Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jun 18 2026

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00:01:58.160 Big day in NYC.

00:02:00.500 I know a lot of the rest of you could care less,

00:02:02.020 but for New Yorkers, as you would feel,

00:02:03.920 the Knicks parade is today.

00:02:06.700 And I'm not a parade guy.

00:02:09.820 I make an exception for anything that honors veterans.

00:02:12.920 And maybe, no, I was going to say St. Paddy's Day,

00:02:15.340 but no, actually, I'm not a parade guy.

00:02:17.920 Apparently, Clay, the line on the street

00:02:21.440 to get even near the parade area

00:02:23.600 is like an impassable mass of humanity,

00:02:26.720 which you know that's my favorite thing i love huge crowds squashed in no exit no ability to

00:02:33.780 see anything sign me up for that but i hope everyone's having a great time who's at the

00:02:37.820 parade who likes those sorts of things and uh congrats to the new york football knicks on an

00:02:44.140 incredible run to win the new york basketball knicks what did i say new york football knicks

00:02:50.180 like just uh blowing your entire open honoring the new york basketball and that was actually

00:02:55.320 just a that was actually just a brain that was a biden moment sorry about that new york basketball

00:03:00.080 knicks i can't believe i just did that um and yes they are they are fabulous they are fantastic

00:03:05.120 okay so clay i've been out i hear some things about this iran deal and there's a lot of talk

00:03:11.400 about it my first thoughts on i know you've been you've been sharing on this well actually i'll

00:03:15.820 start with this i feel like you'll be you'll be pleased you might even be proud you know what i

00:03:20.080 did before i even got into this i looked up the price of gas today three dollars and 99 cents it

00:03:29.800 hit as of this morning under four dollars for the first time since march so i i have a lot of

00:03:36.320 feelings about this uh clay this this deal and we can get into some of the mou specifics now

00:03:42.760 the first is great end this thing this conflict bring the price of gas down because internal

00:03:51.600 polling for republicans was in fact showing in recent weeks this was going to be a huge problem

00:03:56.500 in the midterms we were telling you that it is true it is consensus politically for a reason

00:04:01.220 so i'm very happy that the price of gas is going to start to come down assuming again the oil is

00:04:06.020 going to flow which i think that it now will through the strait of hormuz um is this what

00:04:13.520 we were told it would be no it is not and did i tell you that there was going to be a deal to have

00:04:18.000 another deal in 60 days yes i did in fact i think i told you that 60 days ago everybody because it's

00:04:23.660 really hard to get this kind of thing nailed down the iranians were not as boxed in as we were told

00:04:29.080 that they were they had a little bit more uh intransigence than the american people were told

00:04:35.440 but clay i'm also at a point here where we'll see people still have a lot of faith in trump that if

00:04:42.080 the iranians step out of line which i would bet money in fact i bet he would bet money they will

00:04:46.120 that he will uh unleash the fury on them once again and so the deal is as i expected the deal

00:04:55.000 does not prevent iran forever and always from getting a nuclear weapon that was unrealistic

00:04:59.980 in the first place but i'm happy the deal is in place because gas prices will go down and we can

00:05:05.680 focus on the home front and we can get white working class voters who have started to get

00:05:09.920 really shaky about voting for republicans in this midterm to get back into the fold and back in line

00:05:15.580 and uh support us against the communist lunatic democrat party so that's my that's my 30 000

00:05:21.680 foot view so overall i'm i'm happy it's not what we were told and they can keep telling us it is

00:05:27.440 and that's not true but that's okay i'm still happy yay trump let's bring this thing home with

00:05:32.160 the midterms and let's finish out strong for the next two years i think the biggest question is who

00:05:38.900 has a right to be angry about where we are right now i i think that's a fair approximation and to

00:05:46.860 me, Buck, the only people who have a right to be angry, and some of you are in this audience,

00:05:51.500 and I 100% understand why you're angry about this. You believe that we need to wipe out the current

00:05:57.940 leadership of Iran. And if you believe that, and I don't know, 20%, 30% of this audience may well 0.97

00:06:04.780 believe that, the only way to do it, and I give you credit because you said it was not going to

00:06:08.960 be possible to do it from the air, is to put boots on the ground, tens of thousands of American

00:06:16.260 soldiers probably into Iran to try to change the government. And if you are in favor of that,

00:06:24.620 I understand. I don't know what percentage are in favor of that. Most are not because Iran and

00:06:29.560 Afghanistan were such unmitigated disasters in terms of loss of life, in terms of loss of

00:06:35.000 trillions of dollars, all of those things lining up. If you are of the opinion that we should keep 1.00

00:06:41.720 going and take out the mullahs, take out the entire Iranian Republican National Guard, everybody 0.99

00:06:47.480 that is affiliated with the Ayatollah in any way, and that we should put back in the Shah of Iran

00:06:53.760 or some other leadership group, you have a right to be upset today because President Trump decided

00:06:59.600 he wasn't willing to do that. Once he decided he wasn't willing to do that, Buck, it's kind of like

00:07:05.220 you've decided to land the plane and the question is just, okay, where are we going to put the plane

00:07:09.960 down. And to me, the overwhelming, most important thing to this audience, and we've been hammering

00:07:15.860 it for some time, is what does a gallon of gas cost? It was $68 a barrel buck when we went into

00:07:23.060 Afghanistan at the end of February. As I am speaking to you right now, it is $73.80. So

00:07:29.720 there is almost no difference. As you started off the show by saying nationwide, the average gallon

00:07:34.640 of gas is under $4. When I flew up here to D.C., it was under $3.50 in my hometown of Nashville,

00:07:43.800 suburban area near the airport. I was paying attention as I was driving in. If you live in

00:07:48.500 a red state, you are soon going to have $3 a gallon oil and gas again. And I believe by the

00:07:54.700 time we actually get two people voting in this fall, that gas will be back to $3 a gallon.

