don't think that they think that carmelo anthony was innocent i think that they're like oh
00:34:17.780you know we we got one on the other side here we managed to take there was way too much dismissing
00:34:24.860of the actual evidence in the case i think that there are some people out there who have so much
00:34:29.320animus that they were they felt that like i said that then the white kid got what was coming to
00:34:34.200him here and that was their attitude it's not that oh carmelo anthony actually was acting to
00:34:38.860defend himself because there's no there as you said there was no self-defense uh case to be made
00:34:44.100here you otherwise i've told everybody if somebody bumped you you know in the subway you could say
00:34:49.600they assaulted me so i had to pull out a gun and shoot them i mean there has to be a reasonable
00:34:53.380standard uh thank you for the reporting you've done on this uh savannah and uh savannah hernette
00:34:57.800is everybody at tp usa and let us know how your trial i know this is this is from um we got to
00:35:02.740go to a break here but this is from up in minnesota where you were assaulted by anti-ice
00:35:06.260lunatics right yep they've all filed restraining orders on me so i now have to go back to
00:35:11.980minneapolis to go fight those so update on that case there all right keep us keep us in the loop
00:35:17.080savannah thank you so much born on america's darkest day of september 11th the tunnel the
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00:37:03.360It'll be bigger, bigger, more powerful.
00:37:06.940Don't forget, we've knocked out all of their anti-aircraft.
00:37:09.560They don't have any anti, they have nothing.
00:37:11.360I mean, they may get lucky with a shoulder weapon or something,
00:37:13.840But for the most part, you know, they they have no they have no defense.
00:37:17.940They're finished. But the papers, the media refuses to write it.
00:37:22.720They're finished. We can walk in there tomorrow.
00:37:26.040We could take soldiers. I don't want to have boots on the ground.
00:37:28.760But if I wanted to, we could put a small group of soldiers and take over the whole place.
00:37:35.720OK, so let's unpack this a little bit together.
00:37:38.820President Trump here says that the Iranians are finished
00:37:43.480and that their Air Force and their Navy and anti-air defense, notably,
00:37:49.440are essentially gone, have been taken out.
00:37:54.300And so I think the next fair and necessary question is,
00:37:59.400okay, they must know that too, so why is there no deal?
00:38:04.080So I will sit here and say to you, I have just said out loud what President Trump says he wants the media to say, which is that we have completely obliterated a lot of aspects of their military, have total dominance over their skies, can hit them basically anywhere we want to in the country.0.97
00:42:04.340different parties involved that um that i'm sure involved plenty of horse trading if you will
00:42:14.180and in that respect we need to see what has happened here um i will tell you
00:42:22.100that until we know what has been agreed to it's really hard to know how much of a final uh victory
00:42:32.080this is against the iranian nuclear program i am hopeful that this is going to end up being
00:42:38.240exactly what donald trump has set out from the beginning which is not only an agreement to take
00:42:45.140steps and remember i'm setting out this framework beforehand so that we can all be honest with each
00:42:50.280other about how this is actually turning out an agreement to take steps that are both verifiable
00:42:58.320and enforceable so that iran cannot reconstitute parts of its nuclear weapons program right that's
00:43:09.520what really so what that doesn't mean and again i haven't seen the text of the deal no one has yet
00:43:14.500what that doesn't mean is we're going to spend the next 90 days figuring out what the steps are
00:43:19.820so we've agreed to that that's a that is an agreement to form an agreement that's like a
00:43:25.340committee to talk about the committee that would not be and now trump has said all along he will
00:43:30.900not do that i want to see what he does here because we've also been hearing for weeks and weeks
00:43:37.680the deal is about to happen it's about to happen now it seems like it's finally happening
00:43:42.120after quite a bit of wrangling and delay i hope it's a great deal for america and a great deal
00:43:48.480for the region because, one, we've had quite an expenditure of military resources on this.
00:43:56.160Two, the price of gas is a major – people can like it or not like it.
00:44:00.820It is a major political liability right now in a midterm election year if it were to stay this high.
00:44:06.940And three, of course, I don't want us to be in a situation where we've done this
00:44:12.960and then this has to be done again in the future or we realize the hard way.
00:44:17.480I can tell you right now, if the deal is not a good deal, Iran would, because of the oil revenue that it has, or that it would have with the strait fully reopened, Iran would be able to reconstitute.
00:44:32.920It didn't have much of a navy to begin with, my friends.
00:44:35.660And its air defenses, it will buy them from Russia, from China, from North Korea.
