00:00:30.120We'll be talking to those fine folks, and we will also be breaking down all of the latest news and analysis and important goings on for all of you.
00:00:40.440Big story still, big guest story, I should say.
00:00:44.180The ongoing airstrikes against the Iranian regime.
00:00:49.600Also, some jitters people are having around the price of oil.
00:00:54.360So we're going to address all of this.
00:00:55.860Here is Secretary of War Hegseth at a press conference this morning, promising everyone that we're just getting warmed up with all this stuff.
00:01:41.580Our generation of soldier will not let that happen again, and nor will this president, who very clearly ran against those kinds of never-ending, nebulously scoped missions.
00:01:53.980So he is saying that everything is going according to plan.
00:01:59.660We are essentially kicking the Iranian military's ass with one arm behind our back from the sky entirely.
00:02:05.440and this is going to continue and get more intense as the days go on,
00:05:19.340Who are the people that Israel may have been working with to help get all of these targets that we were able to focus on and take out so quickly?
00:05:29.700All of those questions, I think, are still incumbent upon us to resolve.
00:05:35.920but I do think at a minimum the message that we sent even if we pulled out tomorrow buck even if
00:05:42.540we said hey mission accomplished we are out and we are going back and we're not going to continue
00:05:48.000to bomb Iran we have sent the message and I think it's a very significant one not only to Iran but
00:05:53.020to everybody around the world that we can basically take out any world leader that we want to and so
00:05:58.240whomever comes to power in Iran we can wipe that person out too they know it we know it the world
00:06:05.060knows it and so uh the question that i have is to what extent is there someone that we are amenable
00:06:11.380to that could be rising to power and what is the time frame under which that could occur
00:06:15.580um i think that that's the question that is still out there right now i think the argument that we
00:06:22.520were going to lose tons of soldiers is out the window i think the argument in the wake of the
00:06:28.820last day buck this is one of the craziest things i've ever said when we came on the air yesterday
00:06:33.460everybody was in a full-fledged panic over the price of oil and gas it hit 120 dollars
00:06:40.300on the market on sunday before we came on the air they open overseas it's now 85 dollars now
00:06:48.180that's significant but it's not that much of a bump and the straight of four moves it appears
00:06:53.900the oil is actually coming through fairly comfortably we just haven't seen the spike
00:06:59.660that everybody said we were going to see and i think we have the ability to exit this uh escalation
00:07:06.940whenever we want and we have effectively neutered iran for decades to come in terms of the they have
00:07:15.160no air force they have no navy um they have no missiles largely their ability to even send off
00:07:23.060these drones has been significantly curtailed i just i look around buck and say we're at the
00:07:30.160who is going to lead iran stage of this military uh of this military endeavor
00:07:35.620the whole irgc which we talked about a bit yesterday is set up to be a decentralized and
00:07:44.660survivable security apparatus for a situation like this this is the challenge that we have
00:07:51.480uh so they've got the guns they've got comms set up they have down to a very localized level
00:07:58.360uh terrain knowledge human terrain knowledge basically anyone who walks out of their home
00:08:05.320to start a protest in the street liable to just get shot by these either besieger or irgc uh units
00:08:13.340so what do we do about that this is the this is where things get a little open-ended i'm not
00:08:21.180really sure what the plan is on this we can keep blowing their military equipment out of out of the
00:08:26.320sky but ultimately whoever has the most manpower with guns on the ground willing to fight is likely
00:08:33.780to be able to stay in control it's also by the way big lesson about the second amendment how
00:08:39.580important the second amendment is an armed citizenry right uh because they don't have that
00:08:44.280the people with the guns of the government that's it uh very few people in iran are going to be able
00:08:49.880to get out there and get into a gun battle with members of the Iranian security forces.
00:08:55.620So with all that, Clay, I think that the military side of this is showing incredible, everything
00:09:02.000that Hegseth and Trump have been saying about this is true.
00:09:07.000It's been an amazing display of U.S. military capability.
00:13:35.460And our oil industry has done this despite all the climate change,
00:13:40.940which is a complete waste of time and an absurdity
00:13:43.080that no human being should ever waste three seconds concerned about or anything else.
00:13:47.060But our oil industry is one of our biggest strategic assets as a nation.
