Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Mar 24 2026

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00:00:20.300 Welcome in Tuesday edition.

00:00:23.160 Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.

00:00:25.400 I am down at our Jacksonville, Florida affiliate.

00:00:30.640 We appreciate all of our affiliates.

00:00:32.420 Always like to give them a shout out when we're in different studios.

00:00:34.880 You can be listening to us at AM 600 FM 101.1 in the Jacksonville area.

00:00:41.500 Buck, you were just here.

00:00:43.260 That is WBOB.

00:00:46.140 And we were talking about this yesterday, that Jax Beach,

00:00:50.400 one of the great under-discussed parts of the country,

00:00:54.140 people listening to us in jacksonville beach area right now are either saying shut up guys we love

00:00:59.540 it here you're going to drive up property costs or they're saying finally people are noticing how

00:01:04.600 great it is here gotta be gotta be a top five maybe top three underrated beach community in

00:01:11.580 the whole country in my opinion it's pretty awesome underrated um and uh they used to be

00:01:17.460 decent at football down here so um for the jacksonville jaguar fans out there i know i know

00:01:23.280 they had a good year and honestly it's not very far from the University of Florida where Buck

00:01:28.500 Sexton's wife is an alum unfortunately they got whipped by Iowa in the NCAA tournament and are

00:01:34.920 out did you even know that Buck I did not but it looks like I lost one on the bracket because I

00:01:39.320 always bet on Florida I'm always betting on Florida so the Gators are out uh we will have

00:01:44.920 some fun who did you have to win the whole thing by the way I went to Houston just because I've

00:01:49.180 heard the name so many times houston is my pick i think duke's actually going to lose to say john's

00:01:54.040 this uh this upcoming sweet 16 game but both of our teams are still alive houston's got a tough

00:01:58.460 matchup uh as well uh and uh we'll be taking a bunch of your calls by the way stevie yates

00:02:04.240 good guest here because a lot of people have been saying what do i need to know about this

00:02:08.580 straight up hormuz it's in the news a lot i understand a lot of you are having to learn

00:02:12.760 a lot of geography here as the situation in iran continues uh we will discuss that with him plus

00:02:18.740 we just got talked about this yesterday uh senator marcia blackburn is going to join us

00:02:23.720 in the third hour she was with president trump in memphis um on his visit to that city where

00:02:30.160 crime is plummeting i also want to throw out the the phone number here for people who live in

00:02:35.620 memphis uh in the wake of the president's visit i'm curious for all of you listening in memphis

00:02:41.140 How much difference have you seen in Memphis since the president's surge happened?

00:02:47.280 800-282-2882.

00:02:49.840 But I wanted to start with this.

00:02:51.980 Linda in Arizona continues to dominate the news cycle.

00:02:57.040 There are tons of stories about her.

00:02:58.900 This morning, as we were getting ready to come on the program,

00:03:01.960 the Washington Post wanted to interview us.

00:03:04.960 They want to interview Linda.

00:03:08.120 So if she is listening right now, producer Greg is going to ask whether you want to be interviewed by the Washington Post.

00:03:15.040 So for everybody out there who is calling, you never know when you might step in and become a major part of the national story.

00:03:21.020 And, Buck, I flew this morning out of Nashville.

00:03:25.260 Zero issues with the TSA there.

00:03:27.760 Every time I go through the Nashville TSA, I meet listeners.

00:03:32.320 I meet fans of the show.

00:03:34.600 I love the Nashville airport.

00:03:36.540 and I love the TSA there.

00:03:39.640 I appreciate everybody working.

00:03:40.780 I'm going to be flying out this evening out of Jacksonville

00:03:43.980 because I'm speaking at an event down here and then headed back home.

00:03:47.740 And what I saw was things seemed to be moving and progressing well.

00:03:52.000 It appears, Buck, that TSA agent presence has actually helped

00:03:57.600 with a lot of call-outs going on, a lot of sicknesses,

00:04:00.840 a lot of people saying, hey, you know what, I've got to do another job.

00:04:04.020 I've got to be able to make money.

00:04:05.100 I've got child care issues.

00:04:06.800 I've got to make sure that I can pay my bills, which I totally understand, which is why this is so unfair.

00:04:12.580 And I think that that the TSA agents are, in fact, helping because wait times seem to be down.

00:04:20.340 Based on what I have seen this morning in the wake of TSA agents being deployed to help then allow, as Linda argued and I think is happening,

00:04:30.020 tsa agents to be reallocated because otherwise they don't have to watch in you know exits and

00:04:35.540 entrances and all these different things at the airport uh so we will see exactly how this plays

00:04:40.140 out but i did want to say uh this is a i think a super cool example of president trump paying

00:04:47.320 attention and the relationship that he has with his voters yesterday i went on after we had this

00:04:53.700 show buck i went on with our friend will kane um and uh and i said this on our radio show as well

00:05:00.320 i said hey president trump uh i bet linda grandmother of five uh mom of a couple of kids

00:05:07.900 i said she's a big fan i bet she would appreciate an autographed copy of the uh trump was right

00:05:15.320 about everything hat within an hour of me saying that president trump's team had texted and they

00:05:23.040 have signed if you go on twitter you can see it we'll share it from clay and buck if we haven't

00:05:27.280 already uh linda has a personally signed president trump hat uh that he signed for her yesterday on

00:05:35.100 air force one that he is sending to us that we will then route to linda as a thank you for being

00:05:41.140 a supporter and helping to come up with a great idea um i know there's a lot of stories out there

00:05:46.920 To me, Buck, as we just told the Washington Post, and we all know how talking to media that doesn't love us often goes, so I have no idea how that story will turn out, but I actually think irrespective of what your opinion is of President Trump, the fact that he is able to see a good idea and act on it basically in the space of 72 hours is a warp speed response from government.

