Verdict with Ted Cruz - May 29, 2025


BONUS： Daily Review With Clay and Buck - May 29 2025


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In this episode of the show, Buck and Clay discuss the latest in the FBI investigation into the firings of FBI Director James Comey and Director Robert Mueller. They also talk about the latest on Elon Musk's departure from the government and the impact it could have on the space program.

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:04.220 Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast.
00:00:09.180 Welcome, everybody, to the Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
00:00:14.540 Some quick housekeeping.
00:00:16.620 Buck is back, as in I'm normal today.
00:00:19.980 Yesterday was a bit of a challenge.
00:00:21.340 I appreciate all of you rolling with me.
00:00:23.220 Had to hydrate in the breaks, and it was a little touch and go, but I'm back.
00:00:26.080 I'm healthy, ready to rock.
00:00:28.320 And Clay is having a great time with his family.
00:00:31.720 He's on vacation.
00:00:32.560 I think he's in Disney World or one of those places.
00:00:35.360 Not sure where he is today, but we're all hoping he's having a great time with the fam.
00:00:39.920 He'll be back with us, as we know, a week from tomorrow.
00:00:42.700 So it's just going to be me informing you, entertaining you, rolling with you here for a week.
00:00:49.640 So looking forward to getting to chat with you all.
00:00:52.320 The calls, the talkbacks, we love them both.
00:00:54.940 Light us up on those lines and send those talkbacks.
00:00:58.460 Let's lay out where we're going today on the show real quick so you know.
00:01:02.900 Some stuff coming out on the FBI, and there's a little bit of pushback, I think, from some people on the right.
00:01:08.900 Are Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino moving fast enough?
00:01:13.280 Are they doing the things?
00:01:14.060 I was on Fox earlier this morning with Dana Perino, who's always so lovely, like such a nice person, and very good broadcaster.
00:01:23.180 And we were talking about this issue.
00:01:25.200 I want to address it a bit because I think that there's a little bit of expectations management that our side should have, not in terms of result.
00:01:33.200 No, no.
00:01:33.460 We all agree on the results.
00:01:34.800 But in terms of timing, we need to give the people the time that they need.
00:01:43.000 Speaking of which, Elon has said that his time as a special government employee has come to a conclusion.
00:01:53.460 He put this out on X, the platform that he owns, which now is actually a free speech platform.
00:01:58.620 As my scheduled time as a special government employee comes to an end, I would like to thank President Trump for the opportunity to reduce wasteful spending.
00:02:07.380 The Doge mission will only strengthen over time as it becomes a way of life throughout the government.
00:02:14.440 So Elon is going to go back to being the most important single CEO and business.
00:02:22.200 I don't like the term thought leader, right?
00:02:24.300 Because it's like, hmm, thought leader.
00:02:25.960 I mean, the guy is a thought leader, but I don't like to use that term.
00:02:29.800 But he's going to go back to doing the full Elon routine, which is going to be, I think, great for SpaceX, for Tesla, for X, for boring company, for all the things that he is involved in.
00:02:40.660 So this is where we get into a little bit, speaking of expectations management, of they've done what they could do.
00:02:50.280 He did not unilaterally, and this was known all along, he does not unilaterally have the authority, the power, Doge didn't have, to just say these cuts are going into effect.
00:03:03.760 Money that Congress has appropriated.
00:03:06.740 If Congress says this, you know, this program for fiscal year 2025 has $10 million or $10 billion, Doge couldn't just come along and say, yeah, they don't have $10 billion anymore.
00:03:21.880 But this is where rescissions come in.
00:03:26.100 This also goes to our conversations over the big, beautiful bill.
00:03:30.420 There's been a little bit of pushback here, including from some of the most pro-Trump voices you will find in the Senate and just in general who are saying, hey, Trump, I love you.
00:03:42.380 With all respect, you're doing great things.
00:03:45.580 We all get that.
00:03:46.380 This isn't like some never-Trumpy wine fest.
00:03:49.100 You're like, eh, but I don't like the way you said it.
00:03:51.460 No, that's for libs.
00:03:52.600 That's for fake Republicans.
00:03:54.820 This is just about, okay, it's halftime.
00:03:58.020 It's not even halftime, to be clear.
00:03:59.460 It's early.
00:04:00.460 It's a timeout in the first quarter of this administration.
00:04:06.160 And we're all huddled together, and some of us are saying, hey, Trump, thank you for being the quarterback.
00:04:11.360 But, you know, can you hit that guy on the button hook?
00:04:14.580 Clay would be proud, by the way.
00:04:15.760 I'm just going to say, look at that button hook.
00:04:17.820 But, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
00:04:20.900 That's the mentality, or rather that's the rationale behind some of the pushback on this from people like Senator Ron Johnson, people like Senator Rand Paul.
00:04:30.700 They're on board for the mission, but they want to shape this.
00:04:33.280 This is why it goes to the Senate.
00:04:34.720 I bring it up because, you know, yesterday I said we can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
00:04:39.960 And I think, I'm trying to, some of the administration said it later that day.
00:04:45.500 I'm trying to remember.
00:04:46.120 I don't want to misquote, but I heard somebody else say it.
00:04:48.520 I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right.
00:04:49.320 They listen to this show.
00:04:50.780 So I'm happy to help.
00:04:52.760 Happy to help.
00:04:53.540 And if that means I throw around a cliche that somebody else will have in their head later, great.
00:04:57.320 But we've talked about the process, and Stephen Miller, I read his post on the big, beautiful bill, still in process.
00:05:08.580 And there are big things in this bill that will affect us, that will affect your family budget, that will affect the business that you own or that you work for in your town.
00:05:17.880 I mean, there's, this is real stuff, right?
00:05:19.980 This isn't sitting around arguing about the naming of the next post office in Topeka.
00:05:28.180 No offense, Topeka.
00:05:29.380 But this is about big economic issues, structural issues, and setting the economy on a footing that will allow it to get to the best possible places, right?
00:05:42.240 I mean, tremendous prosperity, which I'm very confident in.
00:05:47.400 I have not been gloom and doom about the Trump economy since he won that election.
00:05:50.900 For one moment, for one day, even when, oh, the Trump recession is here.
00:05:55.460 Oh, the market has dropped.
00:05:56.560 You can go back and listen to those shows where, like, I kept saying he knows what he's doing.
00:06:01.580 Everyone just who's freaking out needs to, as I believe they would say here in South Florida, tranquilo.
00:06:08.340 Everyone just needs to calm down.
00:06:10.480 It's fine.
00:06:11.360 Okay?
00:06:11.740 Nothing terrible has happened.
00:06:12.660 He knows what he's doing.
00:06:14.280 Part of the complaints about the big, beautiful bill, though, have been on where is, where are the cuts?
00:06:22.220 Where is Doge and the ethos of Doge being made real?
00:06:29.600 And this is where you have OMB director Russell Vaught, who was on the Kudlow show, saying that, yes, in fact, the administration is sending a rescissions package to Congress.
00:06:44.300 Let's hear it from the OMB director himself.
00:06:46.860 Play four.
00:06:47.240 I can.
00:06:47.980 We'll be sending that up on Monday or Tuesday, whenever the House is back in session.
00:06:52.000 They will get our first rescissions bill.
