BONUS： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - May 5 2026
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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton discuss President Trump's press conference in the Oval Office, the impact of the Supreme Court ruling on Kamala D.J. Brown's campaign, the Iran deal, and much, much more!
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It is the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show.
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Lots of different news stories to be following, as is always the case.
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President Trump speaking right now in the Oval Office.
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Already Pete Hegseth and General Cain have had a press conference at the Pentagon.
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We will fill you in with the absolute latest there.
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So if you are in Indiana and or Ohio, then you need to get out and get your votes in.
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Vice President J.D. Vance traveled to Ohio to get his primary votes cast this morning.
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But and and by the way, the state of Tennessee, where I am, has begun a new special session to see whether or not they can add another Republican seat to the Tennessee delegation in the wake of the Louisiana Calais case, which did away effectively with redistricting based on race.
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so that is underway uh just real did you see the alito slap down oh yeah slap down of the
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katanji brown jackson maybe we can delay this map 30 alito's like it's unconstitutional why
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would we delay it because we want to have the unconstitutional map for the election anyway
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um i i think it well i was thinking we'd have some fun with that at some point during the
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course of the program because it feels to me increasingly with every one of these filings
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that basically everybody's just fed up with Ketanji Brown-Jackson,
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the worst four-year administration that any of us have ever seen,
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and the lasting legacy of it, aside from all the inflation
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is ultimately that we now have Ketanji Brown-Jackson
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democrats love her they love this they like having somebody who has the legal knowledge
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and and skill of your average ms now trump deranged viewer so they think this is great
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they think it's probably biden's best thing side note and i probably should even bring this up
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you see what kamala's numbers are looking like these days oh she's gonna be the nominee
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this is so this is so disappointing this is so just because because one she's gonna be the
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nominee two you're gonna end up being right on something which drives me completely insane
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and i i just i can see this train slowly coming toward me right now clay's victory dance is she
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is going to be the nominee because she has already begun the campaign the numbers that continue to
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come out reflect that she is substantially in the lead gavin newsom has already begun to fade
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Everybody was talking about how brilliant he was.
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Oh, he's doing all these different podcasts.
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I'm going to try to regain some analytic dignity here by pointing out that I violated one of my own precepts of the foundation of the Democrat Party these days that we learned during the Biden administration, Clay, which is that it's not a candidate.
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In fact, the candidate is a figurehead for the broader Democrat, you know, mechanisms to go into place.
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If I had thought about that, I would not have made a foolish bet with you about Kamala, because, of course, Kamala can be the nominee.
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That is I think that is likely to be the case, unfortunately, as much as I wish it were not going to be the case.
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But I would say the I think you probably sign off on this now.
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The number one story going forward right now is what is the price of oil and gas?
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We've got record highs in the stock market, and I don't want to play into Democrat talking points and their obsession with the price of oil and gas.
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But I do think it's probably worthy of of analyzing right now.
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as we speak crude oil futures right around a hundred dollars um they are coming down uh about
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five percent today as this news has continued to come out uh pete hagseth says the ceasefire
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is not over um we expected some churn listen to cut one no the ceasefire is not over uh ultimately
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This is a separate, distinct project. And we expected there would be some some churn at the beginning, which which happened.
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And we said we would defend and defend aggressively. And we absolutely have.
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Iran knows that. And ultimately, the president's going to make a decision whether anything were to escalate into a violation of a ceasefire.
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Here's an idea, Buck. And I know the White House monitors this and they probably have discussed it somewhat.
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But I think there is an argument, and I will make it, and I believe it is actually a good argument.
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I think if President Trump went out and said the United States is going to ensure the fair transit of the ships in the Strait of Hormuz by actually giving insurance to all of the ship owners that are in the Strait of Hormuz.
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That means if your ship gets hit and it goes under, the United States will help to pay the $100 million value of your ship and cargo.
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And some of you are going to say, well, I don't like the United States taking on this obligation.
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I would suggest to you that the price of oil and gas would drop almost $20 overnight if the United States said that.
