Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck

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00:00:40.700 Welcome back in, Buck.

00:00:43.120 It is a day of reflection over Trump's remarkable accomplishments

00:00:48.240 alongside of his administration.

00:00:50.980 And I never would have believed the day,

00:00:54.480 but as I look down at the roster,

00:00:57.020 we have praise for Donald Trump from Stephen Colbert,

00:01:01.360 Jimmy Kimmel, Joe Scarborough,

00:01:04.140 and an incredible montage our team put together

00:01:07.660 of all different sorts of Democrats singing Donald Trump's praises.

00:01:13.560 I think this is, frankly, remarkable.

00:01:18.740 And I think it deserves all of the public acclimation.

00:01:22.660 We will run through some of those in a moment,

00:01:25.420 but I just wanted to hit you with this, Buck.

00:01:29.220 In the past 24 hours, listen to Donald Trump's schedule.

00:01:34.180 Remember, we went from my cousin,

00:01:37.480 I was going to say my cousin Vinny.

00:01:38.940 We went from Weekend at Bernie's.

00:01:40.580 Apologies to my cousin Vinny.

00:01:41.880 Great film.

00:01:42.680 Weekend at Bernie's presidency of Joe Biden.

00:01:45.040 They tried to run Weekend at Bernie's, too,

00:01:47.080 where they would hide him.

00:01:48.560 He could only do events from, like, 10 to 2.

00:01:51.940 Then they would hide him.

00:01:53.460 If they ever did any press availabilities,

00:01:56.000 they gave him note cards to call on members of the press

00:01:59.460 with pre-screened questions.

00:02:02.140 Listen to what Trump has done just in the last 24 hours.

00:02:05.660 He flew to Israel, spoke to the press there in Israel,

00:02:10.360 met with Israeli leaders, spoke to the press again,

00:02:14.380 met with families of the hostages,

00:02:17.060 delivered an hour-long speech to the Knesset,

00:02:20.060 that is basically the Israeli Congress,

00:02:22.540 did another interview, flew to Egypt,

00:02:26.140 met with the president of Egypt,

00:02:28.160 spoke to the press again,

00:02:30.040 took photos and chatted individually

00:02:32.240 with dozens of world leaders,

00:02:34.080 signed the historic Gaza peace deal,

00:02:37.380 delivered another speech,

00:02:39.300 met privately with world leaders,

00:02:41.740 flew back to the United States.

00:02:43.940 He touched ground publicly walking across the grass

00:02:47.480 of the South Lawn of the White House, I believe, Buck,

00:02:50.660 at 3 a.m.,

00:02:52.460 one of the most extraordinary 36 hours.

00:02:55.220 He took off at 3 p.m., 36 hours before,

00:02:59.760 went all the way to the Middle East,

00:03:01.040 did all of those things,

00:03:02.300 got back off the plane,

00:03:03.560 at 3 a.m.

00:03:05.220 and today is celebrating and awarding

00:03:08.280 to Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica,

00:03:11.880 the Presidential Medal of Freedom

00:03:14.620 for another public event.

00:03:18.140 For those of you who travel internationally,

00:03:20.940 and I imagine a lot of you out there

00:03:22.620 have done this at some point in time,

00:03:25.400 it is, Buck, you just did this,

00:03:26.700 you just flew to Taiwan and you just came back.

00:03:29.740 Traveling internationally

00:03:30.760 is one of the most draining things that you can do,

00:03:33.700 skipping across 12 hours of time zones,

00:03:36.600 all these different things,

00:03:38.120 for anybody no matter their age.

00:03:40.940 For a 79-year-old president

00:03:43.260 who has to be at the top of his game

00:03:45.220 delivering one of the most consequential

00:03:47.100 and I think well-delivered addresses

00:03:49.380 of his entire political career,

00:03:51.440 we're talking about superhuman,

00:03:54.860 extraordinarily unbelievable levels

00:03:58.560 of mental focus and energy

00:04:00.540 to be able to put all this together

00:04:02.040 for anyone.

00:04:03.160 Whether you are the CEO of a company,

00:04:05.340 whether you're working in construction,

00:04:07.760 whether you're a 22-year-old

00:04:09.380 listening to us right now,

00:04:11.180 that's an unbelievable 36 hours

00:04:13.460 of accomplishment

00:04:14.300 and coming on the heels of Joe Biden,

00:04:16.780 it is even more extraordinary,

00:04:19.680 I think.

00:04:20.320 What a 36 hours

00:04:21.760 President Trump just put together.

00:04:24.500 It's been fun just watching

00:04:26.080 all of the Trump adversary media

00:04:29.620 having to find ways

00:04:31.600 to package this for their audience.

00:04:34.940 Overwhelmingly,

00:04:35.960 they've taken the,

00:04:37.560 you know, he's terrible on,

00:04:39.320 they say a bunch of things

00:04:40.700 and then they go,

00:04:41.740 but I have to say,

00:04:42.880 this is pretty darn good.

00:04:44.160 And I don't think

00:04:45.660 that there could be any more obvious,

00:04:48.220 there could be no more

00:04:49.320 clear endorsement

00:04:51.120 of the massive victory here

00:04:52.540 than even Trump's biggest detractors,

00:04:56.540 at least in the media,

00:04:58.060 are having to say,

00:04:59.040 yeah, I think this is a pretty good one.

00:05:00.380 Here's a great example.

00:05:02.420 So, Clay, you'll remember

00:05:03.260 when I did the Bill Maher show

00:05:04.800 before this last election

00:05:06.080 and there were a lot of things

00:05:09.820 that were interesting about that.

00:05:10.840 One is I was like,

00:05:11.480 you guys are about to get

00:05:12.220 absolutely smoked in this election.

00:05:13.600 And the audience did not boo.

00:05:15.640 I think they knew that

00:05:16.780 things were not looking good

00:05:17.920 for them at that point.

00:05:18.720 It was, what, late September,

00:05:20.620 I think, before the election,

00:05:21.620 so maybe about a month ago.

00:05:23.820 And the other thing was,

00:05:25.600 I said to Bill Maher,

00:05:26.840 I think this was on camera,

00:05:28.200 but I definitely said it

00:05:28.800 to him off camera.

00:05:29.920 I said, you know that

00:05:31.760 he's really not going to destroy

00:05:33.260 the country and it's going to be fine, right?

00:05:34.780 I mean, you actually know that.

00:05:36.280 And I swear, he looked at me

00:05:37.440 and he said, I don't know that.

00:05:39.040 I don't know.

00:05:39.800 I think he actually might destroy America.

00:05:41.500 He seemed to truly believe that.

00:05:43.620 Well, Clay, here he is.

00:05:44.460 This is cut three,

00:05:45.960 having to face reality.

00:05:47.360 Play it.

00:05:47.880 I always say this.

00:05:49.220 You cannot ever deny success.

00:05:51.640 You just have to give your respect,

00:05:53.640 even if it's not your thing.

00:05:55.640 Have the humility

00:05:57.680 to give it up for enormous success

00:06:01.100 on any level.

00:06:02.460 I agree.

00:06:03.180 Trump, not my choice,

00:06:05.600 didn't vote for him,

00:06:06.700 but somehow.

00:06:07.680 But a lot of people did.

00:06:09.020 And he's,

00:06:10.300 I can't deny the success.

00:06:13.700 I can't either.

00:06:14.480 Yeah.

00:06:15.100 And he's the president.

00:06:16.180 And he's the president.

00:06:18.640 That's pretty much

00:06:20.160 where any honest,

00:06:22.180 left of center person

00:06:24.100 in this country

00:06:24.740 has to be right now, Clay.

00:06:26.040 You can't deny the success, guys.

00:06:27.960 It's there.

00:06:28.720 It's in front of all of us.

00:06:30.320 If Joe Biden had gotten

00:06:31.880 all of the hostages out of Gaza

00:06:34.060 and delivered a sterling speech

00:06:37.220 giving the virtues of freedom

00:06:40.500 and American leadership

00:06:41.740 and traveled and just run through

00:06:44.940 that 36-hour stretch,

00:06:46.680 he couldn't have done any of it.

00:06:48.220 Let's be clear.

00:06:49.520 And that's why you and me

00:06:50.480 and most of you out there

00:06:51.520 did not vote for Joe Biden in 2020.

00:06:53.960 Kamala Harris could not have done any of this.

00:06:55.860 And she's 20 years younger

00:06:57.040 than President Trump.

00:06:58.560 But if they had,

00:07:00.320 I would have come on and said,

00:07:01.240 hey, you know what?

00:07:01.780 This is a good result.

00:07:03.820 As I give credit,

00:07:05.220 Bill Clinton came out and said it.

00:07:06.760 Let's play this.

00:07:07.560 I mean, this is,

00:07:09.080 Trump is so successful now.

00:07:11.280 You and I have,

00:07:12.260 and we're going to sing Trump's praises

00:07:14.040 because we think he's having

00:07:15.020 the greatest presidency

00:07:16.540 of the 21st century.

00:07:18.080 I think we are in the midst.

00:07:20.120 I hope some of you take the time

00:07:21.660 to wake up and smile

00:07:22.860 and be grateful

00:07:23.820 for what we are all experiencing right now

00:07:26.720 because I think it's about

00:07:28.060 as good as it gets.

00:07:29.160 Here is a montage put together

00:07:32.540 of Democrats and left-wing media

00:07:35.020 giving Trump credit

00:07:36.400 for the Gaza deal.

00:07:37.800 This is cut seven.

00:07:38.880 This was very much

00:07:39.680 a peacemaker speech.

00:07:40.940 It's a terrific day

00:07:42.200 for the hostage families.

00:07:43.940 It's a terrific day

00:07:44.900 for President Trump,

00:07:46.680 for our national interests.

00:07:48.280 Do you give him credit for this?

00:07:49.900 Certainly.

00:07:50.620 I mean,

00:07:50.940 this is an incredible accomplishment,

00:07:52.840 an incredible moment.

00:07:54.000 President Trump deserves

00:07:55.120 a lot of credit

00:07:55.860 for bringing the parties together.

00:07:57.480 He should get a lot of credit.

00:07:59.080 I mean,

00:07:59.300 this was his deal.

00:08:00.280 He worked this out.

00:08:01.360 Listen,

00:08:01.580 he got the deal

00:08:02.120 across the finish line.

00:08:02.980 There's no question.

00:08:04.060 Things seem sort of possible now

00:08:06.180 in a way that they didn't

00:08:07.040 necessarily before.

00:08:08.300 A better future ahead.

00:08:10.080 That's what today represented.

00:08:11.620 It was so,

00:08:12.160 so powerful

00:08:12.560 and unbelievably emotional.

00:08:13.860 We would not be here

00:08:15.260 if it wasn't for Donald Trump.

00:08:18.000 Okay,

00:08:18.620 let me give you an idea

00:08:19.500 of who was saying all of that.

00:08:21.020 That's the Washington Post,

00:08:22.640 David Ignatius,

00:08:24.260 historian John Meacham,

00:08:26.900 Representative Adam Smith,

00:08:28.620 Democrat from Washington,

00:08:29.920 former Secretary of Defense,

00:08:31.460 Leon Panetta,

00:08:32.800 Senator Mark Kelly,

00:08:33.920 current Democrat from Arizona,

00:08:36.460 Jim Scutto,

00:08:37.480 I'm not sure how you pronounce his name

00:08:38.660 from CNN.

00:08:39.660 Schuto.

00:08:40.460 I don't watch a lot of CNN.

00:08:41.120 I also went to my high school

00:08:42.260 like Fauci did.

00:08:43.200 I know this because

00:08:44.200 these guys get big requests

00:08:46.900 to come back

00:08:47.500 and speak at Regis,

00:08:48.400 but yours truly

00:08:49.080 on the first or second

00:08:50.980 largest radio platform,

00:08:52.220 whatever in America,

00:08:53.420 not a lot of love

00:08:54.040 from the high school.

00:08:54.660 Keep going.

00:08:56.560 MSNBC's David Noriega,

00:08:58.460 Ted Deutch,

00:08:59.660 Democrat from Florida,

00:09:00.880 and Arab-Israeli negotiator

00:09:03.000 Aaron David Miller.

00:09:04.960 Also,

00:09:06.500 Stephen Colbert

00:09:07.260 even said,

00:09:09.480 cut nine,

00:09:11.300 Donald Trump

00:09:12.040 did something good

00:09:13.020 had to make a joke about it,

00:09:14.800 but cut nine.

