Verdict with Ted Cruz - BONUS： Daily Review With Clay and Buck - Jun 12 2025

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00:00:04.120 Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast.

00:00:09.180 Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

00:00:14.380 from our nation's capital.

00:00:16.800 Having a great time here.

00:00:17.920 I got to say, I have been so impressed and thankful and humbled

00:00:23.120 that Clay and I have seen so many of you, our listeners, around D.C.

00:00:27.700 And at first yesterday, someone came up to me who wanted to take a photo.

00:00:32.680 And I always, all of you, don't ever be shy about it.

00:00:35.800 If you ever want to take, if you just want to shake hands or give me a high five,

00:00:38.720 we love all of you who listen.

00:00:40.380 That is an ironclad rule.

00:00:41.720 If you listen to this show, we appreciate you.

00:00:43.540 We're always happy to talk to you.

00:00:45.040 But at first yesterday, someone came up to me to show me the photo he had taken with Clay,

00:00:49.640 I think earlier in the day, bumped into him on the street

00:00:52.740 and then bumped into me on the street.

00:00:55.180 So that was something.

00:00:56.420 Yeah, in Georgetown, yesterday morning on my way to go meet you

00:01:00.880 as we were headed out to the CIA, a guy on the street comes up

00:01:05.500 and he's like super excited.

00:01:06.740 He said his phone was dead.

00:01:08.520 But he was like, I really, really want to get a selfie with you.

00:01:11.660 Love the show.

00:01:12.440 Listen every day.

00:01:13.180 Leave you some South Carolina. 0.77

00:01:14.540 That's right.

00:01:14.920 I can tell the accent.

00:01:15.980 South Carolina for sure.

00:01:17.560 And so I said, all right, I'll take a picture here.

00:01:20.320 I'm not a great selfie guy.

00:01:21.520 My wife would say I'm really bad at taking pictures

00:01:23.560 and not just because of what I look like, but because I'm not very good at taking the photos.

00:01:27.460 But I took a picture of a selfie with us, emailed the guy from my email.

00:01:32.060 And then you saw him, too.

00:01:33.780 And he was like, this is after we finished dinner.

00:01:35.960 Yeah, he couldn't believe it.

00:01:36.820 I mean, it was like 12 hours apart.

00:01:39.040 And then I bumped into it.

00:01:40.020 So D.C. is a small city with a lot going on, a small city with a very big responsibility.

00:01:46.480 Speaking of which, yesterday, we're going to get into the heat's getting turned up on the Middle East and Iran

00:01:52.520 and obviously the deportations and the L.A. riots and what's going on in other cities.

00:01:59.800 We're going to dive into all that first.

00:02:01.400 But just a little bit of what we're doing here.

00:02:03.660 We yesterday went to, as we mentioned, to Langley, the CIA headquarters,

00:02:08.540 and met with some of the senior folks over there.

00:02:12.120 Had some off-the-record conversations about what's going on.

00:02:15.080 So because it's off-the-record, I can't tell you much about that.

00:02:18.380 But Clay and I did get to go very much on the record through the Spy Museum they have at Langley,

00:02:23.260 which was very cool.

00:02:24.260 I mean, they've got some great stuff.

00:02:25.580 They've really upgraded it since I was there.

00:02:27.840 And then later on in the day, I had a meeting.

00:02:31.380 Well, we had a meeting.

00:02:32.860 Clay can explain what happened.

00:02:35.400 But we had a meeting with the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, and her staff.

00:02:40.960 We is doing a lot of work.

00:02:42.680 We had a scheduled meeting.

00:02:43.840 Well, we had a scheduled meeting that one of us went to.

00:02:47.260 The other one, as a Tennessee resident, had a little boo-boo when it came to his ID.

00:02:52.860 So I got rejected at the White House and the old executive office building

00:02:57.880 because I showed up for a meeting right after we finished the show yesterday,

00:03:02.020 and I don't have a real ID.

00:03:05.660 I've been traveling with my passport.

00:03:08.660 The state of Tennessee doesn't make your driver's license default real ID.

00:03:13.000 I don't want to have an eight-hour day spent at the DMV.

00:03:18.180 Also, we have a weird schedule.

00:03:20.900 We have to be on the air from 11 to 2, central time, where I live in Nashville.

00:03:26.440 So it's hard for me to commit to anything in the morning

00:03:29.420 because it might drag into when our show starts.

00:03:32.140 I've got to drive back.

00:03:33.100 And then by the time our show gets done, getting to somewhere before the DMV closes,

00:03:38.820 it's like I have to take a whole day off work, and I've done it before,

00:03:42.660 to get passports for the kids.

00:03:45.440 So anyway, I show up.

00:03:46.960 Florida just gives you a real ID.

00:03:48.620 I don't know.

00:03:49.100 I don't know.

00:03:49.420 Tennessee, losing some points here.

00:03:51.520 Florida surging ahead in the red state sweepstakes.

00:03:55.080 I'm just telling you the truth.

00:03:56.340 So they wouldn't let me in the White House?

00:03:58.460 Can I just say, I straight up asked the director of national intelligence

00:04:03.640 to vouch for my man Clay.

00:04:06.100 Like, this felt like leaving him at the velvet rope at the nightclub.

00:04:10.000 I was like, but you're not going to let my buddy in?

00:04:12.040 And they're just, you know, the Secret Service guys are just, no.

00:04:15.200 Like, this is the part.

00:04:15.960 There's actually a sign.

00:04:17.280 Yeah, there's a sign.

00:04:17.840 There's a sign when you go in that says, you must have real ID.

00:04:21.260 No exceptions.

00:04:22.720 But Clay, of course, because his Clay was, I mean, I'm Clay Travis.

00:04:25.660 Like, you know, we tried a little bit of that.

00:04:29.380 We tried a little bit of that.

00:04:30.380 But the director of national intelligence said, they won't let me in if I don't have proper ID.

00:04:35.640 Well, I mean, my argument was, we did just spend all morning at the CIA,

00:04:40.500 and I didn't need a real ID to get in there.

00:04:42.740 Spoken like somebody who's trying to evade the rules, you know?

00:04:46.000 Oh, I was at the CIA all morning.

00:04:47.880 They've heard it all, Clay.

00:04:49.480 So I had to leave a man behind.

00:04:51.620 I don't know what to say.

00:04:52.760 He was in the trenches.

00:04:53.860 He was taking grenades, and I had to just run on the battlefield solo.

00:04:58.000 One positive on this is I, as I'm standing outside in the hot baking sun,

00:05:03.180 unable to be let in because I don't have a real ID, which, by the way.

00:05:08.500 Oh, don't be one of these people that gets all sassy about the real ID.

00:05:11.720 No, I just, the real ID, like, I am who I am.

00:05:15.100 I've had, I sound like Sam I am.

00:05:17.040 Um, I got the, uh, I've got the ID, right?

00:05:22.240 The fact that it has a little star in the corner, is that somehow making the world safer?

00:05:27.260 Like, is anybody out there like, hey, you know, that terror attack would have hit,

00:05:31.220 but boy, I'm glad we have the little star circle in the corner of the driver's license. 0.98

00:05:35.280 This is the most ridiculous thing ever. 0.98

00:05:37.000 So. 0.94

00:05:37.460 This is not nom.

00:05:38.140 There are rules.

00:05:38.660 Yeah, so, but positive, trying to be positive, as I'm standing in the baking sunlight and

00:05:43.800 the pavement, standing outside of the White House, unable to go in, I ran into former NFL

00:05:49.080 kicker Jay Feely, who had a real ID and was able to go in for his meetings, but he's going

00:05:54.400 to be on the show in the second hour because I was like, hey, you just want to come on the

00:05:58.860 show?

00:05:59.200 So I, I booked us a guest while standing in the hot sunshine pavement with my not real ID.

00:06:04.200 All that sweating through your dress shirt was worth it.

00:06:06.700 I just, I think you earned it.

00:06:08.440 So we're going to have Jay Feely on.

00:06:10.020 I spoke to Tulsi, uh, DNI, uh, Gabbard and her staff, uh, again, off the record, but I

00:06:16.640 can just tell you that, um, really good context for us to understand here about some of the

00:06:22.500 moves that the administration is doing.

00:06:24.460 This is really while we're here, touch base with Trump's top team and the people who are

00:06:29.620 making the big decisions.

00:06:31.360 Uh, and we've got some other meetings that are scheduled that we'll be telling you about.

00:06:34.980 Uh, I'm sure you can have some guesses as to who, but the point is we wanted to just have

00:06:39.600 time to speak to everybody.

00:06:41.440 What are you working on?

00:06:42.900 What's happening?

00:06:43.600 What's going on?