00:07:59.880 So would you sign off on that? People out there are going to say, oh,

00:08:03.140 Trump lost the negotiation. They hate Trump. They don't care. Trump could have been told we played

00:08:08.980 the cut yesterday. The Ayatollahs could come out and say Trump is the greatest American president 0.69

00:08:13.560 of all time. And we got totally obliterated by him in negotiation. And the people who hate Trump

00:08:18.980 still would be complaining. There is no war. There is no high price of oil and gas. The Iranian

00:08:25.660 Air Force Navy is gone. And most of their leadership at a high level is gone as well.

00:08:31.940 And now we're in kind of the and the nuclear ambition may be there, but the nuclear weapons are gone.

00:08:38.120 So here's where we are.

00:08:39.620 OK, so a few things that I would add to all this play.

00:08:42.880 One, I think people, yes, they're the people that want to go all the way, whatever the cost, carguiling, go get the dust, all of that.

00:08:51.260 I think that's about 10 percent of the audience.

00:08:53.160 I think that's a very small percentage of the audience.

00:08:55.240 i do think there are people who are expressing frustration also with president trump saying

00:09:01.420 we've got them right where they where we want them they're going to sign off on everything

00:09:06.260 um they're desperate for a deal and and all this sort of bluster about we're going to bomb them

00:09:12.480 back into the stone age if they don't do everything we say um none of that was true so some people are

00:09:17.840 frustrated by the fact that that was all nonsense uh this deal reflects that that was not accurate

00:09:22.480 Now, maybe that was how Trump negotiates, his posture, his positioning, whatever. Fine. What matters? No more bombs. Gas price dropping. Let's focus on what matters here at home again. OK, I think it was, you know, you can look at this like Trump took a shot, many shots in a sense.

00:09:42.320 But he took a shot to try to fundamentally transform the Middle East without losing a lot of American lives in the process, without some long and intractable war.

00:09:52.720 And it didn't work out that way. 0.67

00:09:54.500 But we are now in some protracted negotiation with the Iranians. 0.58

00:09:59.800 They do know that Trump is willing to blow up their stuff whenever if they get out of line.

00:10:04.600 I think there's still a lot of trust in Trump on foreign policy out there. 0.99

00:10:10.040 Like that's actually trust in Trump is the policy, meaning, OK, sure, we all know the Iranians will probably cheat. 0.97

00:10:15.560 I think he knows they'll cheat, but he will bring the hammer down on them if and when they do. 0.84

00:10:20.740 And and this is not going to turn into a quagmire and all these things that people are going to say.

00:10:26.740 Was it worth it? Let's see where we are after the midterms.

00:10:30.220 But for right now, Clay, I'm just glad that we are at a phase where the kinetic activity is done and the price of gas is dropping and Hormuz is opening. Yes, sir.

00:10:41.220 I would also point out Israel was wrong on regime change. And so you should analyze when you consider Israeli arguments going forward. If you are Trump, Israel said the Iranian people will rise up and they will overthrow this government.

00:10:59.440 Now, I think Marco Rubio said that's BS.

00:11:02.780 I'm paraphrasing in a big story the New York Times had from inside the Situation Room.

00:11:07.760 J.D. Vance did not believe that was possible either.

00:11:10.680 But there are reports that Netanyahu said, if we take out the Ayatollah, then there will be an uprising inside of Iran and we will have a new government.

00:11:20.320 That didn't happen.

00:11:21.620 And so the only other option...

00:11:23.320 Not even close, by the way.

00:11:24.640 I just want to be clear.

00:11:25.260 Not even...

00:11:25.680 It wasn't even...

00:11:27.160 It's not like they had to put down a rebellion.

00:11:30.660 Yeah, it's not even like, Clay, we took it into the red zone, so to speak.

00:11:34.820 You know what I mean?

00:11:35.280 This was not a close call.

00:11:37.420 Which is why I come back to reality of decision making.

00:11:41.660 If you want to have regime change, the only way it's going to happen,

00:11:44.960 boots on the ground.

00:11:46.160 Vast majority of people aren't willing to do that.

00:11:48.500 I mean, sustain boots on the ground.

00:11:50.260 I don't mean some sort of raid like we saw in Venezuela.

00:11:53.420 and now gas is going to come back down and the people who hate Trump still hate Trump and they

00:11:59.640 would have hated him no matter what and they're complaining but I don't even understand what

00:12:03.400 their complaint is because they're unhappy that the war existed now the war is over and they're

00:12:08.800 still unhappy again they just have Trump derangement syndrome well there that there is

00:12:14.800 that contingent I think there's also a contingent of people who will point to this and say what

00:12:19.380 exactly did we get out of this and i think the argument would be we we kept for at least a short

00:12:25.100 period of time maybe there'll be another democrat president at some point iran from being able to

00:12:30.700 have a nuclear weapon so these are the people that are skeptical of that whole thing because

00:12:35.540 we've been told iran was two weeks from a nuclear weapon for about 20 years now uh so i i do think

00:12:40.280 it's worth noting that sort of uh there's a high level of suspicion on that front uh that people

00:12:47.320 thought if if iran is not close to getting a nuclear weapon then i would say there's no point

00:12:52.440 in anything that we did so my presumption is that we're right about that because if we're not then

00:12:57.480 i would sign off with uh with the critics there and say okay there's not really much that was

00:13:03.020 capable of being accomplished if they truly were not close to getting a nuclear weapon i buy in

00:13:07.980 that they were just to be fair and and honest with this as we always will be um this is a mow the

00:13:13.420 grass situation the irgc is still in charge they have a half a million men under arms on the ground

00:13:18.780 in iran who are effectively untouched by this air campaign they control the security apparatus

00:13:24.380 they are still running things over there once the oil opens up and by the way part of this mou is a

00:13:29.980 300 300 billion dollar american-led reconstruction fund for iran now maybe they don't get that money

00:13:37.120 if they don't play nice with us but they're going to have the ability to sell their oil which means 0.59

00:13:40.660 They're going to have a lot of money to buy the latest and greatest Russian and Chinese made anti-air and all the rest of it. 0.98

00:13:46.840 Maybe that doesn't do that much this time, but maybe they've learned some lessons from taking our best punch and still standing afterwards. 1.00

00:13:53.240 So, you know, there's a lot of we'll see here, Clay.

00:13:56.360 It does remind me of the Charlie Wilson's war.

00:13:59.080 What is that?