00:09:15.840 Today,

00:09:16.320 thanks to Trump's

00:09:17.080 newly brokered ceasefire

00:09:18.160 in Gaza,

00:09:18.920 all living Israeli hostages

00:09:20.700 and almost 2,000

00:09:22.180 Palestinian prisoners

00:09:23.300 have been released.

00:09:26.620 Okay?

00:09:28.100 It's important.

00:09:29.300 Credit where credit is due.

00:09:30.640 Donald Trump

00:09:31.200 did something good.

00:09:33.180 Are we still canceled?

00:09:33.900 You sure?

00:09:40.500 I tried.

00:09:42.980 I tried.

00:09:44.820 All right.

00:09:45.620 Jimmy Kimmel

00:09:46.380 even said,

00:09:47.820 good work.

00:09:48.200 Now,

00:09:48.320 they got to make jokes

00:09:49.100 on the backside,

00:09:49.840 but they're actually

00:09:50.880 giving President Trump credit.

00:09:52.360 This is how successful

00:09:54.420 Trump has suddenly become.

00:09:55.840 He has united

00:09:56.480 Jimmy Kimmel

00:09:57.140 and Stephen Colbert

00:09:58.160 in praise.

00:09:58.980 Cut eight.

00:09:59.580 What a day for Donald Trump.

00:10:00.940 You know what?

00:10:01.540 He finally did something

00:10:02.500 positive today,

00:10:03.440 and I want to give him

00:10:04.040 credit for it

00:10:04.620 because I know he's not

00:10:05.260 the type to take credit

00:10:06.440 for himself.

00:10:08.140 Trump was in Israel

00:10:09.580 and Egypt today

00:10:10.820 to celebrate a ceasefire

00:10:12.380 between Israel

00:10:13.360 and Hamas.

00:10:14.320 All 20 Israeli hostages

00:10:15.960 are home

00:10:16.420 after 738 days.

00:10:19.320 Almost 2,000

00:10:20.980 Palestinian prisoners

00:10:22.820 and detainees

00:10:23.720 have been released,

00:10:24.620 and while we're only

00:10:25.280 in the first phase

00:10:26.300 of what will undoubtedly

00:10:27.240 be a long

00:10:28.160 and tricky process,

00:10:29.220 the fact is

00:10:29.740 the bombing has stopped,

00:10:30.900 the hostages

00:10:31.580 have been released,

00:10:32.380 and Trump deserves

00:10:33.100 some of the praise

00:10:34.240 for that.

00:10:34.800 And so I know

00:10:35.440 it sounds crazy to say,

00:10:37.360 but good work

00:10:38.060 on that one,

00:10:38.780 President Trump.

00:10:40.000 Now maybe you can

00:10:41.060 not invade Portland.

00:10:42.800 Just an idea.

00:10:44.480 Okay.

00:10:45.180 Like,

00:10:45.820 this is,

00:10:46.460 I understand they got

00:10:47.200 to slap him on the back

00:10:48.340 and make a joke

00:10:49.020 or whatever,

00:10:49.980 but the fact

00:10:51.540 that Colbert,

00:10:52.420 Kimmel,

00:10:52.860 CNN,

00:10:53.160 and MSNBC

00:10:54.280 are all lining up

00:10:55.720 for much of their day,

00:10:56.960 Buck,

00:10:57.200 and having to say,

00:10:58.720 President Trump

00:10:59.500 get a good job.

00:11:00.460 I do wonder

00:11:01.080 what their moron audiences

00:11:02.680 are thinking here.

00:11:04.300 You and I are not surprised

00:11:05.420 this happened,

00:11:06.300 but this is what we voted for.

00:11:07.760 We were right.

00:11:08.880 I would also add

00:11:10.300 that they're limiting

00:11:11.980 the praise

00:11:13.120 to getting the hostages back,

00:11:15.200 but the more comprehensive

00:11:17.160 deal here,

00:11:17.880 there's never been

00:11:18.420 anything like this

00:11:19.440 in media's peace negotiations

00:11:21.220 involving Hamas

00:11:23.100 involving the future

00:11:24.240 of the state of Israel.

00:11:25.380 I mean,

00:11:25.520 this is enormous

00:11:28.020 as a framework

00:11:29.240 for the Middle East

00:11:30.580 going forward,

00:11:31.400 and they're not saying that

00:11:32.700 because, Clay,

00:11:33.300 it's one thing to point out,

00:11:34.980 okay, fine,

00:11:35.640 he got the hostages back.

00:11:36.860 We all have to admit

00:11:37.680 that's good.

00:11:38.200 I would also note,

00:11:39.580 who was it?

00:11:40.140 I couldn't,

00:11:40.520 I can't remember,

00:11:41.200 but somebody said

00:11:42.000 2,000 Palestinian prisoners.

00:11:44.380 Those are detainees.

00:11:45.620 They're terrorists.

00:11:46.240 The New York Times.

00:11:46.720 That's a different thing.

00:11:47.560 The New York Times

00:11:48.240 called it a hostage trade

00:11:50.200 as if the criminals

00:11:52.340 that were under,

00:11:53.740 you know,

00:11:54.740 lock and key

00:11:55.540 were the same

00:11:56.220 as the hostages

00:11:57.040 that were kidnapped.

00:11:58.320 So,

00:11:58.880 I just want to note

00:11:59.700 that on the one side

00:12:00.680 you have civilians

00:12:01.860 who were kidnapped

00:12:03.480 at gunpoint

00:12:04.420 for no reason

00:12:05.880 other than the barbarism

00:12:07.120 and hatred of Hamas,

00:12:09.000 and on the other side

00:12:09.700 you have people

00:12:10.220 who were breaking

00:12:11.560 the Geneva Convention

00:12:12.520 in every way imaginable,

00:12:14.340 fighting as a non-established military,

00:12:18.420 killing civilians,

00:12:19.660 and all of the things

00:12:21.020 that you could point to.

00:12:22.480 Anyway,

00:12:23.160 but they are trying

00:12:24.440 to limit this

00:12:24.960 to the hostages

00:12:25.760 coming back,

00:12:27.140 and they're not,

00:12:27.960 what they're not willing

00:12:28.720 to say to their audience,

00:12:29.640 Clay,

00:12:29.820 even in these clips

00:12:30.580 for the most part,

00:12:31.320 some of the more news people

00:12:32.920 are alluding to this.

00:12:35.320 Aaron David Miller

00:12:36.140 is actually a sharp guy.

00:12:37.460 I know him from years back,

00:12:39.400 and he knows the region well.

00:12:41.760 There are people out there

00:12:43.180 who are lifetime policy wonks

00:12:46.660 who are saying

00:12:47.300 that part of it

00:12:48.860 is a huge breakthrough too,

00:12:50.220 and that's something

00:12:51.020 they won't say

00:12:51.760 on Kimmel's show.

00:12:52.960 They won't say

00:12:53.820 that Donald Trump

00:12:54.680 not only succeeded

00:12:55.700 as president

00:12:56.520 in getting these hostages back,

00:12:58.120 but Clay,

00:12:59.040 he has succeeded more

00:13:00.520 on Mideast peace

00:13:02.080 than Obama,

00:13:03.820 than Biden,

00:13:04.980 than Bush,

00:13:06.040 than Clinton,

00:13:07.160 than Reagan,

00:13:08.360 than go back,

00:13:09.280 then Carter.

00:13:10.420 Keep going back.

00:13:11.660 That they will not say.

00:13:14.120 Let me ask you this,

00:13:16.600 and I don't know,

00:13:17.440 I'm curious what your answer is.

00:13:18.880 We can talk about it

00:13:19.440 when we come back

00:13:19.980 because we're coming up

00:13:20.560 against a break.

00:13:21.880 How much do you think

00:13:23.100 the average American cares

00:13:24.800 or is paying attention

00:13:26.020 to what's going on

00:13:27.040 right now in the Middle East?

00:13:29.160 In other words,

00:13:30.340 does this move

00:13:31.740 Donald Trump's approval rating

00:13:33.700 in the United States

00:13:35.220 in any kind of appreciable way?

00:13:37.820 Or people like you and me

00:13:39.300 and all of our listeners

00:13:40.180 that are engaged

00:13:41.060 on a day-to-day basis

00:13:42.060 in the news

00:13:42.960 are aware of this,

00:13:44.400 but is this resonating

00:13:45.680 with your average dad

00:13:47.640 or mom sitting in a car line

00:13:49.300 picking up kids at school?

00:13:50.580 Is this something that matters?

00:13:52.580 I really don't think so

00:13:53.820 for the most part.

00:13:55.280 I think for the

00:13:56.320 Jewish American community,

00:13:59.660 especially because

00:14:00.640 we had Carol Markowitz

00:14:01.660 on yesterday,

00:14:02.100 she has family in Israel.

00:14:03.640 She has family

00:14:04.360 that are in the IDF,

00:14:05.360 so that is very noteworthy

00:14:09.400 for people that feel

00:14:10.500 a direct connection

00:14:11.360 to what's going on over there.

00:14:13.700 But day-to-day over here,

00:14:15.700 this will be swept up

00:14:17.520 in the broader news cycle

00:14:18.640 very quickly.

00:14:20.020 And I think there's nothing wrong

00:14:21.160 with leaving the diplomacy

00:14:22.680 to the diplomat,

00:14:23.920 well, in this case,

00:14:24.980 to Donald Trump,

00:14:26.060 the diplomat-in-chief,

00:14:27.940 and moving back to issues

00:14:30.480 here on the home front.

00:14:32.180 You know,

00:14:32.380 Trump has helped

00:14:33.800 clean that mess up

00:14:34.760 or bring that mess to an end.

00:14:36.560 Let's get our focus

00:14:37.360 back here at home.

00:14:38.560 There's no need for us

00:14:39.980 to have a split focus,

00:14:42.320 I think,

00:14:42.780 that takes away

00:14:43.780 from any of the initiatives.

00:14:45.240 And they're not.

00:14:45.760 The stuff with Portland

00:14:47.080 and Chicago

00:14:47.720 and the border

00:14:48.400 and trade deals with China,

00:14:50.280 that's all still underway, too.

00:14:52.160 This is a big news story

00:14:53.700 more than it is

00:14:54.600 a big Main Street story.

00:14:56.080 I think that's fair.

00:14:57.980 Good analysis.

00:14:59.460 Now we've got Zelensky

00:15:00.580 coming to the White House

00:15:01.460 on Friday.

00:15:02.980 Within that construct,

00:15:04.860 what is MSNBC and CNN

00:15:06.580 going to say

00:15:07.220 if Trump actually brings peace

00:15:09.140 between Ukraine and Russia, too?

00:15:11.720 Remember that scene

00:15:13.020 in Indiana Jones

00:15:14.700 and the Raiders of the Lost Ark

00:15:16.240 when they opened the ark?

00:15:17.100 The answer is going to be

00:15:17.680 100% for me.

00:15:19.280 But yes,

00:15:19.840 I'm not forgetting

00:15:20.480 any of those scenes.

00:15:21.760 It will be like that

00:15:24.300 at MSNBC

00:15:25.100 if Trump ends

00:15:26.100 the Russia-Ukraine war.

00:15:27.140 They will just melt.

00:15:28.300 There won't be anything left.

00:15:29.920 They will spontaneously combust

00:15:31.540 total protonic reversal.

00:15:34.220 I mean,

00:15:34.340 it'll be a total...

00:15:35.740 I don't know what they'll do

00:15:37.660 over there.

00:15:37.960 All right,

00:15:38.120 we'll come back

00:15:38.580 into this here in a second.

00:15:39.240 Did you say Raiders

00:15:39.820 of the Lost Ark?

00:15:41.060 Oh, yeah,

00:15:41.480 when they look at the ark.

00:15:42.640 Well, we have double...

00:15:43.820 I was thinking

00:15:45.080 when they drink

00:15:45.820 from the chalice

00:15:46.580 at the end.

00:15:47.320 Oh, that's the other one.

00:15:48.460 Yeah, there's actually

00:15:49.720 double ones, yeah.

00:15:51.520 I mean, it will be...

