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- June 24, 2025
BONUS: Daily Review With Clay and Buck - Jun 24 2025
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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Suxton Show podcast.
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Welcome in Tuesday edition.
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It's a hot one across much of the country as summer has arrived.
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The heat and the temperature hopefully getting dialed down in the Middle East as Trump,
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we hope, is going to be able to maintain a ceasefire.
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It is primary day in New York City, and New York City may be poised to elect the most
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left-wing crazy man in the history of the city.
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We will break all of that down for you.
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We're going to talk about the big, beautiful bill.
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Senator Rick Scott of Florida will join us at the bottom of this hour.
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Trump wants this done by July 4th.
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Will that occur or not?
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We will discuss Trump on his way to a, I think, a NATO meeting in Europe.
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It's hard to keep track of all the different UN, one of the things, overseas headed that way.
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We will discuss that and more.
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But we begin with the Iran and Israel ceasefire, which appears to be tenuously holding,
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even though both Iran and Israel violated it in the immediate early parts of the process of the ceasefire being put in place.
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Trump has gotten very involved.
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As we told you yesterday, everyone who told you that this was going to lead to World War III,
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you should question a lot of their decisions and a lot of their suggestions more going forward because it did not.
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And even Iran's response yesterday, as we discussed it live with all of you,
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was telegraphed and had zero impact, and it appears that the Iranian and American relationship,
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at least on some level, is now back to an even playing field with the ability of the United States
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to have wreaked havoc on Iran's long-term plans to be able to gain nuclear weapons
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at no essential cost to us at all, not one single life virtually,
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no casualties to speak of to any degree so far.
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But the ceasefire is right now underway,
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and we will get the latest as we progress throughout the course of the program
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to see whether or not it holds.
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But I did think this was interesting.
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This morning as he was leaving for the NATO event,
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Trump sounded like a dad who was just really frustrated
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because his kids won't stop fighting.
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If you are a parent, maybe you're on summer vacation right now,
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maybe you're driving around, the kids want to know when they're going to get there,
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they're hitting each other in the back, they won't keep their hands to themselves.
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This was Trump saying, they've been fighting so long,
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they don't even know what they're doing.
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Cut one.
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I'm not happy with Israel.
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You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours,
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you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them.
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So I'm not happy with them.
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I'm not happy with Iran either.
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But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning
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because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot,
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perhaps by mistake, that didn't land, I'm not happy about that.
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You know what, we have, they basically have two countries
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that have been fighting so long and so hard
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that they don't know what the f*** they're doing.
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Do you understand that?
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I understand it.
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I'm a dad.
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I imagine a lot of dads and moms understand it.
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Buck, President Trump, the dad of the world,
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just finally seems like he's fed up at the whole process.
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I thought that was very funny.
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By the way, that's this morning as he was preparing
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to embark on his trip for NATO.
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The 12-day war seems to be over.
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And that is a remarkable achievement
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given the degradation of Iranian military facilities
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and their nuclear program, most importantly of all.
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And the warnings of calamity were just that.
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I mean, they were preposterous.
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They were overwrought.
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They were absurd.
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So that is where we are right now.
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I understand people are concerned that the ceasefire may not hold
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and there could be things that happen that we don't anticipate.
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The Rumsfeldian unknown unknowns are always something to,
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well, you can't be prepared for them,
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but you just got to know that stuff happens.
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And I understand Trump having a bit of frustration as well.
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I also think that people appreciate at this stage
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that Trump is just a guy who talks like guys talk
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and says things the way that people in a similar circumstance would
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and doesn't put on this show, this facade.
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You know, he's speaking off the cuff to reporters, right?
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It's not an address to Congress, to a joint session of Congress.
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So he's letting it fly a little bit.
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But I think it's also Trump's telling both sides,
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hey, you know, I expect, you know,
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he's like the referee in the middle of the ring with two boxers.
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And he's like, no low blows, all right?
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We're ending this thing now.
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The match is over.
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Don't go over there and hit the other guy
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when he's not looking in his corner.
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So that's the way Trump operates.
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Very straightforward, very right to the point.
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Now we see what the next steps will be with the regime in Tehran.
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I think the plan here, Clay,
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people have been so concerned about regime change
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coming from Trump or the Israelis.
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I think they're going to try to negotiate with a defanged Iran.
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Say, all right, so you guys tried the whole
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we're tough guys thing, Iran.
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You tried that.
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Didn't work out well for you.
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What do you want now?
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How do you want to play the game now?
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You know, you see, I understand the Taliban's
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in charge of Afghanistan, and that's very disappointing,
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especially after 20 years of war.
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But I do think that the Taliban knows
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you guys start providing training camps for al-Qaeda
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doing something like that,
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and we're just going to lay waste to everything.
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Yeah.
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We're not going to be worried.
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Geneva Convention, good luck crying about that one.
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We're just going to go in hard and heavy
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with everything we got.
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And I think the Iranians have been sent a very clear message as well.
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The days of us being worried,
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or certainly the days of the Israelis being worried,
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about how this plays on CNN are gone.
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So how do you want things to go from here on out?
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In the Middle East, strong horse, weak horse, right?
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People want to go with a strong horse.
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They respect strength.
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That's really the only thing that Middle East regimes respect,
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to be honest with you.
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And we've seen that all throughout history.
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And I think that now we know,
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and Trump wants them all to know,
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this is the state of play.
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Now let's move toward a more sane future.
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And it's, Clay,
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that the trends in the Middle East right now
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are more positive for a sustained and durable security
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than they have been in my life, I think.
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I don't know of another time
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where there's at least the possibility.
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That doesn't mean the reality.
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That doesn't mean the certainty.
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But the trends are moving all in the right direction right now
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for the good guys.
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No doubt.
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And I think this has to be seen as a profound win for Trump.
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Now, the question that I have,
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you kind of hit at it.
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What is the ordinary Iranian thinking?
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What are they seeing?
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What is their access to the last 12 days of what's taken place?
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Because they have been sold a profound lie.
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It was that after 46 years in power,
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that the Ayatollahs had built a world
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where there was the ability of Iran
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to challenge Israel and the United States
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on some sort of global battlefield.
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That is not true.
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It is not remotely true.
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It took about one day for Israel,
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which has one-tenth the population
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and a fraction of the overall landmass of Iran,
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to completely wipe out all Iranian defenses.
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And even haphazardly firing as they were from Iran,
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I believe the math was, Buck,
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95% of all Iranian missiles that they fired into Iran,
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into Israel, were shot down.
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So, I mean, it is a case that Israel was able
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to protect itself thanks to both its technology
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and American technology
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because Iranian attacks were not targeted.
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They were not precise.
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They were attempting to inflict as many casualties
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as they could,
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whereas Israel has the technology to,
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as you said yesterday,
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hit a single floor in a single apartment building
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and not even harm anybody else
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in any other parts of the apartment building.
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That's how precise and targeted their hits were.
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And honestly, Iran is basically defenseless,
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and I wonder whether the Iranian people
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are privy to this knowledge
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and what their thoughts are
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as they are walking around waking up
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in their country in the midst of this ceasefire.
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I'll make, if I, now,
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I'm not some bright-eyed idealist
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when it comes to foreign policy,
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specifically in the Middle East,
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and having seen with my own eyes
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over many months in Iraq
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and many months in Afghanistan
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during wars,
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how messy things can get.
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I am not somebody who's sitting here,
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you know, this is,
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this is not the early days
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of the Bush administration
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when the flowering of democracy
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is going to just spread across.
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As we all know,
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that's not what happened, right?
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But I would say this.
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If you want a case for optimism here,
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I mean, the first thing is
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the guns fall silent, so to speak.
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The ceasefire holds.
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Okay, so now you're talking about in Iran
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that, I keep saying defanged,
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however you want to put it,
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is less of an external military threat,
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both, not just because of the nuclear program,
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which has been, you know,
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set back a long time.
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I know people are now saying,
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oh, but what if they move
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some of the, you know,
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enriched uranium?
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Okay.
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But also because of the destruction
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of the ballistic,
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the mobile ballistic missile launchers
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and the recognition
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that Israel knows
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where everything is, essentially.
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The Israelis had this whole country
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mapped out,
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and that's why I think
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in the opening hours,
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I mean, this was a true shock
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and awe campaign,
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but a targeted one.
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It wasn't,
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we're going to level your cities
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and then you'll wake up the next day
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and maybe you'll want to play ball with us.
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It was,
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we'll take out all of your military infrastructure,
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that's critical.
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We'll do it with the precision of a surgeon,
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and then we can have a talk.
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And your own people will see
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that we're not leveling apartment buildings,
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we're not being reckless about this.
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We are targeting you militarily
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because we are better than you militarily.
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That is what the Israelis showed
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beyond any doubt.
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So, okay,
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that's the first component of this.
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The next stage is what happens now.
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What does Trump want?
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Other than Trump telling the kids,
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misbehave yourselves
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in a very Trump way.
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No, you shouldn't,
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you shouldn't use salty language
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in front of the kids like Trump did,
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but that's, you know,
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he's talking to adults.
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But other than getting them
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to abide by the ceasefire,
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the case for optimism,
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I think,
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in Iran, Clay,
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that's realistic,
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is that now,
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remember,
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they have elections.
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Now, I know they're not
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free and fair elections,
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but, you know,
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they have some process in place.
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They have this
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Masoud Pazeshkian,
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Pazeshkian, rather,
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who is the president.
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They have something where
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now they can't, I think,
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rely on the external threat
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of Israel
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to be the constant excuse
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for why their currency sucks
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and they can't,
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you know,
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the quality of life is so low.
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Maybe for their own
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internal stability reasons.
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So, out of pure self-interest
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and cynicism,
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the Ayatollah
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and the Iranian regime
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will say,
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all right,
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we will tone it down
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for a bit,
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we will try to get
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maximum oil flow going,
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and we'll rebuild.
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I don't think
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ideologically they've changed.
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They still hate the Israelis.
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I get it.
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But they might be
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in a period here
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of contraction
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where they quiet down
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for a while.
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I think that's a reasonable
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case for optimism
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for what the Middle East
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looks like.
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I do not see
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a Tahrir Square Egypt
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2012 or whenever
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that was moment here.
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I don't see that happening,
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but you never know.
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They didn't see that happening
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in Egypt until it did.
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I would love
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if they could turn
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the internet on,
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Elon Musk,
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through Starlink
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and keep it on
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for the Iranian people
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because I don't think
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it's just seeing
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how people in Israel live
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or how people
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in the United States live.
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I think
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the embarrassment
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of seeing
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Saudi Arabia
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and Qatar
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and Bahrain
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and the UAE
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which were seen
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as inferior countries
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to Iran
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for most of world history,
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surpassing Iran
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in a major way
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is a big part
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of this story.
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I also think
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you have to give
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President Trump
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a tremendous amount
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of credit here
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for leading
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with commerce.
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The way that he
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has connected
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with the people,
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the Arab leaders
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of the Middle East
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is primarily
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through economics
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and saying,
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hey,
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let's invest
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and build together.
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They respect
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Trump's business acumen
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because they are
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trying to expand
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beyond the good gift
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that they have
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of oil in their region,
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but they understand
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that in these smarter
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countries
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with better leadership,
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oil is not going
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to create
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tremendous
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long-term
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multi-generational
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hundreds of years
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of return
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because at some point
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it's going to run out
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and they have to have
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something else
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that their economy
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can be based on
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and Iran
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has not been able
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to take that next step
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and I think it's
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because they've gotten
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bogged down
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in the purity test
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of the religious clerics
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and I wonder
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how many people
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who are Iranian
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are looking around
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and saying
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this is an embarrassment
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to us
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that other countries
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in our region,
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it's one thing
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if Israel and the United States
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are bigger and better,
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but other Arab countries,
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Arab Muslim countries,
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I think it's a humiliation
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to them.
