Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 28 2025

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00:00:04.700 Welcome in Tuesday edition.

00:00:08.480 Clay and Buck, one week exactly

00:00:11.280 until we are officially on the election day of 2025.

00:00:18.500 New Jersey, go vote.

00:00:20.420 Virginia, go vote. 0.95

00:00:21.960 New York City, go vote.

00:00:23.500 I know there are other elections taking place.

00:00:26.360 I voted for alderman today in my town of Franklin, Tennessee.

00:00:31.080 So a lot of different aspects underway

00:00:34.540 as we move into the election season of 2025.

00:00:41.200 And in particular, by the way,

00:00:43.100 we'll talk with our friend Riley Gaines,

00:00:45.680 who AOC decided to attack out of nowhere over swimming.

00:00:51.760 Sometimes I was texting with Riley yesterday

00:00:54.380 when this happened that a lot of these attacks

00:00:57.420 seem like gifts because so many of the people

00:01:01.300 that are attacking Riley for just saying

00:01:04.060 men shouldn't be involved in women's sports. 1.00

00:01:06.780 I can't believe that this has become

00:01:09.400 such Democrat Party orthodoxy

00:01:11.620 that AOC would decide kind of out of nowhere

00:01:14.980 to just start tweeting at Riley Gaines angrily

00:01:18.720 about her past swimming successes.

00:01:22.840 Speaking of swimming, I went for a rare dip

00:01:26.220 in the Atlantic Ocean, technically Biscayne Bay,

00:01:30.100 over the weekend.

00:01:31.320 And right around the same time,

00:01:33.760 there was, in fact, a shark attack.

00:01:35.680 Yes, 46-year-old guy got attacked.

00:01:39.640 You sent me the link, and I was looking at it.

00:01:43.020 And, I mean, can you imagine

00:01:44.940 if you had gotten attacked by a shark?

00:01:46.580 After all our shark...

00:01:47.400 This is why I don't want to tempt fate

00:01:48.940 with the Alcatraz.

00:01:49.240 After all of our shark discussion,

00:01:49.500 I'm just saying, this is...

00:01:51.180 I'm starting to worry about your Alcatraz

00:01:53.100 swimming a little bit here, buddy,

00:01:54.100 which we've already committed to.

00:01:55.660 And I'm going to be in that launch boat

00:01:56.900 cheering you on nice and warm

00:01:58.700 with my Crockett hot cocoa

00:02:00.540 what we're going to start making by then.

00:02:02.920 But this guy, I believe, was snorkeling,

00:02:05.560 and it looked like he tried to touch the shark,

00:02:08.300 which is a bad idea.

00:02:09.400 Oh, well, that's very, very different.

00:02:12.220 It was not a predatory attack.

00:02:13.940 It was a leave-me-alone bite on the hand,

00:02:16.200 and he had to go to the hospital.

00:02:17.320 But technically, a shark attack

00:02:19.320 not far from where I was swimming.

00:02:21.120 On Sunday, I was walking into church.

00:02:23.600 This is 100% true.

00:02:25.120 Guy I had not met before comes up,

00:02:27.700 and he says that he is part

00:02:29.360 of a long-distance swimming team.

00:02:31.900 And they have been hearing us talk about

00:02:34.260 he had swam Catalina.

00:02:35.700 He had swam from Alcatraz,

00:02:38.880 and they do regular long training sessions,

00:02:42.760 and he was offering his skill set

00:02:45.540 and his team to me as a training companion.

00:02:49.480 This is, I mean, legitimately,

00:02:50.980 as I am walking into church on Sunday,

00:02:54.340 this gentleman I had never met before came up,

00:02:56.880 and he wanted me to know

00:02:58.440 that he had my back on the swims

00:03:00.280 and that he and the team were ready

00:03:01.880 to assist as necessary.

00:03:03.160 And I told him, I said,

00:03:05.180 well, I'm kind of getting a little bit terrified,

00:03:07.720 not of the swim,

00:03:09.180 but that I'm tempting fate,

00:03:10.740 and I'm going to be eaten by a shark.

00:03:12.880 And he told me that I would be fine.

00:03:14.400 So I hope he's right.

00:03:16.160 But yeah, you narrowly avoided attack

00:03:19.380 on a swim in Biscayne Bay.

00:03:23.320 Speaking of attack,

00:03:25.660 Buck, I cannot believe

00:03:29.940 that New York City

00:03:31.480 is really going to elect

00:03:33.540 Zoran Mamdani.

00:03:36.140 And the more videos I watch,

00:03:39.400 the more deep dive I do

00:03:41.160 on his life story,

00:03:43.180 I'm not sure there has ever been 0.86

00:03:45.820 a more transparent liar 0.98

00:03:48.660 liar that has accomplished 1.00

00:03:51.240 nothing in his life 0.97

00:03:53.160 that is poised for

00:03:54.940 an election victory

00:03:57.000 like Mamdani is.

00:03:59.540 35 years old,

00:04:01.040 never really done anything

00:04:03.020 of any significance in his life,

00:04:05.760 was raised in Uganda,

00:04:08.100 and unbelievably,

00:04:10.380 24 years after 9-11,

00:04:12.940 we really have hit

00:04:14.060 the Norm MacDonald joke

00:04:15.600 where everyone now says,

00:04:19.160 oh, can you imagine on the left

00:04:21.100 the Islamophobia

00:04:22.240 that so many victims of 9-11

00:04:24.440 had to deal with?

00:04:26.000 And Mamdani claimed

00:04:27.140 to have an aunt

00:04:28.180 that was afraid to wear her hijab 1.00

00:04:31.360 on the New York City metro

00:04:33.760 after the 9-11 terror attack.

00:04:36.780 And now, after it was pointed out

00:04:39.480 that the aunt story

00:04:40.660 couldn't possibly have been true,

00:04:43.060 he now says

00:04:44.460 it wasn't his aunt,

00:04:46.160 it was actually

00:04:47.540 his father's cousin

00:04:49.140 who passed away

00:04:50.640 a few years ago.

00:04:51.800 This is after he was caught

00:04:53.160 in the lie on an aunt.

00:04:55.220 Let's play this cut two, please.

00:04:57.280 I was speaking about my aunt,

00:04:59.180 I was speaking about

00:05:00.140 Zerafui,

00:05:01.780 my father's cousin,

00:05:03.720 sadly passed away

00:05:04.700 a few years ago.

00:05:06.380 And for the takeaway

00:05:08.020 from my more than 10-minute address

00:05:09.700 about Islamophobia

00:05:10.780 in this race

00:05:11.380 and in this city

00:05:11.940 to be the question

00:05:13.820 of my aunt

00:05:14.480 tells you everything

00:05:15.580 about Andrew Cuomo.

00:05:18.100 I mean, why does that,

00:05:19.540 I mean, if I said to you, Buck,

00:05:21.740 something that,

00:05:22.680 I mean, I've got two aunts

00:05:25.000 that are both deceased,

00:05:26.280 but if I said something

00:05:27.620 very specific

00:05:28.520 about their life story

00:05:30.180 at a point

00:05:31.660 in my political career,

00:05:33.220 it wouldn't be unfair

00:05:34.440 for people to say,

00:05:35.960 okay, tell me about these

00:05:37.180 aunts of yours.

00:05:38.060 Yes, he made it an issue.

00:05:41.280 This is the Jussie Smollett,

00:05:43.140 how dare you question me

00:05:44.660 when I'm caught in my lie, sir?

00:05:47.440 Well, yeah, actually.

00:05:49.100 That's how this works.

00:05:50.340 A few things on this, Clay.

00:05:52.000 One is the lack of,

00:05:55.920 first, Islamophobia

00:05:56.760 is a nonsense term.

00:05:58.400 I think Christopher Hitchens

00:05:59.280 once said it's like

00:06:00.140 a nonsense term

00:06:01.080 used by thugs 1.00

00:06:03.800 to silence idiots 1.00

00:06:04.680 or something like that. 1.00

00:06:05.660 It was essentially

00:06:06.440 the whole point

00:06:07.700 of Islamophobia

00:06:08.460 is to create some word

00:06:10.540 that shuts down criticism

00:06:11.880 of aspects of a faith

00:06:14.240 that now has about

00:06:15.340 two billion adherents worldwide

00:06:16.860 and is certainly something

00:06:18.960 that people should be allowed

00:06:19.960 to discuss.

00:06:21.380 Phobia is an irrational fear of.

00:06:23.200 There was a period of time

00:06:24.380 where there was plenty

00:06:25.960 of rational fear

00:06:27.060 of radicalized elements

00:06:28.580 from within the Islamic world.

00:06:30.100 And by the way,

00:06:30.700 there still is plenty

00:06:32.080 of rational discussion

00:06:33.420 to be had about elements

00:06:35.480 of the Islamic world

00:06:36.740 that are a problem

00:06:38.480 for Western civilization

00:06:39.600 and for the state of Israel,

00:06:42.140 for America,

00:06:42.840 for a whole bunch of things.

00:06:43.720 Okay.

00:06:44.220 But putting that aside

00:06:45.120 for a second,

00:06:46.040 a couple of things.

00:06:46.940 One is,

00:06:47.680 I mentioned this yesterday,

00:06:49.240 it is to America's 0.71

00:06:50.300 extreme credit

00:06:51.460 that there was so little

00:06:53.100 to the American people,

00:06:55.140 there was so little

00:06:55.760 actual Islamic bigotry 0.67

00:06:58.320 on display here

00:06:59.420 after 9-11

00:07:00.280 given the scope,

00:07:01.640 scale of those attacks.

00:07:02.440 And the continued attacks

00:07:04.260 that happened,

00:07:04.840 this is something

00:07:05.320 that gets lost

00:07:06.020 in this discussion, Clay.

00:07:07.500 There were further

00:07:08.900 jihadist mass murders

00:07:10.640 of Americans

00:07:11.380 that went on

00:07:12.360 for the better part

00:07:13.520 of two decades here.

00:07:14.680 It's kind of slowed down

00:07:15.820 in the last few years,

00:07:16.700 but it was a regular thing.

00:07:19.080 Oh, another,

00:07:19.960 another, you know,

00:07:21.500 bomb goes off somewhere

00:07:22.720 or someone's run down

00:07:24.120 10 people for no reason

00:07:25.260 in the street

00:07:25.920 in a mass murder attack.

00:07:26.980 And so with all

00:07:28.840 of that going on

00:07:29.720 and we had

00:07:30.960 multiple wars

00:07:31.740 and counterinsurgency

00:07:32.680 operations going on

00:07:33.940 against Islamist elements

00:07:35.400 and a, you know,

00:07:37.200 billions and billions

00:07:38.100 of dollars spent

00:07:38.720 on security,

00:07:39.420 we effectively have

00:07:40.500 airport security lines

00:07:41.680 because of Islamic radicalism.

00:07:43.380 Thanks, Islamic radicalism. 1.00

00:07:45.300 With all of that,

00:07:47.160 they still have to

00:07:48.380 make up stories

00:07:49.300 like this.

00:07:50.560 Zoran Mamdani,

00:07:51.660 he's not telling a story

00:07:52.960 about something

00:07:53.680 that would be truly

00:07:54.760 horrific and wrong.

