Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 21 2025

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00:00:04.360 Welcome in, everybody.

00:00:05.500 Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show.

00:00:09.240 Kicks off right now.

00:00:11.340 Day 21 of the shutdown.

00:00:14.300 It's a real shutdown situation they are having here.

00:00:17.580 We will get into some of the back and forth.

00:00:20.080 Pretty straightforward.

00:00:21.520 Democrats view the obstructions, what they used to call it,

00:00:26.200 when you didn't do whatever President Obama wanted.

00:00:28.340 You all remember that?

00:00:31.000 Obstruction is their only game plan right now,

00:00:33.640 and if that means that they don't have anything beyond it, so be it.

00:00:37.860 We can have a conversation about that.

00:00:40.160 President Trump is doing a $250 million White House ballroom renovation,

00:00:47.720 which most exciting of all is that it's just a matter of time

00:00:50.960 before Mr. Clay Travis puts on his dancing shoes

00:00:54.360 and shows you all the crazy funky moves that he's got

00:00:58.140 at some White House function.

00:01:00.000 He's going to step on that dance floor,

00:01:02.480 make John Travolta in his prime look out of the beat.

00:01:05.460 I would just say for radio show hosts,

00:01:09.640 particularly white guys who are radio show hosts,

00:01:11.940 I would put myself in the top 5% best dancers.

00:01:15.780 I don't know who else is actually really talented,

00:01:18.720 and by the way, I'm not you.

00:01:20.280 I wasn't practicing TikTok dance moves by myself in my apartment during COVID,

00:01:25.160 so it may be the case that you're in the 1% or the 0.1%,

00:01:29.080 but I don't think that radio show hosts are renowned for their elite dance ability,

00:01:37.040 so I feel confident, much like when you came into the sports broadcasting,

00:01:41.540 the press boxes, and I said,

00:01:44.340 hey, it doesn't take a lot to be a decent-looking sports writer.

00:01:48.480 I don't think it takes a lot to be a decent dancer in the radio world either.

00:01:52.920 Well, there might be a, forget a stake bet,

00:01:55.860 there might have to be a dance on video put it on social and TikTok bet at some point

00:02:01.640 now that we've got the White House ballroom going,

00:02:03.820 but that's just part of Trump's renovation of the White House that has been underway.

00:02:08.560 We've got that discussion.

00:02:10.040 Hamas has broken the ceasefire.

00:02:11.880 That is not a surprise to me, I would assume to any of you.

00:02:16.180 Hamas is going to continue on doing what it does. 0.69

00:02:19.520 It has not changed anything about what it is,

00:02:21.960 and there is going to have to be a further reckoning.

00:02:25.740 They cannot allow Hamas leadership to stay in place.

00:02:28.680 There can be no peace with Hamas. 0.98

00:02:30.180 That is what we are seeing.

00:02:31.520 That is not something that, like I said,

00:02:35.400 comes out of the blue for anybody who's paying attention to the region,

00:02:38.740 but we can have some updates for you on that as we go.

00:02:42.340 Also, Judge Jeanine is taking it to the mat 0.90

00:02:47.720 in defense of Mr. Big Balls.

00:02:51.500 What's his actual name?

00:02:54.140 I know him only as Big Balls.

00:02:56.520 So there are worse things to be known as, I guess, in the grand scheme of things.

00:03:01.660 But yes, let me see if I can find his actual name.

00:03:04.780 It's very funny.

00:03:05.700 What his actual name is.

00:03:07.120 He was beaten up in the attacks.

00:03:11.180 And he's a great American.

00:03:12.540 He stepped in to help somebody who's being carjacked.

00:03:15.180 Carjacked by teenagers, mind you.

00:03:18.060 A mob of them.

00:03:19.140 Edward Corstein.

00:03:21.500 Corstein.

00:03:21.960 There we go.

00:03:22.720 A.K.A. Big Balls. 0.58

00:03:23.900 Yes.

00:03:24.180 Judge Jeanine is having none of it.

00:03:25.500 We shall discuss that.

00:03:27.760 Corrine Jean-Pierre is out there making the case for her book to people.

00:03:33.860 I think all these Biden books, you notice, Clay, you're not even hearing anyone talk

00:03:39.440 about Kamala's book anymore.

00:03:41.560 Kamala tried.

00:03:41.880 But you're the one who read it 107 days.

00:03:45.520 Yeah.

00:03:46.100 That's called being a team player, Clay.

00:03:48.000 Some of us are out there.

00:03:49.200 Some of us are out there in the Grove or whatever at Ole Miss partying and enjoying football.

00:03:55.640 It's true.

00:03:56.240 Surrounded by great Americans and beautiful ladies.

00:03:58.440 Some of us want to gouge our eyeballs out with a spoon because we are stuck reading 107 days.

00:04:05.720 So I'm just saying, you know, there are those of us who are on the all expenses cruise and

00:04:10.940 those of us who are taking grenades in the trenches on this one.

00:04:13.600 Nonetheless, nobody, nobody is talking about Kamala's book.

00:04:18.500 And Corrine Jean-Pierre's book comes down to, I am so incapable of assessing what is going on around me

00:04:27.180 that I really had no idea that Joe Biden had dementia.

00:04:30.760 I really just didn't know.

00:04:33.160 I almost think that's worse.

00:04:35.460 I think it would be better to say, you know what?

00:04:38.000 I believe that Trump is so bad for America that I was willing to be a part of a big lie.

00:04:42.020 At least there'd be some integrity in admitting that. 1.00

00:04:44.360 But pretending you are so out of it and really kind of dumb that you have no idea that. 0.98

00:04:50.060 Anyway, well, I don't we can get more into that discussion. 0.95

00:04:52.840 I'm going to start with this.

00:04:54.380 People are getting very testy over.

00:04:57.660 Some people are getting testy over the New York City mayor's race situation.

00:05:01.740 As the oncoming collectivist freight train of Momdani-ism is getting closer and closer to my beloved New York City. 0.95

00:05:13.620 And Curtis Sliwa is staying in all the calls, including from a lot of New York-based commentators.

