Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - May 14 2026

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00:00:39 Thursday edition Clay and Buck.

00:00:42 Big news in China where it is, what, 11 p.m., I believe.

00:00:47 I didn't expect that I needed to be right off the top.

00:00:49 12 p.m.

00:00:50 12 p.m. in Beijing.

00:00:52 I think they're 12 hours ahead of us, 12 a.m.

00:00:55 Man, it's already Friday in Beijing.

00:00:57 There have been tons of news stories come out of the state visit that is going on between

00:01:02 President Trump and Chairman Xi of China, and overall seems to be a great deal of positivity

00:01:12 from day one of these discussions.

00:01:15 As I am speaking to all of you, the stock market buck has set yet again record all-time

00:01:24 highs and this has led to a uh just immense run the likes of which frankly we have rarely seen

00:01:33 in the history of the stock market buck is a crazy stat for you last april if you had bought stock

00:01:41 at the absolute uh lows when they told you trump is going to destroy the economy

00:01:47 The S&P 500 had fallen just barely beneath 5,000 is my recollection, or right around 5,000.

00:01:55 The S&P 500 is now up above 7,500.

00:02:00 It is up over 50% in the space of one year.

00:02:06 I think my math is correct there.

00:02:08 The mathematicians out there who are smarter than me, from 5,000 to over 7,500, that's

00:02:16 an unparalleled unprecedented incredible surge in overall stock market valuations uh that means

00:02:25 all of your 401ks record highs that means all of your uh sundry retirement accounts that means all

00:02:33 your kids college funds that means i mean the amount of wealth that has been created in the

00:02:38 last year alone across the entirety of the united states economic economic system is frankly almost

00:02:45 without parallel in terms of one year 50 increase from bottoms in april of last year it's crazy

00:02:52 and even if you didn't buy stock if you just held on you're up 50 since last april that is wild

00:03:00 okay so super positivity associated with that now let's dive into the particular unique

00:03:08 circumstances of the moment buck and that is people out there saying valid legitimate okay

00:03:15 clay how does that translate into my day-to-day cost i understand stock markets at record highs

00:03:22 that's great if you own stocks which by the way i bet 75 80 maybe 90 of this audience does

00:03:28 is that a fair approximation over 60 of americans own stocks now uh and if you have any kind of

00:03:37 retirement account at all which all of you should have because i i hate to give a little bit of

00:03:42 negativity here but i think i can speak for you too buck i don't have a lot of faith in the social

00:03:46 security system uh for your in mind's age people if you're in your 40s uh i'm not sure that social

00:03:54 security that we're gonna get anywhere near the money that we put in back out just fyi so i want

00:04:00 to control the things the best of my ability,

00:04:03 so I want to be invested in American commerce.

00:04:06 Now, how does this all translate directly

00:04:10 into the thing that people care about the most right now?

00:04:13 Gas prices.

00:04:14 Very positive stories here, Buck,

00:04:16 that there is a basic, seems to be, agreement

00:04:23 that China is going to lean on Iran and basically say,

00:04:28 hey you've got to open up the Strait of Hormuz. President Trump has said that China has agreed

00:04:33 to talk to Iran. I saw a report buck that 30 different ships today translated the Strait of

00:04:40 Hormuz sort of went through the Strait of Hormuz came through many of them related to China so

00:04:49 Iran is at least listening to China when it comes to Chinese flagged ships and Chinese produce and

00:04:55 and oil and gas and everything else the question is how much of that leaning will translate other

00:05:02 areas and how quickly will the price of oil and gas come back all of that is legitimate to be

00:05:09 asked but i think it's fair to say that day one of this big summit uh has gone quite well uh how

00:05:17 does that square with your take overall of day one what is the biggest news story going on right now

00:05:23 well we have this official statement from the white house which i think is a good jumping

00:05:29 off point for how things are going president trump had a good meeting with president xi of china

00:05:34 the two sides discuss ways to enhance economic cooperation between our two countries including

00:05:39 expanding market access for american businesses into china and increasing chinese investment into

00:05:44 our industries leaders from many of the united states's largest companies joined a portion of

00:05:49 the meeting the president also highlighted the need to build on progress in ending the flow of

00:05:54 fentanyl precursors into the united states as well as increasing chinese purchases of american

00:05:58 agricultural products the two sides agreed that the strait of hormuz must remain open to support

00:06:05 the free flow of energy president xi also made clear china's opposition to the militarization

00:06:10 of the strait and any effort to charge a toll for its use and he expressed interest in purchasing

00:06:16 more american oil to reduce china's dependence on the strait in the future both countries agreed

00:06:20 that iran can never have a nuclear weapon so here's what i would say first of all if if anyone

00:06:27 could come away from the first day of the summit saying oh my gosh this is a disaster we would have

00:06:32 big big problems these things these kind of high level diplomatic talks are meant to certainly in

00:06:39 the early phase meant to make both sides look good to the home team right no one want you don't want

00:06:45 the other side to look bad and you certainly don't want to look bad going into this so there's going

00:06:49 to be a lot of agreeing in principle agreeing in general you know agreeing that iran can never have

00:06:55 a nuclear weapon okay that's nice that means nothing a lot of the things here that are agreed

00:06:59 upon in principle don't really mean anything other than yeah china will say that they're with us in

00:07:06 theory on that uh but we have to look at where the rubber meets the road and that's still to be

00:07:12 decided i think and you've noticed clay and none of this was there any talk of for example

00:07:17 taiwan which is going to be and we'll talk to our friend stevie yates about this later

00:07:21 a major sticking point in the actual takeaways and agreements here um at least in terms of tone

00:07:30 if not in terms of an actual solid uh anything i mean they're probably will be only tone because

00:07:36 They're going to say, you know, we like to play in the gray zone in a whole bunch of ways,

00:07:43 in the gray zone as it pertains to Taiwan, and so does China.

00:07:46 So, yes, the stock market's super high today.

00:07:48 That's good.

00:07:49 Where are gas prices today?

00:07:51 Did you check?

00:07:52 It's about $100 a barrel.

00:07:54 The futures, they've stayed effectively the same for the past several days.

00:07:59 So when the war started, the futures were about $68 a barrel on gas-ish at the end of February.

00:08:07 They're right at $100 right now on the futures going forward.

00:08:12 So 45% to 50% up, something like that is where they are.

00:08:17 I really hope that that number starts to come down.

00:08:21 You will note that in the Strait of Hormuz talk here, they both agree that it should be open.

00:08:27 Okay.

00:08:27 You know who doesn't agree that it should be open right now

00:08:30 Iran 0.60

00:08:31 So you know we can agree with China

00:08:34 On a lot of things and that's fine

00:08:35 There's no discussion here

00:08:38 Of the sticking point issues

00:08:39 This is Clay the high five

00:08:41 Hey we can see eye to eye on the following

00:08:44 Things day

00:08:45 I think there's going to be more

00:08:47 About where this is heading

00:08:50 In the next few you know in the next 12

00:08:52 To 24 hours

00:08:53 And for example Trump here was saying

00:08:56 that he's really appreciative of the magnificent welcome.

00:09:02 This has got five guys.

00:09:03 Play this one.

00:09:04 It was a fantastic day.

00:09:06 And in particular, I want to thank President Xi, my friend,

00:09:10 for this magnificent welcome.

00:09:13 And it really was a magnificent welcome like none other.

00:09:16 And for so graciously hosting us on this very historic state visit.

