Verdict with Ted Cruz - October 14, 2025


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On today's show, Clay and Buck take a moment to reflect on President Trump's incredible accomplishments over the past 24 hours, including his trip to Israel and the Middle East, and the White House's decision to honor Charlie Kirk with the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

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00:00:40.700 Welcome back in, Buck.
00:00:43.120 It is a day of reflection over Trump's remarkable accomplishments
00:00:48.240 alongside of his administration.
00:00:50.980 And I never would have believed the day,
00:00:54.480 but as I look down at the roster,
00:00:57.020 we have praise for Donald Trump from Stephen Colbert,
00:01:01.360 Jimmy Kimmel, Joe Scarborough,
00:01:04.140 and an incredible montage our team put together
00:01:07.660 of all different sorts of Democrats singing Donald Trump's praises.
00:01:13.560 I think this is, frankly, remarkable.
00:01:18.740 And I think it deserves all of the public acclimation.
00:01:22.660 We will run through some of those in a moment,
00:01:25.420 but I just wanted to hit you with this, Buck.
00:01:29.220 In the past 24 hours, listen to Donald Trump's schedule.
00:01:34.180 Remember, we went from my cousin,
00:01:37.480 I was going to say my cousin Vinny.
00:01:38.940 We went from Weekend at Bernie's.
00:01:40.580 Apologies to my cousin Vinny.
00:01:41.880 Great film.
00:01:42.680 Weekend at Bernie's presidency of Joe Biden.
00:01:45.040 They tried to run Weekend at Bernie's, too,
00:01:47.080 where they would hide him.
00:01:48.560 He could only do events from, like, 10 to 2.
00:01:51.940 Then they would hide him.
00:01:53.460 If they ever did any press availabilities,
00:01:56.000 they gave him note cards to call on members of the press
00:01:59.460 with pre-screened questions.
00:02:02.140 Listen to what Trump has done just in the last 24 hours.
00:02:05.660 He flew to Israel, spoke to the press there in Israel,
00:02:10.360 met with Israeli leaders, spoke to the press again,
00:02:14.380 met with families of the hostages,
00:02:17.060 delivered an hour-long speech to the Knesset,
00:02:20.060 that is basically the Israeli Congress,
00:02:22.540 did another interview, flew to Egypt,
00:02:26.140 met with the president of Egypt,
00:02:28.160 spoke to the press again,
00:02:30.040 took photos and chatted individually
00:02:32.240 with dozens of world leaders,
00:02:34.080 signed the historic Gaza peace deal,
00:02:37.380 delivered another speech,
00:02:39.300 met privately with world leaders,
00:02:41.740 flew back to the United States.
00:02:43.940 He touched ground publicly walking across the grass
00:02:47.480 of the South Lawn of the White House, I believe, Buck,
00:02:50.660 at 3 a.m.,
00:02:52.460 one of the most extraordinary 36 hours.
00:02:55.220 He took off at 3 p.m., 36 hours before,
00:02:59.760 went all the way to the Middle East,
00:03:01.040 did all of those things,
00:03:02.300 got back off the plane,
00:03:03.560 at 3 a.m.
00:03:05.220 and today is celebrating and awarding
00:03:08.280 to Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica,
00:03:11.880 the Presidential Medal of Freedom
00:03:14.620 for another public event.
00:03:18.140 For those of you who travel internationally,
00:03:20.940 and I imagine a lot of you out there
00:03:22.620 have done this at some point in time,
00:03:25.400 it is, Buck, you just did this,
00:03:26.700 you just flew to Taiwan and you just came back.
00:03:29.740 Traveling internationally
00:03:30.760 is one of the most draining things that you can do,
00:03:33.700 skipping across 12 hours of time zones,
00:03:36.600 all these different things,
00:03:38.120 for anybody no matter their age.
00:03:40.940 For a 79-year-old president
00:03:43.260 who has to be at the top of his game
00:03:45.220 delivering one of the most consequential
00:03:47.100 and I think well-delivered addresses
00:03:49.380 of his entire political career,
00:03:51.440 we're talking about superhuman,
00:03:54.860 extraordinarily unbelievable levels
00:03:58.560 of mental focus and energy
00:04:00.540 to be able to put all this together
00:04:02.040 for anyone.
00:04:03.160 Whether you are the CEO of a company,
00:04:05.340 whether you're working in construction,
00:04:07.760 whether you're a 22-year-old
00:04:09.380 listening to us right now,
00:04:11.180 that's an unbelievable 36 hours
00:04:13.460 of accomplishment
00:04:14.300 and coming on the heels of Joe Biden,
00:04:16.780 it is even more extraordinary,
00:04:19.680 I think.
00:04:20.320 What a 36 hours
00:04:21.760 President Trump just put together.
00:04:24.500 It's been fun just watching
00:04:26.080 all of the Trump adversary media
00:04:29.620 having to find ways
00:04:31.600 to package this for their audience.
00:04:34.940 Overwhelmingly,
00:04:35.960 they've taken the,
00:04:37.560 you know, he's terrible on,
00:04:39.320 they say a bunch of things
00:04:40.700 and then they go,
00:04:41.740 but I have to say,
00:04:42.880 this is pretty darn good.
00:04:44.160 And I don't think
00:04:45.660 that there could be any more obvious,
00:04:48.220 there could be no more
00:04:49.320 clear endorsement
00:04:51.120 of the massive victory here
00:04:52.540 than even Trump's biggest detractors,
00:04:56.540 at least in the media,
00:04:58.060 are having to say,
00:04:59.040 yeah, I think this is a pretty good one.
00:05:00.380 Here's a great example.
00:05:02.420 So, Clay, you'll remember
00:05:03.260 when I did the Bill Maher show
00:05:04.800 before this last election
00:05:06.080 and there were a lot of things
00:05:09.820 that were interesting about that.
00:05:10.840 One is I was like,
00:05:11.480 you guys are about to get
00:05:12.220 absolutely smoked in this election.
00:05:13.600 And the audience did not boo.
00:05:15.640 I think they knew that
00:05:16.780 things were not looking good
00:05:17.920 for them at that point.
00:05:18.720 It was, what, late September,
00:05:20.620 I think, before the election,
00:05:21.620 so maybe about a month ago.
00:05:23.820 And the other thing was,
00:05:25.600 I said to Bill Maher,
00:05:26.840 I think this was on camera,
00:05:28.200 but I definitely said it
00:05:28.800 to him off camera.
00:05:29.920 I said, you know that
00:05:31.760 he's really not going to destroy
00:05:33.260 the country and it's going to be fine, right?
00:05:34.780 I mean, you actually know that.
00:05:36.280 And I swear, he looked at me
00:05:37.440 and he said, I don't know that.
00:05:39.040 I don't know.
00:05:39.800 I think he actually might destroy America.
00:05:41.500 He seemed to truly believe that.
00:05:43.620 Well, Clay, here he is.
00:05:44.460 This is cut three,
00:05:45.960 having to face reality.
00:05:47.360 Play it.
00:05:47.880 I always say this.
00:05:49.220 You cannot ever deny success.
00:05:51.640 You just have to give your respect,
00:05:53.640 even if it's not your thing.
00:05:55.640 Have the humility
00:05:57.680 to give it up for enormous success
00:06:01.100 on any level.
00:06:02.460 I agree.
00:06:03.180 Trump, not my choice,
00:06:05.600 didn't vote for him,
00:06:06.700 but somehow.
00:06:07.680 But a lot of people did.
00:06:09.020 And he's,
00:06:10.300 I can't deny the success.
00:06:13.700 I can't either.
00:06:14.480 Yeah.
00:06:15.100 And he's the president.
00:06:16.180 And he's the president.
00:06:18.640 That's pretty much
00:06:20.160 where any honest,
00:06:22.180 left of center person
00:06:24.100 in this country
00:06:24.740 has to be right now, Clay.
00:06:26.040 You can't deny the success, guys.
00:06:27.960 It's there.
00:06:28.720 It's in front of all of us.
00:06:30.320 If Joe Biden had gotten
00:06:31.880 all of the hostages out of Gaza
00:06:34.060 and delivered a sterling speech
00:06:37.220 giving the virtues of freedom
00:06:40.500 and American leadership
00:06:41.740 and traveled and just run through
00:06:44.940 that 36-hour stretch,
00:06:46.680 he couldn't have done any of it.
00:06:48.220 Let's be clear.
00:06:49.520 And that's why you and me
00:06:50.480 and most of you out there
00:06:51.520 did not vote for Joe Biden in 2020.
00:06:53.960 Kamala Harris could not have done any of this. 0.81
00:06:55.860 And she's 20 years younger
00:06:57.040 than President Trump.
00:06:58.560 But if they had,
00:07:00.320 I would have come on and said,
00:07:01.240 hey, you know what?
00:07:01.780 This is a good result.
00:07:03.820 As I give credit,
00:07:05.220 Bill Clinton came out and said it.
00:07:06.760 Let's play this.
00:07:07.560 I mean, this is,
00:07:09.080 Trump is so successful now.
00:07:11.280 You and I have,
00:07:12.260 and we're going to sing Trump's praises
00:07:14.040 because we think he's having
00:07:15.020 the greatest presidency
00:07:16.540 of the 21st century.
00:07:18.080 I think we are in the midst.
00:07:20.120 I hope some of you take the time
00:07:21.660 to wake up and smile
00:07:22.860 and be grateful
00:07:23.820 for what we are all experiencing right now
00:07:26.720 because I think it's about
00:07:28.060 as good as it gets.
00:07:29.160 Here is a montage put together
00:07:32.540 of Democrats and left-wing media
00:07:35.020 giving Trump credit
00:07:36.400 for the Gaza deal.
00:07:37.800 This is cut seven.
00:07:38.880 This was very much
00:07:39.680 a peacemaker speech.
00:07:40.940 It's a terrific day
00:07:42.200 for the hostage families.
00:07:43.940 It's a terrific day
00:07:44.900 for President Trump,
00:07:46.680 for our national interests.
00:07:48.280 Do you give him credit for this?
00:07:49.900 Certainly.
00:07:50.620 I mean,
00:07:50.940 this is an incredible accomplishment,
00:07:52.840 an incredible moment.
00:07:54.000 President Trump deserves
00:07:55.120 a lot of credit
00:07:55.860 for bringing the parties together.
00:07:57.480 He should get a lot of credit.
00:07:59.080 I mean,
00:07:59.300 this was his deal.
00:08:00.280 He worked this out.
00:08:01.360 Listen,
00:08:01.580 he got the deal
00:08:02.120 across the finish line.
00:08:02.980 There's no question.
00:08:04.060 Things seem sort of possible now
00:08:06.180 in a way that they didn't
00:08:07.040 necessarily before.
00:08:08.300 A better future ahead.
00:08:10.080 That's what today represented.
00:08:11.620 It was so,
00:08:12.160 so powerful
00:08:12.560 and unbelievably emotional.
00:08:13.860 We would not be here
00:08:15.260 if it wasn't for Donald Trump.
00:08:18.000 Okay,
00:08:18.620 let me give you an idea
00:08:19.500 of who was saying all of that.
00:08:21.020 That's the Washington Post,
00:08:22.640 David Ignatius,
00:08:24.260 historian John Meacham,
00:08:26.900 Representative Adam Smith,
00:08:28.620 Democrat from Washington,
00:08:29.920 former Secretary of Defense,
00:08:31.460 Leon Panetta,
00:08:32.800 Senator Mark Kelly,
00:08:33.920 current Democrat from Arizona,
00:08:36.460 Jim Scutto,
00:08:37.480 I'm not sure how you pronounce his name
00:08:38.660 from CNN.
00:08:39.660 Schuto.
00:08:40.460 I don't watch a lot of CNN.
00:08:41.120 I also went to my high school
00:08:42.260 like Fauci did.
00:08:43.200 I know this because
00:08:44.200 these guys get big requests
00:08:46.900 to come back
00:08:47.500 and speak at Regis,
00:08:48.400 but yours truly
00:08:49.080 on the first or second
00:08:50.980 largest radio platform,
00:08:52.220 whatever in America,
00:08:53.420 not a lot of love
00:08:54.040 from the high school.
00:08:54.660 Keep going.
00:08:56.560 MSNBC's David Noriega,
00:08:58.460 Ted Deutch,
00:08:59.660 Democrat from Florida,
00:09:00.880 and Arab-Israeli negotiator
00:09:03.000 Aaron David Miller.