00:13:52.380and and yet democrats trash them all the time and act like they're killing all of us no actually
00:13:57.680you should go thank an oil man today or a woman if she happens to work in the oil industry you
00:14:02.380should go say thank you for what you do because that's why we can go around the world and kick
00:14:06.800anybody's ass and do it in a way that is blowing the minds of our top adversaries and enemies
00:14:12.080which by the way in the first gulf war for those of you who remember that fear that they would
00:14:18.580curtail our ability to get oil and gas was the impetus to a large extent for the first Gulf War
00:14:25.240back in 1990 or whatever it was it was a totally different world I'll add into what you just said
00:14:30.700Buck do you know what country they believe in the western hemisphere has the largest untapped
00:14:35.700resources of oil and gas Venezuela well the biggest proven reserves on the planet yeah
00:14:43.380So the fact that we now have the ability basically to also access that is yet another sign that we are curtailing the power of the of the oil and gas petro dictators all around the world, including Iran, Russia.
00:14:58.580It's not a surprise that a lot of these countries that are natural adversaries to ours are very oil wealthy.
00:18:11.120We bring in now North Carolinian Michael Watley,
00:18:15.820one of the biggest battleground states of the midterm,
00:18:19.600will be north carolina and in particular an open senate seat there the primaries are over it is
00:18:26.940going to be michael whatley against roy cooper uh you uh have seen and helped to shepherd trump
00:18:33.220to victories in north carolina in 2016 2020 and 2024 uh and so you know the state better than
00:18:41.480almost anyone what does it look like on the ground there what needs to happen in order for
00:18:46.440a victory to happen in this seat to remain in Republican hands, Chairman Watley?
00:18:53.240Well, really, look, what came out of the primaries, and we have a completely unified Republican
00:18:58.100party, and we have the narrative that we really were hoping to have in this election cycle,
00:19:03.480because this is about contrast. This is about a choice that North Carolinians have, and they're
00:19:09.520going to vote for a conservative champion who's going to be an ally for President Trump over
00:19:15.500Roy Cooper who absolutely is not going to be an ally with the president he's not going to support
00:19:21.720the president's agenda he is going to be a soft on crime senator just like he was a soft on crime
00:19:27.760governor and he is going to always want higher taxes he's going to want boys and girls sports
00:19:33.860and men and women's locker rooms and he's going to always fight harder for criminals and illegal
00:19:38.620aliens than he is for the people of north carolina so my understanding is you are uh the recovery
00:19:45.720czar for western north carolina right after hurricane helene that trump has talked about
00:19:50.140how you've been uh important in those efforts how was how is that going and what would you say about
00:19:57.100the state efforts that you weren't in control of to try to help out areas like ashville and boone
00:20:04.700Well, what we saw with Roy Cooper was the governor was absolutely no activity whatsoever, either from Joe Biden or from Roy Cooper.
00:20:14.640They both left the state totally in shambles.
00:20:18.420What President Trump has done, what we've been able to do is bring $8.75 billion plus in recovery efforts to Western North Carolina.
00:20:28.080Ninety nine percent of the roads have been rebuilt.
00:20:30.140The bridges have been rebuilt. The water systems, the wastewater systems have been rebuilt.
00:20:35.240You know, that is a very strong part of the state. It is a resilient part of the state.
00:20:40.140The people there have have, you know, overcome adverse adversity.
00:20:45.160But, you know, we're not ready to hang out a mission accomplished banner yet.
00:20:49.360But we feel very good about where we are in terms of the recovery.
00:20:53.020And this is the largest recovery effort by the federal government in North Carolina history for any hurricane.