00:05:22.780 Clay, a lot of people are saying, Curtis, look, it is you got to save New York from from Quo.

00:05:28.720 I mean, from a Momdani. 0.84

00:05:29.720 Cuomo is not great, but it will be better. 0.91

00:05:32.460 Cuomo is actually pretty awful.

00:05:33.720 This is really trading an F student for like a C- student, I think, is the fairest way to put it.

00:05:40.480 Here is what Sliwa has to say about, first of all, Bill Ackman, a billionaire activist centrist guy.

00:05:48.240 I wouldn't say he's right wing.

00:05:50.240 Here he is.

00:05:51.280 Well, Sliwa is saying that guy needs to go take a long walk off a short pier.

00:05:56.780 Play seven. 1.00

00:05:57.200 Well, number one, Ackman is a jerk. 1.00

00:06:01.160 Has he been right yet? 1.00

00:06:03.200 Here's a guy who goes up to Newport, Rhode Island and thinks he's a professional tennis player.

00:06:08.300 Come on, Ackman.

00:06:09.420 Stay in your lane.

00:06:10.640 Does he know anything about politics?

00:06:12.440 No.

00:06:13.020 Does he live in New York City?

00:06:14.360 No.

00:06:15.020 He lives in Chaprica, the whitest suburb of America, where even the lawn jockeys are white. 0.99

00:06:19.800 He may know Wall Street.

00:06:21.060 He may know hedge funds.

00:06:22.520 He has been wrong every step of the way with the billionaires.

00:06:25.220 So let's say people come to the conclusion, if somehow I lose, and we know Andrew Cuomo's lost, he's already tossed in the town.

00:06:33.960 Oh, it's because of you, Curtis.

00:06:36.140 Because of, really?

00:06:38.000 It's because of the Democrats.

00:06:40.360 What are you saying?

00:06:41.200 Who created Zohan Mandami?

00:06:43.220 Who embraced him?

00:06:44.320 Who nourished him?

00:06:45.220 Who supported him?

00:06:46.120 Clay, he is not buying into the argument you have been making, among many others, for the necessity of his dropout.

00:06:55.120 He's saying, look, it's all the Democrats' fault.

00:06:56.760 I'm staying in it to win it.

00:06:58.420 He's not wrong about it being all the Democrats' fault.

00:07:02.720 What he is wrong about is, if he stays in it, all he's doing is guaranteeing Mamdani is going to be elected the next mayor of New York City here in 13 days.

00:07:11.980 And I have made the argument, and I really do believe this, that Mamdani winning is simultaneously the worst thing that could happen to New York City and the best thing that could happen to the rest of the country. 0.87

00:07:24.820 Because it makes Mamdani and AOC the face of the Democrat Party, socialist-communist in New York City.

00:07:32.840 And New York City, as nice of a place as it is, does not play well in all of the battleground states, the places where control of the Senate is going to be determined, and the places where control of the House is going to be determined.

00:07:47.700 So, with that in mind, there is an argument that Curtis Lee was actually doing what is best for the Republican Party by refusing to drop out.

00:07:57.580 I don't think there's any argument at all that he's doing what is best for New York City because his continued involvement in this race, his continued staying in this race, ensures that Mamdani is going to be elected the next mayor of New York City.

00:08:14.440 And then it becomes a case, Buck, of you just have to hope that Mamdani is so incompetent that he isn't able to implement the things that he has promised he is going to be implemented.

00:08:26.740 Well, this is my silver lining explanation.

00:08:29.240 That's the only silver lining.

00:08:30.620 Is that he's so...

00:08:31.760 Unfortunately, I think Eric Adams had a similar but different problem in that he had some good ideas on public safety, but lacked the bureaucratic skills to implement them.

00:08:44.440 So, Mamdani, it's a different problem.

00:08:47.240 What he wants to do is bad, but he may be incapable of doing it.

00:08:51.660 Here we have Curtis Lee, we're continuing on.

00:08:54.180 This is a hat tip Nate Friedman podcast.

00:08:56.500 I've never heard of Nate, but this is from his podcast.

00:08:59.220 But here's Curtis Lee, we're making his case, Clay, that this idea that all the Cuomo people, rather that his people will just vote Cuomo, is also detached from what he sees as reality.

00:09:09.740 Play it.

00:09:10.000 And how dare you, people who know nothing about politics, suggest that everybody who's going to vote for me is suddenly going to be reborn.

00:09:20.660 We love Andrew Cuomo. 0.82

00:09:23.080 He killed all these elderly. 1.00

00:09:25.540 He's a sexual harasser. 0.97

00:09:27.160 He told conservatives and Republicans in 2014, if you're a conservative and you believe in right to life and the Second Amendment, you have no place in New York. 0.98

00:09:37.140 You need to leave.

00:09:39.040 This is the result of the Democrats' self-destruction.

00:09:42.940 So, I'm supposed to help them?

00:09:46.240 How come they don't help themselves?

00:09:49.600 Clay, what do you make of that?

00:09:51.360 Again, I don't disagree with anything that he's arguing.

00:09:55.400 The question is, is Cuomo likely to be better for New York City as awful as he has been in the past than Mamdani? 1.00

00:10:02.740 I think the answer is yes.

00:10:05.140 Do I think that Republicans should have to save Democrats from the consequences of their own choices?

00:10:11.360 No, I don't.

00:10:12.780 And again, this is where I come back, and I understand we've got a lot of W.R. listeners.

00:10:17.300 This is where I come back to it can simultaneously be the best and worst thing for the Republican Party for Mamdani to win.

00:10:25.340 I think it's the worst thing for anyone who is sane in New York City.

00:10:29.540 I think it's arguably the best thing that could happen for anyone who is sane in the country.

00:10:34.240 And this is why I've said sometimes you just got to let the island go under the water.

00:10:38.060 Best case scenario, to your point, Buck, he's so incompetent that he can't actually change anything or implement any of his ideas.