00:09:04.960 Also,
00:09:06.500 Stephen Colbert
00:09:07.260 even said,
00:09:09.480 cut nine,
00:09:11.300 Donald Trump
00:09:12.040 did something good
00:09:13.020 had to make a joke about it,
00:09:14.800 but cut nine.
00:09:15.840 Today,
00:09:16.320 thanks to Trump's
00:09:17.080 newly brokered ceasefire
00:09:18.160 in Gaza,
00:09:18.920 all living Israeli hostages
00:09:20.700 and almost 2,000
00:09:22.180 Palestinian prisoners
00:09:23.300 have been released.
00:09:26.620 Okay?
00:09:28.100 It's important.
00:09:29.300 Credit where credit is due.
00:09:30.640 Donald Trump
00:09:31.200 did something good.
00:09:33.180 Are we still canceled?
00:09:33.900 You sure?
00:09:40.500 I tried.
00:09:42.980 I tried.
00:09:44.820 All right.
00:09:45.620 Jimmy Kimmel
00:09:46.380 even said,
00:09:47.820 good work.
00:09:48.200 Now,
00:09:48.320 they got to make jokes
00:09:49.100 on the backside,
00:09:49.840 but they're actually
00:09:50.880 giving President Trump credit.
00:09:52.360 This is how successful
00:09:54.420 Trump has suddenly become.
00:09:55.840 He has united
00:09:56.480 Jimmy Kimmel
00:09:57.140 and Stephen Colbert
00:09:58.160 in praise.
00:09:58.980 Cut eight.
00:09:59.580 What a day for Donald Trump.
00:10:00.940 You know what?
00:10:01.540 He finally did something
00:10:02.500 positive today,
00:10:03.440 and I want to give him
00:10:04.040 credit for it
00:10:04.620 because I know he's not
00:10:05.260 the type to take credit
00:10:06.440 for himself.
00:10:08.140 Trump was in Israel
00:10:09.580 and Egypt today
00:10:10.820 to celebrate a ceasefire
00:10:12.380 between Israel
00:10:13.360 and Hamas.
00:10:14.320 All 20 Israeli hostages
00:10:15.960 are home
00:10:16.420 after 738 days.
00:10:19.320 Almost 2,000
00:10:20.980 Palestinian prisoners
00:10:22.820 and detainees
00:10:23.720 have been released,
00:10:24.620 and while we're only
00:10:25.280 in the first phase
00:10:26.300 of what will undoubtedly
00:10:27.240 be a long
00:10:28.160 and tricky process,
00:10:29.220 the fact is
00:10:29.740 the bombing has stopped,
00:10:30.900 the hostages
00:10:31.580 have been released,
00:10:32.380 and Trump deserves
00:10:33.100 some of the praise
00:10:34.240 for that.
00:10:34.800 And so I know
00:10:35.440 it sounds crazy to say,
00:10:37.360 but good work
00:10:38.060 on that one,
00:10:38.780 President Trump.
00:10:40.000 Now maybe you can
00:10:41.060 not invade Portland.
00:10:42.800 Just an idea.
00:10:44.480 Okay.
00:10:45.180 Like,
00:10:45.820 this is,
00:10:46.460 I understand they got
00:10:47.200 to slap him on the back
00:10:48.340 and make a joke 0.95
00:10:49.020 or whatever,
00:10:49.980 but the fact
00:10:51.540 that Colbert,
00:10:52.420 Kimmel,
00:10:52.860 CNN,
00:10:53.160 and MSNBC 0.81
00:10:54.280 are all lining up
00:10:55.720 for much of their day,
00:10:56.960 Buck,
00:10:57.200 and having to say,
00:10:58.720 President Trump
00:10:59.500 get a good job.
00:11:00.460 I do wonder 1.00
00:11:01.080 what their moron audiences 1.00
00:11:02.680 are thinking here. 1.00
00:11:04.300 You and I are not surprised
00:11:05.420 this happened,
00:11:06.300 but this is what we voted for.
00:11:07.760 We were right.
00:11:08.880 I would also add
00:11:10.300 that they're limiting
00:11:11.980 the praise
00:11:13.120 to getting the hostages back,
00:11:15.200 but the more comprehensive
00:11:17.160 deal here,
00:11:17.880 there's never been
00:11:18.420 anything like this
00:11:19.440 in media's peace negotiations
00:11:21.220 involving Hamas 0.80
00:11:23.100 involving the future
00:11:24.240 of the state of Israel.
00:11:25.380 I mean,
00:11:25.520 this is enormous
00:11:28.020 as a framework
00:11:29.240 for the Middle East
00:11:30.580 going forward,
00:11:31.400 and they're not saying that
00:11:32.700 because, Clay,
00:11:33.300 it's one thing to point out,
00:11:34.980 okay, fine,
00:11:35.640 he got the hostages back.
00:11:36.860 We all have to admit
00:11:37.680 that's good.
00:11:38.200 I would also note,
00:11:39.580 who was it?
00:11:40.140 I couldn't,
00:11:40.520 I can't remember,
00:11:41.200 but somebody said
00:11:42.000 2,000 Palestinian prisoners.
00:11:44.380 Those are detainees. 0.97
00:11:45.620 They're terrorists.
00:11:46.240 The New York Times. 0.96
00:11:46.720 That's a different thing.
00:11:47.560 The New York Times
00:11:48.240 called it a hostage trade
00:11:50.200 as if the criminals
00:11:52.340 that were under,
00:11:53.740 you know,
00:11:54.740 lock and key
00:11:55.540 were the same
00:11:56.220 as the hostages
00:11:57.040 that were kidnapped.
00:11:58.320 So,
00:11:58.880 I just want to note
00:11:59.700 that on the one side
00:12:00.680 you have civilians
00:12:01.860 who were kidnapped
00:12:03.480 at gunpoint
00:12:04.420 for no reason
00:12:05.880 other than the barbarism
00:12:07.120 and hatred of Hamas,
00:12:09.000 and on the other side
00:12:09.700 you have people
00:12:10.220 who were breaking
00:12:11.560 the Geneva Convention
00:12:12.520 in every way imaginable,
00:12:14.340 fighting as a non-established military,
00:12:18.420 killing civilians,
00:12:19.660 and all of the things 0.79
00:12:21.020 that you could point to.
00:12:22.480 Anyway,
00:12:23.160 but they are trying
00:12:24.440 to limit this
00:12:24.960 to the hostages
00:12:25.760 coming back,
00:12:27.140 and they're not,
00:12:27.960 what they're not willing
00:12:28.720 to say to their audience,
00:12:29.640 Clay,
00:12:29.820 even in these clips
00:12:30.580 for the most part,
00:12:31.320 some of the more news people
00:12:32.920 are alluding to this.
00:12:35.320 Aaron David Miller
00:12:36.140 is actually a sharp guy.
00:12:37.460 I know him from years back,
00:12:39.400 and he knows the region well.
00:12:41.760 There are people out there
00:12:43.180 who are lifetime policy wonks
00:12:46.660 who are saying
00:12:47.300 that part of it
00:12:48.860 is a huge breakthrough too,
00:12:50.220 and that's something
00:12:51.020 they won't say
00:12:51.760 on Kimmel's show.
00:12:52.960 They won't say
00:12:53.820 that Donald Trump
00:12:54.680 not only succeeded
00:12:55.700 as president
00:12:56.520 in getting these hostages back,
00:12:58.120 but Clay,
00:12:59.040 he has succeeded more
00:13:00.520 on Mideast peace
00:13:02.080 than Obama,
00:13:03.820 than Biden,
00:13:04.980 than Bush,
00:13:06.040 than Clinton,
00:13:07.160 than Reagan,
00:13:08.360 than go back,
00:13:09.280 then Carter.
00:13:10.420 Keep going back.
00:13:11.660 That they will not say.
00:13:14.120 Let me ask you this,
00:13:16.600 and I don't know,
00:13:17.440 I'm curious what your answer is.
00:13:18.880 We can talk about it
00:13:19.440 when we come back
00:13:19.980 because we're coming up
00:13:20.560 against a break.
00:13:21.880 How much do you think
00:13:23.100 the average American cares
00:13:24.800 or is paying attention
00:13:26.020 to what's going on
00:13:27.040 right now in the Middle East?
00:13:29.160 In other words,
00:13:30.340 does this move
00:13:31.740 Donald Trump's approval rating
00:13:33.700 in the United States
00:13:35.220 in any kind of appreciable way?
00:13:37.820 Or people like you and me
00:13:39.300 and all of our listeners
00:13:40.180 that are engaged
00:13:41.060 on a day-to-day basis
00:13:42.060 in the news
00:13:42.960 are aware of this,
00:13:44.400 but is this resonating
00:13:45.680 with your average dad
00:13:47.640 or mom sitting in a car line 0.58
00:13:49.300 picking up kids at school?
00:13:50.580 Is this something that matters?
00:13:52.580 I really don't think so
00:13:53.820 for the most part.
00:13:55.280 I think for the
00:13:56.320 Jewish American community,
00:13:59.660 especially because
00:14:00.640 we had Carol Markowitz
00:14:01.660 on yesterday,
00:14:02.100 she has family in Israel.
00:14:03.640 She has family
00:14:04.360 that are in the IDF,
00:14:05.360 so that is very noteworthy
00:14:09.400 for people that feel
00:14:10.500 a direct connection
00:14:11.360 to what's going on over there.
00:14:13.700 But day-to-day over here,
00:14:15.700 this will be swept up
00:14:17.520 in the broader news cycle
00:14:18.640 very quickly.
00:14:20.020 And I think there's nothing wrong
00:14:21.160 with leaving the diplomacy
00:14:22.680 to the diplomat,
00:14:23.920 well, in this case,
00:14:24.980 to Donald Trump,
00:14:26.060 the diplomat-in-chief,
00:14:27.940 and moving back to issues
00:14:30.480 here on the home front.
00:14:32.180 You know,
00:14:32.380 Trump has helped
00:14:33.800 clean that mess up
00:14:34.760 or bring that mess to an end.
00:14:36.560 Let's get our focus
00:14:37.360 back here at home.
00:14:38.560 There's no need for us
00:14:39.980 to have a split focus,
00:14:42.320 I think,
00:14:42.780 that takes away
00:14:43.780 from any of the initiatives.
00:14:45.240 And they're not.
00:14:45.760 The stuff with Portland
00:14:47.080 and Chicago
00:14:47.720 and the border
00:14:48.400 and trade deals with China,
00:14:50.280 that's all still underway, too.
00:14:52.160 This is a big news story
00:14:53.700 more than it is
00:14:54.600 a big Main Street story.
00:14:56.080 I think that's fair.
00:14:57.980 Good analysis.
00:14:59.460 Now we've got Zelensky
00:15:00.580 coming to the White House
00:15:01.460 on Friday.
00:15:02.980 Within that construct,
00:15:04.860 what is MSNBC and CNN
00:15:06.580 going to say
00:15:07.220 if Trump actually brings peace
00:15:09.140 between Ukraine and Russia, too?
00:15:11.720 Remember that scene
00:15:13.020 in Indiana Jones
00:15:14.700 and the Raiders of the Lost Ark
00:15:16.240 when they opened the ark?
00:15:17.100 The answer is going to be
00:15:17.680 100% for me.
00:15:19.280 But yes,
00:15:19.840 I'm not forgetting
00:15:20.480 any of those scenes.
00:15:21.760 It will be like that
00:15:24.300 at MSNBC
00:15:25.100 if Trump ends
00:15:26.100 the Russia-Ukraine war.
00:15:27.140 They will just melt.
00:15:28.300 There won't be anything left.
00:15:29.920 They will spontaneously combust
00:15:31.540 total protonic reversal.
00:15:34.220 I mean,
00:15:34.340 it'll be a total...
00:15:35.740 I don't know what they'll do
00:15:37.660 over there.
00:15:37.960 All right,
00:15:38.120 we'll come back
00:15:38.580 into this here in a second.
00:15:39.240 Did you say Raiders
00:15:39.820 of the Lost Ark?
00:15:41.060 Oh, yeah,
00:15:41.480 when they look at the ark.
00:15:42.640 Well, we have double...
00:15:43.820 I was thinking
00:15:45.080 when they drink
00:15:45.820 from the chalice
00:15:46.580 at the end.
00:15:47.320 Oh, that's the other one.
00:15:48.460 Yeah, there's actually
00:15:49.720 double ones, yeah.
