Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jun 16 2026

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00:00:04.520 Welcome in Tuesday edition, Clay and Buck.

00:00:07.540 Hope all of you are having fantastic starts to your day.

00:00:11.780 Let's try to make it a little bit better than it otherwise would have been.

00:00:17.080 We have continued plummeting oil and gas prices.

00:00:22.220 They are now down to $75 a barrel.

00:00:26.020 Putting it into perspective, around $68 was the price of oil and gas when the war with Iran started at near the end of February.

00:00:37.660 What does that mean?

00:00:39.400 $3 a gallon gas is coming sooner rather than later.

00:00:45.320 Iran agreement has still not been released.

00:00:48.280 President Trump is in France for the G7.

00:00:52.540 We will follow all of that.

00:00:54.560 stocks on the Dow setting another record high today going over 52,000 on the Dow S&P 500 mixed

00:01:04.580 but again biggest story in terms of how your pocketbook is going to be impacted oil and gas

00:01:11.800 back down to $75 a barrel $3 on average gallon of gas is on the way and it will be there I believe

00:01:21.800 by the fall it will take some time but you will see those numbers on your local gas stations

00:01:28.440 plummeting rapidly i was driving around near my house saw a three dollar and fifty cent uh gallon

00:01:37.220 of gas starting to appear uh all over the uh suburban nashville area uh and i believe that

00:01:44.800 much of that is going to continue all over the country even in california things will go back 0.99

00:01:50.540 to being comparatively affordable unfortunately for you those of you in california the morons 0.98

00:01:56.380 running your state insist that you pay several dollars oftentimes more per gallon than the 0.98

00:02:02.260 average in the rest of the country um so we're going to continue to follow all of that uh there's

00:02:08.220 also been there's a drone plot and charges that have been brought surrounding uh ufc 250 we kind

00:02:16.080 have touched on that a little bit that is the white house fight that happened uh on sunday night

00:02:20.860 we may get into that during the course of the program a bit but i wanted to start with this

00:02:26.800 um as we are sitting and uh beginning the show here spacex is right now the they had the biggest

00:02:36.200 stock offering in the history of the united states on uh friday company went public spacex stock is

00:02:45.420 right now uh right around two hundred and four two hundred and thirteen dollars a share company

00:02:51.300 went public i believe at 135 it has now got a market cap of 2.79 trillion one of the biggest

00:03:00.200 companies in the world there's a lot of optimism surrounding it and elon musk on friday when this

00:03:07.720 company went public he has around roughly half of overall spacex equity and so he became a

00:03:14.720 trillionaire when this company went public and there were a lot of reactions on Friday I wasn't

00:03:20.480 on with you I was traveling I was taking my 11 year old to the U.S. versus Paraguay soccer match

00:03:27.780 but I was following the stories I was actually flying from Florida to LA and I had Fox Business

00:03:33.880 up on the screen in front of me because I wanted to kind of follow the story of SpaceX and I was

00:03:39.480 also on my phone and i was watching what was being said and i thought as spacex went public

00:03:46.260 on friday we actually got a perfect window into what the two respective parties stand for

00:03:55.160 and there were a lot of different senators upset on the democrat side who were attacking elon musk

00:04:02.560 but i grabbed one of them because he's been in the news so much graham plattner who is now the

00:04:08.580 nominee for the Democrat Party. He's got a sorted background. I'm sure we'll be talking about it a

00:04:13.580 lot. Buck and I will between now and when we actually get to the midterms. Buck, by the way,

00:04:20.340 out with his family again today. He is scheduled to be back on Thursday. So you got me today and

00:04:26.380 tomorrow as well. And I think Buck will be back with us on Thursday. I, by the way, will be up

00:04:31.020 in D.C. on Wednesday and Thursday. So I'll be in our D.C. studios there. But Graham Plattner tweeted,

00:04:37.520 Elon Musk just became the world's first trillionaire let's make sure he's also the last

00:04:47.180 now there's obviously an implicit threat here because unfortunately in this era in which we

00:04:54.520 live there are a great deal of threats that are constantly being levied against many people

00:05:00.300 that are on the right even though elon voted for uh hillary clinton i believe he may have voted

00:05:08.840 i'm pretty sure that he voted for joe biden elon didn't vote republican until 2024 he is just on

00:05:16.400 the path that actually a lot of you out there are on the one that i was on buck was uh super

00:05:23.000 conservative when he was 12 I was not it took me actually going through what life is like and then

00:05:31.580 frankly COVID radicalized me in a way that I still am not comfortable with what happened in COVID

00:05:40.280 I'm still angry about it but I would say I was several years ahead of the path that Elon Musk

00:05:46.560 himself has ended up on and that frankly many of you listening to us right now have been have gone

00:05:52.980 through and been on but Elon Musk just became the world's first trillionaire let's make sure

00:05:59.040 he's also the last so let's just pretend that there isn't an implicit threat against Elon there

00:06:05.020 and let's just focus on what Graham Plattner said because I think it's illustrative of the

00:06:10.400 modern democrat party and it's very important to think about it uh the context here we should want

00:06:17.420 tons of trillionaires when i see that elon musk became the world's first trillionaire

00:06:24.740 i talked to my oldest son who is very entrepreneurial and elon musk is in many ways

00:06:32.560 his idol his hero his aspirational figure in the public eye that he would look up to

00:06:38.720 and he said boy i would like to be a trillionaire one day should it we want elon musk to be the

00:06:47.300 first of many trillionaires i think it's an extraordinary success story that elon musk

00:06:54.760 decided hey i want to spend send rockets to space better than anyone ever has before in the history

00:07:04.800 of mankind i think i can build a company that is better at sending rockets to space than nasa is

00:07:12.300 and he did it despite the fact that nasa had around a 70 some odd year head start on him

00:07:19.340 he also redesigned the way that we propel cars with electric awesome i told you i bought a tesla

00:07:28.460 i love it i let it self-drive me i let it self-drive my family i drove to knoxville

00:07:33.780 tennessee recently i was talking about how awesome bucky's uh is i stopped and plugged in

00:07:40.040 and charged my Tesla at the crazy buckies that all the European visitors are just blown away

00:07:48.060 by how incredible it is. The Democrat Party in general, they want to look at the world

00:07:56.220 as one big pie that is not growing. And they just want to take from others.

