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On today's show, Clay and Buck are in the panhandle of Florida and Buck is in Panama City Beach, Florida. President Trump is feeling it right now. He's got a peace deal with Ukraine, a deal with Russia, a trade deal with China, and a possible trade war with India.

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00:00:41.060 Welcome in, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.
00:00:45.220 We are rolling with all of you Thursday edition of the program.
00:00:49.000 I have joined Buck in the free state of Florida.
00:00:51.400 I'm in the northern part of Florida.
00:00:53.060 He is in the absolute most southern nearly part of Florida,
00:00:55.920 but we have got the entire sides of the state covered.
00:00:59.540 I'm on the panhandle, Buck,
00:01:00.780 and I know you talked about when you were in the Highlands
00:01:03.920 how everybody who comes up is super...
00:01:06.520 I bet per capita the panhandle of Florida,
00:01:10.180 particularly down in the beach area,
00:01:12.680 may be the number one most indexed,
00:01:15.920 I love you, Clay and Buck audience in all of America.
00:01:19.400 So this is fun.
00:01:20.260 I'm in Panama City Beach for the next couple of days,
00:01:24.560 and we are monitoring a bunch of different stories that are out there.
00:01:30.320 President Trump is, as we speak, I believe,
00:01:33.600 unless something has happened in the last couple of minutes,
00:01:35.940 on a phone call with Vladimir Putin.
00:01:38.860 Trump is, Buck, he's feeling it.
00:01:41.240 You know, when you got the roll going a little bit,
00:01:45.020 maybe whatever your game is, table stakes.
00:01:47.180 Hey, J.B. Pritzker, $1.4 million.
00:01:49.860 We've had some fun with that in gambling earnings last year.
00:01:53.160 Did you guys see that?
00:01:53.940 The governor of Illinois.
00:01:55.580 But you have the...
00:01:56.360 Maybe you're on the craps table,
00:01:57.660 and the rolls are going your direction.
00:01:59.480 Maybe you've just hit Blackjack against the dealer,
00:02:02.460 and you got some money in your pocket.
00:02:05.460 Maybe you just hit on a few of our prize picks winners.
00:02:09.500 But President Trump is feeling it right now.
00:02:13.440 He's got the peace agreement in the Middle East,
00:02:16.100 and he now is stepping up.
00:02:19.160 He's got Zelensky coming into the White House on Friday,
00:02:21.840 and I think he's increasingly emboldened at his hand, so to speak,
00:02:27.500 and the string of victories that he has put together,
00:02:30.420 and I think he has expectations that he's going to be able to find peace
00:02:34.480 in this Ukraine and Russia deal,
00:02:37.300 and it's going to be interesting to see what his negotiating lever is.
00:02:41.300 We've got a bunch to get into, but right off the top, Buck,
00:02:44.500 it seems like right now Trump has decided
00:02:47.200 that maybe the way to get peace is to make Russia fear if the war continues.
00:02:53.520 Right now there is no fear.
00:02:55.740 If you look in the Middle East,
00:02:57.100 I know a lot of people disagreed with you and me,
00:02:59.260 but we were right.
00:03:00.620 The strike in Iran basically let everybody know,
00:03:04.220 okay, there are consequences
00:03:06.760 if we step outside the lines of acceptable behavior.
00:03:10.360 And right now there are no consequences for Russia.
00:03:14.240 Those consequences can be economic as it comes to oil and gas,
00:03:18.100 and Trump has tried to bring that to bear on India.
00:03:20.660 But it seems, and I'm not sure he's officially going to do it,
00:03:24.040 but it seems that Trump has decided
00:03:26.080 that giving Ukraine weapons that can reach into Russia
00:03:30.240 and directly attack Russia's ability to produce oil,
00:03:33.780 which is what is the money funding source
00:03:37.460 that is allowing this war to continue
00:03:39.800 that maybe Trump is at least willing to threaten
00:03:43.440 if not actually willing to do it.
00:03:45.520 Does that kind of seem to be your read
00:03:47.660 from a negotiating standpoint
00:03:50.060 and what exactly is at stake here
00:03:51.780 or what's going on?
00:03:53.340 Yes, and we should dive into some of the specifics here.
00:03:56.640 I would just add to it that there's also
00:03:59.480 the very high-stakes negotiation with China going on
00:04:04.680 over trade, over tariffs,
00:04:06.740 where on the 1st of January, as of right now,
00:04:11.000 it's supposed to be 100% tariff going into effect
00:04:13.400 on Chinese goods,
00:04:15.380 which this is true trade war stuff.
00:04:18.960 And when 100% tariff isn't a little surtax,
00:04:21.580 that is, now the products will no longer be competitive
00:04:24.700 entering the U.S. market at the current rates.
00:04:28.980 So that's a big deal.
00:04:30.780 China is thinking that they can outmaneuver Trump 0.68
00:04:36.280 by cutting rare-earth minerals to the rest of the world.
00:04:40.660 This is a very complicated topic on its own
00:04:42.600 because rare-earth, we have rare-earth minerals here.
00:04:46.020 We haven't been mining them.
00:04:47.940 I think a lot of this is because
00:04:49.120 the environmental lobby and concerns about,
00:04:52.080 oh, the mining is going to be so terrible.
00:04:53.720 So China's been doing it, 0.99
00:04:55.100 and now China is this massive provider
00:04:57.200 of rare-earth to the whole world.
00:04:58.520 You need these things for the electronics
00:05:00.240 that we all now rely on for our day-to-day lives.
00:05:02.800 So the China negotiation, Clay, is heating up
00:05:05.820 right at the same time we are entering now
00:05:09.260 another phase of the Russia negotiation,
00:05:12.240 which you were laying out.
00:05:13.680 Here's my sense of this.
00:05:15.260 I do not believe that Trump is going to get a deal
00:05:17.340 on Russia-Ukraine this time around either.
00:05:21.040 I think that Putin still believes
00:05:22.500 that he is taking territory.
00:05:24.020 He may give some indication of progress via words,
00:05:30.160 meaning Putin, and we're going to revisit this.
00:05:33.560 I think that Putin squarely and strongly believes
00:05:36.420 that he will continue to strengthen his hand
00:05:39.320 and gain more territory with the battlefield at status quo,
00:05:43.200 and even Trump saying, 0.91
00:05:45.680 I'm going to bloody your nose on this
00:05:47.480 if you don't stop, is not going to be enough. 0.95
00:05:50.120 You're going to have to see an actual change
00:05:53.480 in what's happening on the battlefield
00:05:56.360 because of U.S. weapons and support,
00:05:58.900 and then maybe you can get to a deal.
00:06:01.480 I think Trump has to turn up the heat,
00:06:04.240 not just threaten to turn up the heat,
00:06:06.020 to get to any kind of meaningful,
00:06:07.680 just ceasefire, never mind peace deal.
00:06:09.380 Okay, so let's build on that.
00:06:12.320 To what extent is giving Ukraine offensive weaponry
00:06:16.680 going to lead to a more significant battleground,
00:06:22.040 a more deadly, a more serious,
00:06:25.240 remember that Russia has nukes?
00:06:27.700 Do you fear that if we accelerate the weaponry
00:06:31.060 on Ukraine's side,
00:06:32.760 that Russia will accelerate the use of weaponry
00:06:35.880 on their side?
00:06:36.740 Because that's the rationale for which
00:06:39.360 giving Ukraine weapons that could strike into Russia 0.72
00:06:43.100 have not been done to this point.
00:06:44.760 Do you buy that as a fear that Russia will accelerate
00:06:47.740 or increase the level of violence
00:06:51.100 that they bring to bear?
00:06:52.680 I do not.
00:06:54.060 I think that Putin will make noise about that,
00:06:56.720 but I think that there are a few reasons
00:06:58.020 why he wouldn't do it.
00:06:58.900 For one, you have Russian and Ukrainian troops
00:07:02.540 in essentially a trench warfare standoff
00:07:05.340 in very close contact,
00:07:07.520 such that if this was used,
00:07:09.580 even a so-called tactical nuke used on the battlefield,
00:07:13.140 you would be taking, I think,
00:07:15.620 a substantial risk to your own forces,
00:07:17.940 most likely.
00:07:18.920 Now, people could say,
00:07:19.680 what if you nukes Kiev
00:07:21.580 or goes deep into the interior?
00:07:23.720 Well, that's a massive escalation
00:07:26.600 beyond what we have even seen
00:07:28.280 that would bring, I think,
00:07:30.240 the international, you know,
00:07:32.000 forget about the international community,
00:07:33.480 America, the UK,
00:07:35.080 even China at that point,
00:07:36.220 would be like,
00:07:36.460 what the heck are you doing?
00:07:37.700 And you might have reprisals,
00:07:39.980 you might have a response from nations
00:07:42.100 that, you know,
00:07:43.300 takes us to a very scary place.
00:07:44.980 I don't think that they're willing to do that.
00:07:46.820 I don't think they would do that.
00:07:48.980 If we started,
00:07:50.200 if they start lobbing missiles into Moscow,
00:07:52.100 maybe, I mean, you know,
00:07:52.880 there are red lines the Russians have, 0.61
00:07:55.420 but I don't think that more effective weapons
00:07:57.720 on the Ukraine battlefield
00:08:00.000 against the Russians 0.99
00:08:01.320 results in Russia deploying and,
00:08:04.580 you know, using a nuke.
00:08:06.040 That would be a very scary world
00:08:07.760 if that happened,
00:08:08.460 and I know that this is
00:08:09.320 very high-stakes poker,
00:08:10.800 but keep in mind,
00:08:11.780 they've been dangling that threat
00:08:13.580 this whole time.
00:08:14.900 I think at some point,
00:08:16.820 people have to be willing
00:08:18.120 to call the bluff on it.
00:08:19.680 I'm not sure that Trump is,
00:08:21.520 I'm not sure how far deep down
00:08:23.060 this rabbit hole Trump is going to go,
00:08:25.060 but I also think that he recognizes
00:08:27.400 the, hey, Vladimir,
00:08:29.320 let's be reasonable,
00:08:30.940 let's be reasonable men here
00:08:33.020 does not work.
00:08:34.220 That's not going to work with Putin.
00:08:35.640 He is not reasonable
00:08:36.640 in the sense of
00:08:37.520 how we view reasonableness.
00:08:39.560 I think it comes down to fear.
00:08:41.460 I think the only thing
00:08:42.720 that Putin responds to is fear,
00:08:44.500 and I don't mean that
00:08:45.600 he's physically fearful.
00:08:47.260 I mean that he is afraid
00:08:48.460 somebody might be willing
00:08:50.020 to be as nasty to him
00:08:52.180 as he is clearly willing
00:08:53.940 to be to them,
00:08:54.840 and I think Trump has come
00:08:57.100 to see that that might be necessary,
00:08:58.860 and I think you hit on
00:09:00.120 something important here,
00:09:01.100 which is the China component.
00:09:03.360 I wonder to what extent
00:09:05.120 a peace deal
00:09:06.180 that could be brokered
00:09:08.020 might involve China
00:09:09.720 starting to step away
00:09:11.600 for just a short period of time
00:09:13.280 from purchasing Russian oil
00:09:14.740 because Trump brought
00:09:16.200 the hammer down on India, 0.99
00:09:17.700 and to be fair,
00:09:20.020 a lot of this Russian oil embargo
00:09:22.620 is complete BS,
00:09:25.180 by which, I mean,
00:09:27.280 people say,
00:09:27.880 oh, we're not going to buy Russian oil.
00:09:29.900 They're invading Ukraine. 0.88
00:09:31.460 This is unacceptable,
00:09:32.400 and so Russia sells the oil
00:09:35.820 to India at a discount.
00:09:38.620 India then marks it up some
00:09:40.700 and sells it back
00:09:41.960 to the rest of the world. 0.99
00:09:43.300 It's a ridiculous shell. 0.97
00:09:44.900 It's not a bad business for India, 1.00
00:09:46.640 right,
00:09:47.220 because they're getting
00:09:47.960 reduced oil gas costs,
00:09:49.920 and then they're able
00:09:50.940 to still sell
00:09:51.820 at a reduced price
00:09:53.180 as the middleman,
00:09:54.680 but this whole idea
00:09:56.360 that we've cut off
00:09:57.380 Russia's outlets
00:09:58.420 to the rest of the world
00:09:59.720 with their oil
00:10:00.660 is a total shell game,
00:10:02.340 and Trump has recognized it.
00:10:04.220 He's put the pressure on India. 0.99
00:10:06.240 Now, will China bend in any way?