00:10:45.120 Worst case scenario, he does, and New York City, really, as one of the crown jewels of America, starts to reflect some of the same issues that we have seen happen in many of the top capitals across the West,

00:11:01.040 which is all of the choices they're making are finally starting to catch up with them, whether it's London, whether it's Paris, you name the big Western civilization capitals.

00:11:11.900 I think they're making increasingly left-wing choices that are bad for the overall populations there.

00:11:17.020 Part of the problem is that leftists have a much higher tolerance for inflicting pain on the masses than a lot of the sane people, us, realize, right?

00:11:26.000 San Francisco should have known 20 years ago, hey, what are you doing?

00:11:30.980 You're ruining a great American city.

00:11:32.640 Now it seems they finally have a more sane mayor, finally, but it took way too long.

00:11:39.500 I worry that something like that will happen in New York.

00:11:41.480 But here, just for one last bit of the argument, Clay, here's Curtis Sliwa telling Andrew Cuomo that it's on him to go out and convert Sliwa voters.

00:11:51.760 Play nine.

00:11:52.300 Andrew Cuomo failed everybody in that primary.

00:11:55.300 He even admitted it.

00:11:56.720 Now he's basically saying, I can't win without Sliwa votes.

00:12:00.100 Where are your votes?

00:12:02.160 Why don't you spend your money and think, he's got millions from the billionaires.

00:12:05.880 Millions.

00:12:07.060 Go out, get your own votes.

00:12:08.580 Convert Sliwa voters.

00:12:10.420 But for me to drop out, I represent a major party line.

00:12:13.680 I have people running under me, council people, judges.

00:12:16.700 They put their heart and soul into it.

00:12:18.540 They support me.

00:12:19.340 I have more donations than Andrew Cuomo does matching funds.

00:12:23.420 So, you know something, this is called voting.

00:12:27.540 Since when do we not let people vote?

00:12:31.180 Billionaires determine the next mayor?

00:12:33.800 If they don't like it, they can leave.

00:12:36.120 They have options.

00:12:37.560 Blue collar working class people don't. 0.94

00:12:39.680 Those are the people I'm representing, not Andrew Cuomo.

00:12:43.020 Clay, his best argument, I think, is actually what he said about the down ticket on the Republican side.

00:12:47.900 Or rather, the one that we hadn't really discussed here.

00:12:51.600 And I do think there's merit to that.

00:12:53.820 But he's also going to make sure that Momdani wins this election.

00:12:56.540 That's the problem.

00:12:57.640 A part of me makes me think, he spends so much time attacking Cuomo.

00:13:02.660 Has Momdani promised him some sort of job?

00:13:05.380 It sounds crazy.

00:13:06.280 But is there something that Curtis Sliwa wants in terms, and I don't even think it would be bad politics from Momdani.

00:13:17.760 Otherwise, why would you stay in?

00:13:19.880 It then becomes almost entirely a vanity project.

00:13:23.860 Maybe he hates personally Andrew Cuomo.

00:13:26.060 Maybe they've had a relationship in the past that is particularly toxic.

00:13:30.240 A lot of people do.

00:13:31.380 A lot of people really personally dislike Andrew Cuomo.

00:13:34.540 So he may not personally dislike Momdani, and this may be personal on Curtis Sliwa's behalf.

00:13:40.320 But again, in 13 days, the data is going to be out there.

00:13:44.220 And I think you can look at it, and we'll see whether Momdani wins a majority of this trio.

00:13:50.640 Or do the numbers reflect that if there had been a 1v1, Momdani would have lost?

00:13:56.840 Because right now, as we're speaking to all of you, Momdani keeps setting new highs, Buck, in the likelihood of being able to be the nominee and to win this race.

00:14:09.060 And so long as that continues, I think that we're in a really, really tough spot for the city of New York.

00:14:16.440 Now, positive is there does seem to be some good momentum for Cittarelli on the jersey race.

00:14:25.400 And certainly Jason Miara's and Winsome Sears, I think, have made up some ground in the state of Virginia as that race is going. 0.99

00:14:34.680 But right now, you have a 93% chance in all of the sort of prediction markets that Momdani's going to win.

00:14:45.020 And if you think Sliwa's going to win, because we get these calls every time, you can 100 times your money in 13 days.

00:14:51.820 So this would be one of the most epic upsets in the history of upsets.

00:14:56.200 All of you should go vote.

00:14:57.320 Don't listen to us.

00:14:58.680 Make your voice heard.

00:14:59.980 But I think the voices of New York are unfortunately going to be heard, and they're going to be putting a communist into office.

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00:17:02.080 Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.

00:17:04.660 We have got 13 days until the New York City mayor's race, until the governor's race in New Jersey,

00:17:11.260 until the governor's race in Virginia.

00:17:14.360 And I woke up this morning as one of the few people who still buys print newspapers.

00:17:18.760 And I'm in New York City still flying back home tonight.

00:17:22.500 And the front page of the New York Post, Buck, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch,

00:17:28.560 says, just walk away, Bray.

00:17:32.220 Even allies tell Sliwa to drop mayor bid.

00:17:36.000 Don't let Zoran win.

00:17:38.060 And, you know, you grew up in New York City.

00:17:41.900 The tabloids don't have the same impact, necessarily, that they used to do back in the day.

00:17:47.020 But as the conservative-leaning tabloid, when the Post puts the Republican mayor nominee on the front page of the paper

00:17:55.140 and says, basically making fun of him, get out of this race, you have no chance of winning,

00:18:00.340 the pressure on Sliwa to drop out continues to rise.

00:18:06.420 You grew up in New York City, Buck.

00:18:08.100 Do you think there's any way Curtis Sliwa drops out?

00:18:10.620 Or do you think, at this point, 13 days out, it doesn't matter?

00:18:14.160 Because early voting starts, I think, in a few days.

00:18:17.040 If he's not going to drop out in the next couple of days, it's over.

00:18:20.260 I don't see him dropping out at all.