00:06:54.380 And, again, this has been proposed, and we've talked about it.
00:06:58.040 We want to make sure that Congress passes its first rescissions bill, including the Doge, and we will send more if they pass it.
00:07:05.800 And so this is the first one is foreign aid, USAID cuts, many of the waste and garbage that was funding not only wasteful but hurting our foreign policy, but also the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and NPR.
00:07:18.360 We'll be sending that up, and we'll be working with Congress.
00:07:20.900 And we've had good conversations to make sure that they knew what was coming.
00:07:24.940 They had some input as to changes that could be made to make it something that could pass the House, and we're excited for that to occur next week.
00:07:32.080 There you have it.
00:07:35.140 I said, hold on a second.
00:07:36.400 Where are the Doge cuts in the big, beautiful bill?
00:07:39.100 And Stephen Miller, who understands this process as well as anybody because he is, look, he is at the center of what's going on in this White House.
00:07:49.040 He is absolutely dialed in, and he explained it to everybody, and he said, look, this is how it has to happen within the system.
00:07:57.640 And let's be honest, even if you follow government and politics for a living, some of this stuff, unless you, I'll tell you this, some members of Congress don't even know this stuff that well.
00:08:06.800 Their staff members do, their staffers do, and they brief them on it, but they're like, wait, I got to do the who's the what's it here?
00:08:12.960 How does this work?
00:08:13.660 Like, Stephen Miller came out and said, here is what has to happen for the cuts to become real and final or to come to fruition, and now that process has gone to the next step.
00:08:28.980 And now you'll see, okay, does USAID, does the budget, does Congress do what it's supposed to do?
00:08:34.580 Does PBS get its government funding cut?
00:08:36.860 I have, I think, the most perfect argument about this of anybody, or anyone else is welcome to borrow it.
00:08:43.420 I like to make arguments that other people can borrow them.
00:08:45.340 That's fine.
00:08:46.260 I just want the truth to win.
00:08:47.900 But PBS and anybody else who is getting straight-up government funding as a media entity, they cannot claim simultaneously,
00:08:56.480 oh, we don't really need that funding.
00:08:58.780 It's only a small percentage of our budget, and comma, how dare they cut our budget?
00:09:04.080 What are we going to do?
00:09:05.100 This is tyranny.
00:09:06.860 You are not entitled to federal funds as a media entity.
00:09:11.760 This is insane.
00:09:13.600 You know?
00:09:15.060 Imagine, all of a sudden, and I would just say this, why is PBS getting money from the government?
00:09:21.400 Clay and Buckshot doesn't get any money from the government.
00:09:23.760 We're a capitalist enterprise, thanks to all of you who listen,
00:09:27.360 and thanks to all of you who make our sponsors so successful in the campaigns we have and the partnerships we have on this show.
00:09:35.200 It is thanks to you that this show exists.
00:09:37.680 There's no, I mean, it would be kind of nice.
00:09:41.760 I don't know.
00:09:42.520 You get a check for $10 million for the government?
00:09:44.760 You know, we'd give bonuses for the New York team or something out of that, right?
00:09:48.380 I mean, this is the kind of thing that you sit there and you say, how has this even been able to exist as long as it has?
00:09:57.440 And I want to get into this a little bit more on the Trump fight with Harvard, which I'll dive into in the bottom, which I think, I think this stuff is important.
00:10:06.600 And there's a new addition to this, too, about foreign students from China.
00:10:13.180 What's going on here?
00:10:15.440 You know, were we bringing the best and the brightest from Moscow to study at Caltech and MIT in, I don't know, nuclear engineering or something?
00:10:30.020 Were we doing that during the Cold War?
00:10:31.520 However, I'm not aware of it in any real numbers.
00:10:34.960 I mean, there was a lot of espionage going on, but I don't think we were welcoming, you know, tens of thousands of students from Moscow to come work at high levels of sensitive.
00:10:47.040 But we're doing that with China. 0.89
00:10:48.140 We are we have been doing and it's so dumb and so contra the national interest that when you say it out loud, it almost feels like, how is this how is this possible? 0.95
00:10:58.620 And then you can even take it a step further.
00:11:00.000 How many Americans are getting access to the research being done by, I don't know what the top Chinese universities are, but, you know, let's just say the equivalent of University of Beijing.
00:11:12.820 How many Americans are sitting in their classes learning about 5G, learning about artificial intelligence, learning about.
00:11:22.340 Next generation of of microchips and what they're mean, supercomputers, all that. 0.98
00:11:27.100 So we all know the answer, even if you don't follow the issue, you know, the answer, because you'd say, well, China's not that dumb. 0.97
00:11:33.500 But we are. 0.98
00:11:35.820 Trump comes along.
00:11:37.240 This is one of his superpowers. 0.96
00:11:39.200 The dumb things that we have as a country have been doing for such a long time that we just start to think that this is the way it has to be, because seems like it's always been that way. 0.97
00:11:51.540 Trump comes along and says, you know, that's a dumb thing and we should stop doing it. 0.87
00:11:55.780 Whether it's getting involved in foreign wars that we're not going to win and that aren't bringing any benefit to us or even the people in that country over the long term. 0.74
00:12:05.100 Or it's something as straightforward as why are we educating at the highest possible levels in sense of they want to study Shakespeare.
00:12:13.100 OK, I'm a little more open to it as long as there's no Americans who are losing that spot in that school.
00:12:17.300 Whole other conversation.
00:12:18.180 But the top electrical engineering, top microprocessor, top, you know, theoretical physics, astrophysics, we're educating our biggest adversaries, students.
00:12:31.580 And by the way, in numbers that would blow your mind.
00:12:36.700 I actually had a conversation randomly with the guy in the Princeton University electrical engineering labs a long time ago.
00:12:44.560 And he said that if they wanted to, this was a long time ago, was back when I was just out of school.
00:12:49.940 And he said if they wanted to, they could take three classes or, you know, three times as many students as they have from just China with perfect, perfect scores for engineering.
00:13:00.360 I mean, perfect math scores, everything.
00:13:01.580 He says, you know, they don't take that many.
00:13:04.460 It's not 100 percent, but they could because they all want to come and they take a lot of them.
00:13:08.360 And that's true of a lot of these schools.
00:13:10.540 That needs to stop because they operate in America and they have to start seeing themselves as part of this country.
00:13:18.140 They are not islands unto themselves.
00:13:20.980 They do not have global tenure.
00:13:22.820 So, if anything, what you're seeing right now is Trump putting into action that very important but very straightforward theory, the dumb things that prior administrations have done that there can be no intelligent defense of, whether it is funding PBS.
00:13:42.820 Yes, I know they do it because it's left-wing propaganda, but there's no real defense of this, not a serious defense, not an intellectually consistent one, or spending too much money, fraudulent stuff, sending money to people overseas, the stuff that Doge has found.
00:13:57.120 Dumb, right, we can all agree, or training the foreign adversaries' brightest minds in the most sensitive technologies when the wars and the economies of the future will be determined by technological prowess. 0.99
00:14:12.500 Very dumb. 0.99
00:14:13.260 And it is, as I said, Trump's superpower among several, but one of his superpowers is to come along and say, I no longer wish this country to do the things that we all know are dumb, but have just kept doing with no good reason, other than maybe politics or corruption. 0.99
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00:16:33.600 You know, one thing that I want you all to keep in mind is the Trump administration learned, I think, a very important lesson from the first at-bat that Trump had.