00:10:09.680 Because, really,
00:10:10.700 if you want to curtail
00:10:11.960 the financial might of Russia,
00:10:13.740 you have to end 1.00
00:10:14.940 a fake shit game. 1.00
00:10:15.980 Here's the other thing 1.00
00:10:16.560 they could do,
00:10:17.360 and there has been
00:10:18.140 some discussion about this,
00:10:19.460 much of it in Europe.
00:10:20.820 Start letting Europe use 0.99
00:10:22.200 all of the frozen Russian assets
00:10:24.220 that have been seized
00:10:25.780 in overseas bank accounts
00:10:27.780 to pay for the war
00:10:29.540 against Russia.
00:10:31.980 That, to me,
00:10:33.360 is something that could
00:10:34.480 get Putin's attention
00:10:35.700 in a significant way as well.
00:10:37.800 I think, Buck,
00:10:38.880 it is around $200
00:10:40.520 or $300 billion
00:10:42.440 that has been seized
00:10:44.520 in Russian assets
00:10:45.740 in European banks,
00:10:47.120 by and large.
00:10:48.360 And if you just give
00:10:49.340 all that money to Ukraine
00:10:50.280 and say,
00:10:50.860 okay, boom,
00:10:51.520 go buy all the weaponry
00:10:53.380 that you want,
00:10:54.540 and we'll let Russia 0.97
00:10:55.740 fund the war
00:10:56.840 directly against Russia,
00:10:58.760 I think that might well
00:10:59.780 get a lot of their attention,
00:11:00.840 and it feels like,
00:11:01.960 to me,
00:11:02.980 a significant step
00:11:04.160 that should be taken.
00:11:05.860 Yes, there's a lot here
00:11:07.060 that could be done.
00:11:08.400 Again, I think Trump
00:11:09.280 is going to have to do it.
00:11:10.480 I don't think that
00:11:11.120 the talking about it
00:11:12.240 to Putin,
00:11:12.780 even from President Trump,
00:11:14.200 is going to result
00:11:15.200 in any real change here.
00:11:17.720 That's just based on
00:11:18.840 how this has gone so far.
00:11:20.600 I would also say
00:11:21.400 one of the challenges
00:11:22.100 that we have,
00:11:22.900 and Clay,
00:11:23.200 this came up even
00:11:24.000 in my discussions
00:11:24.720 with the Taiwanese leadership
00:11:26.500 in Taipei,
00:11:28.740 one of the challenges
00:11:29.640 is that even when
00:11:30.660 America now 0.91
00:11:31.640 wants to sell,
00:11:33.380 not give,
00:11:34.260 sell weapons
00:11:35.860 to allies
00:11:36.720 so they can defend
00:11:37.740 themselves,
00:11:38.660 we run into
00:11:40.160 capacity problems.
00:11:42.360 Yeah.
00:11:42.460 We don't have
00:11:43.540 the World War II,
00:11:46.040 all of the above,
00:11:47.580 what was a factory
00:11:48.920 for cars
00:11:49.560 is now a factory
00:11:50.460 for tanks.
00:11:51.080 We don't have that
00:11:51.720 economy anymore
00:11:52.460 for understandable reasons,
00:11:54.400 but that's not
00:11:55.220 the situation
00:11:56.280 we are in,
00:11:56.960 so we can't
00:11:57.960 even ramp up
00:11:58.920 the production
00:11:59.640 of some of,
00:12:01.340 even things as
00:12:01.900 straightforward as
00:12:02.580 artillery rounds
00:12:04.380 for the Ukrainian
00:12:05.760 fighters,
00:12:07.720 or the Ukrainian army,
00:12:08.980 so that's a challenge
00:12:09.960 that we run into
00:12:10.660 here as well,
00:12:11.620 so we can give them
00:12:12.520 more advanced systems,
00:12:14.400 but just giving them,
00:12:15.660 part of the problem
00:12:16.560 is that Russia
00:12:17.160 can just put more men
00:12:18.420 and materiel
00:12:19.180 on the battlefield
00:12:20.100 with a whole lot
00:12:21.380 more in reserve,
00:12:22.880 and our ability
00:12:23.860 to try to match
00:12:25.700 them for the Ukrainians
00:12:27.920 in any meaningful way
00:12:29.480 is constrained by
00:12:30.680 we can't make
00:12:31.480 this stuff fast enough.
00:12:33.320 Yeah.
00:12:33.460 So that's another
00:12:34.100 problem that we're
00:12:34.880 running up against
00:12:35.720 here, you know,
00:12:36.240 and you can't just
00:12:37.020 build advanced
00:12:38.840 factories to make
00:12:39.920 whatever it is,
00:12:41.240 you know,
00:12:41.400 the various missile
00:12:42.180 systems.
00:12:42.640 There used to be
00:12:43.500 a lot more
00:12:44.360 defense contractors.
00:12:45.740 There were dozens
00:12:46.580 in the,
00:12:47.500 I think,
00:12:47.840 even back in,
00:12:48.520 like,
00:12:48.700 the 80s.
00:12:49.440 Now it's really
00:12:50.240 just four
00:12:50.920 that are the primary,
00:12:52.820 or it's four or five,
00:12:53.860 but they're
00:12:54.420 just a handful
00:12:55.720 that are the major
00:12:56.560 defense contractors,
00:12:57.580 and they're not
00:12:59.520 going to operate
00:13:00.040 at a loss
00:13:00.580 with capacity
00:13:01.240 they don't use,
00:13:01.940 so they're just
00:13:02.620 churning out
00:13:03.180 what they're churning
00:13:03.700 out.
00:13:04.520 So there's complexity
00:13:05.440 here to the battlefront
00:13:06.900 that Ukraine is on
00:13:08.520 that we have to
00:13:09.660 take into account
00:13:10.640 here as well,
00:13:11.000 that Trump has to
00:13:11.600 take into account
00:13:13.080 when he's doing
00:13:13.600 these negotiations.
00:13:15.480 One other bit
00:13:16.740 of news there
00:13:17.320 that could be
00:13:17.900 favorable is
00:13:18.980 we're now into
00:13:19.660 mid-October.
00:13:20.920 By mid-November,
00:13:22.020 the mud becomes
00:13:22.760 so significant
00:13:23.520 according to
00:13:24.820 everything that
00:13:25.320 I've read
00:13:25.880 because winter
00:13:26.720 arrives in Ukraine
00:13:27.840 that the battlefield
00:13:29.220 movement and
00:13:30.520 attacks diminish
00:13:31.880 substantially,
00:13:33.420 meaning we may
00:13:34.260 now have several
00:13:35.140 months where
00:13:35.960 there isn't
00:13:36.780 any ability
00:13:37.660 to move the
00:13:38.520 lines in an
00:13:39.200 aggressive fashion
00:13:40.140 that might
00:13:41.520 facilitate peace
00:13:42.720 now to the
00:13:43.540 extent that Putin
00:13:44.340 feels like he's
00:13:45.260 captured as much
00:13:46.340 territory as he
00:13:47.160 possibly can.
00:13:47.880 By the way,
00:13:48.240 several other
00:13:48.840 stories out there.
00:13:49.620 Again,
00:13:49.800 we begin with that
00:13:50.460 because Trump
00:13:51.000 is on a call
00:13:51.740 with Vladimir
00:13:52.700 Putin as we
00:13:53.640 are beginning
00:13:54.020 the show with
00:13:54.560 all of you.
00:13:55.540 John Fetterman,
00:13:56.660 big story in
00:13:57.460 Axios that
00:13:58.340 Democrats are
00:13:59.160 unhappy with him
00:14:00.340 and may be
00:14:01.040 bringing a
00:14:01.980 challenge in
00:14:03.040 the Senate
00:14:03.580 primary in
00:14:05.580 2028 in the
00:14:07.800 state of
00:14:08.060 Pennsylvania.
00:14:09.040 AOC says
00:14:10.700 Republicans are
00:14:11.860 leading young
00:14:12.700 men astray with
00:14:13.900 their toxic 0.99
00:14:14.700 masculinity.
00:14:16.480 Momdani went
00:14:17.280 on Fox News
00:14:18.000 with Martha
00:14:18.540 McCollum as
00:14:19.940 the New York
00:14:20.440 City mayor's
00:14:21.060 race inches
00:14:21.620 closer and
00:14:22.220 closer just
00:14:22.900 about three
00:14:23.540 weeks away
00:14:24.260 there.
00:14:25.140 And maybe
00:14:26.020 things in
00:14:26.520 Virginia are
00:14:27.420 more competitive
00:14:28.380 than we
00:14:28.980 thought.
00:14:29.540 Obama has
00:14:30.300 had to drop
00:14:31.100 an ad for
00:14:32.320 Abigail Spanberger
00:14:33.560 in that
00:14:34.440 Virginia governor's
00:14:35.600 race.
00:14:36.020 We'll continue
00:14:36.440 to follow all
00:14:38.100 of that with
00:14:38.740 you, but we
00:14:39.300 want to tell
00:14:39.660 you the headlines
00:14:40.260 out of Israel
00:14:40.880 this week speak
00:14:41.620 of joy, relief,
00:14:42.560 and hopefulness
00:14:43.260 for meaningful
00:14:44.280 peace now at
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00:16:43.360 Welcome in,
00:16:44.140 everybody.
00:16:44.640 Second hour of
00:16:45.820 Clay and Buck
00:16:47.200 kicks off now.
00:16:49.320 And we had
00:16:50.100 mentioned this.
00:16:50.660 So we have to
00:16:52.240 play it.
00:16:52.780 We can't just
00:16:53.640 leave you hanging
00:16:54.360 out there, right?
00:16:56.460 Christiane Amonpour,
00:16:59.300 who has a sort of
00:17:01.320 English accent, but
00:17:02.520 also it's like
00:17:03.240 fancier than an
00:17:04.220 English accent.
00:17:05.160 What percentage of
00:17:06.300 her professional
00:17:07.100 success is related
00:17:08.920 to her accent,
00:17:10.220 Buck?
00:17:10.440 If she talked
00:17:11.320 like you or me,
00:17:12.580 not bad voices,
00:17:13.900 we talk on the
00:17:14.540 radio, would she
00:17:15.760 be 75% less
00:17:17.340 successful in her
00:17:18.200 career?
00:17:19.500 Oh, at least.
00:17:20.660 At least.
00:17:21.740 There was a time
00:17:22.600 when, and this is
00:17:25.320 just a fact, there
00:17:25.920 was a time when,
00:17:26.760 especially in
00:17:27.360 television, you had
00:17:28.600 a British accent of
00:17:29.660 any kind, people
00:17:31.100 just assumed you
00:17:31.880 were smart and
00:17:32.840 they should listen
00:17:33.360 to you.
00:17:33.980 In America, which
00:17:34.940 is weird, especially
00:17:36.180 when you stop to
00:17:37.020 think that the GDP
00:17:39.300 per capita of the
00:17:40.780 UK is less than
00:17:42.640 the per capita
00:17:43.400 income of the
00:17:44.220 poorest American
00:17:45.160 state.
00:17:45.620 like, why do we
00:17:46.540 think they're so
00:17:47.140 fancy over there?
00:17:48.500 You know what I
00:17:48.880 mean?
00:17:49.220 This is a weird
00:17:49.840 It's not even, it's
00:17:50.800 not even past, Buck.
00:17:52.560 This, I think John
00:17:53.700 Oliver owes 75% of
00:17:56.220 his career success to
00:17:57.300 the fact that he's
00:17:57.880 British.
00:17:58.620 Well, that's not
00:17:59.400 very nice, isn't
00:18:00.360 Clay?
00:18:01.560 You know, yeah,
00:18:02.720 absolutely.
00:18:03.620 If these guys
00:18:04.120 actually spoke like
00:18:05.480 everybody else in
00:18:07.280 America.
00:18:07.620 If Oliver had a
00:18:08.600 Southern accent, he
00:18:10.160 would have no
00:18:10.700 career.
00:18:11.640 Exact same, exact
00:18:14.100 same opinions, deep
00:18:16.320 Southern accent, he
00:18:18.040 does not have a media
00:18:19.040 career.
00:18:19.880 He owes everything to
00:18:21.400 the British and the
00:18:22.240 fact that he doesn't
00:18:23.060 have a deep Southern
00:18:23.900 accent.
00:18:24.720 What's funny to me is
00:18:25.520 I've tried to goad Clay
00:18:26.860 into giving me the
00:18:27.900 most country Tennessee
00:18:29.280 accent possible and
00:18:31.520 he does, it's like
00:18:32.100 it's not even a thing
00:18:33.180 that's there.