00:18:22.320 And I see Zoran Mamdani as the next mayor of New York.

00:18:25.140 But I'm just basing this on the polls and all of the...

00:18:29.640 Now, can we also just...

00:18:30.840 People say, well, what about the polls with Trump?

00:18:33.700 Polls can be wrong within three or four points.

00:18:37.260 And in a presidential election, that makes all the difference.

00:18:40.620 It's very rare for every single pollster to be wrong by 30 points.

00:18:44.640 Yes.

00:18:45.080 There's a difference, okay?

00:18:46.700 Just to get this...

00:18:48.120 Because I'm seeing...

00:18:49.120 You guys are anointing Mamdani.

00:18:50.420 I'm not anointing anything.

00:18:52.100 I'm the one who thinks it's insane that Mamdani could become the mayor of New York.

00:18:55.260 I'm the one who wants to stop...

00:18:56.420 Do whatever we can through this election process to make him not the mayor.

00:19:01.460 But unfortunately, the numbers are the numbers.

00:19:04.080 You're talking about an 8-to-1 Democrat to Republican city.

00:19:07.800 And no variation of the numbers coming even close to a Cuomo win,

00:19:14.820 even if...

00:19:16.420 Rather, with Curtis Lewis staying in.

00:19:18.460 There's no variation that I've seen that does that.

00:19:20.060 But the thing that makes me pretty sanguine about it all, Clay,

00:19:23.420 not as sanguine as you, sir, but sanguine about it all,

00:19:25.780 is I don't think Cuomo would be good.

00:19:29.120 Yeah.

00:19:30.000 Maybe not insane is not the same thing as good.

00:19:33.740 I think he'd be a very bad mayor in some respects.

00:19:37.760 People keep talking about the COVID thing.

00:19:40.060 He was the no bail, no jail guy.

00:19:42.080 It was Andrew Cuomo who was like, you know what? 0.55

00:19:44.560 Let's let that maniac out who just punched the old lady on the subway. 1.00

00:19:47.740 Let's let him out even though it's the 50th time he's been arrested. 0.87

00:19:50.820 Nope.

00:19:51.120 No bail.

00:19:52.240 That's the Cuomo routine.

00:19:53.780 This is where blue cities leave themselves with no real option.

00:19:57.820 Andrew Cuomo, who was one of the worst governors during COVID,

00:20:01.000 is now the savior, supposedly, of New York City,

00:20:03.900 which is why shining light in a dark room, potentially, 13 days from now,

00:20:09.520 I think it's going to help Elise Stefanik in the governor's race,

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00:21:58.380 Fort Wayne, baby, Fort Wayne, here we come.

00:22:00.600 Yes, so we are looking forward to seeing many of you

00:22:03.860 at WoWo's 100-year celebration.

00:22:07.920 That's a pretty impressive thing.

00:22:09.400 So we're going to be in Fort Wayne, Indiana tomorrow.

00:22:11.520 We're going to be meeting a lot of you in that area.

00:22:14.180 We look forward to that event.

00:22:17.840 And if you are listening to us in that region,

00:22:21.620 well, maybe you will see us as we are rolling through.

00:22:25.060 All right, Buck, you mentioned it.

00:22:26.480 You leave me and you have no idea what might come on.

00:22:30.000 I thought I was making the least controversial argument

00:22:33.580 that's ever taken place.

00:22:34.760 Let me reiterate what happened.

00:22:37.800 This Chicago-area teacher, I'm sure you saw the video, Buck,

00:22:41.920 as the No Kings protests were going on,

00:22:46.140 a Trump-affiliated car is driving by to Turning Point USA,

00:22:51.340 driving by, and this elementary school teacher celebrates

00:22:56.140 by putting her hand to her throat as if she is mimicking

00:23:02.200 the Charlie Kirk assassination. 1.00

00:23:04.120 Disgusting. 0.97

00:23:05.100 I mean, really. 1.00

00:23:06.900 Psychotic, disgusting stuff.

00:23:08.800 And I said as a part of the argument that, look,

00:23:13.500 I'm a free speech guy, but there is a morality component

00:23:17.720 to being an elementary school teacher.

00:23:20.800 And you can be fired for violating that morality component.

00:23:25.140 And as an example, I said, for instance,

00:23:30.080 I think most people would not want their kid's elementary school teacher

00:23:34.680 to be a stripper. 1.00

00:23:35.760 And I can't believe it, but we have been deluged by people

00:23:41.760 that actually disagreed with me.

00:23:44.760 So here we have a wide variety.

00:23:49.000 Some of them are very funny, but I thought we could play some of these

00:23:52.640 talkbacks.

00:23:54.800 And, Brandon, I also said, by the way, that there's a middle ground, right,

00:23:59.500 where if you worked as a waiter or waitress at Applebee's,

00:24:04.300 I think that you could clearly probably have both jobs, right?

00:24:08.140 A lot of teachers have multiple jobs.

00:24:09.640 Maybe you work in the summer when you're out of school.

00:24:11.660 And I said, but Hooters might be more of a middle ground, right,

00:24:14.800 like where people could agree or disagree.

00:24:17.200 Brandon in Michigan says he'd go to a lot more school activities

00:24:21.080 if his kid's teacher also worked at Hooters.

00:24:23.900 This is B.B. Brandon weighing in.

00:24:27.600 Travis, I'm just going to say if my kid's teacher worked at Hooters,

00:24:32.460 I'd probably be a lot more interested in going to conferences

00:24:36.600 and going to school activities.

00:24:39.040 All right.

00:24:39.880 Thank you, Brandon.

00:24:40.800 And then Ken in California, he's fired up at me.

00:24:45.120 My opinion that you can't be a stripper and an elementary school teacher. 0.94

00:24:49.640 He's mad.

00:24:50.440 He says, hey, Clay, you're wrong.

00:24:52.360 CC.

00:24:52.640 You know, you can't be for the First Amendment and boobs 1.00

00:24:55.900 and give this teacher criticism over her First Amendment right for expression. 1.00

00:25:01.480 Yes, it's abhorrent.

