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00:00:36.180 On Newt World Podcast, we're celebrating America's 250th birthday.

00:00:40.680 And I ask my guests how they're spending their 4th of July.

00:00:44.540 Brett Baer.

00:00:45.520 I will be working. I'll be in Washington because it's a big, big day.

00:00:50.300 Jared Isaacman.

00:00:51.200 I plan to be flying in an F-5 fighter jet painted in Freedom 250 colors along with four other fighter jets flying over the nation's capital.

00:00:59.200 Listen to Newt's World on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:01:06.180 As America marks its 250th anniversary, we're looking back at two and a half centuries of rebellion and liberty through the eyes of the heroes who defended it.

00:01:15.200 The whole thing about this country is freedom.

00:01:18.780 If we're not careful, we could lose that.

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00:01:57.920 view heading into our nation 250. Clay did start texting in from the beach yesterday and I told him

00:02:05.400 that phone in the canvas beach bag and enjoy himself but if he has any other thoughts I'm

00:02:12.140 sure he'll share them today during the program with the team we have a lot to discuss. The

00:02:19.920 aftermath of socialism night in NYC our friend Ryan Gerdusky will join on that as well in the

00:02:26.780 third hour I think it's the third hour yeah so we'll be talking to him about the data because

00:02:32.600 here's where some of you took this said well Buck but so few people voted and it's such a small

00:02:37.780 snapshot and it's such a crazy area of a crazy city politically New York yeah but I want to give

00:02:46.080 you some other other perspective on that and that oftentimes it's the very committed crazies

00:02:53.840 who change a whole lot of the world around them.

00:02:58.960 It's not about being popular all the time, my friends.

00:03:01.680 It's just about getting enough power,

00:03:04.080 getting that first beachhead, if you will,

00:03:07.020 and then a lot of things can happen.

00:03:08.740 We also had Trump at the Great American State Fair

00:03:15.980 where I'm sure he had delicious cotton candy,

00:03:19.480 the most delicious, some people are saying,

00:03:21.740 it's pink, it's beautiful cotton candy,

00:03:23.840 I'm actually wondering, what would be, before I found out that I had celiac disease,

00:03:29.900 I think fried dough was my go-to, which has got to be one of the worst things you could possibly eat at it.

00:03:36.460 I think cotton candy is healthy compared to fried dough, because cotton candy is pure sugar,

00:03:41.780 whereas fried dough is sugar plus dough, which is basically just more sugar fried in oil, which is fat.

00:03:47.280 But it's delicious. It is delicious. So maybe fried dough.

00:03:52.660 But aren't there, like, some Italian versions of fried dough that people eat at, like, the San Lorenzo Festival or whatever it's called in New York?

00:04:00.940 Producer Mike, help me out.

00:04:01.920 You know what I'm talking about?

00:04:03.080 San Marino?

00:04:03.880 San Marzano?

00:04:04.700 What is it?

00:04:06.140 There's some...

00:04:07.280 Gennaro.

00:04:08.840 I was going through all the Sands.

00:04:11.600 Sorry.

00:04:12.400 The San Gennaro Festival.

00:04:13.860 Because they have, like, fried dough, but they have a cool name for it, so it's delicious.

00:04:17.620 Anyway.

00:04:18.800 And Zeppeli?

00:04:20.760 Is that right?

00:04:21.500 Yeah.

00:04:21.840 Yeah, that's just fried dough, but it's delicious.

00:04:25.220 But we have our American version of that.

00:04:27.320 I have really enjoyed, I will say, I've been watching some of the,

00:04:30.780 really, I watched the 20-minute versions of the World Cup matches,

00:04:34.940 so I can see all of them, and I can't spend three hours watching every game.

00:04:39.620 But I've seen a lot of them.

00:04:41.220 But also the people that are visiting America that are finding out

00:04:45.180 how amazing Texas is, for example, and just how much fun, cool stuff there is,

00:04:49.900 how nice texans are and the cultural uh whether it's the rodeo stuff the horses the you know all

00:04:56.700 kinds of fun stuff or people visiting in you know here in south florida or new york wherever

00:05:01.500 uh so that's been that's been really fun watching all that uh yeah we've got a stacked show i got

00:05:07.120 to start i want to jump jump right into this because it's uh it matters it was a good day

00:05:13.140 at the supreme court some decisions came down i'm gonna i'm gonna give you good news bad news here

00:05:19.060 but it's three bits of good news and then one bit of possible bad news but let's start with

00:05:26.220 the good news right let's get into that uh supreme court came down with some important decisions the

00:05:33.400 first one and i think this is probably the best most important one is mullen v doe now this is

00:05:44.140 all about temporary protected status temporary protected status emphasis on the temporary

00:05:53.900 and that is a humanitarian program notice whether it's this or asylum which we're going to talk

00:06:00.820 about in a second there has been a clear effort a concerted campaign over many years now to abuse

00:06:09.240 the humanitarian impulses of the American people

00:06:13.720 and humanitarian statutes to skip to the front of the line,

00:06:17.940 take advantage of us, get access to welfare benefits, 0.65

00:06:21.300 and pretend that you're a humanitarian case

00:06:23.600 when really you just view America as a soup kitchen.

00:06:29.380 People show up, they get their stuff,

00:06:31.680 they don't have to love this place, they don't have to obey the laws.

00:06:34.860 Temporary protected status was supposed to help people

00:06:38.380 who were essentially in a war-torn or natural disaster zone, right?

00:06:43.880 So if there's an earthquake that kills tens of thousands of people

00:06:47.560 and destroys all the infrastructure,

00:06:49.980 we'll let some people come here because we're nice.

00:06:52.760 That's really, there's no benefit to us, to be clear, to the American people.

00:06:56.980 This is a Americans being nice thing.

00:07:01.520 And we extended temporary protected status many times in the past,

00:07:07.980 And sometimes it goes for years. Sometimes it goes for decades.

00:07:13.920 And that's where you start to say, well, how temporary is this really?

00:07:17.280 Clearly, there have been people in this whole thing who have thought to themselves, I can stay forever.

00:07:25.640 And the open borders Democrats view this as a way of getting us to a forever, getting people to a forever status. 0.91

00:07:32.800 So in 2025, the Trump administration ended TPS for Haiti specifically, and they had had it for a number of years, and finally Trump said, okay, Haiti's doing well enough that Haitians can go back now.

00:07:52.820 Remember, the program was never supposed to be you skip the immigration system altogether, you just get to stay here forever, hence the temporary protected status. 0.66

00:08:01.540 But you see, no good deed when it comes to immigration, no good deed goes unpunished.

00:08:08.620 And here they sued.

00:08:11.240 They sued a bunch of, you know, the usual, like, you know, NGOs and stuff like that.

00:08:18.940 They brought suit saying, really, that there's a violation of the Administrative Procedures Act,

00:08:26.600 which is just Democrats speak for, yes, you have this authority.