00:06:13.840 I think Linda's idea was a good one. She put it out into the ecosystem. It did not exist before her call. And shortly thereafter, the president of the United States is acting on it.

00:06:25.140 I don't know that there's any example of a president behaving this way where he listens to his voters and tries to respond and is willing to accept their good ideas that we have ever seen.

00:06:37.900 i think it is a great story um and if i were advising the white house i would lean in on it

00:06:43.780 we're going to take great ideas no matter where they come from you can be a nobel prize winning

00:06:47.980 economist economist or you can be a grandma of five good ideas are good ideas we're going to

00:06:54.580 try to move on them when we see them and i think it's an incredible testament to him well that's

00:06:59.640 the way that government should function it goes back to clay uh what i was saying yesterday about

00:07:04.900 how the simple genius of trumpism is figure out the obvious thing to do to make it better and do

00:07:10.920 that thing and this one now to be fair this is not an obvious thing to make it better uh this was uh

00:07:17.280 there was some artistry there was some creative thinking in this one but trump is willing to do

00:07:22.360 the thing that will work or do the thing that is a break from what everybody else in consistent

00:07:29.480 failure has been offering as the only alternative or the best option or whatever it may be so i'm

00:07:36.140 very happy to see that this has been deployed uh it is quite it's classic isn't it i'm traveling

00:07:41.980 for one day and clay and the audience decide to fix america in 24 hours so well done uh i i knew

00:07:49.280 i knew the ship was in good hands i knew with you at the con things would would go uh would go

00:07:55.120 smoothly and in this case better than smoothly it looks like may have really done an end run on the

00:08:00.860 democrats here clay i still believe that if nothing else it'll help the lines a bit which

00:08:07.000 is good but it also just shows the democrats are causing this because there's no way if republicans

00:08:13.220 were causing even if you're not paying attention to politics if republicans were causing the long

00:08:17.080 tsa lines now they're going to send ice over instead of just having the tsa do their jobs

00:08:23.140 and be and be funded no of course this is democrats and and it brings me back to uh

00:08:29.480 counterinsurgency theory democrats are waging a political insurgency in an election year

00:08:34.360 insurgents just have to make things bad they have to make things dysfunctional miserable dangerous 0.97

00:08:40.500 whatever and then they say see they can't protect you they can't make it better the people in charge

00:08:45.560 are bad the people in charge are the ones that are failing you even though it's the insurgents

00:08:50.720 that are blowing up the village and making sure that no one can get food.

00:08:53.860 But they say, see, they can't make things better for you.

00:08:57.000 Put us in charge and things will be fine.

00:08:58.900 That's what Democrats are doing. 0.92

00:09:00.380 They're political insurgents. 0.95

00:09:02.060 They're making you miserable at the airport.

00:09:04.020 They're slowing down travel.

00:09:05.300 They're creating frustration because there's not enough frustration out there

00:09:10.780 for them to capitalize on from bad Trump policy or bad problems.

00:09:14.880 You know, they want the Iran war to be this huge cleavage in the MAGA base.

00:09:22.820 It's not.

00:09:24.220 All the polling, you know, are we taking irate calls about the Iran war?

00:09:29.900 No, we're not.

00:09:30.660 We're open to them.

00:09:32.060 But people are saying, yeah, look, I trust Trump to play this out.

00:09:35.320 I trust Trump to figure out the best way for the country to move forward on this.

00:09:40.520 That seems like 80, 90 percent of Trump voters right now.

00:09:44.880 Which is pretty solid.

00:09:46.240 So this is why they have to make the TSA thing a point of misery,

00:09:49.140 because otherwise, economy's good, border's secure.

00:09:53.640 Trump is, you know, you've got to let him cook on Iran.

00:09:56.680 He's doing his thing.

00:09:58.080 What else are they going to point to?

00:09:59.840 I think that's the other part of this is that's unfortunate.

00:10:03.440 A lot of Democrats are trying, I've seen it,

00:10:07.760 to say TSA failure is a function entirely of Trump and Republicans.

00:10:13.080 and frankly there's a lot of people who believe that because they are in such a sheltered media

00:10:20.040 ecosystem that all they can think of is orange man bad buck i had some fun with this i posted

00:10:27.340 this last night because i did think it was funny the left wing out there is outraged by the idea

00:10:34.680 that ice agents wear masks and their latest concern is what if ice agents wear masks at the airport

00:10:42.300 The funniest thing about this, as you well know, is the people who are wearing masks at the airport still after six years are concerned that the ICE agents might be wearing masks at the airport.

00:10:55.960 It wasn't very long ago, and I'm still radicalized and angry about it, that they were all lecturing us.

00:11:02.460 Remember when they would say, Buck, my mask protects you and your mask protects me, which is why flight attendants were monitoring how long you sipped from a drink or chewed your peanuts.

00:11:16.660 I guess they don't have peanuts anymore because of all the peanut allergies, your pretzels on the airplane and walking around and saying, excuse me, sir, excuse me, ma'am, you're keeping your mask down for too long.

00:11:29.500 So if you truly believe that masks were important, shouldn't you be applauding the fact that the ICE agents were wearing their masks in the airport?