00:25:02.540 Yes, it's tacky.

00:25:03.500 Yes, it's despicable.

00:25:05.620 Hate speech has still got to be protected speech, whether we like it or not.

00:25:10.280 And I don't like it, but she did it, and it's not against the law.

00:25:15.200 Clay, I'm gone for one hour.

00:25:17.260 I know. 0.68

00:25:17.560 You have the keys to the car solo, and our entire inbox today is about boobs. 0.98

00:25:21.800 But, I mean, I am of the opinion.

00:25:27.300 I said this on the show.

00:25:28.480 I think, Buck, you would sign off.

00:25:29.740 Like, if we employed someone on the Clay and Buck show that celebrated Charlie Kirk's assassination,

00:25:36.440 I believe in the First Amendment.

00:25:38.580 The First Amendment doesn't mean that there aren't consequences for your behavior.

00:25:42.900 And if you are a public school teacher, elementary school, I don't think you should be teaching kids if you are going around publicly celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

00:25:54.940 That's my opinion.

00:25:55.700 I wouldn't want my third grader, I wouldn't want to walk in there and know that she had been at a No Kings protest doing celebratory gestures having to do with Charlie Kirk's murder.

00:26:07.240 Because I would think that would influence her teaching.

00:26:10.740 To all the people who are saying this about that teacher, for example, it's always situational with leftists.

00:26:17.760 They want what they want, how they want it, when they want it.

00:26:20.420 There's no principle.

00:26:21.320 There's no rule that we can all be held to.

00:26:24.620 And I just give you this, if Jimmy Kimmel, or if this teacher, had been shouting a racial slur, a racial slur that you're never allowed to say, would we be hearing about free speech arguments?

00:26:38.020 Would they be saying, oh, but, you know, it's free speech, you're allowed to say that?

00:26:43.520 No, you're not, right?

00:26:45.400 So where is the line here?

00:26:47.440 The line is, what is abhorrent to the people that you are either serving, in the case of a teacher, the community you're serving, or to a very unfunny late-night talk show host who's representing a broader corporate brand?

00:27:02.260 And this is true of anybody, I might add.

00:27:04.260 You don't get to make a free speech argument.

00:27:06.280 If you walked into Initech while you're working for Lumberg, and you told Lumberg what you really think of him when he's like, would you come in and work on Saturday?

00:27:16.600 Great movie. 0.95

00:27:17.560 And you started, great movie, and you started just dropping all kinds of curse words and telling him what you really think of him and his stupid suspenders and the whole thing, and he fired you, you don't have a First Amendment argument. 0.95

00:27:31.780 I just feel like people intentionally confuse this thing now, where you are entitled, if you are advancing leftist ideology in some capacity, 0.95

00:27:41.340 the First Amendment means you have an ironclad right to not be fired from your job or have there be any consequences for it.

00:27:47.700 Then people say, well, what about when the cancel culture stuff?

00:27:50.360 The cancel culture stuff was unreasonable and irrational firing of people for saying entirely valid and normal and things that half the country agrees with.

00:28:01.780 Yes, and look, again, I think that public school, elementary school teachers, which are being funded by all of our taxpayers,

00:28:12.880 I don't think it's too high of a standard of behavior to expect that you're not going to be in public celebrating a public assassination of a figure.

00:28:23.500 And so I think if you did that and Rachel Maddow had gotten shot and you were a super right winger, which I don't think people would even really celebrate it,

00:28:33.420 the consequence on the same side, you shouldn't be celebrating political assassinations and making a living teaching young kids.

00:28:41.920 I don't think that's a crazy opinion.

00:28:43.460 Anybody who's defending anybody who is, I mean, anyone who is defending this particular teacher who made this this abhorrent gesture,

00:28:51.260 if if if that teacher had walked, you know, if that teacher was walking the streets with a, you know, George Floyd got what he deserved.

00:28:58.100 He was a convicted felon drug addict, you know, written on our teacher.

00:29:01.940 Would anyone be making the case that, you know, that's OK, free speech?

00:29:06.560 No, they would not.

00:29:07.640 Yes, they would all be saying, oh, but the racism and the and the bad things.

00:29:11.880 And they can't be corrupting the mind of the youth and all this other stuff.

00:29:15.100 So this is why I found the Jimmy Kimmel argument, which ties into this, too, just absurd on its face.

00:29:22.960 It's like he said something that pissed off a lot of people.

00:29:25.740 He doesn't have a First Amendment right to keep that job that he has forever.

00:29:29.160 There are a million things.

00:29:30.180 Not only do we have FCC regulations here on radio, there are a million things that if either of us said, we get into a lot of trouble.

00:29:36.300 Yeah, really.

00:29:37.200 It's, you know, have you betrayed your audience?

00:29:38.640 Right.

00:29:39.120 Or have you betrayed a large enough portion of your audience with what you've said or outrage them with what you've said that you cease to be able to function as somebody who they can trust and who is still a viable show?

00:29:53.840 Well, I mean, this is the real what was happening on the other side and the cancel culture wars was people were were creating a fiction that there was outrage at somebody.

00:30:04.020 This happened to Rush outrage at somebody for something that was said.

00:30:07.880 And then there were actions taken based on the lie that this was actually so outrageous.

00:30:13.920 Yeah.

00:30:14.100 Look, I think if you went back in time and you were looking at the Jimmy Kimmel thing, the FCC weighing in, I think, actually made it a bigger story than it would have been if nobody had weighed in at all on the government level.

00:30:28.940 Because then they said, oh, well, this is government pressure and coercion.

00:30:33.700 Look, the reality is he missed four days and now he's back on the air and there is virtually no discussion about this.

00:30:40.280 But but that also tells you that there was no real fear of government coercion because they wouldn't have just put them on the air a few days later.

00:30:46.060 So that was a pretext.

00:30:47.300 The whole thing was, again, that's why I said, if you didn't say anything about Roseanne or Gina Carano when they were canceled at Disney, which almost no one did.