00:08:30.200 yes you're in power but i don't like what you're doing so i'm going to pretend that there was some

00:08:36.060 box on some paperwork somewhere you were supposed to check that you didn't it's it's just a pure

00:08:44.620 tactic of bureaucracy it's just the administrative procedure like oh you didn't do enough

00:08:51.640 uh consultation it's arbitrary and capricious they said it lacked consultation

00:08:59.220 and uh amazingly enough there were of course courts that just think that america should take

00:09:06.840 in especially non remember democrats don't like the white immigrants who have been let in last

00:09:11.860 year under asylum or they've come here as refugees from south africa those they don't like but if 0.57

00:09:19.320 you're a non-white uh immigrant in any capacity whatsoever who did not come through the normal 0.78

00:09:24.960 immigration process the democrat party thinks you should stay forever so uh there were the 0.73

00:09:32.260 supreme court brought together um a couple of these different cases took this up and also by

00:09:41.500 the way venezuelan temporary protected status is affected by this so the the court held 6-3

00:09:47.500 justice alito writing the opinion of the court he basically just said that the process claim here

00:09:54.780 is not reviewable that a judge can't just say well i get to determine that you didn't think

00:10:03.060 about this long enough executive branch and so since you didn't think about it because that

00:10:07.980 just means that the judge now has control over immigration policy which is preposterous so that

00:10:13.400 didn't fly and the other part of it is an equal protection claim essentially some of the uh lower

00:10:20.700 courts were saying that you're just doing this because you don't like Haitians, Trump.

00:10:27.160 That's what it was, that there was a racial animus in this.

00:10:30.540 Well, that doesn't fly because there have been other temporary protected statuses that

00:10:37.460 have been revoked that have nothing to do with Haiti or Haitians.

00:10:40.780 And so, sure enough, the executive branch can say, we'll let you stay for a while, but

00:10:46.240 then we can tell you it's time to go.

00:10:47.800 And they get to make that determination.

00:10:49.160 So you'll notice this was not a hard case when it comes to the law, but Kagan, Sotomayor, Jackson, the leftists pretending, the leftist legislatures pretending to be judges all went against it.

00:11:09.000 So that's one.

00:11:10.240 The other case that came down, so that was a 6-3, the other case that came down here, also a 6-3, noticing a pattern, had to do with the Immigration and Nationality Act, which provided that an alien who arrives in the United States may apply for asylum and be inspected by immigration officers.

00:11:30.180 So back in the first Trump administration, Department of Homeland Security had a metering, which effectively meant a turn back policy of, look, we can only allow 100, 500, whatever the number is, people at this port of entry today to present themselves for an asylum claim because we're swamped.

00:11:52.420 We just can't handle all the rest of the people that are showing up.

00:11:57.060 Now, keep in mind, these are people who aren't actually, in any legal sense, asylum seekers. 1.00

00:12:02.280 They just want to come to America, skip the immigration line, and stay here forever. 1.00

00:12:05.300 That's the whole point. 1.00

00:12:06.440 They don't show up, 70, 80, 90% of them don't show up for their actual hearing. 0.73

00:12:10.980 They just disappear into the American interior. 0.98

00:12:13.460 This became a huge bad faith scam that allowed millions, millions of illegals to just come

00:12:20.740 to americans and and the democrats all the time are saying but it's humanitarian it's about asylum

00:12:25.160 no it's not just want to be in america and i get that that doesn't make people bad people by the

00:12:29.860 way i i don't i i'm not uh shocked that there are people who would rather live here than uh be

00:12:38.800 impoverished in honduras or deal with the regime in cambodia or you know whatever the case may be

00:12:47.040 I get it. But we have a country here that we're trying to maintain and we have laws.

00:12:52.640 So in this in this border case, you had asylum seekers, quote unquote, and of course, a nonprofit.

00:13:01.600 Oh, always these nonprofits sued, saying that anybody, even if they're in Mexico, even if they have not been able to cross onto American soil,

00:13:11.700 if they are in the vicinity of a port of entry that should mean they have the right to present

00:13:18.640 themselves for asylum so if you have a thousand people show up at a port of entry they all have 0.97

00:13:24.700 to be brought into america so that they can brought on physically brought onto american soil

00:13:30.100 so that they can um say that they're asylum seekers and pass that the initial credible fear test

00:13:38.460 which I've been down to the border, I've seen this myself,

00:13:41.220 they have wristbands that the cartels give them,

00:13:43.220 they've been coached to say just the words,

00:13:46.060 I have a credible fear of violence in my country,

00:13:48.360 the Biden administration let this just turn into a total free-for-all.

00:13:53.800 The whole thing is a scam.

00:13:56.440 But again, 6-3 holding here, Justice Alito,

00:14:00.440 joined by Roberts, Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett,

00:14:04.160 said that the statutory words arrives in the United States

00:14:11.740 actually means arrives in the United States.

00:14:17.040 And we actually have the ability at the border to say,

00:14:21.020 you can't come in right now, we can't process you, you have to wait.

00:14:29.880 That was all this really came down to.

00:14:31.800 The Ninth Circuit, I might add, which is, of course, the craziest federal circuit, the

00:14:36.240 Ninth Circuit said, said, no, you have anyone who get if you have 10,000 people, which we

00:14:43.940 know there have been caravans with 10,000 people all want to be at one port of entry. 0.98

00:14:48.140 They all have to be brought through that port of entry to America onto American soil so

00:14:54.200 that they can have their asylum processing done.

00:14:56.560 so we can't even have a bureaucrat you know we can't even have a sort of bureaucratic

00:15:03.260 distinction of how many people we can process at a port of entry if you get there you get to come in

00:15:09.440 that was the game now imagine by the way if you had the ninth circuit say hey you can't make

00:15:15.700 people wait 10 minutes to come into come through customs and immigration that's unfair they're

00:15:20.680 americans if they're americans they should just i mean some of you probably love this idea actually

00:15:25.120 I think I kind of do.

00:15:26.540 But the point is it's not in their power to do that.

00:15:29.720 It's not, a judge does not have the authority to say you have to process people even faster

00:15:36.080 than you currently are because they shouldn't have to wait. 0.86

00:15:40.460 So if you can't do that with American citizens, why would you do that for foreigners? 0.81

00:15:44.460 For illegals in this case. 0.84

00:15:47.040 And I didn't even get into the whole notion of defensive asylum, which is when people

00:15:50.980 cross illegally.

00:15:52.200 This is for people who are trying to go to a port of entry through the legal entry way.

00:15:57.760 There is illegal crossing, which tons of people were doing, and then they turn around and say, I want defensive asylum, they call it, which is where you basically get to skip even the port of entry line.

00:16:09.100 But we made this harder because we had border patrol set up, and now the Trump administration has been turning people away.

00:16:13.960 But the point here is 6-3, you can't tell our ports of entry that they have to process 10,000 people who show up all at once because some judge says so.

