Bonus: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Nov 11 2025
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The government shutdown is officially over, but the fallout from it is far from over. On today's show, we talk about the impact of the shutdown on our veterans, the impact on the economy, and the Democratic response to it.
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Happy and thankful Veterans Day to so many people out there as we begin the Tuesday edition
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President Trump live at Arlington National Cemetery right now speaking in honor of so
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We have a couple of veterans that are going to be on the program with us today.
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David Rutherford, who is a part of the podcast network, and Dakota Meyer should be really
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Dave Rutherford, a former Navy SEAL with Combat Tours, and Dakota Meyer, a Medal of Honor recipient.
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We'll take some of your calls, some of your stories as well.
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To the extent that, well, I say officially over.
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We've got to have the House also ratify the fact that the shutdown is over.
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But officially, the Senate yesterday, 60 senators said this is ludicrous, including eight different
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We will dive into that meltdown with all of you, as Chuck Schumer is now taking fire in
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basically every direction, because so many people are asking what was actually achieved
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The House is going to vote to lift the shutdown as well.
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Buck, we had last night, I was one of the guests at a big fundraiser for Senator Hagerty, who's
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going to be reelected to the Senate next year from Tennessee.
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And he wasn't able to attend his own fundraiser because he was back in Washington, D.C., getting
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the government back open on the side of the Senate.
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So thanks to the governor of Tennessee for hosting that fundraising event that we had
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But kind of giving you a sense of what's going on.
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Basically, every senator had to be all hands on deck to get to 60 so that they could officially
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The House, my understanding, is going to vote tomorrow to lift the shutdown.
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And hopefully at that point in time, some of the chaos that we're seeing with air traffic
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control, with TSA, with many different aspects of the federal government will go to be tossed
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But again, there is no actual resolution here that made any sense at all.
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We had the longest shutdown in our nation's history, 40 days, and the actual impact buck was
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So let's go and have some fun, actually, on this Veterans Day.
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I was scrolling through and our team did a good job of getting some of the reactions that
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are pouring in on the Democrats' side as they are absolutely furious over Chuck Schumer and
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First of all, David Axelrod, what is the most lasting impact going to be from the shutdown?
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Buck, I think it's very likely going to be that Chuck Schumer is, in many ways, essentially
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David Axelrod, do you think Schumer could be in trouble here with the left flank of the
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I honestly, I think Senator Schumer's been there since 1982.
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My guess is that he won't be leader of the party in 2027 after this election, unless something
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Or you just don't think they have anybody else that wants to step into the fray and actually
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One of the ways that I think you can often objectively assess the other side is looking
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How many years have we all sat around on the right as Republicans been like, Mitch McConnell's
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Mitch McConnell is, you know, he doesn't represent.
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But it's changing because Mitch is basically not, you know, he's non-functional at this
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There's no similar situation in my mind with Schumer.
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Now, if Schumer were up in the next year, maybe he would have Clay.
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By the time he's up in 28, everyone's going to be focused on something else, namely the
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presidential election, the future of the party, all this other stuff.
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And Schumer's going to play the I'm the steady hand.
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You know, the president gets to be the next generation of Democrat leadership.
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So I'm just telling you, I don't buy this at all.
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But Axelrod is smart insofar as this is what the left wing of the Democrat base wants to
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They want to hear that Chuck is going to be pushed out and blah, blah, blah.
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Isn't it funny how quickly we went from the Republicans are going to have to deal with
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an immense civil war inside of their own party?
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Last week to this week being their major issues now on the in the Democrat side.
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I think one of the things I want to play a couple of cuts here from Chuck Schumer, just
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But I think one of the biggest things we're dealing with, Buck, is there's a profound anger
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I think there's just and I think social media exacerbates it.
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And the question is, it reminds me, I know you were a lost viewer back in the day.
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You know how the smoke monster just shows up and you want to try to avoid being the target
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It feels like there's just a shifting cloud of anger or we could go Ghostbusters to the
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goo when everybody was getting the goo and was just angry.
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You know, you put that ring on and wherever Sauron, you know, then you have the eye.
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It all of a sudden, it's actually not called the eye of Sauron.
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One of you Lord of the Rings nerds is going to yell at me for it.
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The, you know, the big scary fire eye that looks at people.
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Yes, I think there's I think there's truth to that, Clay.