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And if the free flow of goods began again in the Strait of Hormuz, which means the cost of us making that insurance guarantee would actually be overwhelmingly paid for in the collapse of oil and gas prices, I think it would be a smart strategic move.
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It also then allies the United States on the side of commerce, and I think Buck automatically sort of labels Iran then as the terrorist actor, because if they are going to attack any of these ships, we have established we want free and fair passage of them.
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I would not include Iran in that guarantee right now until the peace agreement happens.
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But every non-Iranian flagged ship, we can make the determination on it.
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We would provide insurance to and free support for them to transit the Strait of Hormuz.
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I don't think they care that much that there's insurance if they're worried they're going to get blown up or shot or captured.
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Clay, there was just a South Korean vessel attacked, what, in the last 48 hours?
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If you're the captain of an oil tanker right now that's about to go in there,
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are you like, well, Lloyd's of London has my back, so no problem.
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I think if your boss said, hey, I want you to go, I think probably they go.
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The owners of the ships, I think, are concerned primarily about the safety of the physical cargo and their ship itself.
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I think the crew is concerned about the safety of the crew.
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So you think the crew would mutiny, basically, and say, we're not going?
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These aren't Navy SEALs who are piloting these.
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I think a lot of these guys are probably going borderline insane,
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maybe you have to give them hazard pay in order to take the risk.
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You couldn't pay me enough money to strap in in frigid seas
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they will basically take a risk to do anything.
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first of all tennessee man crab not lobster lobster is the northeastern look at this look
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at this guy everybody you see this i'm talking about all the lobsters off crab lobster i don't
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want to be on any ship that i could fall off as you and there's no amount of money you could pay
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me to go out in cold water and try to drag in uh try to drag in crustaceans all right so point one
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point one tennessee man stick to cobbler point two i think you are forgetting how much the risk
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factories for people that are now you might say well it's only one ship that's attacked yeah but
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who wants to who wants to be there's a reason we had to have this whole anti-piracy program off of
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somalia as long as we did because they were and everyone's seen uh what's what's the you know
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what's the movie um not not captain uh task uh oh the i'm the pirate now thing yeah yeah i'm the
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captain now we all know that line i can't remember the name anyway there's a reason we have that it's
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like captain smith or something whatever it is that's tom hanks right captain phillips i said
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smith captain phillips same idea look here's what trump says about the ceasefire we should we just
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he just said this a few minutes ago so you're getting the most update of clay's like get some
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insurance man up i think people would go i think if we insured the boats the evil uh profit focused
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owners of the boat would just say i go i hope you're out i hope you know i hope everybody who
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works for clay in sports media is hearing this he's like sometimes we got to lose a few good
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guys to make a buck no big i gotta say it's true it's true as the awful boss i mean you know if if
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if the super bowl we lose a couple of people at the super bowl it happens you got to be there to
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cover the super bowl he's like you know a stampede here a stampede there all right this is cut 30
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trump moments ago play it what do they need to do to violate the ceasefire well you'll find out
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because i'll let you know they know what to do and they know what to do
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and they know what not to do more importantly actually and you know they fired them in little
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boats with pea shooters you know the pea shooters little boat with little you know why because they
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don't have any boats anymore their navy is comprised of they call them little boats and
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they're fast yeah they're so fast that uh that they had eight of them and they're all gone and
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And they're fast, but they're not fast like a missile.
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They're all gone, so they're looking around for little boats
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You know, we set up a blockade, as you know very well,
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A couple tried, and they got their engines shut out.