00:06:44.200 And to do it in a way where they can just speak freely to us.

00:06:47.040 And look, they know we're, we're openly avowedly pro Trump administration want to see success

00:06:53.960 because really, I truly believe that the success of the Trump administration is the success of

00:06:58.780 the country and the American people.

00:07:00.500 But you always get whenever you're in DC and you can speak to people freely.

00:07:06.280 And again, I said, can we say we've met with you?

00:07:09.440 Yes.

00:07:09.900 But the contents of the discussions were off the record.

00:07:13.140 Um, you get much better exchange because people, even if they trust you, they don't

00:07:19.300 really, they don't really trust anything in this town.

00:07:21.580 So they, they had to keep some of that stuff between all of us.

00:07:24.400 With all that in mind, the president has been talking about this.

00:07:27.440 They had, uh, Les Miserables, um, did I pronounce that?

00:07:30.560 You did.

00:07:30.960 That was pretty, thank you.

00:07:32.140 Thank you.

00:07:32.440 Um, uh, they had the play going on at the Kennedy center last night and the president was asked

00:07:38.240 about this Iran, uh, conflict and, uh, and the issues associated with it.

00:07:43.340 And they've been pulling, you know, this because when you were in the CIA, when they start pulling

00:07:48.440 people out of family members, out of embassies in the middle East, there is a sign that things

00:07:54.180 are not going very well and that there is potentially tension associated with how things could go.

00:08:01.620 And so the reason why I bring that up is it seems to me, Buck, that Israel is ratcheting 0.99

00:08:07.660 up the pressure and really wants to attack and that they want to go into Iran, um, and

00:08:15.340 that they want to do it now.

00:08:16.640 And so again, there's, uh, reportedly a weekend meeting that is scheduled, but it feels to me

00:08:23.720 like the Trump administration is basically letting Iran know, Hey, we're not going to continue to

00:08:29.940 protect you from Israel. 0.97

00:08:31.520 And if we are pulling our people out of the middle East, that is a sign that they don't necessarily

00:08:38.280 know how this meeting is going to go and things could get a lot worse.

00:08:41.480 I will tell you, I think the heat is higher right now with Iran and this it's been, I 1.00

00:08:48.060 understand the Iranian nuclear issue has been playing out for many years, for decades, actually.

00:08:55.100 And now we have, uh, now we have a situation where there's the chance that something would

00:09:04.080 happen and things could get, uh, things could escalate very quickly.

00:09:07.780 Um, I, I am not in favor of a strike on by the Israelis on the Iranian nuclear facilities

00:09:14.600 at this time.

00:09:15.400 The Trump administration is not in favor of an, of a Israeli strike on the Iranian nuclear

00:09:20.140 facilities at this time.

00:09:21.540 Uh, a deal would be much better.

00:09:24.780 And, uh, I think that there's just no general, um, feeling among the American people that we

00:09:33.020 should be drawn into any kind of mid East conflict right now.

00:09:35.760 That's really something that we just, um, for, for most of my adult life, Clay, we've

00:09:40.200 been fighting wars in the middle East.

00:09:41.480 Yeah.

00:09:41.620 It's just too much.

00:09:42.620 And I, I, I, you know, showed up in some of these war zones, did what I could, what little

00:09:46.720 bit I could to help.

00:09:48.060 Um, but this is something that I think really guides the Trump foreign policy on this.

00:09:53.000 And this is going to get, there's going to be some tension around this issue because,

00:09:57.440 uh, there are people that really truly believe that the Iranian regime, uh, is so maniacal,

00:10:06.320 uh, so bloodthirsty that it would use nukes against Israel.

00:10:10.400 I, you know, this is a very, this is where you're playing the highest, uh, the highest stakes

00:10:15.000 imaginable when you're talking about this level of war and peace.

00:10:18.120 But I do think that there's still a realistic and as, and strong might be too much possibility,

00:10:23.860 uh, but a realistic possibility that Trump can get this done without, uh, without this

00:10:28.080 becoming a point of conflict.

00:10:29.820 When you're talking about evacuating embassies, the issue isn't that we would lose war against

00:10:35.080 Iran or that we'd even necessarily be brought into a war against Iran.

00:10:38.760 Um, it's the Iranian capability to engage in terror attacks against us targets all over 0.96

00:10:44.320 the world, which they may just decide to go for effectively go for broke.

00:10:48.720 If those facilities get hit, uh, because it would destabilize the regime, the Iranian people,

00:10:53.540 something that doesn't get talked about in this country, Clay, the Iranian people, as

00:10:57.320 much as we're always told they are very pro Western, they don't like their regime.

00:11:01.600 They do for the greatness of Iran want it to be a nuclear power.

00:11:06.180 This is something that does not get talked about, but the Iranian people want a lot of them.

00:11:12.400 Now you could say, how could you know with the polling?

00:11:14.320 Uh, you know, there's, there are ways that you can, you can assess this stuff, but there's

00:11:19.340 a national pride component of Iran getting this that makes it more complicated.

00:11:24.540 It's not quite as clear a split with the regime on this issue as we would like it to be.

00:11:30.800 Yeah.

00:11:31.480 And look, I think the challenge in general, you understand why Iran wants nuclear weapons 1.00

00:11:36.540 because Kim Jong-un has them.

00:11:38.240 And basically he's preserved his family's ability to rule North Korea for generations 0.58

00:11:44.540 to come, unless somebody internally takes him out.

00:11:47.260 I don't think anybody externally is.

00:11:49.220 Why did Ukraine? 0.91

00:11:50.760 I bet if Ukraine could change one decision they made since the fall of the Berlin wall,

00:11:55.680 I bet it would be not giving up their nukes.

00:11:58.760 Because do you think Russia would have invaded Ukraine if Ukraine kept the nukes?

00:12:02.980 This is unfortunately the, the, uh, takeaway from what happened in Libya, where the, uh,

00:12:09.200 where the Obama and Hillary, uh, administration decided that they were going to engage in this

00:12:15.800 NATO air war to help militias on the ground overthrow.

00:12:18.660 And then of course, Benghazi happened.

00:12:20.300 And we remember some of this history, but, uh, Qaddafi was actually cooperating with the,

00:12:28.400 uh, dismantling of and, and avoiding WMD programs.

00:12:33.100 And we decided, I meaning the U S government, you know what?

00:12:36.300 Not good enough.

00:12:37.020 Uh, and they, they went in and we saw the videos of what happened to Qaddafi.

00:12:41.360 Uh, it's, it's very hard to commit.

00:12:43.440 And by the way, I think it's interesting.

00:12:45.280 I wonder how many people before I just said it now knew that it is, it is just known that

00:12:50.500 the Iranian people want nukes.

00:12:51.780 Like this is not some thing that I have said that is, is a fringe belief or theory.

00:12:56.600 Uh, but it, it makes this a more complicated situation because the Iranian regime has been 0.99

00:13:02.380 promising the security.

00:13:04.500 And, you know, we don't really think of it this way because we're so used to America being

00:13:07.800 the scientific power.

00:13:09.400 We're so used to thinking of America as, you know, of course we have nukes and of course

00:13:13.560 we have, you know, satellites and, and space shuttles and all this amazing stuff.

00:13:17.920 There is a pride in Iran among the people about the achievement, the scientific achievement

00:13:24.140 of being a nuclear power.

00:13:25.340 By the way, this was true in Pakistan as well.

00:13:26.860 Some people actually point to Pakistan and India as, well, they have nukes and they weren't

00:13:30.700 supposed to.

00:13:31.280 And it's a, now that, that gets very contentious because Pakistan and India are not Iran and

00:13:36.160 aren't doing the thing.

00:13:37.060 Oh, Pakistan does some pretty bad stuff. 1.00

00:13:38.580 But, uh, this is a moment where I think we're seeing decisions made on this issue.

00:13:43.780 I don't think Clay, the decision has been made one way or the other.

00:13:48.420 In my mind, that's what I, that's the atmospheric that I pick up.

00:13:51.560 But I will say, just talking to people here in the vicinity of the decision-making process

00:13:56.320 in DC, they're very tense talking about Iran right now.

00:14:00.420 Well, I think that's a hundred percent true.

00:14:02.000 And remember, the motivation, according to multiple reports for why Hamas attacked Israel

00:14:09.020 on October 7th, was that Saudi Arabia was prepared to join the Abraham Accords.

00:14:14.520 And if Saudi Arabia had joined the Abraham Accords, then the peace in the Middle East situation 0.96

00:14:19.840 would have been far more likely.

00:14:22.020 And now that Syria, we have in some ways normalized relations with Syria.