00:15:51.520 I mean, it will be...
00:15:52.220 Lawrence O'Donnell's show
00:15:53.200 might be more like that
00:15:54.260 and whatever other shows
00:15:55.300 are on, like Chris Hayes
00:15:56.320 might be more like
00:15:56.920 the Raiders of the Lost Ark,
00:15:57.980 but people will melt
00:15:59.320 or evaporate in real time
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00:17:40.380 Not only did Trump
00:17:43.000 have a huge win yesterday,
00:17:44.540 as did really the whole
00:17:45.380 Middle East and the world,
00:17:47.000 the civilized world,
00:17:48.580 but there are some people
00:17:50.800 who have some bets
00:17:53.160 that they made
00:17:54.000 who should pay up,
00:17:55.540 I would think.
00:17:56.680 One in particular
00:17:57.580 over at The View,
00:17:58.860 Miss Alyssa Farah,
00:18:00.820 formerly of the Trump White House,
00:18:02.200 I might add,
00:18:02.660 first term.
00:18:03.840 It turns out that
00:18:05.100 she made a promise,
00:18:06.520 and I think she should be
00:18:07.420 kept with that promise, Clay.
00:18:08.360 Listen to this.
00:18:08.820 This is what you said on the air,
00:18:09.820 I don't know,
00:18:10.260 a couple of years ago.
00:18:11.320 If he gets the Israeli hostages out, 0.95
00:18:12.920 I promise I will wear
00:18:13.960 a MAGA hat for one day
00:18:14.980 on the show
00:18:15.360 and say,
00:18:15.860 thank you for doing it.
00:18:17.340 She'll knock it
00:18:18.420 right off my head.
00:18:19.240 You have to be able
00:18:20.580 to cheer for wins
00:18:21.380 when they happen
00:18:21.900 and then call out
00:18:22.980 relentlessly the wrongdoing.
00:18:25.480 I gotta say,
00:18:27.380 a deal is a deal.
00:18:28.680 A promise is a promise.
00:18:29.740 A bet is a bet.
00:18:30.600 Like, however you want
00:18:31.260 to put this.
00:18:31.880 I don't, Clay,
00:18:32.440 if you or I made a promise
00:18:33.500 to this audience
00:18:34.140 about wearing a hat
00:18:34.860 during the show,
00:18:36.060 we're wearing that hat.
00:18:36.900 So, the view has
00:18:38.380 to pay up here.
00:18:39.860 Totally.
00:18:40.360 If I had said,
00:18:41.360 if Joe Biden gets
00:18:42.080 the hostages back,
00:18:43.180 I'll wear a Biden hat.
00:18:45.360 This was last December,
00:18:46.460 to be clear,
00:18:47.040 but yeah.
00:18:47.600 Yeah, last December.
00:18:48.640 She said it after Trump
00:18:49.740 was elected,
00:18:50.340 but before he had
00:18:51.160 taken office.
00:18:51.960 This is a no-brainer.
00:18:53.260 A bet's a bet.
00:18:54.020 She should pay up. 0.62
00:18:55.340 Like, when Buck Island
00:18:56.220 went underwater,
00:18:57.140 you, even though
00:18:57.940 you had to get a snorkel,
00:18:59.000 you took me to
00:18:59.780 a fancy dinner
00:19:00.600 and we had a great steak.
00:19:02.360 I did.
00:19:02.900 True.
00:19:03.780 I owe Jesse Kelly
00:19:04.780 a Red Lobster outing.
00:19:06.500 I have not forgotten.
00:19:07.160 That's right.
00:19:08.240 That's right.
00:19:09.180 Falls, a busy time for kids.
00:19:11.080 I mean, you gotta get
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00:20:09.840 All right.
00:20:10.080 Welcome back
00:20:10.540 into Clay and Buck.
00:20:11.560 Things getting spicy.
00:20:12.580 We mentioned The View.
00:20:14.280 A little bit of a back and forth
00:20:15.920 with the wife of RFK Jr.
00:20:20.400 and Sonny Hostin.
00:20:23.580 The most hostile member
00:20:25.000 of The View on all things.
00:20:27.420 I might just add.
00:20:28.080 She's just the most hostile person 1.00
00:20:29.680 on that show in general.
00:20:32.020 But she was hostile
00:20:32.700 with Cheryl Hines
00:20:33.560 is her name, right?
00:20:34.460 I know her from
00:20:35.700 the Larry David show.
00:20:37.580 Am I right?
00:20:38.000 That's her name? 0.70
00:20:39.020 Yes.
00:20:39.140 Oh, yeah.
00:20:39.700 Teen?
00:20:40.180 Yeah.
00:20:40.760 Making sure.
00:20:41.800 She's an actress. 1.00
00:20:42.860 She's married to RFK Jr.
00:20:44.100 So they had a bit of a
00:20:45.460 tete-a-tete.
00:20:48.360 And we shall discuss that
00:20:50.260 coming up here.
00:20:51.540 Also, I think it's
00:20:54.340 the biggest liberal podcast now.
00:20:56.840 Pivot.
00:20:57.240 You know this show, Pivot?
00:20:58.600 For libs.
00:20:59.460 If you're like a New York Magazine,
00:21:01.020 New York Times subscriber,
00:21:02.520 this and the New York Times podcast
00:21:05.240 are the two big podcasts.
00:21:05.860 Who is on the Pivot pod?
00:21:07.300 I don't know.
00:21:09.000 It is...
00:21:10.400 I forget her name
00:21:11.840 and Professor Galloway
00:21:15.080 from NYU Scott Galloway.
00:21:16.400 Oh, is it Kara Swisher?
00:21:18.240 Kara Swisher.
00:21:18.920 That's right.
00:21:19.460 Kara Swisher.
00:21:20.740 And she argued with me
00:21:22.360 about masks once online.
00:21:23.980 That's all I remember from her.
00:21:24.880 And she was wrong.
00:21:25.580 And I was right.
00:21:26.180 So apparently Buck is very smart.
00:21:27.660 And she should say,
00:21:28.480 I'm sorry that I was so wrong.
00:21:30.640 But Scott Galloway,
00:21:32.840 he actually said some very good things
00:21:34.400 on some topics, I will say.
00:21:37.600 But he weighed in.
00:21:38.720 We're going to get to his analysis, Clay,
00:21:41.060 of a possible...
00:21:42.400 He talked about a possible Kamala run.
00:21:44.860 And I think you'll be pleased to know
00:21:46.080 that this is something that the Libs
00:21:47.680 are discussing now
00:21:49.380 as a thing that may happen.
00:21:52.220 I want to hold everybody in suspense
00:21:53.660 over this one, though.
00:21:54.800 Well, also,
00:21:56.500 did you see,
00:21:57.560 and I love this,
00:21:59.260 Kamala wrote,
00:22:00.120 remember we had fun with this,
00:22:01.660 that Gavin Newsom texted her,
00:22:03.400 out hiking,
00:22:04.160 we'll call you back
00:22:05.160 when she announced that she was running
00:22:07.120 and then never actually called him back,
00:22:09.280 which was, yes,
00:22:10.780 I never called her back.
00:22:11.560 He ghosted the Democrat presidential candidate
00:22:14.920 for the entire campaign.
00:22:18.880 Yes.
00:22:19.840 Evidently,
00:22:20.320 did you see this follow-up to that?
00:22:22.980 After she wrote about it in...
00:22:26.020 This is amazing.
00:22:27.200 This actually...
00:22:28.020 I give Kamala credit.
00:22:29.700 Unlike Alyssa Faragriffin,
00:22:31.280 like I'll call balls and strikes here,
00:22:32.760 this is actually funny.
00:22:33.860 I thought it was funny
00:22:34.660 that Gavin Newsom never called her back
00:22:36.460 because he said he was out hiking.
00:22:38.680 Gavin Newsom was upset
00:22:39.820 that she wrote about that in the book.
00:22:41.560 And he texted,
00:22:42.780 this is the latest version of this book,
00:22:44.680 he texted Kamala and said,
00:22:46.560 well, you know,
00:22:46.860 I did post on social media
00:22:48.880 an endorsement for you
00:22:50.340 and you didn't include that in the book.
00:22:52.400 And Kamala Harris texted him back,
00:22:55.060 on book tour,
00:22:56.820 we'll call you back.
00:23:00.060 So he finally texted her
00:23:02.160 after a year of not commenting,
00:23:04.420 like, hey, with the link,
00:23:05.920 I did endorse you on social media,
00:23:07.960 this should have been in the book.
00:23:09.320 And Kamala Harris texted him back,
00:23:11.320 on book tour,
00:23:12.540 we'll get back to you.
00:23:15.000 So my point on this is,
00:23:17.620 they are really kind of going at it
00:23:20.980 in a very frenemy way
00:23:22.980 that suggests that they are aware
00:23:26.000 of being opponents
00:23:28.440 in the 2028 election.
00:23:30.440 And I don't think there's love lost here.
00:23:32.340 You know this,
00:23:33.140 sometimes politicians can go at it
00:23:35.300 in public
00:23:36.360 and actually like each other privately.
00:23:38.160 In other words,
00:23:38.900 it's a little bit of a public show.
00:23:42.380 I don't think Kamala and Gavin Newsom
00:23:44.380 like each other at all.
00:23:45.760 And I think they want the same thing in 2028.
00:23:47.820 I think they both want to run.
00:23:49.380 Before we got Eric Trump,
00:23:50.500 come up a little bit,
00:23:51.640 friend of the show,
00:23:52.440 son of the president,
00:23:53.420 entrepreneur,
00:23:54.720 business,
00:23:55.420 really business leader.
00:23:56.380 I mean,
00:23:57.240 entrepreneur also,
00:23:58.560 a whole bunch of things.
00:24:00.100 So we'll talk to him about
00:24:01.740 news of the day,
00:24:02.940 his father's legacy,
00:24:04.240 some of the things he's working on.
00:24:05.900 But this Leticia James situation, 0.63
00:24:10.040 Clay,
00:24:10.660 I think is quite interesting.
00:24:12.940 I read the New York Times
00:24:14.480 most recent
00:24:16.740 large piece on this
00:24:19.220 story they wrote on it.
00:24:21.040 And it is really a master class
00:24:23.600 in doing everything possible
00:24:25.920 to try to shift
00:24:29.100 the playing field,
00:24:30.720 the narrative
00:24:31.360 in favor of,
00:24:33.100 in this case,
00:24:33.560 the defendant,
00:24:34.400 Leticia James.
00:24:35.820 Right?
00:24:36.020 It's all,
00:24:36.580 oh,
00:24:37.320 I mean,
00:24:37.620 the storytelling,
00:24:38.620 it's really masterful.
00:24:39.960 You should go, Clay.
00:24:40.860 If you haven't seen this most recent one,
00:24:42.340 it's like,
00:24:43.100 there was a
00:24:43.940 small,
00:24:45.020 modest,
00:24:45.500 colonial house on a street.
00:24:47.400 The flutter of birds
00:24:48.680 in the background.
00:24:49.420 Children playing
00:24:51.740 at a nearby seesaw.
00:24:54.440 And somehow this is at the center
00:24:56.000 of a political,
00:24:57.780 you know,
00:24:58.060 it's like,
00:24:58.900 everything is fine.
00:25:00.480 It's,
00:25:00.660 you know,
00:25:00.780 this is just in the,
00:25:01.840 this is like Main Street America.
00:25:03.960 And then the mean Republicans
00:25:05.300 come along.
00:25:06.160 You can almost hear the,
00:25:07.380 the theme music
00:25:08.720 becoming angry
00:25:10.080 and,
00:25:10.500 and dissonant.
00:25:12.900 But,
00:25:13.920 Leticia James has got 1.00
00:25:15.480 a,
00:25:15.980 an issue here.
00:25:16.800 and that is
00:25:18.900 she not only
00:25:20.620 signed,
00:25:22.040 and this is all alleged,
00:25:23.280 of course,
00:25:23.680 right?
00:25:23.900 Because this is now before a court
00:25:25.360 and she has been indicted.
00:25:27.460 But the,
00:25:28.060 the simple facts are
00:25:29.060 she bought a home
00:25:30.080 and got preferential treatment
00:25:31.880 on the loan
00:25:32.500 for that home
00:25:33.300 because she indicated
00:25:34.280 that it would be
00:25:34.880 an investment property.
00:25:36.080 I own
00:25:36.880 a bunch of investment properties.
00:25:38.880 So I've been through this process.