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Well,
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there's an embarrassment
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here that the Iranian
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nation state
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has suffered
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that it is so
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militarily,
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you know,
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putting this in guy terms,
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if,
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you know,
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if you're so much stronger
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and bigger than somebody
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and you get into
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like a bar fight situation
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and you slap them
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instead of punch them,
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it's kind of worse
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in a way,
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you know,
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because if you punch,
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like you're so,
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you know,
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if you punch them,
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you may really do
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a lot of harm,
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so you might slap them.
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If a guy slaps another guy,
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in some ways,
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it's worse.
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It's such a disrespect
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that he's not even afraid
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of you being able
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to punch him back.
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He's not trying to
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knock you out.
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He's just like,
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you're a little bitch.
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I'm going to slap you
00:14:22.360
in the face.
00:14:22.940
I knew Clay would say it
00:14:24.080
if I,
00:14:24.800
yeah,
00:14:25.100
so that's,
00:14:26.320
and that's kind of
00:14:27.200
what the Israeli military
00:14:28.060
has done to the Iranian
00:14:29.020
military here.
00:14:29.700
They're like,
00:14:29.920
we're not,
00:14:30.180
we don't even have to,
00:14:31.100
we can just dismantle you
00:14:32.740
and we don't have to worry
00:14:34.360
about causing a lot
00:14:35.420
of collateral damage
00:14:36.180
or civilian casualties
00:14:37.020
because we are so much,
00:14:38.080
we are so superior
00:14:38.920
to you militarily.
00:14:40.260
Yes.
00:14:40.700
That's a,
00:14:41.240
that's,
00:14:41.640
you know,
00:14:41.780
the Iranians have
00:14:42.460
a national pride
00:14:43.380
even though they're,
00:14:44.120
they have problems
00:14:44.780
with their regime.
00:14:45.340
They had a national pride
00:14:46.100
and they're now
00:14:46.720
effectively gone
00:14:48.200
nuclear program
00:14:49.060
and their military
00:14:51.180
capabilities.
00:14:52.180
What we see is that,
00:14:53.440
you know,
00:14:53.660
whoever's got the best,
00:14:54.700
the best missiles,
00:14:55.520
drones,
00:14:56.040
radar,
00:14:56.560
comms,
00:14:57.260
planes,
00:14:57.880
et cetera,
00:14:59.000
is in a whole different league.
00:15:00.720
And so there's going to be
00:15:02.080
more internal pressure,
00:15:03.320
I think,
00:15:03.800
just more of a sense
00:15:04.840
when inside the country,
00:15:06.280
why are these clowns
00:15:07.820
in charge again?
00:15:08.740
Yeah.
00:15:09.100
They're not,
00:15:09.300
that's the question.
00:15:09.980
They're not even,
00:15:10.620
they can't even defend us.
00:15:11.980
They can't even defend
00:15:12.600
their most precious asset,
00:15:13.740
which was the nuclear program.
00:15:14.900
So why are they there?
00:15:16.100
Now,
00:15:16.460
I don't know if that turns
00:15:17.260
into overthrow or not.
00:15:19.800
I think,
00:15:20.180
you know,
00:15:20.420
that one thing that these
00:15:21.160
regimes are very good at
00:15:22.240
is preventing overthrow
00:15:24.000
because that's what
00:15:24.580
they are obsessed with,
00:15:25.660
right?
00:15:25.840
That's the thing they care
00:15:26.600
about more than anything else.
00:15:27.760
But I do think that it means
00:15:29.000
the Iranians are going to
00:15:30.260
probably play within the,
00:15:31.420
the sandbox,
00:15:32.600
so to speak,
00:15:32.980
a little more nicely.
00:15:34.640
No doubt.
00:15:35.280
Look,
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Buck is back from Europe.
00:17:22.240
Yesterday he was,
00:17:23.180
but in the event,
00:17:23.840
you missed some of yesterday's show.
00:17:26.000
He is in Miami.
00:17:27.080
So we have got
00:17:28.220
a large swath of the nation
00:17:30.700
top to bottom covered.
00:17:32.180
I am in near the northern,
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in the near the northern border.
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I think it's fair to say
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at News Talk 580 WTCM
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in Traverse City,
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Michigan.
00:17:42.720
Buck near the southern border
00:17:44.520
in Miami.
00:17:45.280
It is hot all over the country
00:17:47.500
as summer has arrived
00:17:48.980
in full force.
00:17:50.480
Mayor's race,
00:17:51.400
Democrat primary
00:17:52.720
taking place today
00:17:53.900
in New York City.
00:17:55.160
We will talk some about that,
00:17:57.120
but the number one story remains,
00:17:59.680
Iran, Israel,
00:18:01.540
the ceasefire
00:18:02.280
that as I speak to all of you
00:18:04.320
remains in effect.
00:18:07.000
And that is to a large extent
00:18:09.040
based on the work
00:18:10.260
that President Trump
00:18:11.440
did yesterday.
00:18:12.620
We played some of the audio
00:18:14.720
of Trump
00:18:15.520
basically as a frustrated dad
00:18:18.460
who's on a summer vacation
00:18:20.780
and doesn't understand
00:18:21.800
why things can't get resolved there.
00:18:25.040
But we will dive into this.
00:18:28.680
And also,
00:18:29.760
I'm going to tie this in
00:18:31.560
because the leading
00:18:33.200
New York City Democrat candidate,
00:18:36.100
Momdani,
00:18:37.120
who is a crazy left-wing socialist
00:18:40.460
who wants to run grocery stores
00:18:42.760
on behalf of the city of New York,
00:18:45.260
who wants to replace police officers
00:18:47.620
with social workers.
00:18:49.120
I mean,
00:18:49.320
this is crazy town.
00:18:52.060
He would say
00:18:53.340
that he would arrest
00:18:55.200
Benjamin Netanyahu
00:18:56.740
if he came to New York City.
00:19:00.520
I think there's a lot of you out there
00:19:02.460
that are saying,
00:19:03.340
man,
00:19:03.500
this is crazy town.
00:19:04.880
This is how Democrats are responding.
00:19:06.520
And speaking of crazy town,
00:19:07.720
I do want to run through
00:19:09.920
some things that
00:19:11.660
many people out there said
00:19:14.360
would happen
00:19:16.100
if we got involved in any way
00:19:19.060
or if Israel bombed Iran.
00:19:21.540
World War III,
00:19:23.620
Buck,
00:19:24.360
as a
00:19:25.120
former
00:19:26.440
CIA
00:19:28.240
analyst,
00:19:30.920
it seems like a little bit of a stretch
00:19:33.680
to argue that Iran,
00:19:34.920
which did not have one public ally,
00:19:38.200
not China,
00:19:39.080
not Russia,
00:19:39.860
not Saudi Arabia,
00:19:41.020
not Iraq,
00:19:42.240
not the UAE,
00:19:43.440
not Qatar,
00:19:44.740
not Syria,
00:19:46.200
no one came out and said,
00:19:48.580
hey,
00:19:49.120
we've got your back,
00:19:50.720
Iran.
00:19:51.540
But a lot of people said
00:19:52.680
this was going to start World War III.
00:19:54.400
A lot of people said
00:19:55.280
there would be thousands,
00:19:56.520
if not tens of thousands,
00:19:57.940
of American troops killed,
00:19:59.940
that your oil prices
00:20:01.340
would skyrocket,
00:20:02.540
that the stock market
00:20:04.300
would collapse.
00:20:06.160
Here is where we are right now.
00:20:08.260
Oil prices.
00:20:09.680
Oil prices have collapsed
00:20:11.640
since all of this
00:20:14.460
has been resolved.
00:20:16.060
They are
00:20:16.620
around $65 a barrel.
00:20:19.700
Oil prices,
00:20:20.880
for those of you
00:20:21.460
who have paid attention over time,
00:20:22.860
you know this.
00:20:23.840
During summer,
00:20:24.820
when everybody,
00:20:25.540
dad and mom,
00:20:26.280
grandma and grandpa,
00:20:27.100
get out on the road,
00:20:28.580
oil prices tend to go up
00:20:30.000
in the summer
00:20:30.540
and then come back down
00:20:31.700
in the fall
00:20:32.280
through the winter.
00:20:33.500
That is basically
00:20:34.500
what is happening right now,
00:20:35.980
but they are substantially below
00:20:37.760
where they were
00:20:38.700
two summers ago,
00:20:40.280
three summers ago,
00:20:41.300
for those of you out there.
00:20:42.720
As I am talking to you right now,
00:20:45.520
here is another thing
00:20:46.780
that you were told.
00:20:47.660
The economy is going to collapse.
00:20:49.480
Trump has no idea
00:20:50.380
what he's doing with tariffs.
00:20:52.560
Buck,
00:20:53.100
as I am talking to you
00:20:54.320
right now,
00:20:55.560
the S&P 500,
00:20:56.920
500 largest companies in America,
00:20:58.660
is within one-half percentage point
00:21:02.340
of its all-time high.
00:21:04.500
That means
00:21:05.540
that if you had bought
00:21:07.640
in February
00:21:08.720
at the absolute peak
00:21:11.140
of the market,
00:21:12.140
the all-time high
00:21:13.400
that had ever been set
00:21:14.800
in the history
00:21:15.580
of the stock market,
00:21:17.520
and you had done nothing,
00:21:18.980
you had just put those stocks
00:21:20.260
off to the side,
00:21:21.580
and you had paid
00:21:22.600
zero attention to it
00:21:24.180
for the past,
00:21:25.900
whatever it is,
00:21:26.540
five, six months,
00:21:27.400
four months since that happened,
00:21:29.280
you would actually have lost
00:21:31.480
on paper
00:21:32.500
about one-half of 1%.
00:21:35.480
You would still have
00:21:37.080
99.5% of your assets
00:21:39.920
even if you had bought
00:21:41.120
at the all-time high.
00:21:42.520
And by the way,
00:21:43.480
we are close to setting
00:21:44.700
a new all-time high
00:21:45.840
in which case
00:21:46.480
you would be back
00:21:47.400
in positive territory.
00:21:49.000
Just in the last couple of months,
00:21:50.640
I think this is important,
00:21:52.420
a lot of people out there
00:21:54.040
on the left,
00:21:54.900
on the right,
00:21:55.640
in media in general,
00:21:56.700
have tried to terrify you
00:21:58.640
about stock market prices.
00:22:00.380
They have tried to terrify you
00:22:02.080
about what the price
00:22:02.900
of oil and gas
00:22:03.700
was going to be.
00:22:04.660
They've tried to terrify you
00:22:06.060
about the tariff.
00:22:07.580
They have tried to terrify you
00:22:09.740
about World War III.
00:22:12.180
And as we sit here
00:22:13.480
coming up on the end of June
00:22:15.040
and hopefully what is going to be
00:22:16.100
a really fun July 4th
00:22:17.780
with Trump back in office,
00:22:19.780
I would just point out
00:22:21.120
everything's kind of awesome.
00:22:22.700
I mean,
00:22:23.820
let's be honest.
00:22:25.020
Yes, true.
00:22:26.460
It's going on.
00:22:27.260
The country's doing great right now.
00:22:29.820
And Trump has six months in here
00:22:33.800
pretty much
00:22:34.360
or close to six months
00:22:35.260
into his first or second term.