00:09:21 We had extremely positive and productive conversations and meetings today.

00:09:26 with the Chinese delegation earlier.

00:09:29 And this evening is another cherished opportunity to discuss among friends

00:09:33 some of the things that we discussed today,

00:09:36 all good for the United States and for China.

00:09:40 And it was a great honor to be with you.

00:09:43 So, Clay, I like that they're starting off with all the positives,

00:09:46 all the agreement, and these two men having a personal relationship.

00:09:51 And they are the leaders of the two most powerful and important countries in the world.

00:09:55 I think when they get into actual trade agreement stuff

00:09:58 Taiwan and a couple of other things

00:10:01 Trump will likely come out of this I think

00:10:03 With a promise to continue the rare earth

00:10:06 You know, rare earth supply chain for us

00:10:10 So that will be a win

00:10:11 I'm trying to think of other areas

00:10:14 Of the actual takeaway part of this

00:10:18 That will be on the good side

00:10:20 Remember, we had Trump got all this stuff going with China

00:10:24 and agreements in the first term and then biden just basically didn't enforce any of it

00:10:28 so the other problem we have here is as you've noted she is going to be in charge for the

00:10:34 foreseeable trump has to operate under a timetable here and a timetable yes affected by the midterms

00:10:40 coming up um trump talked with our buddy sean hannity who'll be on many of these stations

00:10:46 right after us sean is in beijing right now a couple of different cuts that i thought were

00:10:51 significant from that conversation I've sent one to producer Greg about Trump saying China has

00:10:57 agreed to help with Strait of Hormuz traffic and again there are reports that 30 different ships

00:11:03 have now cleared the Strait of Hormuz that are related to China which would suggest that maybe

00:11:09 there have been significant conversations behind the scenes between China and Iran but here Trump

00:11:15 said that Chairman Xi had told him we will not be giving any military equipment to Iran, cut one.

00:11:23 The issue, and you've been asked about it, and you've spoken about it,

00:11:28 and that is China's support of Iran.

00:11:32 How big a discussion was that today?

00:11:34 We discussed it.

00:11:36 I mean, when you say support, they're not fighting a war with us or anything.

00:11:41 No.

00:11:41 He said he's not going to give military equipment.

00:11:44 That's a big statement.

00:11:45 I mean, he said that today.

00:11:45 That's a big statement.

00:11:47 He said that strongly.

00:11:49 But at the same time, he said, you know, they buy a lot of their oil there,

00:11:52 and they'd like to keep doing that.

00:11:55 So, again, this is what we talked about before,

00:11:59 and I think you got the benefit of actually seeing it.

00:12:02 I suspect, Buck, that they will agree to disagree.

00:12:06 I saw Marco Rubio had some sort of strong comments on what would happen with Taiwan,

00:12:12 and some people out there say, why should we care?

00:12:14 And I do think it's worth pointing this out. If we don't get the semiconductors, if we don't get the chips, basically all of AI and all of the investment that's going on right now that is propelling much of the economic growth in this country would cease to exist.

00:12:34 So China's in trouble because they don't produce a lot of oil and gas related to the Strait of Hormuz.

00:12:39 We would be in trouble if China controlled all of Taiwan's semiconductor chips. 0.61

00:12:45 That's a pretty good way, I think, of distilling the danger geopolitically that each country would face. 0.84

00:12:51 Yeah, the modern economy, as we know, would come to a screeching halt without the supply of chips from Taiwan.

00:12:57 No one disagrees with that, I might add. 1.00

00:12:59 There's no way around this.

00:13:00 You can't take 90% of supply.

00:13:03 They make 90% of the super high-end chips, and people might say, well, why can't we do this, or why can't other countries?

00:13:09 Because they can't, because the level of technology and know-how that TSMC has is higher than really anywhere else in the world.

00:13:18 No one else can do it.

00:13:19 Remember, it's not just the tech and the know-how.

00:13:21 It's also to be able to do it at scale to keep their suppliers, you know, to keep up with demand, to keep that supply going.

00:13:29 so uh and there's you know it's it's an immensely complicated clay when i sat with tsmc in september

00:13:36 i think they said i want to say roughly there are 5 000 different supply chain elements that

00:13:42 they rely on for their chips i mean think about that all the different things that they need

00:13:47 to be able to make these chips 5 000 different items that they have to get externally from taiwan

00:13:53 okay so the the level of complex there is no more complex uh manufacturing in the in the world 0.79

00:14:03 than what is going on on the island of taiwan and they know it and we know it and china knows it

00:14:08 and it changes you know it's pretty remarkable that a small island with a population of about

00:14:13 20 million people has what is right now the most critical technology of the 21st century

00:14:18 and has 90 percent of that market so you know there's big things that are all in the mix here

00:14:25 and and no one's really clear on you know whether china first of all even if china tried to take

00:14:31 over these labs clay it's not clear that they could even operate them so even if china invaded

00:14:36 could china even operate the labs that tsmc has would tsmc destroy a lot of its intellectual

00:14:41 property because of it you know there's a lot of things that people haven't really been able to

00:14:45 to assess and know the answers to i get a lot of people saying why should we care about taiwan

00:14:53 taiwan that's the answer because our government and our economy could not exist right now

00:14:59 without the semiconductor chips that we are getting from taiwan if it became clear if if

00:15:05 there were amphibious landing craft missile strikes airstrikes going on if it was clear

00:15:10 that invasion of taiwan was happening i think you would see the stock market drop 50 overnight and

00:15:15 i think you would see a global depression within weeks yes so that's why we should care because

00:15:21 some people are just like i don't care why should we care what happens with china and taiwan i'll

00:15:25 just say it brutally taiwan is not eastern ukraine my friends it's not that we we you want to ignore

00:15:31 this one you can't ignore this one there's no ignoring this and lift there's no ignoring this 0.52

00:15:35 and not you know uh propelling us into a mad max future very quickly at least with the way things

00:15:40 are now maybe in 10 years you know but the way things are now there's no way you can allow that

00:15:46 look we are trying to your point to onshore production of these semiconductor chips but

00:15:50 we're a long way to being able to have any sort of self-sufficiency associated with and you can

00:15:55 imagine taiwan is like i don't want to do that yeah right that's that doesn't sound like a good

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00:18:08 Is this Shaft?

00:18:09 This is the Shaft music, isn't it?

00:18:11 Is that Burn Baby Burn is what this, Disco Inferno.

00:18:15 Oh, yeah, Disco Inferno.

00:18:16 I thought this was the Shaft music.

00:18:18 We haven't played this in a long time.

00:18:19 You know what I mean?

00:18:20 You got to leave the music to me sometimes.

00:18:23 You stay with the sports ball.

00:18:25 You know what I mean?

00:18:26 most of the time unless Taylor Swift is on the 90s the 90s and Taylor Swift I'm pretty good at

00:18:32 um pretty good wait but but do you ever do you ever think about whenever we hear that song

00:18:36 we're gonna get into Kamala in a second I gotta just jump in with this you remember Ghostbusters

00:18:41 when Louis Tully played by the fantastic Rick Moranis a big comedic actor of particularly the

00:18:48 80s and he has the beautiful blonde come up to him and they're playing burn baby burn in the

00:18:53 background and he says that he doesn't invite friends only clients so he can do a tax write-off

00:18:58 for the party and then he says who brought the dog and the like the goblin thing like jumps out

00:19:04 of the closet it's great what is uh rick moranis's best role on the spot i think it's that i mean

00:19:12 his biggest franchise was definitely honey i shrunk the honey i think honey i shrunk the kids

00:19:17 Which was a huge 80s movie, huge, huge.