00:15:52.220 Lawrence O'Donnell's show

00:15:53.200 might be more like that

00:15:54.260 and whatever other shows

00:15:55.300 are on, like Chris Hayes

00:15:56.320 might be more like

00:15:56.920 the Raiders of the Lost Ark,

00:15:57.980 but people will melt

00:15:59.320 or evaporate in real time

00:16:00.780 if Trump actually does

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00:17:40.380 Not only did Trump

00:17:43.000 have a huge win yesterday,

00:17:44.540 as did really the whole

00:17:45.380 Middle East and the world,

00:17:47.000 the civilized world,

00:17:48.580 but there are some people

00:17:50.800 who have some bets

00:17:53.160 that they made

00:17:54.000 who should pay up,

00:17:55.540 I would think.

00:17:56.680 One in particular

00:17:57.580 over at The View,

00:17:58.860 Miss Alyssa Farah,

00:18:00.820 formerly of the Trump White House,

00:18:02.200 I might add,

00:18:02.660 first term.

00:18:03.840 It turns out that

00:18:05.100 she made a promise,

00:18:06.520 and I think she should be

00:18:07.420 kept with that promise, Clay.

00:18:08.360 Listen to this.

00:18:08.820 This is what you said on the air,

00:18:09.820 I don't know,

00:18:10.260 a couple of years ago.

00:18:11.320 If he gets the Israeli hostages out,

00:18:12.920 I promise I will wear

00:18:13.960 a MAGA hat for one day

00:18:14.980 on the show

00:18:15.360 and say,

00:18:15.860 thank you for doing it.

00:18:17.340 She'll knock it

00:18:18.420 right off my head.

00:18:19.240 You have to be able

00:18:20.580 to cheer for wins

00:18:21.380 when they happen

00:18:21.900 and then call out

00:18:22.980 relentlessly the wrongdoing.

00:18:25.480 I gotta say,

00:18:27.380 a deal is a deal.

00:18:28.680 A promise is a promise.

00:18:29.740 A bet is a bet.

00:18:30.600 Like, however you want

00:18:31.260 to put this.

00:18:31.880 I don't, Clay,

00:18:32.440 if you or I made a promise

00:18:33.500 to this audience

00:18:34.140 about wearing a hat

00:18:34.860 during the show,

00:18:36.060 we're wearing that hat.

00:18:36.900 So, the view has

00:18:38.380 to pay up here.

00:18:39.860 Totally.

00:18:40.360 If I had said,

00:18:41.360 if Joe Biden gets

00:18:42.080 the hostages back,

00:18:43.180 I'll wear a Biden hat.

00:18:45.360 This was last December,

00:18:46.460 to be clear,

00:18:47.040 but yeah.

00:18:47.600 Yeah, last December.

00:18:48.640 She said it after Trump

00:18:49.740 was elected,

00:18:50.340 but before he had

00:18:51.160 taken office.

00:18:51.960 This is a no-brainer.

00:18:53.260 A bet's a bet.

00:18:54.020 She should pay up.

00:18:55.340 Like, when Buck Island

00:18:56.220 went underwater,

00:18:57.140 you, even though

00:18:57.940 you had to get a snorkel,

00:18:59.000 you took me to

00:18:59.780 a fancy dinner

00:19:00.600 and we had a great steak.

00:19:02.360 I did.

00:19:02.900 True.

00:19:03.780 I owe Jesse Kelly

00:19:04.780 a Red Lobster outing.

00:19:06.500 I have not forgotten.

00:19:07.160 That's right.

00:19:08.240 That's right.

00:19:09.180 Falls, a busy time for kids.

00:19:11.080 I mean, you gotta get

00:19:11.520 all those Red Lobster dinners in.

00:19:13.160 They're not just back in school.

00:19:14.660 They're on sports teams

00:19:15.660 in the band,

00:19:16.320 theater practice,

00:19:17.180 part of the after-school club.

00:19:18.600 Trust me,

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00:20:10.080 Welcome back

00:20:10.540 into Clay and Buck.

00:20:11.560 Things getting spicy.

00:20:12.580 We mentioned The View.

00:20:14.280 A little bit of a back and forth

00:20:15.920 with the wife of RFK Jr.

00:20:20.400 and Sonny Hostin.

00:20:23.580 The most hostile member

00:20:25.000 of The View on all things.

00:20:27.420 I might just add.

00:20:28.080 She's just the most hostile person

00:20:29.680 on that show in general.

00:20:32.020 But she was hostile

00:20:32.700 with Cheryl Hines

00:20:33.560 is her name, right?

00:20:34.460 I know her from

00:20:35.700 the Larry David show.

00:20:37.580 Am I right?

00:20:38.000 That's her name?

00:20:39.020 Yes.

00:20:39.140 Oh, yeah.

00:20:39.700 Teen?

00:20:40.180 Yeah.

00:20:40.760 Making sure.

00:20:41.800 She's an actress.

00:20:42.860 She's married to RFK Jr.

00:20:44.100 So they had a bit of a

00:20:45.460 tete-a-tete.

00:20:48.360 And we shall discuss that

00:20:50.260 coming up here.

00:20:51.540 Also, I think it's

00:20:54.340 the biggest liberal podcast now.

00:20:56.840 Pivot.

00:20:57.240 You know this show, Pivot?

00:20:58.600 For libs.

00:20:59.460 If you're like a New York Magazine,

00:21:01.020 New York Times subscriber,

00:21:02.520 this and the New York Times podcast

00:21:05.240 are the two big podcasts.

00:21:05.860 Who is on the Pivot pod?

00:21:07.300 I don't know.

00:21:09.000 It is...

00:21:10.400 I forget her name

00:21:11.840 and Professor Galloway

00:21:15.080 from NYU Scott Galloway.

00:21:16.400 Oh, is it Kara Swisher?

00:21:18.240 Kara Swisher.

00:21:18.920 That's right.

00:21:19.460 Kara Swisher.

00:21:20.740 And she argued with me

00:21:22.360 about masks once online.

00:21:23.980 That's all I remember from her.

00:21:24.880 And she was wrong.

00:21:25.580 And I was right.

00:21:26.180 So apparently Buck is very smart.

00:21:27.660 And she should say,

00:21:28.480 I'm sorry that I was so wrong.

00:21:30.640 But Scott Galloway,

00:21:32.840 he actually said some very good things

00:21:34.400 on some topics, I will say.

00:21:37.600 But he weighed in.

00:21:38.720 We're going to get to his analysis, Clay,

00:21:41.060 of a possible...

00:21:42.400 He talked about a possible Kamala run.

00:21:44.860 And I think you'll be pleased to know

00:21:46.080 that this is something that the Libs

00:21:47.680 are discussing now

00:21:49.380 as a thing that may happen.

00:21:52.220 I want to hold everybody in suspense

00:21:53.660 over this one, though.

00:21:54.800 Well, also,

00:21:56.500 did you see,

00:21:57.560 and I love this,

00:21:59.260 Kamala wrote,

00:22:00.120 remember we had fun with this,

00:22:01.660 that Gavin Newsom texted her,

00:22:03.400 out hiking,

00:22:04.160 we'll call you back

00:22:05.160 when she announced that she was running

00:22:07.120 and then never actually called him back,

00:22:09.280 which was, yes,

00:22:10.780 I never called her back.

00:22:11.560 He ghosted the Democrat presidential candidate

00:22:14.920 for the entire campaign.

00:22:18.880 Yes.

00:22:19.840 Evidently,

00:22:20.320 did you see this follow-up to that?

00:22:22.980 After she wrote about it in...

00:22:26.020 This is amazing.

00:22:27.200 This actually...

00:22:28.020 I give Kamala credit.

00:22:29.700 Unlike Alyssa Faragriffin,

00:22:31.280 like I'll call balls and strikes here,

00:22:32.760 this is actually funny.

00:22:33.860 I thought it was funny

00:22:34.660 that Gavin Newsom never called her back

00:22:36.460 because he said he was out hiking.

00:22:38.680 Gavin Newsom was upset

00:22:39.820 that she wrote about that in the book.

00:22:41.560 And he texted,

00:22:42.780 this is the latest version of this book,

00:22:44.680 he texted Kamala and said,

00:22:46.560 well, you know,

00:22:46.860 I did post on social media

00:22:48.880 an endorsement for you

00:22:50.340 and you didn't include that in the book.

00:22:52.400 And Kamala Harris texted him back,

00:22:55.060 on book tour,

00:22:56.820 we'll call you back.

00:23:00.060 So he finally texted her

00:23:02.160 after a year of not commenting,

00:23:04.420 like, hey, with the link,

00:23:05.920 I did endorse you on social media,

00:23:07.960 this should have been in the book.

00:23:09.320 And Kamala Harris texted him back,

00:23:11.320 on book tour,

00:23:12.540 we'll get back to you.

00:23:15.000 So my point on this is,

00:23:17.620 they are really kind of going at it

00:23:20.980 in a very frenemy way

00:23:22.980 that suggests that they are aware

00:23:26.000 of being opponents

00:23:28.440 in the 2028 election.

00:23:30.440 And I don't think there's love lost here.

00:23:32.340 You know this,

00:23:33.140 sometimes politicians can go at it

00:23:35.300 in public

00:23:36.360 and actually like each other privately.

00:23:38.160 In other words,

00:23:38.900 it's a little bit of a public show.

00:23:42.380 I don't think Kamala and Gavin Newsom

00:23:44.380 like each other at all.

00:23:45.760 And I think they want the same thing in 2028.

00:23:47.820 I think they both want to run.

00:23:49.380 Before we got Eric Trump,

00:23:50.500 come up a little bit,

00:23:51.640 friend of the show,

00:23:52.440 son of the president,

00:23:53.420 entrepreneur,

00:23:54.720 business,

00:23:55.420 really business leader.

00:23:56.380 I mean,

00:23:57.240 entrepreneur also,

00:23:58.560 a whole bunch of things.

00:24:00.100 So we'll talk to him about

00:24:01.740 news of the day,

00:24:02.940 his father's legacy,

00:24:04.240 some of the things he's working on.

00:24:05.900 But this Leticia James situation,

00:24:10.040 Clay,

00:24:10.660 I think is quite interesting.

00:24:12.940 I read the New York Times

00:24:14.480 most recent

00:24:16.740 large piece on this

00:24:19.220 story they wrote on it.

00:24:21.040 And it is really a master class

00:24:23.600 in doing everything possible

00:24:25.920 to try to shift

00:24:29.100 the playing field,

00:24:30.720 the narrative

00:24:31.360 in favor of,

00:24:33.100 in this case,

00:24:33.560 the defendant,

00:24:34.400 Leticia James.

00:24:35.820 Right?

00:24:36.020 It's all,

00:24:36.580 oh,

00:24:37.320 I mean,

00:24:37.620 the storytelling,

00:24:38.620 it's really masterful.

00:24:39.960 You should go, Clay.

00:24:40.860 If you haven't seen this most recent one,

00:24:42.340 it's like,

00:24:43.100 there was a

00:24:43.940 small,

00:24:45.020 modest,

00:24:45.500 colonial house on a street.

00:24:47.400 The flutter of birds

00:24:48.680 in the background.

00:24:49.420 Children playing

00:24:51.740 at a nearby seesaw.

00:24:54.440 And somehow this is at the center

00:24:56.000 of a political,

00:24:57.780 you know,

00:24:58.060 it's like,

00:24:58.900 everything is fine.

00:25:00.480 It's,

00:25:00.660 you know,

00:25:00.780 this is just in the,

00:25:01.840 this is like Main Street America.

00:25:03.960 And then the mean Republicans

00:25:05.300 come along.

00:25:06.160 You can almost hear the,

00:25:07.380 the theme music

00:25:08.720 becoming angry

00:25:10.080 and,

00:25:10.500 and dissonant.

00:25:12.900 But,

00:25:13.920 Leticia James has got

00:25:15.480 a,

00:25:15.980 an issue here.

00:25:16.800 and that is

00:25:18.900 she not only

00:25:20.620 signed,

00:25:22.040 and this is all alleged,

00:25:23.280 of course,

00:25:23.680 right?

00:25:23.900 Because this is now before a court

00:25:25.360 and she has been indicted.

00:25:27.460 But the,

00:25:28.060 the simple facts are

00:25:29.060 she bought a home

00:25:30.080 and got preferential treatment

00:25:31.880 on the loan

00:25:32.500 for that home

00:25:33.300 because she indicated

00:25:34.280 that it would be

00:25:34.880 an investment property.

00:25:36.080 I own

00:25:36.880 a bunch of investment properties.