00:14:26.740 Um, I think that Iran is isolated to a degree that may not have occurred in a generation and

00:14:35.300 that this is where Israel believes now is the time to hit them and keep them from having 0.99

00:14:41.480 nukes.

00:14:42.340 Whether the United States is going to agree with that Israeli perspective remains to be

00:14:47.400 seen.

00:14:47.920 But I think Israel is quite clearly behind the scenes advocating as aggressively as possible

00:14:53.480 that now is the time to go.

00:14:55.160 Yes, well, the problem, and I think the Israeli government, I know, Clay, you went and visited

00:15:00.020 and spoke to high-level officials there.

00:15:01.560 But one of their concerns is also that without any fear of any real military direct attack

00:15:09.800 on Iran, does that then embolden the Iranian regime to push its what are essentially imperial

00:15:17.340 and almost colonizing activities by running these different proxy militias in places like Lebanon

00:15:24.160 with Hezbollah and the Shia militias?

00:15:26.900 Why are we so worried about Iraq and the U.S. Embassy in Iraq?

00:15:29.400 Well, it's because the most capable military forces on the ground, when push comes to shove

00:15:34.980 and shove comes to shooting, are Iranian-backed and trained proxy militias, essentially.

00:15:41.400 So this is a huge challenge, a huge problem that we face.

00:15:46.100 And I think that this is a test of the Trump administration's foreign policy and a test of

00:15:52.000 our relationship with, well, allies in the Middle East, Israel first and foremost.

00:15:58.060 So that's absolutely something we'll continue to follow.

00:16:00.320 We'll also dive deeper into the riots, L.A., all that stuff here in just a moment.

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00:17:54.200 We are in Washington, D.C., and in Washington, D.C., you run into different people all the

00:17:59.620 time.

00:18:00.160 And yesterday on the sidewalk outside of the White House, I ran into one of the next congressmen

00:18:05.440 from the great state of Arizona.

00:18:07.880 He is Jay Feeley.

00:18:08.800 Been on before.

00:18:10.260 All right.

00:18:10.560 So you are making the rounds in Washington, D.C.

00:18:13.420 As you get ready for a primary season.

00:18:16.400 What is it like to go from kind of apolitical?

00:18:20.480 I know you have political opinions out there to now being a full bore congressional candidate.

00:18:25.540 What has surprised you the most about the process?

00:18:27.820 The amount of work you have to do fundraising, you know, and I'll be honest, like it shouldn't

00:18:33.200 be about that.

00:18:33.900 We shouldn't have to raise a ton of money because we want our best people in Washington,

00:18:38.940 D.C. representing our country.

00:18:40.980 You know, so it shouldn't be about having to go out and raise money and then whoever

00:18:43.760 raises the most money, they're going to have an advantage.

00:18:45.920 But that's the reality of the system.

00:18:47.560 And so you have to spend five, six hours a day doing call time, calling people, trying

00:18:52.500 to generate those donations.

00:18:54.880 And then they judge you by like how much money you raise.

00:18:57.980 Do you ever have a conversation with somebody where you just want to talk about saving America

00:19:02.300 and having the funds to do it?

00:19:03.960 And they want to talk about that second kick you missed.

00:19:06.700 I'm just wondering, does this ever come up?

00:19:08.400 Yeah, for sure.

00:19:09.480 You know, but, you know, it's kind of fun because I call somebody out of the blue and

00:19:12.680 they actually know who I am.

00:19:14.260 Oh, yeah, you were the kicker or you were the announcer.

00:19:16.280 And so it gives you that avenue to say, yeah, here's what I did.

00:19:19.200 And here's why I'm willing to walk away from an announcing job where I only had to work

00:19:23.160 five months of the year.

00:19:24.120 Yeah.

00:19:24.300 You know, and I got paid well to do it and I love doing it.

00:19:26.480 It was fun.

00:19:27.400 But this is how much I care about my country, that I want to walk away from that job and

00:19:31.240 I want to represent the people of Arizona and D.C.

00:19:33.460 I bet for the most part, this is something that is very hard to do and learn how to do.

00:19:38.060 Ask for money.

00:19:39.180 So hard.

00:19:39.940 Because I hear people who don't.

00:19:41.460 I mean, it's one thing if you're in sales or you're fundraising, things like that.

00:19:44.600 That's a job that some people have.

00:19:46.540 But when I talk to people who have not done politics before, you mentioned it right off

00:19:51.020 the top, the ask for, hey, can you help me?

00:19:54.160 How tough is that?

00:19:55.540 Well, you have to sit there.

00:19:57.000 You don't even get a tax deduction if you're donating to a campaign.

00:20:00.660 Yeah.

00:20:00.820 So it's terrible.

00:20:02.000 But at the same time, the more you do it and when you meet people, I think right now

00:20:05.760 in America, you have two different distinct parties that have completely different views

00:20:09.960 of what America should look like, you know, and they've never been further apart.

00:20:13.780 Not in my lifetime.

00:20:15.340 You know, so I think those people that love our country and that truly believe that President

00:20:18.800 Trump and his America first policies are making our country better, they want to support

00:20:23.080 candidates that are going to support him and that are willing to be advocates and willing

00:20:27.700 to go on TV and aren't afraid of of the blowback.

00:20:30.440 And, you know, that's the kind of guy I am.

00:20:32.240 That's who I'll be in Congress.

00:20:33.400 One of the most important things that you would want to tackle, assuming you win this seat.

00:20:37.940 Well, for for all Americans, I think that was not that was not supposed to be.

00:20:42.120 No, the words there.

00:20:43.540 The tackling thing.

00:20:44.360 That's right.

00:20:44.720 And I love to tackle.

00:20:45.980 So, you know, how many tackles have you made in your career?

00:20:48.700 I think about 50.

00:20:49.900 Oh, that's a lot.

00:20:50.920 No, I was than I would have thought.

00:20:52.380 Oh, I was a guy running down there like I was going to hit you.

00:20:54.740 That was fun for me.

00:20:56.080 Kicking was my job.

00:20:57.080 OK, let's be honest.

00:20:57.780 Tackling.

00:20:58.200 Somebody was when the kicker annihilate somebody.

00:21:01.100 Yeah, the stadium goes insane.

00:21:02.900 And I'm like standing up, jacked up.

00:21:04.900 What was I go back to the side?

00:21:06.280 I'm like, oh, my gosh.

00:21:06.900 What was the best hit you ever had on some Ted Ginn?

00:21:10.020 Oh, question.

00:21:11.100 Yeah.

00:21:11.260 So when you hit Ted Ginn and you laid him out, what is this?

00:21:14.500 Ted Ginn say anything when he gets wrecked by a kicker?

00:21:16.760 Well, I had just been teammates, so I wasn't really hitting Ted Ginn.

00:21:19.500 I was hitting Bill Parcells.

00:21:20.800 But like through Ted Ginn, because I was with the Dolphins.

00:21:25.400 I led the league in field goal percentage, had the best year of my career.

00:21:28.180 And then Bill Parcells came in.

00:21:29.360 They fired everybody.

00:21:30.480 He didn't like that I was the player rep.

00:21:32.340 He didn't like that I did media.

00:21:33.700 He wanted his kicker to go stand in a corner and not say a word.

00:21:36.220 So they cut me and released me after my best year.

00:21:38.740 Oh, wow.

00:21:39.100 So when I was running down on that kickoff against the Dolphins, the next game I played them,

00:21:43.200 I was hitting Bill Parcells.

00:21:44.000 You saw Bill Parcells' face on Ted Ginn.

00:21:45.940 Tony Sprott, yeah, no question.

00:21:47.940 But I literally never broke stride, and Ted Ginn was going out right, and he cut back left,

00:21:52.540 and he cut back right into me.

00:21:54.440 And I hit him and knocked him back about five yards, and that was like the highlight of it.

00:21:58.160 Even better than the touchdown I scored, like that was the moment for me.

00:22:01.080 All right, so what are the issues that you would like to address for America?

00:22:05.280 I think truly the two biggest issues for Americans is border and security, and it's the economy.

00:22:11.160 And when you look at what happened over the last four years with the Biden administration

00:22:14.760 and Democrats in general, they willingly let tens of millions of illegals come into this country 0.99

00:22:19.060 and put politics in front of the protection of the American people.

00:22:22.200 They can't get away with that.

00:22:23.400 They said for four years, we need a bill passed.

00:22:25.500 We can't do anything.

00:22:26.300 We need a bill passed.

00:22:27.340 And then Trump comes in, and in four months, completely closed down the border and secure the border.

00:22:32.040 And so the American people need to hold Democrats accountable for that.

00:22:35.320 They want to ignore it.