00:19:20 And then he also did, was he in Little Shop of Horrors?

00:19:24 Little Shop of Horrors.

00:19:25 Was he in like a movie, a football, some kind of like a kid's football movie?

00:19:30 I can't remember what it's called.

00:19:31 You know what I mean?

00:19:31 He's like a coach or something.

00:19:33 Little Giants?

00:19:33 I don't remember that.

00:19:34 Little Giants?

00:19:35 Isn't that right?

00:19:36 No?

00:19:36 Oh, yeah.

00:19:37 Maybe.

00:19:37 I don't know.

00:19:39 This is going to, people are going to be, I don't think I've seen Little Giants.

00:19:44 I am right.

00:19:44 Little Giants.

00:19:45 Yeah.

00:19:45 Yeah, look at me with the sports ball reference.

00:19:48 Is he still alive?

00:19:50 Oh, Rick, I used to play tennis with him.

00:19:51 Yeah, he's great.

00:19:52 Okay, good.

00:19:53 Great.

00:19:53 Yeah.

00:19:54 No, he's doing great.

00:19:54 He lives in New York.

00:19:56 I was nervous.

00:19:56 He's actually, I think he's actually been cast in something coming up.

00:20:01 I think they might be either, I forget, they're either bringing back Honey, I Shrunk the Kids

00:20:06 or something.

00:20:06 So you know how they've had the Ghostbusters nostalgia.

00:20:09 You've seen some of the old Ghostbusters movies, which you really enjoyed.

00:20:12 The non-all-female Ghostbuster, they've been pretty good. 0.93

00:20:16 I thought that was good. 0.99

00:20:17 No, the all-female Ghostbuster was trash, but the other thing, the more recent one, 1.00

00:20:21 it was pretty good. 0.98

00:20:22 It was fun, the one that they brought back.

00:20:24 I forget, Paul Rudd's in it, I think, right?

00:20:26 That one.

00:20:27 He was in Spaceballs as well, for those of us who remember that illustrious film.

00:20:33 Oh, that's right, Spaceballs.

00:20:35 I had forgotten about his work in Spaceballs.

00:20:39 But the Who Brought the Dog is only excelled in Ghostbusters lore

00:20:45 by the doorman who goes, a bear in his apartment,

00:20:49 and then the thing runs through the lobby.

00:20:51 Remember that?

00:20:52 Anyway, I've seen Ghostbusters a lot.

00:20:53 Ghostbusters holds up really, really well.

00:20:57 And speaking of, I went last night.

00:21:00 We'll get to Kamala at the top of the next hour.

00:21:02 Kamala will still be there.

00:21:04 Kamala will still be good at the top of the next hour.

00:21:06 I went to go see the new Nate Bargatze movie, The Breadwinner, last night.

00:21:11 They had the premiere in Nashville at a movie theater he said he used to go to, Hollywood 27.

00:21:17 For those of you who know Nashville, it was kind of a big movie theater that opened probably around, like, 95, something like that.

00:21:24 We would go there in high school.

00:21:25 It was a huge movie theater near downtown Nashville.

00:21:29 Breadwinner, and I was thinking about this, and it's interesting we brought up, like, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, Rick Moranis, Ghostbusters.

00:21:36 It's a PG movie that is not animated.

00:21:42 They almost have stopped making, think about this for a minute for the larger culture out there,

00:21:48 they almost have stopped making PG movies that are live action.

00:21:52 That is not a Pixar movie, not a Disney movie, not some sort of definite children's movie.

00:22:00 This show, and I was texting with Nate last night about it, this movie,

00:22:05 he basically is gambling here and Sony I think who's distributing it has the much bigger gamble

00:22:13 but there is still a market for parents to take kids the whole family can go I went and saw it

00:22:20 last night it is a 1980s era PG movie now it's not Goonies which is one of the greatest movies

00:22:29 ever been made uh but it is a movie that you can take your seven and eight year old to and you can

00:22:36 sit and watch it with them and i guarantee you you will not leave concerned about something that

00:22:42 they saw in the movie and that you will all of you be able to laugh at it i don't know if there

00:22:48 is still a huge marketplace out there because again so much of streaming has changed things

00:22:55 every niche is served and so we don't go as much after big colossal audiences as we did in the 80s

00:23:02 and 90s i still think there's probably a market for this and i like it i think you guys what is

00:23:08 coming back space balls too i thought honey i shrunk the kids no rick moranis is coming back

00:23:13 in space balls too which i think actually could be really good so uh space balls too coming soon

00:23:20 to a, well, I don't know how soon, but it will be coming

00:23:22 to a theater near you.

00:23:24 The other movie thing that we haven't

00:23:26 talked about yet, but it is getting a lot

00:23:28 of attention online, and people

00:23:30 feel very passionately about this, because it has to do

00:23:32 it's a Christopher Nolan project.

00:23:35 And Christopher

00:23:36 Nolan is, I

00:23:38 think, a wildly overrated

00:23:40 director. I will tell you, wildly

00:23:42 overrated. I think he has made a few

00:23:44 very good movies,

00:23:46 which were really two of the

00:23:48 Batman movies he did.

00:23:50 those are very, very good movies.

00:23:52 I enjoyed them.

00:23:53 I think they're pretty awesome.

00:23:54 And, you know, they certainly answered the mail.

00:23:57 They certainly got it done as superhero films.

00:24:00 The third one was, you know, it was good.

00:24:03 It was kind of, the whole thing was a little preposterous, though, actually,

00:24:06 even for superhero stuff.

00:24:08 Put that aside, though.

00:24:09 I think some of his other stuff, really,

00:24:12 I never met anybody who could explain what Inception was really.

00:24:16 It's just a lot of slow motion nonsense. 0.57

00:24:19 The whole thing is absurd.

00:24:20 Okay, Inception's not a good movie.

00:24:21 Get mad at me.

00:24:22 I'm right.

00:24:22 You're wrong.

00:24:23 Inception's not a good movie.

00:24:24 He's making The Odyssey, and there have been some choices made in The Odyssey.

00:24:29 Have you seen this, Clay?

00:24:30 This is getting a lot of people very, very tired of.

00:24:31 I was talking about it last night with Laura.

00:24:33 We were waiting for the Nate Bargatze movie to start, and I was saying,

00:24:37 hey, have you seen some of the casting decisions that Christopher Nolan has made in The Odyssey?

00:24:41 This is what we were talking about as we were sitting in the theater before the movie started.

00:24:45 and and the two things that have gotten the most attention are um helen of troy and this has been

00:24:53 confirmed i believe is has been cast as a um i think i think she's from africa i don't think

00:25:00 i think that's right a a a black actress is helen of troy some people are just sort of saying you

00:25:10 know so we're doing this thing that netflix always does where remember troy greeks it's a part of the

00:25:16 world it's historical this is a little bit like casting which really happened a black female as

00:25:23 a viking king in a netflix show that i watched yeah so it's supposed to be the 800s in what is

00:25:29 basically uh denmark and sweden and there's a black woman who's in charge of all the white guys

00:25:34 that that's a little it takes you out of it it kind of breaks the fourth wall it takes you out

00:25:39 of the realm of suspending your disbelief

00:25:41 a little bit, but the other one that's getting

00:25:43 even more attention, what do you

00:25:45 think about this one?