00:11:38.420 Isn't wearing their masks keeping you safe?

00:11:42.600 That is what they argued with us six years ago, and I'm still not going to forget it

00:11:46.820 because they were such draconian, awful authoritarians for that entire process,

00:11:53.620 and now many of them just want to pretend that it never happened.

00:11:57.520 It's also a perfect example of this tells you everything you need to know.

00:12:03.000 If someone is currently walking through an airport anywhere in America wearing a cloth mask

00:12:08.440 yep and and and they have an opinion of any kind on politics and they're you know they maybe just

00:12:14.200 don't know anything and that's why they're wearing the mask they could just be wildly

00:12:16.700 ignorant of all things that's possible but if they have an opinion on say ice 100 chance 100

00:12:23.720 chance that they are outraged about what happened in minneapolis wearing a mask to protect you from 0.94

00:12:31.860 germs which does not work it does not work it never worked it's very obvious people what about

00:12:37.320 surgeons during yeah because that they're up close and they have saliva and stuff could fall

00:12:41.120 into the wound that's a different thing but anyway um doesn't work clay and yet a hundred percent

00:12:47.180 chance that they're very upset about trump there is not a single republican in america right now

00:12:52.960 walking around not a single trump voter in an airport with a mask on who's like covet is still

00:12:58.160 real that's right that's a hundred percent true and so i do think it's funny that these are the

00:13:03.400 people that are claimed to be the most outraged and upset and terrified of the fact that ICE

00:13:08.280 is acting as they are in airports which by the way doesn't mean that everything's going to get

00:13:14.760 better it's just kind of a bandage to help with the disaster that Democrats have created and if

00:13:22.300 you're standing in a line and I know that some of you are as you listen to us you're headed into

00:13:29.060 airports honestly if i were thinking about buck traveling to houston new orleans uh new york city

00:13:36.240 atlanta based on some of the information that i have seen over the past few years i wouldn't go

00:13:41.220 if i had a trip scheduled right now to land at iah in houston and i knew i was going to have to fly

00:13:46.860 back out i would not go if i were headed to atlanta i wouldn't go if i were headed to new

00:13:51.640 york city i wouldn't go um i just i'm not willing to stand in line for hours there are very few trips

00:13:58.240 that are so necessary to make that I would be willing to stand in line for hours to make them.

00:14:07.380 All very good points.

00:14:08.860 We'll come into some of your calls and talkbacks here about all this.

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00:14:18.040 Just throwing it out there, you know?

00:14:21.060 It happened once, it could happen again.

00:14:23.960 All right, now something serious we've got to dive into,

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00:14:29.600 I got a lot of lethal options here.

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00:16:13.500 second hour of clay in buck kicks off now let's talk straight of hormuz the conflict with iran

00:16:22.340 and bringing our friend steve yates he's a senior fellow at the heritage foundation a former bush

00:16:27.260 national security uh official and steve just just take us through as you see it here we know

00:16:35.960 hormuz is a choke point why is this so complicated what do you think can be done about it how do we

00:16:44.340 resolve this thing i saw an editorial in the journal wall street journal saying you know we

00:16:50.260 just got to land troops to secure the strait and it's just going to be a quick operation and i'm

00:16:54.500 like whoa hold on hold on a second uh i've heard that before what do you think about what's going

00:16:59.820 on here? Well, Buck, as you know, it's a very confined geography. That's one of the major

00:17:06.380 challenges. It's a very long strip of waterway where Iran has shoreline all along one side.

00:17:13.980 There are some very, very wealthy neighbors on the other side of that water that would like to get

00:17:18.340 their energy out to market. And then it goes through this very narrow strait that is a choke

00:17:25.000 point. There's an island in the middle of it that Trump has hit some military targets on and has

00:17:29.580 talked about maybe taking control over that is responsible for refining and has an extremely

00:17:35.940 high proportion of Iran's oil endowment. So I think people who say this is a simple military

00:17:41.380 operation might be underselling it a bit. They are so close to Iran geographically that even

00:17:46.980 with remnants, you might still get hit. And I think that's why President Trump has done this

00:17:51.980 maximum pressure, but then pull back and say, if we can get a deal that gets them to relent,

00:17:58.980 and we reopen things, then we're in a better place.

00:18:01.880 And he also has pressured allies to say,

00:18:04.460 you know, we have a really small American percentage of this oil.

00:18:08.020 You guys come in and shepherd your vessels out of here

00:18:11.880 and the Iranians shouldn't shoot at you.

00:18:13.800 And so I think there's these at least two layers

00:18:16.160 that really need to get handled before the curve is turned on this.

00:18:20.320 Steve, I think a lot of our listeners are just not very familiar

00:18:24.300 with the Strait of Hormuz in general.

00:18:27.220 Based on my reading, the vast majority of oil and gas that is coming through the Strait of Hormuz

00:18:32.780 has no impact on the United States oil and gas marketplace at all.

00:18:38.140 And I think much of it ends up going to China.

00:18:41.780 With that in context, to what extent actually should this be a larger global issue?

00:18:49.560 A lot of the focus has been on the United States oil and gas market,

00:18:52.580 But really, it's more of a global issue than it is a United States one.

00:18:57.600 Well, Clay, that's right. But first and foremost, oil is a fungible good, which is a fancy word of meaning.

00:19:03.040 It can it can shift in value and get sold and bought in any number of different ways.

00:19:09.100 And so when oil goes out of this restricted area and goes to China, that affects global supply in the market and it affects prices.