00:16:47.980 I think the Trump administration learned something really critical, and that is keep pushing and keep moving on all fronts.
00:16:56.280 The first time around, when they did these universal injunctions, and it was a different team, and they've got the seasoned crew in place now.
00:17:06.540 These people all know this game.
00:17:07.980 They don't have people that are like, hey, I've never done politics before, and, you know, I kind of like Trump.
00:17:12.180 And they're like, oh, you can be, you know, White House communications director.
00:17:14.780 It's a different world.
00:17:15.720 So they have brought in people who understand that if you allow the process to get bogged down, and if you allow them to weaponize the process, essentially, to thwart the agenda, you're dead in the water.
00:17:31.520 So you have to just keep going.
00:17:33.180 So that's why, even though this is what I do for a living and I'm every day reading, researching, reading, researching, it's tough to keep up on, oh, wait, what's the latest universal injunction?
00:17:42.320 And what is this judge saying about Trump or that judge saying about Trump?
00:17:46.720 Because they're not taking the approach that I think was really just more of the Republican way.
00:17:52.780 Oh, we're going to do this thing.
00:17:54.260 Oh, the judge is going to fight us on this?
00:17:56.320 Hmm, okay.
00:17:57.480 Well, we don't want to seem like we're pushing too hard on stuff.
00:17:59.660 So let's see how this goes.
00:18:01.680 You know, is it going to go to the appeals court?
00:18:03.320 Okay, let's wait.
00:18:04.200 Is the Supreme Court going to hear it?
00:18:05.960 You know, and next thing you know, a year has passed.
00:18:08.440 And on this issue, you've allowed them to run out the clock.
00:18:14.100 And that's their whole game.
00:18:15.980 So much of what they did, and this was one of my great frustrations with the Russia collusion lie.
00:18:22.060 People always say, oh, it wasn't successful.
00:18:24.380 And I have to correct them.
00:18:25.420 It wasn't totally successful.
00:18:28.300 In the end, I think you can argue it was defeated and shown to be a fraud.
00:18:32.260 But there were costs.
00:18:33.480 You know, we took casualties, so to speak, along the way in the Trump movement because they were able to make people show up for depositions and testify under oath and get lawyers and the media.
00:18:45.860 And, you know, the whole thing was just kicking mud up in the air, being, ha, ha, you can't do what you were elected to do because we're saying no.
00:18:54.960 We're saying, I don't hear you.
00:18:56.860 La, la, la, la.
00:18:57.660 I don't hear you.
00:18:58.300 I'm a Democrat. 0.57
00:18:59.040 You know, whatever childish nonsense they had to do, they did.
00:19:02.160 Well, this time around, the Trump team is going, okay, let's do this.
00:19:05.760 Oh, universal injunction?
00:19:06.780 Cool.
00:19:07.280 Day two, next day, let's do this.
00:19:09.760 Oh, universal injunction?
00:19:10.840 Guess what?
00:19:11.200 We got something else.
00:19:12.500 And this is the only way available within the system we have to continue to play offense.
00:19:21.280 So now what this means is that the left and the Democrats are going to be saying, look, oh, he's a dictator and he's a tyrant.
00:19:27.640 Look at all these things he's doing because there's a lot going on.
00:19:30.180 But we want there to be a lot going on.
00:19:32.160 We want this movement to be happening on all these different fronts and these processes are playing out.
00:19:40.060 So once again, we all want the same result on this stuff.
00:19:44.800 The people that are trying to do this in this White House, they are pursuing this.
00:19:49.880 I've never seen anything like this before.
00:19:52.140 Most of my life in conservative media has been telling the truth about Democrats when their media outlets have altogether much bigger ecosystem and have us outgunned, so to speak.
00:20:04.840 I know, you know, the biggest talk radio shows are conservative.
00:20:08.060 And yes, Fox is the biggest cable channel.
00:20:09.880 But when you add all those and remember, now we're like the unsinkable aircraft carriers or free speech.
00:20:16.840 And the Democrat media is like a little dingy, you know, beep, beep.
00:20:21.700 You know, I don't think they have horns, but you know what I'm saying?
00:20:24.340 Maybe boats have horns, right?
00:20:26.600 I'm not a boat guy.
00:20:27.380 But, you know, they're not what they used to be, right?
00:20:30.360 They're ships that they look like the hole is dipping low, close to the water, and, you know, they're sputtering a little bit.
00:20:40.440 It's not working the way it used to.
00:20:41.620 But one of the big things that I think we had to do on the conservative side of the media was just to deal with the constant incoming.
00:20:50.960 And so we were playing a lot of defense, playing a lot of defense in the Trump term, first Trump term, playing a lot of it with all the, like I said, Russia collusion stuff, right?
00:21:00.700 They tried to make us play a lot of defense on the Biden.
00:21:06.740 Now, that didn't work as well as they had hoped.
00:21:09.720 But, you know, what we see here with Trump is action.
00:21:14.720 Action is its own strategy.
00:21:18.980 Just keep going.
00:21:20.760 Just, you know, motion creates emotion.
00:21:23.820 Like, make things happen.
00:21:26.120 And that's why I think the stuff you see with the colleges, I know they say you can't do this.
00:21:30.740 They say you can't do that.
00:21:31.660 They say you can't deport.
00:21:32.740 Okay, Trump's team is going to fight that out in court.
00:21:35.400 But while that's happening, in every area where the agenda can be pursued by the executive branch, they continue to go.
00:21:42.300 And this is excellent.
00:21:43.360 Okay, now let's talk what's going on here with Harvard.
00:21:47.020 You have this injunction now from an Obama judge.
00:21:50.700 Obama, I'm going to be honest with you.
00:21:52.280 But one of the smartest things, one of the most damaging things about Obama's eight years in office, and I think he did horrific long-term damage to the country in a whole range of ways.
00:22:03.520 I think the Obama presidency was a disaster for America that has continued to do harm well beyond his eight years.
00:22:11.940 Well, I mean, on so many issues, I can't get them all now.
00:22:17.020 Also, I'll address Michelle Obama.
00:22:19.220 Now that people are seeing what she actually thinks, I don't think we're going to hear anyone talking about how she should be a presidential candidate anymore. 0.81
00:22:26.600 I'll put it that way.
00:22:28.260 Michelle Obama, not a grateful person and not a wise person and doesn't seem like a very nice person either.
00:22:34.980 It's not a surprise to some of you, but when she's on these podcasts, she's not doing herself any favors with a broader electorate, that's for sure.
00:22:44.400 I mean, I'm sure there are super fans of Michelle Obama who think everything that she says is brilliant.
00:22:48.580 It's not, and I think that people feel more comfortable just speaking the truth about that now than ever before.
00:22:55.340 But Obama did a lot of damage to the country, and Trump is trying to undo that damage.
00:23:01.380 But one of the most lasting points of damage in all of this has been the seeding of the federal judiciary with activists, people who just do not care.
00:23:14.120 You know, call it the Sotomayors, because she is really the pinnacle example of this.