00:25:40.540 Yes,
00:25:40.720 sir.
00:25:40.820 She said it was a second residence,
00:25:42.760 right?
00:25:42.940 I'm sorry.
00:25:43.440 Did not say it was
00:25:44.380 an investment property.
00:25:45.380 Wait,
00:25:48.760 that is,
00:25:49.500 I got to go back and check.
00:25:50.780 I think,
00:25:51.400 I think the way
00:25:52.420 she said it was primary,
00:25:54.500 but the,
00:25:55.320 so,
00:25:55.840 let's break it down.
00:25:57.260 She,
00:25:57.460 generally speaking.
00:25:58.100 She said it was a second home
00:25:59.260 for her?
00:26:00.780 I think she said it was a,
00:26:03.060 she was not going to be
00:26:04.640 renting it out
00:26:05.360 because when you rent out homes,
00:26:07.340 you know this
00:26:07.900 because you bought
00:26:08.460 a bunch of rentals.
00:26:09.420 When you're renting out a home,
00:26:11.200 the down payments
00:26:12.180 are higher
00:26:13.040 and the rates
00:26:14.020 you typically have to pay
00:26:15.840 are higher.
00:26:16.620 When you say
00:26:17.480 it is a primary
00:26:18.860 or secondary home
00:26:20.440 because you are
00:26:21.700 the occupier,
00:26:23.120 you then are able
00:26:24.640 to get
00:26:25.320 a preferential rate.
00:26:27.460 Yeah,
00:26:27.640 so here we go.
00:26:28.240 This is,
00:26:28.540 the indictment says
00:26:29.380 that while Ms. James, 0.95
00:26:30.500 I got this mixed up
00:26:31.480 in my head,
00:26:31.880 Ms. James indicated
00:26:32.960 to her mortgage broker
00:26:34.200 that she expected
00:26:35.620 to use the house
00:26:36.480 as a second home,
00:26:38.260 she had instead
00:26:39.040 used it as a rental property,
00:26:41.500 a rental investment property,
00:26:42.560 renting the property
00:26:43.340 to a family.
00:26:45.280 Now,
00:26:46.280 here's where it gets interesting
00:26:47.920 or here's what they're saying.
00:26:49.200 What she really did
00:26:50.940 is not rent it
00:26:52.980 and not use it
00:26:54.000 and this is where
00:26:54.560 the thing gets
00:26:55.220 a little bit more confusing.
00:26:56.780 She didn't use it
00:26:57.500 as a second home.
00:26:58.740 She moved
00:26:59.820 family members of hers
00:27:01.740 into the home
00:27:03.220 who then paid
00:27:04.840 either no rent
00:27:06.000 or so little rent
00:27:07.040 as to be
00:27:07.740 essentially
00:27:08.380 de minimis.
00:27:09.640 I mean,
00:27:09.760 it doesn't,
00:27:10.140 so she got
00:27:11.960 the home
00:27:13.660 as her home
00:27:15.220 because basically
00:27:15.780 then she's on the hook
00:27:17.280 for both mortgages,
00:27:18.440 her current home
00:27:19.200 that she lives in
00:27:20.120 and the secondary home
00:27:22.000 if she says
00:27:22.960 it's a second house
00:27:23.760 for her.
00:27:25.060 If it's going
00:27:26.440 to be something
00:27:26.960 that she rents out,
00:27:28.300 that changes
00:27:29.180 the equation
00:27:30.580 for the kind
00:27:32.260 of mortgage
00:27:32.580 she would get.
00:27:33.000 Sorry.
00:27:33.260 So, yes,
00:27:33.720 that is an important
00:27:34.340 point of clarification.
00:27:35.020 But what makes
00:27:36.220 this more complicated
00:27:37.120 is that she didn't
00:27:38.020 rent it out
00:27:38.700 and she didn't
00:27:39.700 use it as a second home.
00:27:41.040 She just used it
00:27:42.100 for nieces
00:27:44.040 of hers
00:27:44.940 to go and live in.
00:27:46.660 Now,
00:27:47.180 the interesting
00:27:47.840 part of this
00:27:49.180 is that
00:27:50.220 according to
00:27:51.280 a few reports
00:27:52.380 that have come out,
00:27:54.160 these nieces
00:27:55.000 or one in particular,
00:27:57.420 one of the nieces
00:27:58.180 is a convicted felon.
00:28:01.280 Now,
00:28:01.540 that
00:28:01.860 or
00:28:02.600 and I think
00:28:03.440 is wanted also
00:28:04.440 on additional charges
00:28:06.300 in another state
00:28:07.060 that creates problems
00:28:09.460 for you
00:28:10.100 in the mortgage process
00:28:11.820 or in the getting a loan
00:28:13.420 and getting
00:28:13.800 so it seems like
00:28:15.540 she may have
00:28:16.760 falsified
00:28:17.920 her loan application
00:28:19.540 in order to help
00:28:20.920 a felon relative
00:28:23.120 get a home
00:28:24.680 that that relative
00:28:25.620 would not have easily
00:28:26.780 been able to get
00:28:27.440 a mortgage for
00:28:28.400 and this is where
00:28:30.080 the preferential
00:28:30.900 loan amount
00:28:32.020 and they think
00:28:32.480 it's about $18,000,
00:28:34.120 $18,900
00:28:34.920 comes in.
00:28:36.500 Okay,
00:28:36.960 let me give you
00:28:37.660 my defense attorney
00:28:38.980 hat here.
00:28:40.640 All of those facts,
00:28:42.140 if I am her defense attorney
00:28:43.840 in a northern
00:28:44.820 Virginia courtroom,
00:28:46.440 here is what
00:28:47.180 I am going to say
00:28:48.180 about this.
00:28:49.300 And again,
00:28:50.100 I'm not saying
00:28:50.860 that this is my argument,
00:28:52.160 I'm saying
00:28:52.700 pretend you're a jury
00:28:53.820 and I am defending
00:28:55.060 Letitia James
00:28:55.860 and pretend the jury
00:28:57.260 is made up
00:28:57.980 70% of
00:28:59.580 Trump haters
00:29:01.200 30% maybe
00:29:02.860 of Trump voters
00:29:03.560 that might not even
00:29:04.280 be an exaggeration
00:29:05.400 but let's say
00:29:05.920 it's 70-30.
00:29:07.100 In other words,
00:29:07.920 there's 12 jurors
00:29:08.940 let's say
00:29:09.680 eight of them
00:29:10.280 are Kamala voters
00:29:11.820 and four of them
00:29:12.600 are Trump voters
00:29:13.260 just to roughly
00:29:14.140 kind of lay it out there.
00:29:15.660 Do you think
00:29:16.480 12 jurors
00:29:17.380 are going to convict
00:29:18.360 if her defense,
00:29:20.360 Buck,
00:29:20.640 which I think
00:29:21.200 it would be,
00:29:22.000 is
00:29:22.340 when I bought
00:29:23.480 this house
00:29:24.180 I intended
00:29:25.460 to use it
00:29:26.320 as a secondary
00:29:27.440 residence
00:29:28.200 to get away
00:29:29.000 from the stress
00:29:29.860 of New York City.
00:29:31.240 You Virginians
00:29:32.060 know how great
00:29:33.480 of an area
00:29:34.000 Norfolk is,
00:29:35.060 how amazing
00:29:36.180 it is to be able
00:29:37.300 to get away.
00:29:38.700 Then I had
00:29:39.820 some nieces
00:29:40.500 and family members
00:29:42.180 who were destitute
00:29:43.440 and out on the street
00:29:44.740 and I decided
00:29:46.380 because I had
00:29:47.020 comparatively more
00:29:48.280 that I allowed
00:29:49.360 them to move in.
00:29:50.640 I wasn't ever
00:29:51.360 planning this
00:29:52.220 but I just wanted
00:29:53.280 to extend
00:29:53.940 the hand
00:29:54.520 as an aunt
00:29:56.220 to family members
00:29:57.580 that needed help
00:29:58.520 and now they're
00:29:59.760 trying to prosecute
00:30:00.680 me for this.
00:30:01.560 If I could go back
00:30:02.280 and redo the mortgage
00:30:03.920 I would change it
00:30:04.880 to be more accurate
00:30:05.780 but life happens
00:30:07.120 and we adjust it
00:30:08.080 on the fly.
00:30:09.360 This is not intentional.
00:30:10.500 They're coming after me
00:30:11.220 because of my politics.
00:30:12.700 Would eight Kamala voters
00:30:14.140 vote to convict
00:30:16.020 if that is her defense?
00:30:18.300 No, I think that she's,
00:30:19.700 look, she's got 0.70
00:30:20.260 Abby Lowell
00:30:21.420 as her defense.
00:30:23.280 I don't think
00:30:24.300 he's even,
00:30:24.780 my guess is he's probably
00:30:25.700 not even going to charge her.
00:30:26.960 He's the kind of lawyer
00:30:27.640 who usually gets
00:30:28.320 mid to high
00:30:29.660 six-figure retainer
00:30:30.840 and gets paid
00:30:31.340 $1,000 an hour.
00:30:33.260 That's what a white-collar
00:30:34.780 defense attorney,
00:30:35.480 a top one,
00:30:36.060 I've known some of them
00:30:36.860 in New York.
00:30:37.280 I have a friend
00:30:37.620 who did this.
00:30:38.580 That's what they make.
00:30:39.620 They say,
00:30:40.540 you've got to give me
00:30:41.160 a quarter of a million
00:30:41.900 or a half a million dollar
00:30:42.880 retainer
00:30:43.440 and then $1,000 an hour.
00:30:45.260 Because criminal defense
00:30:46.820 clients,
00:30:47.800 as you may well understand,
00:30:49.280 are not great
00:30:50.200 about paying bills,
00:30:51.340 so usually you're like,
00:30:52.620 you better give me
00:30:53.300 a big retainer
00:30:54.360 because I'm not going
00:30:55.540 to be trying to track you down
00:30:56.620 if you get convicted
00:30:57.440 to get paid.
00:30:58.340 So that's the way
00:30:58.920 this game works.
00:31:00.060 Doing white-collar defense,
00:31:02.380 you know,
00:31:02.900 stock stuff,
00:31:03.940 frauds,
00:31:04.540 things like that,
00:31:05.720 you know,
00:31:05.920 healthcare fraud,
00:31:06.880 you generally are dealing
00:31:08.080 with clientele
00:31:09.060 that have some assets,
00:31:11.140 especially on the
00:31:11.740 Wall Street side of things
00:31:12.580 with insider trading.
00:31:13.900 So that's where
00:31:14.600 the high-dollar
00:31:15.220 white-collar defense
00:31:16.020 attorney is coming to play.
00:31:16.940 Okay,
00:31:17.160 so she's got
00:31:17.720 top-tier legal defense.
00:31:19.340 You raise a very good point
00:31:20.580 about the...
00:31:21.200 I thought that all along.
00:31:22.320 Look,
00:31:22.860 we've told everybody,
00:31:24.060 don't expect a conviction here.
00:31:25.260 Okay?
00:31:25.720 That doesn't mean
00:31:26.380 it won't happen
00:31:26.960 and we're not trying to...
00:31:28.420 I can't make a judgment
00:31:30.080 one or the other.
00:31:30.840 I'm not on this jury.
00:31:31.960 I don't know.
00:31:32.780 But it's not a slam dunk.
00:31:34.760 And to Clay's point
00:31:35.720 about the...
00:31:36.340 It's a grand-niece,
00:31:37.500 by the way.
00:31:38.360 Yeah.
00:31:38.620 Here, though,
00:31:39.160 is the additional component
00:31:41.760 of this.
00:31:42.620 The reports
00:31:43.180 that are out
00:31:43.900 that her grand-niece
00:31:45.460 has been living
00:31:46.700 rent-free
00:31:47.320 with her children there
00:31:48.500 and there are reports
00:31:49.700 that she,
00:31:50.560 the grand-niece,
00:31:51.280 is a fugitive
00:31:52.480 from North Carolina
00:31:53.740 and has violated
00:31:55.480 probation
00:31:56.200 and still has
00:31:57.500 a bench warrant
00:31:58.540 out for her.
00:31:59.820 That's what the reporting is
00:32:00.980 as I have seen it
00:32:02.400 as of this morning.
00:32:04.500 So,
00:32:05.840 the one thing that's...
00:32:06.900 You know,
00:32:07.080 you're right.