00:18:33.920 He just doesn't.
00:18:34.460 I just feel like if
00:18:35.900 you fake an accent,
00:18:37.620 and I don't mean for
00:18:39.940 comedic purposes, this
00:18:42.180 is the thing that
00:18:42.880 drives me crazy.
00:18:43.860 Every Southerner, we've
00:18:45.420 talked about this
00:18:45.980 before, politicians
00:18:47.900 disrespect us so much
00:18:49.720 because they pretend
00:18:50.900 that they're actually
00:18:51.760 Southern whenever they 0.86
00:18:52.860 come down here that
00:18:54.520 my mom and dad have
00:18:55.780 deep Southern
00:18:56.620 accents.
00:18:57.440 You don't even code
00:18:59.300 switch, though.
00:19:00.420 You don't do the
00:19:01.480 code switch thing.
00:19:02.460 It's not like when
00:19:03.100 you're in Nashville
00:19:03.620 and you're like, hey,
00:19:04.320 I'm Clay Travis, y'all.
00:19:05.740 That does not
00:19:06.660 happen.
00:19:07.000 I don't believe in
00:19:08.000 code switching.
00:19:09.020 I'm me for better or
00:19:10.500 worse.
00:19:11.080 There is no distinction 0.88
00:19:12.620 between me on this
00:19:13.940 microphone and when I
00:19:15.020 walk outside and I'm on
00:19:16.220 the sidewalk in Panama
00:19:17.280 City, I will sound the
00:19:18.940 exact same.
00:19:19.480 I can't act.
00:19:20.700 I'm the worst actor.
00:19:22.360 I was going to say,
00:19:23.600 when I'm in Sheepshead
00:19:24.560 Bay, I'm showing Clay
00:19:25.680 around in New York and
00:19:26.680 I'm like, hey, it's
00:19:27.360 Buck.
00:19:27.660 I'm a firefighter, FDNY.
00:19:30.660 Clay doesn't even, he's
00:19:31.880 like, what's going on
00:19:32.620 here?
00:19:32.860 I'm like, don't worry.
00:19:33.560 I'm with the locals.
00:19:34.200 We'll talk in, you
00:19:35.040 know, you know, like it's
00:19:36.100 a different thing.
00:19:37.020 He doesn't even, I
00:19:38.020 won't even do it.
00:19:38.800 I'm helping people get
00:19:40.380 elected in Tennessee.
00:19:41.880 I just show up and I
00:19:43.180 talk like me.
00:19:44.000 Now, does it help that
00:19:45.400 I'm from Tennessee and
00:19:46.480 that people know that I
00:19:47.440 am?
00:19:47.840 Yes, probably because
00:19:49.080 there's so many people who
00:19:50.020 have moved in from other
00:19:50.880 places and they trust me
00:19:52.260 because I'm a local.
00:19:53.780 But what we don't trust in
00:19:56.480 the South, and I know
00:19:57.260 there's tons of you out
00:19:58.240 there in the South
00:19:58.780 listening, nodding along,
00:20:00.060 is when somebody who's
00:20:01.640 not from here shows up
00:20:03.680 and tries to pretend like
00:20:04.980 they are, which is every
00:20:06.380 politician.
00:20:07.480 Well, as we've discussed,
00:20:08.660 we actually do need to
00:20:10.020 have a national
00:20:10.700 dispensation.
00:20:11.480 Maybe Trump could sign an
00:20:12.340 executive order whereby we
00:20:14.280 all just appropriate y'all
00:20:15.760 because it is a better
00:20:17.020 contraction.
00:20:18.400 You guys, which is really
00:20:20.020 the Northeastern
00:20:20.700 equivalent.
00:20:21.300 You guys, y'all is way
00:20:23.300 better.
00:20:23.760 Easier to say.
00:20:24.620 Rolls off the tongue.
00:20:25.640 It is way better.
00:20:25.720 But none of us want to
00:20:26.880 seem like posers by taking
00:20:29.540 your y'all.
00:20:30.640 So I know some of you
00:20:31.460 write and say, Buck, you
00:20:32.280 can do it because I have
00:20:33.680 honorary Southern
00:20:34.620 privileges.
00:20:35.900 But we really should just
00:20:37.040 as an American thing get
00:20:38.900 to everybody can say.
00:20:40.340 By the way, is your
00:20:41.060 honorary Southern
00:20:42.060 privilege that you married
00:20:43.560 a girl from the South?
00:20:44.620 Is that why you think you
00:20:45.840 have the ability to say
00:20:47.120 y'all or is it the
00:20:48.080 movement to Florida?
00:20:49.080 What if you had moved to
00:20:49.920 Florida and just married
00:20:51.040 another New Yorker in
00:20:52.040 Florida?
00:20:52.500 No, I actually you.
00:20:54.080 I think it's just because I
00:20:55.160 do this show and
00:20:56.060 Southerners in their 0.84
00:20:57.040 graciousness.
00:20:57.940 It's like giving me the
00:20:59.020 key to the city or
00:20:59.900 something.
00:21:00.480 It's like an honorary
00:21:01.560 Ph.D.
00:21:02.440 I have honorary because we
00:21:04.360 have such enormous
00:21:05.340 audiences in Southern
00:21:06.680 States.
00:21:07.160 We do have a big
00:21:07.980 audience.
00:21:08.560 You know, yeah, no, I
00:21:10.580 think, look, my wife has 0.99
00:21:11.760 been down in the South
00:21:13.340 for 24 years and it took
00:21:15.760 her a while to get 0.98
00:21:16.660 comfortable saying y'all,
00:21:17.940 but it is a way better
00:21:19.300 word than the alternative.
00:21:21.200 Like you guys, it's way
00:21:22.540 more efficient, way more
00:21:23.600 effective.
00:21:24.060 And so, yeah, I think
00:21:26.100 the whole nation should
00:21:26.860 adopt it.
00:21:28.200 Now, back to
00:21:29.200 Christiane Amonpour.
00:21:32.260 Very fancy, but
00:21:34.860 also very sorry
00:21:36.180 because she said
00:21:36.920 something really, really 1.00
00:21:38.180 stupid. 1.00
00:21:38.720 Let's start with the 1.00
00:21:39.380 stupid thing that she 1.00
00:21:40.380 said that she had to 1.00
00:21:41.340 apologize for.
00:21:42.200 Play that.
00:21:43.660 People who start to
00:21:44.600 talk to the hostages
00:21:46.100 who've only just been
00:21:47.000 released will find that
00:21:48.400 it will take a long,
00:21:50.000 long time for them to
00:21:51.600 recover physically, but
00:21:53.440 also mentally.
00:21:54.400 It's been a terrible,
00:21:55.920 terrible two years for
00:21:56.840 them because not only
00:21:57.920 are they there, you
00:21:59.020 know, they're probably
00:21:59.780 being treated better than
00:22:00.840 the average Garzan because
00:22:01.960 they are the pawns and the
00:22:03.380 chips that Hamas had.
00:22:05.060 Now Hamas has given up all
00:22:06.200 its leverage, by the way,
00:22:07.520 by giving them all up.
00:22:09.660 Better than, Clay, she 1.00
00:22:10.860 said, probably.
00:22:11.660 Better than Garzan.
00:22:12.320 I know.
00:22:13.300 I know.
00:22:14.860 I know.
00:22:15.740 That is probably wild.
00:22:17.000 Go back to the last 15
00:22:19.780 seconds of that.
00:22:20.820 Can we cut through into
00:22:22.000 that?
00:22:22.240 Because not only, there
00:22:23.380 are two things that she 0.96
00:22:24.260 said there that I think
00:22:25.140 are significant and
00:22:26.200 actually she's telling on
00:22:27.420 herself.
00:22:28.280 One, the hostages that
00:22:30.720 were made to dig their
00:22:31.980 own graves, most of whom
00:22:34.040 were actually killed,
00:22:35.760 murdered by the people 1.00
00:22:37.140 holding them.
00:22:37.800 The people that have not
00:22:38.720 been above ground, some
00:22:40.380 of them in years, they're
00:22:42.900 probably being treated
00:22:44.340 better than the average
00:22:45.680 person in Gaza.
00:22:46.660 That's what she said.
00:22:47.800 She also pointed out
00:22:49.100 here something.
00:22:50.360 She said, well, this is a
00:22:51.520 big risk for Hamas 0.98
00:22:52.700 because they're giving up
00:22:53.980 their leverage.
00:22:55.840 This is something that
00:22:56.500 everybody, she sounds
00:22:57.400 like a Hamas. 0.87
00:22:58.080 She sounds like a Hamas 1.00
00:22:59.340 negotiator.
00:23:00.160 Honestly, she sounds like
00:23:01.200 she could be doing the
00:23:02.620 Hamas back and forth with 0.96
00:23:05.000 Trump, et cetera, herself. 0.89
00:23:07.100 And she's saying that
00:23:09.220 because Hamas has told
00:23:11.260 her that, right?
00:23:12.300 She's not.
00:23:12.840 She has bought into the
00:23:14.000 idea that Hamas, the 0.99
00:23:15.900 average person in Gaza,
00:23:17.180 is being treated way
00:23:19.140 worse than the average
00:23:20.680 hostage.
00:23:21.220 Play that backside again 1.00
00:23:22.480 and then we'll play her
00:23:23.440 apology where she tried
00:23:24.780 to clean it up.
00:23:25.600 But sometimes you got to
00:23:26.800 listen to people because
00:23:27.640 they will tell on
00:23:28.780 themselves.
00:23:30.100 And again, this was live
00:23:31.560 television.
00:23:32.260 Christiane Namantar, who
00:23:34.360 owes 75 percent of her
00:23:36.020 entire career, at least to
00:23:37.400 the fact that she has an
00:23:38.260 interesting accent that
00:23:39.240 makes her sound smarter
00:23:40.200 than she is.
00:23:41.260 Listen.
00:23:41.660 Terrible, terrible two
00:23:42.780 years for them because
00:23:43.520 not only are they there,
00:23:45.120 you know, they're probably
00:23:46.080 being treated better than
00:23:47.140 the average Gazan because 0.52
00:23:48.260 they are the pawns and the
00:23:49.680 chips that Hamas had.
00:23:51.340 Now Hamas has given up all
00:23:52.500 its leverage, by the way,
00:23:53.820 by giving them all up.
00:23:56.100 Probably being treated
00:23:57.620 better than the average
00:23:59.200 Gazan.
00:24:00.380 Christiane Namantar on how
00:24:03.820 the hostages are being
00:24:04.900 treated.
00:24:05.300 OK, that was I'm glad we
00:24:06.840 played that.
00:24:07.780 Then she had to clean it
00:24:09.120 up because a lot of people
00:24:10.540 saw that clip and said,
00:24:12.400 my God, how did that air?
00:24:15.060 And here was clean up on
00:24:17.100 Isle Amanpour.
00:24:18.600 This was CNN.
00:24:19.580 Listen, I noted that for
00:24:20.900 the hostages who are
00:24:21.900 finally home, it'll take a
00:24:23.180 long time for them to
00:24:24.180 recover mentally and
00:24:25.260 physically.
00:24:26.040 But I regret also saying
00:24:27.260 that they might have been
00:24:28.260 treated better than many
00:24:29.520 Gazans because Hamas used 0.98
00:24:31.660 these hostages as pawns and
00:24:33.980 bargaining chips.
00:24:34.820 But that was insensitive
00:24:36.180 and it was wrong from
00:24:37.240 speaking to many former
00:24:38.580 hostages and their
00:24:39.800 families.
00:24:40.740 Like everyone, I've been
00:24:41.520 horrified at what Hamas 0.65
00:24:42.880 has subjected them to over
00:24:44.640 two long years.
00:24:46.980 OK, the first the first
00:24:48.380 version was what she really
00:24:49.340 thinks, just to be correct.
00:24:50.780 The apology was by CNN
00:24:52.740 corporate leadership saying 1.00
00:24:54.540 you moron, we don't want to 1.00
00:24:56.760 have to fire you after 30 1.00
00:24:58.120 years of you being an
00:24:59.120 overpaid, you know,
00:25:00.460 zero.
00:25:01.240 But you better go out
00:25:03.520 there and clean this up
00:25:04.500 right away.
00:25:04.980 But she actually believed
00:25:06.360 the first thing that she
00:25:07.180 said, because there are a
00:25:08.840 lot of people who have
00:25:09.860 adopted this narrative of
00:25:11.360 the Gazans.