00:23:20.980 She just knows she's supposed to deliver for her team, team Democrat, team left wing, team race and identity politics, you know, team wise Latina. 1.00
00:23:32.440 Like she, she knows that she is supposed to make it happen for them in whatever.
00:23:39.800 Now, she's only one vote of nine, but that's every, every, she never, there's never a moment where you go, wow.
00:23:45.680 Sotomayor is really angering her own side with that.
00:23:49.100 How is that possible?
00:23:49.800 She, she never lets the home team down.
00:23:53.160 The progressive leftist, communist Democrat is never frustrated with Sotomayor.
00:24:01.000 Now, she, we're aware of this because of her role in the Supreme Court. 0.56
00:24:05.800 There are hundreds of Sotomayors in the federal judiciary, hundreds of them, because of what Obama and Biden were able to, in Biden's case, the people around him, as we know, but what they were able to accomplish.
00:24:17.980 So this is a major challenge for the administration.
00:24:20.280 On the issue of foreign students in this country, I have objections to this on many levels. 0.99
00:24:31.860 Not all foreign students, please don't tell me, oh, but you know, I, you know, my family, we were so close.
00:24:37.940 You know, we had a foreign exchange student from Singapore and he was lovelier.
00:24:41.080 We had somebody visiting our, you know, it was in class at Brigham Young with my son and he was from, you know, wherever.
00:24:48.700 And I like, no, okay, it's not that we don't want any foreigners here, that, that, that would be too much. 1.00
00:24:54.380 But we also don't want nothing but foreigners in the top echelon of critical industries, critical academic disciplines for our economy and our national defense. 1.00
00:25:06.480 We also don't want foreigners, non-Americans of any kind, to be here in numbers where they get to box out, essentially, Americans from access to the schools that, as we now all know, are getting billions of dollars of taxpayer money. 1.00
00:25:29.740 And they really want that money.
00:25:31.700 So they're taking taxpayer dollars, but they're not prioritizing Americans, you know?
00:25:38.660 You know, you start to do this, what percent of Harvard students are foreign?
00:25:42.280 You start to look at these numbers and you say to yourself, 30% of Harvard are foreigners?
00:25:48.180 Do you know that?
00:25:49.560 30, it's like 27, 28%.
00:25:52.280 I mean, we'll just say 30% because it's basically a third, okay?
00:25:56.600 A third of Harvard are foreign.
00:25:58.520 So this is our most elite university, blah, blah, all that stuff.
00:26:03.180 I mean, Stanford and Yale people, send your, plays on vacation, send angry emails to him.
00:26:09.980 We're supposed to sit here and say that that's okay?
00:26:13.420 That's insane.
00:26:15.120 That's completely preposterous.
00:26:18.280 The only reason that Harvard can have all these people sitting around with tenure, including, oh, this is beautiful,
00:26:24.700 including a professor of honesty, I kid you not, who was just fired from her tenure job at Harvard Business School for dishonesty. 0.98
00:26:38.160 It's real.
00:26:39.000 You can look it up.
00:26:39.740 I'm not making it up.
00:26:40.680 And it just happened.
00:26:41.840 Her expertise is whether people are honest or not.
00:26:44.240 And they fired her for being dishonest about her expertise and about the data.
00:26:48.680 They say one of the highest paid professors at Harvard Business School, I might add.
00:26:53.060 I mean, these are the kind of people that I remember what this was like because I was in this rat race for a while.
00:26:57.400 Remember, until Glenn Beck came along and saved me, I was on my way to Columbia Business School.
00:27:03.220 And I don't mean I was thinking about it.
00:27:05.760 I was in.
00:27:06.740 I was going. 1.00
00:27:07.700 And Glenn was like, fuck, come work with me. 1.00
00:27:11.440 You know, did his Glenn thing. 1.00
00:27:12.500 I was like, yes, sir.
00:27:13.720 That is a great idea.
00:27:14.680 Let's do that thing.
00:27:16.420 The Blaze early days.
00:27:18.200 Got to work with Pete Hegseth and Will Kane.
00:27:20.680 And, I mean, I can't even name everybody.
00:27:23.360 I mean, early days, it was just like everybody that you see on Fox now practically came through the Blaze either as, you know,
00:27:30.240 somebody who was a guest or whatever.
00:27:32.860 So, those are fun days.
00:27:34.920 Those are fun days.
00:27:35.540 I got a lot of nostalgia about it.
00:27:36.600 My point is merely I understand this world where people are going through all this stuff.
00:27:43.000 They'll do anything to shove people out of the way to get into these places so they can study under a professor of honesty who's actually really dishonest.
00:27:50.940 I mean, at Harvard.
00:27:52.860 What has happened to these places?
00:27:55.200 Do I think that Harvard, I mean, you look at some of these schools, you know,
00:27:58.780 they used to have, like, an ancient Greek and Latin requirement, requirement at some of these universities.
00:28:06.320 You look this up.
00:28:07.660 I mean, the core curriculum, you actually had to be smart to go to these places and pass these classes,
00:28:13.420 whether it's, you know, talking about back in, I don't know, the 50s.
00:28:16.980 I think the 60s ruined everything.
00:28:18.500 Sorry, boomers. 1.00
00:28:19.080 I think the 60s ruined, you know, because that's when you seeded the radicals in these schools.
00:28:23.200 But you go back earlier than that, and you had to actually be pretty smart at these places.
00:28:27.980 You had to know my college, Amherst, when I went there, and it's only gotten more competitive since then.
00:28:35.120 It's a small school.
00:28:36.100 Those of you in the Northeast know it.
00:28:37.280 The rest of the country doesn't know it.
00:28:38.500 But because it's kind of like an insider.
00:28:40.280 First of all, you can't pronounce the H.
00:28:41.660 It's not Amherst.
00:28:42.560 It's Amherst, just so you know.
00:28:44.200 And that's always the tell.
00:28:45.660 If somebody says Amherst, it's like, oh, sweetie.
00:28:48.420 Or what do you say in the South?
00:28:49.460 Bless your heart.
00:28:50.540 Oh, bless your heart.
00:28:52.940 The whole thing was they would take, I think they had a 15% admission rate.
00:28:57.600 So 100 people apply.
00:28:59.620 85 of them get sad letters home.
00:29:02.260 85 of 100 people get sad letters home, okay?
00:29:05.680 And I think now it's less than that.
00:29:08.040 Harvard's like 1% or 2% or something insane.
00:29:10.260 And there was remedial math and remedial English, basically, required for a big chunk of students
00:29:20.400 coming in.
00:29:21.660 I remember sitting here thinking, like, how elite can this place be when you have people
00:29:27.480 who can't math good and need help on writing and basic reading?
00:29:34.940 Like, how can this be an elite institution when this is where the left uses these places
00:29:43.340 as credential factories to do social engineering in the broader society?
00:29:46.560 And we all see it.
00:29:48.680 So I want to come back to this issue of the foreigners in schools, though, because this
00:29:52.700 is also a national security thing.
00:29:54.020 I'm passionate about this.
00:29:55.000 I don't think this is a small thing at all.
00:29:56.480 You sit there, you say, how is it that the Biden administration was putting out White
00:30:01.840 House, official White House communications about how 12-year-olds should be able to pick
00:30:06.680 their gender and get, like, castration drugs? 0.78
00:30:09.920 How could that have happened?