00:19:17.440 And so any release of resources out of this conflict zone will have downward pressure on price in some measure.

00:19:25.560 It's definitely the case that China is the overwhelming buyer of Iran oil,

00:19:29.620 partly because it's been sanctioned for a long time and they've gotten it at a discount.

00:19:33.540 President Trump is trying to remove that discount and get them to pay for a little bit of the security freight.

00:19:39.100 India also depends on a good bit of this, too.

00:19:41.980 But it's definitely one of these global commons issues of where Europeans depend to some degree and Asian major powers depend in a large degree.

00:19:51.240 And America's providing them a service that Trump aims to pay, get them to pay a bill for.

00:19:55.680 Steve how do you assess the Trump

00:19:58.860 I'm going to

00:20:01.200 speaking from the Trump perspective here

00:20:03.000 said we're going to hit

00:20:04.900 the energy facilities

00:20:06.960 power plants I believe and energy facilities

00:20:09.280 in Iran unless

00:20:11.220 they open the strait

00:20:13.400 but then we heard there's some

00:20:15.160 back channel negotiations so he has

00:20:17.360 put that red line

00:20:19.300 or he has moved that timeline

00:20:21.420 down a bit

00:20:22.580 how do you think this is going is it possible

00:20:25.500 to read into this i mean i know with trump i feel like part of the strategy is actually a little bit

00:20:32.720 of the perception of chaos that uh that the opposition can take from his statements what

00:20:38.240 do you think about what he's doing well buck you know from people who've been long-time

00:20:43.360 practitioners we think of this as somewhat straight statecraft i think of it as trump

00:20:47.260 craft he hits like a sledgehammer and then he'll pull back and he'll look for where are their deals

00:20:53.320 And he recognizes just common sense that if we can get them to relent and engage in some kind of a verifiable deal, that is safer, more endurable, and it's a much preferable path to go down.

00:21:06.300 At the same time, even though his critics will never recognize it, he's being reasonable.

00:21:11.580 He's giving them off ramps every step along this way so that if they miss this deadline, and I suspect they might miss this deadline, Trump will hit them hard.

00:21:20.740 But he's tried to leave the civilian energy infrastructure intact so that post-conflict reconstruction is cheaper and better for the people of Iran if they can take their country.

00:21:33.060 So he's trying to do them a solid.

00:21:34.920 Hopefully they recognize it.

00:21:36.500 But I would make no mistake about it.

00:21:37.920 This deadline passes very much further.

00:21:40.220 Trump's going to hit them hard.

00:21:41.580 And that is kind of a classical form of warfare.

00:21:44.280 You take the energy out to end the war machine.

00:21:47.640 That's how you get total surrender.

00:21:49.100 We're talking to Stevie Yates. As we've been talking to you in the last, I don't know, 10, 15 minutes, the story from The Wall Street Journal, U.S. has ordered 3,082nd airborne soldiers to the Middle East.

00:22:03.340 Trump has given Iran a Friday deadline.

00:22:07.580 What do you think it would look like if there were to be a raid?

00:22:12.880 And I say raid because I don't think we're going to be setting up bases in Iran that potentially could involve Karj Island or putting troops to try to protect the Strait of Hormuz.

00:22:24.160 In a big picture sense, what might that look like?

00:22:27.440 And obviously, Trump is at least threatening that he might do so with these actions.

00:22:33.340 Well, I do think the Karg Island option is very much front and center. I really don't like the option personally of the U.S. being kind of the sole provider of security in this. It really should be something that is a shared responsibility, especially among those Gulf allies who have been hit by Iran and now say they're going to hit back and they need to provide security for their flows to go to market. 0.80

00:22:58.240 So I really hope the president is working behind the scenes to get them involved so that there's skin in the game in every sense.

00:23:04.760 And it's not just American targets for Iran, Iranian forces to hit.

00:23:09.300 We would have to just knock the crap out of their coastline to have a safe buffer buffer for ships. 0.74

00:23:15.740 And we'd probably have to occupy Carg Island to control that.

00:23:19.780 Do we have a sense we're speaking to Stephen Yates, senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation, national security expert, Steve,

00:23:26.900 Do we have a sense of what the acceptable endgame is here?

00:23:32.940 Again, Trump has indicated numerous times of an endgame or what maybe it looks like, depending on the day.

00:23:42.200 But I think there's variations on a theme here.

00:23:45.000 Where do you think what do you think would be acceptable for this to get to at least a ceasefire and some next phase?

00:23:52.520 Right. Well, Buck, I think of it as getting to a de-escalation point that sort of pivots into longer-term maintenance. And I think President Trump has been clear about some of the standards. One has been hyper-focused on the nuclear programs. That's combined U.S. and Israeli operations that might involve having to have some forces, hopefully not ours, but some forces going in to physically control and verify disarmament in those sensitive facilities.