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So you got 10 to 20 boats going through the Strait of Hormuz,
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so usually it's like 100 to 150 so it's way down so some ships are going to so some of them are
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willing to to run the run the risk but and this is a 90 90 percent give or take drop from normal
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levels so it ain't open yet not really 90 drop is not open right no no no i mean and again i'm
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trying to think of you may be right that the crews are going to mutiny and they won't go
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um i actually think that most of the hang-up is not as much fear of bodily injury although it's
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an interesting uh thing to think about if the crew just says up sorry we're not going um i think
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it's the fear of the the ships themselves uh being attacked and uh if we there are people
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on those ships so if you're afraid of the ship being attacked that means that people could get
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shot clays but clays really do you do you uh do you put on a top hat and a monocle when you do
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this i think i think if you pay those look again if you pay the guys and you say hey i don't know
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what the average ship uh ship mate um on one of these tankers makes let's say you just said hey
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we got to get this thing out we want commerce moving we need fit i'll give you each more 50k
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to take the risk i think most would go here's the bigger concern i have about this though buck
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everybody's talking about the ships leaving my question is who's going to bring their ship back
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because if i get my ship out of the strait of hormuz and it has been stuck there for a couple
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of months why in the world am i going to take my ship back in and risk again that it could be stuck
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there there's any number of global shipping routes that they could go on so i think while
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the focus is and my my solution for the insurance gets those ships out and gets the commerce moving
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out i don't know who's going in and that's the biggest issue i think going forward because you
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get out however many hundreds couple hundred ships are backed up right there you get all that out
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that's good but it doesn't solve the issue because i'm not taking my ship back in there well i think
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you're totally right about this there's a huge difference between i think it's quiet enough we
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can get out of here that that is a risk versus maybe we should finish our run come back and see
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how that goes that's that's where that's where crewman clay would say hey i'll i'll take the
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extra pay to get out i'm not taking the extra pay to go back because i might get stuck in there for
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a couple months and here's the other thing you're having to pay all of these guys probably hazard
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pay while they're just sitting cooling their heels uh up uh from iran waiting you know you
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look at the the ship tracking um and uh how much money to get to get a clay and buck show from
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a deadliest catch ship in like the bearing straight it would it would have to be they
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would have to pay me it would be crazy money you know what i'm saying it would have it would have
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to be like i don't know uh it's because that would be in order in order sorry what particular job
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to do the deadliest catch thing in the Bering Strait, yeah.
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I wouldn't get on a boat to run the straight for,
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I mean, you'd have to give me, like, a couple hundred million dollars.
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I mean, I'm not risking my life because I'm not a ship guy,
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but if I were a ship guy, like, the ship guys are crazy, right?
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All right, we'll come back to this here in a second.
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And if we have any people that know about shipping from this world, please weigh in with your thoughts on this one.
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Clay, you told us you were going to swim Alcatraz this July.
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Now, I'm going to take a couple of things here.
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two i laura is actually concerned that i might get eaten by a shark and it's really kind of
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gotten in my head that i might get eaten by a shark and buck sharing that story about the
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woman doing the triathlon getting eaten by the shark if there is a way she was she wasn't eaten
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important distinction she got bitten by the shark off the west coast of california during the
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catalina she didn't i thought she died no she's a bite it was a little nibble a little like hey
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what's going on i i the shark thing is in my head and i can't shake it yeah i don't know if an eight
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foot great white shark takes like a little nibble but like she lived she did live here here is here
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is my potential compromise there is very safe in the u.s virgin islands there is a one and a quarter
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mile swim across the bay in megan's bay i used to live overlooking it when i was down there over
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the holiday i was looking at that and i was thinking now granted it's warmer but it's still
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a mile and a quarter uh and i feel like i could prove that i could swim that mile and a quarter
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without being attacked by oh i'm sorry in your bath temperature in your bath temperature water
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under a beautiful sun do they give you a back rub while you're doing it this is preposterous of the
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most of the people that believed i could not do it was about the distance more than it was about
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the temperature of the water i mean i was gonna be in a wetsuit nice warm wetsuit this is i i
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appreciate the uh the call i feel very confident that i could do it uh and i'm willing to do it
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in a way that does not put me at risk of being eaten by a shark if we can contemplate a way to
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do that i'm gonna let tom and tampa bail you out here he's on the lines live tom what's going on
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hey clay uh clam buck listen i just wanted to hitchhike on clay's comments about the uh the
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insurance thing there is definitely some legs there but i think it's important to understand
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a little history lloyd's of london is the insurer of last resort as you guys know but it's important
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to understand some history in the 337 years of lloyd's of london on the high seas insuring
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vessels. This is the first time in history, even the Yom Kippur War, which you would probably know
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about, Buck, because of CIA, even the Yom Kippur War, Lloyds of London still insured. So for this
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to work, each loss of a tanker at the bottom of the sea, including the cost of a tanker and
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assuming a 345,000 barrel of oil to the largest tanker you can do, is about $35 million. So the
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So the asterisk to Clay's idea is that the U.S. would literally have to take over Lloyd's position as the insurer of last resort.