00:08:05.540 meanwhile the elon musks of the world and i think many of you out there and certainly

00:08:12.880 i would put myself in this category we want to build a bigger pie we believe that the way for

00:08:20.560 everyone to have a better life is not to be envious of the existing pie and reallocate the

00:08:27.760 slices as if there's never going to be any more i'm going to take what i get you are not able

00:08:34.900 to ever get it's a constant battle for uh resources that are never growing what the

00:08:42.380 republican party looks at is says we should we should make bigger pies everyone in the entire

00:08:49.060 country should get a bigger slice of prosperity the way we do that is by growing and the democrat

00:08:57.660 party is very fixed they have this idea that all of the wealth that's ever going to exist

00:09:05.620 is here now and it's just a big fight over that limited pile how do we reallocate the resources

00:09:12.660 and i i also think there's just a poor job of communication in general that republicans do

00:09:20.900 some people will say elon musk got a trillion dollars he's greedy why is it greedy to want to

00:09:29.900 keep your money but it's not greedy to try and take someone else's money

00:09:35.540 it's really interesting when you think about it from a communication perspective

00:09:41.560 isn't it we out there who see Elon Musk as the first trillionaire and think boy I hope there's

00:09:51.520 tons of kids out there that look at the economic success that Elon Musk has done and they think to

00:09:58.400 themselves I want to do that too if Elon can do it maybe one day I can do it too seeing someone

00:10:08.300 do something spectacular is often what propels other humans to engage in incredible success.

00:10:16.660 There's a lot of examples of this, but one of my favorite is Roger Bannister. Nobody could break

00:10:23.020 a four-minute mile. Roger Bannister finally did it. As soon as Bannister did it, a bunch of other

00:10:31.240 people did too. Why? Because the belief that you could do it, once you saw someone do it,

00:10:41.500 many people out there thought, oh, I can do that too. Aspiration, seeing success is a huge part

00:10:51.380 of being successful. I've written five books. When I was a kid, I used to go into bookstores

00:10:59.040 and I would go to the section of the bookstore where my last name was

00:11:05.380 and I would think, oh, that's where my book would be on the bookshelves.

00:11:11.440 Right here, I'd go down to the letter T.

00:11:13.780 I would go down right through and I would think one day my book is going to be right here.

00:11:21.320 Visualizing and believing in success is a huge part of being successful.

00:11:27.460 taking your kids to go to a book signing like my mom and dad did back in the day

00:11:34.800 seeing an author oh he did this oh she did this i can do this too one day

00:11:41.980 democrats look at the success of elon musk and they think we must take from him and give to

00:11:50.360 others republicans see the success of elon musk and they think and i hope you're raising your

00:11:56.140 kids and your grandkids like this you could do this too one day Graham Plattner says let's make

00:12:02.920 sure he's the last trillionaire I think let's make sure that Elon Musk is the first of many

00:12:09.360 trillionaires I would love if a generation from now there were 30 American trillionaires or 40

00:12:17.720 or 50 or a thousand because if there are a ton of trillionaires in the United States

00:12:24.420 then our economy is expanding like crazy, and that pie is growing,

00:12:29.660 and everybody is going to have the ability to have more.

00:12:34.040 You don't build by taking.

00:12:37.220 You build by growing.

00:12:39.600 We need more builders in the United States.

00:12:42.380 Frankly, we need more politicians who have an entrepreneurial mindset

00:12:46.460 and think about building instead of merely reallocating that which is already built.

00:12:53.820 And so I don't know how many people have seen these quotes and really thought about them in depth, but I think it's a perfect distillation of where the parties are.

00:13:04.540 We want to take what others have built.

00:13:07.040 That's the Democrat Party.

00:13:08.580 We want to create an opportunity for others to build as Elon Musk has built.

00:13:14.120 That's the Republican Party.

00:13:15.920 It's a it's a really important distinction.

00:13:19.180 And I thought on Friday, as we saw Elon Musk become the first trillionaire, how people responded to that is actually a perfect window into the souls of the party.

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00:15:38.900 Welcome back in.

00:15:39.920 Hour number two, Clay and Buck.

00:15:41.560 Buck will be back on Thursday.