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And remember, a lot of this is the game of making people who are very upset, upset at the
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So what you want is you want an energized left wing base going into this midterm.
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Chuck Schumer and the old system, man, they're going to have to stand aside.
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It's going to be the radicals and the revolutionaries, the Democrat Party who are going to change
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I think that's also why I've got to say Gavin Newsom.
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Well, we think we're predicting he's a likely Democrat nominee.
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You know, I ran the biggest state in the country, fifth largest economy in the world.
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But if he has to have AOC as his vice president, he'll do that.
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If he has to bring in the left to make them feel like they have a seat at the table.
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So I don't I don't buy this at all about how Schumer is is Don.
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He's cooked is the term that everyone likes to use for these things.
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That guy's been he's been in the game as long as I've been alive.
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Look, Harry Enten, I will say on CNN, says that Chuck Schumer is the least popular Democrat Senate leader ever.
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And then we'll have some fun with him compared to AOC.
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What about Democrats nationwide feeling about Chuck Schumer?
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I think the word of the day is terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible to quote another Charles, Charles Barkley.
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When it comes to Chuck Schumer, look at this least popular Dem Senate leader.
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I looked at all of the polls going all the way back since nineteen hundred eighty five.
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The one who has the lowest rating among Democrats is, in fact, Chuck Schumer.
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That makes him the least popular guy for a Dem Senate leader going all the way back since the mid 1980s, at least.
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I do think I know we talked about this yesterday and I got the year wrong because it's been talked about so much.
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I thought that Schumer was up in twenty six, actually twenty eight.
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His best benefit, I think, is that AOC may not want to be the senator.
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I think she may well run for president and it's hard to run for both.
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But listen to how much more popular AOC is in net favorability among New York Democrats.
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I think if she announced, Buck, that she was going to run, I think Schumer would announce he wasn't going to run because I don't think there's any way he could win a Democrat primary against her.
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I think it would be somewhat similar to what we saw happen with Cuomo going up against Momdani, except AOC would start way more popular than than Cuomo did and certainly sorry, way more popular than Momdani.
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Here is a cut 14, giving you a sense of just how underwater Schumer is in New York.
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How do New York state Democrats feel about Chuck Schumer?
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Chuck Schumer is above water with the Democrats in his home state.
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Look at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez running way ahead.
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If she decides to challenge Chuck Schumer come 2028, she's got a real leg up on the competition.
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I dare say at this point she would be the favorite to beat him, which would be something that would just blow my mind even just a few years ago, given that Chuck Schumer, of course, is a New York born brave type of guy.
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So the question, Buck, I think, is does AOC want to be in the Senate or not?
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Because I think it's going to be hard for Schumer to win a Democrat primary against someone of the left like AOC.
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It would be hard if the election were now, Clay.
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Remember, it's going to be a presidential election year.
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And you're talking about AOC running against Schumer.
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So he's not going to have a Democrat, you know, a Democrat challenge like her.
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Now, one thing to keep in mind, we'll get an early preview of this.
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There is a report that Hakeem Jeffries is going to get challenged by a leftist in the House next year.
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Hakeem Jeffries, obviously, the House minority leader.
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We have two New York City guys that are basically running the Democrat Party in the Congress right now.
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And so that will give you an idea about the energy there and whether there's any opportunity to topple leadership like we already saw Mom Donnie do.
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This is one of Mom Donnie's top assistants, a crazy left-wing guy.
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The funny thing about AOC, though, would be, and again, I think she's running for president.
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And if I were advising her, another way I like to play the game, if I were trying to help the other side, how would I?
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And I would say AOC absolutely should run for president for her own brand.
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Again, I'm not saying I think you all know what I'm saying.
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But she would also, if she did run against Schumer Clay and won, she would have to go down as the ultimate metaphorical giant killer here in politics.
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I mean, she would have to be the, she would have taken out the number three out of nowhere in congressional Democrat leadership.
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That guy had served like, I don't know, 20, 30 years.
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Ever saw the semi-truck that took him out coming?
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I do think there's a story about that one because if he had really seen AOC coming, he could have nipped her entire political tenure in the bud, so to speak.
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But since then, she's only gained in popularity.
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My big takeaway, if there can be one other than nihilism and there's no reason to think anything will work for you in Game of Thrones,
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Game of Thrones is just kind of like a nihilistic mess in a lot of ways.