00:07:55.560 You know, oh my gosh,

00:07:56.360 the firebombing

00:07:57.660 of a mosque

00:07:58.240 that occurred on,

00:07:59.580 you know,

00:08:00.000 in Brooklyn, right?

00:08:01.200 No, none of that happened.

00:08:03.140 But he's a theater kid

00:08:04.800 cosplaying radical

00:08:06.260 and so it's totally normal

00:08:08.080 for him to make up

00:08:09.000 the story of the aunt

00:08:10.760 who among hundreds

00:08:12.760 of thousands

00:08:13.380 of Muslims

00:08:14.320 in New York City

00:08:15.060 was the one

00:08:15.920 who was too scared

00:08:17.000 to ride the subway

00:08:17.740 with her hijab.

00:08:18.900 Give me a break, dude. 0.97

00:08:19.980 Clay, the guy's a fake 0.99

00:08:21.300 and he's a phony, 0.99

00:08:22.020 but the people voting 0.97

00:08:22.680 for him don't care.

00:08:24.360 Yeah, well, 1.00

00:08:25.000 let me hit you 1.00

00:08:25.660 with a couple

00:08:26.160 of more clips

00:08:26.980 that continue

00:08:27.860 to get attention.

00:08:30.780 This is in September

00:08:32.180 of 2023.

00:08:33.880 I know most of you

00:08:35.160 know this,

00:08:35.620 but maybe you've got

00:08:36.280 friends or family

00:08:37.240 out there.

00:08:38.040 I just saw a report,

00:08:39.720 Buck,

00:08:40.360 that New York City's

00:08:41.620 mayoral race

00:08:42.660 is on track

00:08:43.660 for the highest turnout

00:08:44.960 since 1993.

00:08:47.060 That was the

00:08:47.980 Rudy Giuliani win.

00:08:50.060 So,

00:08:51.020 WOR,

00:08:51.960 people in New York City

00:08:53.200 are woken up.

00:08:55.360 There is a lot

00:08:56.560 of enthusiasm.

00:08:57.720 There's a lot

00:08:58.260 of interest here.

00:08:59.700 Let me play a couple

00:09:00.900 of these cuts

00:09:01.620 from Momdani.

00:09:02.880 This is September

00:09:03.940 of 2023.

00:09:06.100 We have to make clear,

00:09:07.540 this is a quote,

00:09:08.680 that when the boot

00:09:09.620 of the NYPD

00:09:10.980 is on your neck,

00:09:12.980 it's been laced

00:09:14.060 by the IDF.

00:09:16.380 This is Momdani,

00:09:17.580 again,

00:09:18.100 cut three,

00:09:19.400 September 2023.

00:09:20.640 The importance for me

00:09:22.360 of international solidarity

00:09:24.280 is that it takes me

00:09:25.600 out of the American 0.77

00:09:26.600 political landscape

00:09:27.580 that reminds me

00:09:28.900 just how tame

00:09:30.440 some of the things

00:09:31.280 are that I'm actually

00:09:32.260 calling for.

00:09:34.060 And it reminds me

00:09:35.780 of the necessity

00:09:36.480 of grounding ourselves

00:09:37.600 in the struggles

00:09:38.440 as opposed to

00:09:39.740 the fights

00:09:40.260 around the struggles.

00:09:41.800 For anyone

00:09:42.740 to care

00:09:43.900 about these issues,

00:09:46.300 we have to make

00:09:47.260 them hyper-lobal.

00:09:48.000 We have to make clear

00:09:49.920 that when

00:09:50.580 the boot

00:09:51.700 of the NYPD

00:09:52.640 is on your neck,

00:09:54.800 it's been laced

00:09:55.880 by the IDF.

00:09:57.500 We're in a country

00:09:58.480 where those

00:10:00.220 connections abound,

00:10:01.980 especially in New York City.

00:10:03.560 You have so many

00:10:04.500 opportunities

00:10:05.180 to make clear

00:10:06.740 the ways in which

00:10:08.200 that struggle

00:10:09.260 over there

00:10:09.880 is tied to

00:10:10.800 capital's interest

00:10:11.560 over here.

00:10:12.140 Okay, let me play

00:10:14.200 one more, Buck.

00:10:15.100 And again,

00:10:15.600 he said when the

00:10:16.820 NYPD boot

00:10:18.440 is on your throat,

00:10:19.940 it has been laced

00:10:21.380 by the IDF.

00:10:23.420 Here he is

00:10:24.360 in 2020

00:10:25.200 saying,

00:10:27.020 we don't need police.

00:10:28.460 They don't create safety.

00:10:30.420 We need to take 0.87

00:10:31.220 the money

00:10:31.640 and defund

00:10:32.780 the NYPD.

00:10:34.280 This is about

00:10:34.800 as direct

00:10:35.360 as you can be.

00:10:36.300 Cut 33.

00:10:37.260 We need to defund

00:10:38.280 these institutions.

00:10:39.720 And I say that

00:10:40.400 as somebody

00:10:40.840 who has grown up

00:10:41.900 in this city,

00:10:42.480 who has seen

00:10:42.960 what these cops can do,

00:10:44.300 and who has seen

00:10:44.800 the ways in which

00:10:45.660 that police

00:10:46.580 have been integrated

00:10:48.120 into every part

00:10:49.000 of our lives,

00:10:49.960 that we had them

00:10:50.440 in our high schools,

00:10:51.380 that we had them

00:10:51.840 in our middle schools.

00:10:53.060 We do not need

00:10:54.300 police to be

00:10:55.180 in these places.

00:10:56.040 They do not create safety.

00:10:57.940 We need to

00:10:58.680 take this money,

00:10:59.880 defund the NYPD,

00:11:01.060 and refund the people.

00:11:03.700 I mean,

00:11:04.820 this is pretty straightforward.

00:11:06.340 The guy has told you

00:11:07.420 what at least

00:11:08.560 he thought was popular

00:11:09.880 at the time,

00:11:11.100 which is

00:11:11.640 he's a shape-shifting

00:11:13.000 amoeba 0.96

00:11:13.460 that is just

00:11:14.280 an actor

00:11:15.260 more than anything else,

00:11:16.520 I think.

00:11:17.260 Here's the truth, Clay.

00:11:18.820 It's like when they

00:11:19.700 hit him with all these ads,

00:11:21.000 all Cuomo has run. 1.00

00:11:21.900 Cuomo's run a garbage campaign 0.99

00:11:23.380 relative to what 1.00

00:11:24.820 it should have been.

00:11:25.560 For a guy who,

00:11:26.380 you can tell

00:11:26.940 that he's a Nepo baby 0.99

00:11:28.060 who became governor

00:11:29.280 because daddy was governor

00:11:30.580 and he has a last name

00:11:31.960 that New York has recognized. 0.89

00:11:33.260 He was a horrible governor, 0.93

00:11:34.340 by the way. 0.81

00:11:35.460 He's not a good campaigner.

00:11:36.600 He's actually not

00:11:37.100 a talented politician.

00:11:38.060 He has not run

00:11:39.440 a good campaign

00:11:40.260 in the city of New York

00:11:41.300 at all.

00:11:42.160 And as I've said,

00:11:43.060 if Mamdani's an F 0.87

00:11:44.160 as mayor in waiting,

00:11:46.240 Cuomo's maybe a C-.

00:11:48.260 Better,

00:11:49.260 better,

00:11:49.860 but not great.

00:11:50.720 Not great at all.

00:11:52.160 And I think that

00:11:53.440 the attacks on Mamdani

00:11:56.820 saying he doesn't have

00:11:57.960 enough experience,

00:11:59.580 the people voting for him

00:12:00.340 don't care.

00:12:01.440 And the attacks on Mamdani

00:12:03.460 that you and I

00:12:04.220 are now leveling,

00:12:05.540 which is that he's clearly

00:12:07.000 a woke radical leftist

00:12:09.120 who is anti-cop

00:12:10.680 at his core.

00:12:12.060 Clay,

00:12:12.660 they've already gotten

00:12:13.400 around this by saying,

00:12:14.700 you know,

00:12:15.160 he believed that then,

00:12:16.440 he's apologized,

00:12:17.660 he'll keep Jessica Tish

00:12:19.000 in her role

00:12:19.720 as NYPD commissioner

00:12:20.900 whom everyone respects.

00:12:22.220 And by the way,

00:12:23.120 people do respect.

00:12:24.340 But how long does he

00:12:25.100 keep her in that role? 0.99

00:12:26.220 And does he allow her

00:12:27.020 to actually do the job

00:12:28.000 the way she wants to?

00:12:29.020 Does she end up resigning

00:12:30.300 in a year in frustration

00:12:32.380 because she's handcuffed,

00:12:34.480 so to speak,

00:12:35.160 from doing the job

00:12:36.140 the way that she should,

00:12:37.000 even if she's kept

00:12:37.660 in that role?

00:12:38.740 But Clay,

00:12:39.100 that requires a degree

00:12:40.320 of political wisdom,

00:12:41.360 insight, and foresight

00:12:42.460 that you and I

00:12:44.060 and all of you

00:12:45.360 with us now have.

00:12:47.420 But the Mamdani voters don't.

00:12:50.100 They're just going to excuse

00:12:51.260 whatever they have to excuse.

00:12:52.840 And by the way,

00:12:53.360 a lot of them

00:12:54.000 think that he's just

00:12:55.000 fooling some of the normies

00:12:56.760 and is still every bit

00:12:58.140 the radical

00:12:58.560 and they like that, right?

00:12:59.720 So, you know,

00:13:00.400 we're preaching to the choir

00:13:02.400 on how anti-copy is,

00:13:03.980 but they're playing this game

00:13:05.400 very well

00:13:06.140 in the Mamdani campaign.

00:13:07.800 We will play

00:13:08.760 another couple of cuts,

00:13:10.320 including Mamdani's dad

00:13:12.160 saying that Hitler learned 0.96

00:13:14.480 everything he knows

00:13:15.460 from Abraham Lincoln.

00:13:17.840 Again, these are direct words

00:13:19.600 That would be news

00:13:19.960 to Abraham Lincoln,

00:13:21.120 which is the most amazing thing.

00:13:22.620 Abe would be like, 1.00

00:13:23.520 whoa, I didn't know

00:13:24.280 that I learned everything,

00:13:26.120 or rather that I, you know,

00:13:27.220 taught everything Hitler needed to know. 0.90

00:13:28.280 That he was the inspiration

00:13:29.460 for Nazidom,

00:13:30.800 according to Mamdani's dad.

00:13:32.820 This is what he's been

00:13:33.760 raised to believe.

00:13:35.760 And this race, again, 1.00

00:13:38.300 there's data out there

00:13:39.720 that suggests

00:13:40.320 that we may be headed

00:13:42.040 for the highest turnout

00:13:43.360 in a mayoral race

00:13:44.680 since 1993.

00:13:46.420 So, maybe there is hope

00:13:47.780 that I could be wearing

00:13:49.220 a red beret

00:13:50.100 for a week on the program.

00:13:52.280 Curtis Sliwa

00:13:52.880 is going to join us tomorrow

00:13:53.980 and make the case 1.00

00:13:55.440 for why I'm a moron. 1.00

00:13:57.000 And some of you 0.99

00:13:58.380 have already signed on to that.