00:25:46 Is this confirmed to be true

00:25:49 100%? This one is not

00:25:51 confirmed yet, so it could

00:25:53 be a massive trolling

00:25:55 campaign, I think, but they're

00:25:57 saying that Achilles,

00:26:00 renowned as

00:26:01 the greatest warrior of the

00:26:03 ancient world, right?

00:26:05 I think people looking back at the movie

00:26:07 Troy with Brad Pitt, that's

00:26:09 a great movie i think we were i i think uh roman helmet guy is his handle on twitter he i think i

00:26:16 got to give him credit for this he was saying we got a little spoiled for a while it's either roman

00:26:20 helmet guy or matt walsh who are probably related because they're both like bearded smart grumpy

00:26:25 guys that like appreciate the classics in history um but we had braveheart troy master and commander

00:26:33 We had all these epics coming out.

00:26:35 Gladiator.

00:26:36 Don't forget Gladiator.

00:26:37 I think that's what actually snowed Troy under, is it happened so close to Gladiator.

00:26:43 And Gladiator was such a perfect epic that people, yes.

00:26:48 And this insight, whether it was Matt Walsh or Roman Helmet guy, I totally agree with it.

00:26:51 I think we got a little spoiled for a while, where we just, people were making these epics, 0.62

00:26:57 and they're basically perfect movies.

00:26:58 I mean, they're phenomenally well done, incredibly well.

00:27:02 You know, by the way, I put Last of the Mohicans, which is a little earlier,

00:27:05 but I put that in that category of like a historic epic.

00:27:07 I mean, there's some of these movies.

00:27:08 Some of you put Mel Gibson's The Patriot in that category.

00:27:12 You know, if you want to kind of go more modern, Saving Private Ryan.

00:27:16 But these movies that are truly epic in scope and that are amazing

00:27:19 and stand the test of time, Troy, I think,

00:27:22 they're all made in about a 10 to 15-year span.

00:27:25 Troy is definitely in that category.

00:27:26 Clay, The Odyssey now has, if you're wondering why we're talking about this,

00:27:30 i don't know elliot page formerly right isn't that the name no is it elliot is that right yeah

00:27:37 elliot now used to be ellen page used to be ellen page they just dead named ellen page elliot page

00:27:45 who's a trans actor now or actress who says he's a man or whatever ellen page was as a cute know

00:27:52 became famous as a girl comedic juno was a pretty good movie who got pregnant remember it

00:27:59 she got pregnant as a teenager right that was the entire conceit and then Ellen Page decided no no

00:28:06 no I'm actually a dude and is now Elliot Page now Ellen Page Laura my wife was saying I didn't look

00:28:15 at this she's like five foot tall weighs like a hundred pounds I mean is tiny and they are saying

00:28:21 that they have put him her her him whichever you want to say in as Achilles who was one of the

00:28:27 greatest warriors of all time and this is the world in which we now live if this you know that

00:28:34 you know juno got a lot of criticism as a movie clay because she had the baby that's right that's 0.88

00:28:41 what i remember it was like people were super angry because she should have aborted the baby

00:28:45 because it was an unwanted pregnancy what do you mean you actually had what do you mean you brought

00:28:48 life into the world what do you mean you made the right choice uh so the leftist the the ghoulish

00:28:53 left were very angry about

00:28:55 Juno because

00:28:56 she had the baby in the movie 0.84

00:28:58 you're not supposed to do that

00:29:00 not according to the left 0.79

00:29:02 so now she's 1.00

00:29:04 Achilles though as she's trans

00:29:06 that's what they're all saying

00:29:07 if this is the case

00:29:09 this movie is toast

00:29:11 however it's very interesting

00:29:13 the rules for getting an Oscar

00:29:15 are crazy

00:29:18 and I'm wondering

00:29:19 can we page

00:29:21 like doj harmeet dylan over in civil rights or whatever why are the oscars allowed to have these

00:29:28 rules i don't understand we know that we can't do this in college admissions anymore why can the

00:29:33 oscars say and a lot of you are like buck who cares about the oscars you know yes but also we

00:29:38 can't just cede all of culture to the other side we did that for a long time guys by the way and

00:29:43 you know we got obama and eight years of of socialist craziness so let's not just like let

00:29:48 the other side have all the movies all the books all the magazines all the internet all the news

00:29:52 um let's actually fight back on this stuff a little bit here and there why why should the

00:29:58 oscars be able to have straight up racial quotas for people to be able to win an award for a movie

00:30:05 i don't understand how that's even legal it i i agree with you i think it should be looked into

00:30:11 By the way, and so if this is true, we don't know if it's 100% true.

00:30:17 Braveheart, by the way, Buck, 1995.

00:30:20 Gladiator, 2000.

00:30:22 Troy, 2004.

00:30:23 I think that thesis is 100%.

00:30:25 I think Gladiator was so good in particular that if Troy came out in 2020,

00:30:33 I think people would have been far more impressed by it than they were by it coming out in 2004

00:30:39 because it was so close to that epic, incredible film.

00:30:43 But no, look, this is something that I deeply believe in.

00:30:47 I put my own money behind it.

00:30:49 Obviously, I started Outkick.

00:30:50 I'm working on starting a new media company now as well.

00:30:55 You have to win culture.

00:30:58 You have to matter in culture.

00:31:01 You can't just seed it.

00:31:03 You can't just say, well, I don't know why you even care about this.

00:31:05 you know there's people who will get upset um uh when they're when sports is in the news with

00:31:11 politics when culture is in the news with politics um it's like when i started doing sports talk

00:31:18 radio buck uh 20 some odd years ago whatever the heck it was now there were guys that would call

00:31:23 in and say just give me the scores why don't you just give me the scores i'm like well i mean the

00:31:29 scores are easy to find what matters is the context the conversation that surrounds the scores

00:31:35 Basic facts are out there.

00:31:38 Now, sometimes they're hard to find, but you win with culture.

00:31:41 Politics is downstream of culture.

00:31:43 That's one of the most true things that I think has ever been said.

00:31:46 The culture shift, I'm optimistic, has become significant.

00:31:50 I think Nate Bargatze's movie, The Breadwinner, being made.

00:31:53 I think the fact that the most popular comedian in America right now is a clean comedian is evidence of there being a desperate desire for something that people can share together.

00:32:04 I think one reason sports has gotten popular, new ratings highs, Buck,

00:32:08 is because there is a desperate demand in this streaming age

00:32:12 for still big events that we all come together and experience together.

00:32:16 And so I think culture matters in that context in a massive way.

00:32:20 I think Bergazi and there are others who aren't as clean as his comedy is,

00:32:24 but there are others who are actually doing, truly doing comedy now,

00:32:27 whereas we've gotten used to particularly the late night hosts

00:32:31 are leftist commentators who make fun of people.