00:30:11.300 Look at college campuses.
00:30:12.860 It's where it all starts.
00:30:14.560 That's where the disease initially, the virus of left-wing insanity takes hold and replicates.
00:30:23.560 All right, we'll take some calls on this and dive deeper into it, because I think it's
00:30:27.960 super important.
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00:31:58.340 We're getting deep into this stuff with Harvard, which I think is pretty interesting.
00:32:02.120 But I wanted to switch gears here and think about how a lot of what we're seeing happening
00:32:08.000 right now, you know, it's one thing when you argue in politics and you can't have somebody
00:32:15.400 who I think ends the argument one way or the other.
00:32:18.120 You know, oh, would this tax rate be better for growth or would that tax rate be better?
00:32:21.900 Well, you've got to try one, and if you try one, you haven't done the other.
00:32:24.500 But sometimes you can actually just get an authoritative voice on something who proves
00:32:31.840 that one side is correct or at least more correct than the other.
00:32:36.120 And on this issue of Donald Trump being able to get hostages returned, get people back who
00:32:46.180 have been held by Hamas, there is, of course, this effort from the Democrats to be like, well,
00:32:52.080 that's not, it's not like Trump has just managed to do that.
00:32:55.440 Really?
00:32:57.100 Let's think this one through for a second.
00:32:59.680 I've told you, Clay's told you, we've discussed many times here on the show that there is a
00:33:06.060 clear preference among, you know what, actually, let me take a step back on this.
00:33:09.960 It's important.
00:33:12.120 They're trying to tell you that somehow Donald Trump, who just won with this huge mandate,
00:33:18.380 the guy who took a bullet in the ear and said, fight, fight, fight, the billionaire, global
00:33:23.960 brand building, impresario, an entrepreneur, and political phenomenon, who is scared of
00:33:30.740 no one and is doing this because at this, I mean, I thought it was clear in the first term
00:33:34.680 to be clear with all of you, and I know you agree, but he's doing this because he loves
00:33:38.800 the country and he thinks that he's the best man for this moment.
00:33:41.460 And, okay, is it reasonable to think that the enemies of the United States don't want
00:33:50.040 that guy in charge?
00:33:51.240 You know who they want in charge?
00:33:52.680 The guy with dementia who's not really in charge.
00:33:56.940 What is the counter argument to that?
00:34:00.000 What are they going to say now?
00:34:00.820 Oh, yeah, you know who really makes Putin shaking his, you know, shaking his little booties?
00:34:06.380 Ron Klain, he can't, man, once Ron Klain gets Putin on the phone, it's lights out, it's game
00:34:13.880 over.
00:34:14.980 Well, as we know, the Democrats have had to admit that this is something that was happening.
00:34:22.340 There's no arguing about this anymore, and it was because they were exposed, right?
00:34:26.100 Never.
00:34:26.680 They got caught.
00:34:28.080 They didn't turn themselves in.
00:34:29.880 The Democrats got caught on the cover-up of Biden's dementia, the debate.
00:34:34.240 They got caught.
00:34:36.300 They were trying to pull off the caper, and they almost did.
00:34:40.000 They almost did.
00:34:41.380 So there's no, you know, there's like no belief that anybody should have that they're coming
00:34:48.240 clean or they have some honesty here or something like that.
00:34:52.540 So with that, I go back to is Trump, was Trump better positioned to bring back Americans and
00:35:03.920 Israelis, bring back hostages taken by Hamas than his predecessor? 0.74
00:35:08.300 Of course, we've made the argument that the answer is yes.
00:35:11.340 But here you can actually have one of the hostages tell you himself that it's not just a theory.
00:35:22.720 It's not just I make the case to you.
00:35:24.780 The reality of Hamas, because he heard them talking about it, was, uh-oh, they really don't
00:35:33.840 want this Trump guy to be in charge.
00:35:36.260 Oh, we better be nice to the hostages now.
00:35:38.340 They might actually end up going home because we might get called out and the pressure might
00:35:42.800 get turned up.
00:35:43.780 And here is, this is a freed hostage, Omer Shem Tov, who was talking to CNN last night
00:35:51.840 and explaining this part of the story.
00:35:53.920 I want you to hear it.
00:35:54.820 It's about a minute long.
00:35:56.140 Play clip one.
00:35:56.920 Yes, it's him.
00:35:57.700 He got me out.
00:35:58.880 He got the hostages out.
00:36:01.540 You talked politics with them?
00:36:03.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:04.140 They wanted Kamala to be elected.
00:36:07.240 But as soon as Donald Trump was elected, they understood that he wants to bring the hostages
00:36:16.520 back home.
00:36:17.640 Yeah.
00:36:18.260 So immediately the way they treated me changed.
00:36:21.640 So if it's the amount of food, I could say this, that when Trump came into, became president,
00:36:30.720 yeah, the way they treated us changed.
00:36:33.440 For me, personally, this is what I felt.
00:36:35.780 I think because they anticipated that a deal would come soon.
00:36:38.460 Yeah.
00:36:39.000 And that's when they started giving you more food.
00:36:40.900 Exactly.
00:36:41.580 More food, treated me better, you know, stopped cursing me, stopped spitting on me.
00:36:46.060 Well, Trump becomes president, they stopped cursing me, they stopped spitting at me, they
00:36:52.400 stopped mistreating me.
00:36:54.720 Think about what kind of powerful testimony this is about the reality of whether or not
00:37:01.400 the American people on a whole range of fronts, but certainly as it pertains to our national
00:37:06.360 security interests and our presence on the world stage.
00:37:09.600 What could make this more clear than exactly what this now freed hostage was saying, which
00:37:16.140 is the bad, and Hamas are clearly the bad guys, and I commend the Israelis for taking as many 1.00
00:37:26.000 Hamas fighters out as they can. 0.84
00:37:29.080 They, this was their 9-11, the same way that America had a right to respond in, you know, 0.55
00:37:34.360 with all necessary and due force for their own security and their own preservation, the
00:37:40.900 same way that we have that right, the Israelis have that right, and Hamas, you know, they 0.90
00:37:45.540 had, Hamas has earned every dead Hamas fighter that they have on their hands now.
00:37:51.520 They, I mean, they, they wanted this, truly they wanted this, as we know, they love, they
00:37:55.120 love death more than we love life.
00:37:56.540 This is what the jihadists always say.
00:37:57.880 Um, and unfortunately it's true, but it doesn't mean we can't test out the theory.
00:38:05.240 And the Hamas, uh, terrorists who had captured and, and were holding, who holds hostages like
00:38:13.460 this?
00:38:14.260 What entity?
00:38:15.040 All these people are like, oh, I'm so pro-Palestinian.
00:38:16.920 I saw these, uh, one of these with his band, uh, I think it was Imagine Dragons are all holding
00:38:21.660 up Palestinian flags.
00:38:22.760 What do they think about Hamas? 1.00
00:38:23.800 I mean, they're morons, obviously. 1.00
00:38:24.960 I mean, maybe they have some catchy songs, fine. 1.00
00:38:27.060 You know, why do all these people have to think they have to weigh in on international
00:38:30.200 politics?