00:22:37.640
He is,
00:22:38.640
he's just kicking ass
00:22:39.740
and taking names.
00:22:40.520
And if that wasn't the case,
00:22:42.040
we would say so.
00:22:42.760
We would try to tell the president
00:22:45.120
via this show,
00:22:46.200
tell his staffers via this show
00:22:47.960
what we think could be going
00:22:49.580
in a markedly different direction
00:22:51.880
or a different focus
00:22:52.880
or whatever.
00:22:53.520
They're doing a really good job
00:22:55.020
on a whole range of things.
00:22:56.800
And I know that they haven't
00:22:58.720
gotten everything done yet,
00:22:59.740
but of course not, right?
00:23:00.620
That's a completely unrealistic
00:23:01.720
view of what could happen.
00:23:04.640
And you're never done.
00:23:05.540
As an administration,
00:23:06.420
there's endless things
00:23:07.340
that need to get work and attention.
00:23:10.040
But if you're looking at this
00:23:11.320
with a realistic eye,
00:23:12.780
Trump has had a remarkably successful
00:23:15.000
opening to term two here
00:23:17.120
or in the first few months
00:23:18.380
of term two economy is really good.
00:23:20.960
And the catastrophism,
00:23:22.540
I think has gotten old
00:23:24.400
for a lot of people that,
00:23:25.580
oh my gosh,
00:23:26.180
it used to be.
00:23:27.140
So here's the thing, Clay.
00:23:28.620
It used to be that the catastrophism
00:23:30.400
was just a constant
00:23:31.600
from the other side
00:23:33.360
as a means of trying
00:23:34.740
to create negativity
00:23:35.980
about Trump, right?
00:23:37.420
Oh my gosh,
00:23:38.380
he's talking to Kim Jong,
00:23:40.460
Kim Jong Il or Kim Jong Un.
00:23:42.620
It's all going to fall apart.
00:23:43.720
You know, it's a no, no, no.
00:23:45.660
Oh, it used to be
00:23:47.180
the Democrats are worried
00:23:48.100
about World War III
00:23:49.000
when there was no realistic prospect
00:23:50.480
of World War III.
00:23:51.700
Now we've had some Republicans
00:23:52.940
and some Trump supporters,
00:23:54.680
at least ostensibly Trump supporters,
00:23:56.360
who are screaming
00:23:57.860
about World War III.
00:23:59.100
You know,
00:23:59.440
if you have any knowledge
00:24:00.280
of World War I
00:24:00.840
or World War II,
00:24:01.880
I think you're a lot slower
00:24:03.040
to talk about World War III
00:24:04.720
because of what that
00:24:05.840
would actually mean
00:24:06.560
and what that would look like
00:24:07.360
in a modern context.
00:24:08.300
Trump knows what he's doing.
00:24:11.620
He has a very clear understanding,
00:24:14.140
I think,
00:24:14.460
of a lot of the risks
00:24:16.080
and the challenges
00:24:17.020
that go into
00:24:19.380
the thinking of people
00:24:21.340
that lets them believe
00:24:22.900
that things are about
00:24:24.060
to go completely off,
00:24:25.580
you know,
00:24:25.900
off the rails.
00:24:26.660
It's going to be a total mess.
00:24:28.160
So the faith that we all
00:24:30.220
should have in Trump
00:24:30.880
at this point,
00:24:31.620
I think,
00:24:32.820
is something that should
00:24:33.400
be a constant.
00:24:34.720
And I think that
00:24:35.560
the freak-out stuff
00:24:37.040
is just unhelpful.
00:24:39.600
Here's Trump,
00:24:40.140
by the way.
00:24:41.300
He doesn't want to,
00:24:41.900
this is cut three,
00:24:43.000
he doesn't want to hear
00:24:44.000
all this stuff now
00:24:44.960
about,
00:24:45.300
oh,
00:24:45.500
but he didn't really
00:24:47.180
take out the nuclear program.
00:24:49.180
Now that's the latest complaint.
00:24:50.680
Play three.
00:24:51.260
When I see CNN
00:24:52.240
all night long,
00:24:53.160
they're trying to say,
00:24:53.860
well,
00:24:54.440
maybe it wasn't really
00:24:55.860
as demolished
00:24:56.720
as we thought
00:24:57.380
it was demolished.
00:24:58.800
You take a look
00:24:59.420
at the pinpricks
00:25:00.300
and you see
00:25:01.300
that place is gone.
00:25:03.100
And I will say,
00:25:04.020
I think CNN
00:25:04.960
ought to apologize
00:25:05.900
to the pilots
00:25:06.840
of the B-2s.
00:25:08.140
I think that MSDNC
00:25:09.640
ought to apologize.
00:25:11.700
I think these guys
00:25:12.560
really,
00:25:13.080
these networks
00:25:13.820
and these cable networks
00:25:15.840
are real losers.
00:25:17.820
You really are.
00:25:18.500
You're real early.
00:25:19.780
The degree says
00:25:21.000
that they violated
00:25:21.740
the B-2s.
00:25:22.480
You're gutless losers.
00:25:23.720
I say that to CNN
00:25:24.900
because I watch it.
00:25:26.500
I have no choice.
00:25:27.280
I got to watch that garbage.
00:25:28.420
It's all garbage.
00:25:29.240
It's all fake news.
00:25:30.600
But I think CNN
00:25:31.520
is a gutless group
00:25:33.520
but they both
00:25:34.160
gutless losers
00:25:36.340
is a hell of a lie
00:25:37.480
by talking.
00:25:39.580
And by the way,
00:25:41.320
let's just mention this.
00:25:42.980
I've got on the screen
00:25:44.180
right now.
00:25:45.460
Trump is going to be
00:25:46.520
visiting the Royal Palace
00:25:47.840
in the Netherlands soon.
00:25:50.120
Trump is 79 years old, Buck.
00:25:52.540
You just came back
00:25:53.580
from Europe.
00:25:54.360
Now,
00:25:54.560
I know you didn't get
00:25:55.200
to travel on Air Force One.
00:25:56.860
He's probably got
00:25:57.500
a little bit better
00:25:58.160
living quarters
00:25:58.920
than you do
00:25:59.540
on your airplane flight.
00:26:02.200
But he just landed
00:26:04.060
in Europe
00:26:04.760
after spending
00:26:06.040
the last 12 days
00:26:07.860
trying to mediate
00:26:09.360
the conflict
00:26:10.820
between Israel
00:26:11.720
and Iran.
00:26:12.680
And he's immediately
00:26:14.140
going to go
00:26:15.280
to a late night
00:26:17.340
in Europe
00:26:18.100
event for NATO.
00:26:20.320
And the guy's energy
00:26:22.700
leave aside
00:26:23.920
his age
00:26:25.140
for a moment.
00:26:25.900
I don't think
00:26:27.440
most 45-year-olds
00:26:29.060
I don't think
00:26:30.160
most 35-year-olds
00:26:31.680
would be able
00:26:32.800
to keep up
00:26:33.660
with what Trump
00:26:34.500
is doing
00:26:35.160
purely from
00:26:36.660
a day-to-day
00:26:39.060
existence level.
00:26:40.200
The guy's barely
00:26:40.880
sleeping
00:26:41.500
managing every
00:26:42.400
conflict under the sun.
00:26:43.540
I think I need
00:26:44.260
naps more than
00:26:45.200
Clay does.
00:26:46.260
I mean,
00:26:46.460
sorry,
00:26:46.780
more than Trump
00:26:47.320
does rather.
00:26:48.080
I think I need
00:26:48.800
more naps
00:26:49.300
than Trump.
00:26:50.360
And I'm not
00:26:51.020
the president.
00:26:52.220
And I'm not
00:26:52.640
almost 80.
00:26:53.780
I don't know
00:26:54.160
how many of you
00:26:54.760
out there are
00:26:55.280
in your 70s,
00:26:56.260
but I think
00:26:57.020
if you are
00:26:57.780
listening to us
00:26:58.660
and you're
00:26:59.040
in your 70s,
00:27:00.600
you are even
00:27:01.360
more impressed
00:27:02.220
than the average
00:27:03.100
30 or 40
00:27:04.040
or 50-year-old
00:27:05.060
because,
00:27:05.900
you know,
00:27:06.760
if you're in
00:27:07.460
really good health,
00:27:08.780
you don't know
00:27:09.800
necessarily what
00:27:10.920
you're going to
00:27:11.280
feel like in your
00:27:12.080
70s.
00:27:12.760
The number of
00:27:13.280
79-year-olds,
00:27:14.560
first of all,
00:27:15.100
that are alive,
00:27:16.500
isn't the average
00:27:17.220
age of death
00:27:17.920
for men,
00:27:19.360
78.
00:27:20.020
I don't want to
00:27:21.340
be super dark,
00:27:22.280
but I mean,
00:27:22.600
the average
00:27:23.020
78-year-old
00:27:24.080
man is not
00:27:25.120
even alive,
00:27:26.140
all right?
00:27:26.600
79-year-old man
00:27:27.540
is not even
00:27:27.900
alive,
00:27:28.760
much less
00:27:29.400
traveling all
00:27:30.160
over the world
00:27:30.960
managing the
00:27:31.860
biggest conflicts
00:27:32.660
that are going
00:27:33.300
on anywhere.
00:27:34.880
I mean,
00:27:35.400
the guy's energy
00:27:36.100
is off the charts.
00:27:37.640
He also,
00:27:38.640
he called them
00:27:39.740
gutless over at
00:27:40.960
CNN.
00:27:42.000
And look,
00:27:42.540
I agree with
00:27:42.960
his frustration.
00:27:43.560
It's like,
00:27:44.040
oh my gosh,
00:27:44.560
if you do the
00:27:45.100
airstrikes,
00:27:45.660
World War III
00:27:46.100
is going to
00:27:46.400
happen.
00:27:47.160
Airstrikes happen,
00:27:47.960
no World War III
00:27:48.760
of any kind,
00:27:49.560
not even close.
00:27:50.360
It's pretty much
00:27:50.800
all over.
00:27:51.440
And now it's,
00:27:52.640
well,
00:27:52.760
maybe you didn't
00:27:53.340
get everything
00:27:54.000
with the airstrikes.
00:27:55.000
Like,
00:27:55.120
you can never,
00:27:56.580
you can't win
00:27:57.120
with these people.
00:27:58.140
I get his frustration.
00:27:59.940
And so Trump went,
00:28:00.760
this is cut four,
00:28:01.640
he goes further here
00:28:02.600
and just says,
00:28:03.680
guys,
00:28:04.180
okay,
00:28:04.500
they're not getting nukes.
00:28:05.660
I told you they
00:28:06.260
wouldn't get nukes.
00:28:06.980
It's not happening.
00:28:08.300
And maybe now they
00:28:09.100
actually want to make
00:28:09.680
some money and be
00:28:10.320
a normal country
00:28:11.100
a little bit,
00:28:11.900
a little bit.
00:28:12.560
Play four.
00:28:12.960
Did Iran make
00:28:14.040
any commitments
00:28:14.920
yesterday about
00:28:15.800
uranium enrichment?
00:28:17.320
About what?
00:28:17.800
About uranium enrichment.
00:28:19.460
They're not going
00:28:19.940
to have enrichment
00:28:20.780
and they're not going
00:28:21.520
to have a nuclear weapon
00:28:22.420
and they know that.
00:28:23.580
They're going to get
00:28:24.120
on to being
00:28:24.840
a great trading nation.
00:28:26.760
You know,
00:28:27.020
they're very good traders.