00:24:19.600 the launch capabilities, complete defanging of the security forces. I think that's also been

00:24:25.000 more the Israeli mission in recent days. So I think it's overwhelmingly getting the flow of

00:24:32.820 resources, not just because we love oil, although that's a good thing to love to keep the world

00:24:36.960 running. It's to make it so that markets calm, resources flow, and there's a sense of where we

00:24:42.680 can get post major military operations. I think that we should and must get there in the next

00:24:48.580 week or two and that's where we'll get a sense of is this tipping into a more complex entanglement

00:24:56.180 or have we really hit all those targets that the secretary of war and the president have said we

00:25:01.060 have trump has been talking about doing this since the 1980s uh there have been people out there who

00:25:07.200 have said oh he only did this because of israel buck and i have talked about this i'm curious how

00:25:12.280 you would analyze the likelihood of this i can see a world where the united states says hey we've done

00:25:17.760 everything we want to do and pulls back and Israel continues to hit Iran. What do you think

00:25:23.600 the likelihood of that is that this union of attack eventually turns into a solitary attack

00:25:30.140 from Israel? Well, I 100% agree that it's going to change. I don't want it to be solitary in the 0.84

00:25:37.320 sense that I really seriously hope that our regional partners play more of a role in

00:25:42.520 constructively shaping the security and economic environment there after major military operations

00:25:48.240 wind down. I believe completely the president has his set of clear objectives. He wants to make sure

00:25:54.660 there's a return on the investment, but he's definitely, I think, going to be looking in the

00:25:59.280 shorter term horizon, whereas Israel and maybe some other partners really need to do the constant

00:26:04.700 gardening in the longer term. We can hit every once in a while when necessary. I think that's

00:26:09.960 appropriate for the united states as a superpower but we can't be the one that's micromanaging this

00:26:15.120 even in the months much less years range going after this what does a realistic future of the

00:26:24.100 iranian state look like that would be uh clear evidence that the trump plan here has has worked

00:26:32.860 i mean essentially steve what what is uh yeah for victory for us is obviously straight up

00:26:38.320 Hormuz is open, oil is flowing, we have some kind of, as you said, a de-escalation agreement.

00:26:43.520 Got to figure out what the Israelis are going to do in this as well.

00:26:45.880 I figure there's going to be some high-level, the highest-level talks between Trump and Netanyahu on this.

00:26:51.540 But is there a world in which we decide we can live with the mullahs still kind of in charge, 1.00

00:26:57.400 but they're just really wimpy and frightened mullahs? 0.77

00:27:01.540 or is it some kind of a pathway to a representative democracy,

00:27:07.260 maybe overseen by some Arab League transition process?

00:27:13.260 I mean, I'm basically asking you to fix the Middle East here, 1.00

00:27:15.400 but we had a lady call in and fix the DHS problem with TSA. 1.00

00:27:19.700 So, you know, you've been doing this for like 30, 40 years, Steve.

00:27:23.040 You tell me, how does the next phase of Iran look 0.99

00:27:25.740 if this all goes according to plan?

00:27:28.020 Well, Buck, the first sign I'm looking for is an actual human being with a name that is the person or group that President Trump has been negotiating with directly or indirectly.

00:27:39.220 I think for their own life sake, they have kept this person anonymous, a lot of speculation.

00:27:46.200 But really, if there's going to be a soft transition, it's going to have to be into the hands of some entity that's recognizable so that we and others in the international community can make deals that ensure the peace and get through this transition.

00:28:00.960 So first, we're going to have to see who's the they when President Trump says they have made a commitment to denuclearize.

00:28:07.380 That would be a major win, if that's true. And I believe the president is hearing that. But complete, verifiable, irreversible dismantlement of that program is a 30 plus year long objective. If President Trump did that in a month or two, that's borderline miraculous.

00:28:23.040 And so getting that person identified, that group identified, and then international peacekeepers or verifiers, that's where we can go back to the allies and say, you guys have got to come up with a coalition that does this. You run into problems. We might be your 911.

00:28:37.380 But what not? We're not your daily daddy. Last question, CV8s. There are reports that Saudi 1.00

00:28:43.780 Arabia is encouraging Trump to keep pouring on the steel, so to speak, on Iran, UAE, Qatar, 0.72

00:28:52.160 based on reports, kicking Iranian diplomats out of their country is the most under discussed part

00:29:01.780 of this entire attack, how much support there is for it from so-called other Arab Muslim countries?

00:29:09.840 Clay, that's ultimately been the biggest rebuttal to this idea that it was somehow Israel that on

00:29:15.680 its own dragged us into this. For years, I have heard from Arab allies deep, deep concerns. And

00:29:22.380 it was frankly welcomed by then when Trump 1.0 brought in the maximum pressure campaign to get

00:29:28.960 away from the Obama-Iran nuclear deal. They were the key drivers that made the Abraham Accords a 0.92

00:29:36.620 reality. It was, yes, the U.S. and Israel involved and very much so, but it was Arab allies that

00:29:42.360 pushed very, very hard in this. And this really ultimately gets back to Trump craft 1.0. He's

00:29:48.960 resetting all of these trouble zones with different cards and different coalitions. And I think those

00:29:54.860 Arab allies are sick of what Iran has done to them during this conflict and really over the last

00:29:59.860 decades. Steve, outstanding stuff as always. Keep us updated. I know the audience is going to

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00:32:01.180 welcome back in clay travis buck sexton show our number three about to be joined by senator

00:32:09.080 marsha blackburn one bit of news being reported as we speak this is according to axios the u.s

00:32:16.800 and a group of regional mediators are discussing the possibility of holding high-level peace talks

00:32:22.880 with Iran as soon as Thursday, but are still waiting for an official response from Tehran.