00:25:12.320 The casualty, the real
00:25:13.920 casualty figures for Gaza
00:25:15.580 are something like one
00:25:17.280 percent of the overall
00:25:18.200 population.
00:25:18.840 That's the actual cat.
00:25:20.320 So ninety nine percent of
00:25:21.600 Gazans in a so-called
00:25:23.060 genocide and starvation
00:25:24.500 scenario.
00:25:25.160 Ninety nine percent of them
00:25:26.320 are are not were not in
00:25:28.860 any way killed or
00:25:29.820 were casual.
00:25:30.620 The one percent is also 0.91
00:25:31.960 important here, Buck.
00:25:33.140 It's because Hamas was 0.97
00:25:34.640 using them as human
00:25:35.680 shields, human shields.
00:25:36.660 So it's not the number.
00:25:38.600 And look, Israel is 0.85
00:25:39.520 imperfect, as everyone
00:25:40.780 is in a time of war.
00:25:43.200 But this was probably the
00:25:45.400 most targeted attack on
00:25:47.220 bad guys that we have
00:25:48.920 ever seen in the history
00:25:50.380 of modern warfare, of
00:25:52.060 warfare at all.
00:25:53.120 Remember, look at what
00:25:54.080 they did in Iran.
00:25:54.960 Some of the things that
00:25:55.700 they did, they went into
00:25:57.300 apartment buildings and
00:25:58.560 took out Iranian leaders
00:26:00.520 in the nuclear arms race
00:26:02.300 and didn't even hit the
00:26:03.940 rest of the apartment.
00:26:05.380 So when they're out
00:26:06.980 there saying, oh, my
00:26:07.980 goodness, all these people
00:26:09.080 are innocent being killed.
00:26:10.380 Some innocent people are
00:26:11.480 killed in times of war.
00:26:12.500 That is unfortunate.
00:26:13.480 That is a reality.
00:26:14.740 But that's an intentional
00:26:16.220 move by Hamas because
00:26:18.440 they put so many of their
00:26:20.260 facilities under hospitals,
00:26:22.000 under schools, in places
00:26:24.080 so they can point and say,
00:26:25.260 no, there's nothing wrong
00:26:26.260 here.
00:26:26.500 Remember, Buck, in the
00:26:27.720 early days, remember when
00:26:28.540 every newspaper put that
00:26:30.580 Israel had hit a hospital
00:26:31.820 and then it came out that
00:26:33.020 it was actually Hamas that 0.84
00:26:34.080 hit it and it just kind of
00:26:35.060 vanished?
00:26:36.140 Yeah.
00:26:36.320 Well, this also, though, is
00:26:38.220 a reminder when we want to
00:26:39.860 talk about the moral clarity
00:26:41.160 with which people should
00:26:42.200 look at this conflict.
00:26:44.800 The they could have avoided
00:26:46.420 a single Palestinian 0.97
00:26:47.660 casualty if Hamas just 0.95
00:26:50.300 didn't do what it did,
00:26:51.820 didn't do October 7th.
00:26:53.640 Correct.
00:26:53.860 Or even in the aftermath
00:26:55.040 of October 7th of Hamas
00:26:56.400 leadership of the Palestinian
00:26:57.400 people have been like, you
00:26:58.160 know what, you take these
00:26:59.480 bums and do with them
00:27:00.440 whatever you want.
00:27:01.380 They're out and we're
00:27:03.640 giving you back your
00:27:04.460 hostages and you take our
00:27:06.580 Hamas leaders and try them 1.00
00:27:08.240 and execute those that, you 1.00
00:27:09.380 know, whatever. 0.98
00:27:11.120 They would have saved a lot
00:27:12.260 of civilian casualties that
00:27:13.260 way, too.
00:27:14.080 But they chose to fight
00:27:15.300 after starting the fight.
00:27:17.200 If you start a fight and
00:27:18.760 then you choose to fight,
00:27:19.760 you don't get to cry when
00:27:21.040 you lose the fight, which is
00:27:22.320 exactly what has been going
00:27:23.360 on here the whole time.
00:27:24.940 By the way, President
00:27:25.940 Trump just tweeted.
00:27:28.400 We'll read this maybe
00:27:29.560 when we come back.
00:27:30.700 He's been on the call
00:27:31.720 with Putin our whole show
00:27:32.800 so far today, Buck.
00:27:34.340 He just hung up with
00:27:35.900 Vladimir Putin.
00:27:36.820 So he has been talking
00:27:37.960 for Putin.
00:27:38.620 I mean, we've been talking
00:27:39.480 for an hour and 20
00:27:40.600 minutes already.
00:27:42.380 Before we started the show,
00:27:43.900 he was on the call with
00:27:44.960 Putin.
00:27:45.300 Well, hold on.
00:27:46.280 Here we have.
00:27:47.040 I have just concluded my
00:27:48.400 telephone conversation with
00:27:50.100 President Putin of Russia.
00:27:51.780 Very productive one.
00:27:53.140 President Putin congratulated
00:27:54.920 me in the United States on
00:27:56.240 the great accomplishment of
00:27:57.320 peace in the Middle East,
00:27:58.640 something that he said has
00:27:59.740 been dreamed about for
00:28:00.620 centuries.
00:28:01.380 I actually believe the
00:28:02.380 success in the Middle East
00:28:03.440 will help in our negotiation
00:28:04.900 and attaining an end to the
00:28:05.920 war with Russia, Ukraine.
00:28:07.480 President Putin thanked
00:28:08.600 First Lady Melania for her
00:28:10.200 involvement with children.
00:28:11.300 Very appreciative.
00:28:12.180 Said this will continue.
00:28:13.620 We also spent a great deal
00:28:14.800 of time talking about trade
00:28:16.080 between Russia and the 0.76
00:28:16.960 United States when the war
00:28:18.140 with Ukraine is over.
00:28:19.320 At the conclusion of the
00:28:21.200 call, we agreed there will be
00:28:23.100 a meeting of our high-level
00:28:24.640 advisors next week.
00:28:26.360 The United States initial
00:28:27.480 meetings will be led by
00:28:28.620 Secretary of State Marco
00:28:29.760 Rubio together with various
00:28:31.580 other people to be designated,
00:28:33.680 a meeting location to be
00:28:34.960 determined.
00:28:35.820 President Putin and I will
00:28:37.880 then meet in an agreed-upon
00:28:39.380 location, Budapest, Hungary,
00:28:41.740 to see if we can bring this
00:28:43.260 inglorious war between Russia
00:28:45.500 and Ukraine to an end.
00:28:46.800 President Zelensky and I will
00:28:48.540 be meeting tomorrow in the
00:28:49.640 Oval Office where we will
00:28:50.940 discuss my conversation with
00:28:52.480 President Putin and much
00:28:54.080 more.
00:28:54.700 I believe great progress was
00:28:56.460 made with today's telephone
00:28:58.720 conversation.
00:28:59.620 That is President Trump two
00:29:01.660 minutes ago.
00:29:02.740 I hope President Trump is
00:29:04.080 right.
00:29:04.960 Let's see.
00:29:06.340 That's, I think, where we
00:29:07.300 have to be.
00:29:07.800 We'll continue to look at the
00:29:08.940 details and see if we can get
00:29:10.140 a little more of a readout,
00:29:11.920 some of the specifics from
00:29:13.020 the conversation.
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00:30:51.360 One is, some of you have been saying
00:30:52.740 that Fetterman voted to keep the
00:30:54.300 government open.
00:30:55.160 There's been a lot of these votes,
00:30:56.380 and until there's agreement from the
00:30:58.980 Democrat side, it's really just a
00:31:00.580 going through the motions gesture.
00:31:03.800 But in a recent vote, as I see here,
00:31:06.380 two days ago, six senators did not
00:31:09.580 vote to reopen the government, including
00:31:11.540 Senator John Fetterman of
00:31:12.600 Pennsylvania.
00:31:14.160 So, at least in a recent one, he
00:31:16.060 didn't vote.
00:31:17.300 Now, I guess he's been vocally
00:31:18.780 supportive of reopening the
00:31:20.620 government as well.
00:31:22.340 But, you know, let me see.
00:31:24.620 Fetterman's statement on the
00:31:26.340 government shutdown.
00:31:27.860 Fetterman's not the reason the
00:31:29.020 government is shut down.
00:31:29.920 Look, the reality is you got to get
00:31:32.380 to 60, and I don't believe we've
00:31:35.400 gotten to more than 55 or 56 so far.
00:31:39.100 I think they need four more
00:31:40.220 Democrats in order to open the
00:31:41.900 government.
00:31:42.440 According to Fetterman, he voted yes
00:31:44.360 to extend the ACA tax credits, but he
00:31:47.640 won't vote for the shuttering of the
00:31:49.480 government.
00:31:50.380 So, he voted in favor of House and
00:31:53.720 Senate Democrats' alternative continuing
00:31:55.740 resolution.
00:31:57.380 Anyway, whatever, guys.
00:31:59.280 He's caught in the middle of this
00:32:00.300 one.
00:32:01.100 There's been a bunch of different
00:32:02.220 votes here.
00:32:04.420 I'm just trying to see.
00:32:05.940 Yeah.
00:32:06.500 He voted with the Democrats on this,
00:32:08.240 but I guess he says he wouldn't have
00:32:09.360 voted.
00:32:09.900 Whatever.
00:32:11.080 I don't know.
00:32:12.180 I find...
00:32:13.400 Let me just say this.
00:32:15.720 Eventually, the government is going to
00:32:17.060 reopen, and we are going to run,
00:32:19.580 unfortunately, massive deficits for
00:32:22.460 years.
00:32:23.000 They're going to take a lot of our
00:32:24.140 money, and they are going to continue
00:32:26.680 to spend it, and none of us are going
00:32:28.260 to be happy about it.
00:32:29.300 So, I'll also want to throw this out
00:32:32.160 there.
00:32:32.620 If any one of you have done...
00:32:33.780 We have a lot of California listeners.
00:32:35.680 If any of you have done the Catalina
00:32:37.160 Island Channel swim, please call in.
00:32:39.620 I want to hear what it's like.
00:32:41.100 I looked this up because I was
00:32:42.500 wondering also, because to me, swimming
00:32:44.600 at night, you're generally advised...
00:32:46.640 I know maybe I'm a little too freaked
00:32:47.880 out about sharks, okay?
00:32:48.820 Maybe we've established that I have
00:32:50.160 shark attack phobia or something, but
00:32:53.380 I've seen Jaws too many times.
00:32:54.840 In fact, I've seen all of them, and
00:32:56.440 they get really bad after Jaws 2.
00:32:58.660 I mean, even Jaws 2 is kind of a stretch.
00:32:59.740 A lot of money grabs going on, yeah.
00:33:01.540 Yeah, the Jaws movies really...
00:33:04.380 They sink to the bottom of the ocean,
00:33:06.620 if you ask me.
00:33:08.260 But the reason they do it at night...
00:33:11.380 Generally, you don't want to swim at
00:33:12.740 night because it's harder to find you.
00:33:15.420 Riptides and also sharks.
00:33:17.460 Sharks are more active feeding at night.
00:33:19.180 But the reason they do it is because
00:33:22.120 of all the heavy...
00:33:24.080 Boat traffic.
00:33:24.820 Boat traffic, exactly.
00:33:26.240 That's what I was saying.
00:33:27.240 Which is even a bigger risk to swimmers
00:33:29.900 because there's a lot of boats that are
00:33:31.740 moving in that area, and you don't want
00:33:33.420 obviously any problems with that.
00:33:34.640 So that's why they do it at night.
00:33:35.980 Okay.
00:33:36.860 Clarified that.
00:33:37.640 The Fetterman vote thing.
00:33:38.860 Sounds like he's trying to play a little
00:33:40.020 bit of both sides on it, but nonetheless,
00:33:42.280 that's where we are.
00:33:43.740 So, with that, sir, I wanted to...
00:33:48.940 You wanted to dive into your boy, Mom Donnie,
00:33:51.440 who was on with Martha McCollum yesterday
00:33:54.580 afternoon on Fox News.
00:33:56.180 Not born in America, so cannot be president.
00:33:58.540 Glad we clarified.
00:33:59.500 I'd forgotten that he was born in Uganda.
00:34:03.240 Yep.
00:34:04.480 You know, I actually...
00:34:05.380 Random side note here.
00:34:07.320 I had a good friend in college
00:34:09.660 who was Ugandan,
00:34:12.660 and he...