00:13:59.760 Is it an allegory where the guy is like, I was given a horse, you know, was it good?

00:14:04.320 Was it bad?

00:14:04.820 We'll see.

00:14:05.260 He breaks his leg.

00:14:06.160 We'll see.

00:14:06.640 He goes, he can't go to war because of the broken leg.

00:14:08.520 We'll see.

00:14:08.900 there's some of that here for sure um but overall i'm just happy that there's a there is some kind

00:14:14.680 of a it's a deal to make a deal to be clear and i don't think there's going to be an eventual deal

00:14:18.980 on the nuclear side of this that is enforceable and that is so i don't think it's great but i'm

00:14:24.720 happy that it's done that's where i am and it's exactly what i thought it would be for about the

00:14:28.900 last uh when did this thing start february 28th yeah since about april it's been clear that this

00:14:37.080 is where we're going to be so this is where we are and the iranians have learned a lesson too

00:14:40.520 which is american politics do not sustain high gas prices for very long and we can't act all they

00:14:47.080 have to do is threaten the straight-up homers they don't have to actually control it and that

00:14:50.540 can shut down traffic there so that's a problem they've learned they've learned something we have

00:14:55.020 we have issues to tackle we have a couple of senators that are going to be on with us here

00:15:00.680 senator ron johnson is sitting right now in the uh i guess the green room even though it's painted

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00:19:25.140 Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.

00:19:27.680 Clay is in D.C. where we have one of our many freedom bunkers to do the show.

00:19:35.380 And he is with Senator Ron Johnson.

00:19:37.240 Senator Johnson of Wisconsin, thank you as always for being here with us.

00:19:40.820 A couple things.

00:19:42.040 Obviously, midterm elections starting to loom large, especially as we're entering here in the peak summer season.

00:19:50.940 And this is something that caught my attention.

00:19:54.060 Most recent NPR PBS news poll for June of 26.

00:20:00.320 More than three in four Americans were saying that gas prices were spinning their household budgets.

00:20:05.440 Reuters poll 77 percent of registered voters see fuel prices as a big concern.

00:20:12.660 So we were getting the calls about this.

00:20:15.180 I'm sure you were hearing from constituents in Wisconsin similar things.

00:20:19.680 Is this now, this deal, enough?

00:20:22.720 We saw the drop in prices.

00:20:24.180 Is this enough to take this off the table as an issue for the fall?

00:20:27.960 How do you assess it?

00:20:29.680 I sure hope so.

00:20:30.780 I've seen Wisconsin.

00:20:32.000 I've paid, I think, as high as $4.49 a gallon.

00:20:35.040 On Monday, I paid $3.89.

00:20:36.880 So it's been already coming down.

00:20:38.260 And I think if it comes down even further, I think it'll really reduce this as an issue.

00:20:42.920 You know, what's interesting in Wisconsin, we are a big state involved in trade from a manufacturing standpoint as well as agriculture.

00:20:51.000 I was with the president a couple of Fridays ago in Eau Claire at a farm, and while he was doing his NBC interview, I was talking to the panelists, the farmers.

00:21:00.180 And, you know, they're harmed by the trade wars, no doubt about it.

00:21:03.540 But almost to a person, I hear this from manufacturers as well, that are harmed by the trade wars, but we understand what President Trump is trying to do, and we support him.

00:21:12.040 So it's really, it's a very interesting dynamic.

00:21:14.900 They realize that we've been magnanimous in terms of our trading partners, let them come take advantage of our economy, and we've been treated unfairly. 1.00

00:21:23.140 And they'd like to reset those relationships, and they recognize it's not an easy thing to do, just like it wasn't easy to get the Aitolas to behave. 0.99

00:21:33.540 You, in addition to everything that's going on with Iran, you have a piece you shared on social media, and I want to grab it and make sure I get this data right. 0.97

00:21:44.520 You shared this article on social media.

00:21:46.980 I retweeted it.

00:21:47.940 Currently, VAERS, which is basically vaccine reactions, shows 1,676,100 cumulative worldwide adverse events, 39,099 deaths associated with COVID shots, with 9,332, 24% of those deaths occurring within two days of injection.

00:22:11.180 And most of these outcomes occurred after there were reports of adverse conditions.

00:22:16.580 this piece that you shared at the bottom you pitched it to the wall street journal the new

00:22:22.600 york times the washington post usa today and fox digital they have all declined or ignored

00:22:29.840 requests to publish your op-ed on vaccine side effects what's going on here what do you want

00:22:36.180 our audience to know well first of all god bless elon musk for buying x and maintaining freedom

00:22:41.940 of speech on the internet. So yeah, we decided to self-publish this. But no, I released a report

00:22:47.940 and held a hearing on April 29th talking about how Peter Marks, head of the FDA division that

00:22:53.280 approves vaccines and surveils for safety signals, was warned that their algorithm

00:22:56.920 that was used to analyze VAERS was going to hide safety signals. 26 days later,

00:23:03.000 he was shown 25 safety signals using new algorithms, sudden cardiac death, pulmonary

00:23:07.500 infarction, different types of stroke, Bell palsy, and he ignored it. They continued to use it at

00:23:11.860 algorithm so they could lie to the American people. We're just not seeing safety signals,

00:23:16.080 although we'd seen them. So again, I think this is the biggest government scandal in my lifetime

00:23:21.480 because we as Americans, but also the global population who relies on our FDA and CDC to

00:23:28.260 give them the information, the truth, we weren't given the truth. We did not have the information

00:23:32.800 informed consent. Of course, they did that so they could mandate it to the people in the military,

00:23:38.540 out to other people. They could coerce people. They could coerce parents into giving their child

00:23:44.780 the injection so you wouldn't transmit it to your grandparents. Of course, it didn't stop

00:23:49.180 transmission. So again, we were told lie after lie after lie, and they're still lying, and they're

00:23:54.340 still covering it up. So again, I think this is a mini scandal within the overall scandal that

00:23:59.160 the legacy media, it's been now a month and a half since I issued that report. I can't get on

00:24:05.300 the major networks and this op-ed which summarizes my 38 page report in in a page uh they won't run

00:24:11.980 that either so i decided to self-publish and you know thankfully people are retweeting and people