00:15:43.340 he's out with his family for the next several days means you and me and all of us are hanging

00:15:49.460 out together and we are having a good old time so far we're going to be joined by nicole parker here

00:15:57.760 in a moment a couple of different things that are going on president trump remains in france

00:16:04.240 meeting with the g7 we have collapsing oil and gas prices down to about 75 a barrel what does

00:16:12.960 that mean for you that means that the average price of oil and gas uh will be soon back down 1.00

00:16:21.240 to around three dollars and fifty cents a gallon on average across the nation uh again that's on

00:16:28.160 average you might pay more or less depending on what state you are in but that is going to be

00:16:33.820 moving rapidly back towards the three dollar a gallon average that the price of oil and gas was

00:16:40.560 trending uh towards right about time the war in iran started so uh that is economic relief that

00:16:48.140 is coming in your direction as those have continued to come down we wait for further details

00:16:53.180 on the iran deal overall i would point out to you that it is remarkable how when oil and gas prices

00:17:00.640 come down cnn and msnbc which have had regular tickers of oil and gas prices going up suddenly

00:17:09.260 remove that storyline from their overall uh television network uh we bring in now nicole

00:17:16.500 parker former fbi agent she's been on several times there's a big news story out that up to

00:17:23.400 i believe the number is 15 different individuals uh were involved in a plot to try to attack

00:17:31.600 the ufc 250 event that took place on sunday night at the south lawn of the white house

00:17:37.620 uh nicole you were there uh let's start with what these uh accusations are and uh and then we'll get

00:17:45.760 into what the event itself was like what can you tell us about the information that is out there so

00:17:50.960 far sure so first of all uh the sbi and law enforcement learned of this alleged spot on june

00:17:58.180 10th for the event uh the usc 250 event which took place on june 14th so there wasn't a lot

00:18:04.420 of time in that short window between the 10th and the 14th. And this is a huge, I commend law

00:18:09.900 enforcement for acting very swiftly. So far, five individuals have been arrested. It involved 12

00:18:16.060 FBI divisions across the country. So this is not just limited to one area. Two of the individuals

00:18:20.960 that were known of in the arrest affidavit are from the state of California. One is from Ohio,

00:18:24.980 and they have not yet released information on the other two individuals. But they did,

00:18:29.880 they acted very swiftly on this. And through the course of the investigation and executing a search

00:18:34.340 warrant. It was discovered on one of the suspect's iPhones, a chat signal involving signal and 23

00:18:41.380 individuals were involved in this. And we're talking about this alleged plot. So the prime

00:18:48.820 target was obviously the White House, the 250th birthday of the United States. This is a high

00:18:55.220 profile celebration. And so again, it's a target rich environment for those that want to wreak

00:19:00.980 havoc and caused harm on Americans. And frankly, they were charged with conspiring to murder

00:19:06.580 people. These individuals wanted to kill individuals that were there to celebrate

00:19:10.200 America's 250th birthday at the UFC fight. So again, you've got to think about it. It's an

00:19:15.000 iconic location being the White House. Very large group of people, 4,000 on the White House lawn and

00:19:21.740 another 80,000 at the Ellipse. There were a huge number of military in attendance, okay? These are

00:19:28.100 the post-patriotic warriors you're going to find in our nation and so it's highly symbolic this is

00:19:33.540 the heart of freedom it's the white house it's the military it's america's 250th birthday so make no

00:19:38.820 mistake about it this was very well planned a lot of thought went into this a lot of preparation

00:19:44.980 and again it was happened to be trump's birthday as well so this these individuals who plotted

00:19:50.260 this thought you know this is going to be a place where it symbolizes capitalism billionaires i

00:19:54.740 I saw Mark Zuckerberg there myself, you know, people that they did not want to see celebrating.

00:20:00.580 And there's also word out there that they believe that Epstein was involved in that.

00:20:04.540 You know, these elites in America are protecting Epstein and they wanted to get back at those individuals.

00:20:09.260 And so they literally planned to kill these individuals.

00:20:13.720 Again, the extensive planning, they took explosives.

00:20:16.860 They planned to take explosive laden drones and attack the nearby buildings in the vicinity.

00:20:21.440 and then that would trigger a mass evacuation with people running to get out,

00:20:27.160 bottlenecking individuals, and so they knew where those sniper zones would be.

00:20:30.780 So first they would attack the nearby buildings with the drones.

00:20:33.380 Then there would be a mass evacuation. 0.89

00:20:34.760 So the snipers would come in and target those individuals, shoot them,

00:20:38.800 and then these individuals plan to storm the White House gates

00:20:42.440 and actually enter onto the property.

00:20:45.400 There's word that there was planning going on,

00:20:47.380 that they had planned to go to Fredericksburg, Virginia on June 12th and June 13th, leading up

00:20:53.220 to the event. And I think what's very important to know in this instance, there were relatives,

00:21:00.460 family members of those that were planning this, who got word that their loved one may have been

00:21:05.500 involved in planning a various act in Washington, D.C., and they've reported it to law enforcement.

00:21:10.920 How much, Nicole, do you think we should be concerned? I mean that.

00:21:15.200 How much, Nicole, do you think we should be concerned about the idea of drone attacks in general?

00:21:21.080 Much of the, I think it's fair to say, security apparatus surrounding the White House and surrounding all of our people in prominent positions has been predicated largely on gun attacks.

00:21:33.840 What can we do to try to prevent gun attacks?

00:21:36.520 now that the drone technology has become so advanced we have to kind of begin to prepare

00:21:43.120 for the fact that new attacks may come in a variety of ways including via drone correct i

00:21:50.280 believe that again in my time at the fbi it was ramping up in my opinion to be one of the top

00:21:54.920 number one threats because you can attach anything to a drone you can uh explosive devices you can

00:21:59.420 even attack a firearm you can use so much from a drone and again this was an outdoor space area

00:22:04.740 obviously drones are a serious threat and a concern to law enforcement the fbi is all over

00:22:10.580 they've come out with new technology to be able to detect the drones stop the drones um and you

00:22:15.640 know we're looking at ufc 250 we're looking at all of the 250 celebrations so we're also looking at

00:22:20.680 all the world cup those are all outdoor stadiums these huge soccer arenas that are taking in

00:22:25.420 millions of people so you ask a very important and poignant question drones are at the top of

00:22:30.420 a list of things that could wreak absolute havoc be destructive and frankly harm and kill individuals

00:22:36.420 and so it's important for law enforcement to be 100 steps ahead of that and to be able to detect

00:22:41.740 this and to stop it before it happens thankfully in this instance again like i said a family member

00:22:46.460 a relative heard about a potential accident their loved one was going to carry out they reported it

00:22:51.140 to law enforcement and they acted swiftly and quickly and they were able to foil this plot

00:22:55.960 You were fortunate that they were able to stop it.