00:28:28.940
They're going to be
00:28:29.500
a great trading nation
00:28:30.640
and they have a lot
00:28:31.600
of oil.
00:28:32.620
They're going to do well.
00:28:33.720
They're not,
00:28:34.220
they're not going
00:28:35.540
to have a nuclear weapon.
00:28:36.580
So did they promise?
00:28:37.600
The last thing
00:28:37.900
on Iran's mind
00:28:38.760
right now
00:28:39.340
is nuclear weapons.
00:28:40.920
they want to sell
00:28:43.100
their oil clay.
00:28:44.300
They have beautiful carpets,
00:28:46.080
a lot of pistachios,
00:28:47.940
trade.
00:28:48.800
Great future for Iran.
00:28:51.560
I would love
00:28:52.660
at some point in time
00:28:54.060
to visit Iran.
00:28:56.220
I've heard that it is
00:28:57.480
a really beautiful country
00:28:59.160
with great history.
00:29:00.540
I'm going to need you
00:29:01.080
to wait on that
00:29:01.600
a little bit, buddy.
00:29:02.280
Okay.
00:29:02.700
Otherwise,
00:29:03.340
I'm going to have to talk
00:29:04.020
to our JSOC listeners.
00:29:05.520
It's going to get messy.
00:29:06.220
I'm going to have to be back
00:29:06.880
at the seventh floor of Langley.
00:29:08.380
Give it a few years.
00:29:09.200
Okay.
00:29:09.480
I don't think we have
00:29:10.300
a great affiliate in Tehran.
00:29:12.240
So I don't think
00:29:13.380
I'm going to be doing
00:29:13.960
I heart Tehran
00:29:15.020
anytime soon.
00:29:15.840
But I would like
00:29:17.940
my point on this.
00:29:18.920
I've never been,
00:29:19.740
you know,
00:29:19.940
I've been to Israel,
00:29:20.560
but I would like
00:29:21.140
to go to Saudi Arabia.
00:29:22.140
I would like to go
00:29:23.000
to the UAA,
00:29:23.840
Qatar,
00:29:24.380
Buran,
00:29:24.960
Bahrain.
00:29:25.480
I've heard it's
00:29:26.340
really incredible to see.
00:29:28.220
And I hope to be able
00:29:29.180
to go to those countries.
00:29:30.640
And I think,
00:29:31.680
again,
00:29:32.460
for the Iranian people
00:29:33.680
to think about
00:29:34.820
what the difference
00:29:36.620
is between
00:29:37.700
the last 46 years
00:29:39.680
for Saudi Arabia
00:29:40.520
or Qatar,
00:29:41.260
Bahrain,
00:29:41.620
or the UAE.
00:29:42.680
These are countries
00:29:43.400
you used to look down on
00:29:44.640
and basically thumb your nose at
00:29:47.140
because your culture
00:29:48.680
and your history
00:29:49.760
was vastly superior
00:29:51.380
to theirs
00:29:52.020
and you had a higher
00:29:52.780
quality of life.
00:29:53.860
They've all passed you.
00:29:55.160
This has nothing to do
00:29:55.960
with Israel
00:29:56.420
or the United States.
00:29:57.260
Clearly,
00:29:57.580
we live better here
00:29:58.340
than the people of Iran do.
00:29:59.680
But it's one thing
00:30:00.340
to look around
00:30:00.940
in your neighborhood
00:30:01.660
and your geographic region.
00:30:03.000
It's a little bit,
00:30:04.880
Buck,
00:30:06.440
you know,
00:30:07.280
keeping up with the Joneses,
00:30:08.560
so to speak.
00:30:09.120
Everybody talks about this.
00:30:10.680
They've fallen behind.
00:30:12.140
This is also where I think
00:30:13.400
the military inferiority
00:30:15.940
of the Iranians now
00:30:17.540
is where a lot of this
00:30:19.520
gets exposed
00:30:20.180
because you cannot have
00:30:22.620
an effective military
00:30:24.260
in 2025
00:30:25.500
without a serious economy.
00:30:28.540
It is not possible.
00:30:29.920
It's true.
00:30:30.160
You cannot compete.
00:30:31.180
It doesn't matter,
00:30:32.240
you know,
00:30:32.640
whether you think
00:30:33.440
Allah's on your side.
00:30:35.000
It doesn't matter,
00:30:35.820
you know,
00:30:36.140
what the history is
00:30:37.280
or how brave
00:30:38.060
your soldiers are
00:30:39.000
or whatever.
00:30:39.780
If you do not have
00:30:40.800
a sophisticated economy,
00:30:42.260
your military
00:30:43.220
cannot compete.
00:30:45.440
And the Iranians
00:30:46.160
have been exposed
00:30:47.660
on this one.
00:30:48.420
They've gotten
00:30:48.800
all this,
00:30:49.720
you know,
00:30:50.260
mileage,
00:30:50.880
so to speak,
00:30:51.520
strategically
00:30:52.120
out of supporting
00:30:53.420
these proxies
00:30:54.200
and it's gotten,
00:30:55.440
all it does
00:30:55.940
is just sow
00:30:56.380
further misery
00:30:57.020
and chaos.
00:30:57.640
They're not actually
00:30:58.580
expanding
00:30:59.460
Iranian influence
00:31:00.980
in a way
00:31:01.280
that helps
00:31:01.840
any Iranian people.
00:31:03.980
I actually like
00:31:04.880
your analogy
00:31:05.600
of how Israel
00:31:07.080
basically just walked up
00:31:08.220
and slapped Iran
00:31:09.060
in the face.
00:31:09.740
They didn't even need
00:31:10.200
to throw a punch.
00:31:10.740
It's true.
00:31:11.300
Not even closed hand,
00:31:12.620
you know,
00:31:12.740
not even closed fist.
00:31:13.880
They just kind of,
00:31:14.600
they slapped Iran
00:31:15.460
across the face
00:31:16.200
and they were like,
00:31:16.640
Iran,
00:31:16.960
behave yourself.
00:31:18.040
That's what the Israelis did.
00:31:20.160
Which,
00:31:20.560
if you're a guy,
00:31:21.300
all the guys listen,
00:31:22.020
no,
00:31:22.220
it's like,
00:31:23.060
I kind of would rather
00:31:23.760
get punched,
00:31:24.380
actually.
00:31:24.640
At least if somebody
00:31:26.000
throws a punch at you,
00:31:27.260
they respect your ability
00:31:28.520
that you could do
00:31:29.700
something back to them.
00:31:30.780
Right?
00:31:31.380
You punch somebody
00:31:32.160
because,
00:31:32.660
you know,
00:31:32.900
you think they could
00:31:33.440
punch back.
00:31:33.980
If you know they can't,
00:31:35.800
I mean,
00:31:36.020
Israel was like,
00:31:37.280
this is a backhand.
00:31:38.820
You know what I mean?
00:31:40.060
The back of the hand.
00:31:41.060
They basically just
00:31:41.880
took the glove.
00:31:42.640
They didn't even use the hand.
00:31:43.780
They smacked him
00:31:44.380
in the face with the glove.
00:31:45.600
It's embarrassing,
00:31:46.540
honestly.
00:31:47.460
It is tough
00:31:48.160
when you think about it
00:31:48.720
that way.
00:31:49.680
All right,
00:31:50.080
we'll take some calls
00:31:50.780
here and dive into this.
00:31:51.560
You know,
00:31:52.320
speaking about all these
00:31:53.080
countries and some of these
00:31:53.880
non-aligned countries too,
00:31:55.480
when you've got representatives
00:31:56.400
from Brazil,
00:31:57.220
China,
00:31:57.760
Russia,
00:31:58.240
India,
00:31:58.620
and yes,
00:31:59.000
Iran gathering
00:32:00.160
for a meeting
00:32:01.640
in Rio de Janeiro,
00:32:03.540
Brazil,
00:32:03.820
in just a couple of weeks,
00:32:05.340
you should ask why.
00:32:07.260
Why is that happening?
00:32:08.720
What has to do with
00:32:09.600
undermining the dollar?
00:32:12.320
The Rio reset
00:32:13.360
is what people are calling this
00:32:14.760
because these countries
00:32:15.640
are coming together
00:32:16.360
and they're trying to find
00:32:17.300
a way to start trading
00:32:19.160
without doing it
00:32:20.560
in U.S. currency,
00:32:21.640
which is a threat
00:32:22.840
to the U.S. dollar's
00:32:24.260
global dominance,
00:32:25.920
which we've had
00:32:26.360
for 80-plus years.
00:32:28.900
This Rio reset,
00:32:29.900
so to speak,
00:32:30.340
takes place on July 6th
00:32:31.480
and 7th,
00:32:32.080
and you want to remember
00:32:33.100
those because the value
00:32:34.320
of the dollar
00:32:34.860
could start to take a hit
00:32:36.220
right around then
00:32:37.660
going forward
00:32:38.800
because these countries
00:32:39.660
are laying the groundwork
00:32:40.620
to replace the dollar
00:32:41.720
and their central banks
00:32:43.400
have been divesting
00:32:44.200
from the dollar and bonds
00:32:45.380
in favor of gold,
00:32:47.420
which could also affect
00:32:48.820
the value of gold
00:32:49.840
as a commodity.
00:32:50.680
So how can you protect
00:32:52.240
your IRA or 401k
00:32:53.740
from the hit
00:32:55.060
that the dollar could take
00:32:56.280
and the upswing
00:32:57.420
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00:33:06.240
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00:33:07.200
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00:33:08.160
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00:33:38.720
one of my kids
00:33:39.340
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00:33:39.960
the other day.
00:33:40.720
An unk?
00:33:41.460
Yep,
00:33:42.120
slaying evidently
00:33:42.920
for not being hip
00:33:43.780
being an old dude.
00:33:44.780
So how do we un-unk you?
00:33:47.080
Get more people
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00:33:50.220
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00:33:50.760
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00:34:05.880
We're joined by our friend,
00:34:07.640
Mr. New York,
00:34:08.980
Mark Simone,
00:34:10.240
on at 10 a.m. Eastern
00:34:11.380
on 710 WOR
00:34:13.700
in NYC.
00:34:15.920
Mark,
00:34:16.480
you know,
00:34:16.960
you and I have known
00:34:17.420
each other a while,
00:34:18.460
and you've been saying to me,
00:34:20.300
just give it time,
00:34:21.360
you'll eventually
00:34:21.760
go back to New York.
00:34:22.640
And I gotta say,
00:34:23.320
sometimes I start to miss
00:34:24.720
the food options,
00:34:27.220
and obviously I got
00:34:28.000
family still there.
00:34:29.420
New York still has
00:34:30.180
its allure,
00:34:30.760
no question about it.
00:34:32.300
But this wacky socialist guy,
00:34:34.900
after what the city's
00:34:35.880
been through,
00:34:36.820
with de Blasio,
00:34:38.500
and then with Mayor Adams,
00:34:40.800
and now,
00:34:41.620
can this guy really win?
00:34:43.400
I mean,
00:34:43.620
bring us into
00:34:44.280
what's going on here,
00:34:45.320
because a lot of people
00:34:46.100
are looking at this saying,
00:34:47.080
how could someone
00:34:47.880
who's so far left wing
00:34:49.300
be possibly the next mayor
00:34:51.120
of America's largest city?
00:34:52.740
Well,
00:34:53.020
you could also be talking
00:34:53.820
about Andrew Cuomo,
00:34:54.880
who governed as the most
00:34:55.980
left wing kook in the world,
00:34:57.380
but you're talking about
00:34:58.080
this Momdani,
00:34:59.020
who's an actual socialist,
00:35:01.440
and Cuomo was pretty bad,
00:35:02.820
so this is the first election,
00:35:04.080
we have to pray nobody wins
00:35:05.640
this election today.