00:21:00.140the governor former governor of north carolina you're running against roy cooper i remember
00:21:07.500seeing a super viral video of him asked a very basic question should men be able to compete in
00:21:14.820women's sports and i know as march madness is going on there's not a sports crazier state
00:21:20.500hardly for basketball season than north carolina right now i think it's something that really cuts
00:21:25.920through and connects with a lot of north carolinians in particular has he answered that
00:21:31.600question i imagine that when you get on the debate stage and as this campaign progresses
00:21:36.000that's going to be something that you really hammer him on well he did answer the question
00:21:40.680because he vetoed three different bills to keep woke out of schools boys out of girls sports and
00:21:46.080men's out of women's locker rooms uh he's exactly wrong on this issue said and it really does as
00:21:51.640you say you know touch the hearts and minds of people all across north carolina what is the
00:21:58.620difference between you and roy cooper as you see it when it comes to uh immigration enforcement
00:22:05.580that's obviously an area that matters a whole lot to the whole country and it matters a whole lot to
00:22:10.140your home state of north carolina where is cooper on that issue where has he been as governor and
00:22:15.580where will you be well i'm going to support president trump i think that when we talk about
00:22:20.840the highest, most important function for any government. It is protecting its citizens. That's
00:22:26.060true, whether it's local, state or federal. And what President Trump has done in securing our
00:22:31.560border is not just keep out, you know, the millions of illegal immigrants that were flowing
00:22:36.580into the country every single year, but it's also brought down drugs. He's brought down migrant
00:22:42.840crime, sex trafficking, you know, all of the all of the scourges that came along with, you know,
00:22:48.70010 to 15 million illegal immigrants that came across you know roy cooper on the other hand
00:22:53.220vetoed two different bills uh that would have forced sheriffs to honor ice detainers and help
00:22:57.980get violent criminal illegal aliens out of north carolina oh i know that the answer is everywhere
00:23:05.000every part of the state but you know the state of north carolina better than anybody buck just
00:23:11.120asked you about western north carolina where i think you were born and raised uh still recovering
00:23:15.280from a lot of what happened with hurricane helene where does a statewide race get decided in your
00:23:21.860mind is it the suburbs outside of charlotte is it uh in turnout related issues again i know that
00:23:28.580there are lots of things to point to but when you look at this state where is a close election
00:23:35.040decided in north carolina look you you nailed it on the head when you said everywhere matters we're
00:23:41.040expecting that this race is going to be extraordinarily close. When Tom Tillis won
00:23:45.720this seat for the first time in 2014, he had a 50,000 vote margin, which was three-tenths of a
00:23:51.740point. When he won it for the second time, it was a six-tenth of a point margin. And Ted Budd got a
00:23:58.600very comfortable 50.5. So we know that every place is going to matter. What we need to do
00:24:04.420is to get out there and talk to every Republican voter that supported President Trump, who has not
00:24:10.800voted in the off years so we look at people who voted in 2016 2020 and 2024 but they didn't vote
00:24:17.860in 2018 or 2022 we want to go to them and have a conversation that says this it really matters we
00:24:25.220need to dynamite them off the couch and we need to get them to go vote the other thing that we
00:24:30.040need to do is in a typical election in north carolina 46 47 of the people are going to vote
00:24:36.320for a Republican candidate, 46, 47% are going to vote for a Democratic candidate. And then we are
00:24:42.560going to have to go have a conversation with that six to 8% that are your swing voters. And they're
00:24:48.340predominantly suburban, they're predominantly college educated. And the thing that matters to
00:24:53.360them is a conversation about crazy versus common sense. And they supported President Trump in this
00:24:59.680last election cycle, independent voters in North Carolina, 54 to 45, because he was the common
00:25:05.760sense candidate he was actually going out there and talking about the issues that they cared about
00:25:10.800not the woke progressive issues that kamala harris was putting on the table roy cooper is right there
00:25:17.140in lockstep with the democratic party when he's talking about open borders inflationary spending
00:25:22.500in a weak woke america what i'm fighting for is president trump's common sense agenda to you know
00:25:28.980rebuild our economy to make sure that our kids and our communities are safe and that the men and
00:25:33.640women in uniform based in North Carolina have what they need to protect our interests and allies
00:25:38.320around the world. Speaking of Michael Watley, he's running for that Senate seat that's open in this
00:25:43.400cycle in North Carolina. I know you've strongly supported, Michael, President Trump's tax cuts,
00:25:50.340which have obviously boosted North Carolina's economy along with the rest of the country.
00:25:55.580But there's major affordability concerns in your state, just like there are in many states,
00:26:00.220particularly a lot of states people are moving to right housing prices are going up because of
00:26:04.640that supply and demand reality uh roy cooper wants to expand medicaid roy cooper wants to spend more
00:26:10.900money and that's not going to help what would you like to do what kind of pro-growth policies would
00:26:17.820you prioritize in the senate so that working families can get some relief and there can be
00:26:23.460some of the uh affordability issues addressed that are so critical right now especially those
00:26:28.680independent and swing voters yeah look tax policies regulatory policies and trade policies
00:26:35.500that are going to help north carolina manufacturers small businesses and and particularly our farms
00:26:40.820right we need to create more jobs we need to make sure people are taking home bigger paychecks and
00:26:46.220of course we've got to get the cost down low uh and that is going to take a concerted effort you
00:26:51.780know one of the things that's so important about president trump and the one big beautiful bill
00:26:55.680that was passed by Congress last year is extending the Trump middle-class tax cuts,
00:27:01.420which ended up being the largest tax cut in history,
00:27:04.380and making sure that no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security.