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But the thing that I did take from it is that hubris, hubris, if you think about all the main character arcs, is the fatal flaw.
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And that guy, I can't remember his name now, who AOC, that tells you something, who AOC ran against, hubris was his, he didn't even think he had a campaign.
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That creates a vulnerability, doesn't it, when you don't even think you have to show up?
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Schumer will know that he's got a campaign if he gets that challenge from his left.
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But I don't believe that, I don't believe that Schumer is going to be, will he be Senate leadership again if they have a majority?
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But I think Schumer would win re-election if he really wants to.
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The fact that the shutdown has already blown up to such an extent that the main talking point today is not any impact that the shutdown had,
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but will the chief Senate Democrat be able to keep his job, is illustrative of what a disaster this has ended up being for the Democrat Party.
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And we told everyone this, they had no real goals, there was no logic behind this shutdown, it was a temper tantrum,
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and sooner or later everybody was going to stop simultaneously throwing the same temper tantrum.
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Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show, Veterans Day edition of the program.
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A bunch of people want to weigh in a variety of different topics relating to Veterans Day.
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David in Louisiana, we were talking about some of the things that veterans went through.
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And you're saying Jonathan Plum Martin, who was a famous diarist who fought in the Revolutionary War
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I've seen it excerpted quite a lot because he is one of the foremost chroniclers of what life was like
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What did you come away with your biggest impression being, David?
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And I wanted to wish Buck a happy Veterans Day and really enjoy your show.
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The last time I talked to somebody at this number, it was the great Rush Limbaugh.
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So I'm very excited to talk to you guys because I think you are a great way to keep on the old Rush show.
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And yes, we're going to fire producer Greg for leading me over the middle and writing the wrong person's name down in the roster there.
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If you watch or read anything relating to the Revolutionary War, that is a huge part of the discussion.
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I believe it debuts in the next few days in the new Ken Burns Revolutionary War documentary.
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Have you seen him doing a bunch of media lately on it?
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I'm actually, because I'm reading the Rick Atkinson books right now, the trilogy, he's only two volumes in.
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And I'm somewhat interested to see what Ken Burns puts together.
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The Civil War documentary that he did back in the 90s was and is a work of art.
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And I know a lot of people have watched additional Ken Burns documentaries since.
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Didn't he do the Central Park Five documentary?
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I mean, Kit Burns, he did baseball, he did the Civil War, which is really, really well done, the Civil War documentary is.
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And it was a PBS huge success story back in the day.
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I mean, he's probably the most famous documentary historian in maybe the world, certainly the United States.
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Let's see, David in Maryland, you got a story for us about Veterans Day.
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I was out in Hawaii for work about 15 years ago, and I took a day at the end of my trip to go see the Pearl Harbor.
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And I went through all the exhibits, and then I took the ship over to the Arizona.
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And went inside, and there was an old gentleman there.
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It was in the center, if you've ever been there.
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And I couldn't really hear him much because it was crowded.
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But later on, I walked over to listen to him, and it turned out he was actually on the ship.
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And he was on the second tallest crow's nest, and he got blown out, and he woke up in the water.
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I didn't even get on the ship back because I wanted to talk to him.
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And he said, you want to know why I think it blew up?
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He said, well, we just put a catapult on about a year before to send off float planes to do some reconnaissance.
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Stick with us because we've got a heart out here.
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That's one of the places I'd like to go, Pearl Harbor.
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Do we still have that caller who was telling us a really interesting story?
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It is Veterans Day, and you were telling a story that we all wanted to hear.
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So you can just give us a little, a quick recap.
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Set the scene, because some listeners will have rejoined us, and we'll let you take this
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So I was, the gentleman, I was talking to the gentleman after the ship left, and we were
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the only two in there, and he said, you know, want to know why I think the ship blew up like
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it did, was because we had just put, about nine months before, we put a catapult on, and
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we used to, we would send off float planes with special charges to go out to do reconnaissance.
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And he said that the, the, the powder they used for that was very volatile.
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We had no place to store it except in the magazine, so we set it around the inside of
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the charges for the regular guns, which wasn't as volatile.
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And he thought that was, he thought that was, contributed to the explosion.
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And then it, and then it actually gets better, Clay and Buck, because while we were standing
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there, just the two of us, the next ship came up to drop people off.