00:35:07.500
So,
00:35:07.820
yeah,
00:35:08.540
this Momdani
00:35:09.380
apparently did very well
00:35:12.720
in the early voting,
00:35:13.880
they allowed people to vote
00:35:14.760
for two weeks
00:35:15.440
before the election day,
00:35:17.520
and that was about
00:35:18.780
38% of the vote,
00:35:20.440
and he seems to be leading that,
00:35:22.640
by 10%.
00:35:24.280
Now,
00:35:24.800
he's turned off
00:35:26.740
some immigrants,
00:35:27.940
believe it or not,
00:35:28.340
Russians,
00:35:28.940
Cuban immigrants,
00:35:30.220
because he's talking about
00:35:31.060
having government-run
00:35:32.280
grocery stores,
00:35:33.440
and they say,
00:35:34.840
we grew up with socialist
00:35:36.020
government grocery stores,
00:35:37.640
they're a nightmare,
00:35:38.460
we don't want to see them again.
00:35:40.460
He's very slick,
00:35:41.980
he's very smooth-talking,
00:35:43.540
he's charming,
00:35:44.780
great campaigner.
00:35:45.940
Problem with Cuomo,
00:35:47.180
he's running a campaign
00:35:48.340
from like 1986,
00:35:49.940
you know,
00:35:50.120
with these old endorsements,
00:35:52.020
Senator Clyburn,
00:35:53.520
he had Bill Clinton
00:35:55.280
making robocalls,
00:35:56.520
you know,
00:35:56.860
to voters in their 30s.
00:35:58.820
Bill Clinton is way in the past,
00:36:00.520
it's like getting a call
00:36:01.120
from Harry Truman,
00:36:02.060
you know,
00:36:02.480
it doesn't mean anything to you.
00:36:04.840
He was bragging
00:36:05.480
about the Daily News,
00:36:06.700
the New York Daily News
00:36:07.600
newspaper endorsed him.
00:36:08.980
Most people don't even know
00:36:10.080
they still print that thing.
00:36:11.940
So,
00:36:12.300
and he's an old,
00:36:13.460
tired-looking guy,
00:36:14.460
Cuomo,
00:36:15.320
so it was pretty easy
00:36:17.240
for Momdami to get ahead of him,
00:36:18.720
and Momdami's doing
00:36:19.620
all these shows,
00:36:20.400
he was on Colbert last night,
00:36:21.980
and Cuomo has had to hide
00:36:23.900
from reporters
00:36:24.700
because of the terrible things
00:36:26.400
he's done in the past,
00:36:27.300
the baggage he has to cover up,
00:36:28.560
so he runs from reporters,
00:36:31.220
he's actually gotten
00:36:32.260
something like 10 speeding tickets
00:36:34.900
in the last few weeks,
00:36:35.620
and three or four of them
00:36:36.900
were getting away
00:36:37.580
from reporters
00:36:38.240
who were trying
00:36:38.620
to ask him a question.
00:36:41.040
I'm very anti-Momdami,
00:36:43.960
but Cuomo is no bargain either.
00:36:45.960
Wait,
00:36:46.140
can you remind everybody
00:36:47.100
why Cuomo is,
00:36:48.100
because Cuomo is sort of
00:36:49.120
positioning himself,
00:36:49.900
Mark,
00:36:50.120
as the,
00:36:50.800
you know,
00:36:51.120
I'm not the insane candidate,
00:36:52.880
the other guy is,
00:36:54.460
there's some stuff
00:36:55.540
that Cuomo did
00:36:56.420
at the state level
00:36:57.420
that affected New York,
00:36:58.260
affected all of New York State
00:36:59.580
that I think people
00:37:00.200
need to be reminded of.
00:37:01.140
Yeah,
00:37:01.400
he ran for governor
00:37:03.140
as a moderate,
00:37:03.660
but you have the list
00:37:05.300
right here.
00:37:06.240
This is the guy
00:37:06.880
that gave us
00:37:07.460
no bail,
00:37:08.280
no jail.
00:37:09.680
He pushed that like crazy.
00:37:11.100
There's video of him
00:37:11.820
pushing it.
00:37:12.620
He closed prisons,
00:37:13.860
let the prisoners out,
00:37:15.040
and there's video of him
00:37:15.960
bragging about it.
00:37:17.240
He changed the parole board,
00:37:19.020
put a bunch of left-wing
00:37:20.040
kooks on there
00:37:20.680
that let all the prisoners out.
00:37:22.560
They've let out
00:37:23.040
43 cop killers.
00:37:25.320
He took away
00:37:26.080
the qualified immunity
00:37:27.460
for policemen.
00:37:28.540
That's the protection
00:37:29.620
from being sued.
00:37:30.340
That's why we can't
00:37:31.800
hire any more cops.
00:37:33.300
He's the guy
00:37:33.920
that gave us
00:37:34.380
congestion pricing.
00:37:36.200
He was going to ban ICE
00:37:38.140
from New York State.
00:37:40.200
He threatened to sue them.
00:37:41.300
He called them thugs.
00:37:42.780
He closed Indian Point.
00:37:44.360
That's the nuclear plant.
00:37:45.540
That's 25% of our electricity.
00:37:47.640
He drove everybody's
00:37:48.500
electricity up.
00:37:49.760
He raised taxes.
00:37:51.200
We lost four congressional
00:37:53.240
seats under Cuomo
00:37:54.260
because so many people
00:37:55.120
moved out of the state.
00:37:56.860
If anybody loves him,
00:37:59.640
it's Florida.
00:38:00.240
He really did more
00:38:00.920
for Florida than New York.
00:38:02.460
I didn't even get to
00:38:03.440
killing 10,000 senior citizens
00:38:05.520
in the nursing homes
00:38:06.520
in the dumbest decision
00:38:08.300
ever made by an elected official
00:38:10.040
sending people with the virus
00:38:11.780
into nursing homes.
00:38:13.320
Okay.
00:38:13.600
All of that, Mark,
00:38:15.640
and we appreciate you
00:38:16.440
hanging out with us,
00:38:17.380
WOR listeners.
00:38:19.220
This is the first major election
00:38:21.460
since Trump.
00:38:22.820
And so people are looking
00:38:24.320
and saying,
00:38:25.600
okay, what's going to be
00:38:26.840
the outcome here?
00:38:28.340
Trump made a pretty
00:38:29.580
significant improvement
00:38:31.080
in the state of New York.
00:38:32.500
There are lots of people,
00:38:33.860
obviously,
00:38:34.300
that feel like New Jersey
00:38:35.440
could flip red.
00:38:37.760
I mean,
00:38:37.960
Trump only lost New Jersey
00:38:39.260
by about five points.
00:38:41.040
When you look at this decision
00:38:42.740
that the Democrats are making
00:38:44.540
such that Andrew friggin' Cuomo
00:38:46.840
can look like the reasonable,
00:38:49.200
rational choice for Democrats,
00:38:51.320
what does this tell us
00:38:53.240
about the party as a whole?
00:38:55.620
And also,
00:38:56.360
is this primary happening today?
00:38:59.100
Is this it?
00:39:00.140
Or let's say that Momdani wins.
00:39:02.820
Could Cuomo run as an independent?
00:39:04.760
Like, what could happen going forward?
00:39:06.740
Is there already scuttlebutt
00:39:08.640
about the larger race this fall?
00:39:11.140
And what might happen
00:39:12.360
if Momdani is the Democrat nominee?
00:39:14.660
Well, Momdani has,
00:39:16.660
in the real polls,
00:39:17.940
the internal polls,
00:39:18.840
pulled ahead of Cuomo,
00:39:19.640
which is why Cuomo has registered
00:39:21.740
as an independent.
00:39:22.920
He will be on the ticket
00:39:23.920
as an independent.
00:39:25.600
The current mayor,
00:39:26.600
Eric Adams,
00:39:27.700
is also on the independent ticket.
00:39:29.540
So you're going to have,
00:39:30.540
let's say Momdani wins,
00:39:31.760
you're going to have Momdani,
00:39:33.040
Cuomo,
00:39:34.080
Adams,
00:39:34.620
and Curtis Sliwa
00:39:35.340
as the Republican.
00:39:36.780
And there's another guy
00:39:37.860
on some party.
00:39:39.080
So it'll be the first
00:39:40.060
five-way race.
00:39:41.360
Last time that happened
00:39:42.160
was John Lindsay,
00:39:43.200
which was like early 70s.
00:39:45.480
Lindsay ran as an independent
00:39:46.860
and won as an independent.
00:39:48.760
So it is possible
00:39:50.000
to win that way.
00:39:51.600
Okay, so rank choice voting
00:39:53.020
also factors in here.
00:39:54.700
And look,
00:39:55.500
I know Alaskans
00:39:56.580
have had major issues
00:39:57.900
with this.
00:39:58.440
There are relatively few places
00:39:59.860
that do rank choice voting.
00:40:02.040
It's actually complicated.
00:40:03.680
There's talk
00:40:04.140
that it's going to take
00:40:04.960
a week or 10 days
00:40:06.720
to even figure out
00:40:07.720
what the totals are.
00:40:09.280
What can you tell us
00:40:10.280
about how the tallying
00:40:11.680
will work
00:40:12.340
and how rank choice voting
00:40:14.080
factors in here?
00:40:15.240
Well, it's a great system.
00:40:16.380
Democrats came up
00:40:17.040
with this system
00:40:17.620
so that at the end
00:40:18.420
of the night tonight,
00:40:19.200
9 o'clock,
00:40:19.760
when we see
00:40:20.240
who voted for who,
00:40:21.920
it doesn't count anymore.
00:40:23.300
So under rank choice voting,
00:40:25.160
no matter what the voters decided,
00:40:27.220
they can go into
00:40:27.860
these charts and graphs.
00:40:29.100
You could have this rank choice
00:40:30.520
explained to you
00:40:31.060
a thousand times
00:40:31.720
and still not figure it out.
00:40:33.420
It goes many, many rounds.
00:40:35.600
In fact,
00:40:35.960
in this polling,
00:40:37.600
it shows nobody could win
00:40:39.000
the first seven rounds,
00:40:40.480
which is absolutely ridiculous.
00:40:42.600
It's the way
00:40:43.520
Mom Donnie
00:40:44.080
will probably win.
00:40:44.900
And he's been more clever
00:40:46.020
understanding it
00:40:47.020
and teaming up
00:40:48.500
with other candidates.
00:40:49.340
It's kind of like
00:40:50.780
on Survivor
00:40:51.360
when you form teams
00:40:52.440
and the secret plots.
00:40:53.880
Because basically,
00:40:54.280
they're telling people
00:40:55.200
if you hate Cuomo,
00:40:56.860
just don't rank him
00:40:58.060
in any way
00:40:58.960
and try to get him
00:41:00.780
in the second,
00:41:01.560
third, fourth,
00:41:02.200
or as you just mentioned,
00:41:03.120
seventh round
00:41:03.820
of the ranked choice.
00:41:05.260
Yeah.
00:41:05.560
So with this ranked choice,
00:41:07.020
Cuomo could lose
00:41:08.160
and then he would run
00:41:09.180
as an independent.
00:41:10.940
I just don't see
00:41:12.280
Mom Donnie winning.
00:41:14.440
Curtis Sliwa
00:41:15.200
is the Republican candidate.
00:41:16.520
There is nobody else.
00:41:17.900
And he's a,
00:41:19.320
nobody better
00:41:20.220
on the subject
00:41:20.660
of crime fighting.