00:14:00.100 We'll play some fun feedback

00:14:01.180 on that.

00:14:02.100 Look, having a lifeline

00:14:03.240 during an emergency is key.

00:14:04.840 Rapid radios

00:14:05.460 can be that lifeline.

00:14:06.680 These are modern-day

00:14:07.440 walkie-talkies.

00:14:08.700 They work on a nationwide

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00:14:57.120 Saving America.

00:14:59.060 One thought at a time.

00:15:01.020 Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

00:15:03.760 Find them.

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00:15:12.500 the Honest Talk podcast.

00:15:14.620 I'm Jennifer Stewart.

00:15:15.740 And I'm Catherine Clark.

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00:15:34.920 We have some things

00:15:35.900 to update you on.

00:15:37.180 One, Clay,

00:15:39.040 just this is a pickup

00:15:40.300 from yesterday.

00:15:41.200 Remember how

00:15:41.860 I played Governor Hochul,

00:15:44.340 the governor of New York,

00:15:45.280 Kathy Hochul,

00:15:45.940 the accidental governor.

00:15:47.160 In fact,

00:15:48.020 only the governor

00:15:48.920 because Cuomo

00:15:50.460 was grabbing ladies

00:15:52.260 by the waist

00:15:53.680 and kissing them

00:15:54.940 close to the mouth,

00:15:56.360 but not on the mouth,

00:15:57.640 but in Italian fashion.

00:16:01.240 Hochul

00:16:01.800 was claiming

00:16:03.400 that she doesn't even know

00:16:05.480 what the crowd

00:16:07.020 was chanting.

00:16:07.660 They were chanting

00:16:08.940 at the left-wing loon rally,

00:16:11.380 tax the rich,

00:16:12.580 tax the rich.

00:16:13.480 We played that yesterday,

00:16:14.480 and I said,

00:16:15.000 they're moving

00:16:15.600 from race communism

00:16:16.620 to more old-school

00:16:17.640 class communism,

00:16:18.700 right?

00:16:18.880 The original.

00:16:19.760 Communism is just

00:16:20.520 a religion of state envy

00:16:21.740 or rather of state-enforced envy

00:16:24.320 that always turns

00:16:25.140 into totalitarianism.

00:16:26.140 That's what real communism is.

00:16:27.960 It's not about the workers

00:16:29.340 and the revolutionary proletariat

00:16:31.060 and all.

00:16:31.320 That's all just,

00:16:32.280 that's all the make-believe stuff.

00:16:33.540 Once you get into, like,

00:16:34.380 the final boss level

00:16:36.200 of communism,

00:16:38.200 it's just totalitarianism

00:16:40.760 that roots itself

00:16:42.700 deep into the public psyche

00:16:44.260 via envy and hatred

00:16:45.900 of all that is good.

00:16:46.920 That's what actual communism is.

00:16:49.560 Envy is at the core of it all.

00:16:51.440 Here is Kathy Hochul, though, Clay. 1.00

00:16:53.100 I'm going to play

00:16:53.700 Mom Donnie's dad in a second,

00:16:55.060 but I just wanted to update this.

00:16:56.480 Kathy Hochul realizes that,

00:16:58.000 you know,

00:16:58.240 she's the governor of New York, 0.75

00:16:59.460 maybe going all in

00:17:02.160 on tax the rich

00:17:03.360 as a slogan

00:17:04.240 that a rally is not so great,

00:17:05.580 so now she's like,

00:17:06.300 I don't even know

00:17:07.040 what they were saying.

00:17:08.180 Play nine.

00:17:08.960 I thought they were saying

00:17:09.760 let's go bills.

00:17:10.520 I wasn't sure.

00:17:12.180 When you're up there,

00:17:13.400 I heard some noise.

00:17:14.500 I heard a lot of cheers,

00:17:15.920 but later on,

00:17:17.080 it became clear to me

00:17:17.960 that there is a,

00:17:18.700 I know there's passion for that.

00:17:20.340 I mean, I went in there

00:17:21.560 as the leader

00:17:22.180 of the Democratic Party

00:17:23.360 whose job it is to unify

00:17:25.700 and unify behind

00:17:27.240 the Democratic nominee.

00:17:29.020 I love the energy out there.

00:17:30.940 I told them that,

00:17:32.180 and what I want to do

00:17:32.740 is bottle all that up,

00:17:34.380 you know,

00:17:34.540 use it in a few days,

00:17:36.400 but take that to Long Island

00:17:38.840 and the Hudson Valley.

00:17:40.960 Clay,

00:17:41.380 Kathy Hochul,

00:17:42.020 let's play a game. 1.00

00:17:43.440 Moron or liar? 1.00

00:17:45.980 Liar here. 1.00

00:17:47.180 Sometimes often a moron, 1.00

00:17:48.780 but she did not think 1.00

00:17:50.520 they were saying

00:17:51.260 let's go bills.

00:17:52.560 I mean,

00:17:53.000 tax the rich

00:17:53.920 was pretty clear.

00:17:54.980 I mean,

00:17:55.120 you and I could hear it.

00:17:56.360 We were not at the rally,

00:17:57.740 and if you were at the rally,

00:18:01.300 you would have seen

00:18:02.080 some people's faces

00:18:03.160 and been able to lip read them

00:18:04.980 as well as they were chanting

00:18:06.780 tax the rich.

00:18:08.080 Again,

00:18:08.800 I think there is a quiet panic

00:18:10.900 setting in

00:18:11.780 among Democrats

00:18:14.680 that know what it takes

00:18:16.200 to win elections.

00:18:17.580 That if AOC and Momdani

00:18:20.280 are the face of the Democrat Party,

00:18:23.260 they're in trouble.

00:18:23.980 And really,

00:18:26.280 liberal became

00:18:27.320 such a negative word

00:18:28.700 for the Democrats

00:18:29.660 that they really ran away from it.

00:18:31.500 They talk about being progressives now.

00:18:34.260 I think New York City liberal

00:18:36.840 and California liberal

00:18:39.360 is going to be a huge part

00:18:41.780 of the 2026 campaign.

00:18:44.400 Because I think

00:18:45.240 if you look in New York City,

00:18:46.700 you're going to have Momdani,

00:18:48.140 you're going to have AOC,

00:18:49.260 you're going to have Schumer,

00:18:50.440 and you're going to have

00:18:51.440 Hakeem Jeffries.

00:18:53.340 That's four New York City

00:18:54.620 guys and gals.

00:18:55.820 And you're just going to say

00:18:56.860 those are New York City liberals.

00:18:58.820 And then as Newsom gears up

00:19:03.080 to run for the presidency,

00:19:05.820 I think California liberal

00:19:07.440 will also be an insult.

00:19:09.880 And I think increasingly

00:19:11.640 the decisions being made

00:19:13.300 by places like New York and L.A.

00:19:15.600 are at extreme odds

00:19:17.060 with the rest of the country

00:19:18.380 in a way that the Democrat Party

00:19:19.900 recognizes is toxic to their brand

00:19:22.320 in what they would call

00:19:24.220 flyover country.

00:19:25.580 And they have to win

00:19:26.540 some of those races

00:19:27.460 in order to have power

00:19:28.840 to enact the agendas

00:19:30.240 of New York and L.A.

00:19:31.320 Heck, Buck, even San Francisco,

00:19:33.540 I think you've got to give

00:19:34.180 some credit to their new mayor,

00:19:35.700 Daniel Lurie.

00:19:37.000 He seems sane, right?

00:19:38.560 On a level that Momdani

00:19:40.960 is not sane.

00:19:42.080 On a level that Brandon Johnson

00:19:43.700 in Chicago is not sane.

00:19:45.680 On a level that

00:19:46.780 that Karen Bass,

00:19:48.780 the mayor of Los Angeles,

00:19:50.960 is not, right?

00:19:52.040 Those are people

00:19:52.760 who are clear,

00:19:53.740 failed left-wing politicians.

00:19:56.220 I think some cities,

00:19:57.660 Muriel Bowser seems

00:19:58.840 somewhat reasonable, right?

00:20:00.740 The mayor of Washington, D.C.

00:20:04.280 The mayor,

00:20:05.040 and I'm saying that

00:20:05.680 from a Democrat context perspective,

00:20:08.100 not that I agree

00:20:08.940 with everything they do,

00:20:10.100 but just, hey,

00:20:11.260 Trump trying to drive down

00:20:12.560 violent crime in Washington, D.C.,

00:20:14.900 Pam kind of in favor of that. 0.99

00:20:16.240 That's Muriel Bowser. 0.51

00:20:18.480 Daniel Lurie,

00:20:19.400 the mayor of San Francisco,

00:20:20.700 actually negotiating with Trump

00:20:22.400 to try to say,

00:20:23.380 hey, we're trying to implement

00:20:25.160 a lot of the policies

00:20:26.080 you want to put in place,

00:20:27.220 but if I do it,

00:20:28.600 maybe we can get it through

00:20:30.000 without the chaos

00:20:31.180 that might come from people

00:20:32.540 who just hate you

00:20:33.400 in San Francisco,

00:20:34.920 rejecting the choices

00:20:35.920 you're making

00:20:36.440 even when they're rational.

00:20:37.820 my biggest concern, Buck,

00:20:40.840 is they make all these choices

00:20:43.160 that are awful,

00:20:44.520 and then they still

00:20:46.140 are going to just say,

00:20:47.660 well, the reason why

00:20:48.780 you know this didn't work,

00:20:50.340 because we didn't tax

00:20:51.420 rich people enough,

00:20:53.040 because we didn't go

00:20:54.580 far left-wing enough,

00:20:56.660 that's the reason

00:20:57.620 why the policies

00:20:58.600 that we're trying

00:20:59.380 to put in place fail.

00:21:00.520 That's my concern

00:21:01.380 about Mondani,

00:21:02.520 if he wins,

00:21:03.680 that they will refuse

00:21:04.600 to accept responsibility

00:21:05.920 if he tries to put

00:21:07.180 these policies in place.

00:21:08.680 I'm sorry, Claire,

00:21:09.320 are you trying to suggest

00:21:10.160 that if he's as much

00:21:11.260 of a disaster as you and I

00:21:12.680 and every sane person

00:21:13.580 with us right now

00:21:14.400 thinks he will be,

00:21:16.240 the voters of Mondani

00:21:17.540 will claim that real

00:21:18.400 Mondani-ism 1.00

00:21:19.040 has never been tried?

00:21:21.260 It's very sad.

00:21:22.600 It's very sad.

00:21:23.280 It's very true.

00:21:24.160 It's very, very certain.

00:21:25.120 All right,

00:21:25.400 speaking of Mondani,

00:21:26.860 Mondani,

00:21:27.640 I will say also,

00:21:28.600 everyone butchers

00:21:29.360 this guy's name

00:21:30.060 all the time.

00:21:31.360 It's amazing.

00:21:33.060 It shouldn't be that hard

00:21:34.300 to say but for some reason

00:21:35.600 going from the M

00:21:36.520 to the N, I think.

00:21:37.820 Am I mispronouncing this

00:21:39.360 or is this one of the few,

00:21:40.480 Zoran Mondani, right?

00:21:41.980 Like I can pronounce this.

00:21:43.020 Mondani, yes.

00:21:43.480 Yeah.