00:32:07.540 It's going to be
00:32:08.000 I was trying to help my family.
00:32:10.020 You know,
00:32:10.360 it was a rental property.
00:32:11.400 I just gave it to them
00:32:12.420 gratis,
00:32:13.400 but then,
00:32:13.940 of course,
00:32:14.200 that undermines
00:32:14.920 the risk factors
00:32:16.000 that go into the loan
00:32:17.040 process,
00:32:18.060 but still,
00:32:19.100 there might be
00:32:19.440 a bit of a tugging
00:32:20.120 on the heartstrings there,
00:32:21.320 but the fleeing fugitive thing
00:32:23.040 may be a little...
00:32:23.880 That may be a little bit
00:32:25.020 of also a problem
00:32:26.500 just because you're
00:32:27.200 the Attorney General
00:32:27.940 for the State of New York
00:32:28.940 and people might
00:32:30.240 not want to cut you
00:32:31.180 as much slack
00:32:31.960 for, you know,
00:32:33.620 playing around the edge
00:32:35.200 here a bit
00:32:36.040 when you're doing this
00:32:36.840 for somebody
00:32:37.300 that's also
00:32:38.060 a convicted felon
00:32:39.880 or might be
00:32:40.840 a convicted felon.
00:32:41.820 Let me also give you
00:32:42.740 a counter-argument.
00:32:43.820 I just gave you
00:32:44.520 what I think
00:32:45.020 the defense attorney
00:32:46.660 case argument
00:32:47.920 partly will be.
00:32:49.660 I believe this house...
00:32:51.580 Correct me
00:32:52.040 if I'm wrong,
00:32:52.740 crew.
00:32:53.080 I believe it was
00:32:53.840 $137,000.
00:32:57.560 That is the Norfolk...
00:32:59.280 And I know I sometimes
00:33:00.420 screw up the pronunciation
00:33:01.500 there.
00:33:02.340 Is it Nor...
00:33:02.920 I want to avoid
00:33:04.000 the curse word,
00:33:04.780 but I feel like
00:33:05.360 I'm supposed to pronounce it
00:33:06.460 like it's a curse word
00:33:07.360 at the end, right?
00:33:10.860 I'm not even going to say it
00:33:11.840 because I get in trouble.
00:33:13.180 So you guys
00:33:13.960 in that area,
00:33:15.560 let me know
00:33:15.880 how I'm supposed
00:33:16.260 to pronounce it.
00:33:17.000 But how many people
00:33:19.320 do you think
00:33:19.940 buy a secondary home
00:33:21.840 in this neighborhood,
00:33:24.560 I looked it up,
00:33:25.660 where a house costs
00:33:27.040 $137,000?
00:33:29.240 In other words,
00:33:30.140 most people
00:33:30.840 who buy second homes,
00:33:32.680 it's you're wealthy
00:33:33.840 and you are getting away
00:33:35.840 from wherever
00:33:37.140 you may live.
00:33:37.840 You go to a lake,
00:33:38.720 you go to a beach,
00:33:39.820 you go to the mountains,
00:33:41.640 and you're paying
00:33:44.080 a decent amount of money
00:33:45.400 for that second home.
00:33:46.980 I think the reality is
00:33:48.580 she bought this home
00:33:50.200 intending for
00:33:51.440 these grand nieces
00:33:52.680 or whatever they are
00:33:54.180 in relation to her
00:33:55.460 to be able
00:33:56.540 to live there.
00:33:57.560 I think she actually
00:33:58.600 intentionally lied.
00:34:00.760 So I think
00:34:01.840 the challenge on this is
00:34:03.280 if you're buying
00:34:04.320 a second home
00:34:05.020 and you are
00:34:05.660 Letitia James
00:34:06.440 and I think
00:34:06.820 she has like
00:34:07.320 a $600,000
00:34:08.500 or $700,000
00:34:09.660 place in the
00:34:10.480 New York City area
00:34:11.460 based on looking
00:34:13.100 at the images
00:34:13.660 of this house,
00:34:14.940 it's not like
00:34:15.440 she bought a farm
00:34:16.380 in a rural area
00:34:17.840 where it's different.
00:34:19.420 This is like
00:34:20.000 not that nice
00:34:20.880 of a neighborhood
00:34:21.580 in this area
00:34:23.840 of Virginia.
00:34:25.300 I think she bought
00:34:26.100 it intending
00:34:26.680 to put her family 0.64
00:34:27.640 members in this home.
00:34:29.140 So I think
00:34:29.800 she did lie. 0.88
00:34:31.160 Now,
00:34:31.380 she may defend
00:34:32.140 herself by saying
00:34:33.060 I thought I was 0.92
00:34:33.800 going to go kick it 0.94
00:34:34.560 in Virginia 0.98
00:34:35.400 and sit on the porch
00:34:36.560 and sip drinks
00:34:39.440 on the porch.
00:34:39.760 She's going to claim 0.68
00:34:40.440 that it was a change
00:34:41.360 in status that occurred
00:34:42.940 after the loan
00:34:43.920 and that that doesn't
00:34:44.780 go to her intent.
00:34:45.260 That's the best defense
00:34:46.160 she has.
00:34:46.940 What I'm saying is
00:34:47.860 if you actually
00:34:48.460 look at the facts,
00:34:49.620 if she had bought
00:34:50.300 some riverfront property
00:34:51.740 that's beautiful view
00:34:52.880 or she had bought
00:34:53.700 some farm,
00:34:54.740 why would she buy
00:34:55.500 this as a second
00:34:56.760 property?
00:34:57.820 Most people don't
00:34:58.520 buy second properties,
00:34:59.580 my point on this,
00:35:00.320 that are infinitely worse
00:35:01.900 than their primary
00:35:02.700 property.
00:35:03.580 You don't want
00:35:04.040 to go to vacation
00:35:04.940 or at least not
00:35:06.540 a different kind
00:35:07.480 of place, right?
00:35:08.300 Like, most people
00:35:09.180 aren't buying second
00:35:10.120 homes to go live
00:35:12.240 in a home that's
00:35:13.020 far worse than
00:35:13.920 the home that
00:35:14.440 they live in now.
00:35:15.320 Most people don't
00:35:15.860 buy second homes,
00:35:16.700 they're not wealthy
00:35:17.280 enough to do it,
00:35:18.000 understood,
00:35:18.840 but this was not,
00:35:20.240 she was buying this
00:35:21.120 for her family.
00:35:21.920 I think she
00:35:22.420 intentionally lied.
00:35:23.620 Now, I think
00:35:23.980 she'll defend herself 0.97
00:35:24.880 by saying,
00:35:25.620 oh, I didn't know
00:35:26.280 my family was going
00:35:27.060 to end up in these
00:35:27.760 dire straits here,
00:35:28.780 but I think the facts
00:35:30.180 actually don't support
00:35:31.220 that argument.
00:35:32.240 This is like the
00:35:33.260 old man rule that 0.98
00:35:34.560 I've instituted,
00:35:35.540 at least for myself,
00:35:36.340 which is if I'm going
00:35:37.280 to travel somewhere
00:35:38.180 for, like, leisure,
00:35:39.900 the bed has to be
00:35:41.060 about as comfortable
00:35:42.240 as my current bed
00:35:43.440 or else I don't want
00:35:44.180 to go.
00:35:45.160 Like, I used to do,
00:35:46.660 I used to rough it,
00:35:47.580 man.
00:35:47.980 I used to stay in,
00:35:48.840 you know,
00:35:49.020 I would go to,
00:35:49.520 like, when I was a
00:35:50.540 college kid,
00:35:51.280 I would stay in places
00:35:52.300 where, I mean,
00:35:53.740 heck, I stayed in places
00:35:55.720 where I wasn't even sure
00:35:56.700 my stuff was going to be
00:35:57.640 there the next morning
00:35:58.460 when I woke up, right?
00:35:59.280 I mean, that was just
00:35:59.820 the reality of it.
00:36:01.000 Now that I'm an old man,
00:36:02.060 I'm like, what's the
00:36:03.080 thread count?
00:36:04.520 Is it quiet?
00:36:06.020 Will they leave me alone
00:36:08.400 until at least 10 a.m.?
00:36:09.600 Like, I have very
00:36:10.440 different rules now
00:36:11.220 for vacation.
00:36:12.160 Well, I will just point out,
00:36:13.440 and all of you hikers
00:36:14.460 out there are going
00:36:15.000 to get angry at me,
00:36:17.040 the wilderness has houses
00:36:18.860 and hotels near it.
00:36:21.560 I don't mind.
00:36:22.700 Like, it's great.
00:36:23.500 Oh, man, Clay's going
00:36:24.000 after you campers out there.
00:36:25.520 Clay is a city kid at heart.
00:36:27.520 Yeah, not even a city.
00:36:28.260 Like, I'm fine.
00:36:29.300 Like, I'll go on a hike.
00:36:30.980 I will go canoeing.
00:36:33.580 I will go.
00:36:34.720 I'm not really that excited
00:36:36.140 about putting up a tent
00:36:37.140 and sleeping on the ground.
00:36:38.980 Now, we are very simpatico
00:36:41.780 on this one,
00:36:42.180 and I grew up doing that
00:36:43.200 because my dad liked to do it,
00:36:44.840 and I did not like
00:36:46.240 sleeping on the ground.
00:36:47.200 I like beds.
00:36:48.600 I like beds.
00:36:49.080 I like refrigerators,
00:36:50.680 air conditioning.
00:36:51.180 Every wilderness
00:36:51.860 has air conditioning.
00:36:54.100 Every wilderness near it,
00:36:55.560 not necessarily in itself.
00:36:57.520 There's always a place to sleep
00:36:59.400 where you can still
00:37:00.300 experience the wild.
00:37:02.120 And so I am a,
00:37:03.300 let's go,
00:37:03.900 let's experience the wild,
00:37:05.280 but then let's return to a bed.
00:37:07.680 You know,
00:37:07.960 humanity has evolved
00:37:09.140 so that we do not have to
00:37:10.660 sleep on the floors,
00:37:11.560 and I think we just
00:37:13.180 should intentionally do so.
00:37:14.500 We both like glamping,
00:37:16.720 and about half of our audience
00:37:19.180 right now is pulling our man cards.
00:37:20.880 So I think that just happened.
00:37:22.280 I think we both were on
00:37:23.700 temporary man card restriction
00:37:25.140 here on the show, Clay,
00:37:26.700 because we see eye to eye
00:37:29.020 on this one.
00:37:29.500 I am not,
00:37:30.380 I don't want to go anywhere
00:37:31.480 where people are like,
00:37:32.940 you might get eaten
00:37:33.700 by the wildlife too bad.
00:37:35.420 You know,
00:37:35.680 you're visiting them.
00:37:36.720 It's like,
00:37:37.380 I'm not into that.
00:37:38.920 I want to at least be able
00:37:39.960 to like get in my car
00:37:40.860 and leave.
00:37:42.200 In fact,
00:37:42.840 we had dinner with your dad
00:37:43.940 recently,
00:37:44.340 and you and your brother
00:37:45.160 were talking about
00:37:46.060 being abandoned in the,
00:37:47.520 in the wilds of Alaska
00:37:48.780 with them on a trip.
00:37:49.900 The grizzly bears all around us,
00:37:52.020 and they're like,
00:37:52.420 we may not be able
00:37:52.880 to get you guys out.
00:37:53.600 You might have to sleep here.
00:37:54.440 We had nothing.
00:37:55.120 We were just going to sleep
00:37:55.940 on the riverbank overnight
00:37:57.460 because we got dropped
00:37:58.320 in by helicopter,
00:37:59.120 and the helicopter
00:37:59.780 couldn't retrieve us,
00:38:00.760 and we were freezing
00:38:01.580 and had no food.
00:38:02.840 That was a quote,
00:38:05.000 vacation.
00:38:06.800 Okay?
00:38:07.700 Ten years ago,
00:38:08.620 that was my vacation.
00:38:10.920 Hopefully you don't get eaten
00:38:11.700 by bears in the middle
00:38:12.480 of the night, boys.
00:38:13.280 My dad, by the way,
00:38:13.960 loves that stuff.
00:38:14.820 He's like,
00:38:15.120 you never feel as alive
00:38:16.140 as when you think
00:38:16.740 you're going to lose
00:38:17.600 the battle with Mother Nature.
00:38:18.940 Like, he loves that stuff.
00:38:20.100 I have no interest.