00:38:30.680 They know nothing. 1.00
00:38:31.500 They're just complete ignoramuses. 1.00
00:38:33.300 They know absolutely nothing. 1.00
00:38:34.860 In fact, if anything, they're useful idiots for some of the worst people in the world or 1.00
00:38:38.660 on the world stage like Hamas, because, uh, they approach this issue with just pure ignorance. 1.00
00:38:44.800 They know nothing about what's really going on, what has gone on.
00:38:49.040 Um, but I just thought that that really hammered it home for everyone, uh, to hear a
00:38:57.040 hostage say, that my actual treatment in captivity by those savages became markedly better the
00:39:05.000 moment Trump won.
00:39:06.660 The, the day it's clear that, uh-oh, you know, big daddy Trump is coming back and we, no, no
00:39:13.840 more Biden, you know, with the applesauce and the blanket on his knees and, uh, where am
00:39:18.600 I?
00:39:18.860 And, you know, what is, what is that?
00:39:22.520 It's, don't ever forgive the Democrats for what they did on that.
00:39:25.640 Don't ever think it's okay.
00:39:26.600 Your neighbor who was so smug, so smug, I'm sure, especially in 2020, especially in 2021.
00:39:34.260 Oh, I voted Democrat.
00:39:35.620 How could you have voted for Trump?
00:39:37.020 How could you have done that?
00:39:38.300 Really?
00:39:38.660 How does that all look now?
00:39:42.280 Uh, it's, it's hard to even, hard to even compare Trump and Biden because it's comparing
00:39:49.420 excellence with a non-entity.
00:39:52.620 It's really like comparing, uh, a, you know, if we're talking about combat, this is like
00:39:59.320 comparing a Navy SEAL to somebody who didn't even show up for basic training.
00:40:03.940 How do you compare these?
00:40:05.300 There's no comparison.
00:40:06.100 Biden wasn't even really, he was a puppet and, and now they want to act like this is
00:40:11.480 why you'll notice.
00:40:13.180 I try to focus a lot here on the agenda.
00:40:15.460 I try to talk about the good things that Trump is doing because we can do that because the
00:40:20.280 opposition is a joke.
00:40:22.140 Now we will have to take them seriously again.
00:40:24.440 They're going to try to take back the house.
00:40:25.800 I get it.
00:40:26.580 I'm not, this is not a forever thing, but we do have a window right now where it's
00:40:30.720 pretty as clear sailing as you're going to find in American politics.
00:40:35.020 Trump has right now, uh, meaning, you know, we've, we've, he has never been in a better
00:40:39.840 position to get important things done and they're doing the things.
00:40:43.660 I was very frustrated in the first administration on a few things early on because, you know,
00:40:49.000 they had, they had some bad personnel choices.
00:40:50.780 They had a lot of, notice, think about how many stories you heard from the first term
00:40:56.020 of Trump that were about disloyalty in these agencies and institutions.
00:41:01.960 His stories were, it was like every day there's another story.
00:41:04.500 Oh, state department in revolt.
00:41:06.800 Like, I'm so upset.
00:41:08.140 I work at the state department and I'm like, I cry at my desk at the Trump, but I'm like,
00:41:11.500 I'm thwarting his agenda every day.
00:41:13.440 You know, who is the guy, uh, what was it?
00:41:15.720 Uh, the anonymous I'm, I'm stopping Trump by, by keeping, you know, signatures off his
00:41:22.260 desk and I'm important.
00:41:23.720 And everyone goes, who are you bringing Trump is his big Macs once a day or something?
00:41:29.640 Like, well, who are you?
00:41:31.020 Oh, I'm holding the Republic together.
00:41:32.900 I wrote an op-ed in the Washington post.
00:41:34.820 I don't even, I'm being, I don't even remember that guy's name.
00:41:40.460 Like that actually would have been a story if it was, you know, if the person writing
00:41:44.440 that editorial was like Ivanka or something, right?
00:41:46.480 I mean, if it was somebody who was close to Trump had, I don't remember that guy's name
00:41:51.220 and now he's resistance.
00:41:52.400 He's like, I'm a Republican, but all I do is entertain Democrats.
00:41:55.540 What? 0.99
00:41:55.900 It is such a, such a pathetic and sad political and professional existence for these people 0.98
00:42:03.120 who their hatred of Trump has turned them into something that is respected by neither 0.97
00:42:09.780 side because they're not fully on board with everything the left says, or at least they'll
00:42:15.300 pretend, but they only do things to hurt their own team.
00:42:18.580 I mean, what, what a horrible place.
00:42:20.060 I couldn't do it.
00:42:21.880 It off, you could offer me whatever, you know, uh, it doesn't, I couldn't do it.
00:42:27.460 I mean, actually couldn't just wake up and say, you know, well, I'm the real Republican
00:42:31.900 I hate Trump and everybody who supports Trump is wrong because I, there was this, now that
00:42:38.100 industry I think has dissipated a lot because the media outlets that were propping these
00:42:41.540 people up are places like MSNBC and their credibility is all in, you know, in, uh, smoldering
00:42:47.500 as well.
00:42:50.000 So yeah, yeah.
00:42:52.960 I think, uh, it's very interesting, very interesting to see how all of this plays out.
00:42:59.360 And, uh, I thought that that statement from the, uh, the person who had been taken hostage
00:43:07.720 by Hamas, it's not, it's not, it's a, not a revelation because you know, and I know that
00:43:14.260 that stuff playing out in a million different ways is true, but to have it confirmed is always
00:43:22.260 interesting and it's just more data that we were right about this.
00:43:27.280 And like I said, the, the case about Trump v Biden and what that means for our interests
00:43:32.060 abroad and what that means for our allies in Israel and other allies, uh, the case is
00:43:38.300 very strong Trump v Biden without even this, this kind of really clear data, you know, what
00:43:45.480 I would consider sort of, uh, argument enders on some of these issues.
00:43:48.280 And then when you add them in, you just go, what is, what is the other side?
00:43:51.580 Even what world are they living in?
00:43:54.380 Oh yeah.
00:43:54.960 Joe Biden, but Tony Blinken, I mean, look, look at these people, Tony Blinken would be, you
00:44:02.760 know, in over his head working in HR at some company that, you know, makes mufflers somewhere.
00:44:09.480 Like what is, how are these people running global foreign policy?
00:44:13.620 How are these people staring down our enemies and thinking it's a joke?
00:44:17.720 The whole thing was absurd.
00:44:19.220 And the person who's calling the shots over them, the person who's actually supposed to
00:44:25.340 be the, you know, the, the grand strategic mind is not of right mind.
00:44:30.340 As a matter of fact, agreed on by both sides.
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00:46:14.300 Clay's, you know, on vacation.
00:46:16.680 So he's having a good time.
00:46:18.000 He'll be back next week.
00:46:19.080 We have much to discuss here, friends.
00:46:22.340 And one thing I wanted to touch on, and I'll have to revisit this when Clay has joined us
00:46:30.820 once again.
00:46:31.840 But one thing that I wanted to point out is yours truly, perhaps known to some as the
00:46:39.680 Buckster, or as I told my wife to her laughing at me, the mailman of radio, because I always
00:46:46.780 deliver.
00:46:47.800 That didn't go.
00:46:48.560 I thought it sounded cooler before I, it sounded cooler in my head, you know.