00:23:00.960 What was the event itself like?

00:23:03.920 As someone who has been to a lot of big sporting events,

00:23:06.760 I've been to a lot of them, you've been to a lot.

00:23:09.320 How would you contextualize it?

00:23:10.920 You were there.

00:23:13.320 I have been to the World Series, NBA Finals, the Masters, the U.S. Open,

00:23:19.840 Super Bowl events.

00:23:21.340 I would say it's at the top of the list, Clay.

00:23:23.120 I would. I would say the energy, the enthusiasm, the vibe, the location, it was the most epic thing

00:23:31.400 I've ever experienced. I'd never been to a UFC fight before. It exceeded my expectations in

00:23:37.560 every possible way. But when I went to that event, I knew going into it, again, I'm an agent. So

00:23:44.100 once an agent, always an agent. It's not that I'm a paranoid individual, but I'm smart. I keep my

00:23:48.320 head on the swivel and I'm aware of all the threats that could be going on. I knew that this could be

00:23:52.000 a very, you know, high target environment for potential attacks. I always know how I'm going

00:23:59.500 to get out of there if something happens. And again, that's not living in fear. That's actually

00:24:03.980 being smart. You've got to have your head on the swivel. You've got to know your environment,

00:24:07.240 how you're going to get out of there and what you're going to do. But it was incredible. There

00:24:11.560 were amazing warriors there. Like I said, there were first responders, law enforcement, military,

00:24:16.620 just the energy it's unmatched the live band the the music the fights themselves um i thought it was

00:24:25.140 absolutely epic iconic and like i said probably the most powerful sporting event i've ever

00:24:31.160 experienced in my life that is awesome um nicole we appreciate the time and uh look forward to

00:24:39.000 to having you back on when uh other of these charges potentially come down absolutely my

00:24:44.600 pleasure and everyone be safe god bless america thank you thank you that's nicole parker former

00:24:50.680 fbi agent let me hit a couple of your calls here as we get ready to go to break some of you been 0.83

00:24:55.840 waiting uh karen in salt lake city what you got for us karen i just think these liberals forget

00:25:03.420 about the entrepreneurs and how they invest in the communities i mean here in salt lake city we

00:25:10.140 have the john huntsman center at the university of utah campus we have echo centers all over the

00:25:15.560 place for theaters and the arts larry miller i was working at the salt lake community center

00:25:22.200 and i was working with the liberal he didn't even get the fact that he was employed at a place that

00:25:28.600 an entrepreneur had built and donated the salt lake uh community centers the delta center the

00:25:36.320 Maverick Center. I mean, you think of everything that would be missing if we didn't have these

00:25:41.040 entrepreneurs that were donating to the community. Thank you for the call. I think that is a fantastic

00:25:47.740 point. And I have not seen a lot written about that yet. But as many of these individuals with

00:25:55.300 huge amounts of wealth that they are going to make associated with SpaceX, as many of them go

00:26:01.400 through the process of selling their stock in addition to paying substantial amounts of tax

00:26:08.220 roughly 20 some odd percent capital gains tax for most of this many of them are going to make

00:26:14.080 huge charitable donations the likes of which many people are not even comprehending i mean go back

00:26:21.420 to the day stanford was a uh was a huge uh entrepreneur vanderbilt the cornelius vanderbilt

00:26:30.360 You go back and look at when these universities were founded and what the impact of some of the dollars have been for generations.

00:26:41.020 Great wealth leads to great donations.

00:26:45.820 It's not the government that spends money effectively.

00:26:49.920 Unfortunately, the government wastes a lot of the money.

00:26:52.060 But many of these entrepreneurs then embody an entrepreneurial mindset when they think of how to make donations.

00:27:00.360 to further the advantages.

00:27:02.960 I mean, Elon has actually talked about this,

00:27:06.180 and I think Jeff Bezos said this recently in a CNBC interview.

00:27:10.100 I thought he was fantastic when he said it.

00:27:12.300 He said, we have to consider that building these companies

00:27:15.540 is in many ways a generational gift that is being made to the American public.

00:27:22.500 I mean, just think about it.

00:27:24.620 Jeff Bezos, Amazon.

00:27:26.620 Right now, while I'm talking to you, when I go to this commercial break, I can go on and basically order anything on the planet Earth and it will be delivered to my house in the space of a day.

00:27:40.700 I don't have to get into a car. I don't have to drive anywhere that we thankfully have people to deliver these packages.

00:27:48.880 The amount of jobs that have been created there is huge.

00:27:52.220 But think about the efficiency of Jeff Bezos' creation

00:27:55.880 and how much time and energy and effort it has saved so many people across America.

00:28:03.440 I mean, for those of you out there that have babies,

00:28:07.040 think about suddenly you know you're going to need diapers,

00:28:10.140 you're tired, you're laying in bed, and you're thinking to yourself,

00:28:13.320 oh, man, I haven't gotten any sleep at all.