00:25:38.880 So I've been through this process.

00:25:40.540 Yes,

00:25:40.720 sir.

00:25:40.820 She said it was a second residence,

00:25:42.760 right?

00:25:42.940 I'm sorry.

00:25:43.440 Did not say it was

00:25:44.380 an investment property.

00:25:45.380 Wait,

00:25:48.760 that is,

00:25:49.500 I got to go back and check.

00:25:50.780 I think,

00:25:51.400 I think the way

00:25:52.420 she said it was primary,

00:25:54.500 but the,

00:25:55.320 so,

00:25:55.840 let's break it down.

00:25:57.260 She,

00:25:57.460 generally speaking.

00:25:58.100 She said it was a second home

00:25:59.260 for her?

00:26:00.780 I think she said it was a,

00:26:03.060 she was not going to be

00:26:04.640 renting it out

00:26:05.360 because when you rent out homes,

00:26:07.340 you know this

00:26:07.900 because you bought

00:26:08.460 a bunch of rentals.

00:26:09.420 When you're renting out a home,

00:26:11.200 the down payments

00:26:12.180 are higher

00:26:13.040 and the rates

00:26:14.020 you typically have to pay

00:26:15.840 are higher.

00:26:16.620 When you say

00:26:17.480 it is a primary

00:26:18.860 or secondary home

00:26:20.440 because you are

00:26:21.700 the occupier,

00:26:23.120 you then are able

00:26:24.640 to get

00:26:25.320 a preferential rate.

00:26:27.460 Yeah,

00:26:27.640 so here we go.

00:26:28.240 This is,

00:26:28.540 the indictment says

00:26:29.380 that while Ms. James,

00:26:30.500 I got this mixed up

00:26:31.480 in my head,

00:26:31.880 Ms. James indicated

00:26:32.960 to her mortgage broker

00:26:34.200 that she expected

00:26:35.620 to use the house

00:26:36.480 as a second home,

00:26:38.260 she had instead

00:26:39.040 used it as a rental property,

00:26:41.500 a rental investment property,

00:26:42.560 renting the property

00:26:43.340 to a family.

00:26:45.280 Now,

00:26:46.280 here's where it gets interesting

00:26:47.920 or here's what they're saying.

00:26:49.200 What she really did

00:26:50.940 is not rent it

00:26:52.980 and not use it

00:26:54.000 and this is where

00:26:54.560 the thing gets

00:26:55.220 a little bit more confusing.

00:26:56.780 She didn't use it

00:26:57.500 as a second home.

00:26:58.740 She moved

00:26:59.820 family members of hers

00:27:01.740 into the home

00:27:03.220 who then paid

00:27:04.840 either no rent

00:27:06.000 or so little rent

00:27:07.040 as to be

00:27:07.740 essentially

00:27:08.380 de minimis.

00:27:09.640 I mean,

00:27:09.760 it doesn't,

00:27:10.140 so she got

00:27:11.960 the home

00:27:13.660 as her home

00:27:15.220 because basically

00:27:15.780 then she's on the hook

00:27:17.280 for both mortgages,

00:27:18.440 her current home

00:27:19.200 that she lives in

00:27:20.120 and the secondary home

00:27:22.000 if she says

00:27:22.960 it's a second house

00:27:23.760 for her.

00:27:25.060 If it's going

00:27:26.440 to be something

00:27:26.960 that she rents out,

00:27:28.300 that changes

00:27:29.180 the equation

00:27:30.580 for the kind

00:27:32.260 of mortgage

00:27:32.580 she would get.

00:27:33.000 Sorry.

00:27:33.260 So, yes,

00:27:33.720 that is an important

00:27:34.340 point of clarification.

00:27:35.020 But what makes

00:27:36.220 this more complicated

00:27:37.120 is that she didn't

00:27:38.020 rent it out

00:27:38.700 and she didn't

00:27:39.700 use it as a second home.

00:27:41.040 She just used it

00:27:42.100 for nieces

00:27:44.040 of hers

00:27:44.940 to go and live in.

00:27:46.660 Now,

00:27:47.180 the interesting

00:27:47.840 part of this

00:27:49.180 is that

00:27:50.220 according to

00:27:51.280 a few reports

00:27:52.380 that have come out,

00:27:54.160 these nieces

00:27:55.000 or one in particular,

00:27:57.420 one of the nieces

00:27:58.180 is a convicted felon.

00:28:01.280 Now,

00:28:01.540 that

00:28:01.860 or

00:28:02.600 and I think

00:28:03.440 is wanted also

00:28:04.440 on additional charges

00:28:06.300 in another state

00:28:07.060 that creates problems

00:28:09.460 for you

00:28:10.100 in the mortgage process

00:28:11.820 or in the getting a loan

00:28:13.420 and getting

00:28:13.800 so it seems like

00:28:15.540 she may have

00:28:16.760 falsified

00:28:17.920 her loan application

00:28:19.540 in order to help

00:28:20.920 a felon relative

00:28:23.120 get a home

00:28:24.680 that that relative

00:28:25.620 would not have easily

00:28:26.780 been able to get

00:28:27.440 a mortgage for

00:28:28.400 and this is where

00:28:30.080 the preferential

00:28:30.900 loan amount

00:28:32.020 and they think

00:28:32.480 it's about $18,000,

00:28:34.120 $18,900

00:28:34.920 comes in.

00:28:36.500 Okay,

00:28:36.960 let me give you

00:28:37.660 my defense attorney

00:28:38.980 hat here.

00:28:40.640 All of those facts,

00:28:42.140 if I am her defense attorney

00:28:43.840 in a northern

00:28:44.820 Virginia courtroom,

00:28:46.440 here is what

00:28:47.180 I am going to say

00:28:48.180 about this.

00:28:49.300 And again,

00:28:50.100 I'm not saying

00:28:50.860 that this is my argument,

00:28:52.160 I'm saying

00:28:52.700 pretend you're a jury

00:28:53.820 and I am defending

00:28:55.060 Letitia James

00:28:55.860 and pretend the jury

00:28:57.260 is made up

00:28:57.980 70% of

00:28:59.580 Trump haters

00:29:01.200 30% maybe

00:29:02.860 of Trump voters

00:29:03.560 that might not even

00:29:04.280 be an exaggeration

00:29:05.400 but let's say

00:29:05.920 it's 70-30.

00:29:07.100 In other words,

00:29:07.920 there's 12 jurors

00:29:08.940 let's say

00:29:09.680 eight of them

00:29:10.280 are Kamala voters

00:29:11.820 and four of them

00:29:12.600 are Trump voters

00:29:13.260 just to roughly

00:29:14.140 kind of lay it out there.

00:29:15.660 Do you think

00:29:16.480 12 jurors

00:29:17.380 are going to convict

00:29:18.360 if her defense,

00:29:20.360 Buck,

00:29:20.640 which I think

00:29:21.200 it would be,

00:29:22.000 is

00:29:22.340 when I bought

00:29:23.480 this house

00:29:24.180 I intended

00:29:25.460 to use it

00:29:26.320 as a secondary

00:29:27.440 residence

00:29:28.200 to get away

00:29:29.000 from the stress

00:29:29.860 of New York City.

00:29:31.240 You Virginians

00:29:32.060 know how great

00:29:33.480 of an area

00:29:34.000 Norfolk is,

00:29:35.060 how amazing

00:29:36.180 it is to be able

00:29:37.300 to get away.

00:29:38.700 Then I had

00:29:39.820 some nieces

00:29:40.500 and family members

00:29:42.180 who were destitute

00:29:43.440 and out on the street

00:29:44.740 and I decided

00:29:46.380 because I had

00:29:47.020 comparatively more

00:29:48.280 that I allowed

00:29:49.360 them to move in.

00:29:50.640 I wasn't ever

00:29:51.360 planning this

00:29:52.220 but I just wanted

00:29:53.280 to extend

00:29:53.940 the hand

00:29:54.520 as an aunt

00:29:56.220 to family members

00:29:57.580 that needed help

00:29:58.520 and now they're

00:29:59.760 trying to prosecute

00:30:00.680 me for this.

00:30:01.560 If I could go back

00:30:02.280 and redo the mortgage

00:30:03.920 I would change it

00:30:04.880 to be more accurate

00:30:05.780 but life happens

00:30:07.120 and we adjust it

00:30:08.080 on the fly.

00:30:09.360 This is not intentional.

00:30:10.500 They're coming after me

00:30:11.220 because of my politics.

00:30:12.700 Would eight Kamala voters

00:30:14.140 vote to convict

00:30:16.020 if that is her defense?

00:30:18.300 No, I think that she's,

00:30:19.700 look, she's got

00:30:20.260 Abby Lowell

00:30:21.420 as her defense.

00:30:23.280 I don't think

00:30:24.300 he's even,

00:30:24.780 my guess is he's probably

00:30:25.700 not even going to charge her.

00:30:26.960 He's the kind of lawyer

00:30:27.640 who usually gets

00:30:28.320 mid to high

00:30:29.660 six-figure retainer

00:30:30.840 and gets paid

00:30:31.340 $1,000 an hour.

00:30:33.260 That's what a white-collar

00:30:34.780 defense attorney,

00:30:35.480 a top one,

00:30:36.060 I've known some of them

00:30:36.860 in New York.

00:30:37.280 I have a friend

00:30:37.620 who did this.

00:30:38.580 That's what they make.

00:30:39.620 They say,

00:30:40.540 you've got to give me

00:30:41.160 a quarter of a million

00:30:41.900 or a half a million dollar

00:30:42.880 retainer

00:30:43.440 and then $1,000 an hour.

00:30:45.260 Because criminal defense

00:30:46.820 clients,

00:30:47.800 as you may well understand,

00:30:49.280 are not great

00:30:50.200 about paying bills,

00:30:51.340 so usually you're like,

00:30:52.620 you better give me

00:30:53.300 a big retainer

00:30:54.360 because I'm not going

00:30:55.540 to be trying to track you down

00:30:56.620 if you get convicted

00:30:57.440 to get paid.

00:30:58.340 So that's the way

00:30:58.920 this game works.

00:31:00.060 Doing white-collar defense,

00:31:02.380 you know,

00:31:02.900 stock stuff,

00:31:03.940 frauds,

00:31:04.540 things like that,

00:31:05.720 you know,

00:31:05.920 healthcare fraud,

00:31:06.880 you generally are dealing

00:31:08.080 with clientele

00:31:09.060 that have some assets,

00:31:11.140 especially on the

00:31:11.740 Wall Street side of things

00:31:12.580 with insider trading.

00:31:13.900 So that's where

00:31:14.600 the high-dollar

00:31:15.220 white-collar defense

00:31:16.020 attorney is coming to play.

00:31:16.940 Okay,

00:31:17.160 so she's got

00:31:17.720 top-tier legal defense.

00:31:19.340 You raise a very good point

00:31:20.580 about the...

00:31:21.200 I thought that all along.

00:31:22.320 Look,

00:31:22.860 we've told everybody,

00:31:24.060 don't expect a conviction here.

00:31:25.260 Okay?

00:31:25.720 That doesn't mean

00:31:26.380 it won't happen

00:31:26.960 and we're not trying to...

00:31:28.420 I can't make a judgment

00:31:30.080 one or the other.

00:31:30.840 I'm not on this jury.

00:31:31.960 I don't know.

00:31:32.780 But it's not a slam dunk.

00:31:34.760 And to Clay's point

00:31:35.720 about the...

00:31:36.340 It's a grand-niece,

00:31:37.500 by the way.

00:31:38.360 Yeah.

00:31:38.620 Here, though,

00:31:39.160 is the additional component

00:31:41.760 of this.

00:31:42.620 The reports

00:31:43.180 that are out

00:31:43.900 that her grand-niece

00:31:45.460 has been living

00:31:46.700 rent-free

00:31:47.320 with her children there

00:31:48.500 and there are reports

00:31:49.700 that she,

00:31:50.560 the grand-niece,

00:31:51.280 is a fugitive

00:31:52.480 from North Carolina

00:31:53.740 and has violated

00:31:55.480 probation

00:31:56.200 and still has

00:31:57.500 a bench warrant

00:31:58.540 out for her.

00:31:59.820 That's what the reporting is

00:32:00.980 as I have seen it

00:32:02.400 as of this morning.

00:32:04.500 So,

00:32:05.840 the one thing that's...