00:41:21.920
And I think in the end...
00:41:23.100
How is crime going
00:41:23.960
in New York City?
00:41:24.740
I mean,
00:41:24.920
Mayor Eric Adams,
00:41:26.320
former cop, right,
00:41:27.640
that's what we were all told,
00:41:28.400
is supposed to handle this.
00:41:29.640
Doesn't sound like
00:41:30.540
it's been handled.
00:41:31.380
No,
00:41:31.740
and it's been bad
00:41:32.640
for three years.
00:41:33.500
But,
00:41:34.440
great improvement
00:41:35.480
by Eric Adams
00:41:36.280
this year.
00:41:36.780
He brought in
00:41:37.440
a police commissioner,
00:41:39.000
Jessica Tish,
00:41:40.560
who has...
00:41:40.840
I used to work with Jesse.
00:41:41.840
I know Jesse, yeah.
00:41:42.940
Yeah, and you know,
00:41:43.860
she's absolutely incorruptible.
00:41:45.800
Very wealthy woman,
00:41:46.600
so she's totally incorruptible.
00:41:48.040
And there were
00:41:48.720
some bad elements
00:41:50.040
in the NYPD.
00:41:50.980
She fired them all,
00:41:52.160
fired a lot of people
00:41:53.180
the first week.
00:41:54.220
It needed to be done.
00:41:55.800
She's put in
00:41:56.780
some of the best people on,
00:41:58.960
she's created task forces
00:42:00.180
to go after this stuff.
00:42:01.140
So that's a big improvement.
00:42:02.980
Adams also brought in
00:42:04.080
Randy Mastro,
00:42:04.880
who was the top Giuliani
00:42:06.380
deputy mayor
00:42:07.960
under Rudy Giuliani.
00:42:09.620
So he's in City Hall
00:42:10.680
now running things.
00:42:11.640
So,
00:42:12.060
great improvement.
00:42:13.220
And I know Adams
00:42:13.980
is going to start campaigning.
00:42:15.480
He's been very quiet.
00:42:17.060
The current mayor
00:42:17.700
will start campaigning
00:42:18.580
like crazy tomorrow.
00:42:20.580
And who knows,
00:42:21.440
may rise up
00:42:22.100
as an independent,
00:42:23.120
might even beat Cuomo
00:42:24.000
on the independent line.
00:42:26.200
Who do you think
00:42:26.620
is going to win
00:42:27.040
this mayor's race
00:42:27.800
when all's said and done,
00:42:28.700
Mark?
00:42:29.260
Curtis Sliwa.
00:42:30.400
I think in the end,
00:42:31.580
if he gets a fair debate,
00:42:32.740
boy,
00:42:33.200
they really rigged
00:42:33.900
the debates last time
00:42:34.880
and didn't let him talk.
00:42:36.020
I love Mark's optimism, Clay.
00:42:38.980
I love optimism
00:42:40.000
via Mark here.
00:42:41.720
Okay,
00:42:42.100
so,
00:42:42.680
Mark,
00:42:43.040
let's say that you
00:42:44.120
are listening to us
00:42:45.120
and obviously,
00:42:45.840
WOR,
00:42:46.620
this is going to factor
00:42:47.300
in a big way,
00:42:48.020
New York City area listeners.
00:42:50.000
If you are nationwide,
00:42:51.500
let's say you're listening
00:42:52.240
in Phoenix
00:42:52.740
or Salt Lake City
00:42:53.740
or Houston,
00:42:54.920
one of these cities
00:42:56.280
that doesn't really
00:42:57.560
have a deep connection
00:42:58.520
to New York City,
00:42:59.320
why should people
00:43:00.340
tonight be paying
00:43:01.340
attention to what
00:43:02.300
happens in New York City
00:43:03.500
in this race
00:43:04.480
in your mind,
00:43:05.880
not only for what
00:43:06.700
it means to New York City
00:43:07.740
itself,
00:43:08.200
but for the larger
00:43:09.020
American political universe?
00:43:11.100
Well,
00:43:11.300
because the problem
00:43:11.780
is the Democratic Party
00:43:12.940
has gone nuts
00:43:13.760
and instead of the
00:43:15.040
old Bill Clinton,
00:43:15.920
Democrats,
00:43:16.500
JFK,
00:43:16.900
they've gone completely crazy
00:43:18.000
and New York City
00:43:18.860
is the barometer
00:43:19.620
where you see how crazy
00:43:20.820
they're going to go.
00:43:21.740
We gave you AOC,
00:43:23.460
all the real crazy,
00:43:24.780
so if they go this crazy
00:43:26.820
here actually voting
00:43:27.920
in a socialist,
00:43:28.680
then you know
00:43:29.660
the party's going to
00:43:30.360
go even more nuts
00:43:31.440
which will kill them
00:43:32.580
in the midterms
00:43:33.360
next year.
00:43:33.760
Do you agree with Clay?
00:43:35.460
Our buddy here,
00:43:35.940
Clay,
00:43:36.140
likes to make
00:43:36.600
the long-term predictions.
00:43:37.780
He likes to point
00:43:38.420
to the upper deck
00:43:39.760
and then switch sides
00:43:40.860
and bat left-handed.
00:43:42.040
It's never enough
00:43:43.540
of a crazy call for Clay.
00:43:45.800
He thinks Cuomo wins
00:43:47.020
the mayor's race,
00:43:49.100
I should say,
00:43:49.840
which I believe you
00:43:50.360
believe he will,
00:43:51.120
right, Clay, still?
00:43:51.980
Yeah, I'm going to
00:43:52.840
stick to that prediction
00:43:53.820
although I may end up
00:43:54.760
being wrong on that.
00:43:55.960
Cuomo wins the mayor's race,
00:43:57.660
next stop for him
00:43:58.520
is running as a Democrat nominee.
00:44:00.060
Do you see that too?
00:44:00.880
Because that would
00:44:01.280
obviously affect everybody
00:44:02.300
listening across the country
00:44:03.380
if that happened.
00:44:04.000
No, zero chance.
00:44:05.040
One thing about Cuomo,
00:44:05.920
he's a very New York,
00:44:07.100
urban guy from Queens.
00:44:08.920
I know you can say
00:44:09.900
that about Trump,
00:44:10.880
but Trump had incredible talent
00:44:13.040
as a campaigner,
00:44:13.860
which Cuomo does not have.
00:44:15.600
Not to win,
00:44:16.640
but to run as a candidate
00:44:18.300
in 2028.
00:44:19.620
Like, I think this is about
00:44:20.740
setting the foundation
00:44:22.000
for him to be able
00:44:23.100
to argue he has a comeback
00:44:24.440
and throw his hat
00:44:25.520
in the Democrat ring.
00:44:27.020
Yeah, he was a total outcast here.
00:44:28.540
You know, I forgot to mention
00:44:29.220
he left office in disgrace.
00:44:30.800
There was also,
00:44:31.480
besides the sex scandal,
00:44:33.000
ethics committee ruled against him
00:44:34.740
for profiting off the pandemic.
00:44:36.420
But by running for mayor,
00:44:38.340
he's made himself legitimate again,
00:44:40.080
at least that he's
00:44:40.600
a legitimate candidate.
00:44:41.980
I don't think he could ever
00:44:43.020
get the nomination in 2028.
00:44:44.160
I don't think anybody who does
00:44:45.920
would put him on the ticket
00:44:46.840
because they figure
00:44:47.720
they're winning New York.
00:44:48.560
They don't need him for that.
00:44:49.660
They'd have to pick another state.
00:44:50.800
And he's got a lot of baggage.
00:44:53.680
OK, Mom Donnie wins.
00:44:55.880
Let's say that happens.
00:44:57.080
You got people like Buck Sexton
00:44:58.720
with money who were like,
00:45:00.300
New York, I'm done.
00:45:01.420
I'm going to Florida.
00:45:02.560
Ron DeSantis made a joke.
00:45:04.320
He said the best thing
00:45:05.220
that could happen
00:45:05.780
for Palm Beach property values
00:45:08.240
is Mom Donnie winning
00:45:09.860
the New York City mayoral race.
00:45:12.180
Do you hear,
00:45:13.180
because you've been doing
00:45:13.700
New York City radio
00:45:14.540
for a long time,
00:45:15.420
you know a lot of people.
00:45:16.700
Do you hear wealthy
00:45:17.840
New Yorkers say
00:45:19.000
if Mom Donnie wins,
00:45:20.520
this is it.
00:45:21.340
Like they're just fed up
00:45:23.200
and done.
00:45:23.800
Do you buy that
00:45:24.620
that will have
00:45:25.500
a major tax revenue
00:45:27.240
for lack of a better way
00:45:28.400
to describe it impact?
00:45:29.600
Because the number
00:45:30.600
of rich guys and gals
00:45:31.880
bailing on New York City,
00:45:33.340
I mean, they're the ones
00:45:34.000
who are failing,
00:45:34.900
who are funding
00:45:35.640
to a large extent
00:45:36.840
what they see
00:45:37.700
as a failed city.
00:45:38.920
Oh, yeah.
00:45:39.260
A lot of them have said
00:45:40.040
they'll leave.
00:45:40.440
In fact, one went public.
00:45:42.140
John Katsimatidis owns
00:45:43.220
a hundred supermarkets
00:45:44.640
in New York.
00:45:45.020
He said, I will close them.
00:45:46.180
He said, I'll move
00:45:46.720
my business into New Jersey.
00:45:47.900
Wait, Kats said
00:45:48.780
that he would bounce
00:45:49.640
on New York City
00:45:50.520
if Mom Donnie wins?
00:45:51.480
I didn't know that.
00:45:52.260
That's wild.
00:45:53.240
Yeah.
00:45:53.560
He owns a lot of supermarkets.
00:45:54.900
He said, I'm not going
00:45:55.680
to compete with...
00:45:56.280
Yeah, I will not compete
00:45:57.460
with the government.
00:45:58.560
And he's not the only one.
00:45:59.520
He just went public
00:46:00.440
and said it,
00:46:00.880
but a lot of others
00:46:01.460
have said it privately.
00:46:03.060
And again,
00:46:03.800
about three million people
00:46:05.160
left under Cuomo
00:46:06.260
as governor.
00:46:06.980
In fact, we had a crisis.
00:46:08.620
You couldn't get
00:46:09.120
a moving van
00:46:09.780
for almost a year.
00:46:10.720
There was a shortage
00:46:11.280
of moving vans
00:46:12.000
under Cuomo,
00:46:12.780
and we did lose
00:46:13.720
four congressional seats
00:46:14.760
because of it.
00:46:16.600
Oh, man.
00:46:17.220
Well, let's hope
00:46:18.940
Curtis Sliwa pulls off
00:46:20.260
the greatest,
00:46:21.060
a Trump-level political
00:46:23.240
come-from-behind victory here.
00:46:25.860
The greatest comeback
00:46:26.820
of all time.
00:46:28.040
Otherwise, New York
00:46:28.800
could be in for some rough stuff.
00:46:30.060
7-10-W-O-R,
00:46:31.540
10 a.m. Eastern.
00:46:32.380
Mark Simone,
00:46:33.060
Mr. New York.
00:46:33.800
Sir, appreciate you.
00:46:35.140
We'll talk to you soon.
00:46:35.980
Thanks.
00:46:36.300
Love listening to you guys.
00:46:38.860
Same.