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I don't know the legal machinations of that, but the idea has legs.
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But the problem is Lloyd, as I understand it for the first time in history, is refusing to insure everybody going through there.
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when I think I don't think anybody's really talking about that no look Tom I should have
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explained a little bit more this yeah you're exactly right my idea on insuring is predicated
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on many of the current insurers are saying they will not insure these boats your math is a good
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one there I would say 35 million dollars for a tanker if it went to the bottom of the sea
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that's like not even what a somali daycare makes from our government um so uh so the overall cost
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here my point is and we'll talk about this a bit more because i do think it's an intriguing idea
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the overall cost would immediately vanish in terms of the premium on oil and gas we would get back
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far more than we would be insuring in my opinion uh and it would i think immediately knock twenty
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which would overwhelmingly make gas prices more affordable here,
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Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.
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We'll have some updates for you on Tennessee redistricting battle,
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Not just on Iran, but on the economy, on tariffs,
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bracketed, right? Because I was like, I don't know.
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I don't want to make any promises. I can't believe you never did
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I thought everybody had to do this back in the day.
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that was my high school. Not a lot of presidential
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uh and let's see we've got more i remember primarily in elementary school but uh but i'm
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sure it was elementary school version oh yeah oh we definitely didn't do it in elementary school
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yeah oh yeah like young kids stuff yeah i've always said the best thing that we had when i
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was growing up in elementary school at st david's in new york city was mandatory and just hear me
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out mandatory wrestling starting in first grade and we really then they actually really taught us
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and it was and then we had to wrestle you didn't have a choice it was like part of our pe program
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basically and if you were good enough you had to wrestle in front of the whole school
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and it was like it was like royal rumble stuff in the third fourth grade and you didn't want
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to get punked like you didn't want to look like a little you know uh some kind of uh
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dancing daisy out there so you had to you had to be ready to throw down and uh and yeah it was
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it was good and then later on in life you're like you basically have the the you have the
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basics of grappling taught clay can i tell you what's funny about it though about five years
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after i graduated talking about grammar school they got rid of it because parents complained
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that it was too violent so us zennials gen x millennials early millennials we're a little
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more hardcore you get a little bit older and all of a sudden they're like gen z was like
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my shoulder hurts so i'm just saying gen z you gotta you gotta toughen up a little bit
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gen x continues to save the world but that's a whole nother discussion are you generation is
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good i can't yeah you're the oldest millennial basically right the oldest you can be and be
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considered a millennial yeah so i'm i'm people call it a zennial like a gen x millennial uh so
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i'm i'm as old as you can be i wanted to just get this out there because we were talking animals
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before crocodiles some of you are like stop it talk about talk about taxes and trump and the
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agenda and i hear you and we're going to get to that but also some of you are like let's talk
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about animals way more popular this is what the data reflects i guarantee you the spike
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but as soon as you said like somebody got killed by a crocodile in south africa and there were six
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shoes inside there's not one radio that went off everybody's like spiked i this is what the data
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reflects yeah joint chiefs okay this is a real thing in the news i'm not making this up clay
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mentioned yesterday dolphins possibly being deployed by iran there's some news reporting on
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this i'm just bringing you the news everybody i don't make the news i report the journal reported
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that iran had threatened us with mine laying dolphins in and i mean i i took a picture because
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i knew people were gonna think i'm crazy i took a picture and then i highlighted it which is about
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as good as i can do on my phone tech wise and then i tweeted it out because i'm like things are
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probably not going great for iran if they're threatening us with dolphins and mines uh but
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this was a real thing also these six sons of guns like leave the dolphins out of it you know they're
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actually considered i believe one of the five most intelligent animals oh yeah on earth when
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they measure animal intelligence which is a tough thing to do in a lot of ways uh but one of the