00:24:16.320 are more people are seeing the truth the good news senator johnson is you're on a pretty big

00:24:20.560 pretty big network so a lot of people are in fact hearing about this and uh i i a far more a far

00:24:27.840 more successful and bright future for this network than what you're seeing over at uh the old scott

00:24:33.040 pelly version of 60 minutes for example uh but nonetheless uh this is something where you have

00:24:39.820 been of like mind with clay with me for a long time i'm still outraged about covet i still get

00:24:44.820 mad when i talk about it i think a lot of people just don't really care uh which is sad but i think

00:24:49.340 that they just want to move on to other things is there ever to be there won't be uh justice and i

00:24:55.300 don't think there will be accountability but could there be change meaning either legislatively or

00:25:01.680 from the executive branch while trump is president changes in policy so this wouldn't happen again

00:25:07.180 because i feel like that's the least that we should be able to get out of this and i'm not

00:25:11.400 sure that that's even happened well bobby kennedy's trying but you have to understand he's being

00:25:15.840 undermined and sabotaged by the the lifers you know that look at any new administration is this

00:25:20.720 too shall pass but you know buck one of the reasons i'm i'm on this like a junkyard dog is 0.96

00:25:25.840 i've i'm connected to the injection injured community you know i've met a parent who lost

00:25:32.080 his best friend his son you know to the coven injection and so these people all they've wanted

00:25:37.960 since i held an event with them in june of 2021 is to be seen heard and believed so that they can

00:25:42.960 get treated you know something diabolical in this whole story is it also in march of 2021

00:25:47.960 the nih had a group of scientists who were diagnosing and treating severely injected

00:25:54.080 injection injured individuals for their injuries but they told them all do not talk about this

00:26:01.660 let's complete our study then we'll publish it then doctors will be made aware of you know give

00:26:05.320 guidance on how to treat this they didn't publish their study only under pressure they they put a

00:26:11.580 one pager out on a pre-print server told no one just like the Grinch you know solve world hunger

00:26:16.460 tell no one one of the conclusions in this treatment regimen is you had to intervene early

00:26:21.460 to be effective in treatment, and they didn't provide doctor's guidance.

00:26:25.200 And so to this day, the health agencies haven't acknowledged these injuries.

00:26:29.880 CDC actually ran a study in 2021 saying that these neurological symptoms were anxiety.

00:26:36.100 It's all in your head.

00:26:37.560 And so these people are at a low point.

00:26:39.040 They've been struggling for 10 years to get an ICD code.

00:26:41.640 They want to be seen, heard, and believed so they can be treated.

00:26:44.880 They're still not being treated to this day.

00:26:46.280 So that's why, you know, this is my white whale.

00:26:48.820 I'm Ahab.

00:26:49.600 I'm going to do everything I can to expose this so these people can be held accountable,

00:26:53.700 but mainly advocating for the injection injury so they can be treated and also so this never happens again.

00:27:00.080 What happened in COVID is a travesty.

00:27:02.740 Our loss of freedoms, the lies told to us, we can't let it happen again.

00:27:07.060 Senator Ron Johnson, always a pleasure, sir. Thank you.

00:27:10.520 Thanks for having me on. Thanks for covering this story.

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00:28:43.880 of crazy clay and buck have your back welcome back in hour number two i am clay travis he is

00:28:51.900 british colonial soldier buck sexton rooting for in america 250 the british to come to american

00:28:58.340 shores and emerge triumphant called out by alexia lawless very well done at the end of hour one i am

00:29:05.900 excited to watch tomorrow the u.s and australia play you and i will be in buck as many people

00:29:12.840 across the country will be taking a holiday uh as juneteenth has now become a holiday i think it's

00:29:19.500 a company holiday for iHeart too technically i thought i thought you were taking it this year

00:29:25.060 otherwise perhaps i would have taken it so i guess we're just out of luck on juneteenth this time

00:29:30.400 around you and i work columbus day we work um uh the uh what's the one in october uh that's

00:29:38.660 columbus day we work on president's day we work on mlk day these are all holidays that everybody

00:29:44.420 else at the company takes you and i work even a bunch of other hosts take it uh so we will be here

00:29:49.180 with all of you tomorrow. And I'm pretty excited. We just had Alexi Lawless on. And let me tell you,

00:29:54.540 we're going to have Harmeet Dillon in studio with me here in D.C., one of the top officials in the

00:29:59.240 Department of Justice. A lot we can talk about with her. And in the third hour, we will have

00:30:03.660 Senator Dave McCormick of Pennsylvania. He will be on with us as well. No guests coming in this

00:30:09.160 hour. So you can load up the lines 800-282-2882, react to everything surrounding Iran and more.

00:30:16.620 but I'm really excited tomorrow as soon as we finish this program at 3 Eastern the U.S. game

00:30:22.760 against Australia will be starting and I'm going to make a prediction for you I think it will become

00:30:28.280 other than football the most watched sporting event of the year in 2026 so far that's how much

00:30:35.600 I think people are starting to buy in for this U.S. men's soccer team and also just how much

00:30:41.020 latent energy for American exceptionalism I think is there we've caught it and experienced it and

00:30:47.900 felt it with the U.S. hockey team in the Winter Olympics and their run to the gold medal and I

00:30:54.420 just think there is a lot of demand for America American exceptionalism across the the nation do

00:31:03.180 you feel that do you feel that there is a positive groundswell obviously a team can screw it up and

00:31:09.060 the U.S. men's soccer team has screwed up a lot when people have wanted to be optimistic in the

00:31:13.660 past. But the audience is huge, and it feels to me like people are just ready to explode in

00:31:19.040 excitement. Well, I got to tell you something, Clay, is if I'm not going to get booed enough

00:31:24.800 for rooting for the Redcoats, if you will, in the World Cup. But I really do think that this is

00:31:31.880 not only rooting for the Redcoats, as Alexi said, Buck, rooting for the Redcoats in the 250th 0.58

00:31:37.620 anniversary of the nation on the anniversary of us standing up to the redcoats in 1776 look they

00:31:45.100 got us the war of 1812 they may be coming back for more now and i think that the uh being led

00:31:52.080 by harry kane who's an incredible striker i think that this team is going to be able to go all the

00:31:58.660 way everyone's saying spain france spain france yeah yeah yeah it's going to be england in fact

00:32:02.400 i should i should probably put a wager a wager of some sorts on you can get them 10 to 1

00:32:07.320 I can get 10 to 1 on England?