00:22:36.440 And all the issues that we're seeing in L.A. and throughout the country,

00:22:39.480 that goes directly back to what they did at the border and the decisions they made to let those people come across.

00:22:45.000 And I'm an advocate for legal immigration.

00:22:46.980 Like I have two kids that we brought legally from Haiti and helped them go to college.

00:22:50.660 You know, so when I stand up there and talk about securing the border and not having illegal immigration,

00:22:54.820 I think we also have to be able to say, hey, it's okay to love immigrants and to want more legal immigration

00:23:01.940 and an easier legal immigration process while being ardently against illegal immigration.

00:23:06.260 I think those two things get conflicted.

00:23:08.420 And then the economy, people just want to be able to look at their future, especially young.

00:23:12.680 My son's here with me.

00:23:13.540 He's on the campaign.

00:23:14.740 You know, just got married.

00:23:16.380 Him looking at buying a house in our district, median house, $450,000.

00:23:20.580 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:23:20.980 You know, it's doubled twice in the last, like, six years out in Arizona.

00:23:24.200 And you see that across the country, this massive inflation.

00:23:27.340 And so you have to find ways to help people, like, believe in their future,

00:23:31.740 believe that I'm going to be able to provide for my family and that I'm going to have a job.

00:23:35.080 And, you know, and I think that's the job of President Trump and the Republicans right now,

00:23:39.620 create a bill that helps everyone, create a bill that helps the economy,

00:23:42.580 that grows the economy and provides opportunity for everyone.

00:23:45.980 You have been in sports for a long time.

00:23:47.980 I saw you weigh in on this.

00:23:49.460 We talked about it earlier the week on the show.

00:23:51.540 She's since apologized.

00:23:53.260 What did you think when Simone Biles went after Riley Gaines? 0.66

00:23:56.840 Obviously, you know, she didn't have the full concept of what she was talking about

00:24:00.940 because now she's pulled back those comments.

00:24:03.200 You know, but as a dad who coached his daughter's high school girls' high school soccer team,

00:24:07.540 you know, they didn't have a girls' team when my daughter was going into high school. 0.97

00:24:10.540 I'm like, that's ridiculous.

00:24:11.580 They said, well, we need a coach. 0.94

00:24:12.560 I said, all right, I'll coach the team.

00:24:13.720 So we started the team.

00:24:15.020 You know, five years later, we win a state championship.

00:24:16.900 But watching those girls and what they accomplished and the opportunities they had

00:24:20.760 and those life lessons, I don't want that taken away from any single girl 0.99

00:24:24.240 because a guy decides, I want to play in girls' sports. 0.94

00:24:27.340 And the argument that they're not biologically better is absolutely ridiculous.

00:24:32.920 It's completely devoid from any rational thinking.

00:24:36.580 And this is important, all right?

00:24:38.100 This is an issue I wanted to dig into since you sat down with us.

00:24:40.920 Now, Klay thinks that in his current state, he could go 1-v-1 against a WNBA player inside.

00:24:49.840 Well, excuse me, I'm setting this up.

00:24:52.000 I don't want him thinking that I'm going to break down Caitlin Clark.

00:24:55.240 He's already hedging, okay?

00:24:56.180 He's already hedging.

00:24:57.200 But he thinks that he could, you know, old man style, use that wide body.

00:25:03.340 Body back or down.

00:25:03.920 Back or down.

00:25:05.200 And take game to 11.

00:25:06.660 I was a pretty good shooter.

00:25:07.420 I didn't say, you said in the past tense.

00:25:10.040 I'm saying, then you should.

00:25:11.140 The only thing I could, Klay thinks, game to 11, he can take Angel Reese

00:25:16.580 and has put up a quarter of a million dollars on this idea.

00:25:18.800 I want to see it.

00:25:19.220 I'll be there.

00:25:20.100 See, but I'm irrational thinking that I could do it, too.

00:25:23.100 Would you back his player or would you hedge against our man, Klay?

00:25:26.540 I think I could go and I could take on the women's U.S. national team in soccer

00:25:30.560 right now at 49 years old as well.

00:25:32.480 I think I could go out there and play with them.

00:25:33.920 You probably could.

00:25:34.600 I mean, you could dominate with your, yeah, you're a professional.

00:25:37.280 I'm an old professional.

00:25:38.500 Voice athletes with vocal cords, studs.

00:25:42.200 So your question is an important one.

00:25:44.760 So the only recent basketball play I have had was against my eighth grade son.

00:25:51.220 Now, he's a pretty good basketball player, but he's probably 5'8", 5'9",

00:25:54.980 so I'm bigger than him.

00:25:56.580 And he's going to be so disappointed that I said this publicly to millions of people.

00:26:00.700 I beat him head-to-head in the backyard.

00:26:02.400 Now, he was really upset that I beat him.

00:26:06.040 So that's the last time that I had him.

00:26:07.360 But that's your job as a dad is to beat him.

00:26:08.960 Absolutely.

00:26:10.020 Some people are like, hey, I'll let him win.

00:26:12.020 No chance.

00:26:12.260 I was like, no, I'm going to make him work.

00:26:14.280 Now, he's had about three or four months since then where he has continued on the upswing

00:26:18.640 and a dad's definitely on the downswing.

00:26:20.520 And the last time I played, I don't know if you know this, in a competitive game,

00:26:24.060 and this is a sad thing, but they have like lawyer basketball leagues.

00:26:27.160 And I played probably seven or eight years ago in Nashville.

00:26:30.540 And I do remember Buck, which is why I'm saying inside.

00:26:33.940 I remember being in a defensive crouch and not a great basketball player against me,

00:26:40.780 crossed me over, and I was like, well, he's going to cross me over.

00:26:44.240 I should take a step to the side so I'm still in front of him.

00:26:47.280 And I just didn't move.

00:26:48.500 You know, like where you have like...

00:26:49.640 The mind and the body were not aligned.

00:26:51.320 I knew what I should do.

00:26:54.060 I was like, all right, he's taking me to the right now.

00:26:55.660 He's going to come back to the left.

00:26:57.160 And I was like, I should just step over.

00:26:59.040 And it didn't happen.

00:26:59.500 There are montages already in the heads of the audience where you've seen Rocky.

00:27:04.040 I'm going to be on the bicycle next to Clay telling him, you know,

00:27:06.940 if he gets this Angel Reese showdown that he wants, I got to train him up.

00:27:11.600 I got to train him up.

00:27:12.140 My eighth grade son's basketball team, they're rising ninth graders now.

00:27:15.540 They're pretty good.

00:27:16.400 And they were like, hey, we will train you.

00:27:18.480 So I play with LPGA girls in golf.

00:27:22.020 Yes.

00:27:22.320 There's a couple of members that I'll play with them.

00:27:24.560 And I can beat them.

00:27:25.900 When I play well, and I'm a two, so not great.

00:27:28.480 You know, but like when I play well and I putt well, I can beat them head to head.

00:27:31.340 That's from playing from the men's tees.

00:27:32.820 That's playing the exact same tees, right, all the way back.

00:27:35.380 Right.

00:27:35.840 So if you take a dude, you know, like my son out here is 22.

00:27:39.140 He's a two as well, but he hits it like 350.

00:27:40.980 You know, if he decided, I want to play in the LPGA tour,

00:27:43.700 and I'm going to identify as a woman.

00:27:45.200 Yeah. 0.99

00:27:45.680 It's ridiculous. 0.95

00:27:46.720 Yeah, I agree. 0.85

00:27:47.120 They would dominate that tour.

00:27:48.280 Just like Serena Williams saying, hey, if I played, you know, the 50th or 100th ranked man, 0.99

00:27:52.340 like I'd get my butt kicked. 0.78

00:27:53.640 I might have to bring your services as an announcer into the mix. 0.95

00:27:57.400 If we do this Clay Angel Reese showdown, if you need to really produce this thing properly.

00:28:02.280 Let's go.

00:28:02.700 Yeah, I will come announce it.

00:28:03.740 By the way, the athletes, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, men in particular, athletes,

00:28:11.600 guys who even played high school, college, or pro,

00:28:14.760 are there any guys that actually think this is okay that you've ever met of any background?

00:28:18.640 I don't think rational men do.

00:28:21.440 You know, you talk about locker room.

00:28:22.680 We talked about this last time.

00:28:23.920 I think maybe 5%, less than 5%, because you know how special sports is,

00:28:29.580 and you know the impact that it has on people's lives

00:28:31.700 and how it can change the direction of someone's life,

00:28:34.420 and I think that's what makes it so special, and you want to protect that for women.

00:28:38.020 It's not saying that I don't love somebody who's transgender.

00:28:40.500 I don't want to see them happy.

00:28:42.100 That's not it at all.