00:16:27.020 You also can't say that the Trump administration doesn't get to make temporary protected status for Haitians temporary because Sotomayor thinks Trump doesn't like Haitian people, which is basically what the whole claim here was.

00:16:42.380 That's it.

00:16:43.960 6-3, 6-3, another decision, not as big, but also something else in the legal realm that I want to talk to you about here in a second.

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00:20:44.300 We have a lot to dive into in the aftermath of those election results in that primary in New York City.

00:20:53.620 And I understand there's a bit of a debate and the people on the right feel somewhat, some of them feel differently about this.

00:21:00.940 there's the who cares it's new york it just happened in a and it's a small amount of voters

00:21:06.840 and it's just a congressional primary and a few state assembly seats and all this

00:21:10.960 the other side of it though is there's a trend here isn't there of incredibly radical far left

00:21:20.820 and really destabilizing and hateful individuals now they always say of course that we're hateful

00:21:28.800 I don't hate anybody. I mean, I hate people doing very bad things, but I don't approach politics with hate in my heart for anyone. I think people are very wrong. I think there are evil decisions and I think there are evil people, but I don't approach this with the desire to like get at my enemies or anything like that.

00:21:52.580 I don't think conservatives do that in general.

00:21:55.520 There are a lot of leftists who really do.

00:21:58.520 Because they're not motivated.

00:22:00.660 This is a good way to put this.

00:22:02.980 I think of politics and I think of the conversation that we have,

00:22:08.160 the dialogue, the discourse, however you want to phrase it.

00:22:11.600 What is the beating heart of constitutionalism, of MAGA, Trumpism,

00:22:18.460 all these things?

00:22:19.320 trying to make this country the best it can possibly be for as many of us as can possibly

00:22:26.540 have it be great and to do good things for people. It really comes from a place of

00:22:34.080 positivity and that is the underlying. There's not something beneath that.

00:22:41.320 The problem you have with these leftists is that the actual foundation, yes, they'll talk a lot

00:22:46.660 about justice and social justice and wanting to help people but it's really about resentment

00:22:51.360 they resent people that they think are more successful than them are more powerful than them

00:22:58.540 are happier even because there are obviously plenty of far leftists with so much money you

00:23:03.640 know billions and billions of dollars but they're miserable they sense or they lack rather a sense

00:23:10.860 of purpose they lack uh that confidence and calm that can only come from feeling like you are the

00:23:18.660 person you are supposed to be and whether you are a street sweeper or a founder ceo billionaire

00:23:26.680 you're happy with who you are um you think that you're doing the right things day to day

00:23:33.420 leftists don't have that and that is really i think the wellspring of their ideology and of their

00:23:40.200 emotional fragility, if you will. And it's why they embrace ideas that allow them to think

00:23:50.240 that they are inherently better than other people. Right. I want a safe. Let me give you an example

00:23:57.500 of this. Right. I want a safe America. I want safe streets. I don't want anyone in America

00:24:06.100 anywhere of any color to walk down the street and be worried am i going to be robbed stabbed

00:24:12.820 rape any of these things and there are policies that i believe should cut should come from that

00:24:19.600 now i know that's not possible in the sense that there's going to be criminals there's going to be

00:24:23.080 although it can be very very low i told you the most in some ways incredible other than the

00:24:29.620 high geopolitics stuff when i went with our friend steve yates nation states with yates

00:24:34.580 He was my Taiwan Sherpa, if you will.

00:24:38.240 I know I'm kind of mixing Nepal and Taiwan there, but you get it.

00:24:41.660 He was my Taiwan Sherpa.

00:24:44.160 And to be in such a high-trust, low-crime society was really eye-opening

00:24:50.520 because we have way too much crime and disorder and decay and madness here.

00:24:54.560 It does not have to be that way.

00:24:56.780 You can be in a place where a crime happens

00:25:00.220 and it's almost like someone, you know, getting eaten by an alligator

00:25:05.480 or killed by a group of, you know, wild pigs.

00:25:09.000 That happens, but it happens like twice a year in this country

00:25:13.360 or something like that.

00:25:14.260 I mean, it's very rare.

00:25:16.140 I don't know how often those wild boars actually get people.

00:25:18.820 It's rare, though.

00:25:19.420 It's rare.

00:25:20.040 They're mean.

00:25:22.380 Instead, what the left has, and I'm going to tie this all into the New York City thing,

00:25:27.880 But what the left has is, I think that billionaires and millionaires and billionaires, and now a trillionaire, I don't like them because they have more than me.

00:25:40.700 And I think, again, I'm speaking from a leftist perspective, and I think that they victimized people to get what they have through capitalism, of course.

00:25:50.660 And I want them to have less.

00:25:53.160 i want them to be punished by the state even if it doesn't see this is the difference even if it

00:26:00.220 doesn't have the intended outcome of funding more schools or bringing down the price of rent or any

00:26:10.440 of these things you see the leftist approaches these as hurt the people i don't like i want to

00:26:18.980 vote for people, I want to put people in power

00:26:21.040 so that they can hurt people

00:26:22.860 that I'm resentful

00:26:25.140 of. Whether

00:26:26.880 it's for

00:26:27.600 racial reasons, religious reasons,

00:26:31.280 economic reasons,

00:26:32.920 gender, whatever it may be.

00:26:35.220 I have a resentment 1.00

00:26:36.560 and I want you to get them.

00:26:38.820 I'm going to cover this up, of course,

00:26:41.400 with my

00:26:42.280 pretense of extreme

00:26:44.720 altruism. Oh no, I really just

00:26:46.500 want to help the poor.

00:26:48.680 Look at all the examples of this.

00:26:51.400 We can take a really big example.

00:26:55.020 You know, the Affordable Care Act, for example,

00:26:57.760 which every single analysis of health care now,

00:27:00.780 there's no question, there's no doubt,

00:27:02.340 made health care more expensive for everybody

00:27:04.460 who actually buys their own health care

00:27:05.820 or pays for their own health care in any capacity.

00:27:08.220 So unless you're totally on welfare, health care welfare,

00:27:12.080 it has made it less affordable for you.

00:27:14.260 But the people behind that think, yeah, that's good.

00:27:17.920 they won't tell you that.

00:27:20.560 They'll say, oh, man, wow, if only Republicans had done this,

00:27:24.220 or it's actually great anyway.

00:27:25.920 But ultimately, this goes back to, I think it's a Churchill quote.

00:27:32.120 Sometimes I get my Churchill and my Thatcher quotes mixed up,

00:27:36.340 as the Internet does too, I might add.

00:27:39.580 But that capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings,

00:27:43.400 but socialism is the equal sharing of misery.

00:27:46.120 that's really the point it doesn't matter if the policy doesn't work it hurts the people that they

00:27:54.340 the left want hurt so once you understand those deep psychological roots now because now you'll

00:28:00.320 see well hold on a second how could trump just put more cops on the street so to speak i mean

00:28:07.960 federal fusion fbi and other agencies tasked to work with state and local law enforcement

00:28:13.480 brought the crime, violent crime, way down in D.C.,

00:28:16.600 brought the violent crime numbers way down in Memphis.