00:30:56.420 We talked about that quite a lot.

00:30:58.400 Then I don't understand how you decide that Jimmy Kimmel is the line in the sand that you will draw.

00:31:02.880 I mean, the ACLU getting involved in everybody else.

00:31:06.160 But, yes, your bigger picture point is an important one.

00:31:09.540 The government restricting your speech is what you should be concerned about.

00:31:14.140 That's actually what Alex Berenson's lawsuit, which I think is still pending, is about because that's what Joe Biden did.

00:31:23.280 Joe Biden went to Facebook and he went to Twitter and he went to YouTube and they threatened.

00:31:29.840 They said, if you don't take down these posts that we don't like relating to covid, there's going to be a punishment.

00:31:37.060 And now everybody suddenly is circling around and saying what you and I said for a long time,

00:31:43.580 which brings me to cut 28.

00:31:46.500 You remember, Buck, in New York City when Kyrie Irving refused to get the covid shot in Brooklyn and they wouldn't allow him to play in the games,

00:31:56.780 but they would allow him to sit in the crowd courtside.

00:32:00.580 Do you remember that absurdity of covid?

00:32:02.520 They wouldn't let him play in the game, but they would allow him to sit on the court and watch the games.

00:32:09.400 That was the line that they were drawing at that point in time.

00:32:13.060 I remember being in line for the Columbus Circle, New York City, Whole Foods peak pandemic time.

00:32:20.880 And they were enforcing with with Prussian efficiency, six feet of distancing between people standing in the line.

00:32:30.160 Yes.

00:32:30.700 And then you got into the place.

00:32:32.640 You got into the Whole Foods and it was absolutely mobbed with people like shoulder to shoulder and all the aisles and everything.

00:32:39.800 You know, unlimited time to shop, do whatever you want to do.

00:32:43.000 So outside where you actually cannot spread the virus in open air, in open air, six feet of distancing inside shoulder to shoulder with worthless masks on.

00:32:55.180 And, you know, there is this is all you need to know about somebody is a public figure, as a leader, as a commentator.

00:33:01.680 How were they during covid?

00:33:02.780 It was the stress test in all these respects, which just brings me full circle to Cuomo.

00:33:06.700 Cuomo. He was awful. 0.97

00:33:08.600 He was as bad as Gavin Newsom. 0.99

00:33:10.200 He was as bad as Gretchen Whitmer. 0.98

00:33:11.980 He was absolutely terrible.

00:33:13.480 In fact, I think you could argue he was the worst because he really set the tone of panic and authoritarianism alongside it that then all these other states followed because New York got hit first.

00:33:24.500 And here to close out, to tie in all of this, as the story has altered, Stephen A.

00:33:30.180 Smith, ESPN's most prominent employee, now says, hey, Kyrie Irving was right.

00:33:35.500 He should have never taken the covid shot.

00:33:38.740 And they came after Kyrie Irving.

00:33:41.000 They came after Aaron Rodgers.

00:33:42.540 They came after everybody who was in athletics that refused.

00:33:46.060 And I do give a little bit of credit to Stephen A.

00:33:48.480 Because he's now pointing out that that Kyrie was right.

00:33:51.780 Whereas most people out there are still saying nothing at all.

00:33:55.000 Cut 28.

00:33:55.900 Kyrie's a good brother.

00:33:57.020 We used to butt heads because he misworked too damn much.

00:34:00.340 And I'm like, yo, man, his brother's electrifying.

00:34:02.560 I want to see this brother dancing on the basketball court. 0.98

00:34:04.680 I don't want to hear no shit about no covid vaccine. 1.00

00:34:06.700 Get your ass on the court. 1.00

00:34:07.700 I didn't see you. 1.00

00:34:08.700 Now, obviously, in hindsight, the brother right.

00:34:11.020 Because we see all the conspiracy theories that come out and props to him for look for seeing it, for having the foresight to see that.

00:34:20.040 We didn't see that at the time.

00:34:21.300 But you also have to understand, I'm living in a world where you got cats making $38, $40, $45 million.

00:34:28.800 You got GMs and owners complaining about it. 1.00

00:34:31.260 And you got billionaires looking me in the face and saying, yo, Stephen A., I took that damn vaccine. 1.00

00:34:35.980 Who the hell are they not to take the vaccine? 0.99

00:34:37.940 And we're living in a country where the government was imposing all of that on us.

00:34:42.440 So I'm sitting there going like this.

00:34:43.920 We all taking the risks.

00:34:45.880 Kyrie said no.

00:34:47.320 Props to him.

00:34:48.120 But I didn't view it that way.

00:34:49.900 So he was right.

00:34:51.360 Most people won't even acknowledge that Kyrie Irving and Aaron Rodgers and other prominent athletes who said, I'm not going to get the covid shot were, in fact, correct.

00:35:01.240 But it's just one of very many things that, to your point, Andrew Cuomo, who is now supposed to be the savior of New York, was one billion percent wrong on.

00:35:12.160 He was terrible.

00:35:13.260 This is why I can't get that energized about the anything to defeat.

00:35:17.640 I think Sliwa probably feels this way, too.

00:35:19.480 I haven't heard him say this, but we're supposed to go and break out, you know, and break the glass, do anything we can so that Andrew Cuomo can be the mayor.

00:35:28.380 Yeah, he's horrible.

00:35:30.220 Yes, I get it. 0.96

00:35:31.840 I think I think he I think he hates Cuomo.

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00:37:36.840 We also have Trump just speaking a few moments ago because, you know, there is a and the team pointed this out to me, privately funded renovation, really a remodel, a demo and remodel of the east wing of the White House to accommodate a ballroom.

00:37:57.860 That is, some people are saying, going to be the most fabulous ballroom of all ballrooms.

00:38:03.700 It's going to be spectacular, I'm sure.

00:38:05.920 And this is President Trump speaking about the West Wing's history and more.

00:38:15.900 Play 30.