00:21:44.040 A lot of people say

00:21:44.740 Mondani,

00:21:45.980 you know,

00:21:47.260 Mondania,

00:21:48.980 you know,

00:21:49.220 they get all kinds

00:21:50.360 of things going on here.

00:21:51.260 All right,

00:21:51.480 let's get into his dad.

00:21:53.140 Let's talk about his dad

00:21:54.040 for a second here.

00:21:54.900 Zoran Mondani's father

00:21:55.940 who's a Columbia University

00:21:57.640 professor,

00:21:58.800 of course,

00:22:00.640 Mahmoud Mondani.

00:22:03.280 This is not long ago.

00:22:05.920 Oh, I know.

00:22:06.520 Here is Zoran's dad

00:22:08.860 on this country

00:22:10.820 that, remember,

00:22:11.860 Zoran is here

00:22:12.840 as a refugee.

00:22:15.220 Zoran is here

00:22:16.340 because the place

00:22:18.060 that he came from

00:22:19.180 was not a place

00:22:19.960 he could stay, right?

00:22:21.400 I mean,

00:22:21.580 that's my,

00:22:22.100 I think his dad came here

00:22:23.200 from Uganda

00:22:23.900 and whether he's not

00:22:25.580 technically a refugee,

00:22:26.480 he's certainly an immigrant

00:22:27.140 because Uganda,

00:22:28.640 it's got problems.

00:22:29.620 It's got a little bit of problems.

00:22:30.300 It's not a place

00:22:30.800 that a lot of people

00:22:31.680 choose to go

00:22:32.940 from a Western

00:22:34.940 civilized country, right?

00:22:36.440 There's just not

00:22:36.940 that many people

00:22:37.460 who are like,

00:22:37.740 hey, where are you headed next?

00:22:38.700 Oh, I was thinking

00:22:39.300 about America.

00:22:40.700 I was thinking

00:22:41.440 about England,

00:22:43.840 maybe Germany,

00:22:45.240 and then I chose

00:22:46.480 Uganda instead.

00:22:47.500 I don't think a lot

00:22:48.240 of people make that choice.

00:22:49.260 It was Italy 0.87

00:22:49.820 or it was Uganda.

00:22:51.680 Yeah, most people,

00:22:52.880 including Mondani's

00:22:54.080 own family,

00:22:55.120 have made the choice

00:22:55.960 to come back.

00:22:56.640 I do love Buck

00:22:57.460 that while he doesn't

00:22:58.320 trust the NYPD,

00:23:00.020 when he goes to Uganda,

00:23:01.220 they have a full security force

00:23:03.160 protecting the family.

00:23:04.640 Yes, but of course.

00:23:05.700 But of course.

00:23:07.100 Here is his dad

00:23:08.900 back in 2022,

00:23:10.100 Columbia University professor,

00:23:11.780 Professor Mondani,

00:23:13.140 play at six.

00:23:14.740 America is the genesis

00:23:17.060 of what we call

00:23:18.660 settler colonialism.

00:23:20.420 And the American model

00:23:21.920 was exported

00:23:23.100 all around the world.

00:23:24.760 Abraham Lincoln

00:23:26.500 generalized the solution

00:23:28.760 of reservations.

00:23:30.880 They herded American Indians 1.00

00:23:32.940 into separate territories.

00:23:37.580 For the Nazis, 0.98

00:23:39.500 for the Nazis,

00:23:41.300 this was the inspiration.

00:23:43.680 Hitler realized two things. 0.69

00:23:45.840 One,

00:23:46.900 the genocide was doable.

00:23:49.460 It is possible

00:23:50.480 to do genocide.

00:23:52.580 That's what Hitler realized. 0.95

00:23:54.780 Second thing Hitler realized 0.98

00:23:56.340 is that you don't have

00:23:58.380 to have a common citizenship.

00:24:00.420 You can differentiate

00:24:01.480 between people.

00:24:03.300 The Nuremberg laws 0.82

00:24:04.540 were patterned

00:24:05.440 after American laws.

00:24:08.220 Anyway,

00:24:08.700 the U.S. put Indians 0.99

00:24:10.200 in reservations.

00:24:12.160 The U.S. invented 0.99

00:24:13.540 the model.

00:24:16.960 This is not true.

00:24:19.540 First of all,

00:24:19.900 when he talks about

00:24:20.260 settler colonialism,

00:24:21.220 I think he's trying

00:24:21.820 to speak specifically

00:24:22.620 in the context of Israel

00:24:23.780 as an apartheid state here 0.74

00:24:25.100 because obviously

00:24:26.420 America was a colony. 0.61

00:24:29.060 It was a colony

00:24:30.260 of settlers

00:24:31.340 and then we fought

00:24:32.800 a revolution

00:24:33.340 to become free.

00:24:34.560 I don't know

00:24:34.760 if he just skipped

00:24:35.320 that part of American history,

00:24:36.860 but it turned,

00:24:37.420 it was actually

00:24:38.220 the Spanish,

00:24:39.580 the French,

00:24:40.540 the Dutch,

00:24:41.260 the British,

00:24:41.840 they were the ones

00:24:43.160 who created this model,

00:24:45.400 not us.

00:24:45.740 This is actually

00:24:46.280 this argument

00:24:46.900 that he makes,

00:24:47.600 Buck,

00:24:47.800 this is why

00:24:48.640 I was so annoyed

00:24:50.240 and have not given them

00:24:52.200 any money.

00:24:52.800 What annoys Clay the most

00:24:53.780 is not the hatred

00:24:54.500 of America,

00:24:55.100 it's the wrong history.

00:24:57.700 Getting the history wrong.

00:24:58.980 You can hate America,

00:25:00.280 you have the right

00:25:01.000 to hate America,

00:25:02.220 but at least rooted

00:25:03.380 in historical accuracy,

00:25:05.120 this is like the,

00:25:06.440 and don't placate

00:25:07.740 those who hate America

00:25:08.860 and are rooted 1.00

00:25:09.800 in historical stupidity. 1.00

00:25:11.560 This is like 1.00

00:25:12.060 what happened

00:25:12.400 at my university,

00:25:13.380 George Washington University.

00:25:15.320 GW is now

00:25:16.320 the revolutionaries.

00:25:17.820 They were the colonials, 0.99

00:25:19.680 but they decided

00:25:20.900 that the colonials

00:25:22.520 had too much

00:25:23.340 of a context

00:25:24.120 of connection

00:25:24.820 to colonialism,

00:25:25.880 so they changed

00:25:27.960 the name

00:25:28.440 of the mascot.

00:25:30.240 We weren't

00:25:30.720 the colonial army.

00:25:33.700 We were

00:25:34.820 the colonized

00:25:36.100 who threw off

00:25:37.980 the oppressive

00:25:39.300 colonialism

00:25:40.540 that we were

00:25:42.200 founded upon,

00:25:43.160 right?

00:25:43.540 So,

00:25:43.940 if anything,

00:25:45.600 in the history,

00:25:46.820 we're the heroes

00:25:47.640 of the colonial

00:25:49.260 worldview

00:25:50.060 because we

00:25:50.980 took independence

00:25:52.420 from the places

00:25:53.820 that had colonized us.

00:25:55.760 In fact,

00:25:56.540 there were countries

00:25:57.480 where very explicitly

00:25:58.820 the removal

00:26:00.240 of the colonial

00:26:01.260 overlord

00:26:01.980 was premised

00:26:03.880 upon

00:26:04.320 the American

00:26:05.780 success in this,

00:26:06.980 right?

00:26:07.200 One example

00:26:07.780 would be

00:26:08.420 Haiti.

00:26:09.260 Haiti,

00:26:09.800 unfortunately.

00:26:10.580 The least successful

00:26:11.700 revolution

00:26:12.380 in the western

00:26:13.260 hemisphere,

00:26:13.840 probably.

00:26:14.600 But,

00:26:14.760 yes,

00:26:15.140 Buck,

00:26:15.400 to your point,

00:26:16.140 when in New York

00:26:17.140 City,

00:26:17.420 where you grew up,

00:26:19.080 one of the first

00:26:19.700 things they did

00:26:20.520 was tear down

00:26:21.640 the statue

00:26:22.220 of the king

00:26:23.220 and turn it

00:26:24.360 into lead

00:26:25.540 bullets.

00:26:27.200 I mean,

00:26:27.820 that is pretty

00:26:28.460 explicitly

00:26:29.260 anti-

00:26:30.480 the colonial

00:26:31.800 power

00:26:32.340 that puts you

00:26:33.300 in place.

00:26:33.580 So,

00:26:34.060 yes,

00:26:34.540 his argument

00:26:36.000 is bastardized

00:26:37.260 and what

00:26:37.780 it is really

00:26:38.340 designed to do,

00:26:39.540 and this is where

00:26:40.180 the identity

00:26:40.740 politics worldview

00:26:42.220 comes in,

00:26:42.980 is white men 1.00

00:26:44.020 are evil. 1.00

00:26:45.060 If you look

00:26:46.200 at what

00:26:47.080 the motivation

00:26:48.380 is by and large

00:26:49.860 of the modern

00:26:51.000 day Democrat

00:26:51.940 Party,

00:26:52.760 at its essence,

00:26:53.880 at its base,

00:26:54.920 it is white men 1.00

00:26:56.020 are evil. 1.00

00:26:56.680 That's what they

00:26:57.220 all believe.

00:26:58.160 Now,

00:26:58.380 some of those

00:26:58.920 white men 0.92

00:26:59.460 who take 0.99

00:27:00.200 their wives' 0.93

00:27:00.780 names are

00:27:01.520 voting also

00:27:02.500 to say white 1.00

00:27:03.440 men are evil. 0.99

00:27:04.280 There's a not 0.94

00:27:05.020 insubstantial cadre

00:27:06.100 of white people

00:27:06.840 that thinks that

00:27:07.720 white people are 1.00

00:27:08.560 evil. 1.00

00:27:08.840 They are

00:27:09.960 collaborators in the

00:27:11.360 wokeness.

00:27:11.820 White women 1.00

00:27:13.260 are actually

00:27:14.140 the founders

00:27:15.320 and primary

00:27:16.320 principal drivers

00:27:17.500 of the woke

00:27:18.380 virus in general.

00:27:19.680 In fact,

00:27:19.980 I think that's

00:27:20.460 likely true,

00:27:21.260 but it relies

00:27:22.380 on the villainy 0.99

00:27:23.800 of white men. 0.71

00:27:25.380 That is the

00:27:25.800 foundation of

00:27:27.040 the Democrat

00:27:27.580 Party.

00:27:28.380 And so when

00:27:29.500 Mom Donnie's

00:27:30.380 dad is making

00:27:31.220 the argument

00:27:32.000 that all that

00:27:33.960 is evil is

00:27:34.600 rooted in the

00:27:35.140 United States,

00:27:35.740 it's an intentional

00:27:36.520 argument because

00:27:37.260 what it leads

00:27:37.860 to is a

00:27:39.100 delegitimization

00:27:40.080 of the country

00:27:41.040 and its founding

00:27:41.720 and the

00:27:42.100 Declaration of

00:27:42.760 Independence 0.62

00:27:43.160 and the

00:27:43.560 Constitution,

00:27:44.460 and you can

00:27:44.980 tear it all

00:27:45.560 down as we

00:27:46.240 saw physically

00:27:46.860 happen in

00:27:47.400 2020.