00:28:42.800 You're saying, hey, let's protect sports for women 0.96

00:28:45.100 and make sure that we're not taking something away, an accomplishment from somebody

00:28:49.500 because some guy says, I want to compete in women's swimming 0.95

00:28:52.180 or I want to compete in a women's sport.

00:28:53.940 It's just not right.

00:28:54.620 It's not fair, and it's not safe.

00:28:56.200 Jay, what is your site for Congress?

00:28:57.700 We need those folks to step up and help you in your district.

00:29:01.380 JayFeelyForCongress.com.

00:29:02.340 You can go on there, check it out.

00:29:03.620 You can donate and support.

00:29:04.880 And listen, we're just trying to make this country better.

00:29:06.960 Every day, I think that's why I'm willing to walk away from my job in broadcasting,

00:29:10.220 because I believe in this country, I believe in its future,

00:29:13.400 and I want to be a part of making it better.

00:29:15.320 Through the uprights for America.

00:29:16.940 That's right.

00:29:17.700 Yeah, make America great again, and let's keep it that way.

00:29:20.100 Amen.

00:29:20.540 JayFeely, go check out that site.

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00:30:24.760 Hey, Buck, one of my kids called me an unk the other day.

00:30:27.400 An unk? 0.62

00:30:28.120 Yep, slaying evidently for not being hip, being an old dude. 0.99

00:30:31.440 So how do we un-unk you?

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00:30:52.280 We're playing some of your talkbacks, and you can always leave us messages.

00:30:56.840 Easy way to get through to the show.

00:30:59.280 And a lot of them, as regularly are the case, are fantastic, and we enjoy listening to those.

00:31:05.320 And we've talked a little bit about the fact that the New York City mayor's race is coming up very fast.

00:31:10.260 And by mayor's race, we mean, it's unfortunate, but oftentimes now, whoever wins the primary on the Democrat side is going to be the mayor.

00:31:18.440 New York's current mayor, for those of you who haven't been paying attention, Eric Adams, we don't know exactly what he's going to do.

00:31:25.040 Maybe he's going to run as an independent.

00:31:26.860 He's not running in the Democrat primary.

00:31:29.800 And right now, Andrew Cuomo is the favorite.

00:31:32.500 And we talked about this, and Buck does a phenomenal Andrew Cuomo.

00:31:36.500 Thank you.

00:31:37.140 Buck does a phenomenal Andrew Cuomo impersonation.

00:31:42.620 And I'm going to play.

00:31:44.000 This is actually crazy, because as much as you may think Andrew Cuomo is a crazy man, as much as you may think Andrew Cuomo is not worthy of being the mayor,

00:31:56.280 and Buck, as a former New York City resident, born and raised, you may take this as a crazy take,

00:32:01.980 I actually think Andrew Cuomo is, as Democrat candidates go, maybe the rational, reasonable one.

00:32:11.140 Can you believe this?

00:32:11.940 This is like being told that you have the choice of amputating your hand or both of your legs.

00:32:18.020 You know, this is a very tough decision to be made, and it's not a fun one no matter what.

00:32:22.600 Yeah, it's, you're going to have to chop a finger off, and which one are you going to decide to go with?

00:32:29.020 Yes, I agree.

00:32:30.020 But I want to play for you.

00:32:33.520 This is, I believe, team, make sure that I'm correct on this.

00:32:37.180 This is, I believe, considered to be, again, based on polling, the top candidate against Cuomo.

00:32:43.460 Yes, the name is Zoran Mamadani.

00:32:47.180 Zoran Mamadani.

00:32:48.440 This is the guy who was endorsed by AOC recently that we were talking about yesterday, if I'm not mistaken.

00:32:54.840 Listen to this crazy town perspective that he had.

00:32:58.300 Back in 2020, he said that police should be removed from high crime areas altogether,

00:33:05.780 and that he believes cops should be replaced with social workers.

00:33:11.680 This is how crazy town some of these decisions are,

00:33:15.500 and this is a top candidate to potentially be New York City mayor.

00:33:19.360 Listen to cut one.

00:33:20.760 Do you think that we have to almost do without policing in certain areas,

00:33:26.140 which are labeled to be in high crimes, to have alternative bodies do the policing

00:33:33.080 and a more compassionate, more merciful, more social, you know,

00:33:38.200 assisting and helping more than arresting and putting in jail?

00:33:41.440 I absolutely think that what we need to do is give support and funding to institutions

00:33:47.920 that are trained to deal with these kinds of issues.

00:33:50.080 As you said, if you're having an argument with someone and there's a risk of it escalating,

00:33:54.920 who is better positioned to de-escalate it?

00:33:57.100 Someone who is well-known in the community?

00:33:59.100 That's true.

00:33:59.340 Or someone who has been trained specifically in de-escalation?

00:34:02.040 Or a stranger who has a gun? 1.00

00:34:04.840 This is moronic beyond words. 0.98

00:34:07.980 One of the reasons that this will not be something that New Yorkers go for in this election, 0.98

00:34:15.640 meaning specifically on this issue of de-policing, which is what he was...

00:34:18.560 What year was...

00:34:19.560 That was back in...

00:34:20.220 Oh, okay.

00:34:20.680 20.

00:34:21.060 This is during the crazy town.

00:34:23.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:23.440 Of course, I was going to say.

00:34:24.740 He was saying this because that was what the politics of the moment demanded.

00:34:28.040 As we have seen, and as we know from the numbers,

00:34:30.420 the BLM movement has resulted in substantially more homicides in this country, 0.99

00:34:36.200 disproportionately affecting members of the minority community.

00:34:39.940 So more people, particularly black and brown people, dead than would have been 1.00

00:34:45.320 had they not mounted this campaign to de-police these areas.

00:34:50.040 And here's what's remarkable, I think, about what we've seen and what we've learned since then,

00:34:55.560 not just based on the numbers, Clay.

00:34:57.160 Because of police body cams, these arguments that are made are much more difficult.

00:35:03.500 And because of the proliferation of videos...

00:35:05.440 I'll give you an example.

00:35:06.260 Here we are in Washington, D.C.

00:35:07.320 It was actually a former, I believe, a former Georgetown basketball player.

00:35:10.900 The incident involved is a female. 1.00

00:35:12.500 Yeah, that's right.

00:35:13.060 And she was a former Georgetown University basketball player.

00:35:15.840 And it was a wellness call.

00:35:18.240 So this is the perfect example.

00:35:20.060 A wellness call by a Virginia police officer to check on somebody who was in substantial distress, right?

00:35:28.160 That was the backstory.

00:35:29.820 And when he came to the door, and it's all on video, 0.90

00:35:32.500 she grabbed a large, razor-sharp kitchen knife and tried to kill him. 1.00

00:35:37.740 And he had to shoot her. 0.99

00:35:38.920 And he was entirely justified. 0.93

00:35:40.220 It's very sad that she clearly was having some kind of a mental breakdown,

00:35:43.740 but there's no choice here, right?

00:35:45.000 I mean, if somebody attacks you like that, you have an absolute human right,

00:35:48.660 not just a legal right, a human right to defend yourself.

00:35:51.780 What if a social worker had been there?

00:35:53.500 Well, if a social worker had been there,

00:35:55.040 it would have been a dead body that would have been unable to protect himself or herself.

00:36:00.700 That's just one example.

00:36:02.180 But when you look at the situations that they oppose, that they talk about,

00:36:06.440 oh, we need violence. 0.86

00:36:07.740 Like, this was a thing they used to talk about, violence interrupters.

00:36:10.760 The only person that has any chance of being a violence interrupter

00:36:14.060 is somebody who is on the side of the good guys

00:36:17.260 and can do violence to protect those who are being victimized himself or herself.

00:36:22.380 There's no chance that you're going to call together in the moment

00:36:25.760 some special, you know, healer of the people

00:36:29.600 who's just going to be like, oh, everything's fine, guys.

00:36:31.680 Like, put your guns down.

00:36:33.040 And also, who would want that job? 0.93

00:36:34.940 Totally.

00:36:35.520 It's crazy.

00:36:36.380 Who would want to get called in the middle of the night

00:36:39.000 and told, hey, there's a super violent situation.

00:36:41.580 Can you talk them down with no weapons?

00:36:44.020 Yeah.

00:36:44.360 I mean, is there anybody who wants, I don't want to sign up for that job.

00:36:46.780 You know why?

00:36:47.260 This is, I remember this very much

00:36:49.200 because I was absolutely furious about what was going on in New York.

00:36:53.420 You know, that riot, there was a BLM riot on my block 0.95

00:36:55.760 and shattered all the storefronts and, you know,

00:36:58.460 restaurants had their doors kicked in

00:37:00.060 and their windows broken and stuff like that.