00:32:06.900 You know,

00:32:07.080 you're right.

00:32:07.540 It's going to be

00:32:08.000 I was trying to help my family.

00:32:10.020 You know,

00:32:10.360 it was a rental property.

00:32:11.400 I just gave it to them

00:32:12.420 gratis,

00:32:13.400 but then,

00:32:13.940 of course,

00:32:14.200 that undermines

00:32:14.920 the risk factors

00:32:16.000 that go into the loan

00:32:17.040 process,

00:32:18.060 but still,

00:32:19.100 there might be

00:32:19.440 a bit of a tugging

00:32:20.120 on the heartstrings there,

00:32:21.320 but the fleeing fugitive thing

00:32:23.040 may be a little...

00:32:23.880 That may be a little bit

00:32:25.020 of also a problem

00:32:26.500 just because you're

00:32:27.200 the Attorney General

00:32:27.940 for the State of New York

00:32:28.940 and people might

00:32:30.240 not want to cut you

00:32:31.180 as much slack

00:32:31.960 for, you know,

00:32:33.620 playing around the edge

00:32:35.200 here a bit

00:32:36.040 when you're doing this

00:32:36.840 for somebody

00:32:37.300 that's also

00:32:38.060 a convicted felon

00:32:39.880 or might be

00:32:40.840 a convicted felon.

00:32:41.820 Let me also give you

00:32:42.740 a counter-argument.

00:32:43.820 I just gave you

00:32:44.520 what I think

00:32:45.020 the defense attorney

00:32:46.660 case argument

00:32:47.920 partly will be.

00:32:49.660 I believe this house...

00:32:51.580 Correct me

00:32:52.040 if I'm wrong,

00:32:52.740 crew.

00:32:53.080 I believe it was

00:32:53.840 $137,000.

00:32:57.560 That is the Norfolk...

00:32:59.280 And I know I sometimes

00:33:00.420 screw up the pronunciation

00:33:01.500 there.

00:33:02.340 Is it Nor...

00:33:02.920 I want to avoid

00:33:04.000 the curse word,

00:33:04.780 but I feel like

00:33:05.360 I'm supposed to pronounce it

00:33:06.460 like it's a curse word

00:33:07.360 at the end, right?

00:33:10.860 I'm not even going to say it

00:33:11.840 because I get in trouble.

00:33:13.180 So you guys

00:33:13.960 in that area,

00:33:15.560 let me know

00:33:15.880 how I'm supposed

00:33:16.260 to pronounce it.

00:33:17.000 But how many people

00:33:19.320 do you think

00:33:19.940 buy a secondary home

00:33:21.840 in this neighborhood,

00:33:24.560 I looked it up,

00:33:25.660 where a house costs

00:33:27.040 $137,000?

00:33:29.240 In other words,

00:33:30.140 most people

00:33:30.840 who buy second homes,

00:33:32.680 it's you're wealthy

00:33:33.840 and you are getting away

00:33:35.840 from wherever

00:33:37.140 you may live.

00:33:37.840 You go to a lake,

00:33:38.720 you go to a beach,

00:33:39.820 you go to the mountains,

00:33:41.640 and you're paying

00:33:44.080 a decent amount of money

00:33:45.400 for that second home.

00:33:46.980 I think the reality is

00:33:48.580 she bought this home

00:33:50.200 intending for

00:33:51.440 these grand nieces

00:33:52.680 or whatever they are

00:33:54.180 in relation to her

00:33:55.460 to be able

00:33:56.540 to live there.

00:33:57.560 I think she actually

00:33:58.600 intentionally lied.

00:34:00.760 So I think

00:34:01.840 the challenge on this is

00:34:03.280 if you're buying

00:34:04.320 a second home

00:34:05.020 and you are

00:34:05.660 Letitia James

00:34:06.440 and I think

00:34:06.820 she has like

00:34:07.320 a $600,000

00:34:08.500 or $700,000

00:34:09.660 place in the

00:34:10.480 New York City area

00:34:11.460 based on looking

00:34:13.100 at the images

00:34:13.660 of this house,

00:34:14.940 it's not like

00:34:15.440 she bought a farm

00:34:16.380 in a rural area

00:34:17.840 where it's different.

00:34:19.420 This is like

00:34:20.000 not that nice

00:34:20.880 of a neighborhood

00:34:21.580 in this area

00:34:23.840 of Virginia.

00:34:25.300 I think she bought

00:34:26.100 it intending

00:34:26.680 to put her family

00:34:27.640 members in this home.

00:34:29.140 So I think

00:34:29.800 she did lie.

00:34:31.160 Now,

00:34:31.380 she may defend

00:34:32.140 herself by saying

00:34:33.060 I thought I was

00:34:33.800 going to go kick it

00:34:34.560 in Virginia

00:34:35.400 and sit on the porch

00:34:36.560 and sip drinks

00:34:39.440 on the porch.

00:34:39.760 She's going to claim

00:34:40.440 that it was a change

00:34:41.360 in status that occurred

00:34:42.940 after the loan

00:34:43.920 and that that doesn't

00:34:44.780 go to her intent.

00:34:45.260 That's the best defense

00:34:46.160 she has.

00:34:46.940 What I'm saying is

00:34:47.860 if you actually

00:34:48.460 look at the facts,

00:34:49.620 if she had bought

00:34:50.300 some riverfront property

00:34:51.740 that's beautiful view

00:34:52.880 or she had bought

00:34:53.700 some farm,

00:34:54.740 why would she buy

00:34:55.500 this as a second

00:34:56.760 property?

00:34:57.820 Most people don't

00:34:58.520 buy second properties,

00:34:59.580 my point on this,

00:35:00.320 that are infinitely worse

00:35:01.900 than their primary

00:35:02.700 property.

00:35:03.580 You don't want

00:35:04.040 to go to vacation

00:35:04.940 or at least not

00:35:06.540 a different kind

00:35:07.480 of place, right?

00:35:08.300 Like, most people

00:35:09.180 aren't buying second

00:35:10.120 homes to go live

00:35:12.240 in a home that's

00:35:13.020 far worse than

00:35:13.920 the home that

00:35:14.440 they live in now.

00:35:15.320 Most people don't

00:35:15.860 buy second homes,

00:35:16.700 they're not wealthy

00:35:17.280 enough to do it,

00:35:18.000 understood,

00:35:18.840 but this was not,

00:35:20.240 she was buying this

00:35:21.120 for her family.

00:35:21.920 I think she

00:35:22.420 intentionally lied.

00:35:23.620 Now, I think

00:35:23.980 she'll defend herself

00:35:24.880 by saying,

00:35:25.620 oh, I didn't know

00:35:26.280 my family was going

00:35:27.060 to end up in these

00:35:27.760 dire straits here,

00:35:28.780 but I think the facts

00:35:30.180 actually don't support

00:35:31.220 that argument.

00:35:32.240 This is like the

00:35:33.260 old man rule that

00:35:34.560 I've instituted,

00:35:35.540 at least for myself,

00:35:36.340 which is if I'm going

00:35:37.280 to travel somewhere

00:35:38.180 for, like, leisure,

00:35:39.900 the bed has to be

00:35:41.060 about as comfortable

00:35:42.240 as my current bed

00:35:43.440 or else I don't want

00:35:44.180 to go.

00:35:45.160 Like, I used to do,

00:35:46.660 I used to rough it,

00:35:47.580 man.

00:35:47.980 I used to stay in,

00:35:48.840 you know,

00:35:49.020 I would go to,

00:35:49.520 like, when I was a

00:35:50.540 college kid,

00:35:51.280 I would stay in places

00:35:52.300 where, I mean,

00:35:53.740 heck, I stayed in places

00:35:55.720 where I wasn't even sure

00:35:56.700 my stuff was going to be

00:35:57.640 there the next morning

00:35:58.460 when I woke up, right?

00:35:59.280 I mean, that was just

00:35:59.820 the reality of it.

00:36:01.000 Now that I'm an old man,

00:36:02.060 I'm like, what's the

00:36:03.080 thread count?

00:36:04.520 Is it quiet?

00:36:06.020 Will they leave me alone

00:36:08.400 until at least 10 a.m.?

00:36:09.600 Like, I have very

00:36:10.440 different rules now

00:36:11.220 for vacation.

00:36:12.160 Well, I will just point out,

00:36:13.440 and all of you hikers

00:36:14.460 out there are going

00:36:15.000 to get angry at me,

00:36:17.040 the wilderness has houses

00:36:18.860 and hotels near it.

00:36:21.560 I don't mind.

00:36:22.700 Like, it's great.

00:36:23.500 Oh, man, Clay's going

00:36:24.000 after you campers out there.

00:36:25.520 Clay is a city kid at heart.

00:36:27.520 Yeah, not even a city.

00:36:28.260 Like, I'm fine.

00:36:29.300 Like, I'll go on a hike.

00:36:30.980 I will go canoeing.

00:36:33.580 I will go.

00:36:34.720 I'm not really that excited

00:36:36.140 about putting up a tent

00:36:37.140 and sleeping on the ground.

00:36:38.980 Now, we are very simpatico

00:36:41.780 on this one,

00:36:42.180 and I grew up doing that

00:36:43.200 because my dad liked to do it,

00:36:44.840 and I did not like

00:36:46.240 sleeping on the ground.

00:36:47.200 I like beds.

00:36:48.600 I like beds.

00:36:49.080 I like refrigerators,

00:36:50.680 air conditioning.

00:36:51.180 Every wilderness

00:36:51.860 has air conditioning.

00:36:54.100 Every wilderness near it,

00:36:55.560 not necessarily in itself.

00:36:57.520 There's always a place to sleep

00:36:59.400 where you can still

00:37:00.300 experience the wild.

00:37:02.120 And so I am a,

00:37:03.300 let's go,

00:37:03.900 let's experience the wild,

00:37:05.280 but then let's return to a bed.

00:37:07.680 You know,

00:37:07.960 humanity has evolved

00:37:09.140 so that we do not have to

00:37:10.660 sleep on the floors,

00:37:11.560 and I think we just

00:37:13.180 should intentionally do so.

00:37:14.500 We both like glamping,

00:37:16.720 and about half of our audience

00:37:19.180 right now is pulling our man cards.

00:37:20.880 So I think that just happened.

00:37:22.280 I think we both were on

00:37:23.700 temporary man card restriction

00:37:25.140 here on the show, Clay,

00:37:26.700 because we see eye to eye

00:37:29.020 on this one.

00:37:29.500 I am not,

00:37:30.380 I don't want to go anywhere

00:37:31.480 where people are like,

00:37:32.940 you might get eaten

00:37:33.700 by the wildlife too bad.

00:37:35.420 You know,

00:37:35.680 you're visiting them.

00:37:36.720 It's like,

00:37:37.380 I'm not into that.

00:37:38.920 I want to at least be able

00:37:39.960 to like get in my car

00:37:40.860 and leave.

00:37:42.200 In fact,

00:37:42.840 we had dinner with your dad

00:37:43.940 recently,

00:37:44.340 and you and your brother

00:37:45.160 were talking about

00:37:46.060 being abandoned in the,

00:37:47.520 in the wilds of Alaska

00:37:48.780 with them on a trip.

00:37:49.900 The grizzly bears all around us,

00:37:52.020 and they're like,

00:37:52.420 we may not be able

00:37:52.880 to get you guys out.

00:37:53.600 You might have to sleep here.

00:37:54.440 We had nothing.

00:37:55.120 We were just going to sleep

00:37:55.940 on the riverbank overnight

00:37:57.460 because we got dropped

00:37:58.320 in by helicopter,

00:37:59.120 and the helicopter

00:37:59.780 couldn't retrieve us,

00:38:00.760 and we were freezing

00:38:01.580 and had no food.

00:38:02.840 That was a quote,

00:38:05.000 vacation.

00:38:06.800 Okay?

00:38:07.700 Ten years ago,

00:38:08.620 that was my vacation.

00:38:10.920 Hopefully you don't get eaten

00:38:11.700 by bears in the middle

00:38:12.480 of the night, boys.

00:38:13.280 My dad, by the way,

00:38:13.960 loves that stuff.

00:38:14.820 He's like,

00:38:15.120 you never feel as alive

00:38:16.140 as when you think

00:38:16.740 you're going to lose

00:38:17.600 the battle with Mother Nature.

00:38:18.940 Like, he loves that stuff.