00:27:10.300Roy Cooper, when he was a legislator, he voted for multiple tax hikes.
00:27:15.680When he was the governor, he vetoed six different tax cuts,
00:27:19.440and he made it very clear that he would have voted against the one big, beautiful bill.
00:27:22.860So he's always going to support tax increases. He's always going to want to tax and spend your money, right? I'm going to always fight to make sure that we're going to bring those costs down. You mentioned housing, right? So just today, we've got Secretary Scott Turner, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development coming into Charlotte, North Carolina, and we're going to have a roundtable where we're going to be focusing on bringing down housing costs and making sure that we have houses that are going to be available.
00:27:51.260It's really hard for you to set up and live the American dream when you can't get married and buy a house and raise a family.
00:27:58.760And so what we want to do is have an honest conversation with the secretary, along with, you know, real estate developers and lenders and construction folks about what is it going to take for us to be able to build more homes and bring down those prices.
00:28:13.460We need to bring, you know, interest rates down. Right.
00:28:16.840President Trump has been fighting on that a lot. We need to have transparency in the housing markets.
00:28:21.980We need to make sure that the HUD loans and other programs they have are specifically designed to get more first time homeowners into place.
00:28:32.380How much is this race going to cost total, do you think?
00:28:34.920And for people out there that might have the resources to be able to help you, how can they help you?
00:28:41.760Well, this is going to be the most expensive Senate race in the history of the country.
00:28:45.220And we're seeing experts on both sides of the aisle are saying that we're going to be somewhere north of $600 million that are going to be spent on this race, which is going to eclipse what we saw in Ohio and Georgia and Pennsylvania in the last couple of election cycles.
00:29:03.300We are certainly going to need help from all across the country.
00:29:05.980And we are going to be in a position to win this race when we have that support because we are believers that good policy is good politics.
00:29:15.220And we're going to be on the right side of every one of these 80-20 issues.
00:29:18.860And we're going to be fighting for President Trump's common sense agenda.
00:29:22.300I want to just come back to that number quickly because my jaw dropped for people watching on video.
00:29:27.920You think this race is going to cost $600 million?
00:29:33.300Yeah, I think it's a stunning indictment on politics these days that this is what we're going to be spending on there.
00:29:39.940But we need to make sure that we get our message out.
00:29:42.760And President Trump did such a good job. What we did on the campaign was make sure that we were good stewards of every dollar, that we were spending it in a way that was going to maximize getting our message out there.
00:29:56.300But it didn't work if we didn't have a good message.
00:29:58.820And so when we talk about rebuilding the economy, restoring the borders and keeping our kids and our communities safe and making sure that our military has what they need, you know, as as as we're watching what happens now in Iran, we need to make sure that we're focusing on what are the issue sets that the voters care about.
00:30:17.880he is michael whatley he is hopefully going to be the next senator from the state of north
00:30:22.420carolina i'm sure we'll be talking to you a lot that 600 million dollar battle that is extraordinary
00:30:28.020sir get your rest and be ready we're ready to go and really appreciate you and your listeners
00:30:33.820that is michael whatley check him out um and one of the big open senate seats maybe the biggest
00:30:40.660battleground uh senate battle uh in the country there 600 million i can't believe it uh by the
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00:32:08.220podcasts welcome back in clay travis buck sexton show we appreciate all of you hanging out with us
00:32:15.540and we are glad to be joined by our good friend shannon bream am i allowed to say it i'm going to
00:32:21.520say it i always ask and then i say it anyway nearly a neighbor of mine among uh other reasons that
00:32:27.540i appreciate everything that she does she has great choices and where she has decided to live
00:32:33.120with her awesome husband, Sheldon, who often listens to the show.
00:33:02.760And Shannon, I'll get to the book in a sec, but let me start with this.
00:33:06.340We're still expecting really big Supreme Court decisions.
00:33:10.260When do we expect some of these to come down?
00:33:12.960And what do you think has the potential to be the most significant between now and June when that term is over?