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ways and keep in mind killer whales people talk about how freakishly smart they are they're just
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large they're just really big dolphins they're actually technically not whales they're in the
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dolphin family we just call them whales because they're so large so now think about that and also
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interesting that killer whales can kill great white sharks can even remove their liver which is
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with like an incision i don't even know how the heck that happens um and i've never once in the
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wild never once attacked a human being mistaken a human being for a seal gives you a sense of the
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difference in intelligence between sharks which to clay's point will sometimes mistake us for seals
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at least that's what we believe the great white shark attacks are often the result of killer whales
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are like no that's clay travis look at him clay you've been in the gym lately you know the great
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white i mean the killer whales are a whole other level of intelligence but dolphins obviously
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chimpanzees and uh some of the great apes they call them chimpanzees and then actually orangutans
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are the very top of the animal intelligence scale.
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Dolphins slash killer whales, super high on that.
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There are people who say that crows are freakishly smart, too,
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which you would not expect crows and ravens in the bird family,
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but they have a particularly high intelligence for an animal
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that you wouldn't expect given the size of their brain.
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Point is, Joint Chiefs Chairman was asked about this whole dolphins thing.
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Can you kind of clarify these reports of kamikaze dolphins that we've heard about?
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And I can't confirm or deny whether we have kamikaze dolphins, but I can confirm they don't.
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i can confirm that there was the soviets at one point i believe were experimenting with kamikaze
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dolphins i think that was a thing soviet era trying to train clay uh um and here is
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it's two laser beams this is from austin powers play three you know i have one simple request
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and that is to have sharks with freaking laser beams attached to their heads now evidently my
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A cycloptic colleague informs me that that can't be done.
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Clay, Dr. Evil couldn't get sharks with laser beams.
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I don't think the Iranians can get dolphins with explosives attached to them.
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It is probably a sign that things are not going great for Iran,
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that they have no air force, they have no military,
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uh really in terms of uh navy and president trump said today we basically wiped out all the small
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boat fleet that they might have as well and now according to the wall street journal and that was
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a couple of days ago they were threatening us with dolphins that might have bombs on them
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and this all comes back to look i mean you and i i think are correct in saying that the price
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of oil and gas right now is the number one story domestically is that fair to say i know we got a
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lot of primaries we want you to go vote in indiana and ohio redistricting continues to be a story but
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in terms of how people feel i think the number one story is affordability and the number one way that
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people determine to a large extent affordability is what does it cost to fill up uh oil and gas
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tanks and so this is where my talking about the insurance idea for the united states being the
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uh insurer of choice when it comes to the straight of four moves i was just looking at a map during
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the commercial at the end of the hour break that we had buck most of these tankers right now are
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basically just parked off the coast of dubai there are hundreds of tankers that are just anchored
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off the coast of Dubai, and they are all sitting there
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because the risk from their perspective of going through the strait
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And do you think that if we changed the insurance carrier,
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I do, and I understand some people think that's crazy,
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but I'm trying to look at it as a rational business-based decision
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the ship that is not moving is costing all of these companies a substantial dollar figure
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and so if you're just parked off the coaster so my belief is if there were a uh worst case
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scenario removed and this is from a business perspective not a life perspective although i
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don't want anybody to die as well but the worst case scenario from a business perspective thank
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you very that's very good of you by the way i'm glad you said that you know even light them up
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The worst-case scenario from a business perspective is ship gets attacked, it sinks,
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and you had a caller who I thought did a good job breaking it down.
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And so the insurance to me, if you knew, worst-case scenario,
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we're going to be able to be compensated for the value of that ship.