00:28:20.040 Well, people who are like Chevalier,

00:28:23.820 who just won this primary in New York's 13th Congressional District,

00:28:28.280 they would say, yeah, but that's not, we ultimately shouldn't do that

00:28:35.880 because we have to accept that more people are going to die

00:28:43.460 and be killed as victims of crime

00:28:47.760 so that we don't make anybody of any group feel like they're being targeted

00:28:54.360 or that it's unequal or, you know, brings up icky feelings.

00:29:00.660 They want to pay that price.

00:29:03.260 They think people should pay that price, and they make it very, very vague.

00:29:08.480 But ultimately, like I said, the equal sharing of misery,

00:29:12.080 they want to spread as long as the misery is spread around they think they've achieved something

00:29:16.740 and that then brings me to these uh protesters this just happened last 24 hours this is from

00:29:26.420 the new york post listen to this dozens of protesters descended on a hate-mongering

00:29:33.440 brooklyn coffee shop wednesday morning after it publicly vowed to refuse service

00:29:39.500 to a pro-Israel politician and its owner's social media posts

00:29:44.840 comparing Israel to Nazi Germany came to light.

00:29:49.260 They chanted, End Jew Hatred, and this shall not stand,

00:29:54.240 as they were confronted by a smaller group of counter-protesters,

00:29:58.340 many of them rabbis from Jews United Against Zionism,

00:30:02.780 who waved Palestinian flags and loudly denounced Israel through a bullhorn. 0.98

00:30:10.360 You are a Zion Nazi terrorist, one rabbi wearing a kefeya 0.97

00:30:16.360 and holding a Palestinian flag repeatedly shouted inches from the face of a pro-Israel protester 1.00

00:30:22.320 who replied, oh, you have very bad breath.

00:30:26.200 Okay, well, there you go.

00:30:27.980 Besides, angrily clashed on the sidewalk in front of Poetica Coffee Shop

00:30:31.980 and Park Slope, at times shouting in each other's faces

00:30:35.600 until the NYPD stepped in and separated them into separate areas.

00:30:43.260 So, by the way, the DOJ Civil Rights Division

00:30:46.380 is looking at this coffee shop for not serving somebody

00:30:51.300 because he's Jewish.

00:30:54.440 But this is what I wanted to do.

00:30:55.820 By the way, the guy who owns this place,

00:30:57.720 is his name is Parviz

00:31:00.260 Mukhamid Kalav

00:31:02.240 it's got to be like

00:31:04.200 Central Asian I don't know if that's like

00:31:06.220 Turkmen or Kazakh

00:31:08.160 or something 1.00

00:31:08.980 pretty good guess from the Buckster I bet you'll

00:31:12.140 check that one out point here is my

00:31:14.200 friends

00:31:14.620 why would you not I mean

00:31:17.920 think about the mentality you're going to

00:31:20.160 not serve somebody

00:31:21.220 because 0.90

00:31:23.700 you know they're Jewish

00:31:25.680 and you don't agree with their positions on Israel,

00:31:31.280 is that going to change anything?

00:31:34.460 No, but it's just about spite.

00:31:36.580 You're not going to change policy.

00:31:37.960 In fact, you might have the opposite effect.

00:31:40.180 It's just about spite, being nasty, being hateful. 0.98

00:31:44.000 And then think about these other protesters, some of them Jews. 1.00

00:31:46.300 I mentioned this yesterday. 0.99

00:31:46.980 There are Jews who are virulently anti-Israel 1.00

00:31:51.380 and are collaborators with anti-Semites.

00:31:55.680 This is a very real thing. 0.71

00:31:57.620 I'm completely aware of this.

00:32:01.220 There are these strange situations that you would not expect.

00:32:07.780 It reminds me, when I tell people,

00:32:10.020 do you know that there were black Americans before the Civil War?

00:32:13.840 Not many, but there were documented black Americans who owned slaves.

00:32:18.200 Who owned black slaves.

00:32:20.260 Something that you will not be taught in school.

00:32:22.700 I never learned that in school.

00:32:23.940 I learned that on my own.

00:32:24.640 But because, of course, then you start to realize, hold on a second.

00:32:29.200 So slavery is actually a very widespread practice all around the world and that it is an inherent evil.

00:32:33.840 But it's not an inherent evil that was only in the United States and only of one race.

00:32:37.700 And anyway, think about for a moment the mentality of showing up somewhere in New York and comparing Israel to Nazi Germany.

00:32:50.980 The owner of this store compares Israel to Nazi Germany.

00:32:57.820 Talk about an upside-down view of the world.

00:33:02.500 And talk about, unfortunately, a really depraved and deranged understanding of history and the present.

00:33:11.740 But this is, once again, not about policy. 0.84

00:33:16.420 It's not about support for Israel.

00:33:20.980 I wonder what it's really about.

00:33:23.180 As I told you yesterday, I've been called a Jew on social media now

00:33:28.340 so many times in the last year just for being consistent in what I believe

00:33:32.020 and viewing this thing, this conflict, with the moral lens that I think is appropriate.

00:33:40.680 And like I said, I take it as a badge of honor.

00:33:42.440 I don't back away from it.

00:33:43.660 I'm not Jewish, but fine by me.

00:33:47.860 And they say it, of course, usually with expletives.

00:33:50.080 It's quite clear.

00:33:50.960 They don't mean it in a nice way.

00:33:53.380 But I sit here and I have to tell you that whether it's this coffee shop owner

00:33:57.180 or others, he has resentment.

00:34:00.560 I don't know necessarily.

00:34:02.160 I don't know the guy, but he has resentment and he's been told that Jews

00:34:06.380 control this and Jews are really successful and Jews, you know,

00:34:10.740 have all these things and Jews are the reason that, you know, 0.65

00:34:14.280 housing prices are so high or Jews control the banking system or whatever 0.63

00:34:17.700 the the the direct you know the pathway of anti-semitism is that he's latched on to

00:34:25.540 and then the whole israel thing and opposing the israel policy for someone like this if you're

00:34:29.800 comparing israel to nazi germany i'm not saying hey you know can you can you uh criticize settlement

00:34:36.140 policy without being an anti-semit of course there are a lot of jews who do that in fact 0.60

00:34:39.520 tons of jews in israel do that but someone like this israel is like nazi germany yeah 0.93

00:34:47.500 eh, you don't like Jews. 0.94

00:34:50.620 You know? 0.84

00:34:51.220 Quite clear.

00:34:52.320 It's about resentment.

00:34:53.400 It's not about policy.

00:34:54.400 It's about I don't like those people,

00:34:56.120 and I want to find a policy prism

00:34:58.800 through which I can throw things at them

00:35:01.540 and pretend it's not just about some innate hate.