00:28:16.060 I've been working all day.

00:28:17.020 I've been taking care of this baby.

00:28:18.880 Boom, you can get formulas sent right to your house.

00:28:22.040 You can get diapers sent right to your house.

00:28:23.940 There's a decent chance when you wake up the next morning,

00:28:26.880 they're already going to be there.

00:28:29.040 That's unbelievable.

00:28:30.360 Now they're delivering things with drones.

00:28:32.100 I'm incredibly optimistic about what unleashing the entrepreneurial spirit of America

00:28:39.360 is really going to create in the next generation.

00:28:44.580 and the result is going to be everybody is going to have more

00:28:50.500 if we let entrepreneurs build in this country.

00:28:54.740 If, unfortunately, we let the Graham Plattners and the Elizabeth Warrens

00:29:00.500 and the AOCs and the Bernie Sanders of the world come and try to take from them,

00:29:05.540 I want to come back to the example I gave you about Elon with PayPal.

00:29:09.080 Imagine if we had draconian capital gains taxes

00:29:12.920 when Elon Musk made $100 million on PayPal.

00:29:17.300 If the government had taken 60% of that money,

00:29:20.900 he's left with $40 million.

00:29:23.000 He doesn't have the resources to found SpaceX

00:29:25.460 and build a company that's worth trillions of dollars.

00:29:28.940 Get out of the way and let individual excellence, 0.98

00:29:33.460 people who build jobs and build wealth, let them cook.

00:29:38.580 When we come back, I'll take some more of your calls.

00:29:40.680 We'll get some more of your talkbacks.

00:29:41.840 and i'll dive into a bit maybe before the show is over about the testimony that that i gave last

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00:30:44.900 preset your pals clay and buck on the iheart app welcome back in our number three tuesday edition

00:30:51.960 clay and buck appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we are rolling through the program

00:30:56.880 buck will be back on thursday he's out with his family for a few days so i'm hanging out with you

00:31:02.520 guys for the rest of this show as well as tomorrow i will be up in washington dc tomorrow uh for

00:31:10.080 wednesday and thursday uh news right off the top here in the third hour price of oil and gas has

00:31:16.880 plummeted as we await further details on the iran peace agreement down to 75 dollars a barrel on the

00:31:25.800 july 26th crude futures going forward to contextualize that for all of you uh 68 dollars

00:31:34.260 was the price of oil and gas in the world when we went into iran on the first place

00:31:42.040 at that point in time the price of oil and gas was around three dollars a gallon it will soon be

00:31:49.080 back down to below four dollars a gallon and you will soon i believe based on these prices be paying

00:31:56.440 around three dollars and fifty cents a gallon on average so the storyline of oil and gas prices are

00:32:04.720 going to destroy president trump it's given up the ghost how do i know that because on cnn am and

00:32:11.560 msnbc there now is virtually zero discussion whatsoever about anything having to do with

00:32:19.460 the price of oil and gas but for those of you out there that have been supremely concerned about

00:32:26.060 that and i know there are very many of you that storyline is collapsing spacex we talked about

00:32:33.280 this off the top awesome story spacex up again today it is approaching three trillion dollars

00:32:40.120 in market value one of the great all-time american capitalistic success stories and i started off the

00:32:47.580 program discussing the fact that graham platner said elon musk this is from friday uh but friday

00:32:54.300 afternoon elon musk just became the world's first trillionaire let's make sure he's also the last

00:32:59.600 and to me the success story of elon musk is emblematic of what is the most amazing about

00:33:06.460 america in general which is the pioneer spirit the frontier dynamic the idea that we can build

00:33:12.800 things that have never been built before and i want to build a little bit with that in mind

00:33:17.120 on what i was saying off the open uh that there are takers and there are builders in the world

00:33:23.640 and the democrat party essentially is a taker based community they believe that everything

00:33:30.380 is fixed out there and they have a right to take from others and give and redistribute that wealth

00:33:36.640 as they see fit the other dynamic that is i think characteristic of the republican party is the

00:33:43.500 builder dynamic and i spend a lot of time thinking about this now because i think it's so consequential

00:33:49.040 and so significant um what are you building i think this is something that all of us can think

00:33:56.900 about every single day what are you building are you building a better version of yourself

00:34:04.100 are you taking individual responsibility to build a better version of your family

00:34:07.760 are you building things physically are you building things mentally what are you creating

00:34:13.460 that is better than it was the day before elon musk is the greatest builder of companies

00:34:21.600 in the history of the world i don't think that's hyperbole um if you look at what he has done with

00:34:29.540 tesla if you look at what he has done with spacex he is 53 years old i believe and i would imagine

00:34:36.860 that he feels like he has another good 10 15 20 years of building that he is going to be able to

00:34:43.980 accomplish he has fundamentally changed the world for the better in my opinion now uh think about

00:34:51.700 what he took on i i just think his story is crazy but i don't think it's being talked about enough

00:35:01.680 this is a kid who came here from south africa who started with virtually nothing

00:35:08.820 who made $100 million, and this to me is the most interesting part

00:35:13.760 of the whole Elon Musk story.

00:35:15.820 He started PayPal.

00:35:18.000 He made $100 million.

00:35:21.340 And I think if we had Elon on the program right now,

00:35:24.160 he'd say he did some immature things.

00:35:26.300 He bought a Ferrari.

00:35:28.000 So you would kind of expect a guy in his 20s who gets rich,

00:35:31.140 what's he going to do?

00:35:31.800 He's going to buy an expensive car.