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Right now, my understanding, Buck, is that many insurers, as that call just said,
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have notified the bank uh and the and the owners of these ships and said we are not going to pay
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in the event that something happens to your ship a lot of these and i used to work on some of these
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contracts a lot of these uh contracts have war clauses in them and risk clauses in them and
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your insurer will notify you and say hey this is a risk that we are not willing to take on
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if you go and something bad happens that's on you i think if you told these owners hey we will
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protect you they would take it now okay so what what insurer what insurer clay hold on i i'm hearing
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you out on this but i think it's a little crazy what insurer is going to insure the boats if they
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say okay we're insured they go and one of them gets blown up no it's the united states that's
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who's gonna step in then we are publicly saying to all of these ship owners we will insure your
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boat so if your boat is if your boat is sunk and attacked then the united states the full faith and
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credit of the united states back benches it my argument is that if we do that oil and gas prices
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will immediately overnight drop about 20 bucks yes but what happens when a ship gets blown up
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What ships are going to want to go through after one of them is at the bottom of the
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Well, I think if we guarantee $50 million in payment to all of the ships, then I think
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Do we have any ship owners who can verify that my idea?
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Do we have any ship owners out there that will verify my idea on this?
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Now, my concern is, if you want me to play this out, yes, a ship could get sunk.
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He's like, ecological disaster, oil everywhere, the whole straits.
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We're not talking about a pleasure yacht with three spring breakers on it.
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Do you remember when the cruise ship hit the coral off the coast of Italy?
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I mean, that was probably the worst thing that's ever happened to a cruise ship.
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They're like, what's the worst thing that could happen?
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Your moron captain could hit coral and sink the whole thing.
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You don't want one of the Super Mario brothers to be the one in charge of your ship.
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But the ship risk is why I think no one is going.
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So I think if we took the financial risk away, that you would go.
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And honestly, if Iran then hits a ship, right, if they attack a ship
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and they create an ecological disaster, that's not good.
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But also, even the environmentalist would then be on the side of Trump because Trump's going to be saving all the animals, and Iran has just polluted the entire Strait of Hormuz with oil and gas.
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So I think we are creating a situation where Iran is clearly the terror actor if we're saying we want commerce to occur.
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Now, my concern is still once the ships leave, they don't go back,
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and that then creates a larger issue because the whole point of the strait existing
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But that is kind of the whole issue, Clay, because if we get the ships to go once,
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The point is they need to be willing to come back.
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If they're not willing to come back, the strait's not open.
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But I think we buy ourselves a lot of time economically if that if those ships are able to come through oil and gas drops 20 bucks overnight and we then have a full month probably before most of those ships are completing their their transit and have to make a decision.
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OK, where do we go get oil and gas next? And my hope would be that we can start to produce more oil and gas in many parts of the country.
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How much more can we increase production there?
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How much more can we increase production in the United States?
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UAE has said we're going to drop out of OPEC, meaning they can produce more.
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I'm just telling you, I'm trying to solve the energy issue in America,
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and I think my insurance idea has some legs here.
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I wish we could get you on the little handheld radio that the captains of the ships always have.
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and have you give a little pep talk to all these tankers.
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Be like, look, not all of you are going to make it,
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but the price of gas is going to go down $20 overnight if a few of you do.