00:32:34 that's what who make fun of republicans that's actually what they are they're not comedians

00:32:38 they are leftist political commentators who make fun of trump and people who vote for trump

00:32:42 Nate Borghazi is a comedian anyone can go to his shows and they will laugh because it is funny and

00:32:50 it is meant for everyone and that's actually the way it should be it should be meant to make people 0.60

00:32:54 laugh uh not to be a constant lecture by dimwits who are reading off of a prompter all right when

00:33:01 we talk about the people of israel we're talking about people connected to a promise it's a promise 0.83

00:33:04 made by god one he's never broken and one that continues even today and that matters especially

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00:33:56 buck sexton show we are joined now by our friend senator dave mccormick of pennsylvania had a great

00:34:03 dinner at his house the night before the white house correspondence dinner and actually we

00:34:08 finished the dinner at your house uh senator thanks for having wife and i over among uh among

00:34:15 others an awesome time and your wife uh dina powell mccormick who is now at facebook we'll

00:34:21 get into all the different political machinations on uh on pennsylvania and more and what's going on

00:34:27 in the senate but she's in beijing right now have you been able to talk to her text with her hear

00:34:32 from her what has she said about that state visit uh trip so far yeah well listen thanks good good

00:34:39 to be with you guys now i'm super proud of her you know she's the president of meta so it's a big

00:34:43 deal um we haven't i haven't had a chance to get much of a download on the trip i just know she's

00:34:48 there safe. And she told me she was in the dinner and it was amazing. But, you know, it's an

00:34:53 important it's an important trip. And, you know, I always start this by saying I think I think we

00:34:59 got to we got to talk about China is the true adversary that it is. Our starting point has to 0.95

00:35:05 be that China is vying for global superpower to replace America. And so I really applaud the 0.97

00:35:11 president's efforts at diplomacy. But we should have no doubt that we're dealing with a country

00:35:15 that is seeking to displace America. 0.92

00:35:18 And this summit with the president, I think, was focused on topics

00:35:23 that we hopefully have mutual interest, but we shouldn't doubt that their goal

00:35:27 is to get in front of us.

00:35:30 How do you think the trade negotiations, such as they're lined up here,

00:35:36 how do you think that's going to shake out with all of this?

00:35:39 My sense is from the preview analysis, China wants to push back pretty hard

00:35:45 on some of the Trump tariffs, and one of the tools they have in this

00:35:50 is certainly the rare earth minerals supply chain issue.

00:35:55 What do you think is likely to be at stake there,

00:35:58 and how are you hoping President Trump is able to bring this

00:36:02 to a next level, a next stage?

00:36:06 Well, you know, there's nobody that's been calling balls and strikes,

00:36:10 I think, more accurately on the China relationship

00:36:12 than President Trump over many decades.

00:36:14 He's identified that we've had a very unfair relationship.

00:36:18 I think the focus, you know, and I've been someone who said we should be very careful.

00:36:22 We should be strategic in decoupling.

00:36:24 And what I mean by that is not make ourselves dependent on China for anything that really matters to America's security.

00:36:31 But we are, unfortunately, at the moment, very dependent, particularly on rare earth metals, as you say.

00:36:37 I think there's a couple of things.

00:36:37 One, it's not exactly trade, but I think we've made a lot of progress and the president will

00:36:42 double down on the fentanyl pre-factors and stopping the flow of those into Mexico and

00:36:48 into the United States. That's what has killed almost 100,000 Americans a year for the last

00:36:53 four or five years. I think it'll be a big focus on farm products, soybeans, big deal

00:36:58 that China buys soybeans, buys natural gas, buys petroleum. And in a time when Iran is 0.83

00:37:06 and the strait is closed, I think American energy is going to be an area where we hopefully can find

00:37:12 common ground. It sounds like from the reporting that there's been an agreement on the H200

00:37:17 chips from NVIDIA. Frankly, I'm not in favor of that. Respectfully, I disagree with that. I think

00:37:24 it's not going to do anything but accelerate China's AI rise. But that was a decision I think

00:37:32 made, and that's very valuable to China. I think that's probably allowing them to make

00:37:36 some pretty significant concessions on the other side. And so, you know, I think the way I

00:37:41 talk about this, I think there's probably some tactical wins that the president's going to be

00:37:46 able to bring back and say, we've made real progress. Also making sure that China lives 0.99

00:37:51 up to the commitments it's made in the past. You're traveling around all over the ultimate

00:37:57 battleground state of Pennsylvania. I want to get kind of your read on what you see on the ground

00:38:02 in Pennsylvania. You won a close election, thankfully, Senate seat. John Fetterman is

00:38:08 also there. You have a very good relationship with Fetterman. I'm curious what you think his

00:38:12 political future is going to be. And generally, when you're going around and talking to your

00:38:17 constituents all over Pennsylvania, what are they telling you they care about the most as

00:38:22 the midterms get closer and closer? Yeah, I think it's I mean, I think they feel

00:38:27 mostly pretty good. Jobs, jobs, jobs. And the economy is the focus. I mean, they're certainly

00:38:34 very, very focused on Iran and other things. But I think they're really seeing the benefit

00:38:38 of a number of the big things President Trump has done, particularly energy dominance

00:38:43 for an energy state. We're the second largest producer of energy. We're the fourth largest

00:38:48 natural gas reserves in the world. So, Clay, if we were a country, we'd be number four.

00:38:53 And I was in Pennsylvania last week. I visited Shippingport. They're making a big coal conversion to natural gas. That's going to be 1.1 gigawatts, thousands of jobs building the energy capability and also the data centers.

00:39:07 I also went to or I've got to download a Homer City. This is a place that they're building 4.4 gigawatts of energy. That's 1% of domestic energy demand. So huge job creation from advanced manufacturing data centers and energy. I think they're feeling some more money in their pockets because of the Working Families Tax Cut Act. $3,500 on average, 11% more money in the pockets of folks.

00:39:33 But I also think they're feeling that that jump in gas prices. If you're living paycheck to paycheck, which a lot of Pennsylvanians are, $52,000 a year is the median income. And if gas goes up a buck and a quarter, man, you feel it. And so I don't want to downplay that they're feeling. And I think they know that we can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. So they support the president. But they're feeling the bite. And I think they're hoping and I'm hoping that that will come to an end relatively quickly.

00:40:00 You have a good relationship with Senator Fetterman, also from Pennsylvania.

00:40:05 I know he voted for your friend, Kevin Warsh, to be put on as chair of the new Fed board.

00:40:11 What can you tell us about Fetterman?

00:40:12 What do you see his future and about the new Fed chair?

00:40:17 You know, I've got a great relationship with him.

00:40:18 I admire him.

00:40:20 I think he's shown a lot of courage and independence.

00:40:24 And, you know, he campaigned against me.

00:40:25 But we forged a relationship where we both said, let's – what do we need to do together to help Pennsylvania?

00:40:32 Now, he – we disagree on a lot.

00:40:34 He votes 80 percent of the time or more with Democrats.

00:40:37 So it's not like we agree on everything, but we look for areas where we can do good things for Pennsylvania, whether it's fentanyl or whether it's funding for the highways or whatever it is.

00:40:48 I always tease him.

00:40:49 He's pretty popular in Pennsylvania.

00:40:50 Unfortunately, he's less and less popular with this party.

00:40:53 But if you looked across both parties and independents, he's more popular than I am.

00:40:59 And I always say, I say, hey, you may be more popular with Republicans than I am.

00:41:02 So who knows what his future holds?

00:41:06 I'm not sure.

00:41:07 I've never asked him what he plans to do.

00:41:09 I've never tried to encourage him to change parties.

00:41:12 I think he needs to do what's best for him.

00:41:15 But I think he's a pretty unique person.

00:41:18 And the thing, it's interesting, Clay.

00:41:19 I mean, of all the stuff we've done in Pennsylvania, the Energy and Innovation Summit, the jobs, all the investment that's coming, the thing people pull me aside and say the most about is the fact that he and I work together.