00:35:05.600 It's not just about I have a distaste for these people,

00:35:09.520 a dislike, a, you know, a bigotry.

00:35:15.340 There's the word. 0.69

00:35:16.260 it's about oh if only they had done things differently in gaza let me tell you something

00:35:20.980 right now none of the people who are complaining the loudest about israel in gaza none of them

00:35:29.340 would have thought there was any way for israel to defend itself by uprooting hamas after the

00:35:38.160 october 7th attacks there was no way that they would have done that that would have been acceptable

00:35:42.300 to those people so it's just a waste of time trying to placate them trying to explain it

00:35:47.180 their problem isn't with israel's conduct in gaza their problem is with the jews you see

00:35:55.880 leftists once you understand that the mind disease that they have you can diagnose it you can see it 0.59

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00:37:31.200 Ryan Gerdusky, our Klanbuck Numbers guy, he joins now.

00:37:38.360 It's a numbers game.

00:37:40.000 This is his fantastic podcast on all things, political and otherwise,

00:37:44.360 on the Klanbuck Podcast Network.

00:37:46.720 And he's also got the National Populist Newsletter on Substack.

00:37:49.240 Mr. Gerdusky, great to have you, sir.

00:37:52.460 Thank you.

00:37:53.620 Are you recovered?

00:37:54.400 I know you'd had a fever.

00:37:55.880 Would you get like a summer flu?

00:37:58.040 No.

00:37:58.520 No, it was one of those typical things where a relative brings their sick child around you

00:38:03.380 they know is sick and everyone gets ill afterwards.

00:38:06.600 It was one of those things.

00:38:07.660 But among men, things are copyrighted.

00:38:09.800 Yeah.

00:38:10.120 Good, good, good.

00:38:11.060 Okay, well, is America on the mend after Socialism Night in New York just a few days ago?

00:38:19.080 First, what were your top-level observations? 1.00

00:38:22.240 I mean, this Chevalier chick is definitely nuts. 1.00

00:38:25.040 I mean, she's a wacko. 1.00

00:38:26.800 There were some others that were in the mix. 0.89

00:38:28.520 What matters looking at this stuff to you?

00:38:32.700 I think when you look at her, I call her a DAC because it's easier.

00:38:36.620 The woman who ran against Espelot in Harlem, in the Harlem District, Harlem and part of the Bronx. 0.91

00:38:43.560 Part of that race that no one is talking about is the fact that the black part of Harlem really always had a very negative relationship with Espelot.

00:38:52.240 Because Espelot, 10 years ago, ran against a former congressman, Charlie Rangel.

00:38:58.260 Charlie Rangel, for those who don't remember, his most famous thing in his life was he didn't pay taxes, even though he wrote the tax code because he said it was too complicated.

00:39:05.820 He's dead now. It doesn't matter.

00:39:07.200 But anyway, that district was historically a black district and a black representative.

00:39:12.840 Espelot challenged him, saying there's more Dominicans than blacks now. 0.91

00:39:17.180 This should be a Dominican district. 0.95

00:39:19.160 Black political leaders and black voters, older voters in that area, never forgave him for that ever.

00:39:24.920 So he should have been doing better, even among people who don't care about socialism.

00:39:31.080 But he underperformed Cuomo by a good measure in the black parts of Harlem and the urban parts of Harlem.

00:39:37.940 Something that really struck me, though, when I broke down precinct by precinct was really the turnout level in these heavy transplant, high college educated, very far left districts.

00:39:50.260 So in that same district, in the district I talked about in Harlem and in South Bronx, in the parts like by Columbia University in the area north of that, Morningside Heights, where it is very trans, up transplants, very white for northern Manhattan, but a lot of other people, high income, high college education.

00:40:13.120 The average precinct, election precinct, which is only just a couple blocks long, had between two and six hundred people show out in each precinct.

00:40:23.820 And there's dozens of precincts in that area.

00:40:26.820 The Bronx, for example, which is Espelot's area that he was very strong in, there rarely broke 100 votes per precinct, sometimes maybe at most 150.

00:40:37.380 But the turnout numbers were very lopsided in favor of where a socialist was running and a DSA candidate was running.

00:40:46.460 Over in Brooklyn, over in the other district where Valdez was running, the only people to really mobilize and vote against the DSA and show up in big numbers were the Hasidic Jews.

00:40:58.140 They did show up in big numbers against the DSA candidates, but there just weren't enough of them.

00:41:02.540 Most of them actually live in Hakeem Jeffries' district.

00:41:04.580 And this also goes to show over in Grace Meng's issue. Grace Meng is an Asian-American congresswoman, Democrat from Queens. She is very unnoticeable. No one knows any of her record whatsoever. She is a very small part of the commie corridor in her district. 0.69

00:41:22.500 Nonetheless, in her Asian-majority district, she only won by 15 points because in the Asian-predominant precincts over in Chinatown and Flushing, Queens, over in the ethnic white neighborhoods out near Whitestone or Middle Village and parts of Glendale, the average turnout was 80 to 100 people per precinct.

00:41:46.200 Over in the commie corridor area, there were 300 to 400 persons per precinct.

00:41:53.040 So the turnout intensity, Democrat turnout nationwide has been high.

00:41:58.100 But among those people who are mobilized by socialism, it is near presidential level turnout, even for these kinds of midterms.

00:42:07.960 And the average blue-collar, working-class Democrat, many of them who are either ethnically white or black and Hispanic, have nowhere near that intensity whatsoever.

00:42:20.400 So I saw this. DSA co-chair, this was a quote circulating on X.

00:42:25.740 We're using the Democratic Party as a ballot access vehicle, not because we share its goal.

00:42:30.780 This is from the Democrat Socialists of America.

00:42:34.320 we build our own organization get elected on the democratic label caucus with democrats when it's

00:42:41.420 useful and push our own agenda from the inside we see the democratic establishment as an obstacle

00:42:47.000 not a home the dsa how powerful is it in new york elsewhere is this part of the leftward lurch of

00:42:56.120 the party what do you see well in new york in new york is the is the goal is the crown gem of the

00:43:03.140 dsa network right nowhere is it more powerful than in new york city especially in the quote

00:43:08.960 unquote commie corridor where almost every single district wait what's the commie i'm from new york

00:43:14.500 what's the commie court you used to live in astoria is that part of the commie corridor

00:43:17.920 what's the commie corridor the commie corridor stretches it's every part of brooklyn and

00:43:22.760 manhattan that touches the water across from manhattan so it stretches from astoria queen

00:43:28.740 to Sunset Park, Brooklyn, that entire strip that goes out of the water.

00:43:33.580 Every people, all the people who couldn't afford to live in Manhattan anymore back in the 90s

00:43:38.380 that moved to Williamsburg, they have extended themselves throughout the entire, everything

00:43:43.260 that touches the water that goes to Manhattan, and they are all very far left.

00:43:47.920 So all the way up from the top of Astoria, all the way down to Sunset Park and Bay Ridge,

00:43:52.560 Brooklyn, it's really now to Bay Ridge.