00:38:20.100 I have no interest.

00:38:21.600 Hikers and campers

00:38:23.420 are right now

00:38:24.320 just furiously

00:38:25.540 from their

00:38:27.640 car-mart jackets

00:38:28.720 lighting us up right now.

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00:40:25.100 Welcome back in.

00:40:26.600 Welcome back in.

00:40:27.680 Hour number three.

00:40:28.580 Clay Travis,

00:40:29.520 Buck Sexton Show.

00:40:30.940 Appreciate all of you

00:40:32.300 hanging out with us

00:40:33.180 as we are rolling through,

00:40:34.360 breaking down

00:40:34.840 all of the news

00:40:36.060 of the day.

00:40:36.800 And we are joined now

00:40:37.800 by our friend Eric Trump.

00:40:39.860 He's got a brand new book

00:40:40.980 out today.

00:40:42.000 It's called Under Siege.

00:40:43.640 It is burning up

00:40:44.720 the bestseller ranks.

00:40:46.020 I think I saw it posted

00:40:47.100 that it is the number one

00:40:48.100 release on Amazon today,

00:40:50.260 which is a super impressive

00:40:52.200 accomplishment already.

00:40:53.640 And we'll get into the book

00:40:54.680 in a minute, Eric,

00:40:55.980 but we appreciate you

00:40:56.560 coming on with us.

00:40:58.180 Having said that,

00:40:59.260 we'll get to the book,

00:41:00.180 but are you still

00:41:01.300 kind of processing

00:41:02.120 how incredible

00:41:03.100 what yesterday was like

00:41:05.600 in the Middle East

00:41:06.840 and your dad having

00:41:08.280 the 36 hours

00:41:10.160 that he had

00:41:11.080 where even as we

00:41:12.060 started off the show,

00:41:13.180 MSNBC, CNN,

00:41:15.240 heck, Colbert and Kimmel

00:41:16.540 came out and said,

00:41:18.300 hey, he did something

00:41:19.160 really impressive.

00:41:19.960 You know when MSNBC,

00:41:21.440 CNN,

00:41:21.840 and the late night hosts

00:41:22.720 are praising you

00:41:23.940 that your dad must have

00:41:25.300 really accomplished something.

00:41:26.600 What was that like

00:41:27.360 for you to watch?

00:41:29.260 Well, guys,

00:41:29.900 a year ago,

00:41:30.260 he was literally

00:41:30.660 serving French fries

00:41:31.380 at McDonald's

00:41:31.960 and now he just served

00:41:32.700 Middle East.

00:41:34.860 Literally,

00:41:35.460 it was exactly

00:41:35.960 a year ago yesterday

00:41:37.240 he was doing

00:41:37.840 the French fries routine

00:41:38.720 and riding around

00:41:40.200 in a garbage truck

00:41:41.100 and he just solves

00:41:42.140 Middle East for peace

00:41:43.000 and I think the most

00:41:43.880 impressive part to me,

00:41:45.020 listen,

00:41:45.260 you look at almost

00:41:46.180 at every conflict

00:41:46.920 around the world,

00:41:47.560 whether it's World War I,

00:41:48.740 World War II,

00:41:49.380 Vietnam,

00:41:49.980 Korea,

00:41:50.900 you had kind of a winner

00:41:51.880 and you had a loser

00:41:52.480 of those wars

00:41:53.500 as predetermined

00:41:54.760 and here it actually

00:41:55.960 feels like everybody won.

00:41:57.200 You have people

00:41:58.060 on both sides

00:41:58.540 of the conflict

00:41:58.960 coming out

00:41:59.460 and thanking him

00:42:00.440 profusely

00:42:01.900 for ending the madness,

00:42:03.880 ending the death

00:42:04.980 and destruction

00:42:05.940 and then you have

00:42:06.960 an entire world

00:42:07.600 that's kind of

00:42:07.980 coalesced around

00:42:08.860 this victory

00:42:09.420 and I just think

00:42:10.000 that's a really

00:42:10.440 beautiful thing

00:42:11.540 and one of those

00:42:12.080 things that only

00:42:12.840 he could pull off

00:42:14.100 and I'm proud.

00:42:15.760 I'm proud of him

00:42:16.280 as a son.

00:42:16.840 I mean,

00:42:17.380 listen,

00:42:17.760 we're going to talk

00:42:18.320 about the siege

00:42:18.840 at some point today

00:42:19.960 but everything

00:42:21.460 that we've gone through,

00:42:23.220 everything that they

00:42:23.820 tried to do

00:42:24.360 to destroy us,

00:42:25.300 guys,

00:42:26.060 it all became worth it

00:42:27.340 for me yesterday,

00:42:28.580 right?

00:42:28.840 I mean,

00:42:29.320 there were times

00:42:30.140 when you couldn't

00:42:30.880 quite get there,

00:42:33.200 right?

00:42:33.740 Was it worth it?

00:42:34.740 Was it not?

00:42:35.380 It was brutal.

00:42:35.980 They tried to destroy

00:42:36.940 your life

00:42:37.520 and then you see

00:42:38.680 a man up there

00:42:39.440 with the entire world

00:42:40.660 respecting America,

00:42:42.440 you know,

00:42:42.680 the death and destruction

00:42:44.260 and evilness

00:42:45.440 has ended.

00:42:47.140 Conflicts all over

00:42:47.820 the world

00:42:48.260 are ending,

00:42:49.180 you know,

00:42:49.360 peace is being brought,

00:42:50.360 you know,

00:42:50.640 some son will go back

00:42:52.100 to their mother tonight

00:42:53.140 who would have otherwise

00:42:54.440 not gone back.

00:42:55.320 She would have been

00:42:55.680 finding out that

00:42:56.300 that person was dead

00:42:57.400 had it not been

00:42:58.520 for his actions

00:42:59.360 and I think that

00:43:00.440 makes this all worth it.

00:43:01.260 The book is

00:43:02.660 Under Siege,

00:43:03.260 My Family's Fight

00:43:04.060 to Save Our Nation.

00:43:05.120 We're with Eric Trump

00:43:05.880 now talking about it

00:43:07.540 and Eric,

00:43:08.800 I have a long-time

00:43:10.320 law enforcement friend

00:43:11.380 who,

00:43:11.980 he's a big Trump supporter

00:43:13.460 and as the whole

00:43:15.460 situation was playing out,

00:43:17.520 the effort to use

00:43:20.520 unprecedented lawfare,

00:43:22.340 not just against your dad

00:43:23.540 as you have pointed out

00:43:24.680 before,

00:43:25.300 against the Trump organization,

00:43:26.880 against Trump family members,

00:43:28.280 against all of you,

00:43:29.120 really anyone named Trump

00:43:30.140 became a target.

00:43:32.720 As you're going through that,

00:43:34.020 he kept saying,

00:43:35.420 a normal,

00:43:36.280 and by this I just mean

00:43:37.100 an everyday,

00:43:37.800 an everyday person

00:43:38.820 would be broken

00:43:40.240 by one federal indictment,

00:43:42.840 meaning,

00:43:43.380 oh my gosh,

00:43:44.440 how will I ever be able

00:43:45.440 to fight this

00:43:46.220 and what is going to do

00:43:48.160 to my reputation?

00:43:49.440 Your dad and your family

00:43:50.660 are going through

00:43:51.220 four nonsense

00:43:53.240 criminal indictments

00:43:54.480 and some of the civil stuff

00:43:56.180 that you are having

00:43:56.780 to deal with,

00:43:57.460 including from Letitia James,

00:43:58.780 which we were just discussing

00:43:59.660 her situation.

00:44:01.000 What was that like

00:44:02.100 day in and day out?

00:44:03.180 Did it just feel surreal?

00:44:04.580 Did it feel like your dad

00:44:05.740 was prepared for it

00:44:07.480 and was able to be

00:44:08.820 a happy warrior

00:44:09.580 through the whole thing?

00:44:10.660 I mean,

00:44:10.780 bring us into that.

00:44:12.900 Yeah,

00:44:13.240 well,

00:44:13.460 listen,

00:44:14.000 honestly,

00:44:15.000 I was the tip of the spear

00:44:16.300 with that whole thing.

00:44:17.000 My father had certain

00:44:18.000 constitutional protections

00:44:19.020 that kept a lot of the subpoenas

00:44:20.660 away from him,

00:44:21.460 and so guess what they did?

00:44:23.040 At 33 years old,

00:44:24.040 he sat me down,

00:44:24.580 he goes,

00:44:24.820 honey,

00:44:24.940 I want you to run the company.

00:44:26.240 You're the guy,

00:44:27.060 you love real estate,

00:44:28.340 you love building,

00:44:29.020 you love everything we do,

00:44:30.220 you've built so many

00:44:30.880 of our projects,

00:44:31.580 you run everything,

00:44:32.200 you run our teams.

00:44:33.280 I want you to carry this forward

00:44:34.520 because obviously I'm going

00:44:35.180 to Washington, D.C.,

00:44:35.880 and I said,

00:44:36.200 no problem,

00:44:36.880 and guys,

00:44:37.460 I thought I was going

00:44:37.920 to have this great time.

00:44:39.160 Again,

00:44:39.580 building hotels,

00:44:40.260 running a great organization,

00:44:41.020 I never would have thought

00:44:41.900 that 99% of my time

00:44:43.260 for a period of four years,

00:44:44.700 really a period of eight years,

00:44:45.860 was going to be

00:44:46.500 dealing with subpoenas.

00:44:48.060 I became the most subpoenaed person

00:44:49.280 in American history

00:44:50.060 simply because I was the conduit

00:44:51.740 to everything that he had ever built

00:44:53.840 because I was the guy

00:44:54.740 running the organization

00:44:55.760 that had Trump on the front door,

00:44:59.040 and so they came after us mercilessly,

00:45:00.800 and thank God we had two things.

00:45:01.960 We had a loud voice,

00:45:03.280 and we had enough zeros

00:45:04.140 on the back of our name

00:45:05.080 that we could literally spend them.

00:45:06.820 And guys,

00:45:07.680 I've said this plain,

00:45:08.480 we've spent about $400 million

00:45:10.660 fighting off the lunatics,

00:45:12.060 and this is the dirty dossiers,

00:45:14.040 this is the made-up Russia collusion.

00:45:15.740 I was the guy that got the call

00:45:16.900 from the FBI saying,

00:45:18.580 I hear you have secret servers

00:45:19.640 in the basement of Trump Tower

00:45:20.840 communicating directly

00:45:22.320 with the Kremlin.

00:45:22.860 We didn't have servers

00:45:23.980 in the basement of the Trump Tower.

00:45:25.200 It was all a lie.

00:45:26.340 It was all made up by Hillary Clinton.

00:45:28.000 It was all made up by Barack Obama.

00:45:30.140 We didn't have damn servers,

00:45:31.540 but they wanted to put us under siege, right?

00:45:33.680 They needed a reason.

00:45:35.700 You know,

00:45:35.840 they wanted their October surprise,

00:45:37.460 obviously,

00:45:37.980 to get, you know,

00:45:38.540 Hillary three more votes,

00:45:39.680 but then when she failed

00:45:41.080 so miserably against,

00:45:42.900 you know,

00:45:43.220 a bunch of ragtag individuals

00:45:45.040 who didn't know a damn thing

00:45:46.220 about politics,

00:45:47.000 i.e. our family,

00:45:48.880 she needed a reason

00:45:49.800 to justify her loss.

00:45:51.600 Hence the reason

00:45:52.720 they made this up

00:45:53.440 and they wanted to have this,

00:45:54.600 you know,

00:45:54.840 the shadow loom over my father

00:45:56.500 the entire time.

00:45:57.860 They wanted the shadow government

00:45:59.240 to try and take him down

00:46:00.340 at every single step of the way.

00:46:01.980 And then they leaked

00:46:02.860 his tax returns.

00:46:03.800 I mean,

00:46:03.940 not only did they leak

00:46:04.700 my father's tax returns,

00:46:05.620 every tax return he had,

00:46:06.820 this is the IRS,

00:46:07.920 they leaked all my tax returns,

00:46:09.280 they leaked Don's tax returns,

00:46:10.520 the entire family.

00:46:11.940 You know,

00:46:12.080 then they leaked

00:46:12.540 all the tax returns

00:46:13.300 of all the employees,

00:46:14.220 all our corporate employees.