00:27:48.120 There's also

00:27:48.440 an argument

00:27:48.860 that I've

00:27:49.500 thought of,

00:27:50.080 maybe Clay,

00:27:50.660 for a future

00:27:51.200 book,

00:27:51.680 but it would

00:27:51.980 be very

00:27:52.360 detailed and

00:27:52.900 historic and

00:27:53.480 have to get

00:27:53.920 deep into

00:27:54.240 the history.

00:27:54.840 But one of

00:27:56.000 the challenges

00:27:57.800 that the

00:27:58.440 Western world

00:27:59.120 has when it

00:27:59.820 comes to all

00:28:00.560 of this

00:28:01.300 wokeness and

00:28:03.320 historical oppression

00:28:04.360 stuff is that we

00:28:05.720 actually have

00:28:06.360 histories,

00:28:07.120 written histories,

00:28:07.740 that go back

00:28:08.420 quite a ways.

00:28:09.420 A lot of other

00:28:10.020 parts of the world

00:28:10.500 don't.

00:28:11.480 Yeah.

00:28:11.600 And so it's

00:28:12.140 harder for people

00:28:12.940 to know,

00:28:13.440 for example,

00:28:14.020 like you all

00:28:14.840 know that the

00:28:16.500 Portuguese and

00:28:17.260 the Spanish and

00:28:17.920 the French and

00:28:18.480 the British,

00:28:19.000 et cetera,

00:28:19.540 Western European

00:28:20.100 countries in the

00:28:20.840 age of exploration

00:28:21.840 starting right

00:28:22.560 around the early

00:28:23.620 1500s after

00:28:24.680 Columbus lands in

00:28:25.480 1492,

00:28:26.500 they start going

00:28:27.260 all over the

00:28:27.700 world,

00:28:27.920 they start

00:28:28.240 exploring,

00:28:28.920 and yes,

00:28:29.280 they fight and

00:28:29.880 they take over

00:28:30.500 pieces of land,

00:28:31.320 sometimes more

00:28:31.960 peacefully than

00:28:32.500 others,

00:28:32.860 but a lot of

00:28:33.480 the time with

00:28:33.860 violence and a lot

00:28:34.480 of the time they

00:28:34.860 spread disease.

00:28:35.860 But do people

00:28:36.240 know about all of

00:28:37.060 the tribes that

00:28:38.120 were exterminating

00:28:38.780 each other

00:28:39.140 beforehand?

00:28:40.280 Do people know

00:28:40.860 that the great

00:28:41.480 victory of the

00:28:43.900 Inca people, 0.98

00:28:44.740 for example,

00:28:45.360 was the

00:28:45.760 consolidation of

00:28:46.580 their empire

00:28:47.180 just a generation

00:28:48.500 before the arrival

00:28:49.440 of the Spaniards?

00:28:50.480 The consolidation

00:28:50.960 of an empire

00:28:51.680 that enslaved

00:28:52.360 and murdered

00:28:53.200 countless other

00:28:54.680 tribes.

00:28:55.900 They don't even

00:28:56.600 talk about this.

00:28:57.300 You talk about

00:28:57.740 the native

00:28:58.940 South Africans,

00:29:00.180 and this came up

00:29:00.900 recently when Trump

00:29:01.540 was talking about

00:29:02.060 South African

00:29:02.600 refugees.

00:29:03.800 How many of the

00:29:04.420 people that teach

00:29:05.080 about settler

00:29:05.580 colonialism,

00:29:07.080 for example,

00:29:07.600 at Columbia

00:29:07.920 University,

00:29:08.860 even know

00:29:09.460 that the

00:29:10.140 Zulus were 1.00

00:29:10.920 colonists?

00:29:12.280 The Zulu

00:29:12.800 tribe arrived

00:29:14.660 and through

00:29:16.080 warfare and

00:29:17.060 conquest and

00:29:17.880 enslavement of

00:29:19.060 those who were

00:29:19.700 there in advance

00:29:20.640 of the Zulus

00:29:21.180 became the

00:29:21.840 primary tribe

00:29:22.580 in that region

00:29:23.280 and the areas

00:29:24.160 that originally

00:29:24.720 the South African

00:29:25.660 Dutch colonists

00:29:26.580 colonized were

00:29:28.280 uninhabited.

00:29:29.640 Well, I mean,

00:29:30.880 this is not taught.

00:29:31.820 No one knows

00:29:32.260 these things.

00:29:32.660 This is all true.

00:29:34.040 This is also

00:29:34.720 the story of

00:29:35.840 human civilization

00:29:36.720 civilization is

00:29:37.460 human populations

00:29:38.800 moved to areas

00:29:39.760 where there was

00:29:40.780 no people,

00:29:41.420 right?

00:29:41.740 So at what

00:29:42.820 point does

00:29:44.020 land,

00:29:44.760 it's really

00:29:45.460 kind of amazing,

00:29:46.600 right?

00:29:46.840 The whole argument

00:29:47.560 is premised on,

00:29:48.740 to your point,

00:29:49.780 a fact that the

00:29:51.880 historical record

00:29:52.740 is very limited,

00:29:53.800 but land is,

00:29:56.900 like,

00:29:57.000 at what point do

00:29:57.800 you say,

00:29:58.200 oh, this land

00:29:58.800 is owned by

00:29:59.680 someone?

00:30:00.860 When do they

00:30:01.520 become the owners?

00:30:02.740 The whole premise

00:30:03.760 is just absolutely 0.98

00:30:04.840 ridiculous. 0.99

00:30:05.620 And these land 0.99

00:30:06.300 acknowledgments,

00:30:07.200 which are now

00:30:07.560 the basis of

00:30:08.540 almost every

00:30:09.080 major Democrat

00:30:09.860 event,

00:30:10.780 you know,

00:30:11.020 they start off

00:30:11.580 by apologizing

00:30:12.440 to the initial

00:30:13.460 owners of the

00:30:14.900 land or dwellers

00:30:16.640 of the land.

00:30:17.920 The great

00:30:18.900 exterminators,

00:30:19.900 if you're going

00:30:20.300 to look for them

00:30:20.820 of other human

00:30:21.400 beings,

00:30:21.840 would certainly

00:30:22.300 be the Mongols, 0.80

00:30:23.480 actually,

00:30:24.100 in the 13th.

00:30:24.640 How many of you

00:30:25.180 sit around thinking

00:30:25.800 a lot about the

00:30:26.400 Khurasmian Empire?

00:30:28.440 You might not

00:30:28.820 have even heard

00:30:29.220 of the Khurasmian.

00:30:29.660 It was actually

00:30:30.080 huge.

00:30:31.780 It was gone.

00:30:32.740 They killed

00:30:33.180 basically all of 0.86

00:30:34.080 them,

00:30:34.260 the Mongols.

00:30:34.780 They showed

00:30:35.100 up.

00:30:35.320 They didn't

00:30:35.520 like them.

00:30:36.000 They killed 1.00

00:30:36.280 all of them, 0.97

00:30:36.620 every man,

00:30:36.980 woman, 1.00

00:30:37.140 and child,

00:30:37.500 because that's

00:30:37.780 how they used

00:30:38.080 to do things.

00:30:38.760 The notion,

00:30:39.640 Clay,

00:30:40.060 that America

00:30:40.960 came up with

00:30:42.040 the idea of

00:30:42.860 genocide in all

00:30:43.840 of human history

00:30:44.500 is one of the 1.00

00:30:45.280 dumbest things 1.00

00:30:45.700 I've ever seen. 1.00

00:30:46.360 Only a truly 0.99

00:30:46.900 historically ignorant 1.00

00:30:47.780 person who hates 1.00

00:30:48.820 white men would 0.98

00:30:49.820 say such a thing,

00:30:50.660 and that is where

00:30:51.320 Mom Donnie's dad

00:30:52.260 comes down on this.

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00:32:44.880 Welcome back in.

00:32:46.260 Hour number three,

00:32:47.460 Clay Travis, Buck

00:32:48.660 Sexton Show.

00:32:50.200 A lot of positive

00:32:51.180 things.

00:32:51.820 I always try to

00:32:52.740 make sure that I

00:32:53.640 talk about the

00:32:54.300 positivity as much as

00:32:55.900 I possibly can.

00:32:57.620 We are continuing to

00:32:59.440 set new all-time

00:33:01.000 records.

00:33:01.800 In fact, the S&P

00:33:03.440 500, new all-time

00:33:05.420 record as I am

00:33:06.640 speaking to you.

00:33:07.660 The Dow Jones

00:33:08.440 Industrial Average,

00:33:09.940 new all-time record

00:33:11.340 as I am speaking to

00:33:12.780 you.

00:33:13.620 And the NASDAQ,

00:33:15.200 new all-time record

00:33:16.540 as I am speaking

00:33:17.920 with you.

00:33:18.740 All-time records.

00:33:21.180 For those of you

00:33:21.900 out there that

00:33:22.680 own stock in any

00:33:24.220 way, pensions,

00:33:25.360 401ks, individual

00:33:27.080 stocks, chances are

00:33:29.400 if you happen to go

00:33:30.660 gander at your stock

00:33:32.660 values, they have

00:33:33.900 never been higher in

00:33:35.320 your life.

00:33:36.520 And I do just want to

00:33:38.260 continue to point it

00:33:39.240 out that in April,

00:33:41.680 you were told, oh my

00:33:42.960 goodness, the stock

00:33:44.120 market is collapsing.

00:33:46.320 Donald Trump has no

00:33:47.460 idea what he's doing

00:33:48.420 with the economy, and

00:33:50.260 the S&P 500 is up

00:33:52.580 2,000 points since

00:33:55.500 then.

00:33:56.320 If you had bought

00:33:57.300 stock back in April,

00:33:59.100 you're up around 40%

00:34:01.400 now on those stock

00:34:04.180 purchases.

00:34:05.140 If you merely just

00:34:08.000 held on to your

00:34:09.620 existing stocks and

00:34:10.960 just didn't even pay

00:34:11.820 attention to any of it,

00:34:13.180 this year, the S&P 500

00:34:15.620 is up right at 18%

00:34:18.140 so far.

00:34:19.240 You might say, okay,

00:34:19.960 well, Clay, how does

00:34:20.620 that contextualize?

00:34:21.700 On average, the S&P 500

00:34:24.460 is going to be up

00:34:25.180 around 9%.

00:34:26.260 On average.

00:34:27.340 Some years you might

00:34:27.960 lose 20, some years

00:34:29.000 you may make 20, but

00:34:30.720 this year is a very

00:34:32.260 good year so far for

00:34:33.840 stocks, and we are at

00:34:35.520 record highs.

00:34:36.820 So, I understand

00:34:39.060 also, those of you

00:34:39.960 out there who say,

00:34:40.600 Clay, man, you don't

00:34:41.360 know what you're

00:34:41.700 talking about.

00:34:42.260 The economy's not as

00:34:43.140 good on the ground as

00:34:43.980 you're saying.

00:34:44.280 I get it.

00:34:45.680 And I think a lot of

00:34:46.620 that is still working

00:34:47.780 through the disaster

00:34:49.260 that was the Biden

00:34:50.340 economy.