00:43:54.140 So that entire strip of land, those are a lot of seats. 0.93

00:43:57.040 And what Democrats did – this is why Democrats are so stupid in New York sometimes – Democrats, to prevent Republicans from winning any local office seats in Queens and Brooklyn, they ran their districts east to west instead of north to south. 0.91

00:44:11.800 Had they ran them north to south, they would have given Democrats, socialists fewer seats to win. 0.98

00:44:18.600 But because they ran them a long ways east to west, they have more seats to campaign than to win because it's a little bit of the commie corridor and a lot of other areas that just don't have high-intensity voter turnout.

00:44:34.540 So you have ethnic white areas that voted for Trump that have a local representative who is a member of the DSA because they refuse to give Republicans any seats in the state of legislature in New York.

00:44:49.760 And that's why the DSA is, in fact, more powerful than it even should be, is because they were trying to get as many Democrats in the state legislature as possible.

00:44:58.980 so harry antin of cnn the poor man's ryan gurdusky he uh was was looking at the data after this

00:45:07.420 election and and he there was a graphic he put up on the screen i'm trying to find it but it's

00:45:11.480 basically the view uh among democrats not nationwide the view among democrats of socialism

00:45:17.020 i think it was 10 years ago versus today something like that and it has gone up dramatically and

00:45:23.600 there are people i saw uh you know matt walsh ben shapiro jesse kelly i've seen a bunch of people

00:45:29.240 on x who are saying guys the bolsheviks were never popular either but they started out as

00:45:35.320 a committed minority and then shaped things to their will over time is the democrat party

00:45:41.520 lurching left toward a more open embrace of socialism or how does that look going into the

00:45:48.900 midterms. Yeah, I mean, the thing is, is that, you know, everyone tries to paint this as a New

00:45:54.660 York particular election and as a New York phenomenon or just an inner city phenomenon,

00:46:00.640 because remember, mayor of Washington, D.C. is now a DSA member. Mayor of Seattle is now a DSA

00:46:05.540 member. Potentially the mayor of L.A. will be a DSA member. However, DSA members have won other

00:46:12.480 primaries. They won a primary in rural Maine. They won a primary in Montana. They have they

00:46:18.240 They have elected officeholders now in most states of the country in Democratic primaries.

00:46:24.240 In deep red states, they will find that sole blue pocket, and they will put their flag there and then win primaries everywhere else.

00:46:33.180 So, yes, that's a big part of it.

00:46:35.740 What has really been surprising more than anything, and there's been no backlash, nothing from the Democratic Party, is really how there's been a displacement.

00:46:45.680 which for my life, they've always had black candidates run for office as Democrats, being that blacks are the most loyal Democrats there are.

00:46:55.040 And now it's a lot of Arab candidates who are running as the DSA candidates, and they're winning, oftentimes beating black candidates.

00:47:04.120 It's just the observation of how quickly those demographics and that changes happen.

00:47:09.880 But, yeah, so the party is changing very quickly, and what we're seeing is both it's college-educated whites, but it's not just college-educated whites, and it's not unemployed college-educated whites.

00:47:21.820 Parts of these areas, the DSA members winning, are very wealthy.

00:47:25.220 These are people who live in $3 million, $4 million townhouses in Brooklyn.

00:47:29.380 It's also assimilated second-generation immigrants.

00:47:33.280 Those Asian Middle Easterners, sometimes African immigrants, their kids did assimilate. They didn't assimilate to Archie Bunker and John Wayne's America. They assimilated to AOC's version of America.

00:47:47.700 They have assimilated, and that's why sometimes this woman, the DAC up in Harlem, who's radical, who doesn't believe in biracial, oh, sorry, multiracial coupling because you should not have a relationship with a colonizer is what she said.

00:48:03.520 Wow, actually, I had not heard.

00:48:05.400 I'd heard crazy stuff.

00:48:06.460 I had not heard her say that.

00:48:08.300 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:48:09.600 She said black men who fetishize colonizers are disgusting. 1.00

00:48:14.120 Yes. 1.00

00:48:14.660 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:48:15.180 She's nuts. 1.00

00:48:15.880 She's completely insane. 0.99

00:48:17.700 But she converted to Islam not because she believed in the Koran, but because she sympathized with the people of Gaza. 1.00

00:48:26.600 She is nuts, but she's perfect. 0.97

00:48:31.260 That's a perfect assimilation to, you know, libtard, left-wing ideology. 1.00

00:48:38.040 And that is where they assimilated into mass media and the university system, and so it's perfect. 0.99

00:48:44.620 So they have this huge population of younger people. I say younger, 40 and under because they're not all like 18. Some of them are well into the middle age. But 40 and younger, wealthy, wealthy, college-educated whites mixed with first and mostly second-generation immigrants who absolutely believe lock, lock, and barrel all this stuff.

00:49:08.700 Our next election that we're going to see is in Wisconsin, where this woman, Fong is her last name. 0.83

00:49:15.280 She's running for governor. 0.88

00:49:16.860 She is – like she makes this woman look sane. 0.75

00:49:20.960 She's running, and she's leading in the polls right now, and she's running against the lieutenant governor who is a Marxist. 0.64

00:49:27.840 So there is no end in sight.

00:49:30.140 By the way, also, DAC, you know who one of the people she said was a horrible politician for being too supportive of Israel, this candidate who just won in Harlem?

00:49:40.600 Two people she said are on her enemies list, AOC and Bernie Sanders. 0.53

00:49:45.520 They're too friendly to Israel.

00:49:47.280 There is no bottom. 0.79

00:49:48.680 There is no bottom.

00:49:50.020 There's no floor.

00:49:51.060 We're not going to come to a conclusion to this story. 0.91

00:49:53.280 you either have to beat them and ridicule them or or or and and while you have the power

00:50:00.840 make sure the institutions don't produce more of them or they will take over so ryan we're just one

00:50:07.180 more for you before we go that was exactly what i was curious about after this and so i'm glad we

00:50:10.740 got your take on this it's a numbers game everybody is ryan's podcast great work great research that

00:50:15.440 he does tomorrow's all about this too the friday oh great so guys this is you have a deep dive on

00:50:19.920 this stuff tomorrow especially for our wor listeners or people that really want to know

00:50:23.400 what's going on in their backyard um go go listen to ryan's podcast on this but just one thing we

00:50:28.280 had uncle bill uh we had bill o'reilly on yesterday and he just threw in the mix that uh he's just

00:50:34.620 like look the democrats have no leader and that was interesting because they clearly have some

00:50:38.960 leaders but i i understand what he's saying i get his his point and i wanted to ask you who's the

00:50:45.060 most powerful democrat you know as we're seeing this stuff play out in new york and people talking

00:50:48.960 at AOC, who is the most politically powerful Democrat in America today? Well, right now it's

00:50:55.220 probably Mandani. I mean, probably Mandani and Bernie. Bernie has a fundraising list that's

00:51:00.120 bigger than everybody. But Mandani, as far as who energizes and motivates people, yeah,

00:51:05.760 it's the shiny guy from the, who's the smiley guy from the Knicks game, that failed rapper,

00:51:09.900 because people have this vision for what he stands for, even though he's gotten

00:51:13.120 close to nothing of his agenda done in New York. I mean, it's virtually close to nothing.