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And here comes everybody up, and the very last group coming up was an older gentleman
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with two women on either side, women on either side of him, helping him up the ramp.
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And up the guy came, and he turned, and it was a Japanese guy, and he had an interpreter
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there, and he said he was on one of the planes that had dropped the bombs on Pearl Harbor.
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And the two just looked at each other and saluted each other, and there wasn't a dry
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He said he'd always wanted to be there, but this was the first time he could go to
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Well, thank you for calling in and sharing that story on Veterans Day.
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The World War II Museum in New Orleans is one of the things that's incredible.
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And the reason why it comes to mind here is they put veterans, veterans would come and
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stand in the main lobby that fought in World War II for years and years.
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There's veterans from the New Orleans area, veterans traveling, and tell their stories to people
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And there are so few World War II veterans left among us now that I am so grateful that
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they have done a phenomenal job of chronicling so many of those stories so they aren't lost
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to history with just so many interviews that have been done with so many of our brave World
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And if you get the opportunity, you go to New Orleans.
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I know everybody gets out on Bourbon Street and gets hurricanes and has a phenomenal time
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Please take the time to go to the World War II Museum.
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The last time I was in New Orleans was the Super Bowl last year.
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year and or I guess early this year, I was really impressed at the number of kids that
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Kind of a cool thing to get to do as a kid, but that mom and dad were taking them to as
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part of being down in town for that game, that they were taking them also to the Super
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But when I was there, the number of kids that I saw was very impressive.
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So if you get the opportunity to go tour that museum, I can't recommend it any higher at
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Dan in Prescott, Arizona said you got to have a lunch with General Omar Bradley.
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Well, in 78, our unit at Fort Bliss, which is where General Bradley was stationed or retired,
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And I was fortunate enough to be best on post also.
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General Bradley came and visited our unit, and I was selected to have lunch with him.
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And the two-star general that pushed him around instructed me that I could ask him anything
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He was still in uniform, still a wonderful gentleman.
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But I did not ask him how General Patton died, and I always wanted to.
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He autographed his book for me, and I've seen several documentaries on it, but never quite
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I'm assuming there must be a conspiracy theory associated with that.
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Why would Omar Bradley have not, General Bradley have not wanted you asking that question?
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After reading several books, the accident was such a small accident.
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There were just a lot of things that don't add up.
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He's scheduled to be on in the next couple of days.
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We got Uncle Bill Thursday, so we'll mark this one down for him.
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Is there anything specific that you wanted us to dive into with Uncle Bill?
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I said just the specifics around his view on how Patton died.
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That's a good tease for Sharon, who's on the road right now, and she says Bill O'Reilly's
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You just listened to one of his books out there.
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I bought your book, so I have spent the money for Buck's new book, which will be out in February,
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which will arrive, I believe, at my house on publication day.
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You should also go buy balls, especially if people don't have balls in your life.
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But Sharon, you just read Bill O'Reilly's got a hugely successful series on history, and
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I just drove from western Montana, and I'm heading home to Indianapolis.
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But I spent two days on I-90 listening to Killing England, and it was fantastic.
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I mean, I've read other of his books, Killing Witches, and I can't remember anything else
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And when you mentioned Valley Forge, I had to call in because it was just insane.
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They had to tie rags to their feet, and the British would track them through the snow because
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Stay safe on the road as you travel back to Indianapolis.
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Having just read about Valley Forge, fuck, nobody had shoes.
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I mean, think about how cold it is wherever you are, and imagine walking around in those
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Clay, it's honestly, you know, this is kind of...
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This is hitting home for me today in South Florida.
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You got everyone walking around in ski parkas because the only clothing they have that's
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That's cold weather is for when they go skiing.
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It's pandemonium out here in the 50s, my friend.
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I have to put socks on in my sandals down here in Miami.
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People think I'm joking about that, but the iguanas freeze in the trees and fall out
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Their heartbeat slows down so much or their system slows down so much that they essentially
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Can you imagine getting knocked out or killed by an iguana falling out of the tree?
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I don't know if that's ever happened, but I just could tell you when you see one and
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This is why I'm telling you all these people...
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Like, they just freeze like that and truly fall out of the trees in Florida.
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They're an invasive species here in South Florida.
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And unfortunately, they're really rough on foundations for buildings.