00:38:21.600 Hikers and campers
00:38:23.420 are right now
00:38:24.320 just furiously
00:38:25.540 from their
00:38:27.640 car-mart jackets
00:38:28.720 lighting us up right now.
00:38:30.340 We're going to get
00:38:30.640 so lit up in these emails
00:38:31.040 and talkbacks,
00:38:31.820 but we deserve it.
00:38:33.320 We'll be safe and warm
00:38:35.000 while you guys
00:38:35.420 are out on the trail.
00:38:36.500 That's exactly right.
00:38:37.440 I mean,
00:38:37.600 some of you still want
00:38:38.340 to sleep in caves.
00:38:39.220 That's not my thing.
00:38:40.480 You know,
00:38:40.900 like,
00:38:41.500 oh, look,
00:38:42.220 it's a great cave.
00:38:43.160 It's dry.
00:38:43.860 There might be a bear in there.
00:38:45.100 I'll just stay at a hotel.
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00:40:27.680 Hour number three.
00:40:28.580 Clay Travis,
00:40:29.520 Buck Sexton Show.
00:40:30.940 Appreciate all of you
00:40:32.300 hanging out with us
00:40:33.180 as we are rolling through,
00:40:34.360 breaking down
00:40:34.840 all of the news
00:40:36.060 of the day.
00:40:36.800 And we are joined now
00:40:37.800 by our friend Eric Trump.
00:40:39.860 He's got a brand new book
00:40:40.980 out today.
00:40:42.000 It's called Under Siege.
00:40:43.640 It is burning up
00:40:44.720 the bestseller ranks.
00:40:46.020 I think I saw it posted
00:40:47.100 that it is the number one
00:40:48.100 release on Amazon today,
00:40:50.260 which is a super impressive
00:40:52.200 accomplishment already.
00:40:53.640 And we'll get into the book
00:40:54.680 in a minute, Eric,
00:40:55.980 but we appreciate you
00:40:56.560 coming on with us.
00:40:58.180 Having said that,
00:40:59.260 we'll get to the book,
00:41:00.180 but are you still
00:41:01.300 kind of processing
00:41:02.120 how incredible
00:41:03.100 what yesterday was like
00:41:05.600 in the Middle East
00:41:06.840 and your dad having
00:41:08.280 the 36 hours
00:41:10.160 that he had
00:41:11.080 where even as we
00:41:12.060 started off the show,
00:41:13.180 MSNBC, CNN,
00:41:15.240 heck, Colbert and Kimmel
00:41:16.540 came out and said,
00:41:18.300 hey, he did something
00:41:19.160 really impressive.
00:41:19.960 You know when MSNBC,
00:41:21.440 CNN,
00:41:21.840 and the late night hosts
00:41:22.720 are praising you
00:41:23.940 that your dad must have
00:41:25.300 really accomplished something.
00:41:26.600 What was that like
00:41:27.360 for you to watch?
00:41:29.260 Well, guys,
00:41:29.900 a year ago,
00:41:30.260 he was literally
00:41:30.660 serving French fries
00:41:31.380 at McDonald's
00:41:31.960 and now he just served
00:41:32.700 Middle East.
00:41:34.860 Literally,
00:41:35.460 it was exactly
00:41:35.960 a year ago yesterday
00:41:37.240 he was doing
00:41:37.840 the French fries routine
00:41:38.720 and riding around
00:41:40.200 in a garbage truck
00:41:41.100 and he just solves
00:41:42.140 Middle East for peace
00:41:43.000 and I think the most
00:41:43.880 impressive part to me,
00:41:45.020 listen,
00:41:45.260 you look at almost
00:41:46.180 at every conflict
00:41:46.920 around the world,
00:41:47.560 whether it's World War I,
00:41:48.740 World War II,
00:41:49.380 Vietnam,
00:41:49.980 Korea,
00:41:50.900 you had kind of a winner
00:41:51.880 and you had a loser
00:41:52.480 of those wars
00:41:53.500 as predetermined
00:41:54.760 and here it actually
00:41:55.960 feels like everybody won.
00:41:57.200 You have people
00:41:58.060 on both sides
00:41:58.540 of the conflict
00:41:58.960 coming out
00:41:59.460 and thanking him
00:42:00.440 profusely
00:42:01.900 for ending the madness,
00:42:03.880 ending the death
00:42:04.980 and destruction
00:42:05.940 and then you have
00:42:06.960 an entire world
00:42:07.600 that's kind of
00:42:07.980 coalesced around
00:42:08.860 this victory
00:42:09.420 and I just think
00:42:10.000 that's a really
00:42:10.440 beautiful thing
00:42:11.540 and one of those
00:42:12.080 things that only
00:42:12.840 he could pull off
00:42:14.100 and I'm proud.
00:42:15.760 I'm proud of him
00:42:16.280 as a son.
00:42:16.840 I mean,
00:42:17.380 listen,
00:42:17.760 we're going to talk
00:42:18.320 about the siege
00:42:18.840 at some point today
00:42:19.960 but everything
00:42:21.460 that we've gone through,
00:42:23.220 everything that they
00:42:23.820 tried to do
00:42:24.360 to destroy us, 0.96
00:42:25.300 guys,
00:42:26.060 it all became worth it
00:42:27.340 for me yesterday,
00:42:28.580 right?
00:42:28.840 I mean,
00:42:29.320 there were times
00:42:30.140 when you couldn't
00:42:30.880 quite get there,
00:42:33.200 right?
00:42:33.740 Was it worth it?
00:42:34.740 Was it not?
00:42:35.380 It was brutal.
00:42:35.980 They tried to destroy
00:42:36.940 your life
00:42:37.520 and then you see
00:42:38.680 a man up there
00:42:39.440 with the entire world
00:42:40.660 respecting America,
00:42:42.440 you know,
00:42:42.680 the death and destruction
00:42:44.260 and evilness
00:42:45.440 has ended.
00:42:47.140 Conflicts all over
00:42:47.820 the world
00:42:48.260 are ending,
00:42:49.180 you know,
00:42:49.360 peace is being brought,
00:42:50.360 you know,
00:42:50.640 some son will go back
00:42:52.100 to their mother tonight
00:42:53.140 who would have otherwise
00:42:54.440 not gone back.
00:42:55.320 She would have been 0.78
00:42:55.680 finding out that
00:42:56.300 that person was dead
00:42:57.400 had it not been
00:42:58.520 for his actions
00:42:59.360 and I think that
00:43:00.440 makes this all worth it.
00:43:01.260 The book is
00:43:02.660 Under Siege,
00:43:03.260 My Family's Fight
00:43:04.060 to Save Our Nation.
00:43:05.120 We're with Eric Trump
00:43:05.880 now talking about it
00:43:07.540 and Eric,
00:43:08.800 I have a long-time
00:43:10.320 law enforcement friend
00:43:11.380 who,
00:43:11.980 he's a big Trump supporter
00:43:13.460 and as the whole
00:43:15.460 situation was playing out,
00:43:17.520 the effort to use
00:43:20.520 unprecedented lawfare,
00:43:22.340 not just against your dad
00:43:23.540 as you have pointed out
00:43:24.680 before,
00:43:25.300 against the Trump organization,
00:43:26.880 against Trump family members,
00:43:28.280 against all of you,
00:43:29.120 really anyone named Trump
00:43:30.140 became a target.
00:43:32.720 As you're going through that,
00:43:34.020 he kept saying,
00:43:35.420 a normal,
00:43:36.280 and by this I just mean
00:43:37.100 an everyday,
00:43:37.800 an everyday person
00:43:38.820 would be broken
00:43:40.240 by one federal indictment,
00:43:42.840 meaning,
00:43:43.380 oh my gosh,
00:43:44.440 how will I ever be able
00:43:45.440 to fight this
00:43:46.220 and what is going to do
00:43:48.160 to my reputation?
00:43:49.440 Your dad and your family
00:43:50.660 are going through
00:43:51.220 four nonsense
00:43:53.240 criminal indictments
00:43:54.480 and some of the civil stuff
00:43:56.180 that you are having
00:43:56.780 to deal with,
00:43:57.460 including from Letitia James,
00:43:58.780 which we were just discussing
00:43:59.660 her situation.
00:44:01.000 What was that like
00:44:02.100 day in and day out?
00:44:03.180 Did it just feel surreal?
00:44:04.580 Did it feel like your dad
00:44:05.740 was prepared for it
00:44:07.480 and was able to be
00:44:08.820 a happy warrior
00:44:09.580 through the whole thing?
00:44:10.660 I mean,
00:44:10.780 bring us into that.
00:44:12.900 Yeah,
00:44:13.240 well,
00:44:13.460 listen,
00:44:14.000 honestly,
00:44:15.000 I was the tip of the spear
00:44:16.300 with that whole thing.
00:44:17.000 My father had certain
00:44:18.000 constitutional protections
00:44:19.020 that kept a lot of the subpoenas
00:44:20.660 away from him,
00:44:21.460 and so guess what they did?
00:44:23.040 At 33 years old,
00:44:24.040 he sat me down,
00:44:24.580 he goes,
00:44:24.820 honey,
00:44:24.940 I want you to run the company.
00:44:26.240 You're the guy,
00:44:27.060 you love real estate,
00:44:28.340 you love building,
00:44:29.020 you love everything we do,
00:44:30.220 you've built so many
00:44:30.880 of our projects,
00:44:31.580 you run everything,
00:44:32.200 you run our teams.
00:44:33.280 I want you to carry this forward
00:44:34.520 because obviously I'm going
00:44:35.180 to Washington, D.C.,
00:44:35.880 and I said,
00:44:36.200 no problem,
00:44:36.880 and guys,
00:44:37.460 I thought I was going
00:44:37.920 to have this great time.
00:44:39.160 Again,
00:44:39.580 building hotels,
00:44:40.260 running a great organization,
00:44:41.020 I never would have thought
00:44:41.900 that 99% of my time
00:44:43.260 for a period of four years,
00:44:44.700 really a period of eight years,
00:44:45.860 was going to be
00:44:46.500 dealing with subpoenas.
00:44:48.060 I became the most subpoenaed person
00:44:49.280 in American history
00:44:50.060 simply because I was the conduit
00:44:51.740 to everything that he had ever built
00:44:53.840 because I was the guy
00:44:54.740 running the organization
00:44:55.760 that had Trump on the front door,
00:44:59.040 and so they came after us mercilessly,
00:45:00.800 and thank God we had two things.
00:45:01.960 We had a loud voice,
00:45:03.280 and we had enough zeros
00:45:04.140 on the back of our name
00:45:05.080 that we could literally spend them.
00:45:06.820 And guys,
00:45:07.680 I've said this plain,
00:45:08.480 we've spent about $400 million
00:45:10.660 fighting off the lunatics, 0.93
00:45:12.060 and this is the dirty dossiers, 0.99
00:45:14.040 this is the made-up Russia collusion.
00:45:15.740 I was the guy that got the call
00:45:16.900 from the FBI saying,
00:45:18.580 I hear you have secret servers
00:45:19.640 in the basement of Trump Tower
00:45:20.840 communicating directly
00:45:22.320 with the Kremlin.
00:45:22.860 We didn't have servers
00:45:23.980 in the basement of the Trump Tower.
00:45:25.200 It was all a lie.
00:45:26.340 It was all made up by Hillary Clinton. 1.00
00:45:28.000 It was all made up by Barack Obama. 0.99
00:45:30.140 We didn't have damn servers, 0.97
00:45:31.540 but they wanted to put us under siege, right? 0.98
00:45:33.680 They needed a reason.
00:45:35.700 You know,
00:45:35.840 they wanted their October surprise,
00:45:37.460 obviously,
00:45:37.980 to get, you know,
00:45:38.540 Hillary three more votes, 0.99
00:45:39.680 but then when she failed
00:45:41.080 so miserably against,
00:45:42.900 you know,
00:45:43.220 a bunch of ragtag individuals 0.90
00:45:45.040 who didn't know a damn thing 0.90
00:45:46.220 about politics, 0.55
00:45:47.000 i.e. our family,
00:45:48.880 she needed a reason
00:45:49.800 to justify her loss.
00:45:51.600 Hence the reason
00:45:52.720 they made this up
00:45:53.440 and they wanted to have this,
00:45:54.600 you know,
00:45:54.840 the shadow loom over my father
00:45:56.500 the entire time.
00:45:57.860 They wanted the shadow government
00:45:59.240 to try and take him down
00:46:00.340 at every single step of the way.