00:41:31 And I think, you know, maybe it's because Pennsylvania is a purple state.

00:41:34 I'm not sure. 0.74

00:41:34 But people respect that.

00:41:36 They're grateful for it.

00:41:38 So I think he's a pretty formidable figure.

00:41:39 I'm not sure what he'll do, but I'm wishing him the best.

00:41:43 We're speaking to Senator Dave McCormick of Pennsylvania.

00:41:45 Hey, Senator, appreciate you being with us.

00:41:47 And you unveiled something recently, the Unlock American Energy and Jobs Act.

00:41:54 So this has to do with federal permitting process.

00:41:59 It doesn't sound like something that's going to blow everyone's mind, but actually, I'm

00:42:02 sure it's incredibly important for the speed of business.

00:42:04 It's one of these things where government should get in the way a whole heck of a lot

00:42:08 less.

00:42:09 What can you tell us about this?

00:42:10 Yeah, well, first of all, I may not have sex appeal, but this is a big deal.

00:42:14 This is a big deal.

00:42:15 Let me tell you why.

00:42:16 I've told President Trump this, and I think he agrees.

00:42:21 This isn't just energy policy.

00:42:22 This is the single most important thing we could do for the economy.

00:42:25 It's a really big deal.

00:42:28 What's happening now is laws like the Clean Water Act and NEPA and other things have been

00:42:33 hijacked by the environmentalists, environmental activists, to stop investment, to stop investment

00:42:39 in projects like nuclear power plants and gas-fired plants.

00:42:43 And so what my legislation does is it streamlines permitting.

00:42:47 It takes about six years to get a permit on average for an energy project in America.

00:42:52 It took three and a half years to win World War II. 0.93

00:42:55 This is ridiculous. 0.76

00:42:56 And we have to stop it.

00:42:59 And so what the bill does is it basically puts a limited amount of time for environmental

00:43:03 review, one year.

00:43:06 It requires that if a permit is approved, it's permanent.

00:43:11 In other words, you can't re-litigate it down the road.

00:43:14 And finally, if you're going to disapprove a permit, you have to give a written justification

00:43:18 of how approving the permit would be in violation of the law.

00:43:22 Those seem so simple and common sense.

00:43:24 If we were able to do that, it would unlock $1.5 trillion of capital that's sitting on

00:43:32 the sidelines waiting for these projects.

00:43:33 And I was a CEO for a number of years.

00:43:35 I was an investor.

00:43:36 You can't live in this world of uncertainty where you allocate capital and then it gets re-litigated.

00:43:42 That's the reason three pipelines were canceled in Pennsylvania since 2019.

00:43:47 So this could be a big deal for the economy.

00:43:49 It's an area where I think we can find enough bipartisan support because the permitting, the accelerating and permitting, would be across everything.

00:43:59 It's nuclear.

00:44:00 It's natural gas.

00:44:01 It's coal.

00:44:02 It would be solar.

00:44:03 It would be wind.

00:44:04 Whatever it is, it supports an all-of-the-above-energy strategy.

00:44:08 It just extremelines the permitting for all.

00:44:10 Stock market is setting a record high today.

00:44:14 I shared that fact on social media.

00:44:17 Every time I do, people say, yeah, that's great, Clay, but I don't feel it.

00:44:23 Obviously, the oil and gas prices are up.

00:44:27 It sometimes takes a while.

00:44:29 As you well know, you're a business guy.

00:44:31 The U.S. economy is an aircraft carrier that you're trying to turn.

00:44:35 It takes a while for people to start to feel it.

00:44:37 So I'm curious how you straddle this, because Buck and I think about it a lot too.

00:44:43 The numbers are actually pretty good for the economy.

00:44:46 AI growth so far is very positive.

00:44:48 But when people don't feel that yet, when you are too optimistic,

00:44:52 you risk seeming out of touch with the way that people feel.

00:44:57 How do you reconcile on-the-ground data with really kind of emotional feels with larger economic trends?

00:45:04 Because I do think things are getting better, but if people don't feel it, they can say, oh, you're out of touch.

00:45:09 How do you balance it?

00:45:10 You're right.

00:45:10 Well, I completely agree with you in getting that messaging right.

00:45:14 The truth is as follows.

00:45:17 Things are better. 1.00

00:45:18 If you're a working family, things are better.

00:45:21 If you're anybody in the economy, things are better than they were under Joe Biden. 0.99

00:45:26 Inflation, take away the last two months because of what's happening with Iran,

00:45:33 is significantly less than it was during the Biden administration, about half of what it was on average.

00:45:38 Wage growth is about double.

00:45:40 Wage growth was 2.5 under Biden.

00:45:42 It's four.

00:45:43 Given the Working Families Tax Cut Act, every family has $3,500 more in their pocket.

00:45:48 The job numbers are strong.

00:45:51 So the economy is getting better, and there's a lot more on the horizon that's going to make it better.

00:45:57 So that is true.

00:45:58 The other thing that's true is that people are still feeling pinched and struggling, particularly in three areas,

00:46:05 energy prices, housing prices, and health care costs.

00:46:10 All three of those continue to grow, and that's putting a lot of pressure on folks.

00:46:14 So we need to continue to do the things that President Trump has laid out.

00:46:17 For example, the most favored nation provision on pharmaceuticals.

00:46:24 Pharmaceuticals are 20 percent of health care costs, particularly have a huge impact on elders.

00:46:30 The housing bill that came out of the Senate and the House, we're trying to find a common bill that we can send the president's desk.

00:46:36 Housing prices in Pennsylvania up 11 percent last year.

00:46:40 So that's a pinch. And energy prices, and particularly the gas prices as a result of the conflict in Iran.

00:46:49 The way to address that in the medium and long term is permitting reform and all the things that get more energy into our system.

00:46:56 Our energy dominance is incredible, but energy demand is growing.

00:47:00 So as we build out this new energy, we have to build out more for consumers to take down prices,

00:47:07 even though we're also supporting data centers and other things.

00:47:10 So we've got a lot of work to do, but the American people should feel confident that this economy is getting better,

00:47:16 and they need to acknowledge that, even as we also acknowledge there's more work to do.

00:47:21 Super important question for you before we close, Senator.

00:47:23 We can make this one quick. 1.00

00:47:26 But Clay has this crazy idea that Kamala is going to be the Democrat nominee in 28.

00:47:31 And I still think it's going to be Gavin Newsom.

00:47:33 Can you just tell him that I'm right?

00:47:37 Listen, I mean, my two favorite guys, here's what I will say.

00:47:41 Here's what I will say.

00:47:42 I campaigned alongside, I mean, not with her, but obviously she was in Pennsylvania the whole time.

00:47:48 And she could not connect to the people of Pennsylvania.

00:47:53 And I believe part of the reason Trump won and I won in Pennsylvania was Kamala Harris and Bob Casey could not say the word fracking.

00:48:02 It could not come out of their mouth.

00:48:03 They could not acknowledge this energy revolution, what was required. 0.99

00:48:06 So she's going to have to get she's going to have to get very much a Ph.D. in what the issues are for working people before she's going to be able to win nationwide and certainly win in Pennsylvania.

00:48:18 I can't speak for Gavin Newsom.

00:48:19 All I know is when I listen to him on these podcasts and he talks about that tough upbringing he had

00:48:25 and how he went to the school of hard knocks, I mean, it's hard for me to imagine that that's a guy

00:48:30 that's going to connect with people on the fracking rig in Pennsylvania, too.