00:35:34.320 He wrecked that expensive car, nearly killed himself,

00:35:37.700 flip to the Ferrari driving too fast.

00:35:41.380 But then at some point in time, he did something interesting.

00:35:44.260 He said, I'm not just going to tap out with my $100 million.

00:35:48.500 And think about how easy it would be if you had $100 million to just say,

00:35:54.160 you know what, life is hard.

00:35:56.940 I'm just going to live a hedonistic lifestyle now.

00:36:00.820 $100 million, you invest it, just conservatively,

00:36:04.960 it can throw off five six million seven million dollars a year pretty easy and you don't even

00:36:11.620 hardly have to touch your principal i think most of you out there could say hey for six million

00:36:16.800 dollars clay i could live a pretty good lifestyle i could live a pretty easy lifestyle

00:36:21.360 elon musk wasn't willing to do that because he had pioneer spirit frontier dna fearlessness built

00:36:29.540 inside of him he said i'm gonna put the whole hundred million and i'm gonna do a rocket company

00:36:37.300 and there's an article i was reading the other day one of his best friends said all of their

00:36:42.420 friends got together and sat around and told elon you're crazy this is a really bad idea

00:36:49.040 you're not going to be able to build rockets better than nasa has built rockets

00:36:56.500 and elon was frustrated there's a story he went to russia to try to buy a rocket because he wanted

00:37:03.620 to try to get to mars and seed mars with plants to try to create a uh a thriving environment a

00:37:12.520 new biodome this is more complicated certainly than i can get into the logistics scientifically

00:37:18.020 but there was no rocket ship to buy and so they had to decide okay what are we going to do

00:37:27.140 what is the solution here and so they decided we're going to build a new rocket

00:37:38.000 now think about how amazing that is nasa has built all these rockets

00:37:45.160 everyone out there has had no success basically the entire space program has been frozen

00:37:54.880 since we went to the moon elon has a hundred million dollars he says i'm gonna put all this

00:38:02.120 into the center of the table and i'm gonna risk it all and oh by the way while we're doing this

00:38:10.220 i'm also going to get involved with tesla and i'm going to try to create the first successful

00:38:18.980 american car company in something like 80 years other than gm chrysler and ford all of them had

00:38:27.440 gone bankrupt there hadn't been a successful american new car company in forever

00:38:32.580 and he took such a risk that it wasn't very long ago both of those companies were on the very edge

00:38:44.980 of going bankrupt he had to pull every possible stop out there in order to avoid not just one

00:38:53.840 company but both going completely bankrupt and he even said that he thought when he started

00:39:01.940 spacex i think maybe we got a 10 chance of succeeding the first i believe it was three

00:39:08.420 rockets that spacex tried to launch all of them exploded and failed and he said if the fourth i

00:39:17.800 believe this is true team if you can look this up i believe the story is he said if the fourth

00:39:22.220 doesn't work we're going to have to shut down the entire company and there's a photo of elon

00:39:30.140 sitting next to the exploded shrapnel of his rocket,

00:39:35.160 contemplating that failure.

00:39:38.940 Whatever you are doing in your life,

00:39:43.100 think about that.

00:39:46.220 Elon Musk was on the edge of failure,

00:39:49.380 yet he was driven to build, driven to create

00:39:53.580 to such an extent that he powered through all of those failures

00:39:59.800 And right now, he is the most successful entrepreneur in the history of capitalism, in the history of the world.

00:40:08.980 He employs around 160,000 people.

00:40:12.460 When SpaceX went public on Friday, he created 4,400 new millionaires and 400 hundred millionaires.

00:40:23.280 We had two callers in hour one who called in

00:40:26.640 that either themselves had become millionaires or they knew millionaires.

00:40:30.760 And I'm not talking about kids that all went to MIT and Harvard and Princeton.

00:40:37.120 A lot of the people that became millionaires don't even have college degrees.

00:40:44.980 And with that story that I just told you,

00:40:48.380 the Democrat response, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren,

00:40:52.340 Graham Plattner, the main Senate nominee, tweeted,

00:40:56.900 all of them had a variation of this take.

00:40:59.820 Elon Musk just became the world's first trillionaire.

00:41:03.040 Let's make sure he's also the last.

00:41:06.220 Let's make sure he's the last supremely successful person ever in the world.

00:41:15.220 Builder mindset versus taker mindset.

00:41:19.600 Which are you?

00:41:22.340 We're not all going to build trillion-dollar companies.

00:41:24.860 In fact, hardly any of us will.

00:41:26.500 But we can all build successful foundations, family, your own business, your own life.

00:41:37.620 Are you building a healthier culture for yourself?

00:41:41.500 To me, the Republican Party is the party of builders.

00:41:45.400 It's the party of creators.

00:41:46.920 it's the party that embraces success risk-taking fearlessness pushing all your chips into the

00:41:55.800 table and saying i'm going to do something that has never done been done before i think the elon

00:42:03.580 musk story is one of the greatest stories in the history of the united states the fact that he is

00:42:10.920 being attacked I think is a failure of American entrepreneurial spirit but also of the American

00:42:20.860 media itself when someone like Graham Plattner says Elon Musk just became the world's first

00:42:29.980 trillionaire let's make sure he's also the last what they're actually saying is America is finished

00:42:36.340 because if we are not creating more trillionaires in the future, capitalism has failed.

00:42:44.040 Democrats see the United States as a finished product

00:42:48.060 and all of the wealth that we have created as a fixed pie that must be distributed.