00:34:51.280 In general, the stock

00:34:53.340 market runs 6 or 12

00:34:55.200 months in advance of the

00:34:56.640 economic conditions you

00:34:57.920 see on the ground.

00:34:59.180 And so all of this is

00:35:00.500 very positive.

00:35:01.360 Trump is trying to make

00:35:02.500 the economic conditions

00:35:03.720 better for all of us on

00:35:05.360 the ground.

00:35:06.300 And right now, he's in

00:35:07.380 Asia.

00:35:08.080 He is meeting with

00:35:09.020 Japan.

00:35:10.040 I saw this morning that

00:35:11.500 he had a great reception

00:35:12.860 in Japan.

00:35:13.880 He is scheduled to be in

00:35:14.860 South Korea.

00:35:15.500 Buck, I don't know if

00:35:15.980 you saw this, some

00:35:17.300 whispers that he might

00:35:19.400 meet Kim Jong-un again.

00:35:21.580 Remember how quickly the

00:35:23.160 meeting with North Korea's

00:35:24.660 reclusive dictator

00:35:25.820 happened in the past.

00:35:28.100 He's going to be in

00:35:28.900 South Korea, Trump is.

00:35:30.400 He's going to be meeting

00:35:31.620 with Chinese Premier Xi.

00:35:33.680 So there is some

00:35:35.120 possibility, maybe there'll

00:35:36.420 be additional aspects of

00:35:37.680 that.

00:35:37.900 As part of his travel, on

00:35:40.340 Air Force One, Trump has

00:35:42.120 been answering questions

00:35:44.080 quite a lot.

00:35:45.420 And among those questions,

00:35:47.360 let's play a couple of

00:35:48.160 these cuts because I

00:35:48.920 thought they were

00:35:49.440 entertaining and I want

00:35:50.340 to make sure that we

00:35:51.880 keep you updated with

00:35:52.840 what the president is

00:35:53.940 saying, even as we are

00:35:55.420 following the New York

00:35:56.800 City's mayor race.

00:35:58.060 Tomorrow, we will have

00:35:59.080 Curtis Sliwa on the

00:36:00.300 program.

00:36:00.820 And even as we are

00:36:02.280 following what's going

00:36:03.160 on in New Jersey and

00:36:04.360 Virginia, one week from

00:36:06.100 today is the 2025

00:36:08.320 elections, also coming

00:36:09.600 up on the one-year

00:36:10.360 anniversary of Trump's

00:36:11.640 record win in 2024.

00:36:14.260 But Trump yesterday on

00:36:15.900 Air Force One was asked

00:36:17.800 about would he be running

00:36:19.340 in 2028, this obsession.

00:36:21.920 Here is Cut 21.

00:36:23.540 We have great people.

00:36:24.640 I don't have to get into

00:36:25.680 that, but we have one of

00:36:26.740 them standing right here.

00:36:27.880 We have J.D., obviously,

00:36:30.620 the vice president is

00:36:31.680 great.

00:36:32.720 I think Marco is great.

00:36:33.840 I think I'm not sure if

00:36:35.440 anybody would run against

00:36:36.520 us.

00:36:37.460 I think if they have a

00:36:38.520 formed a group, it would

00:36:39.400 be unstoppable.

00:36:41.480 I really do.

00:36:42.040 I believe that.

00:36:43.100 I would love to do it.

00:36:45.860 I have my best numbers

00:36:46.920 ever.

00:36:47.300 It's very terrible.

00:36:48.140 I have my best numbers

00:36:49.020 ever.

00:36:49.940 If you read it, am I not

00:36:53.580 really going to have it?

00:36:54.480 You'll have to tell me.

00:36:55.480 Okay, so Trump talking

00:36:58.080 again, the obsession,

00:36:59.500 Trump 2028.

00:37:00.640 I'm going to be honest

00:37:01.120 with you, Buck.

00:37:02.120 I wish he could run

00:37:02.800 again.

00:37:03.720 I mean, I know he's 79,

00:37:05.420 but he's not going to run.

00:37:07.480 I wish he could.

00:37:09.080 I do think the idea of a

00:37:11.760 J.D.

00:37:12.300 Marco ticket unity from

00:37:14.920 the start is starting to

00:37:17.260 get some momentum.

00:37:18.520 Do you buy the idea that

00:37:19.940 that duo, Marco Rubio

00:37:21.940 obviously has 768 different

00:37:24.360 jobs inside of the Trump

00:37:25.600 administration right now,

00:37:26.860 primarily Secretary of

00:37:28.040 State, J.D.

00:37:29.220 Vance VP.

00:37:30.420 Do you buy the idea that

00:37:31.840 those guys might just say,

00:37:33.260 hey, let's keep the band

00:37:34.220 together and have a unity

00:37:35.720 ticket and we might not

00:37:37.120 even see that much drama

00:37:38.660 in 2028 that Trump might

00:37:42.000 just say, hey, these are

00:37:42.800 my guys.

00:37:43.360 I'm not going to run.

00:37:44.160 I'm 83 years old, but they

00:37:45.620 have my complete and total

00:37:46.820 endorsement.

00:37:48.280 I could see a world where

00:37:50.080 people just say, yeah, you

00:37:51.380 know, I like this team.

00:37:52.300 I like how things are

00:37:53.200 going.

00:37:54.000 You buy this?

00:37:54.980 I mean, because I'm

00:37:55.600 starting to think it's more

00:37:56.440 and more of a possibility

00:37:57.400 that they just say, hey,

00:37:58.440 we're a unity ticket.

00:37:59.500 We're Trump 3 2.0 3.0,

00:38:01.880 however you want to say

00:38:02.700 it.

00:38:03.400 And let's not have all the

00:38:05.000 drama of this huge fight.

00:38:06.660 Let's just keep things

00:38:07.400 rolling.

00:38:08.100 What do you think?

00:38:09.860 Is it too clean?

00:38:11.440 It all sounds great and it

00:38:13.800 would be phenomenal in so

00:38:15.460 many ways.

00:38:17.000 A lot could happen in two

00:38:19.460 and a half years, my

00:38:20.280 friend.

00:38:20.620 You know, this is this is

00:38:21.980 the thing.

00:38:23.280 This is the way we think

00:38:25.020 the story should go.

00:38:27.340 And that to me means it's

00:38:29.420 unlikely that that is the

00:38:30.720 way the story will play

00:38:31.860 out.

00:38:32.760 That's how I view this.

00:38:34.280 Yes, it should go this

00:38:35.360 way.

00:38:35.960 There is a pathway.

00:38:37.780 But remember, I was I was

00:38:40.080 doing shows, Clay, in

00:38:40.960 2019.

00:38:42.900 You know, I was doing doing

00:38:43.980 the solo buck shows in

00:38:45.000 2019.

00:38:45.420 I was saying, guys, the

00:38:47.100 country, things are great.

00:38:48.720 Enjoy it. 1.00

00:38:49.260 Trump's kicking ass. 0.99

00:38:50.380 Economy's phenomenal. 0.99

00:38:51.440 We're at peace.

00:38:52.160 You know, things are

00:38:52.600 great.

00:38:53.160 And then a few months

00:38:55.100 later, you're doing

00:38:55.900 tick tock video dances by

00:38:57.680 yourself in your apartment

00:38:58.720 in New York City.

00:38:59.720 We don't have we don't have

00:39:00.900 to go back to that trauma

00:39:02.200 every time.

00:39:03.060 You know, it was very

00:39:03.860 difficult.

00:39:04.180 I still want to see the

00:39:05.360 tick tock dance.

00:39:06.480 My hair was getting

00:39:07.480 longer and my waist was

00:39:08.780 getting bigger every day of

00:39:10.100 the covid pandemic.

00:39:10.980 And I'm doing these tick

00:39:12.000 tock dances alone in my

00:39:13.220 tiny apartment in New

00:39:14.260 York, surrounded by 1.00

00:39:15.000 lunatics who don't think 0.99

00:39:15.940 you can go outside.

00:39:17.320 I would have I mean

00:39:19.260 this.

00:39:19.720 I walked into your

00:39:20.720 apartment.

00:39:21.260 The first thing I said

00:39:22.020 was I was like, I would

00:39:23.520 have gone insane. 0.56

00:39:25.080 You know, we didn't

00:39:25.820 really do covid here in

00:39:27.220 Franklin, Tennessee.

00:39:29.200 Just basically like March

00:39:30.700 and April and maybe a

00:39:31.840 little bit of May.

00:39:32.940 People were like, you

00:39:34.260 know, a little bit.

00:39:35.260 And then it was kind of

00:39:36.120 over.

00:39:36.640 And then every time I see

00:39:38.440 people, you some of you

00:39:40.380 guys still have a lot of

00:39:41.200 post-traumatic stress.

00:39:42.260 You L.A., you New York,

00:39:44.120 Chicago residents who

00:39:45.820 really had to go through

00:39:47.160 the chaos and the

00:39:48.280 insanity.

00:39:49.540 You L.A.

00:39:50.200 people, most a lot of

00:39:51.200 them had yards.

00:39:53.300 More so.

00:39:54.180 Weather more so.

00:39:55.020 But I mean, Gavin

00:39:55.620 Newsom was arresting

00:39:56.620 paddleboarders.

00:39:57.820 I mean, that's true.

00:39:58.860 I mean, this was a

00:39:59.700 wouldn't even let them

00:40:00.280 walk on the I'm just

00:40:01.220 saying New York turned

00:40:02.560 into a prison camp with

00:40:04.480 masking.

00:40:05.040 It was insane.

00:40:05.620 The only reason to live

00:40:07.180 in New York City is to

00:40:08.440 be able to experience the

00:40:10.180 city.

00:40:10.800 Anybody who has ever had

00:40:12.220 to be cloistered in tiny

00:40:13.560 little apartments that I

00:40:16.040 do think New York had it

00:40:17.160 the worst of everybody.

00:40:18.000 I would have lost my

00:40:18.860 mind.

00:40:19.240 I certainly wouldn't have

00:40:20.060 been able to stay.

00:40:21.360 Trump being Trump, by the

00:40:22.600 way, in addition to

00:40:24.080 saying, hey, J.D. and

00:40:25.360 Marco could be an

00:40:26.160 incredible team.

00:40:27.000 He also decided to tee

00:40:28.440 off on Jasmine Crockett

00:40:30.080 and he challenged them to

00:40:31.580 a cognitive test.

00:40:33.080 AOC.

00:40:33.500 We're going to talk about

00:40:34.340 AOC coming after our

00:40:35.520 friend Riley Gaines here

00:40:36.500 in a moment.

00:40:37.380 But Trump also challenged

00:40:39.000 AOC and Jasmine Crockett

00:40:40.640 to a cognitive test.

00:40:41.820 And you'll want to hear

00:40:43.100 this.

00:40:43.420 Cut 22.

00:40:43.800 All I can tell you is

00:40:44.740 that we have a great

00:40:45.540 group of people, which

00:40:46.420 they don't.

00:40:47.720 They have Jasmine Crockett,

00:40:49.160 a low IQ person.

00:40:50.460 They have AOC's low IQ.

00:40:53.780 You give her an IQ test.