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We've got a bunch of callers who want to weigh in on this too
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welcome back into clay and buck first time on the program we're joined by daniel perez he's
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speaker of the florida house of representatives he's the third cuban-american speaker of the
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florida house we have some stuff we want to talk to speaker perez about right now uh thank you so
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much for being here sir good to have you on it's my pleasure how are you we're good so let's jump
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into we got a couple things here first off we have a little bit of foreign business and then
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we want to talk to you about some florida business um you are cuban-american you are
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certainly tied in here as my near neighbor in south florida to the cuban-american community
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right now there's not a lot of attention trump mentions it sometimes in the white house that
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he's got plans for cuba what is the situation of the island and and where do you think the
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administration should go with this as it pertains to cuba well look it might not be on the on the
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national spotlight consistently but it is down here in miami and we're we're a diverse community
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down here but obviously as you know mostly cuban americans are cubans that have to leave the island
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my parents included my parents had to leave in 1969 the revolution took over 1959 and since then
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the island has been decimated by this regime that has taken away human rights amongst many
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other things from the people of cuba where we stand today is cuba's at an all-time low
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there is no oil there is no energy there is no food there is no health care there is absolutely
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nothing on that island you have to think about it for a second for someone to be willing to get on
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a raft and swim 90 miles with nothing but a compass in the middle of the night how dire does
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the situation have to be and we've had we've had thousands of people risking their lives in that
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exact situation for almost a hundred years and so where we stand here in miami and i and i know that
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i speak on behalf of all cuban americans where we stand is it's time for this regime to pick up
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their bag and get the hell out of town uh because that is that was that is that is land that belonged
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to the cuban people well before they went in there and took it away what trump will do with
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this is up in the air and we have some of the greatest advocates uh having this conversation
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on behalf of the united states and on behalf of all cuban americans and obviously that's led by
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secretary marco rubio who's one of our own and was the first cuban american to be speaker of
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the house in florida what do you think marco rubio is telling president trump obviously
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secretary of state i saw that he was uh also in addition to all the other jobs that he has
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acting as a dj at a miami uh party uh wedding over the weekend uh what do you think marco rubio
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is telling president trump right now and what does a solution look like from your perspective
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and by the way i did see that video of him uh djing at a wedding the man can the man can do it
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on he can do it all if only he can play a little bit of quarterback the dolphins could use of it
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But look, I think the solution here has been consistent, and that is pressure.
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You have to absolutely squeeze the neck of this monster, and you have to cut the head off the snake.
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And I think that's exactly what President Trump and Secretary Rubio are doing.
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The money going into the island has to stop.
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And the problem that you have is many, many Cuban Americans that are here today say, well, I still have family there, and I still want to send resources there.
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And what the regime has done, and this is, you know, it's disgusting, but what the regime has done is they have now replied to the United States by saying, we are going to open up enterprise.
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We are going to open up free market in Cuba so that Cubans can open up a restaurant, a store, a supermarket, and actually have interstate commerce amongst Cubans.
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Because the way that the Cuban government works is in order for you to go ahead and open up, let's say, a restaurant, a certain percentage has to be paid into the government's pocket of profit before you can even actually open those doors or run those doors.
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So there is no free market. There is no capitalism. There is no competition. It is all owned by one umbrella patriarch entity that's owned by the Cuban government. And from there, these smaller enterprises are able to, quote unquote, open up their own businesses. But that's bull crap. None of them are actually able to have their own business. But it's a facade that the regime has put in place in order to appease the Americans.
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The problem that they have is that the Americans, led by Secretary Rubio, know the truth.
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And so what I expect Secretary Rubio and the president to do is to continue to squeeze the neck as tight as they can
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until the Cuban people themselves have finally realized we are done.
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We are done having to listen to this regime that has taken away our own freedom.
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And hopefully that happens sooner rather than later.
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We're speaking to Daniel Perez, Speaker of the Florida House.
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We also have, down here in South Florida, a very large Venezuelan-American population.
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Now, the situation in Venezuela, Mr. Speaker, seems like it is trending in the right direction.
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Delce Rodriguez is in charge after the capture of Maduro.
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Sounds like she's at least playing ball with America in a way that is encouraging.
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What do you see, and what's that looking like for the Venezuelan-American community?