00:46:01.980 And then they leaked
00:46:02.860 his tax returns.
00:46:03.800 I mean,
00:46:03.940 not only did they leak
00:46:04.700 my father's tax returns,
00:46:05.620 every tax return he had,
00:46:06.820 this is the IRS,
00:46:07.920 they leaked all my tax returns,
00:46:09.280 they leaked Don's tax returns,
00:46:10.520 the entire family.
00:46:11.940 You know,
00:46:12.080 then they leaked
00:46:12.540 all the tax returns
00:46:13.300 of all the employees,
00:46:14.220 all our corporate employees.
00:46:15.880 You know,
00:46:16.040 then they silenced us,
00:46:17.340 they took us off of Facebook
00:46:18.300 and Twitter and Instagram,
00:46:19.880 then they gag ordered us.
00:46:21.460 A lot of times
00:46:21.980 you'd see me speaking
00:46:22.860 on the front steps
00:46:23.620 of the,
00:46:24.060 you know,
00:46:24.320 of the courthouses
00:46:25.100 around the country.
00:46:26.460 Why?
00:46:26.820 Because some of those cases
00:46:27.800 I wasn't gag ordered in,
00:46:29.080 but my father was,
00:46:29.960 and so I had to be the person
00:46:30.960 to go out and talk about,
00:46:32.040 you know,
00:46:32.880 the judge's daughter
00:46:33.780 who,
00:46:34.380 you know,
00:46:34.620 apparently works for the,
00:46:35.820 you know,
00:46:36.100 Democratic Party
00:46:36.780 and is one of the biggest,
00:46:38.280 you know,
00:46:38.860 digital media people
00:46:40.000 in New York State
00:46:40.940 while her father
00:46:41.740 is presiding over
00:46:42.620 a trial against my father,
00:46:44.260 right?
00:46:44.580 And then they take them
00:46:45.140 off the ballot of Maine.
00:46:46.180 They take them off
00:46:46.680 the ballot of Colorado.
00:46:48.100 They do everything they can.
00:46:49.620 They call up every bank
00:46:50.960 and they try and get us
00:46:51.700 de-platformed,
00:46:52.480 de-banked.
00:46:53.440 I mean,
00:46:53.640 guys,
00:46:53.960 this was a non-stop siege
00:46:56.420 against our family,
00:46:57.340 but it wasn't just
00:46:57.920 against our family.
00:46:58.620 It was against
00:46:59.000 the Republican Party.
00:46:59.920 It was against you guys.
00:47:01.500 It was against everybody,
00:47:02.460 everybody who wanted
00:47:03.140 free speech.
00:47:04.220 They tried,
00:47:04.880 they tried to hold
00:47:05.780 all of us down.
00:47:06.580 They tried to take away
00:47:07.400 our voice.
00:47:07.940 They wanted to destroy
00:47:08.780 the greatest political movement,
00:47:10.380 you know,
00:47:11.120 ever made.
00:47:11.760 And it's really amazing
00:47:13.340 that we can be sitting here
00:47:14.380 exactly one year later,
00:47:15.720 one year after those
00:47:16.640 court trials
00:47:17.260 and everything else,
00:47:18.480 having been vindicated
00:47:19.440 in all of them,
00:47:20.600 seeing what's happening
00:47:21.320 to Letitia,
00:47:22.720 seeing Letitia's case
00:47:24.340 get thrown out, 0.98
00:47:25.260 literally 5-0
00:47:26.200 by the appellate court,
00:47:27.820 seeing Middle East peace,
00:47:29.020 seeing, you know,
00:47:29.600 inflation go down
00:47:30.820 to nothing,
00:47:31.460 energy prices go down
00:47:32.480 to nothing.
00:47:33.860 You know,
00:47:34.100 I mean,
00:47:34.700 like what vindication
00:47:36.240 this is after everything
00:47:37.920 that we've been through.
00:47:38.760 And I just wanted to ask
00:47:40.640 as a follow-up,
00:47:41.600 Eric,
00:47:41.880 it's amazing to me
00:47:43.180 to see what your dad
00:47:45.280 has gone through
00:47:46.500 and just observing him
00:47:49.200 in public.
00:47:49.900 Also,
00:47:50.160 we've,
00:47:50.460 Clay and I have been fortunate
00:47:51.160 to spend a fair amount
00:47:51.940 of time with him
00:47:52.640 in interviews
00:47:53.440 and,
00:47:53.900 you know,
00:47:54.420 in a person-to-person,
00:47:56.420 face-to-face setting.
00:47:57.680 Your dad,
00:47:58.600 I have never seen him
00:47:59.920 look scared once.
00:48:02.480 And this is somebody
00:48:03.340 who was shot in the ear
00:48:04.400 and somebody else
00:48:05.140 tried to shoot
00:48:05.820 soon after.
00:48:06.460 And that is,
00:48:08.340 it almost seems superhuman
00:48:10.020 to a lot of us observing
00:48:11.200 and I truly mean that.
00:48:13.500 He is superhuman.
00:48:14.800 But guys,
00:48:15.240 this guy I've known
00:48:15.760 my entire life,
00:48:16.500 I mean,
00:48:16.640 he's always been
00:48:17.120 this Energizer bunny,
00:48:18.620 you know,
00:48:18.920 on steroids,
00:48:19.680 wearing a red tie,
00:48:20.520 right,
00:48:20.820 and a dark suit.
00:48:21.900 That's always been my father.
00:48:22.980 Everything that he's ever
00:48:24.920 wanted to do,
00:48:25.580 he's always,
00:48:25.860 you know,
00:48:26.180 he's always charged
00:48:26.880 and it's his only focus.
00:48:28.440 He becomes,
00:48:29.060 people don't realize,
00:48:29.860 he becomes very myopically
00:48:30.920 focused on whatever
00:48:31.720 he wants to do.
00:48:32.500 If it's building
00:48:32.920 the greatest building,
00:48:33.760 he becomes myopically
00:48:34.680 focused on it.
00:48:35.480 If it's building
00:48:35.820 a great course,
00:48:36.320 he becomes myopically
00:48:37.680 focused on it.
00:48:38.500 His real estate career,
00:48:39.580 if it was The Apprentice,
00:48:40.300 he becomes myopically
00:48:41.240 focused on it.
00:48:42.500 Well,
00:48:42.640 he did the same thing
00:48:43.500 with politics.
00:48:44.460 I mean,
00:48:44.560 he just did this turn
00:48:45.640 and just dedicated
00:48:47.100 his entire life
00:48:48.300 to politics
00:48:49.540 and winning a race.
00:48:50.860 He became myopically
00:48:51.840 focused on it
00:48:52.620 and never,
00:48:53.820 I mean,
00:48:54.040 I can't tell you
00:48:54.560 how many people
00:48:55.080 have lost money
00:48:55.780 betting against Donald Trump.
00:48:57.220 You know,
00:48:57.400 don't bet against the guy
00:48:58.420 because he's going to
00:48:58.900 beat you every single time.
00:48:59.960 And,
00:49:00.480 you know,
00:49:00.640 he became myopically
00:49:01.420 focused when he came
00:49:02.160 to the Middle East peace.
00:49:02.980 I mean,
00:49:03.140 that's the one thing
00:49:03.660 that he always wanted
00:49:04.400 to achieve.
00:49:04.880 And that was probably
00:49:06.000 the greatest achievement
00:49:06.720 of all.
00:49:07.120 It's something that
00:49:07.540 everybody was laughing at.
00:49:08.600 This will never happen.
00:49:09.520 These societies hate each other.
00:49:10.840 They've been warring
00:49:11.480 for thousands of years.
00:49:13.220 They'll never come together.
00:49:14.120 And he goes,
00:49:14.500 no,
00:49:14.640 I want peace in the Middle East.
00:49:15.920 I want the Abraham Accords. 0.99
00:49:17.060 I want people to be
00:49:18.640 kind of,
00:49:18.960 you know,
00:49:19.160 prosperous.
00:49:19.780 But he does not back down.
00:49:21.440 He does not mince words.
00:49:22.580 He's politically incorrect.
00:49:23.740 And frankly,
00:49:24.340 it's what people
00:49:25.120 adored about him.
00:49:26.680 I mean,
00:49:26.840 you'd watch his primary debates,
00:49:28.180 guys,
00:49:28.400 in 2016,
00:49:30.300 2017,
00:49:31.680 you know,
00:49:31.980 and all those sound bites
00:49:33.900 were rehearsed,
00:49:35.160 right?
00:49:35.440 I mean,
00:49:35.740 you know,
00:49:36.700 Hillary Clinton,
00:49:37.580 well,
00:49:37.820 it's very lucky
00:49:38.640 that Donald Trump
00:49:39.520 isn't running
00:49:40.080 the legal system
00:49:40.860 of the United States,
00:49:41.680 right?
00:49:41.820 He's throwing out
00:49:42.300 these zingers.
00:49:42.860 Yeah,
00:49:43.000 because you'd be in jail
00:49:43.600 for the rest of your life,
00:49:44.400 right?
00:49:44.620 And he's doing it
00:49:45.280 off the cuff.
00:49:45.780 And people like somebody
00:49:47.260 who was finally real,
00:49:48.760 somebody who wasn't PC,
00:49:50.140 somebody who was willing
00:49:50.740 to go out there
00:49:51.380 and fight like hell, 0.67
00:49:52.600 and somebody who was willing
00:49:53.280 to work hard
00:49:53.920 because you just don't have
00:49:54.620 that in politics.
00:49:55.400 I mean,
00:49:55.820 most of the politicians 0.97
00:49:56.700 are lazy. 0.99
00:49:57.380 They're canned. 0.86
00:49:58.440 They're scripted.
00:50:00.500 They're inauthentic.
00:50:02.240 And they lose Americans.
00:50:05.020 And that's why,
00:50:05.460 you know,
00:50:05.720 there was never any excitement
00:50:06.620 in politics
00:50:07.180 before my father
00:50:07.880 came into the race.
00:50:08.560 No one was excited
00:50:09.220 about Jeb Bush.
00:50:10.460 No one gave a damn
00:50:11.180 about Jeb Bush.
00:50:12.380 And now you watch
00:50:13.640 these rallies
00:50:14.180 where 30,000,
00:50:15.220 50,000 people
00:50:16.160 show up to these rallies.
00:50:17.280 People are excited.
00:50:18.060 And by the way,
00:50:18.420 a lot of those people
00:50:19.860 are young kids
00:50:20.540 who are engaged
00:50:21.520 in kind of
00:50:22.100 the democratic process
00:50:23.620 for the first time.
00:50:24.540 It's a beautiful thing
00:50:25.400 to witness.
00:50:26.440 We're talking to Eric Trump.
00:50:27.680 The book is
00:50:28.220 Under Siege,
00:50:28.980 My Family's Fight
00:50:30.000 to Save Our Nation.
00:50:31.360 It's available everywhere.
00:50:33.100 Eric,
00:50:33.480 you just talked about
00:50:34.200 your dad
00:50:34.640 and his unique sensibilities
00:50:36.240 when it comes to politics.
00:50:37.660 You're a builder.
00:50:38.800 You're a business person.
00:50:40.720 So is Jared Kushner.
00:50:42.380 So is Steve Whitcoff.
00:50:43.800 Obviously,
00:50:44.400 your dad.
00:50:45.740 How much do you think
00:50:46.840 being a business guy
00:50:48.180 made it possible
00:50:49.520 to get a deal
00:50:50.600 as opposed to
00:50:51.720 a straight politics guy
00:50:53.460 in the Middle East?
00:50:54.500 I love this
00:50:55.340 because dealmakers
00:50:56.980 look at solutions
00:50:58.400 or situations
00:50:59.360 and just try
00:51:00.260 to get to yes,
00:51:01.920 whereas it feels
00:51:02.860 like a lot of politicians
00:51:03.900 get bogged down
00:51:04.940 in things that don't matter.
00:51:06.760 How much do you think
00:51:07.500 business and deal making
00:51:09.000 really was the foundation
00:51:10.820 of what Jared,
00:51:11.780 what Steve,
00:51:12.260 and what your dad
00:51:13.160 were able to do
00:51:14.000 and how much do you see
00:51:15.120 that in your own world
00:51:16.740 from a business perspective
00:51:18.260 as looking at politics
00:51:19.440 as a series of deals
00:51:21.240 as opposed to
00:51:22.300 getting bogged down
00:51:23.480 in sometimes
00:51:24.260 these intractable issues?