00:44:44.140if the regime stays i'll also note regime change is not even a discussion anymore that's not even
00:44:50.840talked about so that's off the table the regime is the regime the new leadership is whoever we
00:44:55.540are left with or whoever they're left with after we took out a lot of their leadership class um
00:45:01.520with bombs or missiles or combination of the two so that has been this process up up to this point
00:45:09.900i can tell you that if after today we're told that they didn't show up to the signing or they
00:45:18.620haven't agreed or something i'm going to be pretty salty about that because there's only so many
00:45:24.760times i think we can be told we the american people can be told it's done it's done it's done
00:45:29.360and it's not done so i'm again i'm the first one is going to say i hope that this is fantastic and
00:45:34.620that president trump has this all uh buttoned up and ready to go and and if he achieves with this
00:45:41.880what he has set out to and what he seems very confident that he not only will but maybe
00:45:48.940is in process of doing right it's not just he said this is the mission it seems like he has made
00:45:54.640a major step forward here to achieving that mission if he um if he were to take it to the
00:46:03.980steps or take it to the point where he says we are going it would be a master stroke of uh foreign
00:46:10.360policy and national security strategy the likes of which we haven't seen since really the fall
00:46:16.380of the berlin wall and reagan and the defeat of the soviet union i mean this would be this would
00:46:21.400be region transforming for the middle east so i am i am all about this i am like it it's like
00:46:30.140Donald Trump is the Knicks here and I'm a Knicks fan I want them to win but the game has not been
00:46:36.700decided yet so that's just so you understand where my psychology is on this and if somebody
00:46:42.060says to me well the Knicks have already won buck I'd say well no actually they haven't okay so
00:46:46.640let's not and don't tell me they've won until they win don't tell me that Trump has this done
00:46:51.680until it is done and that includes seeing what the deal is with all these different
00:46:57.860parties involved in this because the the the iranians are this is what they when i say the
00:47:05.300iranians i mean i'm not talking about like our persian friends who live in los angeles and are
00:47:09.000all rooting for a better country for those who are left back home in iran itself i'm saying0.64
00:47:13.980the iranian mullah malacracy the irgc the islamo security apparatus that runs what is the nation
00:47:24.600of uh nation of iran this is what they they they they prevaricate they delay they talk out of both0.74
00:47:32.880sides of their mouths they lie they cheat they steal you know whatever they got to do there's
00:47:37.300no ethics involved in this process there's no honor for them in the negotiation they view this
00:47:42.840as all zero sum they're trying to get the maximum for themselves and hurt us as much as they possibly
00:47:47.060can uh without suffering further punishment right so let's see what this deal actually looks like
00:47:53.300But that was quite a quite a turnabout from we're going to hit them again with massive strikes.
00:47:58.080You know, Trump is saying that we're going to hear where the signing is going to occur.0.56
00:48:02.360There are a few phases beyond that as well, because what you really hope is that whoever's doing this signing is really calling the shots in Iran.
00:48:12.680What happens if someone shows up and signs this thing and then they end up taking a dirt nap because somebody takes them out when they go back home?
00:53:46.380All right, I got a few things to talk to you about.
00:53:49.460First off, this guy Plattner in Maine.
00:53:52.720So now that he is the guy, and you've been involved with, just so everyone knows, you've been involved with political campaigns before.
00:54:00.300So you really know how this machinery operates. How formidable is this guy? How do you think Colin stacks up against him? Democrats, it seems, don't care about the Nazi tattoo, the maltreatment of women, all that stuff. Where does this all shake out?
00:54:17.560I mean, listen, Maine is a Democratic state. Maine has not voted for a Republican in many decades. It's also, ironically, the state that Ross Perot did the best in back in 1992 and 1996. So it has some working class, rustic populist feels to it.
00:54:33.300However, Susan Collins is a machine in the state.0.95
00:54:37.340She's known as, especially for her constituent service, is known as like the best in the state to get something done.0.86
00:55:00.360And Susan Collins is, you know, one of the toughest candidates to beat, though.0.99
00:55:05.360So, yeah, I would say right now it's 50-50 at best just because of her history of beating the polls.
00:55:15.400But on its face, on the polling just by itself, Plattner has the advantage.0.52
00:55:19.300But because of her ability to beat everyone's predictions, I would say it's 50-50 at best.0.97
00:55:25.260What do you think this era that we're in now, I mean, how would you assess the whole, oh, but Plattner is such a scumbag, he said bad things?0.75
00:55:36.780I feel like the rule of Democrats is if they think the candidate can win and that is the person they need to win, it doesn't matter.0.85
00:55:46.760I keep hearing, oh, the next shoe is going to drop and Plattner is going to be out of this thing.