00:32:09.020 10 to 1 on England right now.

00:32:10.500 You can get them anywhere on sportsbooks across America.

00:32:14.200 And probably a little bit lower than that in sportsbooks in England.

00:32:17.680 By the way, speaking of sports, we are, and this is funny.

00:32:22.340 I'm telling you a sports thing, though.

00:32:23.680 Hold on a second.

00:32:24.580 Hold on a second.

00:32:26.000 I was in New York, Clay.

00:32:27.840 That's what I was going to, I've got to tease here.

00:32:29.580 Okay.

00:32:30.520 Go ahead, because I was going to tell you, it was a wild and crazy time to be in NYC.

00:32:35.000 well this is actually I think a really good story and it goes to America returning to normal in some

00:32:41.600 way no NBA championship team has visited the White House since Donald Trump was elected

00:32:48.440 president not in Trump 1.0 not so far in Trump 2.0 and I'm going to give some credit to your

00:32:55.140 beloved New York Knicks Buck owner James Dolan said the Knicks have accepted an invitation to

00:33:02.080 the white house here that is cut one i know the parade is going on right now but listen we just

00:33:07.380 did receive an invitation from the white house which we accepted we still have to figure out

00:33:12.800 the details etc but you know yes of course i mean you know look i invited the president

00:33:17.940 to come down for the game right he is a friend i've known him for 30 for 30 years and i'm very

00:33:23.760 proud to bring the team to the white house pretty cool this i think is a return to the republicans

00:33:29.820 by sneakers era of Michael Jordan that the NBA now is saying okay Trump second term we're going

00:33:36.760 to show up we let him come to the game Adam Silver said he was thrilled that's the owner

00:33:40.720 of the Knicks James Dolan you heard I do think this stuff matters well you know when I was talking

00:33:45.760 about the Knicks most recent win you were not the winning the whole thing but winning that

00:33:51.280 incredible come from behind game we had some callers we had some emailers who were saying

00:33:55.880 it's hypocritical how could you support this you generally say you don't like the woke nba and all

00:34:01.000 this stuff and i have a few things to say to that one nobody's perfect two okay it's a good that's 0.92

00:34:09.560 it by the way that's a married man response like you don't even you don't even fight that it was

00:34:14.400 like hey nobody's perfect uh let's uh let's just you know go ahead and turn the page that's a very

00:34:19.620 good uh droid uh rhetorical trick so so i'll put that out there the other one the other one is so 1.00

00:34:26.740 yeah you can put that on your pipe and smoke it to all the email haters and then fuck you say you 0.98

00:34:31.360 don't even like professional athletics yeah but i mean i'm a human being and when it's exciting i 0.99

00:34:35.300 can get a little excited too um the other thing is uh clay for me this time around um it does seem

00:34:43.440 like there is a move

00:34:45.300 toward sports as just

00:34:47.180 like this is what the White House move I think

00:34:49.260 says. This is also what Adam Silver

00:34:51.240 when he was making some

00:34:53.300 comments about the Knicks, the commissioner

00:34:55.080 it feels like the NBA

00:34:57.400 running a business

00:34:59.040 is trying to be smart and I'm not saying

00:35:01.380 they're going right wing of course it's the most

00:35:03.260 left wing league but

00:35:04.660 going back to exactly what you say which

00:35:07.300 is the Republicans buy sneakers to phenomenon

00:35:09.220 that's actually all that I want for sports

00:35:11.380 I don't want

00:35:12.920 right-wing athletics i just want athletics i don't want people to be showing up necessarily

00:35:19.320 all wearing maga hats you know on the team i mean it'd be nice if they're all voters in the stands

00:35:24.960 but you know what i mean i don't need that and we're never going to get that so that's a silly

00:35:28.320 thing to demand the point is can we get back to sports as that as that joyful playful and

00:35:36.620 politically somewhat neutral it's never going to be perfect an invitation from the white house

00:35:42.840 which we accepted we still have so that to me is uh just in case you missed it james dolan there

00:35:50.600 saying that they're accepting that invitation the white house which i think is is key and but i also

00:35:55.800 will say this people say why are you because i was praising brunson a lot clay one day when you

00:35:59.240 were out yeah i'm going to praise people for doing good things we praise fetterman when he says a

00:36:04.880 smart thing about the border about israel it doesn't mean i'm not aware that his votes are 90

00:36:09.380 percent with the democrat party i'm very aware of that and i tell you that brunson is an incredible

00:36:14.780 obviously an incredible athlete and leader of his team but beyond that i think it's really nice to

00:36:19.840 see a guy who married his high school sweetheart and has he has a couple kids right i mean you know

00:36:24.820 he has a really uh cute and intact family and seems to be a guy who's at the absolute pinnacle

00:36:31.340 right now of fame and power certainly in new york and a lot of you are like i don't care about this

00:36:35.980 But in New York City, he is a he is like a sports god and he's talking about other players.

00:36:42.660 He's talking about how the other team was worthy and put up a good fight.

00:36:45.520 He's he's talking about, you know, this from the perspective of humility.

00:36:49.640 Don't we want more of that?

00:36:51.480 Like, I don't think we should be so ornery about professional sports going woke that when things happen that aren't woke or things happen that should be celebrated, we're just silent.