00:34:14.860 His father came home one day
00:34:17.980 and said,
00:34:20.180 pack a bag to his family,
00:34:22.000 to his two sons and his wife,
00:34:24.100 pack a bag right now.
00:34:26.240 We are going to the airport.
00:34:28.880 And his father was a lawyer in Uganda
00:34:33.940 at the time of Idi Amin's reign
00:34:37.780 as president,
00:34:39.280 but really as dictator, right?
00:34:40.620 He was effectively the dictator of Uganda
00:34:42.420 who was making perceived enemies disappear.
00:34:45.880 And the story that, again,
00:34:47.600 my friend told me was that
00:34:49.160 his father showed up to the law firm
00:34:52.360 late one day.
00:34:53.220 He had some other business or whatever,
00:34:54.860 and all the partners had been detained
00:34:56.660 and disappeared.
00:34:58.320 Yeah.
00:34:59.420 Wow.
00:35:00.440 Yeah.
00:35:01.320 So, anyway, Uganda,
00:35:02.800 if you have...
00:35:03.860 I've told you before last thing...
00:35:05.080 And they ended up okay.
00:35:05.420 He and the family got out of the country.
00:35:06.960 They got out.
00:35:07.360 Yeah.
00:35:07.600 He made it to how you knew them.
00:35:09.300 His dad became a professor in this country.
00:35:11.800 They...
00:35:12.120 By the way,
00:35:13.020 actual refugees...
00:35:14.900 Yeah.
00:35:15.400 Right.
00:35:16.580 Actual asylum seeker 0.99
00:35:18.320 slash refugee situation. 0.95
00:35:20.240 That's what it's for.
00:35:22.140 It's for 0.96
00:35:23.080 someone's trying to kill me
00:35:24.900 just because I, you know,
00:35:26.840 am like an educated member
00:35:28.080 of the political opposition.
00:35:29.180 Will you please take in my family?
00:35:31.300 It is not,
00:35:32.140 hey, I just crossed the border
00:35:33.680 and I want to make more money here
00:35:35.460 slash get access to your welfare.
00:35:37.500 Anyway.
00:35:38.340 But if you have not...
00:35:40.000 On the Uganda front,
00:35:41.240 sorry to remind you,
00:35:43.200 Momdani's middle name is Kwame.
00:35:45.340 Remember we talked about this?
00:35:46.760 Oh, yes.
00:35:46.900 And he tried to pretend 0.90
00:35:48.460 that he was black 0.87
00:35:50.180 for purposes of...
00:35:52.140 Or mixed race 0.99
00:35:52.940 for purposes of his Columbia application
00:35:56.160 when he clicked African American
00:35:58.380 on the...
00:35:59.100 I know a lot of people
00:35:59.720 have stopped talking about that.
00:36:01.520 But he did that
00:36:02.400 because he was born in Uganda
00:36:03.840 and his middle name,
00:36:05.360 he's Zoran Kwame Momdani.
00:36:08.240 And so he was hoping,
00:36:09.460 I think,
00:36:10.060 that the admissions counselors
00:36:11.220 would think,
00:36:12.160 oh,
00:36:12.600 how many Kwames from Africa
00:36:14.680 are not partly black
00:36:17.640 and that he would help him
00:36:19.320 get into Columbia,
00:36:20.580 which did not work.
00:36:21.640 My Ugandan friend 0.69
00:36:22.980 was most certainly black. 0.79
00:36:24.800 And...
00:36:25.000 Yes.
00:36:25.800 And, yes.
00:36:27.020 And he fled.
00:36:28.420 And I would say,
00:36:29.600 if you have not seen
00:36:30.400 Last King of Scotland,
00:36:32.320 that is a...
00:36:33.100 Which deals with this...
00:36:34.240 It's a fictionalized...
00:36:35.540 Great movie.
00:36:35.580 But it deals with...
00:36:36.440 Great movie.
00:36:37.020 ...with Idi Amin
00:36:38.100 and what it was like
00:36:38.980 under his reign.
00:36:39.840 And it is a...
00:36:40.560 It is a great movie.
00:36:42.040 Underrated, I think,
00:36:43.660 and kind of forgotten now,
00:36:44.700 but a really, really good watch.
00:36:46.020 Although there's a very...
00:36:46.600 Forrest Whitaker
00:36:47.060 is the star in that movie, right?
00:36:49.280 Really, really...
00:36:50.060 He plays the lead dictator.
00:36:51.620 Who I also think of...
00:36:51.980 Yeah.
00:36:52.220 I think of as an underrated actor
00:36:53.620 in general also.
00:36:55.580 I think Forrest Whitaker...
00:36:57.080 You know, people who know
00:36:58.340 know that he's actually
00:36:59.560 a really good,
00:37:00.240 really good actor.
00:37:01.580 And he was phenomenal
00:37:02.500 in that role.
00:37:04.180 But, yeah, he's...
00:37:05.400 Yeah, some of the scenes
00:37:06.280 will kind of traumatize you.
00:37:07.920 I kind of wish they actually
00:37:08.800 had toned it down a little bit
00:37:10.120 with some of the brutality.
00:37:11.680 But, anyway,
00:37:12.320 it's a very, very good movie.
00:37:14.960 And there we have it.
00:37:16.000 Okay.
00:37:16.960 Now, Zoran Mamdani,
00:37:18.800 born in Uganda,
00:37:20.440 Zoran Mamdani,
00:37:21.160 here he is.
00:37:22.360 When he sat down
00:37:23.180 with Martha McCallum,
00:37:24.040 she got the exclusive yesterday
00:37:25.480 to sit down with him on Fox.
00:37:27.480 And I will note
00:37:28.600 that you're going to see, Clay,
00:37:30.980 more Democrats
00:37:32.160 who realize
00:37:34.040 they have to do this now.
00:37:35.800 They have to be willing
00:37:37.320 to sit down
00:37:38.240 with not-puff media
00:37:40.920 that's just going to tell them
00:37:42.060 how amazing they are
00:37:43.160 because they don't have
00:37:44.360 the same media ecosystem
00:37:46.640 dominance that they used to.
00:37:49.100 So you're going to have
00:37:49.760 to go in
00:37:50.440 and talk to people
00:37:51.540 at Fox News.
00:37:52.600 Increasingly,
00:37:52.960 I'm not saying
00:37:53.360 it's going to be everywhere,
00:37:54.120 but you're going to see
00:37:54.640 more of this.
00:37:56.020 Look, Gavin Newsom's
00:37:56.920 been doing it,
00:37:57.420 obviously,
00:37:57.760 because he does want
00:37:58.780 to run for president.
00:37:59.960 But he was asked,
00:38:00.620 Zoran Mamdani was asked
00:38:01.620 about Hamas
00:38:02.420 and whether they should
00:38:03.580 lay down their arms.
00:38:04.420 This is cut 22.
00:38:05.300 This is what he said.
00:38:05.920 I have no issue
00:38:08.340 with critiquing Hamas
00:38:09.740 or the Israeli government
00:38:10.720 because my critiques
00:38:11.460 all come from a place
00:38:12.720 of universal human rights.
00:38:13.980 And my focus, however,
00:38:14.920 is right here in New York City
00:38:16.060 and transforming
00:38:16.640 the most expensive city
00:38:17.660 in America
00:38:18.080 into one that's affordable
00:38:19.160 for each and every New Yorker.
00:38:20.160 But, okay,
00:38:20.820 and I want to get to that,
00:38:21.900 absolutely.
00:38:22.600 But do you believe
00:38:23.820 that Hamas should lay down
00:38:24.980 their weapons
00:38:25.500 and leave the leadership
00:38:26.780 in Gaza?
00:38:27.760 I believe that any future
00:38:29.100 here in New York City
00:38:30.520 is one that we have to make sure
00:38:31.860 that's affordable for all
00:38:32.760 and as it pertains
00:38:33.420 to Israel and Palestine,
00:38:34.700 that we have to ensure
00:38:35.560 that there is peace
00:38:36.260 and that is the future
00:38:37.420 that we have to fight for.
00:38:38.460 But you won't say
00:38:38.980 that Hamas should lay down
00:38:39.900 their arms
00:38:40.420 and give up leadership
00:38:41.340 in Gaza.
00:38:41.880 I don't really have opinions
00:38:42.820 about the future
00:38:43.480 of Hamas and Israel
00:38:44.920 beyond the question
00:38:45.740 of justice and safety
00:38:46.920 and the fact that anything
00:38:48.260 has to abide
00:38:49.040 by international law.
00:38:50.300 And that applies to Hamas, 0.90
00:38:51.320 that applies to the Israeli military,
00:38:52.720 applies to anyone
00:38:53.180 you could ask me about.
00:38:54.480 Clay, it sounds a little bit
00:38:55.980 like Abigail Spanberger
00:38:57.440 being asked about
00:38:59.220 the trans issue
00:39:00.080 where you hear
00:39:00.760 a bunch of words
00:39:01.640 but you don't get
00:39:02.540 much of an answer.
00:39:03.460 Martha is, I think,
00:39:05.640 one of the best interviewers
00:39:06.940 in news
00:39:07.500 and that's a very
00:39:10.260 direct question.
00:39:12.180 Should the terror
00:39:13.280 organization
00:39:14.480 lay down their arms
00:39:16.620 or not
00:39:17.240 so we can have peace
00:39:18.400 in the Middle East?
00:39:19.200 That's effectively
00:39:19.820 what Martha is asking
00:39:21.060 and he, to your point,
00:39:22.860 went full Abigail Spanberger 0.54
00:39:24.700 and just talked his way
00:39:27.100 out of having to answer
00:39:28.320 that question.
00:39:29.640 Look,
00:39:30.380 Momdani is really glib.
00:39:32.780 He is really articulate.
00:39:35.280 He is a handsome guy.
00:39:37.220 He's way better
00:39:38.460 at saying nothing
00:39:39.700 than Abigail Spanberger is.
00:39:42.800 And he smiles
00:39:44.360 and he knows how to play
00:39:46.200 the television game
00:39:47.420 and I am glad
00:39:49.400 that he was born in Uganda
00:39:51.480 because earlier
00:39:53.220 when you were talking about it,
00:39:54.620 I've thought through this,
00:39:55.760 he would 100%
00:39:57.260 have an American presidential future
00:39:59.200 in his horizon
00:40:01.260 if he had been born
00:40:03.180 in the United States
00:40:04.240 because he is that good
00:40:06.220 at being disarming.
00:40:07.980 He's wrong about everything.
00:40:09.940 I want to be clear.
00:40:11.080 Wrong about everything
00:40:12.380 but talks a good game.
00:40:15.380 And there are a lot of people
00:40:16.820 out there
00:40:17.440 that if you smile,
00:40:18.960 I have talked about this
00:40:19.900 with people on television
00:40:21.060 for years.
00:40:22.440 You can deliver
00:40:25.300 absolute missiles
00:40:28.020 if you smile
00:40:29.840 while you do it
00:40:31.080 and if the better looking
00:40:32.380 you are,
00:40:33.000 the more you can get away
00:40:34.100 with it.
00:40:35.340 I joked about this
00:40:36.940 with Tommy Lahren
00:40:37.920 who works at OutKick.
00:40:39.740 Go listen to some
00:40:40.860 of the bullets
00:40:43.520 that Tommy Lahren
00:40:44.740 metaphorically is firing
00:40:47.120 but she is so good
00:40:49.260 at smiling
00:40:50.480 while she does it
00:40:51.720 and she is gutting people 1.00
00:40:54.060 and they don't even realize it.
00:40:56.800 And Mom Donnie
00:40:57.580 is a handsome,
00:40:59.520 good looking,
00:41:00.940 telegenic
00:41:02.180 disciple
00:41:03.760 of all the wrong messaging
00:41:05.760 but he does it so well
00:41:07.960 that a lot of people
00:41:09.340 just don't even recognize
00:41:11.780 what he's arguing.
00:41:12.740 And then there are other things
00:41:13.860 that really appeal
00:41:15.580 to young people.
00:41:17.120 Hey, groceries
00:41:17.920 are too expensive.
00:41:19.360 Why doesn't the city
00:41:20.240 of New York
00:41:20.860 just run its own
00:41:22.000 grocery store
00:41:22.860 and then everything
00:41:23.560 will be cheaper?
00:41:25.140 Hey, man,
00:41:26.920 rent's really expensive.
00:41:28.480 We should just
00:41:29.160 freeze rent.
00:41:30.700 That'll solve
00:41:31.420 all the problems.