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They burrow and they dig so they can be a pest.
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Sort of like the boa constrictors and pythons that they have here now.
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The pets that I like, though, we have parrots that have been released.
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There are very few of these species that people associate with.
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Alligators and crocodiles, the only place in the world where they coexist in the same ecosystem
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They're, you know, and then the sharks, which we've talked about a lot.
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But a lot of the things you think of as Florida animals, they're pets that people brought here.
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You got a call for us about the World War II Museum.
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Yeah, you know, I just hopped in my truck, turned it on, heard you guys talking about that.
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And just to let you know, they are still collecting stories.
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Sorry to cut you off, but congratulate him for 100 on us.
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Yeah, he was shot down over Tokyo in a B-29 and a POW in Japan for the last several months of the war.
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It's on my bucket list to get down there and see the place myself.
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I mean, when it's 50 degrees in Minnesota, you guys, do you sleep shirtless outside on your lawn?
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See, man, these Minnesota people, they would outlast us.
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Well, it's so funny that you, as a New Yorker, you dealt with cold winters quite a lot because New York City, the wind is brutal through so many of those buildings and everything else.
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When we were in Fort Wayne, Indiana, we stepped off the plane.
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You were ready to just head straight back to Miami.
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I wanted to light a little fire and just keep my hands, you know, over it outside because it was so cold in Indiana.
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I don't know how you guys deal with this stuff.
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Clay, who did you have of your grandparents' generation?
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He listens and tries to watch as he can, but he was in Vietnam and worked on, while in Vietnam, he was in charge of helicopter maintenance, repair.
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And one of the crazy things, I think I mentioned this before on the show, but one way they ensured that everybody who would build the helicopters was as steadfast in their rehabilitation and their fixing of the helicopters was every time they fixed one, they had to be the first guys to go up in it.
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So for anybody that has been in a helicopter, they would bring them in, say, hey, they need maintenance, they need to be fixed, and then you go right up in it.
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So the way that you knew that you were working on it and making sure that it was as good as anybody could be.
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My mother's father, so my maternal grandfather, who passed away years ago, but he was an officer on the USS Bataan, which is one of those converted aircraft carriers.
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It was essentially, they did this quick fix to these ships to make them into, I think they're called CR, not CRVs, I forget.
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There's some designation for them, but yeah, he initially was a pilot and did some pilot training, but I just remember reading about how, I think we lost, was it 15,000 or 30,000 people to flight accidents in the Pacific Theater?
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Just the plane crashed in the ocean, and that was that.
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Going between theaters of conflict, not, you know, like transport, essentially.
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I think it was something like either 15,000 or 30,000, some astonishing with training accidents and astonishingly high numbers.
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So yeah, there's a lot of ways that people are taking risks when they serve.
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Veterans Day, I want to say thank you to all of the veterans across America.
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We truly thank you from the bottom of our hearts.
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We have so many of you who listen to this show.
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It is a great honor that you spend your time with us and that you trust us to speak honestly
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about issues, including of war and peace and national security.
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We have so many writing in, Clay, and calling in with their own stories of family service.
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My grandfather was one of the corpsmen that pulled the former President Bush out of the water
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Before it was Veterans Day, it was Armistice Day.
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And my great-great-aunt was the one that carried the flag through Paris
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when the surrender happened at the end of World War I.
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My great-uncle, so my grandmother's brothers, they served.
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And Patton once stopped in front of him, Buck, and asked if he had gotten to kill any Germans yet.
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And when he said no, he was a young guy who had just gotten overseas into Europe.
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He said, you're going to get your chance, which he loved telling that story.
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Let me give a shout-out and a thank you to the veteran who called in with the story
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I grew up around Fort Bliss because my dad was a retired Air Force colonel
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We were at Fort Bliss all the time, and my dad became friends with General Bradley.
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And I was a little girl, but I would go to lunch with him because during the summer,
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We'd meet General Bradley at the officer's club, eat lunch, and then I'd go swimming with my dad.
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And I wish I had understood then who he was, but I remember my dad talking to him.
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I could still picture him in his wheelchair, and he would hold my hand and talk to me
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and ask me questions about school and if I'd only known, you know, what questions to ask him.
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But I heard the gentleman call in that he had had lunch with him at Fort Bliss.
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I wonder if he ever knew my dad, but it was an amazing experience.