00:46:53.460 But one area where I think I've been, I've been prescient is that there was never going
00:47:00.400 to be a Michelle Obama for president ticket.
00:47:03.000 But this is something that people have talked about for years, as you know.
00:47:07.240 It has come up.
00:47:08.220 I have been asked at cocktail parties, at actual cocktail parties.
00:47:11.560 I don't go to many, especially now that I have a baby.
00:47:13.720 But I do go to a couple here and there.
00:47:16.000 You know, what about Michelle Obama?
00:47:17.640 You know, this was something.
00:47:18.820 And as you know, Clay, I won't get into his point of view on this too much, because he's
00:47:22.640 not here to explain it himself.
00:47:26.000 But Clay thought maybe too.
00:47:27.460 And I've just always thought, you know, she doesn't want to do it.
00:47:31.580 And I think that the more people were exposed to the actual person of Michelle Obama, not
00:47:39.520 the media at really the peak of its powers in a lot of ways, the media during the Obama
00:47:45.660 era and toward the end of the Obama era was, we were really outgunned.
00:47:52.300 It was the early days of social media.
00:47:53.720 And people didn't even realize that the whole game was rigged.
00:47:57.520 Places like Twitter and Facebook, we're saying to ourselves, oh, but.
00:48:01.580 You know, we can get a fair shake.
00:48:03.240 I mean, I knew we couldn't.
00:48:04.280 But if you weren't operating on those platforms as part of your job, you would as a conservative,
00:48:09.520 you had no idea that they were all rigged.
00:48:12.840 And this has become a matter of public record.
00:48:16.300 Now, this is not something there's the there's a debate about.
00:48:18.600 Thanks to Elon buying Twitter, for example.
00:48:20.280 We know this stuff was rigged.
00:48:21.580 And so only certain messaging would really be able to get out there.
00:48:25.920 And and there was a whole bunch of ways that they were able to just sway things.
00:48:30.260 But the the way that they built a cult around Michelle Obama was truly it was an all in,
00:48:43.240 all hands on deck effort by the apparatus.
00:48:47.040 I mean, they they were all in on this.
00:48:51.180 And and there was a time when if you criticized Michelle Obama, you were going to get I remember.
00:48:59.820 You know what?
00:49:00.600 I'll I'll even I'll even cite it.
00:49:02.200 But my friend, Will Cain, who's doing a phenomenal job, as I knew he would always knew Will was just going to be,
00:49:10.300 you know, growing, growing, growing, you know, Will and I sat together at the real news table again.
00:49:15.400 Glenn Beck's the blaze for, I don't know, a few years.
00:49:19.260 I was I think I worked the blaze for five or six years.
00:49:21.840 And I think three or four of them, maybe Will and I were sitting day in and day out our table together.
00:49:25.960 Super talented guy, really good guy.
00:49:27.880 But I remember I think it was on seat because he also was a CNN contributor because CNN used to have people who were conservative on
00:49:35.340 and then they stopped during Trump.
00:49:37.180 And now maybe they're getting back to it used to.
00:49:41.500 But I think Will called out on CNN there.
00:49:45.360 Guys, see if you can find this clip.
00:49:47.160 Michelle Obama held up a bring back our girls sign on on social media. 0.96
00:49:54.220 And this was in reference to the kidnapping by a kidnapping.
00:50:01.840 But I know the group.
00:50:03.580 You don't have to yell the group in my ear, team.
00:50:05.520 In fact, in my new book, which will be out in January, I get to talk about how yours truly kind of knew about Boko Haram before anybody else.
00:50:16.400 This little teaser that there's a little bit of a little bit of conversation.
00:50:19.560 I'm just saying some old school CIA stuff may be coming up.
00:50:23.960 Cleared for release.
00:50:25.760 Oh, I know a lot about Boko Haram.
00:50:27.380 Buck's been deployed to West Africa.
00:50:30.700 I haven't talked about that on the show before.
00:50:32.300 I don't want to get too deep into it now because you're going to have to buy the book, everybody, which is cleared and is coming out.
00:50:39.520 And I'm sorry.
00:50:40.220 No, I've been talking about it forever.
00:50:41.900 It took like six months for the CIA to clear this thing.
00:50:45.980 It is cleared, though.
00:50:46.760 And I can talk about that I actually have some West African expertise.
00:50:52.820 So, yes, it was Boko Haram, the group.
00:50:54.520 They kidnapped our – sorry, they kidnapped these girls from a school. 1.00
00:50:58.120 It was a horrible thing.
00:50:59.120 Boko Haram would have been the most lethal terrorist group in the world around this period by casualties, by deaths.
00:51:07.800 They were walking suicide bombers into crowded churches and just, you know, killed 15 people, 30 people, 50 people.
00:51:15.860 I mean, this was regularly happening, just horrendous stuff.
00:51:20.380 Jihadists aligned with al-Qaeda, you know, same worldview as Hamas, the truth. 0.97
00:51:26.780 But Boko Haram kidnapped these girls. 0.60
00:51:30.660 And Michelle Obama held up this bring back our girl sign administration, right? 1.00
00:51:33.900 I mean, it was – I forget what year.
00:51:35.280 I want to say this was 2014.
00:51:36.800 If I get that right off the top of my head, that's pretty good.
00:51:39.760 I think it was 2014, maybe 2015.
00:51:43.420 And, yeah, check that one for me, team.
00:51:45.800 But the whole thing was like, you're posting this on social media.
00:51:49.380 Your husband's the president.
00:51:51.300 Like, have him – you know, we got drones.
00:51:53.540 Like, go get them.
00:51:54.580 Go save them.
00:51:55.380 Bring back our girls.
00:51:57.000 And Will pointed – and CNN – it was Don Lemon.
00:51:59.580 It was Don Lemon.
00:52:00.440 I remember the whole thing.
00:52:01.700 CNN – Don Lemon freaked out over this.
00:52:04.560 Freaked out over this.
00:52:05.700 You know, how dare you? 1.00
00:52:06.820 Don Lemon's a moron. 1.00
00:52:07.980 But, you know, freaked out over this. 1.00
00:52:09.480 How dare you?
00:52:10.840 And I just remember it's – it wasn't that Don Lemon knows nothing about West Africa,
00:52:17.140 Boko Haram, Nigeria, anything, right?
00:52:19.260 I mean, I actually don't think he – I don't mean this as exaggeration.
00:52:23.100 I don't think that if you gave a map of Africa to him, he could find Nigeria on a map.
00:52:28.480 I truly don't think that he could.
00:52:31.200 But, yeah, now I get to tell you guys, because I wasn't able to before,
00:52:34.620 that my actual first portfolio before I moved to Iraq in the CIA was Africa stuff,
00:52:40.360 was in Africa, particularly West Africa.
00:52:43.120 So, yay, get to talk about it finally.
00:52:46.800 And there's more than that.
00:52:47.900 It's not just – don't worry.
00:52:48.860 In the book, there's more than just like, so, I learned about this place.
00:52:51.740 Yeah, it's done some time over there.
00:52:55.520 But back to Will, Don Lemon, Michelle Obama, this whole situation.
00:53:00.480 The cult of Michelle Obama was so strong that everybody knew if you said –
00:53:06.560 if she stepped into the arena, if she got political on something,
00:53:10.360 and you said anything, it was – they all attacked, right?