00:33:21.280Well, Clay, good to hear your voice. Great to be with you guys. Thanks for having me.
00:33:25.500We probably will get another round of opinions starting the week of March 23rd.
00:33:29.72023rd. They're back at arguments, oral arguments then. So listen, it's the court's world. We're
00:33:34.880just living in it. They could give these opinions anytime we want. But that's kind of my educated
00:33:38.100guess. You know, we're waiting on one really big one out of Louisiana that has to do with
00:33:42.160redistricting, with the Voting Rights Act. And you guys know we're tracking these states all over
00:33:46.760the country that are trying to do redistricting leading up to the midterm. So if we get that
00:33:51.880decision on the earlier side, meaning, you know, March, April, rather than the later, which would
00:33:56.380be the end of june it really does have the potential to impact a number of these states
00:34:00.460and what they're doing with redrawing these streets so um excuse me the district so i'm
00:34:04.820watching for that one we've got a couple that test the limits of executive power you know the
00:34:08.700president trying to dismiss a governor from the fed board and some other interesting ones that
00:34:12.740we're just kind of waiting on our nail-biting standby shannon i want to ask you about the book
00:34:17.900because i just went through the whole book thing and still going and congrats congrats thank you
00:34:23.120thank you um i'm sure you're enjoying your copy very much thank you for uh your kind words tell me
00:34:29.420um what'd you write in this book and what do people need to know i want to dive right into it
00:34:34.700well listen it's it's a group of stories from the bible old and new testament to have this theme of
00:34:40.180overcoming because i mean all of us get up against something in life that you know either it's
00:34:44.780unplanned and it's you know a terrible diagnosis or financial crisis or something really difficult
00:34:50.140in life it may be something exciting like you know starting a new business or having a baby
00:34:54.580or doing something but we all have things that sometimes will make us feel a little bit overwhelmed
00:34:58.320and that's a common thread in all of these stories and so i hope that people will see
00:35:02.720themselves in these stories be encouraged and see how god was working and help each of these
00:35:06.720people to overcome what was the tough thing in front of them shannon um you mentioned the supreme
00:35:13.740court decisions that are coming down soon one of the biggest questions and this is a huge mess in
00:35:19.400general so maybe you have the perfect solution here is and i think we talked about this with
00:35:23.560you before the tariff decision had so many different implications but the biggest still
00:35:29.520is out there it is what happens with tariff refunds how does this play out in your mind
00:35:35.400where does it go yeah and listen during the fight over the tariffs in the lower courts
00:35:41.340the administration represented to the courts numerous times that they would pay out the
00:35:46.080refunds to the plaintiffs in those particular cases. So that was just a small group of businesses.
00:35:51.460So I pressed, you know, Secretary Besson, Kevin Hassett, others on this, like what happens to
00:35:56.460everybody else out there? And you've seen, I mean, there were already been a lot of big
00:36:00.740filings, lawsuits filed with different companies across the spectrum saying we want our money back.
00:36:05.780Well, now CBP, because this money comes in through Border Patrol, they say, listen,
00:36:11.240we are getting together a streamlined way to do this. It's going to take us about 45 days,
00:36:15.460I think they told the court recently to kind of set up the way that you go about getting your refunds.
00:36:19.880But there are a lot of lawsuits from companies who say, we're not waiting for that.
00:36:23.020We want the money back and we want a guarantee from the court that you're going to pay us.
00:36:27.820Hmm. How do you think this plays out, Shannon?
00:36:31.800Well, you know, the president himself was frustrated that the court did not give a specific, you know, framework for paying this money back.
00:36:39.400Instead, he, you know, said, oh, we're going to be tied up in litigation for a couple of years.
00:36:42.500So that's my question. Is the administration going to fight some of these refunds or will they do, as CBP has said, that at this framework?
00:36:49.740Because, you know, several businesses out there have spoken publicly and said, listen, the forms that you fill out for these specific tariffs, it's always very specific.
00:36:57.540So you can track, you got the receipts, as the kids say, to show exactly what money you've paid out.
00:37:03.000And so it would seem with that in mind, if CBP really sets up this framework for getting it done, that that would expedite the process.
00:37:10.120But I think that there are going to be those who press for litigation to make sure that that vow is made good.