00:37:02.180 And I remember when all this was going on,

00:37:03.760 they were making these kinds of crazy arguments.

00:37:05.780 It was a real mass hysteria moment in the country.

00:37:07.940 It's a true, it was part of COVID, made everyone freak out.

00:37:11.520 And then the left, the street communists used this

00:37:13.920 to get everyone to go crazy.

00:37:15.580 But they made these kinds of arguments then.

00:37:19.880 I don't think they can get away with making these kinds of arguments now

00:37:23.200 because we see what actually happens and what the reality is.

00:37:26.980 Oh, and also when they would say things like,

00:37:28.600 we need violence interrupters,

00:37:30.460 when you would actually talk to these people,

00:37:31.940 this came out, Clay, over time.

00:37:33.180 It was, well, I mean, I need a cop there with me, right?

00:37:36.100 Like, I'm not just showing up between the gang members

00:37:38.960 who are armed, who are about to shoot each other.

00:37:41.060 As if also you can just, it's like a Batman movie

00:37:43.500 where someone just appears, right,

00:37:44.860 when the bad guys are about to do, you know,

00:37:46.580 that's a movie, that's not reality, right?

00:37:48.760 The only thing that really works

00:37:50.620 from a law enforcement perspective, the NYPD,

00:37:53.360 all the data shows this, is you put,

00:37:55.640 they call it cops on dots,

00:37:56.980 more cops in places where bad things are happening

00:37:59.460 so that the, you know, 95% of people

00:38:03.060 who commit no crimes or 99 or whatever the number is,

00:38:06.500 they get to go to work

00:38:07.580 and they get to go to the grocery store

00:38:08.940 and they get to do things safely.

00:38:11.120 And the people that want to commit crimes

00:38:12.560 have to deal with the consequences of their actions.

00:38:14.520 So the point here is the New York City mayoral candidate, 0.94

00:38:16.840 number two, Zoran Mamdadi, is an insane communist. 0.80

00:38:19.500 And the fact that anybody would vote for him 0.99

00:38:21.640 is a total indictment of the insanity

00:38:23.840 of the Democrat electorate in New York.

00:38:25.840 And this is really going to hurt Moses

00:38:27.360 from San Diego at COGO there,

00:38:30.060 where we've been number one for a while, off and on.

00:38:32.900 We appreciate everybody listening in Southern California.

00:38:35.860 He has asked,

00:38:37.300 please don't talk about Andrew Cuomo anymore.

00:38:40.900 And unfortunately, I think he's going to be the mayor.

00:38:43.200 And even more unfortunately,

00:38:45.280 I think he may be the best of a series of awful choices.

00:38:47.940 Listen to B.B. here.

00:38:49.480 Good morning, men.

00:38:50.360 Congratulations on your continued success.

00:38:53.280 Look, do all of us listeners a favor

00:38:55.280 and just summarize 1.00

00:38:56.720 any time that idiot Cuomo speaks. 1.00

00:38:59.840 There has never been a more sanctimonious 1.00

00:39:02.200 and complete... 0.98

00:39:04.080 He is a condescending...

00:39:06.400 Ah!

00:39:07.140 Don't ever play his voice again, please.

00:39:09.940 Moses, I feel like I do not have your vote.

00:39:13.620 Moses, I would like to work for your vote

00:39:16.320 as mayor and as a future presidential candidate

00:39:20.360 under the Democrat ticket.

00:39:22.380 I guess Moses does not believe

00:39:25.020 in Andrew Cuomo's ability to part the Red Sea

00:39:27.500 and lead him to a primrose path of victory

00:39:29.920 in our nation's largest city.

00:39:32.920 But this is the choices we're left with.

00:39:36.120 And I don't even know what the impact would be

00:39:39.020 if this crazy town individual ended up the mayor. 0.95

00:39:43.460 I mean, Bill de Blasio was a disaster. 0.99

00:39:47.200 Horrible.

00:39:47.820 I mean, Bill, the difference between de Blasio and Adams...

00:39:50.900 And remember, I still have half of my family.

00:39:53.040 My parents, my sister,

00:39:54.420 half my family still lives in New York City.

00:39:55.940 So I'm hearing about it all the time.

00:39:57.840 And our team is based out of New York City

00:39:59.680 on radio, right?

00:40:00.900 So the thing with Bill de Blasio

00:40:04.340 was that he made the city suffer

00:40:06.780 and thought it was what we deserved in New York.

00:40:09.420 Whereas Mayor Adams tried to fix it.

00:40:12.320 He's just incapable of doing it.

00:40:14.040 He just isn't up for the job.

00:40:15.460 So it's a different...

00:40:16.760 Both of them are not good enough

00:40:18.500 at what they were trying to do.

00:40:19.760 But with Adams, it was not that much

00:40:22.080 really of an improvement at all.

00:40:24.180 So that was pretty disappointing.

00:40:26.260 But unfortunately, that is the reality

00:40:27.700 that we were facing at that time.

00:40:30.560 So we'll see what happens.

00:40:31.640 We'll get also...

00:40:32.240 Maybe we'll get our buddy,

00:40:33.200 the sage of Staten Island, Joe Borelli,

00:40:34.760 on to talk about what's going on

00:40:36.320 with this mayor's race.

00:40:37.200 Which is happening soon.

00:40:38.240 It's the next big election

00:40:39.840 in terms of the primary.

00:40:41.560 It's going to be in the next two weeks.

00:40:42.700 I think June 24th is that date,

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00:42:25.820 We are continuing

00:42:26.960 to follow very closely

00:42:28.480 these protests and riots.

00:42:31.960 We're going to use

00:42:32.480 those words interchangeably.

00:42:33.600 There are protests

00:42:34.560 and there are riots,

00:42:35.600 so you don't have to correct us

00:42:37.960 when we say protests.

00:42:38.940 We're aware of both

00:42:39.780 of these things.

00:42:40.660 And protest is fine.

00:42:42.120 And as we learned

00:42:42.680 from Caroline Levitt yesterday, 1.00

00:42:43.980 it is a stupid question 1.00

00:42:45.900 for anyone in the press 1.00

00:42:47.000 to say it is President Trump.

00:42:48.240 I like the way she handled that

00:42:49.180 because that was just meant

00:42:50.740 to be an insult.

00:42:51.740 It's like,

00:42:51.980 does President Trump

00:42:52.860 believe in the Constitution? 1.00

00:42:54.680 Like, yeah, idiot. 1.00

00:42:55.420 Ask a real question. 1.00

00:42:56.360 So I like the way

00:42:57.420 that she handled that.

00:42:58.260 That was great.

00:42:58.880 Caroline Levitt.

00:42:59.560 You know,

00:42:59.720 we were on the Levitt train

00:43:01.420 very early here.

00:43:02.420 I'm just saying,

00:43:03.020 we were on the Levitt train

00:43:03.780 when she was running for Congress,

00:43:04.920 so we knew she was going

00:43:05.560 to be a superstar.

00:43:06.840 And here she is.

00:43:07.840 But you had the press

00:43:12.940 trying to make something of this,

00:43:14.760 trying to make it seem

00:43:15.560 like the American people

00:43:16.480 aren't with the Trump administration

00:43:19.120 efforts to enforce the law.

00:43:22.100 And some very interesting things

00:43:24.820 are going on with all this,

00:43:25.960 with these riots,

00:43:26.640 with these protests,

00:43:27.340 all that stuff.

00:43:28.520 First of all,

00:43:30.360 I think,

00:43:31.280 on how this has gone over politically,

00:43:33.280 former Democrat,

00:43:35.900 this is cut five,

00:43:37.160 Bhatia Unger-Sargon. 0.55

00:43:39.860 We've talked about her before here.

00:43:41.140 We had her on the show recently. 0.76

00:43:42.320 Yeah, we had her on the show. 1.00

00:43:44.040 She was on that CNN panel.

00:43:46.300 The only thing worth watching at CNN,

00:43:48.040 doesn't this tell you something, Clay,

00:43:49.400 is the occasional center-right person,

00:43:52.380 sometimes a centrist,

00:43:53.320 sometimes truly right-wing,

00:43:54.560 from Scott Jennings

00:43:55.380 to Michael Singleton,

00:43:56.920 Bhatia Unger-Sargon,

00:43:58.300 Ben Ferguson.

00:43:59.340 The only thing worth watching

00:44:00.700 is the conservative

00:44:01.340 slapping around the libs

00:44:02.480 at that table.

00:44:03.720 Here is Bhatia talking about

00:44:05.780 the deportations

00:44:07.900 and the truth

00:44:08.640 of what Trump promised.

00:44:10.020 Play five.