00:37:02.420 this would be like saying someone just made a movie and it's actually you know clay says he

00:37:06.620 likes top gun maverick yeah top gun maverick was a great old school movie that everybody could

00:37:10.740 enjoy that doesn't mean we endorse the jan 6 sean penn movie that's going to be made which is going

00:37:16.540 to be a stinky turd extraordinaire i did well yes i i sign off on that movie uh stinking uh also

00:37:25.580 I would just say you become if you are perpetually embittered and you never say anything positive, you just become the old guy shrieking at the clouds all the time because whatever you want, unless you are the president of the United States and even the president of the United States can't get everything that he wants, you shouldn't agree with the president on everything. 0.96

00:37:51.140 you shouldn't agree with everyone on every single thing um and i would just put it i've always said

00:37:57.440 this you're married now buck the here's an easy question for you what percentage of the time do

00:38:03.900 you agree with your spouse sometimes i try to agree with my spouse by doing the opposite of

00:38:11.240 what i think i should do to try to get to where i think she would want me to be and even then

00:38:17.140 sometimes i'm wrong so every married person particularly the men out there is nodding along

00:38:23.700 unless your wife is sitting beside you in which case you're like i don't know what this guy's

00:38:26.640 talking about yeah every every married couple doesn't agree all the time and men trying to make

00:38:33.480 their wives they they i'm telling you every man listening to me right now buck i don't know if

00:38:38.560 you want to admit to it every man listening right now has done what he would not otherwise have done

00:38:43.080 but did solely because he thought it's what his wife would want him to do.

00:38:46.820 And then sometimes we do that, and we're still wrong.

00:38:49.640 So my point is you shouldn't always expect perfection.

00:38:52.760 A different kind of show for a second, Clay.

00:38:54.980 I'm just asking, has your wife ever said something along the lines of the following?

00:39:00.400 I can't make a decision.

00:39:02.460 Can you tell me which one of these I should buy, choose, whatever?

00:39:07.600 And then you tell her, and she's kind of shocked and somewhat horrified at your choice,

00:39:12.640 and then goes in a different direction yes that's that's always that's always one where

00:39:17.180 i don't even know what i just sit there i don't even know what to do i don't know what to say

00:39:20.740 i was like you couldn't make a decision but you knew the one that i picked was terrible

00:39:25.160 i'll give you a funny example that i noticed last night as i was getting ready for bed

00:39:30.160 one of my friends his wife just had a birthday party uh it's a great birthday party there's a

00:39:36.120 picture of the two of them at the birthday party. The picture of him on the scale of one to a

00:39:42.800 hundred, a hundred being amazing. One being worse is a two. She looks amazing. Buck, if he had posted

00:39:52.820 this photo of him looking amazing and her looking like a two, she would have divorced him on the 1.00

00:39:59.340 spot. Like it would be, Oh, their relationship would be over. And that's posted. It's just like, 0.96

00:40:05.060 hey i look amazing i don't even know if she looked at him i happened to look at the two of them and i

00:40:09.640 was i was like this is the least flattering photo that could possibly be taken of you but your wife

00:40:15.440 looks amazing so of course it is posted that is by the way good father's day advice whatever photos

00:40:21.540 you ever post your wife better look amazing it does not matter at all what you look like

00:40:26.860 oh yeah and you have to get approval oh and also get used to being asked should i post this if your

00:40:33.940 wife likes to post photos of herself the family etc should i post this you say as husband oh yes

00:40:40.760 you look great she goes i'm not going to post it and you go but why was i asked about whether you

00:40:47.040 should post it i'll tell you this clay she doesn't like your tone i'll also tell you a flip side buck

00:40:55.200 you have a one-year-old i am with my 15 year old uh in dc he had a lacrosse tournament that he's

00:41:01.180 been playing and had five games over the past couple of days we went his name is Lincoln we

00:41:06.620 went around and visited the Lincoln Memorial last night got an awesome picture I posted it on

00:41:12.480 Instagram I asked him hey are you okay if I put this picture up it's like yeah I don't care

00:41:18.360 like there you go so when your son gets older you actually will be able to ask someone hey can I

00:41:24.140 post a picture and someone will say yeah I don't care so there is a masculine world at least in

00:41:30.240 the travis household sometimes winning two of us have had a fun time up here in dc all right we'll

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00:45:31.920 All right, everybody, Hour 3, Clay N. Buck gets going right now.

00:45:35.680 We are joined by Harmeet Dillard.

00:45:37.680 She is Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division

00:45:40.640 at the United States Department of Justice.

00:45:44.380 Armit, great to see you as always.

00:45:47.180 We have a lot of questions to talk about.

00:45:48.740 Clay, the lawyer of this duo, gets particularly psyched to talk to you about legal nerddom.

00:45:54.580 But I want to start with my own question here about the change.

00:45:59.280 First, if you would, for everybody,

00:46:00.860 Would you explain the legal doctrine of disparate impact in just layman's terms and then where it has had real impact in our society the way that it has been applied and the change now that DOJ under Title VI has instituted?

00:46:21.180 Well, absolutely. So this is one of the most important doctrines that we learned about when I was a baby lawyer in my 35, 36 years ago going to law school.

00:46:30.820 And there was a case called Duke Power, Griggs and Duke Power, which involved not whether there was intentional discrimination in hiring, but rather whether the effect of hiring practices, including tests and who the positions are advertised to, led to a, quote unquote, disproportionate impact on the working body such that there was some sort of allegation of out of proportion racial makeup of a workforce.

00:46:57.680 And the requirement that came out of this concept of disproportionate impact, which is very distinct from intentional discrimination, is affirmative action.

00:47:08.260 And so throughout the United States now for decades, American employers have effectively been forced to use quotas to avoid scrutiny and lawsuits from the EEOC and from private employment lawyers seeking to, quote unquote, equalize the workforce.

00:47:23.180 And so if you think about it in very simplistic terms, it's equity versus equality.

00:47:29.760 It's sort of equal outcomes as opposed to equal opportunity.

00:47:33.300 And what we've done at the Department of Justice in the last week through my brilliant colleagues at the Office of Legal Counsel is working in response to a request from the EEOC.

00:47:42.220 They issued an opinion saying that disparate impact analysis is no longer consistent with Supreme Court precedent.

00:47:48.700 and that you know in turn cites to recent opinions of the court that include students for fair

00:47:54.380 admissions that include louisiana versus calais in the voting rights context and that includes

00:47:59.140 aims versus ohio youth services in the employment context which says that majority plaintiffs don't

00:48:05.760 have a higher burden of proof than minority plaintiffs so all of this goes to the bottom line

00:48:09.860 of a colorblind constitution and of a colorblind society where individuals have rights against

00:48:17.840 individual discrimination, not groups being put into buckets and then manipulated for outcomes.