00:37:17.220When you look, Shannon, at the Supreme Court decisions, the one that you just referenced on the redistricting,
00:37:26.680in particular using race as a criteria, the gerrymandering of race,
00:37:32.520I've seen some stories that that could flip 20 different districts, particularly in the South, if that's tossed.
00:37:39.780My suspicion, I'm curious if you would sign on, is that the court is going to wait as
00:37:44.020late as possible, release that ruling.
00:37:46.920I think it's going to invalidate those districts, but I think they want to do it late enough
00:37:51.400that it doesn't impact the 2026 midterms.
00:37:55.040You buy that, or do you think there is a possibility that they would interject themselves
00:38:05.480Yeah, and that's such a great question, because that's what we keep waiting for.
00:38:09.240Listen, if this thing comes in the next couple of weeks, I do think, you know, it's going to impact a number of states that can make these changes before it's later.
00:38:16.300But if it comes to the end of June, it may preclude that process.
00:38:20.860You're right from getting too close to doing anything about the elections that are going to come in the midterm.
00:38:25.440You know, the justices will tell us they want the court to be viewed as apolitical as possible.
00:38:30.060they don't want to get involved in looking like they're putting a weight on the scale in a partisan manner or any other way.
00:38:35.900So I don't know where they're going to do, where they're going to land with this.
00:38:39.540But, you know, the chief justice always tells us when the opinions are ready,
00:38:42.440we don't hold them or time them to meet any kind of specific political or other timeline.
00:38:46.860We release them. So they haven't even given us a date for the next release.
00:38:50.460But he says they don't play games with it, that when it's ready, we get it.
00:38:54.500something i just thought about as we're here talking about matters affecting the high court
00:39:00.320and matters before the high court shannon whatever happened to finding out who leaked the dobbs
00:39:05.460decision in advance of the actual decision very few people would have had access to that
00:39:10.140and it feels like that just went nowhere buck i love it one of my favorite questions because
00:39:17.400remember this administration picked that up when the court had the investigation the chief justice
00:39:23.660kept it in-house, used the marshal service, used their internal workings to get it done.
00:39:28.800We know some people were pressed on taking lie detector tests and those kinds of things,
00:39:33.000but we all know if it was a clerk, and that's an if, we have no idea, they have these one-year
00:39:37.780terms. And if it's an internal Supreme Court investigation, when they leave at the end of
00:39:42.700that clerking term, the court kind of loses its reach over them. They can't take away their
00:39:47.240employment. They can't do anything from that infrastructure. And there are a lot of critics
00:39:51.700on the outside who said, this should have been farmed out. We should have brought in DOJ or
00:39:55.860some other federal investigative body to do this. Well, then, you know, when Dan Mangino was part
00:40:00.900of the administration, he talked a couple of times about this, saying the Dobbs decision is still on
00:40:05.660our list of investigations. Like, we're going to try to find out. So if the court cooperates with
00:40:10.400them, that's one thing. But if the court's not cooperating and turning over all the details of
00:40:14.580what their internal investigation found, I'm not sure how you kind of pick up the threats at this
00:40:18.780point we want you to go buy her book uh the book is nothing is impossible with god 11 heroes one
00:40:25.000god endless lessons in overcoming shannon bream let me hit you with this because i haven't heard
00:40:30.820this discussed in earnest um but a big part of what might happen in the senate is who's going
00:40:37.380to control it right this could be the last year that president trump has control of the united
00:40:43.340States Senate. Have you heard any discussions about the possibility of some of the older
00:40:49.960justices, maybe a Justice Alito, for instance, deciding that this is the time to step down
00:40:56.580because he knows that his confirmation would be someone who shares many of his judicial
00:41:03.420philosophies. Whereas if you wait until January, you could end up in a situation where Ruth
00:41:10.760Bader Ginsburg found herself or other justices have found themselves where your health is at
00:41:16.380the beck and call of a political universe you don't control uh what discussion if any is is
00:41:22.080about the Supreme Court right now oh guys this is one of our favorite parlor games in D.C. especially
00:41:28.060in the Supreme Court press corps like it gives ulcers to all of us trying to figure this out
00:41:32.360and figure out what they're going to do because you guys know these confirmation battles have
00:41:36.420gotten so heated the last few rounds that when somebody decides to step down, it triggers all
00:41:43.340kinds of pandemonium in D.C. And you're right. You've got to look to the midterms and see,
00:41:47.680does the Senate lose control, which would make it really hard? It's already difficult because