00:51:17.720 and he's capitulated on crime by bringing on tish james who's pretty hard-lined on crime

00:51:22.980 and he's completely not who he pretends to be he's not done nearly what he's pretended done

00:51:28.600 do um he's probably the most popular democrat right now in the country overall i would say

00:51:34.100 i mean besides that bernie i mean it's either bernie or mom donnie i mean you know you can't

00:51:41.380 find kamala everyone just laughs every time she shows up in the media somewhere and gavin newsom

00:51:46.120 is just not getting any of the headlines these days.

00:51:50.200 Yeah, he's a podcast host.

00:51:51.600 But that's why, right now, the Democrats are deciding

00:51:54.860 where to hold their first primary in 2028.

00:51:57.860 They're going to decide on the Deep South. 1.00

00:52:00.120 It is still old and it is still black. 0.97

00:52:02.000 They are going to reject a DSA candidate in the South.

00:52:06.040 Does that mean Kamala becomes the nominee?

00:52:08.560 If Clay was here, this is what he would ask you.

00:52:10.720 Probably.

00:52:11.780 I mean, I would say so right now, yeah.

00:52:13.640 I mean, right now, yes.

00:52:16.380 That doesn't mean she will, but as of right now, probably yes. 0.98

00:52:19.180 But they will push for the Deep South to avoid because they are less scared of a Kamala Harris

00:52:25.300 than they are of a AOC Bernie Sanders-backed candidate.

00:52:30.340 Because a Kamala Harris is absolutely no threat to Hakeem Jeffries.

00:52:34.740 Mandani absolutely is.

00:52:36.900 All right.

00:52:37.800 Ryan Gruduski, everybody.

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00:54:22.560 This is Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House and a proud American citizen.

00:54:27.560 I'm celebrating America's 250th birthday on my podcast, Newt's World, with 15 special episodes.

00:54:34.440 and I've got some great guests.

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00:55:23.220 2026 marks the 250th anniversary of America.

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00:56:22.600 Our guest now is Dan Mason, former president and CEO of CBS Radio.

00:56:30.220 He's got a new book out, Fearless, The Life and Times of a Media Maverick.

00:56:35.280 Dan, great to finally get a chance to talk to you.

00:56:38.000 Your reputation precedes you, sir.

00:56:40.340 Thank you so much for being here with us on Clay and Buck.

00:56:42.800 Sorry Clay is gone.

00:56:44.080 He was going to call in from the beach in Hawaii just to hang out with you, too.

00:56:47.480 But I said, Clay, the reception, we're going to hear the waves.

00:56:50.080 The reception's not that good.

00:56:51.220 So you just got me today.

00:56:53.320 But you are a legend in the radio industry, sir.

00:56:57.140 Why are you writing this book?

00:56:58.380 Let's start with that.

00:56:59.040 Well, first of all, thank you for having me.

00:57:01.040 And I've never been, I've never talked to 9 million people at once.

00:57:04.980 So that's what Julie says, Julie Talbot says your audience is.

00:57:08.560 So glad to be here.

00:57:09.820 A lot of people.

00:57:10.540 Yeah, thank you.

00:57:10.960 Why did I want to write the book?

00:57:12.960 I wanted to write a written account of my own life.

00:57:16.000 And I think back to my mom and dad or maybe even my grandparents, how cool it would be if I had that.

00:57:22.140 It's like a roadmap of who they were or where I came from.

00:57:26.640 But that's primarily why I did it.

00:57:28.740 And the more I got into it, I realized in my life, and I practiced this all through my CBS days, the things I've learned along the way, I didn't dream that up.

00:57:39.800 It was taught to me by other people.

00:57:41.800 And I also realized that it's kind of incumbent upon me to give that back.

00:57:47.060 It's not mine to keep.

00:57:48.720 So there's a lot of, I guess, dandism, as you could say.

00:57:52.140 That's, for lack of a better term, that's what I named it in the book.

00:57:54.720 um short things that i've learned that will help anybody no matter what industry they're in

00:58:00.420 and of course buck there has to be oh probably about 30 to 40 percent of funny radio stories

00:58:06.660 and that would be bosses jocks recording artists i think i've got them all in there

00:58:13.460 so you describe radio in the book as the media backbone of america and chapter seven is titled

00:58:20.960 radio is dead with all the ways people consume content now has that changed or just evolved

00:58:26.540 well i wrote that chapter i thought about walking by a appliance store in about 1960 62 i saw my

00:58:36.720 first color tv and uh i don't know if you remember it you probably don't remember this you're too

00:58:41.800 young but the whole slug line for advertising was wow i saw a color tv so the tv people were

00:58:48.880 out in force talking about radio being dead and of course cassettes came along cds came along

00:58:55.040 you name it it all came along but here we are because radio is about companionship

00:59:01.640 and more specifically about making friends

00:59:04.540 and i was told this once by a uh a very well-known person in the industry that if you do this right

00:59:15.120 And it should be a one-to-one conversation, but perhaps in this case heard millions of times over or millions of one-to-one conversations happening.

00:59:23.420 What is the advice that you would give to people who are in this medium about how to establish that very special, that very powerful connection that radio is able to do that things like TV really just – it's just not the same?

00:59:37.920 I think radio is a much different medium because it is a call-to-action medium.

00:59:43.400 you know you could get on the air a morning show could get on afternoon it doesn't matter

00:59:47.620 and raise money for a family who had been burned out of their home you might raise money for

00:59:55.200 the dog shelter to get all the dogs adopted for that day and it can happen little not so much in

01:00:02.580 tv but radio is that one-to-one communication and like i said before it's a sense of belonging

01:00:08.240 People want to belong to something bigger, part of a family.

01:00:11.900 And it's about, it's simple.

01:00:13.380 It's just about making friends.

01:00:15.700 You have a chapter about NPR and the whole public funding back and forth over that.

01:00:21.260 Where do you come down on that issue?

01:00:22.540 You're a guy who knows plenty about NPR and what it does and does not do.

01:00:29.180 I've listened to NPR for about 50 years off and on.

01:00:32.660 So I think I'm as good as anyone else in this country to make a comment on NPR.

01:00:38.240 First of all, um, 1934, the Communications Act, uh, established that there would be non-commercial radio stations and they would get on there and do something a little different that maybe a crazy top 40 station wouldn't do.

01:00:54.740 And that, they always had this snooty attitude, always.

01:00:59.360 And they were very, no matter what, they were partisan.

01:01:02.520 It didn't, it didn't reflect so much until President Obama was, was elected.