00:46:40.180
Mark, also,
00:46:40.940
have you ever listened
00:46:41.360
to Mark's callers,
00:46:42.580
by the way,
00:46:43.020
represent when they call
00:46:44.200
into his show
00:46:44.820
all the different accents
00:46:46.980
of all the different
00:46:47.880
boroughs and counties
00:46:49.260
around New York
00:46:50.000
perfectly.
00:46:50.820
You get the Long Island guys
00:46:52.120
calling in,
00:46:52.660
the Staten Island guys.
00:46:53.220
When I did my last book,
00:46:54.600
I went in into our New York,
00:46:55.920
because he's in the same building
00:46:56.860
for people who don't know
00:46:57.860
where we can use
00:46:58.940
in New York City
00:46:59.540
if we happen to be there.
00:47:01.160
I think this is a big,
00:47:03.000
I mean,
00:47:03.280
I understand people say,
00:47:04.120
oh, New York City mayor,
00:47:04.960
why do I care?
00:47:06.040
I think if Mom Donnie wins,
00:47:07.960
it's a holy crap moment
00:47:10.100
for the Democrats.
00:47:10.560
It's an indicator
00:47:11.040
for Democrats nationwide.
00:47:13.320
All right.
00:47:13.700
Thanks, Mark.
00:47:14.220
Thank you so much.
00:47:15.360
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even on things anti-Trump,
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would coalesce
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much of the Democrat Party.
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They just tried to impeach Trump
00:49:26.980
over the Iran attacks.
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They lost the vote 344 to 79.
00:49:34.460
That's a pretty good ass kicking,
00:49:36.240
but let me simplify it
00:49:37.540
this way for you, Buck.
00:49:39.400
Democrats.
00:49:40.920
Democrats voted against
00:49:42.600
impeaching Trump 128 to 79.
00:49:46.780
I mean, that's kind of a sign
00:49:48.520
of how crazy the AOC wing
00:49:50.800
of the party is.
00:49:51.900
They can't even mobilize
00:49:54.080
the Democrat Party
00:49:55.800
to move in conjunction
00:49:57.940
with the positions
00:49:58.960
that she's advocating for.
00:50:00.800
Think about this for a second.
00:50:02.720
There are Democrats
00:50:03.600
who just voted
00:50:04.480
in the United States Congress
00:50:05.680
to impeach,
00:50:07.180
for a third time,
00:50:09.740
a sitting president
00:50:11.000
for doing something that,
00:50:13.640
one,
00:50:14.100
is clearly within the scope
00:50:16.220
of what every president
00:50:17.280
in our lifetime has done,
00:50:18.760
and without Democrat
00:50:20.140
and Republican,
00:50:20.820
and two,
00:50:22.860
has been incredibly successful.
00:50:25.720
So this is pure desperation.
00:50:30.000
It shows that
00:50:30.820
where the Democrat Party
00:50:31.900
is right now,
00:50:33.740
they're in such a weak spot
00:50:36.640
that they're just
00:50:38.760
throwing stuff at the wall
00:50:40.440
to see what sticks.
00:50:41.380
They're trying to figure out
00:50:42.600
some way
00:50:43.660
to seem relevant
00:50:45.800
as opposition to Trump.
00:50:48.300
I always used to wonder this, Clay.
00:50:49.680
Will there be a point
00:50:50.660
at which, you know,
00:50:51.680
never-Trumpism
00:50:52.600
and the hysteria
00:50:53.800
and he's Hitler
00:50:54.580
and all that stuff
00:50:55.380
will exhaust itself?
00:50:57.720
It has exhausted itself
00:50:59.460
as a useful political force.
00:51:01.880
They still believe
00:51:03.100
a lot of crazy stuff
00:51:04.060
about Trump.
00:51:04.560
I'm not saying
00:51:04.980
they've changed their minds,
00:51:05.940
but they can't move
00:51:08.640
any middle portion
00:51:10.500
of the electorate
00:51:11.440
at all.
00:51:12.060
Not even one or two percent
00:51:13.280
of it
00:51:13.500
with this crazy stuff
00:51:15.160
that they're doing.
00:51:16.420
And so they're just at the
00:51:17.640
we-gotta-do-something phase.
00:51:19.600
But this is firing
00:51:21.060
a BB gun
00:51:21.640
at a freight train.
00:51:23.020
Also,
00:51:24.200
the whole Hitler thing,
00:51:26.100
Trump has 100% approval
00:51:29.460
in Israel now.
00:51:30.880
Like, literally,
00:51:31.580
I'm not even kidding.
00:51:32.440
It might be 96% approval.
00:51:34.460
There has never been
00:51:36.040
an American president
00:51:37.320
with a higher approval rating
00:51:39.700
in Israel than Trump.
00:51:41.840
Now,
00:51:42.760
Israel didn't exist
00:51:43.880
as a country
00:51:44.740
at the time of World War II.
00:51:47.200
But I'm going to go out
00:51:48.400
on a huge limb
00:51:49.320
with a crazy take for you.
00:51:51.480
Hitler never came close
00:51:52.840
to 100% approval
00:51:54.020
with the Jewish population.
00:51:56.020
Just going to,
00:51:56.780
maybe outlandish,
00:51:58.160
maybe outrageous.
00:51:59.560
I'm just going to toss
00:52:00.500
this out there.
00:52:01.600
And obviously being facetious
00:52:03.160
about this whole thing,
00:52:03.880
but the idea
00:52:05.060
that Adolf Hitler,
00:52:06.280
a.k.a.
00:52:07.140
Trump,
00:52:07.760
would have 100% approval rating
00:52:09.760
among Israelis
00:52:11.320
would be,
00:52:12.340
in a large extent,
00:52:13.580
a sign that your argument
00:52:14.860
is moronic
00:52:15.640
on a level
00:52:16.300
that few political arguments
00:52:17.780
have ever been
00:52:18.500
in our respective lives.
00:52:20.800
By the way,
00:52:21.420
Trump arriving
00:52:22.220
at the Royal Palace
00:52:23.560
in the Netherlands,
00:52:25.200
stepping out
00:52:26.220
of his beast limo
00:52:27.860
to walk the red carpet
00:52:30.080
for the NATO event
00:52:31.420
as we are speaking
00:52:32.340
to all of you
00:52:33.360
right now.
00:52:34.940
And again,
00:52:35.980
the numbers out there,
00:52:37.480
128-79.
00:52:38.880
I do think this is
00:52:39.840
significant too, Buck.
00:52:41.640
You mentioned,
00:52:42.680
like,
00:52:42.820
when is the Democrat Party
00:52:43.820
going to end up
00:52:45.680
acknowledging
00:52:46.540
that many of their arguments
00:52:47.820
are broken?
00:52:49.100
Also,
00:52:49.680
who is even
00:52:50.240
the Democrat Party
00:52:51.200
spokesperson?
00:52:52.400
Listen to Jasmine Crockett
00:52:53.880
here,
00:52:54.580
talking about how
00:52:55.460
she should be
00:52:56.280
the one making decisions
00:52:57.700
about how we deal
00:53:00.340
with Iran and Israel.
00:53:01.520
Cut 14.
00:53:02.480
To understand enough
00:53:03.580
about the Constitution
00:53:04.520
to the extent
00:53:05.400
that I'm the one
00:53:06.280
that's supposed to
00:53:06.940
make the f***ing decision
00:53:07.920
or at least get a vote.
00:53:15.820
Because Ron is telling me.
00:53:18.440
Okay,
00:53:18.940
so she's ranting
00:53:20.120
and raving.
00:53:21.200
Worth pointing out,
00:53:22.760
there are also
00:53:23.940
people on the right
00:53:25.280
who have tried
00:53:26.000
to argue
00:53:26.620
Trump did not have
00:53:27.660
the authority
00:53:28.220
to do these strikes
00:53:29.700
in Iran
00:53:30.400
and I think
00:53:31.560
they're also operating
00:53:32.720
in bad faith
00:53:33.620
because clearly
00:53:35.400
the President
00:53:36.480
of the United States
00:53:37.920
has the ability
00:53:39.000
to act in American interest
00:53:40.860
that he believes
00:53:41.740
requires exigent circumstances
00:53:43.840
as all American presidents
00:53:45.900
throughout our entire lives
00:53:47.500
have done.
00:53:48.940
Was it 14 bombs
00:53:50.400
that Trump dropped
00:53:51.680
compared to thousands
00:53:53.500
that Obama dropped
00:53:54.940
during his tenure?
00:53:55.900
Yes,
00:53:57.540
I mean,
00:53:58.000
ordered to be dropped
00:53:59.140
obviously.
00:54:00.000
Yes,
00:54:00.140
yeah.
00:54:01.280
Trump leading out
00:54:02.700
the side of the B-2 bomber.
00:54:04.760
He's a talented guy.
00:54:06.440
I don't think he would have
00:54:07.160
hit the target very well
00:54:08.360
if he had been in charge
00:54:09.380
of the B-2 bombers.
00:54:10.920
But,
00:54:11.220
I mean,
00:54:11.860
the idea that you're going
00:54:12.940
to try to argue
00:54:14.280
that this was outside
00:54:16.000
of control,
00:54:16.740
but listen to this cut too,
00:54:18.100
cut 15.
00:54:19.260
This is Jasmine Crockett
00:54:20.380
who's trying to,
00:54:21.280
Trump put a big post
00:54:22.160
out about AOC
00:54:22.920
and Jasmine Crockett
00:54:24.060
and Elon Omar
00:54:25.840
and all these people
00:54:26.520
who have emerged
00:54:27.160
as his top attackers,
00:54:29.120
I would say,
00:54:29.840
inside of the Democrat Party.
00:54:31.040
Cut 15.
00:54:32.020
So,
00:54:32.360
long story short,
00:54:33.320
for those of you
00:54:34.480
that are unaware,
00:54:36.160
the Mofo
00:54:39.600
that resides
00:54:41.140
in the White House
00:54:42.680
has unilaterally,
00:54:46.200
in my estimation,
00:54:49.080
declared war.
00:54:50.900
We have a constitution
00:54:52.180
that seemingly
00:54:53.680
does not matter
00:54:55.220
to this man.
00:54:59.440
I mean,
00:55:00.100
the Mofo,
00:55:00.700
first of all,
00:55:01.200
you guys can probably,
00:55:02.220
if you're older,
00:55:02.860
maybe you haven't heard
00:55:03.560
that phrase,
00:55:04.340
she's calling him a mother,
00:55:05.380
you know what.
00:55:06.320
I mean,
00:55:06.620
so that's kind of
00:55:07.620
a pretty good attack
00:55:08.540
in terms of the absurdity of it.
00:55:11.160
But it's not only that
00:55:12.240
there's no Democrat opposition,
00:55:14.680
it's that the Democrat opposition,
00:55:16.720
Buck,
00:55:17.340
is not even representative
00:55:18.560
of the Democrat Party now.
00:55:20.060
They can't even marshal
00:55:20.960
100 votes in the House.
00:55:23.200
I mean,
00:55:23.380
I would bet
00:55:24.640
that Congresswoman Crockett
00:55:26.700
has never read
00:55:27.360
the U.S. Constitution
00:55:28.680
in its entirety.
00:55:30.000
Ever.
00:55:30.820
I mean,
00:55:31.140
ever.
00:55:31.460
I don't mean like
00:55:32.160
she doesn't know it by heart.
00:55:33.600
I mean,
00:55:33.780
I don't think
00:55:34.100
she's ever read it.
00:55:35.080
Neither read nor understood.
00:55:36.960
I think also
00:55:37.820
if you gave her a map
00:55:39.180
of the Middle East
00:55:40.680
with just blanked out countries
00:55:42.920
and you said,
00:55:44.100
just show me Israel,
00:55:44.840
show me Iran,
00:55:45.540
I think the chance
00:55:46.200
that she could get both of them
00:55:47.300
is almost zero.