00:32:29.900 Two sources with knowledge of the discussion tell Axios. We will see what is going on

00:32:37.800 on airports. We've got some updates for you from across the nation, but we bring in now

00:32:43.840 senator marcia blackburn of the great state of tennessee and i know yesterday senator blackburn

00:32:49.820 you were with president trump as he toured memphis including graceland uh and talked about the

00:32:56.240 massive decline that we have seen in overall violent crime since there was a surge of federal

00:33:02.400 support uh you represent the state you were just there what should people know nationwide about

00:33:08.100 what's happening in memphis memphis is the model clay if you want to get crime down in your city

00:33:16.620 look at what memphis has done and the partnership that is there with local state and federal elected

00:33:22.860 officials and local state and federal agencies all working together and it takes it all as a team

00:33:29.880 And when Cash Patel and Pam Bondi were coming through their confirmations for FBI and Attorney General, I asked each of them and then got a public commitment from them to help us.

00:33:45.940 They jumped in.

00:33:47.620 They worked with their agencies.

00:33:49.640 Federal agencies worked with the local police.

00:33:52.520 They worked with the Tennessee Highway Patrol and National Guard and Tennessee Bureau of Investigations.

00:33:59.180 Our U.S. attorney, our U.S. marshal, and 30 federal agencies on the ground working, helping.

00:34:07.600 And because of that, in under six months, we have cut the crime rate in Memphis by half.

00:34:15.600 And Memphis is on its way from being the most dangerous city per capita in the country to being one of the safest cities.

00:34:24.200 That shows you when the people with a Democrat mayor, Democrat elected, Democrat police chief stand up and say, we are going to work with these resources, with these agencies, with all of these elected officials, we are going to do this for the good of the people.

00:34:44.900 Then this is the type result that you get.

00:34:48.120 Hey, Senator Blackburn, it's Buck.

00:34:49.960 This is such a remarkable story.

00:34:51.420 We've seen similar numbers in D.C., and I know as the crime stats are compiled from cities where there's been this federal intervention to bring crime down, we're going to keep seeing this.

00:35:03.860 But I think you laid into a critical point there, which is that this is a Democrat-controlled city still.

00:35:11.320 They were willing to work with the federal government to bring the crime rate down.

00:35:16.740 Is there any hope in your mind that we might see this then in some other Democrat-controlled cities?

00:35:23.420 Because if you're the mayor, you know, maybe you have aspirations to be a governor or a senator, perhaps, in a state.

00:35:30.000 But there are a few things that I would believe could be a bigger benefit to any mayor

00:35:36.040 than be able to look at his constituents when he wants or she wants to run for re-election and say,

00:35:40.500 yeah, we brought the violent crime rate down 50%.

00:35:43.980 and that is something that is so vitally important you know the people that

00:35:50.540 came to the round table we did in memphis yesterday had remarkable stories and the people

00:35:57.380 that were in the room buck you would have loved listening to these people they weren't partisan

00:36:03.640 they were citizens of the city of memphis who have dealt with this crime issue and for them

00:36:10.120 to be able to talk about sitting on their porch and drinking a glass of tea and not worrying about

00:36:16.340 a bullet coming through the house, for them to talk about being a small business owner and not

00:36:22.000 having landscaping equipment or delivery equipment stolen, or employees not being robbed when they

00:36:29.540 were leaving work, and hear about children back to class. They're not skipping school. They are

00:36:38.440 going back to school. They're not being recruited by gangs because many of these gangs have been

00:36:44.660 run out of the city of Memphis. Memphis has seen more than 9,000 arrests, 9,000 in the last five

00:36:56.240 months. These are violent criminal arrests, and you have crime down significantly in every category.

00:37:04.180 Motor vehicle thefts are down 65% in Memphis.

00:37:09.520 And when you focus on an issue and say we're going to surge, and then once we surge, we're going to look at those results and we're going to figure out how to sustain that good work.

00:37:25.280 And we're going to do it all in partnership for the safety of the people of our city.

00:37:31.680 We're talking to Senator Marsha Blackburn.

00:37:34.660 Right now, as we are speaking to you, Senator, Mark Wayne Mullen, one of your former, I guess

00:37:40.580 I could say now, Senate colleagues, has been sworn in as the head of DHS.

00:37:44.840 I believe yesterday he was confirmed by a vote of 54 to 45, including your support.

00:37:51.820 What can you tell us about Mark Wayne Mullen?

00:37:53.960 What do you think he will be like as DHS head?

00:37:58.160 He is a very good friend of mine.

00:38:00.740 And Mark Wayne is someone who is going to work diligently.

00:38:06.480 He understands how you run a business, how you lead people.

00:38:10.980 And, you know, that is the most important thing in an organization, is knowing how to lead people and how to manage assets.

00:38:20.280 And Mark Wayne gets that.

00:38:22.260 He gets the difference in that.

00:38:24.440 He is given to protecting our great nation.

00:38:27.880 He knows and supports President Trump in his America First agenda.

00:38:33.280 And it was exciting to be on the floor with him last night to have his family here and to see their excitement as he was named our nation's secretary of Homeland Security.

00:38:44.820 speaking to senator marcia blackburn right now and you know we are seeing these uh breaking

00:38:52.500 reports from just today senator about some of these airports that have been so snarled because

00:38:58.080 of democrats really manufacturing a travel crisis that's what has been going on but now this

00:39:04.940 ice deployment into these airports has substantially if not completely alleviated

00:39:12.380 that uh tsa congestion uh this is pretty remarkable i have to ask you center do you know that there is

00:39:20.280 some belief that this originated with a call in to the show on friday uh and clay immediately then

00:39:27.020 took it to fox and then the president ran with this it looks like this strategy is working

00:39:31.580 it is indeed working and putting ice over at the airports demand the exits uh as people walk out of

00:39:41.120 the secured areas and to prohibit people from running through the entrance into that exit or

00:39:49.000 through that exit into the secured area to check IDs, identifications, to assist PSA employees who

00:39:58.520 are overworked right now. And we continue to work to try to find a way to get DHS fully funded.