00:42:55.600 Republicans see this country as a work in progress

00:42:59.520 and an opportunity for more growth that can then be the rising tide that lifts all boats.

00:43:08.120 One of the things that frustrates me is I think the Republican Party does an oftentimes awful job

00:43:14.880 actually telling the story of American spirit, entrepreneurialism,

00:43:19.780 and the fact that we all have risk-taking DNA inside of us because no matter how we ended up here,

00:43:26.220 we were descended from people who survived long trips on ships and many of those people

00:43:35.260 made the decision to step onto a ship and leave behind everything they had ever known before

00:43:40.260 to go to a wild new land and that my friends is what we are celebrating this year the fact that

00:43:47.300 we are all the product of incredible strivers of which Elon Musk's striving is maybe the

00:43:55.940 greatest success story that's ever been told on the shores of america and so every time i look

00:44:01.780 and see when i go into my stock charts and i see that tesla is a multi-trillion dollar company

00:44:10.940 i just think my goodness what an amazing country we live in i hope that there are dozens hundreds

00:44:19.740 thousands of young kids out there all endeavoring to build their own trillion dollar company

00:44:25.740 right here in the greatest country in the world and i hope you and me and most of us are probably

00:44:32.880 not going to be building the trillion dollar companies but i hope that we are instilling

00:44:38.120 in our kids using elon musk as an example that one day you could be contrary to what

00:44:44.760 graham platner is saying the next elon musk your brother your sister could your kids might be able

00:44:52.020 to do it your grandkids might be able to do it god willing wouldn't that be amazing if instead

00:44:58.100 of graham plattner saying let's make sure elon musk's the last what if we all endeavored to make

00:45:04.300 sure that there are hundreds if not thousands more of elon musk in the decades to come we'll

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00:47:12.420 welcome back in clay and buck i'm watching all these even in commercial breaks all these

00:47:19.880 interviews of foreigners in the united states having an incredible time with the world cup

00:47:26.080 going on um i'm gonna send this clip i'm not sure how much of it we can get in but it will

00:47:33.760 definitely put a smile on your face of a in texas a uh japanese guy getting interviewed

00:47:41.840 as he gets ready to go in and root for japan to win but i did want to share this story with you

00:47:48.780 because jd vance just tweeted about it uh a short while ago and i tweeted about it yesterday

00:47:54.220 we're in june and when we're in june we know what june means uh it is pride month and so there is

00:48:02.620 so much discussion surrounding gay pride everything else a lot of sports teams decide

00:48:12.740 that they're going to wear gay pride uniforms and the San Francisco Giants probably not a huge

00:48:19.740 surprise given the huge gay population in San Francisco I believe it was just a couple days

00:48:26.200 ago wore uh uniforms that had rainbows for the sf logo and several players three of them

00:48:36.540 wrote bible verses on those jerseys on those baseball caps and they um and they have since

00:48:46.640 been criticized and i want to make sure that i get this right because uh because i shared it

00:48:51.900 from my account so i'm pulling it up right now the uh major league baseball has said i'm reading

00:48:58.480 from the athletic the crazy left-wing new york times sports in quotation marks section after

00:49:05.200 three san francisco giants pitchers appeared in friday's game with bible verses written on their

00:49:11.360 pride night caps mlb issued a warning that similar behavior will not be tolerated the mlb said the

00:49:21.460 writing on the cap violates our rules and consistent with normal practice we have warned

00:49:28.420 the players about future violations now jd vance just tweeted um trump won we don't have to do this

00:49:39.660 anymore my question for you and i'll get to some of the calls or talk backs because i know we have

00:49:47.140 a substantial number of gay people that listen to this program.

00:49:51.860 Have we reached the point where pride celebrations are actually

00:49:57.200 counterproductive to people that are actually gay?

00:50:00.440 And I may not be able to get you all of your talkbacks, 0.99

00:50:03.400 but if you are gay and you are listening to us right now, 0.97

00:50:06.620 I feel like when you are mandating that all players wear a rainbow hat 0.99

00:50:15.980 or rainbow uniforms or whatever the heck when you have gay pride based sports team uniforms

00:50:23.080 and if a player disagrees for religious reasons or any other reason with wearing a gay pride

00:50:30.600 uniform what's he supposed to do and how at this point are you benefiting gay people at all

00:50:39.260 when you are mandating let me just kind of walk through this let's pretend that you're one of

00:50:44.720 these san francisco giants players you have a religious belief that you do not believe that

00:50:51.880 being gay should in any way be celebrated i think you're well entitled to have that opinion

00:51:00.300 i think even gay people would say i think hey i understand that my lifestyle some people may

00:51:08.060 not agree with it the way to me to convince people that they should have no trouble with

00:51:15.700 your lifestyle is not by punishing them if they say that they disagree with your lifestyle

00:51:22.200 because to me that actually leads to even more resentment and disagreement with the lifestyle

00:51:31.140 than if you just say, okay, I get it.

00:51:34.500 You don't agree with my lifestyle.

00:51:37.160 So what?

00:51:39.400 The government is giving me the opportunity to live as I see fit.

00:51:44.280 Why do you have to compel others to speak in some way to endorse your lifestyle?

00:51:50.940 And to me, this is a really important distinction.

00:51:54.640 It also goes to the trans issue.