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Well, first and foremost, I think the president deserves a lot of credit for making the tough decision,
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which was the right decision and that was taken out of nicolas maduro that was the right decision
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that i don't think any other president would have had the courage to do and so i think that has to
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be mentioned first and foremost as far as the current state of venezuela venezuela today is in
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a way way more prosperous situation than they were a year ago i don't think anyone can debate that
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the venezuelans can't debate that i mean that they are in a phenomenal place their economy is booming
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like never before and all of that credit goes to secretary ruby and president trump here's my
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concern with venezuela my concern with venezuela was a comment that was made by delci in the last
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i'd say seven or eight days when she was asked on when is the next election to duly elect based
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on a democratic provision the next president of venezuela and her response was i don't know when
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that's going to happen and that's concerning because without fair and accurate and open
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elections then eventually they'll just go back to what they know best which is that social that
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socialist ideology that got them in this place to begin with uh that started with Hugo Chavez and
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eventually was ran by Nicolás Maduro and potentially by Delcy unless we have free and
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fair elections to eventually put a new leader in Venezuela that can have a true democracy
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and bring capitalism back to this country I have no doubt that Secretary Rubio and President Trump
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aren't going to allow her to get away with that and elections will have to take place but what I
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didn't like is it was the first time that I saw her not in line with what the American vision is
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we care about our elections we we we are so uh we treat our right to vote our civil right to vote
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as such a sacred opportunity and in the rest of the world they don't see it the same way
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our hope is that venezuelans and really delsey sees it the same way and i have no doubt that
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the president and secretary are going to get her there but that that first response was something
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that wasn't music to my ears uh tell us about the new map i know that the florida house and
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the florida senate have put in place a new map that uh that certainly is going to potentially
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lead to more republican seats what should we know about that map and what do you anticipate the
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result of the map will be well so this is a map that was passed by the house eventually passed
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by the senate and recently signed by the governor it was a map that was drawn by the governor um i
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don't want to speak on behalf of the governor's office but they were the ones that drew it but i
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think this was a map drawn on trying to give certain seats to certain parties or certain
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parts of the state i just think that you know we believe based on the recent court rulings that we
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have an opportunity to have a conversation on redistricting on a mid-decade redistricting and
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so that's exactly what we did you know where that ends up i guess only the voters will be able to
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tell us on uh how many seats may go may go one way or another and we won't know that until november
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but you know i i think that we did our job i think the last redistricting uh cycle was under a census
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that that may have potentially been flawed and uh and florida has had an influx of people moving
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here really because of the way that we've been running our government for decades i think
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it was very easy for elected officials today to take credit for the the prosperous economy that
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florida has but you know we have to take this back for decades you have to talk about a governor
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bush you have to talk about a governor scott those were the ones that kind of started putting
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the wheels in motion when you talk about rick scott and the amount of jobs that he brought
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into the state that that was unprecedented we haven't seen it since as a matter of fact right
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now our job our unemployment rate is going up in the state of florida that never happened on the
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rick scott uh and so you know i think that sometimes people want to focus on the now but
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i always have to give credit to how we got here um and so now we're in this place to where a lot
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of people are moving to florida they want to live here obviously our tax structure is one of the
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best in the country we have a great economy and so people want to be here so i think us having
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the conversation on redistricting was the right one and i applaud the governor for drawing the
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map and uh and i'm sure there'll be plenty of lawsuits down the pipeline and we'll see where
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this ends up you're ahead of the florida house but buck and i saw you most recently at the indiana
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miami game where indiana won the national title you mentioned the dolphins who are you more
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optimistic about the miami hurricanes or the miami dolphins well here i have i have a problem with
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this question because i'm a miami kid that went to florida state and so i'm rooting for the seminoles
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every day of the week no matter what all right well let me start you with that who are you this
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even a better question this is a better question who is going to win a title first florida state
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or miami will florida state be in the playoffs or miami the dolphins be in the play i'm not even
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going to ask about super bowl poor miami dolphin fans you guys are still pining for dan marino
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uh but uh but who will make the playoffs first the dolphins or the seminoles i'm going with the
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seminoles but damn they both stink right now we have no hope neither team has hope i think the
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Dolphins are going to have a rough season, but we're hoping for the best.
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You know, Steve Ross does a great job of owning the team,
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and hopefully he can turn it around with the new management there.
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But I'm a Seminole at heart, and I'm a believer in Mike Norvell.
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but there's absolutely nothing like watching college football on a Saturday morning.
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But it's better when the Seminoles are winning, in my opinion.
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