00:40:56.100 Have her pass the exams

00:40:58.620 that I decided to take

00:40:59.980 when I was at Walter Reed.

00:41:01.640 I took those very hard.

00:41:04.640 They're really aptitude

00:41:05.600 tests, I guess, in a

00:41:06.700 certain way.

00:41:07.240 But they're cognitive tests.

00:41:09.140 Let AOC go against Trump.

00:41:11.100 Let Jasmine go against 1.00

00:41:13.300 Trump.

00:41:13.580 I don't think

00:41:14.040 Jasmine, the first

00:41:15.720 couple of questions are

00:41:16.720 easy, a tiger, an elephant,

00:41:18.240 a giraffe, you know.

00:41:19.780 When you get up to about

00:41:20.980 five or six, and then

00:41:22.040 when you get up to 10

00:41:23.040 and 20 and 25, they

00:41:25.360 couldn't come close to

00:41:26.580 answering any of those

00:41:27.760 questions.

00:41:28.940 I mean, he is just so good.

00:41:30.740 You know what's really

00:41:31.840 unfair is if Trump

00:41:34.280 doesn't run again, and I

00:41:36.000 think that he does just

00:41:36.840 like to say that he's

00:41:37.500 going to run again because

00:41:38.120 it upsets the libs so

00:41:39.020 much.

00:41:39.340 But if he doesn't run

00:41:40.480 again, Clay, our jobs

00:41:42.020 will never be as

00:41:43.680 entertaining as they have

00:41:44.960 been in the Trump era

00:41:46.700 because he makes

00:41:48.160 you guys even remember

00:41:50.240 what it was like back in

00:41:51.540 in the days when, oh,

00:41:53.120 everything Obama said was

00:41:54.460 genius and perfect.

00:41:55.440 It was boring and 0.97

00:41:56.500 generally useless and 0.78

00:41:57.660 often lies and wrong in 0.98

00:41:59.240 the Bush era.

00:42:00.560 Whatever.

00:42:01.420 You know, people just said

00:42:02.260 stuff, you know, Clinton

00:42:03.560 and Clinton stuff got a

00:42:04.660 little spicy toward the

00:42:05.540 end, as we know.

00:42:06.060 But in general, we did

00:42:08.540 not have a president who

00:42:09.840 just says hilarious things

00:42:11.080 all the time.

00:42:11.820 Can we play the end of

00:42:12.800 that clip?

00:42:13.480 I mean, the part where I

00:42:15.420 mean, it's not scripted,

00:42:16.800 right, where he just

00:42:18.040 talks about I presume that

00:42:19.840 they're showing you

00:42:20.620 pictures of animals as a

00:42:22.020 part of the cognition

00:42:22.760 test.

00:42:23.280 but just can we play like

00:42:25.220 the last 10 seconds of

00:42:26.440 that again because I

00:42:28.640 mean that his comedic

00:42:29.960 timing and the fact that

00:42:31.120 people don't get his

00:42:32.920 sense of humor.

00:42:34.680 I really I feel like so

00:42:36.820 many people who have

00:42:37.680 Trump derangement

00:42:38.740 syndrome really what they 0.78

00:42:40.640 have is an inability to

00:42:42.240 process tone and context

00:42:44.500 because I mean, how could

00:42:46.540 you not laugh at this at

00:42:48.040 the end of this answer?

00:42:51.420 Maybe we don't have the

00:42:52.480 ability to pull it out.

00:42:54.720 They're really aptitude

00:42:55.800 tests, I guess, in a

00:42:56.900 certain way, but they're

00:42:57.800 cognitive tests.

00:42:59.340 Let AOC go against

00:43:00.980 Trump.

00:43:01.960 Let Jasmine go against 1.00

00:43:03.520 Trump.

00:43:03.860 I don't think Jasmine, the

00:43:05.700 first couple of questions

00:43:06.720 are easy, a tiger, an

00:43:07.960 elephant, a giraffe, you 1.00

00:43:09.200 know.

00:43:10.160 When you get up to about

00:43:11.200 five or six and then when

00:43:12.380 you get up to 10 and 20

00:43:13.780 and 25, they couldn't come

00:43:16.200 close to answering any of

00:43:17.760 those questions.

00:43:19.140 All right.

00:43:19.800 So Jasmine Crockett has 0.69

00:43:21.100 fired back, Buck.

00:43:22.480 Jasmine Crockett says, I

00:43:24.680 got into college on my

00:43:26.160 own.

00:43:26.940 Trump didn't.

00:43:27.960 This is Jasmine Crockett

00:43:29.460 responding to Trump saying

00:43:30.980 she has a low IQ.

00:43:32.920 Cut 23.

00:43:34.940 I'm waiting on a reporter

00:43:36.360 and maybe it'll be you,

00:43:37.420 Caitlin, that finally ask

00:43:38.860 him what is his IQ?

00:43:40.100 Because he is constantly

00:43:41.080 talking about he doesn't

00:43:41.920 even know what a low IQ

00:43:42.860 is.

00:43:43.280 He don't even know which

00:43:44.220 scores are low.

00:43:45.460 And I can guarantee you

00:43:46.560 that whatever score, if

00:43:47.940 he's taken one anytime

00:43:49.560 recently, I'm sure that his

00:43:51.560 disqualifies as low.

00:43:52.560 Listen, he's never been

00:43:53.580 known to be an Einstein.

00:43:54.900 This is not a guy who got

00:43:56.740 in on merit when it came

00:43:58.780 to going to college.

00:43:59.700 This is someone who, but

00:44:01.320 for him being born with a

00:44:02.540 silver spoon, probably

00:44:03.300 wouldn't have got into

00:44:03.880 anybody's institution

00:44:05.200 unlike me.

00:44:06.480 So, you know, I am not

00:44:08.000 worried about that.

00:44:08.800 And I wish people would

00:44:10.000 look at the fact that you

00:44:11.300 have a president of the

00:44:12.120 United States who

00:44:13.040 consistently is obsessing

00:44:15.300 over two women of color 0.63

00:44:17.080 that are members of the

00:44:18.060 House.

00:44:18.520 OK, so the whole women 0.98

00:44:20.980 of color thing is

00:44:23.000 Jasmine Crockett, in your

00:44:24.300 opinion, an elite

00:44:25.680 intellect buck.

00:44:26.820 I'll answer first.

00:44:28.020 No.

00:44:28.920 And it's not just

00:44:29.740 Jasmine Crockett.

00:44:30.900 I'm disappointed.

00:44:32.220 I bet you are on some

00:44:33.260 level, too.

00:44:34.460 You know who's really

00:44:35.100 disappointed by it is

00:44:36.180 Laura Travis, my wife.

00:44:38.040 There are a lot of people

00:44:39.840 who represent us in

00:44:41.240 Congress and in the

00:44:42.480 Senate that are not

00:44:43.980 high intellect.

00:44:45.020 That's not ideal.

00:44:45.920 They're also not great

00:44:47.520 communicators.

00:44:48.320 That is really not ideal.

00:44:49.940 Like we are not

00:44:50.840 represented in general

00:44:52.700 Republicans, Democrats,

00:44:53.940 independents by the most

00:44:55.400 accomplished and

00:44:56.600 intellectually sound and

00:44:59.120 great communicators out

00:45:00.960 there.

00:45:01.320 I think one thing that

00:45:02.380 Trump diagnosed in

00:45:03.640 politics was that he

00:45:05.640 could have the success

00:45:06.980 he had with no

00:45:08.000 background in politics

00:45:09.360 because there are a lot

00:45:11.440 of lightweights that he

00:45:12.540 is knocking out and

00:45:13.880 pushing around candidly

00:45:15.120 when it comes to

00:45:15.820 arguments and it comes

00:45:16.840 to the political

00:45:17.380 direction of the

00:45:18.060 country.

00:45:19.480 All true.

00:45:20.820 And this is why we

00:45:23.380 continue to hope for

00:45:25.360 reform of our

00:45:27.460 government system.

00:45:28.240 Yet we have people who 0.98

00:45:29.720 are so often buffoons 0.98

00:45:31.100 representing us. 0.98

00:45:32.600 Yes.

00:45:32.980 Government system.

00:45:33.720 So there's a problem

00:45:35.220 there.

00:45:35.980 It's a bit like how we

00:45:36.980 all want to tackle the

00:45:37.660 debt, but we don't want

00:45:38.300 any of the good spending

00:45:38.980 to stop.

00:45:39.620 Talk more about this.

00:45:41.160 But look, AI is being

00:45:43.060 used in our everyday

00:45:43.720 lives more and more, and

00:45:45.660 it's only going to get

00:45:46.260 bigger.

00:45:46.980 I've read and reread the

00:45:48.100 White House's plans for

00:45:49.180 artificial intelligence.

00:45:50.020 It's a huge priority for

00:45:51.480 President Trump and his

00:45:52.660 administration.

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00:47:26.740 Clay Travis, Buck Sexton

00:47:28.280 Show.

00:47:29.000 We are excited to be joined

00:47:31.400 by our friend, Riley

00:47:32.760 Gaines.

00:47:33.380 I don't think you've been on

00:47:34.620 since you officially became

00:47:36.180 a mom.

00:47:36.900 So, let's start there before

00:47:38.040 we get into you versus AOC.

00:47:41.560 What has, we have a lot of

00:47:43.500 moms out there and dads. 0.51

00:47:45.100 Buck is a recent new dad, as

00:47:46.780 you know.

00:47:47.640 What has most surprised you

00:47:49.660 about being a mom that maybe

00:47:51.400 you didn't anticipate?

00:47:52.980 How has it gone so far?

00:47:54.760 Do you have any advice for

00:47:56.320 maybe expectant moms that 1.00

00:47:58.140 might be out there listening

00:47:59.120 that have not had baby one

00:48:00.860 yet based on your experience?

00:48:02.580 Ann, congratulations.

00:48:05.920 Well, thank you.

00:48:06.820 And congratulations to Buck,

00:48:08.120 too.

00:48:08.840 Look, I will say the thing that

00:48:09.920 has surprised me most is

00:48:12.340 honestly, and look, I know my

00:48:15.640 experience is, you know, one

00:48:17.480 thing and it is very different

00:48:18.820 than other women. 0.88

00:48:20.060 But honestly, how easy it is.

00:48:22.040 I think, especially as women,

00:48:24.040 especially as younger women, you 1.00

00:48:25.020 get wrapped up in all the horror

00:48:26.300 stories.

00:48:27.320 I heard them all during pregnancy.

00:48:29.420 Everyone told me, you know, well,

00:48:30.300 you just wait and I kept waiting

00:48:32.200 and waiting and none of the bad

00:48:33.360 things that all of the women

00:48:34.580 said were going to happen 0.65

00:48:35.420 happened to me.

00:48:36.080 I had a fantastic pregnancy and

00:48:37.340 then it was, OK, well, you just

00:48:38.360 wait until delivery and

00:48:40.480 delivery came.

00:48:42.000 She was born and the process

00:48:43.360 was a breeze.

00:48:45.160 And then it was, OK, well, you

00:48:46.080 just bank up on your sleep now

00:48:47.280 because you're not going to get

00:48:48.040 any sleep when she's here.

00:48:49.120 And let me tell you, I've slept

00:48:50.460 like a dream.

00:48:51.020 She's been just the best baby.