00:41:33.020 When you lack
00:41:34.260 basic economic knowledge,
00:41:36.380 you come up
00:41:37.260 with lots of answers
00:41:38.440 to challenging situations
00:41:40.200 that actually make
00:41:41.700 the challenging
00:41:42.320 situation worse
00:41:43.740 but they have
00:41:44.920 the illusion
00:41:45.580 of success
00:41:46.760 for people
00:41:47.800 who are often
00:41:48.760 too young 1.00
00:41:49.540 or too ignorant 1.00
00:41:50.660 to recognize 1.00
00:41:51.620 that they're going
00:41:52.580 to end up
00:41:53.020 in a worse shape.
00:41:53.840 You know who doesn't
00:41:54.220 get frozen buck?
00:41:55.720 Mortgage.
00:41:56.700 The mortgages
00:41:57.240 that the landlords
00:41:58.100 have to pay.
00:41:59.380 Their rates
00:42:00.360 of payments
00:42:01.720 don't get helped.
00:42:02.580 I mean,
00:42:02.720 it's all broken.
00:42:03.740 You're leading right
00:42:04.700 into what I wanted
00:42:05.680 to dive into
00:42:06.540 which is somebody
00:42:07.260 who lived in New York
00:42:08.200 and had to deal
00:42:08.900 with,
00:42:09.800 I mean,
00:42:10.000 I was like 30
00:42:10.960 and had four roommates,
00:42:12.440 right?
00:42:12.600 I mean,
00:42:12.760 this is a very
00:42:13.740 tough place
00:42:14.720 to make a go of it
00:42:16.440 but the reasons
00:42:17.480 for it
00:42:18.100 are not lack
00:42:19.260 of government
00:42:19.860 intervention.
00:42:21.200 The reasons
00:42:22.000 for it are
00:42:22.900 largely,
00:42:25.680 I would argue,
00:42:27.440 government doing
00:42:28.440 too many things
00:42:29.300 the wrong way
00:42:30.240 and thinking
00:42:31.140 that it can just
00:42:32.120 create
00:42:33.220 by fiat
00:42:34.520 market conditions,
00:42:37.440 right?
00:42:37.680 And then those
00:42:38.480 market conditions
00:42:39.260 that actually exist
00:42:40.460 after the government
00:42:41.240 intervention happens
00:42:42.380 are incredible.
00:42:43.900 It's the same thing
00:42:44.320 in California housing
00:42:45.140 by the way.
00:42:46.520 California,
00:42:47.100 it's like,
00:42:47.360 why is housing
00:42:47.840 so expensive?
00:42:48.440 Why is a house
00:42:49.260 so expensive
00:42:49.800 in California?
00:42:51.480 Well,
00:42:52.080 it's because
00:42:52.980 there's all these
00:42:53.920 regulations
00:42:54.480 and all these permits
00:42:55.460 and all these things
00:42:56.420 that go into the process.
00:42:57.940 You know,
00:42:58.120 recently they did
00:42:58.840 an analysis,
00:42:59.560 Clay,
00:42:59.840 and I think
00:43:00.320 it was in Canada,
00:43:01.460 another very liberal place,
00:43:02.820 right,
00:43:03.120 left-wing place,
00:43:04.380 and something like
00:43:05.360 50% of the cost
00:43:06.500 of a new house
00:43:07.020 in Canada
00:43:07.480 is purely
00:43:08.320 regulation,
00:43:09.500 taxes,
00:43:09.840 and permits.
00:43:10.600 50%!
00:43:12.220 And I mean,
00:43:12.900 if you looked at
00:43:13.400 what it is in California,
00:43:14.460 remember when they were
00:43:14.900 going to build
00:43:15.260 the million-dollar
00:43:16.000 port-a-potty,
00:43:16.680 essentially?
00:43:17.500 I think it was
00:43:18.160 in San Francisco.
00:43:19.400 They were going to spend
00:43:20.200 a million dollars
00:43:22.040 on a public
00:43:23.500 single-occupancy
00:43:25.180 bath for everybody.
00:43:26.160 That's a port-a-potty. 1.00
00:43:27.880 How do you spend
00:43:29.000 a million dollars
00:43:29.700 on a port-a-potty?
00:43:30.780 California.
00:43:31.760 Gavin Newsom.
00:43:32.500 has an answer
00:43:33.420 for you.
00:43:34.280 New York City,
00:43:35.180 Clay,
00:43:35.640 20% of New Yorkers,
00:43:38.400 something like
00:43:38.940 1.4 million people
00:43:41.440 are in subsidized,
00:43:43.540 almost free,
00:43:45.000 depends on which kind
00:43:45.840 of subsidized housing,
00:43:47.740 and then they make
00:43:48.980 it very expensive
00:43:50.180 and very difficult
00:43:50.800 to create new housing.
00:43:52.640 Guess what?
00:43:53.660 This makes market
00:43:54.740 conditions
00:43:55.340 where everything
00:43:56.360 is pricier.
00:43:57.180 The 2% 1.00
00:43:59.260 surcharge
00:44:00.200 that Momdani
00:44:00.820 says he's going
00:44:01.420 to charge
00:44:01.860 on incomes
00:44:02.560 to make life
00:44:03.720 less expensive
00:44:04.780 for people
00:44:05.460 is a joke.
00:44:07.460 It is not even
00:44:08.340 scratching
00:44:09.260 at the problem.
00:44:11.300 It also reminds me
00:44:12.140 of your bathroom
00:44:12.800 analogy.
00:44:13.700 Remember when they
00:44:14.100 were going to build
00:44:14.720 a nationwide network
00:44:16.020 of charging stations
00:44:17.100 for all the e-vehicles?
00:44:19.160 And then the numbers
00:44:20.200 came out that they
00:44:21.060 had spent billions
00:44:21.980 of dollars and somehow
00:44:23.100 added like seven
00:44:24.320 charging stations?
00:44:25.180 The government
00:44:26.460 can't do anything
00:44:27.320 efficiently or effectively,
00:44:28.600 which is why we need
00:44:29.840 to get the government
00:44:30.560 out of as much
00:44:32.120 as we possibly can.
00:44:33.960 We'll play a couple
00:44:34.680 more of these
00:44:35.140 Momdani cuts
00:44:35.960 because I do think
00:44:36.620 they're very significant.
00:44:38.460 Also, we got Obama
00:44:39.880 coming in to the
00:44:41.160 Virginia governor's race.
00:44:42.800 And I saw this
00:44:43.620 AOC on masculinity,
00:44:45.060 but also, Buck,
00:44:46.020 did you see that
00:44:47.000 AI articles
00:44:49.280 now make up
00:44:51.280 the majority
00:44:51.960 of articles
00:44:52.840 published on the
00:44:53.700 internet already
00:44:54.600 just in the
00:44:55.780 two years
00:44:56.880 that AI
00:44:57.340 has taken off?
00:44:58.600 I think this is
00:44:59.200 the book industry,
00:45:00.060 which you and I
00:45:00.540 are still in
00:45:01.200 for what it's worth.
00:45:03.140 I don't know
00:45:03.940 what's going to
00:45:04.340 happen now.
00:45:04.940 It's gone from
00:45:05.480 ghost writers
00:45:06.100 to AI writers
00:45:06.920 is what you're
00:45:07.380 going to see.
00:45:08.060 I can tell you
00:45:08.560 I wrote my book
00:45:09.380 and I know
00:45:09.780 Clay wrote his book
00:45:10.660 because I know
00:45:11.320 the people in the
00:45:11.880 publishing industry
00:45:12.480 who are reading
00:45:12.920 these things.
00:45:14.480 That's unfortunately
00:45:15.280 going to become
00:45:15.720 a vanishingly
00:45:16.660 small number
00:45:17.380 of books
00:45:17.960 that you're
00:45:18.320 actually able
00:45:18.860 to buy.
00:45:19.800 No doubt.
00:45:21.040 Look, next week
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00:46:47.060 Welcome back in
00:46:49.080 Clay Travis,
00:46:50.240 Buck Sexton
00:46:51.060 Show.
00:46:52.340 Appreciate all of
00:46:53.120 you hanging out
00:46:54.460 with us.
00:46:55.500 We've got a bunch
00:46:56.540 of different stories
00:46:58.000 that we are
00:46:59.180 chasing today.
00:47:01.020 President Trump
00:47:01.920 had a multi-hour
00:47:03.920 long call with
00:47:05.120 Vladimir Putin.
00:47:06.200 The impact of that
00:47:07.260 call, according to
00:47:08.400 President Trump's
00:47:09.600 statements, are
00:47:11.060 that there will be a
00:47:13.140 meeting between
00:47:14.400 Trump and Putin
00:47:16.060 in Budapest, and
00:47:17.560 that there will
00:47:18.460 be a meeting
00:47:20.660 very soon
00:47:21.840 between high-level
00:47:24.200 advisors.
00:47:25.300 The United States
00:47:25.980 initial meeting
00:47:26.700 will be led,
00:47:27.460 according to
00:47:27.900 President Trump,
00:47:28.740 by Secretary of
00:47:29.560 State Marco Rubio,
00:47:31.220 and a meeting
00:47:32.160 location to be
00:47:33.180 determined.
00:47:34.260 So, the goal
00:47:35.300 there to try and
00:47:36.420 end the war
00:47:37.860 that is taking
00:47:39.320 place right now
00:47:40.380 in Ukraine,
00:47:42.360 President Trump
00:47:43.380 riding a great
00:47:44.780 deal of momentum
00:47:45.540 off of the
00:47:46.740 release of the
00:47:47.700 hostages and
00:47:48.740 the positive
00:47:49.460 directions that
00:47:50.380 things are moving
00:47:51.600 in that context.
00:47:54.140 Now, we also
00:47:55.920 have John
00:47:57.420 Fetterman
00:47:57.920 potentially facing
00:47:59.340 a Senate
00:47:59.840 challenge for
00:48:00.700 not being
00:48:01.440 committed enough
00:48:02.340 to crazy
00:48:03.160 left-wing
00:48:03.800 ideals.
00:48:04.460 That is
00:48:05.080 according to
00:48:05.780 an Axios
00:48:06.580 report.
00:48:07.500 We've been
00:48:08.000 talking about
00:48:08.700 Mom Donnie
00:48:09.460 making his
00:48:10.300 initial appearance
00:48:11.580 on Fox News,
00:48:13.140 Martha McCollum
00:48:14.240 asking the
00:48:15.760 big questions
00:48:16.540 of Mom Donnie
00:48:17.760 and Mom Donnie
00:48:18.540 being, frankly,
00:48:19.540 very good at
00:48:20.820 dodging
00:48:21.340 responsibility for
00:48:22.980 much of his
00:48:24.600 public commentary.
00:48:26.040 Now, he did
00:48:26.960 say, Buck,
00:48:27.700 and I think we
00:48:28.160 have this audio,
00:48:29.080 I want to make
00:48:29.420 sure we pull it
00:48:29.920 up, he did
00:48:31.040 publicly apologize
00:48:32.220 to police
00:48:33.320 officers for
00:48:34.760 saying that he
00:48:36.180 had previously
00:48:37.280 said they should
00:48:38.140 be defunded.
00:48:40.340 He also said
00:48:41.360 it was too
00:48:42.400 early to
00:48:43.620 give Trump
00:48:44.260 credit for
00:48:45.060 the Gaza
00:48:45.580 peace deal,
00:48:46.820 and so let
00:48:47.920 me hit a
00:48:48.300 couple of
00:48:48.740 those.
00:48:49.340 Here is
00:48:49.980 cut 23.
00:48:51.660 Martha McCollum
00:48:52.380 says, hey,
00:48:52.920 does President
00:48:53.440 Trump deserve
00:48:54.280 credit for
00:48:55.100 the peace
00:48:55.580 deal?
00:48:56.320 And Mom Donnie
00:48:57.120 said it's too
00:48:57.760 early.
00:48:58.140 Cut 23.
00:48:58.980 I continue to
00:48:59.520 have concerns
00:49:00.160 because I've
00:49:00.700 seen reports
00:49:01.480 still that
00:49:01.980 in the last
00:49:02.620 few days that
00:49:03.180 five Palestinians
00:49:03.840 were killed by
00:49:04.380 the Israeli
00:49:04.720 military.
00:49:05.300 And that's
00:49:05.540 what gives
00:49:05.800 me pause
00:49:06.240 about issuing
00:49:06.840 any kind
00:49:07.680 of praise
00:49:08.500 or celebration
00:49:09.260 at a moment
00:49:09.780 when it is
00:49:10.160 still so in
00:49:10.840 its infancy.