00:55:51.520i think a lot of shoes have dropped and nobody nobody really seems to care very much well i i
00:55:56.540was just in dc and i'm telling you there are from everything i've heard from people who are
00:56:00.700legitimate there are more shoes to drop that are actually even more serious than the allegations
00:56:04.340that already have come out so wouldn't be surprised that's why he keeps saying nothing
00:56:08.140real is coming out but it is but it's not a matter of if they can win it's if someone can build a
00:56:13.840political more political credibility by kicking another member of the party out kristin gillibrand0.52
00:56:19.420thought she was going to build a presidential race by knocking out Al Franken during the height0.96
00:56:23.460of the Me Too movement. It's not how it worked in the end for Kristen Gillibrand, but it was all for1.00
00:56:27.760her own political advantage. But in this era where progressives have a real stronghold on the party
00:56:33.340and are rising in political capabilities in the party, there is no, there is nothing you're going
00:56:38.940to gain from speaking out against Graham Plattner. Very few Democrats are willing to do it either,
00:56:44.340and a lot of them are either Jewish or very supportive of Israel, because Plattner's big
00:56:48.260thing is against israel i mean that's really what unites the far left is their hatred of jews
00:56:53.400so i think that that is what oh that's really where we're at is it doesn't it's not politically
00:56:59.040advantageous for someone to speak out against him it may end up hurting their own chances and
00:57:04.120you know seeing them face a primary challenge in the future so that's am i right did bernie
00:57:09.240sanders endorse platter because what you just said there just interesting to me bernie sanders
00:57:13.820is a communist first and foremost i guess yeah oh he's a big supporter he's the he was the first
00:57:19.720supporter unbelievable that that's that that's where this is the first supporter and and and
00:57:24.600look i mean collins is going to fight like no one else did it just depends on how democrat a wave
00:57:30.040of the year is and if she can continue to defy gravity that seat has not maine has not elected
00:57:35.160a democrat to the u.s senate in decades it has been reliably republican seats in the u.s senate
00:57:41.020i think going back to the 1970s so we'll see if that trend continues and she's able to do it but
00:57:47.380uh i would say there's there's more things to there's more shoes to there's more you know
00:57:51.960there's more controversy coming for grand planner and maybe he doesn't survive because what i've
00:57:56.420been hearing from dc people is way worse than what is already even out there really well for
00:58:01.800you to say that you're not you're not a catastrophist or a uh sky is falling guy so
00:58:05.960if you're saying you're hearing really bad i am curious what's good it is it's bad enough where
00:58:09.940They're saying, can we win the Senate majority without me?
00:58:12.880A number of Democratic consultants have said that out loud.
00:58:17.140Well, we'll keep an eye out for that for sure.
00:58:19.500Now, take us over to California for a minute here because I'm going to tell you something, Ryan.
00:58:24.580I get a little bit of heat sometimes when I come on the air here, and not from everyone, but there are some, some in my beloved audience, some of the folks who are with us now listening.
00:58:34.280they get mad at me when i say guys if we're gonna say they're cheating you have to tell me how and
00:58:41.580show me how you know the how right i'm not saying they're not cheating i'm not saying i don't think
00:58:47.480democrats cheat i think democrats would love to cheat as much as they can get away with but it's
00:58:52.040not enough to just say they're cheating they're cheating they're cheating do we have yet any data
00:58:56.540of cheating to get uh what's his name spencer pratt out of this thing let's start with the
00:59:02.500mayor's race before we talk governor no there is no evidence of broad cheating i mean there's a lot
00:59:07.680of anecdotal stuff you see online that is not evidence in itself and if it was solid evidence
00:59:12.960the doj would love to prosecute people in los angeles especially democratic activists uh when
00:59:18.600you really think about it the woman who came in second place uh the city councilwoman she who with1.00
00:59:24.500the unpronounceable name she did not have the machine the democratic machine behind her that0.92
00:59:29.040was all karen bass and of the two candidates karen between spencer pratt and the city councilman1.00
00:59:34.420spencer pratt was the one that was easier to beat so if the democratic machine was going to steal1.00
00:59:39.640this election for an easier race for karen bass they would have sold for prince of spencer pratt
00:59:43.960um he made a lot of news nationwide but remember la has become much more democratic over time
00:59:50.000these major cities new york chicago portland you know la even dallas and austin have become
00:59:57.600sponges where if you have 45 genders and you know you weigh 500 pounds and your only dreams to work
01:00:03.340at starbucks as a barista you don't stay in fresno you don't stay in these little cities across the0.98
01:00:09.520country or in rural america or even in red states you all flock to the same places and that's why0.99
01:00:15.580amandani and a brandon johnson and and this woman in la this crackpot can win is because they have1.00
01:00:23.000So, you know, because Florida doesn't have these people anymore to my best degree because they've moved all – we've had a student exchange program of crazies.0.99
01:00:32.360So because all the Republicans left the blue states, all the nutbags from those red states have moved to the blue states, and the blue states have become bluer and much more extremely liberal.
01:00:42.020But here's what I say to people all the time.
01:00:43.800The thing that Republicans can win on in California this November is a ballot initiative to demand voting rights.