00:46:15.880 You know,

00:46:16.040 then they silenced us,

00:46:17.340 they took us off of Facebook

00:46:18.300 and Twitter and Instagram,

00:46:19.880 then they gag ordered us.

00:46:21.460 A lot of times

00:46:21.980 you'd see me speaking

00:46:22.860 on the front steps

00:46:23.620 of the,

00:46:24.060 you know,

00:46:24.320 of the courthouses

00:46:25.100 around the country.

00:46:26.460 Why?

00:46:26.820 Because some of those cases

00:46:27.800 I wasn't gag ordered in,

00:46:29.080 but my father was,

00:46:29.960 and so I had to be the person

00:46:30.960 to go out and talk about,

00:46:32.040 you know,

00:46:32.880 the judge's daughter

00:46:33.780 who,

00:46:34.380 you know,

00:46:34.620 apparently works for the,

00:46:35.820 you know,

00:46:36.100 Democratic Party

00:46:36.780 and is one of the biggest,

00:46:38.280 you know,

00:46:38.860 digital media people

00:46:40.000 in New York State

00:46:40.940 while her father

00:46:41.740 is presiding over

00:46:42.620 a trial against my father,

00:46:44.260 right?

00:46:44.580 And then they take them

00:46:45.140 off the ballot of Maine.

00:46:46.180 They take them off

00:46:46.680 the ballot of Colorado.

00:46:48.100 They do everything they can.

00:46:49.620 They call up every bank

00:46:50.960 and they try and get us

00:46:51.700 de-platformed,

00:46:52.480 de-banked.

00:46:53.440 I mean,

00:46:53.640 guys,

00:46:53.960 this was a non-stop siege

00:46:56.420 against our family,

00:46:57.340 but it wasn't just

00:46:57.920 against our family.

00:46:58.620 It was against

00:46:59.000 the Republican Party.

00:46:59.920 It was against you guys.

00:47:01.500 It was against everybody,

00:47:02.460 everybody who wanted

00:47:03.140 free speech.

00:47:04.220 They tried,

00:47:04.880 they tried to hold

00:47:05.780 all of us down.

00:47:06.580 They tried to take away

00:47:07.400 our voice.

00:47:07.940 They wanted to destroy

00:47:08.780 the greatest political movement,

00:47:10.380 you know,

00:47:11.120 ever made.

00:47:11.760 And it's really amazing

00:47:13.340 that we can be sitting here

00:47:14.380 exactly one year later,

00:47:15.720 one year after those

00:47:16.640 court trials

00:47:17.260 and everything else,

00:47:18.480 having been vindicated

00:47:19.440 in all of them,

00:47:20.600 seeing what's happening

00:47:21.320 to Letitia,

00:47:22.720 seeing Letitia's case

00:47:24.340 get thrown out,

00:47:25.260 literally 5-0

00:47:26.200 by the appellate court,

00:47:27.820 seeing Middle East peace,

00:47:29.020 seeing, you know,

00:47:29.600 inflation go down

00:47:30.820 to nothing,

00:47:31.460 energy prices go down

00:47:32.480 to nothing.

00:47:33.860 You know,

00:47:34.100 I mean,

00:47:34.700 like what vindication

00:47:36.240 this is after everything

00:47:37.920 that we've been through.

00:47:38.760 And I just wanted to ask

00:47:40.640 as a follow-up,

00:47:41.600 Eric,

00:47:41.880 it's amazing to me

00:47:43.180 to see what your dad

00:47:45.280 has gone through

00:47:46.500 and just observing him

00:47:49.200 in public.

00:47:49.900 Also,

00:47:50.160 we've,

00:47:50.460 Clay and I have been fortunate

00:47:51.160 to spend a fair amount

00:47:51.940 of time with him

00:47:52.640 in interviews

00:47:53.440 and,

00:47:53.900 you know,

00:47:54.420 in a person-to-person,

00:47:56.420 face-to-face setting.

00:47:57.680 Your dad,

00:47:58.600 I have never seen him

00:47:59.920 look scared once.

00:48:02.480 And this is somebody

00:48:03.340 who was shot in the ear

00:48:04.400 and somebody else

00:48:05.140 tried to shoot

00:48:05.820 soon after.

00:48:06.460 And that is,

00:48:08.340 it almost seems superhuman

00:48:10.020 to a lot of us observing

00:48:11.200 and I truly mean that.

00:48:13.500 He is superhuman.

00:48:14.800 But guys,

00:48:15.240 this guy I've known

00:48:15.760 my entire life,

00:48:16.500 I mean,

00:48:16.640 he's always been

00:48:17.120 this Energizer bunny,

00:48:18.620 you know,

00:48:18.920 on steroids,

00:48:19.680 wearing a red tie,

00:48:20.520 right,

00:48:20.820 and a dark suit.

00:48:21.900 That's always been my father.

00:48:22.980 Everything that he's ever

00:48:24.920 wanted to do,

00:48:25.580 he's always,

00:48:25.860 you know,

00:48:26.180 he's always charged

00:48:26.880 and it's his only focus.

00:48:28.440 He becomes,

00:48:29.060 people don't realize,

00:48:29.860 he becomes very myopically

00:48:30.920 focused on whatever

00:48:31.720 he wants to do.

00:48:32.500 If it's building

00:48:32.920 the greatest building,

00:48:33.760 he becomes myopically

00:48:34.680 focused on it.

00:48:35.480 If it's building

00:48:35.820 a great course,

00:48:36.320 he becomes myopically

00:48:37.680 focused on it.

00:48:38.500 His real estate career,

00:48:39.580 if it was The Apprentice,

00:48:40.300 he becomes myopically

00:48:41.240 focused on it.

00:48:42.500 Well,

00:48:42.640 he did the same thing

00:48:43.500 with politics.

00:48:44.460 I mean,

00:48:44.560 he just did this turn

00:48:45.640 and just dedicated

00:48:47.100 his entire life

00:48:48.300 to politics

00:48:49.540 and winning a race.

00:48:50.860 He became myopically

00:48:51.840 focused on it

00:48:52.620 and never,

00:48:53.820 I mean,

00:48:54.040 I can't tell you

00:48:54.560 how many people

00:48:55.080 have lost money

00:48:55.780 betting against Donald Trump.

00:48:57.220 You know,

00:48:57.400 don't bet against the guy

00:48:58.420 because he's going to

00:48:58.900 beat you every single time.

00:48:59.960 And,

00:49:00.480 you know,

00:49:00.640 he became myopically

00:49:01.420 focused when he came

00:49:02.160 to the Middle East peace.

00:49:02.980 I mean,

00:49:03.140 that's the one thing

00:49:03.660 that he always wanted

00:49:04.400 to achieve.

00:49:04.880 And that was probably

00:49:06.000 the greatest achievement

00:49:06.720 of all.

00:49:07.120 It's something that

00:49:07.540 everybody was laughing at.

00:49:08.600 This will never happen.

00:49:09.520 These societies hate each other.

00:49:10.840 They've been warring

00:49:11.480 for thousands of years.

00:49:13.220 They'll never come together.

00:49:14.120 And he goes,

00:49:14.500 no,

00:49:14.640 I want peace in the Middle East.

00:49:15.920 I want the Abraham Accords.

00:49:17.060 I want people to be

00:49:18.640 kind of,

00:49:18.960 you know,

00:49:19.160 prosperous.

00:49:19.780 But he does not back down.

00:49:21.440 He does not mince words.

00:49:22.580 He's politically incorrect.

00:49:23.740 And frankly,

00:49:24.340 it's what people

00:49:25.120 adored about him.

00:49:26.680 I mean,

00:49:26.840 you'd watch his primary debates,

00:49:28.180 guys,

00:49:28.400 in 2016,

00:49:30.300 2017,

00:49:31.680 you know,

00:49:31.980 and all those sound bites

00:49:33.900 were rehearsed,

00:49:35.160 right?

00:49:35.440 I mean,

00:49:35.740 you know,

00:49:36.700 Hillary Clinton,

00:49:37.580 well,

00:49:37.820 it's very lucky

00:49:38.640 that Donald Trump

00:49:39.520 isn't running

00:49:40.080 the legal system

00:49:40.860 of the United States,

00:49:41.680 right?

00:49:41.820 He's throwing out

00:49:42.300 these zingers.

00:49:42.860 Yeah,

00:49:43.000 because you'd be in jail

00:49:43.600 for the rest of your life,

00:49:44.400 right?

00:49:44.620 And he's doing it

00:49:45.280 off the cuff.

00:49:45.780 And people like somebody

00:49:47.260 who was finally real,

00:49:48.760 somebody who wasn't PC,

00:49:50.140 somebody who was willing

00:49:50.740 to go out there

00:49:51.380 and fight like hell,

00:49:52.600 and somebody who was willing

00:49:53.280 to work hard

00:49:53.920 because you just don't have

00:49:54.620 that in politics.

00:49:55.400 I mean,

00:49:55.820 most of the politicians

00:49:56.700 are lazy.

00:49:57.380 They're canned.

00:49:58.440 They're scripted.

00:50:00.500 They're inauthentic.

00:50:02.240 And they lose Americans.

00:50:05.020 And that's why,

00:50:05.460 you know,

00:50:05.720 there was never any excitement

00:50:06.620 in politics

00:50:07.180 before my father

00:50:07.880 came into the race.

00:50:08.560 No one was excited

00:50:09.220 about Jeb Bush.

00:50:10.460 No one gave a damn

00:50:11.180 about Jeb Bush.

00:50:12.380 And now you watch

00:50:13.640 these rallies

00:50:14.180 where 30,000,

00:50:15.220 50,000 people

00:50:16.160 show up to these rallies.

00:50:17.280 People are excited.

00:50:18.060 And by the way,

00:50:18.420 a lot of those people

00:50:19.860 are young kids

00:50:20.540 who are engaged

00:50:21.520 in kind of

00:50:22.100 the democratic process

00:50:23.620 for the first time.

00:50:24.540 It's a beautiful thing

00:50:25.400 to witness.

00:50:26.440 We're talking to Eric Trump.

00:50:27.680 The book is

00:50:28.220 Under Siege,

00:50:28.980 My Family's Fight

00:50:30.000 to Save Our Nation.

00:50:31.360 It's available everywhere.

00:50:33.100 Eric,

00:50:33.480 you just talked about

00:50:34.200 your dad

00:50:34.640 and his unique sensibilities

00:50:36.240 when it comes to politics.

00:50:37.660 You're a builder.

00:50:38.800 You're a business person.

00:50:40.720 So is Jared Kushner.

00:50:42.380 So is Steve Whitcoff.

00:50:43.800 Obviously,

00:50:44.400 your dad.

00:50:45.740 How much do you think

00:50:46.840 being a business guy

00:50:48.180 made it possible

00:50:49.520 to get a deal

00:50:50.600 as opposed to

00:50:51.720 a straight politics guy

00:50:53.460 in the Middle East?

00:50:54.500 I love this

00:50:55.340 because dealmakers

00:50:56.980 look at solutions

00:50:58.400 or situations

00:50:59.360 and just try

00:51:00.260 to get to yes,

00:51:01.920 whereas it feels

00:51:02.860 like a lot of politicians

00:51:03.900 get bogged down

00:51:04.940 in things that don't matter.

00:51:06.760 How much do you think

00:51:07.500 business and deal making

00:51:09.000 really was the foundation

00:51:10.820 of what Jared,

00:51:11.780 what Steve,

00:51:12.260 and what your dad

00:51:13.160 were able to do

00:51:14.000 and how much do you see

00:51:15.120 that in your own world

00:51:16.740 from a business perspective

00:51:18.260 as looking at politics

00:51:19.440 as a series of deals

00:51:21.240 as opposed to

00:51:22.300 getting bogged down

00:51:23.480 in sometimes

00:51:24.260 these intractable issues?

00:51:26.920 By the way,

00:51:27.260 it's a great question.

00:51:27.840 I'm not sure

00:51:28.140 if I've ever gotten asked,

00:51:29.620 but it's 100%

00:51:31.240 being a dealmaker.

00:51:32.420 I mean,

00:51:32.540 listen,

00:51:32.900 Obama ran on what?

00:51:34.240 Hope, right?

00:51:35.720 I like hope.

00:51:36.560 Hope doesn't get you

00:51:37.280 anywhere in business.

00:51:38.860 You know what?