00:44:10.640 I hear this talking point

00:44:11.860 a lot from Democrats

00:44:13.040 that Donald Trump

00:44:13.960 misled the American people 0.98

00:44:15.660 and somehow said

00:44:16.700 he was only going to deport

00:44:18.180 violent criminals.

00:44:19.760 He said he was going to prioritize

00:44:20.680 violent criminals.

00:44:21.700 At every single rally

00:44:22.680 that I watched,

00:44:24.080 he said,

00:44:25.240 we are going to have

00:44:26.280 the largest deportation operation

00:44:28.440 in American history.

00:44:30.760 And the reason he did that

00:44:31.900 is because

00:44:32.480 that position

00:44:33.480 has majority support

00:44:35.220 with the American people

00:44:36.300 and that position

00:44:37.600 is what got him

00:44:38.740 the majority

00:44:39.820 of working class people.

00:44:41.480 Because immigration 0.98

00:44:42.420 is a topic

00:44:43.660 that divides

00:44:44.360 the working class

00:44:45.320 from the elites.

00:44:46.400 the elites are the consumers

00:44:48.420 of low-wage labor.

00:44:49.500 And when you guys say

00:44:50.300 they're taking people

00:44:51.000 from the community,

00:44:52.240 what you mean is

00:44:53.080 they're taking people

00:44:53.740 from the workforce,

00:44:54.960 people who undercut

00:44:56.340 the wages

00:44:57.000 of American workers,

00:44:58.740 which is why the working class 0.95

00:45:00.040 flipped from the Democrats

00:45:01.580 to the Republicans.

00:45:02.760 two important points

00:45:04.400 he's making that clear.

00:45:05.160 One,

00:45:06.080 Trump promised

00:45:06.800 the biggest deportation

00:45:08.300 operations in history.

00:45:11.120 Prioritizing

00:45:11.520 the worst of the worst offenders

00:45:13.240 doesn't give everyone else

00:45:15.140 a pass in this.

00:45:16.520 It's just,

00:45:17.300 okay, yeah,

00:45:17.700 we're going to focus on

00:45:18.740 getting the,

00:45:20.040 you know,

00:45:20.600 child molesters

00:45:21.560 and, you know,

00:45:22.640 gang members

00:45:23.280 with blood on their hands,

00:45:24.500 get them out of the country 0.99

00:45:25.560 who are illegal aliens first.

00:45:27.380 So that's point one.

00:45:28.800 Trump is doing exactly

00:45:29.940 what he promised,

00:45:30.780 which is why I keep saying

00:45:31.620 everyone says

00:45:32.200 who voted for Trump.

00:45:33.220 Yeah, I voted for this.

00:45:34.140 I mean, I voted for this.

00:45:35.400 And the second part of it

00:45:36.680 is just the exploitation

00:45:38.380 of cheap labor

00:45:39.660 and how central that is

00:45:41.480 to the donor class,

00:45:42.360 to the elites.

00:45:43.240 And this brings me to

00:45:44.700 they're going to have to start

00:45:45.980 enforcing fines

00:45:46.760 against employers

00:45:47.500 with this.

00:45:48.440 They have to come at this

00:45:49.460 which is going to be

00:45:50.840 a little bit of a wake-up call,

00:45:52.580 but it needs to happen.

00:45:53.480 It is illegal

00:45:54.220 if you are employing

00:45:56.140 large numbers

00:45:56.960 or any numbers

00:45:58.140 of illegals

00:45:59.520 in your business.

00:46:00.260 You're not supposed to.

00:46:01.380 Now, someone will say

00:46:02.220 but they have fake

00:46:02.840 social security cards

00:46:03.660 and they have fake.

00:46:04.220 So it's a little more complicated

00:46:05.880 but for the worst offenders

00:46:07.700 you need to do

00:46:08.360 some deterrence enforcement.

00:46:09.740 Yeah, and I do think

00:46:11.040 that the degree

00:46:12.340 to which illegal immigrants

00:46:13.820 have incredibly detailed

00:46:16.660 fake social security cards.

00:46:17.980 You say, okay,

00:46:18.440 well, how does that happen?

00:46:20.320 I don't know

00:46:21.000 how they get them made

00:46:22.080 but social security

00:46:23.680 then gets paid

00:46:25.000 money that never

00:46:26.440 has to go out.

00:46:27.880 So that is

00:46:28.700 some element

00:46:29.620 out there

00:46:30.060 for people who say,

00:46:30.900 okay, well,

00:46:31.200 how does this happen?

00:46:32.180 The money still goes in

00:46:33.480 for payroll taxes

00:46:34.660 except the numbers

00:46:36.480 are not necessarily

00:46:37.800 getting matched.

00:46:38.860 Now, sometimes

00:46:39.500 my understanding is

00:46:40.600 there is identity theft

00:46:42.380 and fraud going on

00:46:43.640 and it's a complicated aspect

00:46:45.440 but yes,

00:46:46.000 that factors in.

00:46:47.200 I thought this was

00:46:48.160 interesting too

00:46:49.000 because they tried to say

00:46:50.680 for a long time,

00:46:51.720 well,

00:46:52.020 there's not actually

00:46:53.420 riots going on in L.A.

00:46:55.040 Remember,

00:46:55.820 Brian Stelter went on CNN

00:46:57.400 and he said,

00:46:58.180 remember,

00:46:58.560 it's very important

00:46:59.400 to note that 99.9%

00:47:01.700 of Los Angeles

00:47:02.560 is having no issue

00:47:04.040 at all

00:47:04.620 and meanwhile,

00:47:06.480 yesterday,

00:47:07.180 L.A. Mayor Karen Bass

00:47:08.580 said,

00:47:09.360 the city has so much graffiti

00:47:11.240 that the vandalism

00:47:13.280 is so extensive,

00:47:14.860 they won't be ready

00:47:16.180 for the World Cup

00:47:17.380 next year.

00:47:18.840 Listen to this cut

00:47:19.800 because it definitely

00:47:21.340 calls into question

00:47:22.500 the talking point

00:47:24.120 that this is a small issue

00:47:26.340 of violent

00:47:27.400 and illegal behavior

00:47:29.920 cut eight.

00:47:30.860 The graffiti

00:47:31.620 that is just

00:47:33.120 blanketing

00:47:34.060 a number of blocks

00:47:35.900 has been extensive.

00:47:37.940 We are one year away

00:47:39.140 from the World Cup.

00:47:40.680 This is about

00:47:41.280 beautifying our city

00:47:42.420 and bringing our city

00:47:43.440 together

00:47:43.960 and so I am calling

00:47:45.840 on business leaders,

00:47:47.120 community leaders,

00:47:48.420 faith leaders

00:47:49.040 to come together

00:47:50.080 downtown

00:47:50.940 in the next few days

00:47:52.600 to talk about

00:47:53.420 how we are going

00:47:54.560 to clean up the city.

00:47:56.080 Obviously,

00:47:56.900 city workers

00:47:57.480 are already out there

00:47:58.600 removing the graffiti

00:47:59.860 but this is so extensive

00:48:01.260 it's going to take

00:48:01.980 community-wide involvement.

00:48:04.280 We had launched

00:48:05.000 a program called

00:48:05.940 Shine L.A.

00:48:07.020 a couple of months ago

00:48:08.100 in preparation

00:48:08.860 for the World Cup

00:48:10.980 and now we are called

00:48:12.560 on to direct

00:48:13.440 that city-wide.

00:48:14.660 We need people

00:48:15.160 from all over the city

00:48:16.340 to come to downtown

00:48:17.520 and to help

00:48:18.300 with this effort.

00:48:19.520 Okay,

00:48:19.980 I got a crazy idea

00:48:20.960 for you, Buck.

00:48:21.660 Maybe the people

00:48:22.440 who did the graffiti

00:48:23.500 as a part of paying

00:48:25.600 penance for their crimes

00:48:27.400 should have to clean up

00:48:28.400 the graffiti

00:48:28.860 that they created

00:48:29.740 instead of asking

00:48:30.840 good people in Los Angeles

00:48:32.320 who had nothing

00:48:33.160 to do with this

00:48:34.000 and L.A.

00:48:35.180 area taxpayers

00:48:36.020 to clean up the mess

00:48:37.240 that they created

00:48:38.060 and frankly

00:48:38.640 that the mayor

00:48:39.580 and the governor

00:48:40.120 allowed to occur.

00:48:41.300 Second part on this,

00:48:42.900 I actually think

00:48:43.720 Trump could

00:48:45.020 come out and say,

00:48:46.840 why does Los Angeles

00:48:47.960 deserve to host

00:48:48.820 the World Cup?