00:53:14.020 It was, oh, my gosh, how dare you, Michelle Obama. 0.51
00:53:16.700 And it even went beyond that.
00:53:17.900 It went beyond that to this bizarre – was I right on the year, guys?
00:53:23.300 Do you know what I'm – the bring back our girls thing?
00:53:25.260 Was it 2014?
00:53:27.820 I was right, 2014.
00:53:29.280 That's pretty good.
00:53:30.420 You know, I'm getting old.
00:53:31.420 And for me to pull 11 years ago off the top of my head, this is pretty good recall.
00:53:36.740 I'm just going to say a little pat on the back.
00:53:38.580 Maybe I am the radio mailman.
00:53:40.060 And my wife is like, stop it. 1.00
00:53:43.040 Like, you're just – you're not helping yourself.
00:53:46.700 Carrie's listening right now.
00:53:47.640 She's on the road.
00:53:50.380 So there was this time when you couldn't criticize Michelle Obama.
00:53:54.500 And you also had to say that she was, you know, the most brilliant first lady of all time,
00:54:02.000 the most beautiful first lady of all time, the most incredible.
00:54:05.800 And all we would ever hear about was how wonderful she was.
00:54:10.440 And if you had any – even if you were like, I don't want to hear about it, you know, I don't really –
00:54:15.040 it reminded me at a much lesser level, they did this with Ruth Bader Ginsburg, too.
00:54:19.100 They just created this whole cult, which, by the way, kind of blew up in their faces
00:54:23.260 because Ruth Bader Ginsburg refused to retire. 0.96
00:54:26.360 And so, as we know, another Supreme Court seat for Trump.
00:54:29.860 But they created this cult where we were watching workout videos of Ruth Bader –
00:54:33.860 and adults were saying things like, wow, like, look at her throw that kettlebell around. 1.00
00:54:39.120 She's like a – she's like a tiny, ancient woman who's got like a five-pound weight max, 1.00
00:54:44.420 maybe a two-pound weight in her hands. 0.89
00:54:45.780 I'm supposed – like, I'm glad that she's trying to be healthy, but I'm supposed to be impressed by this.
00:54:49.680 This is insane.
00:54:50.520 This is real.
00:54:51.100 You can find these videos.
00:54:52.640 You think I'm exaggerating, but no, no, the Baxter always knows.
00:54:56.480 And on the Michelle Obama thing, I've just always been a doubter of – not just of her running for president,
00:55:06.180 but of – I think that the more people would see of Michelle Obama without the media's creation
00:55:11.680 of the greatest, most beautiful, most brilliant, most perfect first lady, or really person, ever.
00:55:17.340 Even more perfect than Barack Obama, if that was even possible.
00:55:20.560 But, you know, if you worked at CBS or you worked at the New York Times, that was the party line.
00:55:24.820 Michelle Obama, most amazing person to have ever lived.
00:55:27.400 But here she is where you get to actually learn about the real Michelle Obama,
00:55:35.200 which is talking about women and giving birth to children and your womb. 1.00
00:55:41.700 I want you to listen in to the former first lady here on a podcast, 1.00
00:55:45.340 because now she has to do a podcast too.
00:55:47.200 This is cut three.
00:55:48.080 Play it.
00:55:48.940 So many men have no idea about what women go through, right?
00:55:55.380 We haven't been researched.
00:55:56.940 We haven't been considered.
00:55:58.280 And it still affects the way a lot of male lawmakers, a lot of male politicians, 1.00
00:56:04.880 a lot of male religious leaders think about the issue of choice as if it's just about the fetus, the baby.
00:56:14.640 But women's reproductive health is about our life. 1.00
00:56:19.800 It's about this whole complicated reproductive system that does – 1.00
00:56:24.800 the least of what it does is produce life.
00:56:27.640 It's a very important thing that it does.
00:56:30.020 Okay.
00:56:30.440 Okay.
00:56:32.180 You heard the quote.
00:56:33.900 And that was the end of the clip.
00:56:34.780 I want you to hear the quote.
00:56:36.360 She's a woman and she's saying,
00:56:37.280 the least important thing that the female reproductive system does is produce life. 1.00
00:56:44.620 The least important thing.
00:56:48.760 I mean, I'm trying to think of what I can say on the radio here.
00:56:57.960 But that is so – it's a heinous thing to say. 1.00
00:57:02.100 It's a stupid thing to say. 0.96
00:57:04.500 But it's also an illuminating thing for Michelle Obama to say. 0.99
00:57:10.160 Just like so much of what we have been subjected to, whether it was the Fauci worship and the CDC and the NIH and NIAID or Joe Biden sharp as attack or Trump as Hitler or whatever,
00:57:24.160 another mirage, another mirage that I think has, as they all should, evaporated.
00:57:31.620 Evaporated as the light of truth is allowed in and people can see for themselves.
00:57:40.220 Michelle Obama is not bright and is not a very good person, at least when it comes to public policy. 0.87
00:57:46.160 That is one of the ugliest things I have heard a person say on any podcast in a long time. 0.97
00:57:50.960 Like an expert on women. 1.00
00:57:52.240 Oh, I'm a man, so I can't know about these things.
00:57:54.460 The most amazing thing in my life has only been around now for – I'm forgetting when he was born – like six weeks.
00:58:05.140 And my wife and I just beam with pride every day.
00:58:08.900 And I know what the libs will say.
00:58:10.200 Oh, Michelle Obama loves her children and, you know, she was talking about this in the context of women's rights.
00:58:15.140 Yeah, but she's on a podcast and she's sharing this point of view.
00:58:18.160 And what people hear is what she said, what young women who are impressionable, who have been part of the Michelle Obama cult or they've been indoctrinated into it,
00:58:26.620 what they hear is the least important thing your womb will do is give life.
00:58:34.860 I mean, you want to talk about perverse, evil, misery-inducing?
00:58:41.360 It is one of the worst things I have heard a person say in public life in a, you know, in a very long time.
00:58:50.040 And it is – but I'm not surprised because Michelle – like I said, Michelle Obama, like so many –
00:58:57.500 and, you know, Clay has, like, full credit to Clay.
00:59:00.580 He has let what he, you know, thinks about Michelle Obama be well-known on this program.
00:59:05.080 But I really think that this mythology that was built around her – she should do more podcasts.
00:59:11.740 Let's hear more.
00:59:12.480 In fact, I have another clip for you that we will play.
00:59:17.360 So you can see – the more you hear Michelle Obama actually talking about things – and I know this doesn't surprise you,
00:59:23.100 but it's fun because we were right and we knew, right?
00:59:25.800 You were right.
00:59:26.460 I was right.
00:59:27.080 We've known this all along.
00:59:28.140 They created this whole mythology.
00:59:30.300 The more you hear from Michelle Obama, the – not only you won't be impressed because she's not impressive,
00:59:36.940 the less you will like her, which is, you know, it's quite a thing to say, but it is true. 0.97
00:59:43.000 It's like the more you hear from Joe Biden, the more you knew that he wasn't all there.
00:59:46.580 The more you hear from Michelle Obama, the more you'll be like, wow, this person's not running for president
00:59:51.460 and it's kind of remarkable this person was held up in the way that she was by the media as long as she was.
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