00:51:39.160 Hope gets you bankrupt.

00:51:40.700 You don't hope for something.

00:51:42.420 You go out

00:51:43.160 and you effectuate change,

00:51:44.360 right?

00:51:44.620 And that's what Jared

00:51:45.740 did so great.

00:51:46.460 That's what Whitcoff,

00:51:47.240 I mean,

00:51:47.460 Steve Whitcoff,

00:51:47.980 some of my closest friends.

00:51:48.800 I love him to death.

00:51:50.140 But I mean,

00:51:50.720 these,

00:51:51.080 you know,

00:51:51.720 and guys like me,

00:51:52.720 right?

00:51:52.900 I'm out of business

00:51:54.100 if we don't,

00:51:55.540 you know,

00:51:55.820 if we don't get results,

00:51:57.440 you don't get things

00:51:58.500 across the finish line,

00:52:00.260 you are out of business,

00:52:01.360 right?

00:52:01.540 Like that's what business

00:52:02.540 is about,

00:52:03.120 making the deal,

00:52:04.280 right?

00:52:04.480 Getting things accomplished,

00:52:05.660 getting things done.

00:52:07.500 Whereas Barack Obama

00:52:08.560 was about hope.

00:52:09.960 Hope isn't a strategy.

00:52:11.380 You know,

00:52:11.560 results are a strategy.

00:52:13.220 And that's what my father

00:52:13.960 demands.

00:52:14.920 He demands results.

00:52:15.960 Everything he does,

00:52:16.920 every word he says

00:52:18.020 is about getting

00:52:18.820 a result,

00:52:20.220 right?

00:52:20.560 You know,

00:52:20.840 and that's a calculated result.

00:52:23.000 Everything he does,

00:52:23.720 every press conference,

00:52:24.720 every meeting,

00:52:25.360 every call he makes,

00:52:27.300 every time he pushes

00:52:28.160 his cabinet,

00:52:29.040 everything he does,

00:52:30.360 every person that he appoints,

00:52:32.340 it's about getting results.

00:52:34.700 And that's what motivates

00:52:36.020 my father.

00:52:36.660 And that's what motivates

00:52:37.420 people in the business world.

00:52:38.680 And so I think that's why

00:52:39.800 all of a sudden

00:52:40.240 you had this kind of,

00:52:40.940 you know,

00:52:41.180 ragtag group of people,

00:52:42.240 once again,

00:52:43.580 you know,

00:52:43.820 who didn't know anything

00:52:44.520 about politics.

00:52:45.920 You know,

00:52:46.160 it might not have even known

00:52:47.140 that much about

00:52:47.700 Middle East peace,

00:52:48.320 but was able to go in there,

00:52:50.020 build relationships,

00:52:51.500 negotiate well,

00:52:52.500 get everybody to a table

00:52:53.680 and actually effectuate change

00:52:55.080 versus,

00:52:55.840 you know,

00:52:56.240 these career bureaucrats

00:52:57.440 who talk about how much

00:52:58.840 they know about foreign policy

00:53:00.020 and yet they're incapable

00:53:01.700 of getting anything done.

00:53:02.920 I mean,

00:53:03.060 how many more times

00:53:04.140 do you have to hear?

00:53:05.920 Do you remember in 2016,

00:53:07.020 2017?

00:53:08.080 Well,

00:53:08.260 Donald Trump does not know

00:53:09.420 anything about foreign policy.

00:53:10.540 It's like,

00:53:11.240 yeah,

00:53:11.340 they didn't know anything

00:53:11.940 about foreign policy either.

00:53:13.080 You know,

00:53:13.220 and guess what?

00:53:14.020 It's a really smart guy

00:53:14.960 who could figure it out

00:53:15.640 in about three and a half seconds,

00:53:16.680 bring people to the table

00:53:18.420 and actually get something accomplished

00:53:20.160 and,

00:53:20.460 you know,

00:53:21.740 it always makes me so happy

00:53:23.620 when I see him

00:53:24.240 just run circles

00:53:24.900 around these people

00:53:25.640 who claim to know something

00:53:26.600 about foreign policy

00:53:27.440 yet they haven't progressed

00:53:28.920 the ball in the last,

00:53:29.980 you know,

00:53:30.180 three decades.

00:53:30.800 Well,

00:53:31.640 it's been amazing to see

00:53:32.640 and especially to watch

00:53:34.000 a lot of your dad's critics

00:53:35.700 eat a hefty dose of humble pie

00:53:38.620 because of the huge win

00:53:40.180 in the Middle East.

00:53:40.660 So congrats to you,

00:53:41.440 congrats to your family

00:53:42.660 and to the president.

00:53:43.840 I have one last one for you,

00:53:45.400 Eric.

00:53:46.060 You and I are roughly the same age,

00:53:47.540 Clay's a little bit older,

00:53:48.720 but we grew up

00:53:51.580 with the same movies,

00:53:52.600 you and I,

00:53:53.140 Eric,

00:53:53.740 and your book is

00:53:54.440 Under Siege,

00:53:55.260 My Family's Fight

00:53:56.040 to Save Our Nation,

00:53:56.960 which is already number one.

00:53:58.040 Everyone should go get a copy of it.

00:53:59.200 And does the Steven Seagal,

00:54:01.400 by the way,

00:54:02.160 a vocal Trump supporter,

00:54:03.920 does Steven Seagal's

00:54:05.240 Under Siege

00:54:06.140 make your top 10

00:54:07.640 action movies

00:54:08.500 all-time list?

00:54:10.160 Yeah,

00:54:10.440 about 100%, right?

00:54:11.800 I mean,

00:54:12.040 Steven Seagal

00:54:12.840 is like a legend for us,

00:54:14.000 right?

00:54:14.320 As,

00:54:14.680 you know,

00:54:16.180 as was Jean-Claude Van Damme,

00:54:17.660 as you remember very well.

00:54:18.500 I mean,

00:54:18.620 my father and I used to watch

00:54:20.180 literally Bloodsport

00:54:21.280 every single weekend.

00:54:22.680 I mean,

00:54:22.820 we love that movie.

00:54:24.080 We watched that too.

00:54:25.320 You know,

00:54:25.520 it's Steven Miller's

00:54:26.340 favorite movie.

00:54:27.020 He told us that on the show.

00:54:28.000 Number one all time.

00:54:29.720 Buck,

00:54:30.120 you remember the Kumite

00:54:30.860 and everything,

00:54:31.620 right?

00:54:31.720 We love that.

00:54:32.240 Of course.

00:54:32.720 I mean,

00:54:32.860 how could you not,

00:54:33.940 you know,

00:54:34.140 you had Gary Busey,

00:54:36.120 of all things.

00:54:36.540 Gary Busey ended up being

00:54:37.380 on The Apprentice with us

00:54:38.180 for years.

00:54:39.020 He had Steven Seagal.

00:54:39.820 He was,

00:54:40.160 you know,

00:54:40.440 tossing people around

00:54:41.340 the Missouri.

00:54:42.740 Remember the battleship?

00:54:43.820 And,

00:54:43.940 you know,

00:54:44.440 it was a great movie.

00:54:45.840 But,

00:54:46.320 no,

00:54:46.700 never did I think

00:54:47.620 that would come

00:54:48.020 into a little,

00:54:48.660 you know,

00:54:49.060 fashion in my life.

00:54:49.960 I mean,

00:54:50.100 listen,

00:54:50.500 anybody roughly our age,

00:54:51.640 I'm 41,

00:54:52.200 anybody roughly our age

00:54:53.060 had seen Under Siege,

00:54:53.860 but they literally,

00:54:54.980 guys,

00:54:55.300 they put us under siege.

00:54:56.280 You know,

00:54:56.480 they tried to destroy us.

00:54:58.200 They tried to do

00:54:59.440 everything they could

00:55:00.220 to cut us off,

00:55:01.580 to silence our voice,

00:55:03.100 to bankrupt us,

00:55:04.560 to deprive us,

00:55:05.800 to weaponize the media,

00:55:07.080 to weaponize the government,

00:55:08.320 to weaponize the DOJ,

00:55:09.680 to weaponize every,

00:55:10.580 right?

00:55:10.960 To make up dirty dossiers,

00:55:12.860 to impeach him,

00:55:13.620 to go after,

00:55:14.480 you know,

00:55:15.140 I mean,

00:55:15.720 his Supreme Court justices,

00:55:17.180 his inner circle,

00:55:18.020 his family,

00:55:19.120 to try and screw up

00:55:20.040 his marriage,

00:55:20.840 to try and screw up

00:55:21.740 his family,

00:55:23.060 to try and steal

00:55:23.760 his businesses from him.

00:55:25.120 That is the definition

00:55:26.400 of a siege.

00:55:27.200 And the good news is,

00:55:28.080 and by the way,

00:55:28.480 they did that to all of America,

00:55:30.020 right?

00:55:30.280 They tried to go after,

00:55:31.480 you know,

00:55:31.760 Americans and mainly conservatives

00:55:33.360 vis-a-vis the IRS.

00:55:35.040 They went after their churches.

00:55:36.280 They went after their

00:55:37.060 religious institutions.

00:55:38.180 They went after their children.

00:55:39.860 They taught them

00:55:40.380 revisionist history.

00:55:41.460 They tried to,

00:55:42.060 you know,

00:55:42.440 confuse their gender identities.

00:55:45.420 This is the siege

00:55:46.380 that they put this country through,

00:55:47.660 and we won the siege,

00:55:48.680 guys.

00:55:48.980 We won it.

00:55:50.020 We won every aspect of it

00:55:51.440 based on the fact

00:55:51.960 that we had the most

00:55:52.480 resounding victory

00:55:53.460 in American political history,

00:55:55.560 winning the popular vote,

00:55:56.620 winning every swing state,

00:55:57.640 having every state

00:55:58.940 in the country

00:55:59.500 tacked to the right.

00:56:00.800 And so,

00:56:01.560 guys,

00:56:01.800 they put us all under siege,

00:56:02.800 and we won.

00:56:03.860 The greatest political movement

00:56:05.120 in the history

00:56:06.180 of this country won.

00:56:07.200 And so,

00:56:07.940 you know,

00:56:08.280 the book,

00:56:09.220 as ugly as some of the topics

00:56:10.520 are in there,

00:56:11.540 you know,

00:56:11.900 actually is beautiful

00:56:13.760 because you can beat

00:56:14.800 the mainstream media,

00:56:15.920 and you can beat

00:56:16.560 the weaponization of government,

00:56:18.120 and we can win

00:56:19.000 as a collective of Americans

00:56:20.100 who love this country

00:56:20.960 and love God

00:56:21.580 and love our Constitution

00:56:23.020 and love our flag.

00:56:24.380 And that's exactly

00:56:25.200 what we did together.

00:56:27.100 Amen.

00:56:27.760 Book Under Siege.

00:56:28.660 Encourage you guys

00:56:29.320 to go check it out.

00:56:30.020 Appreciate the time, Eric.

00:56:31.060 Look forward to crossing

00:56:31.720 paths down the road.

00:56:34.080 Guys,

00:56:34.480 thanks so much for having me.

00:56:36.640 Look,

00:56:37.040 we've had a phenomenal news

00:56:38.140 out of Israel

00:56:38.740 all week long.

00:56:39.700 You just heard us

00:56:40.200 talking about it

00:56:40.980 with Eric Trump.

00:56:42.100 You've heard us

00:56:42.420 talking about it

00:56:43.040 all week.

00:56:43.940 It's been incredible

00:56:44.780 to be able

00:56:45.700 to chase

00:56:47.100 and to see.

00:56:48.300 Lasting peace

00:56:48.940 is a great thing.

00:56:50.020 In same spirit,

00:56:50.780 it's worth mentioning

00:56:51.520 our longtime partners

00:56:53.060 and what they've been able

00:56:54.140 to do,

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00:56:56.780 For over 40 years,

00:56:58.400 the fellowship

00:56:58.880 has brought Christians

00:56:59.740 and Jews together

00:57:00.520 to solve big problems

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00:57:04.780 but also the former

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00:57:09.740 Day after day,

00:57:10.920 IFCJ teams

00:57:12.060 are on the ground

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00:57:14.120 of nutritious food

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00:57:16.240 the poor,

00:57:17.160 particularly the elderly,

00:57:18.520 including the last

00:57:19.400 of the Holocaust survivors

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00:57:22.480 I've seen for myself

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