00:49:11.560 And what I
00:49:11.820 will tell you
00:49:12.400 is that in
00:49:12.980 that same
00:49:13.480 moment, it
00:49:14.100 is also one
00:49:15.120 that requires
00:49:16.300 a focus on
00:49:17.460 ensuring that
00:49:17.980 that hope,
00:49:18.620 that belief in
00:49:19.180 a better future
00:49:19.720 is one that is
00:49:20.540 emblematic in our
00:49:21.280 policies right
00:49:22.100 here in New York
00:49:22.580 City as well.
00:49:23.260 And that's what
00:49:23.620 we're hoping to
00:49:24.100 lead with.
00:49:24.500 Would you give
00:49:24.900 President Trump
00:49:25.380 credit or not,
00:49:26.200 to any extent,
00:49:26.880 credit or not?
00:49:27.600 I think it's
00:49:27.960 too early to do
00:49:28.540 so.
00:49:28.840 Too early to say.
00:49:29.460 But if it
00:49:29.900 proves to be
00:49:30.520 something that is
00:49:30.980 lasting, something
00:49:31.560 that is durable,
00:49:32.320 then I think that
00:49:32.900 that's where
00:49:33.260 you give
00:49:33.480 credit.
00:49:35.240 Can I just
00:49:35.980 one quick thing,
00:49:37.000 Clay, because we
00:49:37.380 talked about it.
00:49:38.460 He's saying the
00:49:39.220 five Palestinians
00:49:40.160 were killed.
00:49:42.220 Where's the
00:49:43.080 outrage?
00:49:44.520 Where's the
00:49:44.920 condemnation?
00:49:45.860 Or even just
00:49:46.400 the conversation
00:49:47.080 about the
00:49:48.580 public
00:49:49.180 executions,
00:49:50.760 summary judgment
00:49:51.640 and execution
00:49:52.320 of captives
00:49:53.780 by Hamas
00:49:54.860 that occurred
00:49:55.760 in the last
00:49:56.240 24 hours?
00:49:57.540 I mean,
00:49:57.760 they're bounding
00:49:59.220 and gagging, 0.62
00:50:01.140 tying up,
00:50:02.080 blindfolding, 0.97
00:50:04.100 and shooting 0.99
00:50:04.880 people in the 0.99
00:50:05.340 back of the
00:50:05.760 head on the
00:50:06.260 street.
00:50:07.600 And I don't
00:50:08.740 see any of
00:50:09.420 these people
00:50:09.900 that are so
00:50:10.340 concerned about
00:50:11.000 Gazans,
00:50:11.560 concerned about
00:50:12.040 those Gazans.
00:50:12.880 It seems quite
00:50:13.360 strange.
00:50:14.780 Yeah, and I
00:50:15.420 also think it's
00:50:16.020 funny the way
00:50:16.600 this is covered.
00:50:17.660 There's a big
00:50:18.160 article in the
00:50:18.640 New York Times
00:50:19.240 about Mom
00:50:19.880 Donnie going
00:50:20.600 on the
00:50:22.360 Martha McCollum
00:50:23.080 show.
00:50:23.540 Here's a couple
00:50:23.980 of the paragraphs.
00:50:24.660 This is how
00:50:25.000 the New York
00:50:25.360 Times covered
00:50:25.920 it.
00:50:26.660 Since Mr.
00:50:27.280 Mom Donnie's
00:50:27.800 rapid rise to
00:50:28.800 the top of
00:50:29.240 New York City
00:50:29.720 politics, Fox
00:50:31.080 News has led
00:50:31.840 a right-wing
00:50:32.460 media effort
00:50:33.120 to characterize
00:50:33.720 him as an
00:50:34.440 avatar of the
00:50:35.320 Democrat Party
00:50:36.000 grown too
00:50:36.640 beholden to
00:50:37.340 its factions
00:50:37.920 on the far
00:50:38.440 left.
00:50:39.360 The network's
00:50:39.940 contributors often
00:50:40.980 point to his
00:50:41.900 thin political
00:50:42.660 experience,
00:50:43.780 past comments
00:50:44.400 about law
00:50:44.920 enforcement,
00:50:45.620 and proposals
00:50:46.140 to increase
00:50:46.920 taxes on New
00:50:47.740 York's wealthiest
00:50:48.500 residents as
00:50:49.700 both disqualifying
00:50:50.720 and dangerous
00:50:51.300 to New York
00:50:51.880 City, America's
00:50:52.820 largest financial
00:50:53.620 center.
00:50:54.300 Yes, this is
00:50:54.980 all very
00:50:55.340 accurate.
00:50:57.100 It's written
00:50:58.020 as if it's
00:50:58.760 like, oh my
00:50:59.320 goodness, can you
00:51:00.020 believe all the
00:51:00.700 crazy things
00:51:01.420 they say on
00:51:02.560 Fox News
00:51:03.080 about Mom
00:51:03.580 Donnie?
00:51:04.360 He wants to
00:51:05.400 tax everyone
00:51:06.300 who makes
00:51:06.760 money in New
00:51:07.360 York City
00:51:07.840 into virtual
00:51:09.300 oblivion.
00:51:10.320 So that is
00:51:10.900 one star of
00:51:12.120 the New York
00:51:12.620 City Democrat
00:51:14.020 Party now.
00:51:15.440 The other
00:51:15.820 star of the
00:51:16.760 New York City
00:51:17.320 Democrat Party
00:51:18.280 in New York
00:51:20.160 City is AOC.
00:51:22.540 And I wanted
00:51:23.580 to play this
00:51:24.080 for you, Buck.
00:51:24.720 This was last
00:51:25.300 night.
00:51:25.640 Bernie Sanders
00:51:26.320 and AOC
00:51:26.960 had a town
00:51:27.680 hall with
00:51:28.160 Caitlin Collins
00:51:28.940 and she was
00:51:31.060 asked, AOC
00:51:31.820 was, why are
00:51:33.260 Republicans
00:51:33.860 successful online?
00:51:36.340 And she said
00:51:37.820 two different
00:51:38.320 things.
00:51:39.340 One, because
00:51:40.580 we'll just
00:51:42.240 listen to her.
00:51:42.780 I won't
00:51:43.080 characterize it.
00:51:43.800 Here's cut
00:51:44.160 18.
00:51:44.820 When they talk
00:51:45.560 about Republicans
00:51:46.280 and their
00:51:47.680 success online,
00:51:49.120 they have been
00:51:49.800 successful because
00:51:50.460 they have also
00:51:51.020 been very clear,
00:51:52.700 especially digitally,
00:51:54.040 about what they
00:51:55.080 believe, that
00:51:56.340 women are 1.00
00:51:56.960 inferior, that 0.98
00:51:58.840 do not, and
00:51:59.340 they do not
00:51:59.860 deserve equal
00:52:00.660 rights, that
00:52:01.900 they believe that
00:52:02.480 LGBTQ Americans 0.88
00:52:04.140 are subhuman, 0.99
00:52:05.800 that they believe
00:52:06.780 and are circulating
00:52:07.820 disgusting racial 1.00
00:52:10.620 and white 1.00
00:52:12.900 supremacist messaging
00:52:14.300 that they are able
00:52:15.180 to get away with
00:52:16.020 digitally and
00:52:17.800 online.
00:52:19.380 Get away with?
00:52:21.340 This is, they
00:52:22.400 have no hope for
00:52:23.120 young men.
00:52:24.040 I mean, I just
00:52:24.460 wrote a book, it's
00:52:25.180 coming out, called
00:52:25.760 Balls Buck, but
00:52:26.720 this is not a
00:52:29.100 good pitch.
00:52:29.840 I just don't
00:52:30.360 think AOC is
00:52:31.180 very aware of
00:52:32.280 how the internet
00:52:32.800 works based on
00:52:33.600 that answer.
00:52:34.620 I want AOC to
00:52:36.400 be the great
00:52:38.360 commie-splainer
00:52:39.540 of masculinity
00:52:41.640 for the Democrats.
00:52:42.840 I want her to
00:52:43.840 be out in the
00:52:44.680 forefront telling
00:52:45.940 all young men,
00:52:47.140 because they
00:52:48.040 have, as
00:52:48.820 Democrats would 0.89
00:52:49.380 say, their
00:52:49.740 lived experience,
00:52:51.080 they have been
00:52:51.780 through, men
00:52:52.620 particularly now in
00:52:53.260 their 20s,
00:52:53.740 they've been
00:52:54.120 through the
00:52:55.560 COVID shutdowns
00:52:57.240 and the
00:52:57.900 complete eradication
00:52:59.300 of free speech,
00:53:01.020 scientific inquiry,
00:53:01.840 and everything else
00:53:02.440 that the left
00:53:03.100 manufactured during
00:53:04.820 that.
00:53:05.120 They've been
00:53:05.500 through the
00:53:06.560 toxic masculinity 0.68
00:53:07.500 talks, they've
00:53:08.420 been through
00:53:09.060 CNN doing
00:53:10.680 documentaries about
00:53:11.740 how college
00:53:13.000 campuses are,
00:53:14.480 quote, like,
00:53:14.960 hunting grounds
00:53:15.960 for the
00:53:17.420 constant sexual
00:53:18.780 assaults and sexual 0.99
00:53:19.640 abusers that are
00:53:20.620 other college
00:53:21.280 students, that's
00:53:22.060 what they're
00:53:22.280 saying, they've
00:53:24.160 been through all
00:53:24.720 of this, and
00:53:25.940 they know that
00:53:26.960 something is
00:53:27.900 really wrong with
00:53:28.860 the Democrat
00:53:29.240 Party, and if
00:53:30.400 the Democrat
00:53:30.740 Party's response
00:53:31.540 is going to be,
00:53:32.160 no, actually,
00:53:32.800 your toxic 0.98
00:53:33.840 masculinity is the 0.99
00:53:34.880 problem, great.
00:53:36.440 Stay with that.
00:53:37.460 Stay on that,
00:53:38.280 Democrats.
00:53:39.000 Have AOC tell
00:53:40.200 young men how
00:53:41.280 they should really
00:53:42.040 feel about things,
00:53:43.020 and if they don't
00:53:43.760 agree with her,
00:53:44.720 it's because they're 0.96
00:53:45.860 sexist and racist. 0.99
00:53:47.420 Love it, keep it 1.00
00:53:48.540 going, blast it
00:53:50.280 from the rooftops. 0.52
00:53:51.740 That's exactly
00:53:52.460 what she did, and
00:53:53.640 cut 19, Buck.
00:53:54.700 She's listening to
00:53:55.520 you.
00:53:55.820 She's running the 0.93
00:53:56.640 game plan.
00:53:57.460 Cut 19 AOC last
00:53:59.060 night on CNN.
00:54:00.000 They are able to
00:54:01.700 radicalize and
00:54:03.620 target and exploit a
00:54:05.800 generation of young
00:54:07.220 boys, in particular,
00:54:10.020 away from healthy
00:54:11.520 masculinity and into
00:54:13.420 an insecure
00:54:14.160 masculinity that
00:54:15.300 requires the
00:54:16.040 domination of
00:54:17.040 others who are 0.64
00:54:18.180 poorer, browner,
00:54:20.240 darker, or a 0.84
00:54:21.140 different gender
00:54:21.760 than them, and
00:54:23.300 that is why they
00:54:24.200 are resonating
00:54:24.900 online, because
00:54:25.760 they are appealing
00:54:26.720 to the most
00:54:27.720 basest and worst
00:54:30.200 parts of human
00:54:31.140 nature.
00:54:32.720 Toxic masculinity.
00:54:35.500 And I think about
00:54:36.540 this all the time,
00:54:37.240 because I've got
00:54:37.660 three boys, and
00:54:38.920 also because I
00:54:39.500 just wrote the
00:54:40.040 book, Buck, but
00:54:41.560 the Democrat
00:54:42.660 brand, it has
00:54:44.940 become a slur
00:54:46.680 for young men.
00:54:48.720 They will accuse
00:54:49.940 each other of
00:54:50.640 being Democrats.
00:54:52.000 Black men, white 1.00
00:54:53.460 men, Asian men,
00:54:54.840 Hispanic men,
00:54:55.540 teenage young
00:54:56.600 men.
00:54:57.820 I don't know how
00:54:59.080 they come back
00:54:59.720 from this.
00:55:00.600 I am very
00:55:01.580 certain that it
00:55:02.860 is not by having
00:55:03.960 a woman lecture
00:55:05.780 young men that 0.86
00:55:07.520 they are actually
00:55:08.740 toxic because that's
00:55:10.240 why they've left in
00:55:11.140 the first place.