00:38:16.680 This is, as you see over here, the presidential walk of fame.

00:38:20.640 And we had this long wall with half windows because that used to be a swimming pool on the other side of the wall.

00:38:26.640 That was the swimming pool where Jackie would say, I hear women inside. 1.00

00:38:32.460 Are women inside? 0.97

00:38:33.560 Quite a famous, I'm not saying anything, this was a part of a movie.

00:38:37.780 And the Secret Service said, no, ma'am, there's no women inside, ma'am. 1.00

00:38:41.760 I'm sorry, ma'am, you're going to have to move along.

00:38:44.160 But I hear women inside. 1.00

00:38:46.180 No, ma'am, you'll have to move along, ma'am.

00:38:48.780 So that was the famous swimming pool.

00:38:50.940 Now it's even worse.

00:38:52.140 It's for the media.

00:38:53.920 They covered the pool up.

00:38:56.040 They covered the pool up and now it's for the media.

00:38:58.720 And I think we have a small representative group.

00:39:00.880 I don't think they allowed the rest of them.

00:39:02.880 I can't believe it.

00:39:04.000 What happened?

00:39:04.480 They're all on the other side of the wall.

00:39:05.920 Can you believe it?

00:39:08.160 That is one hell.

00:39:09.500 So the story, should I tell the story that Trump is telling?

00:39:14.540 I guess I have to tell the story that Trump is telling, Buck.

00:39:17.040 I think we do.

00:39:17.720 These angry emails are Buck Sexton's fault.

00:39:21.060 So word is from the White House historian crew that back in the day, JFK, as soon as Jackie Kennedy would leave the White House, would roll in girls and they would have naked swimming parties in the White House swimming pool.

00:39:42.700 So if you think Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky was scandalous, what Trump is referencing is that they would have skinny dipping sessions when JFK was president with girls that they would bring in.

00:39:59.660 So that pool is now covered up and that's where the press goes.

00:40:03.360 But that is a accurate, so far as I have heard, a historical rendition that Trump was referencing there.

00:40:10.860 Probably did not expect that that would be the opening of the third hour.

00:40:15.520 But that is what I will say is talking about JFK and Camelot and all that stuff is a pure the same way that that they went with Biden doesn't have dementia.

00:40:26.940 It was a pure fabrication of the Democrat-aligned media and not just then, but a continuation, perpetuation, because it created this Kennedy dynasty, so-called dynasty, that led to someone like Ted Kennedy, who let a woman drown in the back of his car.

00:40:46.420 Right.

00:40:46.580 Yes.

00:40:47.280 These are the kind of people that the Kennedys brought us in politics.

00:40:52.360 And isn't there a, wasn't there like the red-haired guy who was going to be the, you know, the great hope of the Kennedys and he gave some like sweaty face speech after the, you know what I'm talking about.

00:41:03.700 There was a young Kennedy, another, a member of Congress.

00:41:07.300 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:08.980 Patrick.

00:41:10.260 Yes, that sounds right.

00:41:12.020 Yeah, basically, they're a Democrat brand and they're protected as such.

00:41:17.600 But if you actually look at the conduct of JFK in the Oval Office, in the White House, and as a person, he was also a very sickly guy, needed a whole bunch of different controlled substances to get through the day.

00:41:32.500 This idea that he was this strapping, handsome, you know, all-American guy and all this is all, I'm just saying, it's all a fabrication. 0.71

00:41:39.700 Yes.

00:41:40.040 This is all stuff that was fed to people because there was no, you know, it's different.

00:41:44.900 You didn't have the constant media cycle, you didn't have so many people that have not just access but are able to use their own methods of capturing information.

00:41:55.720 Everyone walks around now, think about it this way, when Kennedy was actually president, Clay, the press had a fraction of the access and the ability to create content that every single one of our listeners right now does.

00:42:09.380 Yes.

00:42:10.560 Think about that.

00:42:11.380 No, the evolution, I mean, look, and it wasn't just Kennedy, right?

00:42:14.900 They pretended that FDR was not in a wheelchair.

00:42:18.840 I mean, that's maybe one of the most staggering, complicit-related media aspects.

00:42:26.900 They pretended that FDR wasn't actually needing to be pushed around in a wheelchair because the press was asked to do so.

00:42:39.520 Yeah.

00:42:39.820 And, well, they also got away with Woodrow Wilson's wife running the White House for the last year or so.

00:42:46.200 Edith was basically the president of the United States because he had such a bad stroke.

00:42:51.940 I also think that that, we didn't talk about it that much.

00:42:54.280 I think that same dynamic factored in with Dr., I love that we all call her Dr. and just, gosh, Dr. Jill Biden, I think she recognized that her frail husband meant that she was in a more powerful role than a first lady could or should be, generally.

00:43:14.360 So that was a part of it.

00:43:15.560 But let's get back to Trump here, what he just said about this or what he was just saying.

00:43:20.100 He spoke about the shutdown all along.

00:43:23.040 There has been the things that the shutdown has made possible as part of what the White House can do.

00:43:29.780 It's a great refutation of the no kings rally, I might add, right?

00:43:32.560 The government is shut down.

00:43:34.320 The king can't just open the government because he's not a king, as we all know. 1.00

00:43:37.960 It's such a stupid rally, a stupid name. 1.00

00:43:40.800 It's just not good. 1.00

00:43:41.900 But back to what Trump is saying about the shutdown, he talked about Russ Vaught.

00:43:46.760 And here is what he says about this individual and his cutting and the prioritization underway.

00:43:52.820 Play 32.

00:43:53.680 I will say this, that we have Darth Vader.

00:43:56.460 You know Darth Vader, right?

00:43:57.940 Darth Vader is a man who, I think he's sitting right.

00:44:02.140 Is that Darth?

00:44:02.820 Stand up, please, Darth Vader.

00:44:04.480 Stand up.

00:44:05.280 Does everybody know?

00:44:07.300 This is, they call him Darth Vader.

00:44:09.960 I call him a fine man.