01:01:07.740 Now this is my two cents, so other people may have a different opinion. In about 1967, the government came along and said, you know what, these guys are not making much money and they need to be on the air still, so let's fund them.

01:01:20.200 And that went on from 1967 to recently, just last year, which was about July. It was challenged in March of this year by a federal judge, but it's still going to be a tough putt to bring that back. It was about $1.1 billion.

01:01:36.580 So I wrote Commissioner Carr, who I gave a tour to at 1010 Winds, and I told him I have a solution.

01:01:44.360 I have the total solution for all of this, and nobody's going to sue anybody.

01:01:48.040 And here's the solution, Buck.

01:01:50.160 Drop entirely the non-commercial status of those radio stations.

01:01:55.380 I mean, you hear on there, this is brought to you by a fund from blank.

01:01:59.940 This is provided to you by blank.

01:02:03.040 They're taking money, and that's okay.

01:02:05.060 but let them sell like every other radio station there should not be non-commercial stations

01:02:10.960 anymore and you look at premier network if they want to have a network there is 4 000

01:02:16.080 non-commercial stations right now in this country you're telling me they couldn't cobble together

01:02:21.000 400 of those to go out and begin to sell a network ad i think they could and i think that as far as

01:02:27.720 ratings go they sure have those where i'm from in washington dc they're number one in the market

01:02:32.580 And I know in Washington, D.C., if they put salespeople in the street, they would be the darling of the market, I'm sure.

01:02:39.120 So they can raise money.

01:02:40.740 But if they don't drop that non-commercial status, it's going to be tough.

01:02:45.880 We are speaking to Dan Mason, former president and CEO of CBS Radio.

01:02:52.060 He's got a book out, Fearless, The Life and Times of a Media Maverick.

01:02:57.440 Why was Rush Limbaugh so special?

01:03:00.300 He made a lot of friends.

01:03:01.800 Yeah, he had some enemies, too, but he stood for something.

01:03:06.440 And, you know, he was not afraid to take a position, say who he was, or not afraid to congratulate someone, not afraid to offend someone.

01:03:17.040 I mean, it's interesting with him.

01:03:18.340 He started, like, in Sacramento as a DJ.

01:03:22.400 And you talk about vision.

01:03:25.340 You talk about passion and desire.

01:03:28.040 Look throughout his career.

01:03:29.440 I mean, he's just, he's a, that should be the maverick, not me.

01:03:35.760 Now, there are, as I understand it, some juicy stories in the book.

01:03:40.520 Can you give us one or two?

01:03:41.960 Can you give us so people can go pick up a copy of Fearless?

01:03:44.680 Like, what are some things that they'll find?

01:03:46.000 You have people listening right now, by the way, who are 30, 40-year radio devotees.

01:03:52.440 I mean, people generally listen to Rush for 30 years.

01:03:55.340 But you've got people that have been all about this medium, a lot of them.

01:03:58.500 we've also got digital streaming and other things too because we're in the uh you know year of our

01:04:02.980 lord 2026 a lot of things going on but give us some stories for the radio folks out there well

01:04:08.560 there's a lot of funny stories um a couple of them i can't tell you because they're too

01:04:13.660 r-rated um even though your audience is probably i don't know pg to r-rated i'm not sure but the

01:04:21.220 story that comes to mind that is a funny one that i can tell i don't remember i don't know how old

01:04:26.860 sure but dotty west was a huge country music singer in the early 80s she had that song what

01:04:33.280 are we doing in love with kenny rogers which was the number one record but um i was at ktsa in san

01:04:39.720 antonio as general manager i was only 27 years old and uh my friend worked at united artist in

01:04:46.600 nashville and she was uh dotty's promoter so she calls me and says listen we're we're coming through

01:04:53.600 san antonio and let's have lunch i want you to meet dotty and just talk i said sure i'd love to

01:04:59.680 meet dotty so we go to a steak and ale and uh remember steak and ale um we go there and um we

01:05:07.660 have we have lunch and lunch is and she was absolutely the most beautiful woman that i'd

01:05:13.540 ever seen in my life at that time but just beautiful and i would think about all those

01:05:18.740 commercials she did, like I was raised on Country Sunshine, which was a big Coke commercial back in

01:05:25.140 the day. But we're winding down lunch, and she looks at me, and she goes, Dan, I've got a great

01:05:31.280 idea. And I say, oh, what's that? She says, why don't you come with me? And I said, where? And

01:05:40.920 she goes, Dallas. We're on the way to Dallas, and I think you should come with me so we can get to

01:05:46.440 know each other a little bit better and i say oh i don't think i can and she goes well why not i

01:05:53.620 said well i've got a wife and a young son and i've got a radio station to run and she looks at me and

01:05:59.620 winks and says i don't see the issue what's the point that was hilarious at least uh at the place

01:06:06.460 in time it was really really funny so uh i also hear from the team that you got 50 i'm a huge dog

01:06:13.980 person you got 50 dogs adopted all at once what was that yeah that was back in atlanta probably

01:06:20.120 late 70s and um we teamed up with a um steakhouse this is a famous one but the name escapes me but

01:06:28.780 they were giving away bags of like bones like steak bones but you couldn't do that these days

01:06:34.560 and that's another thing buck you some of these promotions that are in that book you couldn't do

01:06:38.860 them in a million years now but um we did a big dog-a-thon and over the air and uh sure enough

01:06:46.780 every one of those dogs found a home wow amazing well that's great i'm so happy to hear that all

01:06:53.560 worked out what are you doing with the profits from your book fearless profits go to the

01:06:57.060 broadcasters foundation of america and i'm the chairman emeritus of that group as a matter of

01:07:02.160 fact we're doing a mixer here in this building tonight at 5 30 to introduce more people to the

01:07:07.960 raucousers foundation it's an organization found 75 years ago probably and it's there to take care

01:07:15.860 of people in radio and television with acute needs like sickness or whatever and um it's really a it's

01:07:24.160 a great organization so a lot of people older people now have outlived their outlived their

01:07:30.500 kids and they have nothing absolutely nothing then you've got another segment of people who

01:07:36.440 have been hit by cancer and they can't feed their family can't pay the rent so the money that the

01:07:43.300 broadcasters foundation takes in goes in direct to those folks on a monthly monthly check basis

01:07:49.480 dan mason the book is fearless the life and times of a media maverick dan great sir uh an honor to

01:07:58.620 have you here with us on clay and buck and have fun at the party tonight and best of luck with

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01:08:53.500 on neutral podcast we're celebrating america's 250th birthday and i ask my guests how they're

01:09:07.600 spending their fourth of july brett bear i will be working i'll be in washington because it's a big

01:09:14.060 big day jared isaac i plan to be flying in an f5 fighter jet painted in freedom 250 colors along

01:09:20.960 with four other fighter jets flying over the nation's capital.

01:09:24.220 Listen to Newt's World on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you did your podcast.

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