00:48:24.320 Harmeet, first of all, thanks for being here. I think you're doing phenomenal work. I enjoy

00:48:28.200 seeing everything that you're working on on a regular basis. I want to give you a couple

00:48:32.800 of recent stories that have been in the headlines and have you kind of tell this audience what's

00:48:39.340 going on there. One is the idea of reparations in Evanston, Illinois. We've heard a lot about this.

00:48:45.520 evanston is where northwestern is sometimes these uh sort of uh locations for elite universities end

00:48:52.660 up with some of the craziest most racist policies frankly the other one that has recently gotten a

00:48:57.480 lot of attention i'm sure you saw california chris rufo shared that there are particular laws that

00:49:04.800 require you be certified as gay which i couldn't believe this was actually real and there's a

00:49:10.120 checklist and you have to have evidence of being gay in order to qualify for certain government 0.80

00:49:15.840 contracts in california both of those are crazy stories they are real walk us through what's 0.61

00:49:22.140 going on there and what your office is is doing there yeah well let's talk about the evanston

00:49:26.320 case first um there have been many efforts by different cities in the united states to have

00:49:30.320 so-called reparations programs that uh give cash to black americans on the basis of past

00:49:39.820 discrimination of their ancestors not of them okay so that's the important point and you know

00:49:45.460 i think this is fundamentally at odds with again the concept of equal justice under the law for

00:49:49.380 individuals of course as a plaintiff's lawyer before i became the doj attorney i i filed

00:49:55.740 lawsuits for people who are injured and that's fair game yeah right you are discriminated against

00:50:00.320 but this is a totally different concept this is me harmeet dylan born in india my tax dollars

00:50:05.800 being used to compensate Bob, who's black, who wasn't discriminated against, but maybe his

00:50:12.440 ancestors were 100 years ago, 50 years ago. And this is at odds with equal protection. And so I

00:50:20.200 don't think that's fair or right. I think it's actually unconstitutional. And so we've actually

00:50:24.160 put a stop to several of these by simply tweeting about them. I did that in Asheville, North Carolina,

00:50:28.100 was trying to do something like this. They immediately backed away when I said, hey,

00:50:31.200 guys, that's illegal. I will sue you. They stopped. Now, Evanston, Illinois has been doing 0.71

00:50:35.560 this for some time they've already given away five million dollars at the beginning their premise was

00:50:40.660 25 000 each to um to people to fix up property or what have you uh so it was sort of a reimbursement

00:50:48.620 program and now it's just cash grants to black people if they can prove that some ancestor of

00:50:53.480 lived in the city from i think it's what one uh 1909 to 1969 a long time ago yeah so and if we

00:51:03.260 start doing this uh this is going to be a slippery slope of haves and have-nots and there are plenty

00:51:09.840 of people in america who've overcome oppression discrimination i mean veterans are discriminated

00:51:15.700 against uh poor people in the ozarks are discriminated against something we can go on and

00:51:19.980 on so i think this is un-american and we're going to put a stop to it what about the gay certification

00:51:24.760 okay so the gay certification is a did you think that was real when you saw it i did because i've

00:51:31.660 lived in california for 25 years okay so it it's it's it's a great headline but the problem is much

00:51:37.600 bigger than that the problem is that the public utilities commission of california has a supplier

00:51:44.240 diversity program very benign name what it is is a heavy-handed government dictate to utility 0.67

00:51:53.400 companies that if they don't employ and check off a list of uh of women-owned firms uh minority-owned

00:52:02.800 firms as suppliers law firms accounting firms consulting firms contracting firms um and gay

00:52:10.640 is a very small subset of that they uh will suffer and they will have to answer inquisition

00:52:18.740 type questions. And so this has long been the case. I wasn't aware of the gay part,

00:52:24.940 but I was very well aware that in order to get bond work from California's public utilities, 1.00

00:52:30.080 which is a multi-billion dollar business every year, be really helpful if you had four or five

00:52:35.300 black partners who are making the presentation to PG&E, Pacific Gas and Electric, or Southern

00:52:41.080 California Edison. That's how the business is handed out. Same for women-owned businesses. 0.67

00:52:45.460 and again under the recent supreme court precedents where we're no longer required to 1.00

00:52:51.120 balance the outcomes we simply have to have equal opportunity at the front end this is illegal and

00:52:55.280 it is unconstitutional and we have put california on notice yesterday that certainly private

00:53:01.720 plaintiffs could sue if they're an individual business that was not chosen for a job because

00:53:06.500 of this dumb mandate they could sue but the department of justice could also sue so we're

00:53:10.580 looking into it speaking to harmeet dylan of doj civil rights division when she heads up

00:53:16.640 about some of the latest uh enforcement actions and just priorities uh of the of the doj right

00:53:22.880 now of the of the civil rights division and and harmeet to that end what else is uh either

00:53:28.100 underway or on the horizon for issues that the department is going to take up that fall under

00:53:34.080 your uh your aegis if you will your mandate well buck we have a very interesting case that

00:53:39.540 we kicked off today and that has to do with the dominican sisters order in new york city and in

00:53:46.940 new york the state rather so they run a end of life hospice care program that provides both

00:53:52.400 prayer and also medical services of course it's a catholic uh order of nuns the state of new york

00:53:58.780 is cramming transgender verbiage uh labeling and ideology on them and requiring them to use the

00:54:05.980 preferred pronouns of people under their care, treat them and house them in bunks regardless 0.98

00:54:14.300 of their actual sex according to their gender identification. And the state law that is

00:54:20.760 requiring this has carve-outs for other institutions. So for example, the Christian

00:54:29.100 scientists only provide prayer services to end-of-life care. They're not required to do this.

00:54:33.860 There's also opt-outs for non-religious medical treatment, where if a medical provider determines in its own analysis that it is not helpful from a treatment perspective to do this, they don't have to do it.

00:54:48.600 But it's only the Dominican sisters who are being required to do this.