00:41:50.840you're not even guaranteed all the Republican votes if you're a Republican voter who wants to
00:41:55.380see President Trump to get another appointment. They don't always stick together either. So,
00:42:00.080you know, it's a really heavy lift. But I've heard nothing. I mean,
00:42:03.180justices thomas and lito have both hired their clerks they have everything in place that you
00:42:07.740would think is going to be in place for future terms um that's something that they do pretty
00:42:11.960far in advance so i haven't heard any rumblings that anybody's actually thinking about it we like
00:42:16.260to speculate but my educated guess is that justice thomas is not going to leave the bench by choice
00:42:21.780he's having a good time he fights every day i think when he shows up there every day he does
00:42:26.560it with such glee for his haters um that i think he's somebody who's going to stay as long as
00:42:31.540possible um you know we have no indication that justice alito is even thinking about it but i
00:42:36.460think he would step down before justice thomas would so i think um june could be very interesting
00:42:41.640month on that front yeah let me hit you with this because i like to look at the markets um and there
00:42:47.060are markets right now on whether a new supreme court justice would be confirmed before 2027
00:42:53.780and it's right at 60 percent yes so there are people making wagers that somebody alito is the
00:43:01.700favorite as you just kind of ran through that you know he might be considering this and again you've
00:43:07.360done this for a long time if you wanted to ensure who your replacement was going to be from a
00:43:14.120judicial philosophy perspective next year that meaning this year might be the last year where
00:43:20.280you have some certainty on that for some time to come. Right. And listen, as much as the court
00:43:26.560wants to be apolitical, they're not blind. Listen, they get the political trends. They get the
00:43:35.220political conversation. And you do have to think about that. Remember when Justice Ginsburg was
00:43:39.360being pressed so hard by the left to step down and it made her dig in her heels. I mean, there
00:43:44.420were op eds telling her she had to go. There were law professors calling for her to go. And she was
00:43:48.260like, no, sir, I will go on my own timeline and I'll go when I'm good and ready. And then the
00:43:52.540left was so furious with her, uh, obviously passing away while she was still holding that seat.
00:43:57.720And, um, you know, president Trump obviously getting to replace her. So it's a really sore
00:44:02.500point. Um, but a lot of people think on the right, even listen, you give deference to these men who,
00:44:08.460you know, are the more senior members of the conservative wing of the court. They've given
00:44:11.640decades of their lives and we should respect that. So, um, I don't know. I, and I do think
00:44:17.840that both thomas and alito are justices too if you pressured them or started saying hey time to
00:44:22.760show you the door that would make them stick around um but they're not dummies about the
00:44:27.240political calculation so i gotta imagine that that's part of their consideration no doubt new
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00:57:38.100Now, just to share with everybody what the tweet was, this is from CNN's official account, which has millions and millions of followers still.
00:57:45.360two pennsylvania teenagers crossed into new york city saturday morning for what could have been a
00:57:51.940normal day enjoying the city during abnormally warm weather but in less than an hour their lives
00:57:57.900would be drastically changed as they would be arrested for throwing homemade bombs during an
00:58:02.600anti-muslim protest outside of zoran mamdani's home clay that construct of how to tell this story
00:58:10.500is like clinically insane i mean you could do this with anybody it would say you know it's like
00:58:15.200osama bin laden was having just another day eating some chunks of goat in a cave in afghanistan
00:58:22.080thinking about a quranic verse and then i mean all of a sudden on his tv the planes ran into
00:58:27.740the buildings like what are you doing yeah and this is where it becomes significant to me
00:58:33.540a lot of times people can screw up i've written a lot you've written a lot we talk a lot
00:58:40.100four hours plus every day variety of different topics to me what is an utter indictment of what
00:58:47.300you just read that went viral this morning is it's a product of the culture of cnn in other words
00:58:55.140that you know this articles don't go up on cnn.com without having been vetted by multiple editors
00:59:01.080and i would submit that a cnn account does not tweet something out without it having the ability
00:59:09.200to have been overseed by multiple editors, which is a good thing, right?
00:59:13.020You don't want CNN suddenly tweeting out 100% inaccurate news
00:59:18.380because it could be very traumatic to the nation as a whole, right?
00:59:23.040If suddenly CNN said, hey, something awful has happened to President Trump
00:59:27.480and it's not true at all, it could alter the marketplace people see on stock markets,