00:51:26.920 By the way,
00:51:27.260 it's a great question.
00:51:27.840 I'm not sure
00:51:28.140 if I've ever gotten asked,
00:51:29.620 but it's 100%
00:51:31.240 being a dealmaker.
00:51:32.420 I mean,
00:51:32.540 listen,
00:51:32.900 Obama ran on what?
00:51:34.240 Hope, right?
00:51:35.720 I like hope.
00:51:36.560 Hope doesn't get you
00:51:37.280 anywhere in business.
00:51:38.860 You know what?
00:51:39.160 Hope gets you bankrupt.
00:51:40.700 You don't hope for something.
00:51:42.420 You go out
00:51:43.160 and you effectuate change,
00:51:44.360 right?
00:51:44.620 And that's what Jared
00:51:45.740 did so great.
00:51:46.460 That's what Whitcoff, 0.81
00:51:47.240 I mean,
00:51:47.460 Steve Whitcoff,
00:51:47.980 some of my closest friends.
00:51:48.800 I love him to death.
00:51:50.140 But I mean,
00:51:50.720 these,
00:51:51.080 you know,
00:51:51.720 and guys like me,
00:51:52.720 right?
00:51:52.900 I'm out of business
00:51:54.100 if we don't,
00:51:55.540 you know,
00:51:55.820 if we don't get results,
00:51:57.440 you don't get things
00:51:58.500 across the finish line,
00:52:00.260 you are out of business,
00:52:01.360 right?
00:52:01.540 Like that's what business
00:52:02.540 is about,
00:52:03.120 making the deal,
00:52:04.280 right?
00:52:04.480 Getting things accomplished,
00:52:05.660 getting things done.
00:52:07.500 Whereas Barack Obama
00:52:08.560 was about hope.
00:52:09.960 Hope isn't a strategy.
00:52:11.380 You know,
00:52:11.560 results are a strategy.
00:52:13.220 And that's what my father
00:52:13.960 demands.
00:52:14.920 He demands results.
00:52:15.960 Everything he does,
00:52:16.920 every word he says
00:52:18.020 is about getting
00:52:18.820 a result,
00:52:20.220 right?
00:52:20.560 You know,
00:52:20.840 and that's a calculated result.
00:52:23.000 Everything he does,
00:52:23.720 every press conference,
00:52:24.720 every meeting,
00:52:25.360 every call he makes,
00:52:27.300 every time he pushes
00:52:28.160 his cabinet,
00:52:29.040 everything he does,
00:52:30.360 every person that he appoints,
00:52:32.340 it's about getting results.
00:52:34.700 And that's what motivates
00:52:36.020 my father.
00:52:36.660 And that's what motivates
00:52:37.420 people in the business world.
00:52:38.680 And so I think that's why
00:52:39.800 all of a sudden
00:52:40.240 you had this kind of,
00:52:40.940 you know,
00:52:41.180 ragtag group of people, 0.94
00:52:42.240 once again,
00:52:43.580 you know,
00:52:43.820 who didn't know anything
00:52:44.520 about politics.
00:52:45.920 You know,
00:52:46.160 it might not have even known
00:52:47.140 that much about
00:52:47.700 Middle East peace,
00:52:48.320 but was able to go in there,
00:52:50.020 build relationships,
00:52:51.500 negotiate well,
00:52:52.500 get everybody to a table
00:52:53.680 and actually effectuate change
00:52:55.080 versus,
00:52:55.840 you know,
00:52:56.240 these career bureaucrats
00:52:57.440 who talk about how much
00:52:58.840 they know about foreign policy
00:53:00.020 and yet they're incapable
00:53:01.700 of getting anything done.
00:53:02.920 I mean,
00:53:03.060 how many more times
00:53:04.140 do you have to hear?
00:53:05.920 Do you remember in 2016,
00:53:07.020 2017?
00:53:08.080 Well,
00:53:08.260 Donald Trump does not know
00:53:09.420 anything about foreign policy.
00:53:10.540 It's like,
00:53:11.240 yeah,
00:53:11.340 they didn't know anything
00:53:11.940 about foreign policy either.
00:53:13.080 You know,
00:53:13.220 and guess what?
00:53:14.020 It's a really smart guy
00:53:14.960 who could figure it out
00:53:15.640 in about three and a half seconds,
00:53:16.680 bring people to the table
00:53:18.420 and actually get something accomplished
00:53:20.160 and,
00:53:20.460 you know,
00:53:21.740 it always makes me so happy
00:53:23.620 when I see him
00:53:24.240 just run circles
00:53:24.900 around these people
00:53:25.640 who claim to know something
00:53:26.600 about foreign policy
00:53:27.440 yet they haven't progressed
00:53:28.920 the ball in the last,
00:53:29.980 you know,
00:53:30.180 three decades.
00:53:30.800 Well,
00:53:31.640 it's been amazing to see
00:53:32.640 and especially to watch
00:53:34.000 a lot of your dad's critics
00:53:35.700 eat a hefty dose of humble pie
00:53:38.620 because of the huge win
00:53:40.180 in the Middle East.
00:53:40.660 So congrats to you,
00:53:41.440 congrats to your family
00:53:42.660 and to the president.
00:53:43.840 I have one last one for you,
00:53:45.400 Eric.
00:53:46.060 You and I are roughly the same age,
00:53:47.540 Clay's a little bit older,
00:53:48.720 but we grew up
00:53:51.580 with the same movies,
00:53:52.600 you and I,
00:53:53.140 Eric,
00:53:53.740 and your book is
00:53:54.440 Under Siege,
00:53:55.260 My Family's Fight
00:53:56.040 to Save Our Nation,
00:53:56.960 which is already number one.
00:53:58.040 Everyone should go get a copy of it.
00:53:59.200 And does the Steven Seagal,
00:54:01.400 by the way,
00:54:02.160 a vocal Trump supporter,
00:54:03.920 does Steven Seagal's
00:54:05.240 Under Siege
00:54:06.140 make your top 10
00:54:07.640 action movies
00:54:08.500 all-time list?
00:54:10.160 Yeah,
00:54:10.440 about 100%, right?
00:54:11.800 I mean,
00:54:12.040 Steven Seagal
00:54:12.840 is like a legend for us,
00:54:14.000 right?
00:54:14.320 As,
00:54:14.680 you know,
00:54:16.180 as was Jean-Claude Van Damme,
00:54:17.660 as you remember very well.
00:54:18.500 I mean,
00:54:18.620 my father and I used to watch
00:54:20.180 literally Bloodsport
00:54:21.280 every single weekend.
00:54:22.680 I mean,
00:54:22.820 we love that movie.
00:54:24.080 We watched that too.
00:54:25.320 You know,
00:54:25.520 it's Steven Miller's
00:54:26.340 favorite movie.
00:54:27.020 He told us that on the show.
00:54:28.000 Number one all time.
00:54:29.720 Buck,
00:54:30.120 you remember the Kumite
00:54:30.860 and everything,
00:54:31.620 right?
00:54:31.720 We love that.
00:54:32.240 Of course.
00:54:32.720 I mean,
00:54:32.860 how could you not,
00:54:33.940 you know,
00:54:34.140 you had Gary Busey,
00:54:36.120 of all things.
00:54:36.540 Gary Busey ended up being
00:54:37.380 on The Apprentice with us
00:54:38.180 for years.
00:54:39.020 He had Steven Seagal.
00:54:39.820 He was,
00:54:40.160 you know,
00:54:40.440 tossing people around
00:54:41.340 the Missouri.
00:54:42.740 Remember the battleship?
00:54:43.820 And,
00:54:43.940 you know,
00:54:44.440 it was a great movie.
00:54:45.840 But,
00:54:46.320 no,
00:54:46.700 never did I think
00:54:47.620 that would come
00:54:48.020 into a little,
00:54:48.660 you know,
00:54:49.060 fashion in my life.
00:54:49.960 I mean,
00:54:50.100 listen,
00:54:50.500 anybody roughly our age,
00:54:51.640 I'm 41,
00:54:52.200 anybody roughly our age
00:54:53.060 had seen Under Siege,
00:54:53.860 but they literally,
00:54:54.980 guys,
00:54:55.300 they put us under siege.
00:54:56.280 You know,
00:54:56.480 they tried to destroy us.
00:54:58.200 They tried to do
00:54:59.440 everything they could
00:55:00.220 to cut us off,
00:55:01.580 to silence our voice,
00:55:03.100 to bankrupt us,
00:55:04.560 to deprive us,
00:55:05.800 to weaponize the media,
00:55:07.080 to weaponize the government,
00:55:08.320 to weaponize the DOJ,
00:55:09.680 to weaponize every,
00:55:10.580 right?
00:55:10.960 To make up dirty dossiers,
00:55:12.860 to impeach him,
00:55:13.620 to go after,
00:55:14.480 you know,
00:55:15.140 I mean,
00:55:15.720 his Supreme Court justices,
00:55:17.180 his inner circle,
00:55:18.020 his family,
00:55:19.120 to try and screw up
00:55:20.040 his marriage,
00:55:20.840 to try and screw up
00:55:21.740 his family,
00:55:23.060 to try and steal
00:55:23.760 his businesses from him.
00:55:25.120 That is the definition
00:55:26.400 of a siege.
00:55:27.200 And the good news is,
00:55:28.080 and by the way,
00:55:28.480 they did that to all of America, 0.81
00:55:30.020 right?
00:55:30.280 They tried to go after,
00:55:31.480 you know,
00:55:31.760 Americans and mainly conservatives
00:55:33.360 vis-a-vis the IRS.
00:55:35.040 They went after their churches.
00:55:36.280 They went after their
00:55:37.060 religious institutions.
00:55:38.180 They went after their children.
00:55:39.860 They taught them
00:55:40.380 revisionist history.
00:55:41.460 They tried to,
00:55:42.060 you know,
00:55:42.440 confuse their gender identities.
00:55:45.420 This is the siege
00:55:46.380 that they put this country through,
00:55:47.660 and we won the siege,
00:55:48.680 guys.
00:55:48.980 We won it.
00:55:50.020 We won every aspect of it
00:55:51.440 based on the fact
00:55:51.960 that we had the most
00:55:52.480 resounding victory
00:55:53.460 in American political history,
00:55:55.560 winning the popular vote,
00:55:56.620 winning every swing state,
00:55:57.640 having every state
00:55:58.940 in the country
00:55:59.500 tacked to the right.
00:56:00.800 And so,
00:56:01.560 guys,
00:56:01.800 they put us all under siege,
00:56:02.800 and we won.
00:56:03.860 The greatest political movement
00:56:05.120 in the history
00:56:06.180 of this country won.
00:56:07.200 And so,
00:56:07.940 you know,
00:56:08.280 the book,
00:56:09.220 as ugly as some of the topics
00:56:10.520 are in there,
00:56:11.540 you know,
00:56:11.900 actually is beautiful
00:56:13.760 because you can beat
00:56:14.800 the mainstream media,
00:56:15.920 and you can beat
00:56:16.560 the weaponization of government,
00:56:18.120 and we can win
00:56:19.000 as a collective of Americans
00:56:20.100 who love this country
00:56:20.960 and love God
00:56:21.580 and love our Constitution
00:56:23.020 and love our flag.
00:56:24.380 And that's exactly
00:56:25.200 what we did together.
00:56:27.100 Amen.
00:56:27.760 Book Under Siege.
00:56:28.660 Encourage you guys
00:56:29.320 to go check it out.
00:56:30.020 Appreciate the time, Eric.
00:56:31.060 Look forward to crossing 1.00
00:56:31.720 paths down the road.
00:56:34.080 Guys,
00:56:34.480 thanks so much for having me.
00:56:36.640 Look,
00:56:37.040 we've had a phenomenal news
00:56:38.140 out of Israel
00:56:38.740 all week long.
00:56:39.700 You just heard us
00:56:40.200 talking about it
00:56:40.980 with Eric Trump.
00:56:42.100 You've heard us
00:56:42.420 talking about it
00:56:43.040 all week.
00:56:43.940 It's been incredible
00:56:44.780 to be able
00:56:45.700 to chase
00:56:47.100 and to see.
00:56:48.300 Lasting peace
00:56:48.940 is a great thing.
00:56:50.020 In same spirit,
00:56:50.780 it's worth mentioning
00:56:51.520 our longtime partners
00:56:53.060 and what they've been able
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00:57:22.480 I've seen for myself
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