00:48:50.000 I mean,

00:48:50.420 there are lots of cities

00:48:51.540 in red states

00:48:53.160 that are not rioting.

00:48:54.940 You live in Florida.

00:48:56.280 There's a whole heck

00:48:57.020 of a lot.

00:48:57.840 We'll talk about how

00:48:58.540 Florida's happening.

00:48:59.020 We're going to play

00:48:59.340 that cut in a sec

00:49:00.120 from Ron DeSantis

00:49:01.120 as governor,

00:49:01.540 but there's a whole heck

00:49:02.260 of a lot of places.

00:49:03.120 I know some of these cities

00:49:04.420 are already hosting

00:49:05.400 the World Cup,

00:49:06.200 but there are a lot

00:49:07.120 of red states out there

00:49:08.400 where I think Trump

00:49:09.820 could say,

00:49:10.620 why should you reward

00:49:12.420 a city that wasn't able

00:49:13.940 to keep itself

00:49:14.880 from rioting

00:49:15.720 with a World Cup host?

00:49:17.860 You've got a year away.

00:49:18.780 There's a lot of stadiums

00:49:19.780 where you could host games.

00:49:20.880 Well,

00:49:21.020 I also think

00:49:22.080 as somebody

00:49:22.680 who saw firsthand

00:49:24.480 what a visual virus

00:49:28.040 graffiti can be,

00:49:29.320 in New York,

00:49:30.880 and this is,

00:49:31.460 you go back to these movies,

00:49:33.300 whether it's the

00:49:33.940 Charles Bronson

00:49:34.680 Death Wish movies

00:49:35.580 or just,

00:49:36.300 I think,

00:49:37.320 Warriors with the gangs.

00:49:38.920 I mean,

00:49:39.020 all these different,

00:49:39.760 there was just graffiti

00:49:41.840 everywhere,

00:49:43.280 and when I was a kid

00:49:45.500 in the city,

00:49:46.480 you know,

00:49:46.740 early 90s,

00:49:47.760 there was,

00:49:48.360 in the nicest neighborhoods,

00:49:50.620 there was graffiti

00:49:51.660 everywhere,

00:49:52.220 and it was a constant

00:49:53.220 psychological menace

00:49:57.120 of degradation,

00:49:58.680 of barbarism.

00:50:00.020 I know people say,

00:50:00.560 oh,

00:50:00.800 it's just,

00:50:01.260 no,

00:50:01.540 no,

00:50:01.760 no,

00:50:02.300 it's destruction

00:50:03.060 of property,

00:50:04.240 it's lawlessness,

00:50:05.560 it's criminality,

00:50:06.800 and it's just a sign

00:50:08.300 of the criminality

00:50:09.640 that is constantly

00:50:10.400 all around you.

00:50:11.260 It is a visual reminder,

00:50:13.360 the same way that masks

00:50:14.540 during COVID

00:50:15.280 were so important to the left

00:50:17.680 because it was a visual reminder

00:50:19.260 of who was in charge

00:50:20.920 and your mandatory obedience,

00:50:23.220 right,

00:50:23.420 that's what it was.

00:50:24.080 It was obedience training

00:50:25.380 for the masses.

00:50:26.460 When you have graffiti

00:50:27.520 everywhere,

00:50:28.640 it is the psychological,

00:50:31.080 you know,

00:50:31.400 the psychological assault

00:50:34.480 of you're in a lawless place.

00:50:37.160 You're in a place

00:50:37.900 where people don't respect property,

00:50:39.800 where the authorities

00:50:41.020 can't actually protect you,

00:50:43.440 and so I am so adamantly

00:50:46.300 anti-graffiti as a thing.

00:50:48.260 I do not take it lightly.

00:50:49.820 I think that it gets worse

00:50:51.300 and worse and worse

00:50:52.100 in places that allow,

00:50:52.900 I know that it does

00:50:53.660 because I see,

00:50:54.440 and you can turn it around,

00:50:55.780 but you got to be,

00:50:56.680 to your point,

00:50:57.700 you got to be harsh

00:50:58.700 with people who do it,

00:50:59.740 and one of the best ways

00:51:00.700 to do it is,

00:51:01.480 you know what,

00:51:02.160 you can either go to prison

00:51:03.180 or you can spend

00:51:04.380 every weekend

00:51:05.040 for the next six months

00:51:06.200 cleaning up graffiti.

00:51:07.580 Yeah.

00:51:07.780 How about that?

00:51:08.700 Yes.

00:51:08.920 That absolutely

00:51:09.720 is the way that it should be,

00:51:10.900 but it also just goes

00:51:11.820 to the mentality

00:51:12.420 of these people

00:51:13.840 who are involved in these,

00:51:16.400 because if it's all over the city,

00:51:17.660 we're talking about a lot of people

00:51:18.660 who are doing this,

00:51:19.400 obviously,

00:51:20.420 and they think that the laws

00:51:22.160 don't apply to them.

00:51:23.620 And they're often right,

00:51:24.820 unfortunately.

00:51:25.640 Well,

00:51:26.400 I'm hoping that Trump

00:51:27.220 is going to show that

00:51:28.100 at least when it comes

00:51:28.680 to immigration,

00:51:29.340 and I think he is showing this,

00:51:30.560 and this is the whole point,

00:51:31.980 the laws do apply to them,

00:51:34.560 but I'm seeing more,

00:51:35.800 I even saw somebody

00:51:36.620 on Twitter

00:51:37.300 suggesting this,

00:51:39.280 yeah,

00:51:39.520 this is what I say,

00:51:40.900 if these people,

00:51:42.100 if you don't have to be legal

00:51:43.200 in this country,

00:51:43.780 I don't have to pay taxes.

00:51:45.380 Increasingly,

00:51:45.780 and you can make

00:51:46.940 the same arguments.

00:51:48.060 My tax dollars do,

00:51:49.560 I'm a nice person,

00:51:51.380 I don't hurt anybody,

00:51:52.600 but you don't need my taxes.

00:51:53.920 The Treasury Department

00:51:54.740 isn't going to go bankrupt

00:51:55.540 without my taxes.

00:51:56.280 You're going to lock me up?

00:51:57.480 You're going to separate me

00:51:58.320 from my family

00:51:59.000 if I don't pay taxes?

00:52:00.800 Same kind of arguments

00:52:01.700 you can make

00:52:02.200 about illegal immigration,

00:52:04.240 except they're making it

00:52:05.320 for tens of millions of people.

00:52:06.620 But this is the same argument.

00:52:07.760 I'm not hurting anybody,

00:52:09.000 but you're actually breaking

00:52:09.860 the law and you're making

00:52:10.560 a choice to break the law.

00:52:11.640 I also think,

00:52:13.180 Buck,

00:52:13.520 the way that the far left

00:52:15.940 is coming together

00:52:17.020 on these rallies

00:52:18.720 and these riots,

00:52:20.520 this cut we have here

00:52:22.020 from Seattle,

00:52:23.020 there are other cities

00:52:24.140 where people are starting

00:52:25.380 to riot.

00:52:26.120 Listen,

00:52:26.480 I don't know how well

00:52:27.200 you'll be able to hear this,

00:52:28.860 but SPD,

00:52:30.100 Seattle Police Department,

00:52:32.140 KKK,

00:52:33.240 we all know what the KKK is,

00:52:34.840 Ku Klux Klan,

00:52:35.400 and then the IDF,

00:52:37.220 the Israeli Defense Forces,

00:52:39.020 they're all the same.

00:52:40.700 This is a chant right now

00:52:41.980 that's going on in Seattle.

00:52:43.720 This is part of their worldview

00:52:45.400 on the left,

00:52:46.860 connecting all these different

00:52:48.480 aspects of the world.

00:52:50.340 Listen to cut four.

00:52:51.180 Who's street?

00:52:52.380 Our street.

00:52:53.260 Who's street?

00:52:54.180 Our street.

00:52:55.240 Who's street?

00:52:56.140 Our street. 1.00

00:52:57.120 F*** that, SPD. 1.00

00:52:58.320 F*** that, 1.00

00:52:59.360 KKK, 1.00

00:53:00.140 KKK,

00:53:01.500 IDF,

00:53:02.280 they're all the same.

00:53:04.040 Okay,

00:53:04.880 not necessarily

00:53:05.720 the easiest slogan

00:53:06.920 to chant,

00:53:07.620 but Buck,

00:53:08.400 this is indicative

00:53:09.340 of the global worldview

00:53:11.000 that they are trying

00:53:11.800 to bring together.

00:53:12.640 We'll talk about this

00:53:13.360 a bit more.

00:53:14.360 We also have

00:53:15.240 an unbelievable

00:53:16.100 woke white protester

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