00:55:13.280 We don't talk
00:55:14.280 ever.
00:55:14.700 Have you ever
00:55:15.020 heard anybody talk
00:55:15.620 about toxic
00:55:16.220 femininity? 1.00
00:55:17.540 Have you ever
00:55:18.380 heard a huge
00:55:19.640 national discussion
00:55:20.820 about how women 0.99
00:55:22.140 are toxic and 1.00
00:55:23.880 they are destroying
00:55:25.180 the country?
00:55:26.760 Maybe we need to
00:55:27.660 have that conversation
00:55:28.480 because liberal 1.00
00:55:29.360 women are toxic and 1.00
00:55:30.720 they are destroying 1.00
00:55:31.600 the country, but
00:55:33.840 young men have
00:55:34.680 been told their
00:55:35.500 entire lives that
00:55:37.180 they are the
00:55:37.640 problem.
00:55:38.060 And this is me
00:55:39.480 getting on the
00:55:39.920 soapbox because I
00:55:40.640 think about this
00:55:41.140 so much, Buck.
00:55:41.760 I see the world
00:55:42.460 through the eyes
00:55:43.200 of my kids.
00:55:44.660 You and I are
00:55:45.520 roughly of the age
00:55:46.920 and a lot of
00:55:47.500 listeners are out
00:55:48.260 there where we
00:55:49.360 were raised in the
00:55:50.860 idea that men and
00:55:51.840 women should both 1.00
00:55:53.440 be able to aspire
00:55:54.600 to the apex of
00:55:56.460 success, whatever it
00:55:57.580 might be.
00:55:58.420 Become president.
00:56:00.860 Fly a plane.
00:56:02.480 Whatever you want
00:56:03.320 to do, be an
00:56:04.000 astronaut.
00:56:05.240 Everyone should be
00:56:05.960 able to aspire to
00:56:06.980 the apex of
00:56:08.020 to pursue the
00:56:09.340 meritocracy to the
00:56:10.280 fullest extent of
00:56:10.900 their ability.
00:56:12.240 And I think
00:56:12.600 everybody out there
00:56:13.240 nods along and
00:56:13.840 says, yeah, that's
00:56:14.240 good.
00:56:14.480 Men, women, be the 0.98
00:56:15.280 best that you can
00:56:16.960 be.
00:56:18.180 There's a difference
00:56:19.020 between be the best
00:56:20.160 that you can be,
00:56:21.060 which I would say is
00:56:21.840 the culture and era
00:56:22.800 in which you and I
00:56:23.880 were raised, and
00:56:25.240 women are better 1.00
00:56:26.740 than men.
00:56:28.480 And sometime
00:56:29.080 around, and I
00:56:30.380 don't know the
00:56:30.780 exact year, but
00:56:32.340 sometime around
00:56:33.460 2012, 10, 14,
00:56:37.000 in that era of
00:56:38.500 social media
00:56:39.260 rising, and
00:56:40.720 Barack Obama, we
00:56:42.640 moved from women 1.00
00:56:44.100 and men should both
00:56:44.960 be able to be as
00:56:46.100 successful as they
00:56:46.840 possibly can, to
00:56:48.020 men are bad,
00:56:49.540 certainly me too 0.63
00:56:50.300 accelerated it, and
00:56:51.780 women are better 1.00
00:56:52.460 than men.
00:56:53.900 And we, this is the
00:56:55.520 era now that young
00:56:56.660 men are being raised 0.79
00:56:57.840 in, and they're
00:56:58.560 looking around and
00:56:59.220 saying, why am I
00:57:00.000 being blamed for
00:57:00.820 everything in
00:57:01.620 America?
00:57:02.220 Actually, America's 0.71
00:57:02.960 awesome, first of all.
00:57:04.580 Secondly, to a large
00:57:05.560 degree, America is
00:57:06.440 awesome because of
00:57:07.380 brave men, and
00:57:08.820 women, but a lot of 1.00
00:57:10.020 brave men, and
00:57:11.440 masculinity isn't 0.61
00:57:12.320 toxic at all.
00:57:13.800 And so, that is, I
00:57:15.400 think, the
00:57:15.920 foundational issue
00:57:17.020 that emerged in
00:57:17.940 2024.
00:57:19.120 And Democrats don't
00:57:20.500 seem capable of
00:57:21.460 addressing it in any
00:57:22.560 way that is going to
00:57:24.240 be successful.
00:57:24.980 I think it's getting
00:57:25.460 worse for them.
00:57:26.740 I think you could
00:57:28.320 not have civilization
00:57:29.580 as we have come to
00:57:30.840 know it without men 0.97
00:57:33.000 embracing their
00:57:33.900 masculinity.
00:57:35.180 Yes.
00:57:35.560 I think that if it
00:57:37.000 were not for men
00:57:37.980 who were willing to
00:57:39.520 put their lives on
00:57:40.800 the line and lose
00:57:41.840 their lives to fight
00:57:45.120 for something bigger
00:57:45.860 than themselves, if
00:57:47.300 it were not for men 0.84
00:57:48.320 who would spend the
00:57:50.140 longest of hours and
00:57:51.420 make tremendous
00:57:52.300 personal sacrifice
00:57:53.920 and, in a sense,
00:57:56.140 give their lives in a
00:57:57.620 different way to the
00:57:59.520 pursuit of incredible
00:58:02.180 inventions or
00:58:03.460 exploration or
00:58:04.620 technological advancement
00:58:06.080 or building
00:58:07.680 something, whether
00:58:09.800 it's a skyscraper, a
00:58:12.620 manufacturing plant,
00:58:13.980 or a cathedral,
00:58:15.600 right?
00:58:16.040 If it weren't for men 0.99
00:58:17.600 willing to take
00:58:18.380 masculinity in its
00:58:19.620 different forms to the
00:58:20.680 extreme or to its
00:58:23.360 maybe its most
00:58:25.460 appropriate, you could
00:58:27.540 argue, level, its
00:58:28.900 highest level, then we
00:58:30.540 would not have a
00:58:31.100 civilization that we
00:58:31.900 enjoy right now.
00:58:33.200 And that, I think, is
00:58:35.120 forgotten or rather
00:58:36.320 entirely suppressed by
00:58:38.480 the angry and bitter
00:58:39.840 feminist left, which
00:58:41.460 has sadly, tragically,
00:58:43.600 led an entire
00:58:44.740 generation, really now a
00:58:46.240 couple of generations
00:58:47.020 of American women who
00:58:48.080 buy into that stuff,
00:58:49.600 down a pathway that is
00:58:52.160 not fulfilling, that is
00:58:53.920 filled with bitterness
00:58:55.180 and self-pity, and is
00:58:57.820 ultimately a bad life
00:58:59.480 of course.
00:59:00.640 And this is just the
00:59:01.660 reality that you see.
00:59:02.760 I mean, I've said this
00:59:03.600 before, I've had this
00:59:04.360 talk with many people,
00:59:05.380 including in my own
00:59:06.080 family, that I think the
00:59:08.020 sex-in-the-city-ification
00:59:10.040 of American women has 0.98
00:59:12.840 been horrendously
00:59:14.360 undermining for their
00:59:15.820 long-term happiness.
00:59:16.900 And I know they can say,
00:59:17.680 oh, I'm mansplaining, I'm a
00:59:18.680 man, what do I know?
00:59:19.640 You know, I'm in my
00:59:20.500 40s, I've seen a lot, and
00:59:21.540 I pay attention.
00:59:22.680 And I actually want what's
00:59:23.720 best for men and for
00:59:24.600 women in this country.
00:59:25.400 And there's been a huge
00:59:28.040 departure from
00:59:30.260 civilizational norms that
00:59:32.140 are the basis for
00:59:33.420 building our
00:59:34.040 civilization, which is,
00:59:35.200 of course, family
00:59:35.720 cohesion, it is male and
00:59:37.680 female parental roles 0.95
00:59:40.220 and spousal roles and
00:59:42.420 roles within a
00:59:43.280 civilization itself, within
00:59:44.640 society, and we pay the
00:59:46.840 price for that.
00:59:47.900 And you can just see
00:59:48.820 this all around.
00:59:49.400 Clay, it's a very sad
00:59:50.980 thing, we've talked about
00:59:51.660 this another day.
00:59:52.260 I know so many women 1.00
00:59:53.100 now, because they're my
00:59:53.820 age that I grew up with
00:59:54.820 in New York, who did
00:59:57.600 this sort of eat, pray,
00:59:58.760 love, through your 20s
01:00:00.440 and 30s thing, and maybe
01:00:02.500 they had some job in, I
01:00:04.060 don't know, you know,
01:00:04.660 marketing or PR or
01:00:06.140 advertising or something
01:00:07.220 that they liked, but
01:00:08.200 weren't really that
01:00:08.760 invested in, not like a
01:00:09.760 life's calling, they're
01:00:10.760 not heart surgeons.
01:00:12.340 Yeah.
01:00:12.440 And now they're unmarried,
01:00:13.360 they look around, they
01:00:14.080 don't have families, it's 0.99
01:00:14.980 hard to start a family at
01:00:15.920 that age, biological
01:00:16.780 reality kicks in, being
01:00:18.040 44-year-old woman, it's 1.00
01:00:19.080 not easy to have kids.
01:00:21.380 And they look around and
01:00:23.260 they want someone to
01:00:24.320 explain this to them.
01:00:26.140 And unfortunately, the
01:00:27.760 Democrats say it's men's
01:00:29.140 fault.
01:00:30.100 Yes.
01:00:30.320 And that's not true.
01:00:31.620 So this is where we are.
01:00:33.820 I don't know if people can
01:00:35.280 see it in some other lens or
01:00:36.600 some other manner, but men,
01:00:38.540 I think, see this and say to
01:00:39.800 themselves, I didn't cause
01:00:41.440 this.
01:00:42.360 And actually, it was the
01:00:43.920 people saying that men are
01:00:45.500 toxic, that convince women 1.00
01:00:47.100 to go down this pathway,
01:00:48.660 where effectively they're
01:00:49.800 trying to compete with and
01:00:50.860 act as men in ways that are 0.93
01:00:52.960 not going to be
01:00:53.680 fulfilling.
01:00:54.940 So there you go.
01:00:56.640 I think that's well said.
01:00:57.520 And I've spent a ton of
01:00:58.280 time.
01:00:58.560 I love this topic.
01:00:59.920 This is a big part of the
01:01:00.780 book.
01:01:01.520 There's a difference between
01:01:02.840 equality and sameness.
01:01:05.560 You can treat everyone
01:01:07.240 equal, but it doesn't mean
01:01:09.700 that they're the same.
01:01:11.180 And we spend so much time on
01:01:13.700 this idea to kind of build on
01:01:15.840 what you said and kind of
01:01:17.040 maybe distill it a little bit.
01:01:19.400 We have told men they should 0.98
01:01:21.160 be more like women and we
01:01:23.080 have told women they should 1.00
01:01:24.280 be more like men. 0.64
01:01:25.600 And the result is men don't 0.99
01:01:27.520 like, by and large, women who 0.95
01:01:29.640 act like men and women do not 1.00
01:01:32.300 like men who act like women. 0.88
01:01:35.060 And so when you're trying to
01:01:36.400 androgynize the sexes, you're 1.00
01:01:38.380 actually driving everybody
01:01:40.320 unhappily away from each other.
01:01:43.320 And to Buck's point, this is
01:01:44.140 what you end up with.
01:01:44.900 A lot of people who are sitting
01:01:45.900 around saying, wait a minute, I
01:01:46.920 made all these good choices and
01:01:49.180 I wanted to have kids and I
01:01:50.340 can't find a man.
01:01:51.160 It's the man's fault.
01:01:52.260 That's where we are.
01:01:53.480 And they vote Democrat.
01:01:55.100 And if I had to take a wild
01:01:56.100 guess on the number of
01:01:57.080 pictures and videos Carrie and
01:01:58.160 I have made in our son's first
01:01:59.520 six months of life, I mean,
01:02:00.980 it's probably in the
01:02:01.660 thousands.
01:02:02.320 He's so cute.
01:02:03.140 We can't help it.
01:02:04.220 But having an iPhone handy to
01:02:06.120 capture every moment makes it
01:02:07.460 so easy.
01:02:08.060 But remember back in the day
01:02:09.260 when you had to have like a
01:02:10.840 Polaroid or VHS camcorder and
01:02:13.340 all these technologies that are
01:02:14.440 gone now.
01:02:15.280 What happens to all that stuff?
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