00:48:33 So I give them both a thumbs down.

00:48:35 But, you know, what do I know?

00:48:37 Good stuff, as always, Senator.

00:48:39 Look forward to seeing you again.

00:48:40 And thanks for the time.

00:48:42 All right.

00:48:43 Thanks, guys.

00:48:44 Have a good day.

00:48:45 Thank you.

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00:50:58 Hour number three, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.

00:51:02 President Trump in Beijing.

00:51:04 We have talked about it quite a lot.

00:51:06 It is right now around 2 in the morning, Friday morning, in Beijing.

00:51:11 They are 12 hours ahead of us.

00:51:13 The first day seems to have been going and have gone very well.

00:51:19 A lot of conversation.

00:51:20 We discussed it in the first hour of the program.

00:51:23 I'm sure we will discuss it some with Senator Dave McCormick of Pennsylvania, who will join us at the bottom of the hour.

00:51:30 His wife, Dina Powell McCormick, is in Beijing right now with President Trump as one of those executives that traveled with the president on the China state visit.

00:51:41 We will see if Senator McCormick has gotten any feedback from his wife.

00:51:46 buck one thing that uh i'm sure is going on is you've been to china before what did you do about

00:51:51 phones when you were in china because i i if i were elon musk or i was dina power mccormick or

00:51:58 the tim uh cook the ceo of apple right now uh yensen wong all the nvidia ceo i imagine they

00:52:06 had to get special phones didn't they wouldn't you want a special phone when you went into china

00:52:10 i brought nothing electronic with me when i went to china at all uh at all uh and i was advised not

00:52:18 to and i knew about this from my previous life what the capabilities of the chinese surveillance

00:52:24 state are and uh when i was there i rented a smartphone which of course could not use it

00:52:31 could not go on google or facebook or these other sites uh but i rented a smartphone and knew that

00:52:39 everything that i did was under full surveillance the whole time so that's the way that you have

00:52:44 to operate when you're in well with and you leave it behind but you don't bring anything

00:52:48 you don't buy anything electronic heavens no and bring it back with you either you leave that

00:52:52 smartphone there and you hope that they haven't been able to get into your passwords and stuff

00:52:56 when you've accessed things overseas so you got to be very very careful because they will so you

00:53:01 would you would probably just advise basically those ceos to just not take communication devices

00:53:07 while they're over there, and almost just because of the piracy that goes on,

00:53:13 the state espionage, the stealing of assets.

00:53:17 I would probably just say don't even worry about trying to have a phone 0.63

00:53:21 while you're in China, or I would imagine the United States is creating 0.70

00:53:25 some form of a skiff, right, that they are able to communicate from

00:53:30 while the president is over there.

00:53:32 We have secure diplomatic and intelligence channels.

00:53:35 uh obviously you know the the embassy is going to be able to communicate back to the to our

00:53:41 country without everything at least we would hope everything being read uh and intercepted but in

00:53:47 terms of yeah being over there as a civilian you have to just assume that whatever you're doing

00:53:53 is being collected and at least scanned by you know ai etc if not actively monitored by a person

00:54:01 who works for the vast Chinese Ministry of Security.

00:54:06 So, yeah.

00:54:07 So we will talk with Dave McCormick about that trip and more,

00:54:10 but I did want to not avoid or not ignore the fact that Democrats are increasingly getting crazier.

00:54:19 I believe, and Buck thinks I'm crazy for this,

00:54:23 that Kamala Harris is going to end up being the nominee in 2028 for the Democrat Party.

00:54:28 this would make up for you believing that Michelle Obama 0.85

00:54:31 was going to be parachuted in at the last

00:54:33 second to take over the last election

00:54:35 so I'll give you this way

00:54:37 this way so I'm trying to 1.00

00:54:39 beat you before you make the Buck Island

00:54:41 comments here this way you can make up for

00:54:43 that one Clay because this is a long distance

00:54:45 call you are making that to

00:54:47 me seems

00:54:48 I just cannot fathom

00:54:51 that the Democrats would do

00:54:53 that but then again they

00:54:55 did it the last time so how crazy 1.00

00:54:57 can it really be so she is now doing interviews we all know how dangerous kamala interviews can be

00:55:04 and i want you to listen to what she said she said this is a conversation that we just need

00:55:11 to brainstorm i think is the phrase she uses but she talks about expanding the supreme court

00:55:17 adding puerto rico and washington dc estates and potentially doing away with the electoral college 0.86

00:55:25 all in the goal of dealing with, quote, red states and their radicalism.

00:55:32 Listen to what Kamala said here. 0.74

00:55:34 This is a moment where there are no bad ideas.

00:55:37 No bad idea brainstorm is what I'd like to call it.

00:55:41 And in that no bad ideas brainstorm, we talk about what we need to do

00:55:47 and think about doing around the Electoral College.

00:55:50 We talk about the idea of Supreme Court reform, which includes expanding the Supreme Court.

00:55:58 We invite a conversation about multi-members districts, that there are rules in place to

00:56:03 actually penalize people for lying to a Senate Judiciary Committee, that we agree that it is

00:56:11 right to have ethics rules for Supreme Court justices. And let's put those in place. Let's

00:56:18 talk about statehood for puerto rico and dc these are the things i think that we've got to do we've

00:56:24 got to neutralize these red states from cheating including blue states expanding their maps

00:56:32 what what is this with kamala uh leading into the how do we put this more the urban vernacular i

00:56:41 guess you would say you know she's she's talking a little more street perhaps how do you how do we

00:56:47 say this what what is the what is this that she where we can all hear it what is it that she is 1.00

00:56:52 doing here she knows that black women are her base and she knows if black women do not leave her 0.99

00:56:59 she's going to be the nominee and so i think she's look she is going to identity politics this

00:57:06 and gender politics this the likes of which we may never have seen before now i like to believe

00:57:13 that she is unelectable but buck she was within 240 000 votes of beating trump i know 1.00

00:57:20 pennsylvania michigan wisconsin thankfully narrowly went for trump but she would have won a 270 to 268

00:57:28 electoral college victory even if she lost as she did the popular vote to trump so look listen to

00:57:36 some of the things she said first of all she said we've got to neutralize red states from cheating

00:57:41 and she wants to expand blue states,

00:57:44 which I assume she means expand the congressional districts there.

00:57:50 She talked about multi-member congressional districts,

00:57:53 which is actually kind of a radical idea

00:57:56 that I haven't even heard talked about very much, Buck.

00:57:59 That would mean expanding the House of Representatives, right?

00:58:03 We have right now, every year,

00:58:06 the districts are growing for the House of Representatives

00:58:09 as long as the United States population is growing.

00:58:12 And we have 435 members in the House, 218 as the majority.

00:58:20 And so she's talking about expanding multi-district.

00:58:23 Well, that's big city. 1.00

00:58:25 She wants more big city congressmen and women. 1.00

00:58:28 She also randomly is saying we need to make it a crime 1.00

00:58:31 when you lie to the Senate Judiciary Committee. 0.50

00:58:33 That is a crime.

00:58:34 It's called perjury.