00:40:06.920 we have a group that has been working with the White House. It is a part of our appropriations

00:40:13.700 committee, those members, and they are trying to find a way forward. And then we're also discussing

00:40:20.720 doing a public safety reconciliation, where we will look at bolstering the funds that are necessary

00:40:28.220 to continue the public safety efforts for our nation. We're talking to Senator Marsha Blackburn.

00:40:35.120 You spend a lot of time in Washington, D.C.

00:40:38.160 The overall violent crime rate has collapsed in Washington, D.C.

00:40:42.200 You were just in Memphis.

00:40:43.400 You just shared the data with us about how much the crime rate has collapsed in Memphis.

00:40:48.880 Isn't it now the case that using both these cities as sort of experiments, for lack of a better way to describe it,

00:40:56.440 that there are tons of cities out there that if we did the exact same thing, we could save a massive amount of lives?

00:41:03.640 shouldn't we just start to apply these lessons nationwide oh yes and when you look at the

00:41:09.600 difference in memphis and minneapolis think about that one where in memphis they embraced

00:41:16.780 the help and welcomed the help and then they moved forward with making the city secure and as i said

00:41:24.060 now 9 000 arrests later and i will also add in addition to the hundreds of vehicles that have

00:41:32.600 been recovered the hundreds of weapons that have been taken off the street they have found over

00:41:37.660 150 missing children that were being held by people and they have been returned home and as

00:41:46.100 I said you've got hundreds of children that have gone back to school they're not joining the gangs

00:41:51.240 and other cities should be looking at this and you know you look at somewhere like Chicago or

00:41:59.280 LA or San Francisco that has such horrific issues. You look at cities that are sanctuary cities

00:42:07.360 for illegal immigration, and you say, why are they harboring these criminal illegal aliens?

00:42:14.780 And then you look at Memphis, where citizens are walking up to you. You know, people call our office

00:42:21.120 every single day, and they say, thank you so much for focusing on Memphis, for bringing peace

00:42:27.980 to our city for helping to get the crime down no doubt so much yeah senator uh by the way congrats

00:42:38.760 on polling i don't know if you comment on polling very much but i saw that you have

00:42:42.880 a 50 point lead in the upcoming governor's race uh which will frankly largely be decided in august

00:42:50.940 when the republican primary happens so congrats on how well that campaign is going well thank you

00:42:57.460 we are working hard and working to earn every vote and grateful for those good polls that are

00:43:03.960 coming our way no doubt that is senator marcia blackburn soon to be the next governor of the

00:43:09.280 great state of tennessee my governor look forward to that uh and i want to tell you right now if you

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00:45:21.800 Buck, I saw this news story come out.

00:45:23.760 We've been talking about TSA and ICE obviously being deployed to 13 different airports,

00:45:29.400 thanks to Linda in Arizona, who has a hat signed by President Trump on her way.

00:45:36.640 um and um i wanted to hit a couple of things here that i saw this morning as i was uh headed into

00:45:44.440 work um and today i headed into work on southwest airlines flying down to jacksonville super smooth

00:45:51.560 um thanks to the southwest crew and also thanks to nashville's tsa no line at all there when i

00:45:58.080 came through this morning and the guys and gals there were doing great work even though they're

00:46:02.060 working without pay but this story atlanta i bet you i don't know if you saw this yet buck

00:46:07.060 delta airlines announced this week it suspended its standalone service for members of congress

00:46:14.320 until the tsa is fully funded i love this great move delta quote due to the impact on resources

00:46:22.940 from the long-standing government shutdown delta will temporarily suspend specialty services to

00:46:30.500 members of Congress flying Delta. Next to safety, Delta's number one priority is taking care of our

00:46:37.780 people and customers, which has become increasingly difficult in the current environment. A spokesman

00:46:44.500 for Delta, this is from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, said House and Senate members

00:46:49.900 will now be treated like all flying passengers based on their SkyMiles status. In other words,

00:46:56.820 just like you and me i first of all i don't think i don't know what you think about this buck

00:47:04.240 i don't think house and senate members should get special status now if you fly all the time and

00:47:10.080 you're a medallion member or a frequent flyer whatever the the phrase is that these different

00:47:16.080 airlines use fine because you're spending a lot of money and they want to treat you better because

00:47:21.240 you're a valued customer all those things can make sense but there are 535 members of the house and

00:47:29.080 senate how many people do you think are regularly recognized and harassed and again you're inside of

00:47:37.440 an airport so we know there's not people with guns or knives or anything that would make it violent

00:47:42.900 there um i don't know that they should ever return this privilege and certainly when tsa is not

00:47:49.180 getting paid i like taking it away but i don't know that they these guys really deserve special

00:47:54.760 privilege anyway like why can't an average member of congress or the senate stand in line like

00:48:01.580 everybody else what are your thoughts on this yeah i think it's a weird almost like a celebrity

00:48:07.360 uh you know fringe benefit that is not there's no reason i am i am i all in favor of calling out

00:48:15.380 united states military to the front of the line let them board absolutely for serving in the

00:48:19.840 military congress yeah some of them serve some of them serve themselves mostly actually they serve

00:48:25.900 themselves i'm not about to say that they can't be like the rest of us in fact i think the more

00:48:30.380 that members of congress have to act like normal people the better for all of us i'm all in favor