00:55:48.680
So,
00:55:49.320
I don't think
00:55:50.320
that she should be
00:55:51.000
weighing in heavily
00:55:51.880
on the issue
00:55:53.700
of the constitutional powers
00:55:55.780
of the executive branch
00:55:57.120
in this conflict,
00:55:58.000
but
00:55:58.520
she knows
00:55:59.540
that she raises money
00:56:00.460
and gets media attention
00:56:01.300
by hating Trump,
00:56:02.200
even on an issue
00:56:03.720
as we've said.
00:56:04.880
There's clear precedent
00:56:06.140
for this kind of action.
00:56:07.300
Bill Clinton
00:56:07.840
blew up
00:56:09.120
an aspirin factory
00:56:10.620
in the Sudan.
00:56:11.700
I think it was
00:56:12.020
because there was testimony
00:56:12.780
about to happen
00:56:13.600
in the Monica case
00:56:14.520
or something
00:56:14.980
because he said
00:56:16.100
maybe there were
00:56:16.640
chemical weapons there.
00:56:17.760
Spoiler alert,
00:56:18.380
there were not.
00:56:19.280
We weren't at war
00:56:19.840
with Sudan
00:56:20.360
and nobody was
00:56:21.340
impeaching him
00:56:21.880
over that.
00:56:22.380
So,
00:56:23.720
you know,
00:56:24.380
you look at this stuff,
00:56:26.140
like every president
00:56:27.000
has this,
00:56:27.680
I know he said
00:56:28.180
it's in the imminent
00:56:28.760
national security interest
00:56:30.300
because we thought
00:56:30.780
there were chemical weapons
00:56:31.500
or whatever.
00:56:33.400
It's just about opposing Trump,
00:56:34.940
but even on an issue
00:56:35.880
where it's a massive success,
00:56:38.800
right?
00:56:39.040
This is generally,
00:56:40.340
for example,
00:56:41.300
for example,
00:56:42.240
would any Republican
00:56:42.980
have come out
00:56:43.580
after Obama,
00:56:44.740
look,
00:56:45.640
Obama got bin Laden.
00:56:46.960
It's just a fact.
00:56:47.800
People can,
00:56:48.440
you know,
00:56:48.740
they can be annoyed
00:56:49.680
about that reality,
00:56:50.760
but he did.
00:56:51.320
Obama got bin Laden.
00:56:52.880
Were Republicans
00:56:53.720
coming out like,
00:56:54.500
how dare you violate
00:56:55.740
the sovereignty
00:56:56.600
of Pakistan?
00:56:58.020
The national sovereignty
00:56:59.440
of Pakistan
00:57:00.200
is sacred to us.
00:57:01.720
No,
00:57:02.300
because we're all like,
00:57:03.400
you know what?
00:57:04.060
Thank you for getting bin Laden.
00:57:05.280
And it probably got Obama,
00:57:06.560
at least in some part of it,
00:57:08.000
reelected,
00:57:08.740
right?
00:57:09.640
They're kind of doing
00:57:10.580
this,
00:57:10.860
that here now.
00:57:12.060
The dance is similar
00:57:13.280
with the Democrats
00:57:14.100
where they're saying,
00:57:15.040
you know,
00:57:15.140
how dare you strike
00:57:15.960
the Iranian nuclear facilities?
00:57:17.100
We have been
00:57:18.380
talking and debating
00:57:20.420
and fretting
00:57:21.480
over this issue,
00:57:22.340
Clay,
00:57:22.760
for 20 plus years.
00:57:24.840
What are we going
00:57:25.380
to do about Iran?
00:57:25.940
What are we going
00:57:26.280
to do about Iran?
00:57:26.840
Trump's like,
00:57:27.300
you know what?
00:57:27.660
Let's blow up there.
00:57:28.300
Let's blow up there.
00:57:28.880
I tried to give them a deal.
00:57:29.860
They wouldn't take a deal.
00:57:30.520
Let's take this thing out.
00:57:31.880
And they did it
00:57:32.400
and it's done.
00:57:33.200
And we didn't lose
00:57:33.880
a single American.
00:57:34.740
And now we're supposed
00:57:36.400
to do what?
00:57:36.940
We're going to impeach him?
00:57:38.600
We're going to remove him
00:57:39.880
from office
00:57:40.500
for the thing
00:57:41.220
that we wish
00:57:42.280
somebody else
00:57:42.780
would have done?
00:57:44.640
Makes no sense.
00:57:45.400
It's crazy also
00:57:46.200
because there's
00:57:47.160
nowhere near 67 votes
00:57:49.260
even if they win
00:57:50.660
the House in 2026
00:57:52.340
and impeach him.
00:57:53.140
It's not going anywhere.
00:57:53.980
It's pathetic, right?
00:57:55.240
It's a pathetic move.
00:57:56.140
Yeah.
00:57:56.380
It's silly.
00:57:56.740
Like there is no,
00:57:57.600
I will point out this.
00:57:59.040
Yes,
00:57:59.580
Obama deserves credit
00:58:00.580
for taking out
00:58:01.200
Osama bin Laden.
00:58:02.180
But every time
00:58:02.960
that comes up,
00:58:03.600
I think we should
00:58:04.140
also mention
00:58:04.760
the secondary part
00:58:05.620
of that,
00:58:06.040
which was Joe Biden
00:58:07.460
opposed that race.
00:58:08.460
Oh, of course.
00:58:09.680
I know.
00:58:10.020
Joe Biden was wrong
00:58:12.280
on every major decision
00:58:14.480
basically of his entire career.
00:58:17.560
Obama considered
00:58:19.040
Biden's analysis
00:58:20.500
of taking out
00:58:22.120
Osama bin Laden
00:58:23.000
and said,
00:58:23.600
you moron,
00:58:24.200
we're going in.
00:58:25.660
I give Obama
00:58:27.660
full credit for that
00:58:28.580
and I don't do
00:58:29.000
some throat clearing
00:58:29.720
about,
00:58:30.100
oh,
00:58:30.260
but it was so obvious.
00:58:31.400
No, no.
00:58:32.660
You know,
00:58:33.000
he did it
00:58:33.520
and look,
00:58:34.180
he got four more years
00:58:35.000
to wreck the country
00:58:35.740
as a result of one good decision,
00:58:37.160
at least in part.
00:58:38.500
But he gets credit
00:58:40.000
for being the commander-in-chief
00:58:41.000
when he went and got bin Laden
00:58:42.000
and there's no way around that.
00:58:43.080
That's reality.
00:58:43.820
Okay, another reality though, Clay.
00:58:45.680
We haven't really focused much
00:58:46.980
on the Biden book stuff
00:58:48.120
because, you know,
00:58:49.180
I think a lot of that
00:58:49.940
got taken care of.
00:58:50.820
But I have seen
00:58:51.480
some clips circulating.
00:58:52.800
You know what they're saying now?
00:58:53.780
Not just that Biden had dementia.
00:58:55.620
We knew that, right?
00:58:56.520
We talked about this.
00:58:57.460
We've got on the ad nauseum.
00:58:58.920
Now what's coming out is
00:59:00.200
Biden was a scumbag
00:59:01.760
his whole life
00:59:02.260
and a huge liar
00:59:02.980
and a manipulator of people
00:59:04.700
and even his own family
00:59:06.920
and using them as props.
00:59:08.700
Like, Democrats are saying this.
00:59:10.080
Now, stuff that you
00:59:10.800
and I have been saying.
00:59:11.540
I told people about the
00:59:13.060
the drunk driver,
00:59:14.680
excuse me,
00:59:15.620
what Biden said
00:59:16.800
was a drunk driver
00:59:17.520
because his wife.
00:59:18.320
Absolutely zero evidence
00:59:19.340
for it whatsoever.
00:59:20.100
A horrible thing to say,
00:59:21.780
but he said it in public.
00:59:22.740
Why?
00:59:23.120
Because it made his case
00:59:23.900
seem even more sympathetic.
00:59:24.960
His wife, it looks like,
00:59:25.720
ran a red light.
00:59:26.280
It was, you know,
00:59:27.100
it is a tragedy,
00:59:28.500
but I mean,
00:59:28.880
well, you know,
00:59:29.400
she made a mistake
00:59:30.100
and she paid with her life.
00:59:31.820
But he lied about it
00:59:32.940
to get more sympathy
00:59:33.640
and therefore defamed
00:59:35.760
somebody who was still alive,
00:59:37.060
I might add,
00:59:38.180
as some kind of a criminal
00:59:39.220
who killed his wife
00:59:39.940
and he's never apologized
00:59:41.460
or but that's just one incident.
00:59:43.540
That's who Biden is
00:59:45.420
and that was 40 years ago
00:59:47.520
he was doing it.
00:59:48.320
I, as a dad,
00:59:50.100
I know everybody wants to say,
00:59:51.800
oh, Joe Biden's
00:59:52.420
the greatest dad ever.
00:59:53.420
I looked at his kids
00:59:55.040
in that he may get dressed
00:59:57.760
in suits in their hospital beds
01:00:00.340
so that he could get
01:00:01.900
for the grossest photo op imaginable
01:00:04.700
so that he could get sworn in
01:00:06.440
for the Senate
01:00:07.260
in their hospital room.
01:00:09.740
I mean, as a dad,
01:00:11.060
I can't even imagine
01:00:12.740
doing that.
01:00:14.260
So he could be wrong
01:00:14.940
on everything in foreign policy
01:00:16.140
in the U.S. Senate
01:00:16.900
for 50 years
01:00:17.640
and be a shill
01:00:18.280
for the credit card companies
01:00:19.400
to suck the bank accounts
01:00:20.900
drive every American
01:00:22.000
who needs to buy groceries.
01:00:23.360
Like, is that,
01:00:24.120
that was his great contribution?
01:00:25.900
You know, think about that.
01:00:27.420
No, I mean,
01:00:28.440
and again,
01:00:29.400
I think that his
01:00:30.620
four-year tenure,
01:00:31.980
I think this is one thing
01:00:32.800
that Trump got right,
01:00:34.400
which is Jimmy Carter
01:00:36.140
had a more successful presidency.
01:00:37.900
No, I think I was going to say,
01:00:39.220
I think Biden is the worst president
01:00:41.300
in living memory.
01:00:44.000
I think he beats out Jimmy Carter
01:00:45.620
pretty clearly now.
01:00:47.540
And I think he's going to look
01:00:49.060
even worse in the years ahead
01:00:50.800
as the,
01:00:51.940
this is one of the great things
01:00:52.800
about history.
01:00:53.440
Eventually, the passions fade
01:00:55.040
and you start to look at people
01:00:57.060
rationally and realistically
01:00:58.880
as opposed to thinking about them
01:01:00.840
in the moment of a battle.
01:01:02.420
And I think that Democrat defense
01:01:04.940
of Joe Biden is going to collapse
01:01:06.980
because it really wasn't praising Biden.
01:01:09.140
It was attacking Trump.
01:01:10.860
And now that Trump,
01:01:12.400
people see it as hollow.
01:01:13.660
They see how hollow it was all along.
01:01:15.820
And I think that even the COVID thing,
01:01:17.780
the fact that they hit him
01:01:18.800
and all these other aspects
01:01:21.160
of his presidency
01:01:22.080
that are frankly indefensible,
01:01:23.400
I think are going to become
01:01:24.400
more and more commonplace
01:01:26.400
for discussion.
01:01:27.700
We'll take some of your feedback,
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some of your responses here
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