00:58:35 like when you raise your hand and swear to tell the whole truth that is a courtroom proceeding

00:58:42 the equivalent of it when you're testifying to congress wasn't she california attorney general

00:58:48 am i forgetting not only was she california attorney general buck she sat on the senate 0.92

00:58:52 judiciary committee which makes this one of the dumbest takes that i have ever heard she's calling 0.88

00:58:58 for a criminalization of a crime that has already been criminalized and that uh people have been 0.93

00:59:04 prosecuted for violating now perjury as we have talked about on this program before is a very hard

00:59:10 charge to prove because you have to prove knowledge intent uh perjury is just a high standard

00:59:16 um and so it is very difficult oftentimes to get a perjury conviction but look i mean let's just

00:59:24 focus on this puerto rico and washington dc that would be four in theory four new democrat seats

00:59:31 if we know buck that democrats will do away with the filibuster what she is trying to do is say we 1.00

00:59:38 need to get to 50 plus the president which would get a tie break and then we can add those two 1.00

00:59:44 states that will get us to 54 and democrats are then gambling that if they get four extra senate

00:59:50 seats that they would be able to hold control of the senate uh for many years to come particularly

00:59:58 Literally, if we abolish the Electoral College, I guess she would go straight popular vote at that point, which, of course, is interesting and ironic and a little bit funny because she lost the national popular vote to Trump.

01:00:09 So she would have lost whether the Electoral College existed or not.

01:00:14 Obviously, money would be spent very differently if the Electoral College were abolished and the winner-take-all system would be different.

01:00:22 my point on all this is this is a radical i understand she's probably going to say the

01:00:28 cover is well i'm just brainstorming ideas i'm not saying i'm going to endorse him

01:00:32 but expanding the supreme court expanding the senate uh neutralizing red states from cheating

01:00:39 whatever that means expanding potentially the house of representatives if democrats get back

01:00:45 into power all of the time that you guys out there listening to me uh and buck have spent

01:00:51 fighting with each other is going to be so much wasted energy because you're fighting over subtle

01:00:58 differences of political perspective and democrats will just drop a political neutron bomb on you

01:01:05 and you've been in knife fights and instead you're going to have nuke weapons dropped on you

01:01:10 and and it's it's also an answer to anyone who has the question out there still have the democrats

01:01:17 moderated have they pivoted have they shifted in response to trump's 2024 win absolutely not

01:01:25 so you're wondering hey have they have they learned their lesson um the lesson they've learned

01:01:31 is as soon as they're in power they are going to unleash the fury on us as much as they possibly

01:01:38 can get as crazy as they can um everything that we can point to and say we've been they've been

01:01:45 proven wrong they will go back and try to do those wrong things again whether it's the border or

01:01:50 crime or spending or anything they will make a mess of all these things again which is why

01:01:56 it's so important that the republicans maintain power and that trump stays on message and keeps

01:02:02 the focus here with the agenda going forward to get as much done as possible so that whoever the

01:02:07 republican nominee is can run with a powerful party record uh and record of trump achievements

01:02:14 behind him or her uh probably going to be him but nonetheless that's where i see all of this

01:02:20 and kamala harris oh she was she was speaking by the way clay i didn't know this the team told me

01:02:25 this uh she was speaking to a quote win with black women virtual meeting so this is why her

01:02:35 your vernacular was noted but again i she as long as she knows this and if i were at kamala 1.00

01:02:42 harris's campaign manager uh which uh would be an awful job but if i were that person and i got paid 1.00

01:02:49 a billion dollars if kamala were the nominee i would say kamala this campaign is black women 1.00

01:02:57 directed black women as long as they stay in your corner you're going to be the nominee 0.83

01:03:02 there is nobody else that has a contingent of the democrat electorate this is why i'm saying 1.00

01:03:08 poly market cal she like these prediction markets where you can go and you can wager on who the

01:03:14 nominee is you can get kamala 10 to 1 she's only 10 chance right now the favorite is gavin newsom

01:03:21 what's gavin newsom's base that's never leaving him i don't think it exists could he be more

01:03:27 appealing what are you talking about wine moms who are on marriage number three who are thinking

01:03:34 wow that guy is handsome see the wind blowing through his hair what a silver fox look at how

01:03:39 that shirt is buttoned i will say our friend alexi lawless and gavin newsome they do more

01:03:48 alexi law is going to be the head uh fox commentator for the world cup we were hanging

01:03:52 out this weekend this week in dc alexi and gavin they have more unbuttoned dress shirts than

01:03:59 anybody i've ever seen like you can basically see their belly buttons like you walk in and you're

01:04:04 like alexi needs to add like eight chains i'm surprised gavin newsom hasn't gone with the uh

01:04:09 the long chain to uh to further expose the navel for the uh unbuttoned shirt

01:04:13 making jokes about all this i really don't think gavin newsom has a base i think a lot of black 1.00

01:04:20 women are never leaving kamala and buck i think there's a lot of white women like that crazy woman 1.00

01:04:25 who was fine with uh getting shoved down the stairs because she didn't want a black guy to 1.00

01:04:29 get incarcerated she's gonna like kamala too because it allows her to tell her friends

01:04:34 i'm gonna support kamala i think the only if if kamala is able to get around the newsom

01:04:41 speed bump then i think that her chances get very real very quickly i mean it's really between those

01:04:49 too in the state of california and because think about the donors early on i mean they're going to

01:04:55 be fighting over every they're fighting over all the same political real estate right away yes same

01:05:01 donors they're both from california they're both going to be trying to use the networks that they 1.00

01:05:06 have there so we we shall see i just buck again people can tell me i'm crazy on this black women 0.70

01:05:13 aren't leaving her and all that money matters for other attributes but if you get into you only need

01:05:19 to win like 30 of the electorate to win most of these primaries i'm just gavin's not i'm i still

01:05:25 think gavin's going to be the nominee and he's not drinking chardonnay with clay anymore clay is a

01:05:29 fair weather gavin friend that's that much we have established no i think that's fair that is

01:05:33 fair no more trips to the vineyard for clay that's for sure all right a week from today we'll be

01:05:38 getting ready for memorial day weekend do you know when the first national observance of a

01:05:42 Memorial Day took place and what it was called?

01:05:44 Clay will probably know because he's a Civil War nerd.

01:05:47 Memorial Day started in 1868 and was originally called Decoration Day.

01:05:51 It was a day set aside to decorate the grave sites of Union soldiers

01:05:54 who died in the Civil War, more than 600,000.

01:05:56 Decoration Day was officially changed to Memorial Day

01:05:59 and established as a federal holiday by Congress in 1971.

01:06:03 For a lot of people, it marks the kickoff to summer.

01:06:05 But next week, when someone wishes you a happy Memorial Day weekend,

01:06:08 take a moment to honor the legacy our men and women in uniform left behind remember their

01:06:14 courage and pause to recognize the responsibility that comes with the freedom that they secured for

01:06:19 all of us with their sacrifice sure uh enjoy the time off if you're not working but also remember

01:06:25 to appreciate the rights we enjoy and how they came to be in this country because of that ultimate

01:06:30 sacrifice that others made before us our friends at americans for prosperity take this all to heart

01:06:37 We know you do, too, especially the military families in this audience.

01:06:40 What about your neighbors and friends?

01:06:42 Let's make sure they do as well.

01:06:43 Americans for Prosperity has something to help with that.

01:06:46 If you believe we all share a responsibility to preserve what makes this country strong,

01:06:51 go to AFPBuck.com for your free guide on how you and your community can get involved.

01:06:58 That website, again, is AFPBuck.com, paid for by Americans for Prosperity.

01:07:04 Level up your brain, mental mugging with clay and buck.

01:07:34 And stream it for free.

01:07:36 Have a great day.

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