00:51:56.860 if you're an adult and you want to put on a dress and you want to say i'm a girl now

00:52:04.340 i think most people can still tell you're a dude personally but back in the day when we had

00:52:12.960 cross dressers there were all sorts of cross dressing celebrations and bars and clubs and

00:52:19.540 everything else. But nobody took the next step of saying, I'm dressing up like a girl and you

00:52:28.040 have to acknowledge that I am a girl or you're a bigot. You have to acknowledge that I'm every

00:52:36.040 bit the same as a girl and I should be able to win a girls championship or you aren't affirming

00:52:43.300 my recognition i think there's a big difference between you have the freedom to live as you see

00:52:50.720 fit and me having to affirm that i agree with appreciate and acknowledge your lifestyle choice

00:52:58.860 to me that's a really big difference um and i do think that we have crossed the rubicon so to speak

00:53:09.180 beyond, hey, if you want to do this, that's your choice.

00:53:13.620 You have the adult.

00:53:14.720 You're an adult.

00:53:15.520 You're a consensual adult.

00:53:16.980 You live as you see fit.

00:53:18.640 I'm not going to barge down your bedroom door

00:53:21.020 and check and see what you're doing there

00:53:22.620 as long as you're an adult, right?

00:53:23.920 We've actually had Supreme Court cases on this.

00:53:26.720 I think most people out there are okay with that.

00:53:29.940 But when you require me to celebrate your lifestyle choice,

00:53:35.040 that's different.

00:53:36.260 and to me either you end pride night which i would be fine with personally i think the the pride night

00:53:45.060 sports leagues hey we're going to celebrate the sexuality of anybody i think is is long since

00:53:51.940 passed in terms of its significance and i actually think again it's working against gay people now

00:53:58.360 because when you mandate speech you have moved from hey we're seeking tolerant

00:54:04.200 uh respect for our choices just allow us to live as we see fit to i have to celebrate the way that

00:54:13.040 you are choosing to live so if you're these giants players you come into your locker room

00:54:18.060 they give you a rainbow hat you're like what are we doing here most of the players i would say don't

00:54:26.020 want to wear the rainbow hats it's like the seinfeld can we get the clip back in the day

00:54:31.360 remember when kramer wouldn't wear the ribbon and the gay dudes i think it was a gay pride march or

00:54:37.260 something and the gay dudes threatened him and threatened to beat him up if he wouldn't wear 0.70

00:54:42.920 the ribbon and he's like i just don't want to wear the ribbon if you're a major league baseball 0.96

00:54:48.240 player and you're going out on the field i could see why you might not want to wear a rainbow hat 0.63

00:54:53.180 and so what what opportunities do you have you either just suck it up don't say anything show

00:55:00.640 up which is what most of them do and probably just root for june to be over so you can be done

00:55:06.660 with the rainbow outfits or you feel compelled to make it clear that you are not celebrating and

00:55:15.840 endorsing gay lifestyle and so you write a bible verse on your hat i don't understand how major

00:55:24.780 league baseball's position can be we're going to mandate that you wear these uniforms and that is

00:55:31.820 a form of speech clearly but if you disagree with the speech that we are mandating we're going to

00:55:38.400 punish you if you speak out against the mandated speech i don't see to me if you're going to

00:55:46.220 mandate that people have to wear rainbow uniforms then you should also allow them to put a bible

00:55:52.620 verse on that says hey i disagree with this lifestyle choice so i think major league baseball

00:55:59.820 has created a mess here my solution would be pride nights just need to go and again we may

00:56:05.060 have a bunch of gay people who disagree with me you can give us talkbacks we'll hit some of those 0.95

00:56:08.980 tomorrow to me it is not tolerant to mandate a form of speech and if you disagree with it say 0.99

00:56:18.400 we're going to punish you for doing so and by the way i think you can use this as an example

00:56:24.400 writ large everywhere a lot of you out there listening right now in 2020 suddenly had to

00:56:31.000 put your pronouns in your email address and a lot of you were saying i i'm a dude i'm a chick like

00:56:38.140 why do i have to put what my pronouns are in an email in my sign-in some of you got emails from

00:56:45.600 hr directors who were monitoring because people complained oh joe in accounting he hasn't put

00:56:52.660 that he's a he him he's avoiding putting his pronouns in his email signature

00:56:58.140 alice alice over in the uh accounting department she won't put she her this is offensive to me

00:57:10.720 she's not acknowledging the importance of pronouns i'm a they them and i need to be

00:57:16.480 acknowledged why why does your lifestyle choice have to be acknowledged and celebrated by someone

00:57:23.600 else when they are at work again i think jd vance saying trump one we're done with this is a good

00:57:30.560 take but my take would actually be that mandating speech never helps increase support for the

00:57:40.460 speech that you are trying to encourage more people to support in fact it actually starts to go

00:57:46.220 in the opposite direction and so i think all of that is a significant aspect and this story is

00:57:56.180 going to be one worthy of following uh okay we're going to take some of your calls i'm sure we're

00:58:02.220 going to be deluged with responses on this this is going on right now in san francisco i would also

00:58:07.300 argue what's more courageous in san francisco wearing a rainbow hat or putting a bible verse

00:58:15.860 on your hat i would suggest the bible verse is actually the more courageous thing to do

00:58:21.920 in terms of you're going to be criticized far more for the bible verse on a hat than you are

00:58:27.880 for the rainbow uh hat in san francisco in particular the location here matters not every

00:58:33.640 team does these pride nights i would submit to you all 32 30 sorry i think it's 30 major league

00:58:38.840 baseball teams should do away with it all 32 nfl teams nba teams i think the whole pride world

00:58:44.240 frankly has been uh so forced onto us that it now is hugely counterproductive in terms of actually

00:58:54.180 adding allies to your side but we're going to get a ton of talkbacks i'll play some of these tomorrow

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