00:48:36.520 i for example hit the roof as so many people did when congress exempted themselves from obamacare

00:48:43.400 remember that oh yeah of course oh we're gonna force this on all of you but i mean we're gonna 0.91

00:48:47.100 have our gold-plated awesome plans but you can have the crap plans i i would just continue to

00:48:52.400 say this and i think it would end lockdowns and shutdowns and everything else once and for all

00:48:57.620 if congress can't get a budget passed then congress shouldn't get paid period for the whole year like

00:49:05.160 if you can't your job is to get budgets passed we keep having all these lockdowns all these

00:49:12.020 shutdowns and people who are normal hard-working uh employees are losing their ability to get paid

00:49:18.740 so to me if you're in congress and you can't get a budget passed you shouldn't get paid

00:49:23.940 and i think it would immediately go away buck i think if if house and senate members had to get

00:49:31.020 a had to deal with the same things that they're putting other people through i think they would

00:49:36.760 get paid and look i i think there are house and senate members that do not have a lot of money

00:49:41.260 Right there. And those people should be driving this, because if you're having to live on your salary and pay your mortgage and pay for your kids, daycare or whatever else, then you should understand better than the average super millionaire who is being funded by George Soros, probably, and isn't having to live on what they actually make.

00:50:06.460 it's easier i think for those people to say hey we're just going to shut down the government what

00:50:10.580 do we care i think if you started saying congress doesn't get paid for the year that they shut down

00:50:17.280 i think this would end once and for all and i don't think it's good our friend senator ron johnson

00:50:22.180 of wisconsin has laid out in the wall street journal and we've had him on talking about this

00:50:26.080 a super logical process for the budget that requires everything to get done i was just

00:50:32.260 reading his piece he had a good piece about the filibuster over the weekend and uh and he said

00:50:37.620 look i mean it's 49 out of 50 states i think have a balanced budget requirement so state governments

00:50:44.480 tend to balance their budgets go figure uh the federal government doesn't and i think incompetence

00:50:50.280 should not be rewarded and so when i saw this story from delta airlines i said good for delta

00:50:55.120 because remember all the ceos of the airlines came out and said fun tsa get this taken care of

00:51:01.760 we want this done um and uh i just think it's a uh i just think it's a no-brainer i don't know

00:51:07.500 that i would return this service if i were delta uh candidly and so i mean that makes sense to you

00:51:15.660 yeah absolutely and i'm glad the airlines are fighting back a little bit here but this is

00:51:20.420 nonsense because as you all know the airline employees are taking a lot of the brunt of this

00:51:25.340 you think people are going to be in a good mood when they walk up to the the ticket counter or

00:51:31.080 whatever or they get on a plane and deal with the attendants and the pilot crew you think people are

00:51:35.920 going to be nice and in a good mood after waiting four hours in a tsa line i mean i i'd be i'd be

00:51:42.260 steaming mad uh try to be polite to the people had nothing to do with it but i think any person

00:51:46.620 would have really had more than their fill and the frustration would be boiling over so this is

00:51:52.300 this is absolutely uh the right move for them to do and it's also just it's just so classic the

00:51:57.340 democrats are doing this and it's it's all based in in the lie the lie is that somehow this is

00:52:05.100 republicans creating these lines because they won't just bend the knee and let democrats have

00:52:10.360 control over immigration enforcement yes that's not the way that this works they don't have the

00:52:15.080 executive branch the executive branch should not be bending the knee when democrats are in the

00:52:20.820 minority to how laws are enforced by federal agencies because democrats get sad about the

00:52:27.880 enforcement of federal law sorry so they're willing to just make people miserable and unhappy and then

00:52:34.760 lie about who did it i you know i just to me this just shows you what what really a an unethical and

00:52:41.760 pretty depraved party the democrats have become this is the best they can do because if they were

00:52:47.100 admitting to everybody yeah guys we're the reason we're so dedicated to illegal aliens that we think 0.68

00:52:52.960 we want to keep so many illegal aliens in this country that we don't even want the child predators 1.00

00:52:58.680 and the gang members and the murderers to be deported we want to keep them all we want to 0.73

00:53:03.940 keep all those illegals so you're waiting in line because democrats don't want any of those illegals 1.00

00:53:09.980 even the worst of the worst illegals sent back to the countries that are actually the countries that 0.87

00:53:14.960 they belong in if they're willing to do that clay i would say all right but they're not right they're

00:53:20.500 playing a game here and the game is oh we're willing to open up the tsa if only republicans

00:53:26.000 would play play ball with us like what are you talking about what are you really standing for

00:53:30.640 by the way president trump is speaking right now we'll play some of this audio

00:53:35.020 but i'll read this quote this is from the rapid response 47 account uh on iran we're in

00:53:42.580 negotiations right now i can tell you they'd like to make a deal who wouldn't if you were there look

00:53:48.560 their navy's gone their air force is gone their communications are gone pretty much everything

00:53:54.300 they have is gone that is president trump speaking at the mark wayne mullen swearing in um and uh

00:54:02.560 he says there's a change in the uh leadership iran's leaders are all different than the ones

00:54:08.120 who started um and then there are uh additional quotes coming out so we will keep uh running on

00:54:15.140 this president trump speaking as we are talking with all of you in the oval office right now

00:54:20.700 uh says rubio and vance are involved in negotiations with iran in addition to jared

00:54:26.940 kushner and steve whitkoff um okay uh we will update you on that in the meantime if you are

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