00:54:54.780 this is again discriminatory it violates equal protection and um the supreme court has repeatedly

00:55:00.820 held that religious institutions cannot be into these types of secular mandates that violate their

00:55:07.960 uh religious uh bonafide religious beliefs and of course a pandering to gender identity and

00:55:13.960 ideology of course does violate the most faiths so we have informed the court reminds me of the

00:55:21.100 obama administration suing the what was the little sisters of the little sisters of the poor

00:55:26.040 the uh abort a fashion mandate that they had at the time gotta make sure yeah same thing they lost

00:55:33.440 so under the local rules of the southern district of new york we have to and done we have to tell

00:55:37.580 the judge that we intend to move to intervene in that case we told the judge today uh a couple

00:55:42.140 hours ago and so uh we will be uh moving to intervene in that case and seeking to uphold

00:55:48.420 the religious liberties of these nuns. I know this is a new case in that it seems like a lot

00:55:53.520 of these bubble up very quickly, but yesterday we had Senator Josh Hawley on the program talking

00:55:58.920 about Major League Baseball potentially punishing players for writing Bible verses on their hats.

00:56:06.140 These were so-called pride hats with the rainbow that they did not necessarily want to wear. Early

00:56:12.840 on, is your office looking at this? What can you tell us about religious protections, things

00:56:18.280 such as those, maybe without specifically analyzing this case, because I think you guys are looking

00:56:23.160 into it now. Well, we are. We're looking into it. I will say first that Title VII, which is the

00:56:28.220 federal law that governs employment discrimination, we have joint and overlapping jurisdiction with

00:56:35.400 the EEOC. So my main purview in the Civil Rights Division is with public employers, and my friend

00:56:41.260 Andrea Jacobs, she's in charge of the EEOC, and they cover private employer discrimination. In

00:56:47.680 this case, Major League Baseball teams are private employers. That said, we're very interested in

00:56:53.380 making sure that the law is upheld across the board here. And here's what the law is. The law

00:56:58.660 is that, generally speaking, an employer cannot retaliate against an employee on the basis of

00:57:05.000 their religious beliefs. It is fair to have a uniformly applied sort of uniform that is required,

00:57:12.100 but if you're allowing some people to deviate with messages that you like, so for example,

00:57:16.860 not in pride month but if you're allowing players to put a rainbow pin or other slogans or blm

00:57:24.240 slogans which they did in the past which they did and you didn't fire them or take action against

00:57:30.020 them you can't now do that when you don't like the message being shown here and it's it's also

00:57:35.400 interesting even within the protesters some of the players are simply refusing to wear the hat

00:57:40.360 and apparently major league baseball is not taking action against those it's only taking action

00:57:45.740 against the ones who are wearing the hat but adding their own message of their own faith and

00:57:50.940 so this is going to be really interesting and i hope those um players lawyer up and file claims

00:57:56.200 with the eoc and state uh authorities because i believe what's going on here is a violation of

00:58:02.860 title seven on the basis of religious identification and i don't know if you are a seinfeld fan harmeet

00:58:08.940 but if you remember they tried to make they tried to make uh clay who it was uh kramer they tried

00:58:14.840 kramer wear the ribbon kramer wear the ribbon he has to wear the ribbon you wouldn't expect this

00:58:21.840 for major league baseball though well you would though i mean they're a little out of step because 0.81

00:58:26.420 i think today most americans i mean this is an era where people who are gay are very very well

00:58:32.140 accepted we have them in the administration you know and to but to force this down everyone's

00:58:37.020 throat to have to wear slogans that violate the religious beliefs of many people it seems

00:58:41.560 unnecessary i don't know why they're doing that and and look and players have rights too so

00:58:46.580 totalitarianism go ahead fascism no i was just going to say big picture you probably i i see

00:58:55.180 your mentions you get a lot of heat on social media for what you're doing um it seems to me

00:59:01.140 and i'm saying this as a lawyer that in an effort to try to address past discrimination

00:59:05.900 we swung wildly into let's discriminate intentionally in order to address past

00:59:12.580 discrimination. Do you think that we can ever recalibrate and come back to let's just treat

00:59:17.900 everybody the exact same? How long do you think something like that might happen? I know that's

00:59:23.000 your goal right now, but how would you assess where we are big picture? Well, Clay, that's a

00:59:28.120 great question. I will tell you that a little flaw in our conservative movement is that there are

00:59:32.620 not enough conservative lawyers who are willing to stand up and take the heat i have gotten a lot

00:59:37.760 of heat i have death threats for what i do uh and the anti-semitism space particularly i you know i

00:59:43.540 don't never say where i am anymore until after i've left and that's unfortunate and i think a

00:59:48.120 lot of people don't want to take that heat but i'd have to have another eight years to do this job

00:59:52.400 to fully eradicate it and another thousand lawyers but you know three quarters of the

00:59:57.820 lawyers in the department quit. We've now hired back over 100 lawyers. So we have, we're 50%

01:00:03.220 staffed. And with that 50%, I want to say that we're doing twice the work with eight times or

01:00:09.220 10 times the effect of the prior administration. This is important, Buck, because I do think there's

01:00:13.280 so many young people out there. How many young lawyers do you need to go to law school and become

01:00:19.640 conservative in this space? I mean, there's a huge demand for it. Let me tell you, there are

01:00:23.420 thousands more on the left than what we have on the right. Let's put it that way. And so

01:00:27.600 i've been doing this kind of work for decades myself and i had a non-profit and like when i

01:00:34.400 came out of law school there were no conservative non-profits doing this legal work now there are

01:00:38.100 a few there's adf and you know there's a few others there's the need is great because there's

01:00:43.240 an overwhelming just personnel advantage on the other side but i am proud to say that i've

01:00:48.120 attracted the best and brightest to the civil rights division the cases we talked about today

01:00:52.940 it's thursday it's all stuff i worked on this week lawsuits i filed things i did i didn't even

01:00:59.040 mention i was in the virgin islands not a bad place to have to have a court-ordered mediation

01:01:03.740 on tuesday over the second amendment rights of virgin islanders where they're being violated

01:01:08.600 they're not giving them gun permits as required by bruin so we're we sued them and now we're

01:01:14.320 we're gonna find out whether uh they're allowed to just pretend like the islands are not subject

01:01:19.880 to american jurisdiction all right harmy dylan doj thank you so much thanks for having me

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