00:44:12.120 But he's cutting Democrat priorities and they're never going to get him back.

00:44:18.320 And they've caused us and they've really allowed us to do it.

00:44:22.240 And by the way, thank you.

00:44:23.060 You're doing a great job, I have to tell you.

00:44:24.820 So, really a great job.

00:44:27.720 Because many of the things that they're cutting, like the New York project, $20 billion, we're cutting it.

00:44:33.400 They're not going to get it back.

00:44:34.760 I mean, they're not going to get a lot of things back.

00:44:36.600 They may not get it back.

00:44:37.600 Maybe we'll talk to them about it.

00:44:39.500 But they're losing all the things that they wanted.

00:44:42.620 But many of the things that they wanted are things that we don't want.

00:44:47.260 The things that are just so bad for our country.

00:44:49.800 And we're cutting those things out.

00:44:52.420 Clay, Russ Vaught is the head of OMB, Office of Management and Budget.

00:44:55.460 And they're able to get in there with a scalpel and cut some of these government programs because of the shutdown.

00:45:04.160 So, another component of this.

00:45:06.620 Not only that, it is just not registering in any way that the government shutdown is still going on.

00:45:11.860 I understand that some of you out there are going to have to get back pay.

00:45:18.520 If you're in military, Trump is saying that he wants to make sure that everybody gets paid.

00:45:22.920 Again, they're going to have a press availability for the Republican senators that are all at the White House right now.

00:45:29.680 And we're scheduled to talk with Marsha Blackburn at the bottom of the hour.

00:45:31.880 So, we'll hear what President Trump said.

00:45:35.700 But I just think that they are in such incredible difficulty here.

00:45:42.520 Because they didn't want to shut down.

00:45:44.740 They didn't want to bend the knee before the government protests.

00:45:48.680 Before the No Kings protests.

00:45:50.600 And now a part of me thinks, Buck, that they may think this is advantageous for them on some small level in Virginia and New Jersey.

00:45:59.120 And two close governor's races.

00:46:00.660 Maybe it motivates a little bit.

00:46:02.440 Turn out.

00:46:02.840 I don't know.

00:46:04.320 But I think the idea that there was going to be some mass rallying effect to the Democrat side has certainly not been reflected in the polls.

00:46:14.980 And it hasn't been reflected in the reactions by and large.

00:46:19.160 As most people have just kind of said, yeah, there's not a lot to this.

00:46:24.320 Well, here is, since we're talking about the shutdown a little bit.

00:46:27.960 The latest explanation of this that we get from Chuck Schumer, who is really, it is the Schumer shutdown.

00:46:36.800 I mean, this guy, more than any other, is responsible for where this is.

00:46:39.260 This is cut 12.

00:46:40.380 Hit it.

00:46:40.600 We enter another week of Donald Trump's government shutdown, and Republicans seem happy not to work, happy not to negotiate, happy to let health care premium spike for over 20 million working and middle class Americans.

00:46:55.380 Our country is staring down the barrel of a health care catastrophe, and Republicans will spend this week either vacationing or holding pep rallies at the White House.

00:47:05.060 It's been over a month since the House of Representatives even took a single roll call vote.

00:47:10.660 That's shameful.

00:47:11.800 That's derelict.

00:47:13.040 Government workers must work without getting paid.

00:47:16.040 House Republicans get paid without working.

00:47:18.420 And yet, it's the Schumer shutdown.

00:47:22.160 He can say whatever he wants about it, Clay.

00:47:23.800 I don't think that it's going to work.

00:47:24.820 I also think that the more they talk about health care, hold on a second.

00:47:29.140 Obamacare, we're supposed to make everything cheaper. 1.00

00:47:30.560 Why do we have to shovel billions and billions of dollars into Obamacare to make it even temporarily seem solvent?

00:47:38.620 All of us are paying way more than we were told we would ever have to pay for health care to a large extent because Obamacare has failed.

00:47:50.400 And this idea that your insurance was going to be cheaper or you were going to have more flexibility when it came to your doctors, it has been proven to be, I think, a complete and total lie.

00:48:00.980 And so everybody out there who is dealing, and I think it's all of us, when you have to go to the doctor and you get back your bill and you say how in the world could it possibly have cost this much or how can my insurance premiums have risen to the level that they have, Obamacare has actually made, as many people argued that would be the case, everything more expensive and worse than it would be if we had never fiddled with it at all.

00:48:26.380 And in fact, it kind of ties in with this, I can't believe I'm going to give him credit here, what Jon Stewart said about Bernie Sanders.

00:48:34.260 The Democrat solution is always subsidies, and when the government causes endless funds to be spent, Jon Stewart's actually making sense here.

00:48:42.460 Prices rise. This was cut 15.

00:48:44.520 The Democratic solutions have never been to directly provide, it's always been a subsidy to a middleman.

00:48:55.380 But what happens is, when the government promises endless funds to insurance companies or private universities without any cost controls, and Trump seems to understand this, prices rise far beyond the rate of inflation.

00:49:12.240 And we've seen it in tuition, and we've seen it in pharmaceutical, and we've seen it in healthcare.

00:49:18.640 So my question is, will Democrats recognize the poison pill that they've often placed into well-intentioned policy?

00:49:28.900 They don't understand basic economics, and I think to Jon Stewart's credit, he's elucidating that Democrats don't understand market-based policies and get all of their prescriptions wrong, which ends up costing us all more.

00:49:42.100 But let's play the Bernie response to that on the other side of this.

00:49:45.860 You're going to hear Bernie Sanders, it's going to be like, but the more we spend comes from the millionaires and the billionaires.

00:49:52.300 It's going to be something like that.

00:49:53.560 There's going to be some nonsensical...

00:49:55.100 Yes, I like your argument.

00:49:56.700 I think that is likely to be proven true. 0.95

00:49:58.380 Yeah, I don't know what it is, I'm just guessing, but economic illiterate Bernie Sanders is going to have some foolish thing to say, and you'll stick around with us and you'll hear it.

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