01:00:51.080It's a big constitutional amendment.0.93
01:00:52.520They just need a simple majority. The polls show it leading in a lot of the polls that voters in California want voter ID laws.
01:00:59.000The one thing that could have really upset the whole entire thing was if the Republicans didn't make the governor runoff.
01:01:05.320So if they were going to steal an election, they would have stole the governor's election, not the mayor of L.A.
01:01:10.660That means nothing to them because they were likely to win no matter what.
01:01:13.060But if Steve Hilton didn't make the ballot and Republicans had no reason to show up in November, well, then the chance of the voter ID law would have absolutely been much lower.
01:01:22.520That's the thing you have to think about is why would they steal the race that doesn't matter and leave the race that does matter?
01:01:28.440And that's why it doesn't even make sense, the accusations they're throwing around.
01:01:32.620So the governor's race, can Steve Hilton win this thing?
01:01:37.620Because we've been pushing for him from the very beginning when there were even other Republicans who were vying for the top GOP slot, if you will, among a very crowded race.
01:01:47.340Are the numbers there so that Hilton could flip this thing?
01:01:52.520It's just – California is a really, really tough state, and the Republicans saw this surge in voter registration right after the election, and then it fell apart because at the end of the day, Republicans are getting out of California as much as they can.
01:02:10.120They're not staying in that state, and the people who are are mostly Democrats.
01:02:14.160So Republicans have seen a voter registration drop over the last year.
01:02:17.580If he's successful, the one thing that Steve Hilton can do is get the voter ID law across the finish line, and he can try to get Republicans running for the state legislature across the finish line if he performs in the mid-40s.
01:02:36.700Maybe Bexara has a bunch of scandals.0.99
01:02:38.800I know he's not well-liked even among Democrats, even among CNN Democrats, say that he's a complete imbecile and was the worst person in the Biden administration.0.99
01:02:46.360that may be enough for Democrats in California.0.98
01:02:49.660It's just that he has a D behind his name and they're not willing to change it up.
01:02:53.440How are we looking for Senate control, would you say, right now overall?
01:02:56.340What are the key things you're looking at and how do you think it's shaping up right now?
01:03:01.100Well, I mean, obviously Maine's a big deal.
01:03:03.320Republicans have kind of written off North Carolina as just a loss.
01:03:06.260I mean, they're going to spend money there, but it's not looking good in North Carolina.
01:03:09.920The good thing is that Republicans are getting registration on the swing seats for the House
01:03:15.180if they're going to keep the House competitive.
01:03:17.140For the Senate, it's going to come down to really four places, Maine, Ohio, Iowa, and Alaska.
01:03:22.820Texas is 50-50, but I looked at the new Siena poll that just came out of the Texas A&M University,
01:03:28.480and there are actually one in three Republicans don't know who Tallarico is, which is very, very interesting.
01:03:34.200And there are more undecided Republicans than there are Democrats.
01:03:37.820So I think Ken Paxton can finish across the line.
01:04:57.180Is it clear as a point of political consensus based on you're looking at the data, the numbers coming in and all these different races and places?
01:05:05.940Is the gas price thing the single biggest vulnerability the GOP has right now?
01:05:10.240So is that is that clear and food? Yep. Gas and food. It's all because I mean, I spoke to Republican senators and these were MAGA Republican senators and they were furious over the Iran war.
01:05:23.040They were like, this is killing us. And I mean, they were showing the internal polls in solidly red states where the Republican incumbent senator who was against a nobody Democrat was winning by low single digits.
01:05:35.920it was they were the gas prices and the food prices are really hurting them among their key
01:05:42.760demographic which is working class whites they are not doing as well with working class whites
01:05:47.360as they should because of those stuff and is that is that tying into also to why platner is maybe
01:05:51.700is that tying into why platner is a little bit more of a concern than he would otherwise be
01:05:55.300yeah and also platner has yes planners are concerned because just main is a concern main
01:06:01.360would have been a concern no matter who it is planners are concerned because he created this
01:06:05.500image that is utterly false and fake and the guy's got you know more stories than mother goose
01:06:09.960as far as well you know i'm a redemption i'm a i'm redeeming he's constantly on on a search for
01:06:16.100his own identity he needs to be in a psych ward not running for you that's just that's just the
01:06:21.700case of it i mean this is we're we're we're we're all have it to bear to his uh emotional uh uh you
01:06:27.100know fallout constantly what are you covering on ryan ryan just give everyone a little preview
01:06:31.020what are you covering on it's a numbers game this week the podcast on the clay and buck network right
01:06:34.360So today, Siester's episode was a DSA of Minneapolis, released their policy platform.
01:06:40.260They want the Democrats to subscribe to.
01:06:41.980It includes giving back the state of Minnesota to Native Americans.1.00