00:48:52.600 And so I think the message that

00:48:54.420 I want to send is that there are

00:48:56.200 good stories out there, too.

00:48:57.640 So it has been just the most

00:49:00.340 magical past four weeks.

00:49:02.380 She'll be a month tomorrow, which

00:49:03.800 is insane.

00:49:04.600 It's gone so quick.

00:49:06.120 Isn't it the best, Riley?

00:49:07.340 The first one is my first one,

00:49:08.820 too.

00:49:09.080 It's been so much fun.

00:49:10.060 And honestly, I share a lot of

00:49:11.940 your sentiment because people

00:49:12.980 and I know a lot of it was

00:49:14.940 well-intentioned, but there's

00:49:16.740 this, you know, oh,

00:49:17.960 congratulations to the baby.

00:49:19.220 You're never going to sleep

00:49:20.120 again and your life is going to

00:49:21.200 be so hard.

00:49:22.300 That wasn't even true for us.

00:49:23.880 The baby was about was hit the

00:49:25.860 five month sleep regression.

00:49:27.060 And we've actually since worked

00:49:28.500 with the baby and now sleeping

00:49:29.620 great again.

00:49:30.560 But our baby slept like a baby.

00:49:33.060 It was fine.

00:49:34.180 And it's been amazing.

00:49:35.000 And I just want more of them.

00:49:36.400 I don't know.

00:49:36.940 I just feel like there's a

00:49:38.620 little bit of a strange, even

00:49:40.380 on the right, a strange

00:49:41.960 cultural like batten down the 0.99

00:49:43.500 hatches thing where everything 0.98

00:49:45.300 me.

00:49:45.540 You were you were a super high

00:49:46.780 level swimmer.

00:49:47.640 I'm sure you had to get up at

00:49:48.860 five o'clock in the morning a

00:49:50.020 lot and spend a lot of time in

00:49:51.460 the pool.

00:49:52.080 And that's not always fun or what

00:49:53.600 you want to do, but it's

00:49:54.740 really worthwhile.

00:49:57.000 That's it.

00:49:57.760 And that's the exact same with

00:49:59.220 with motherhood.

00:50:01.020 I think there's an attempt to

00:50:03.280 again, especially when we're

00:50:04.660 talking about younger women, to

00:50:06.340 to scare them out of it,

00:50:07.840 honestly.

00:50:09.320 And I think you guys both know

00:50:11.380 we live in this.

00:50:12.260 What about ism culture where you 0.99

00:50:13.780 share these stories and you

00:50:14.800 almost feel shameful for doing

00:50:16.640 it because you'll have someone

00:50:17.700 else who will say, well, what

00:50:18.760 about my experience or what

00:50:20.460 about this?

00:50:21.200 And, you know, they want us to

00:50:23.140 feel shameful for having these

00:50:24.360 great experiences.

00:50:24.960 But I'm just here to say

00:50:26.120 hasn't been that that way with

00:50:28.460 us.

00:50:28.660 We've had a fantastic

00:50:29.900 experience.

00:50:30.860 I just want to say, Riley, I've

00:50:32.300 I've had people yell at me

00:50:33.600 before because I just shared

00:50:35.640 the positive experience that

00:50:36.980 I've had of making walking a

00:50:38.760 part of my daily routine.

00:50:40.440 People get mad at me.

00:50:41.480 Like, of course, you think

00:50:42.620 walking is, you know, Mr.

00:50:44.280 like radio.

00:50:45.260 I thought walking.

00:50:46.380 I mean, unless you have some

00:50:47.200 real problem, like that's

00:50:48.280 something we could all enjoy

00:50:49.360 and share.

00:50:49.800 But I just want to tell you,

00:50:51.160 even when you give people the

00:50:52.760 most solid and positive and

00:50:54.960 kind hearted advice, there will

00:50:56.440 be people who are angry at

00:50:57.620 you.

00:50:59.340 100%.

00:50:59.740 Yeah.

00:51:01.080 Walking probably also makes you

00:51:02.640 a racist, too.

00:51:03.560 So it is funny that you would

00:51:06.120 say, of course, now, yeah, you

00:51:08.500 got to give reparate that you

00:51:10.260 would say that anybody would

00:51:11.540 say, hey, maybe you should just

00:51:12.780 walk a little bit more.

00:51:13.780 And the response is, well,

00:51:15.000 you're elitist.

00:51:15.740 Like, I think walking something

00:51:17.440 that most of us share.

00:51:18.220 All right.

00:51:19.240 So you texted me yesterday

00:51:21.120 and it reminded me of you

00:51:23.560 texting me when Simone Biles

00:51:25.100 came after you.

00:51:26.660 So for those who do not know,

00:51:28.300 AOC decided kind of out of

00:51:31.300 nowhere.

00:51:31.740 I mean, you tell us the story,

00:51:33.340 Riley, to just attack you.

00:51:35.700 And I think my immediate

00:51:36.700 response was, this is so great

00:51:38.520 for you, which was the same

00:51:39.600 thing when Simone Biles did it. 1.00

00:51:41.700 And I'm sure you had the same

00:51:42.900 reaction because there are so

00:51:44.500 many fake accounts out there.

00:51:46.120 Like, my initial reaction is,

00:51:48.560 okay, let's make sure it's

00:51:49.620 actually Simone Biles. 0.89

00:51:50.900 Let's make sure it's actually

00:51:52.060 AOC because this is such a

00:51:54.520 ridiculous, bad angle to be

00:51:56.440 attacking someone on that I 0.99

00:51:59.140 can't believe it's real.

00:52:00.520 So tell people who don't know

00:52:02.020 you're sitting around yesterday

00:52:03.320 afternoon and AOC decides kind

00:52:06.240 of out of the blue to come

00:52:07.120 after you.

00:52:08.000 What happened?

00:52:08.660 It's so funny you mentioned

00:52:11.200 that about Simone Biles because 1.00

00:52:12.420 honestly, it's virtually like

00:52:14.500 the exact same realization and

00:52:18.260 actions that I went through when

00:52:19.960 this happened because I'm sitting

00:52:21.060 there now, especially being a new

00:52:23.300 mom, I'm not on my phone all the

00:52:24.440 time, but I see this notification

00:52:25.620 pop up and it says, you know,

00:52:27.300 AOC mentioned you in a comment.

00:52:28.880 I click on it and I read it and it

00:52:30.960 says something to the effect of if

00:52:33.700 you channeled all of your anger

00:52:35.280 towards swimming, maybe you would

00:52:36.580 have been faster or something to

00:52:38.340 the effect.

00:52:39.000 Better than fifth in all of

00:52:42.400 American NCAA swimmers.

00:52:44.900 This is the line of attack she 0.90

00:52:46.320 decided to hit you with.

00:52:48.000 You're only the fifth best at

00:52:50.000 something in the entire United

00:52:52.520 States that doesn't, I'd love to be

00:52:54.760 the fifth best at anything, by the

00:52:56.160 way.

00:52:56.620 But yes, that's what she decided to

00:52:58.280 attack you with.

00:53:00.100 It is so true. 0.88

00:53:01.280 Like it proves this line of defense

00:53:04.000 or these arguments that they're

00:53:05.400 using, it proves that they know

00:53:07.080 nothing about sports.

00:53:08.080 And honestly, it's pretty utterly

00:53:10.560 misogynistic because, I mean, you

00:53:12.200 think about it, Clay, would she

00:53:13.640 call the fifth best college

00:53:16.200 football player in the nation

00:53:17.820 mediocre or bad at his sport or

00:53:20.940 whatever, or the fifth best college

00:53:22.840 basketball player?

00:53:23.700 No way she wouldn't say that.

00:53:25.220 But because it's, number one, I

00:53:26.540 think women's sports, which is 1.00

00:53:27.620 hilarious because they claim to

00:53:29.540 care about and watch women's

00:53:30.920 sports.

00:53:31.580 And two, I think a less mainstream

00:53:33.760 sport like swimming, of course,

00:53:35.260 this is more of a niche sport.

00:53:36.780 It's, if you're not the best, if

00:53:38.260 you're not on the Olympic team, if

00:53:39.640 you're not getting gold medals at

00:53:42.320 the Olympics, then you're actually

00:53:43.660 just not good at your sport.

00:53:45.400 And that was AOC's line of defense.

00:53:47.360 So, or her argument that she went

00:53:50.340 with it there.

00:53:51.000 And so, um, can I just put, you

00:53:53.760 can have this six foot, go ahead.

00:53:56.040 No, no, no, you go ahead.

00:53:56.940 I didn't, I didn't want to interrupt

00:53:57.900 you, Riley.

00:53:58.380 Go ahead.

00:53:59.820 No, I, my, I think the point is you

00:54:02.920 have two sides of this argument.

00:54:04.940 One side is to be with and standing

00:54:07.520 for women who merely want fair 1.00

00:54:09.540 competition, safety in their sports

00:54:11.280 and privacy in areas of undressing.

00:54:12.900 And the other side is the side of the

00:54:15.540 six foot four man who was 462nd the

00:54:19.780 year prior when competing against the

00:54:21.140 men and who flashes women in the

00:54:22.720 locker room and AOC made the side

00:54:24.900 that she chose very clear.

00:54:28.160 Now I have to ask you Riley, because

00:54:31.780 you understand how competitive sports

00:54:34.640 are and you're somebody who knows the

00:54:36.880 work that has to go into it and, and

00:54:38.620 just the, the realities of the sports

00:54:41.580 world.

00:54:42.640 We haven't really gotten to know each

00:54:44.800 other that well, but there's a

00:54:46.380 controversy out there about whether or

00:54:48.180 not, as a recreational middle-aged

00:54:50.920 tennis player, I will be able to get

00:54:52.580 a hundred mile an hour serve on camera

00:54:54.700 as evidenced by a speed gun.

00:54:57.780 Now I got to be, let me interrupt him

00:55:00.040 here.

00:55:00.780 This has been several months where he

00:55:03.180 hasn't in good weather.

00:55:04.600 I'm just going to point out where there

00:55:06.200 hasn't been a test going on Riley, just

00:55:09.180 for your ability and error.

00:55:11.020 Riley, just so you understand, we

00:55:12.420 already have a 97 on the record.

00:55:15.120 Okay.

00:55:15.300 97 miles an hour, but Clay and some of

00:55:17.560 the doubters in this audience think

00:55:19.660 that I will not be able to with a

00:55:21.280 little more, uh, limber shoulder and a

00:55:24.600 little, little more, you know, uh, of

00:55:26.560 the old Riley during the show commercial

00:55:29.100 break, he has a rubber band that he is

00:55:32.220 stretching out his shoulder with.

00:55:34.180 Clay, that was for the trust tree.

00:55:35.820 That's not for Eric on the radio.

00:55:37.540 Anyway, there's got to be a clip of

00:55:39.780 this go ahead.

00:55:43.260 Do you think, do you think what side of

00:55:45.220 this bet I have till the end of the

00:55:46.560 year?

00:55:46.840 I'll decide that much I have till the

00:55:48.440 end of the year, which now takes me

00:55:49.800 through, uh, I got about, you know,

00:55:51.060 eight weeks to get this done.

00:55:52.520 Can it be done by yours truly?

00:55:54.640 Yes or no.

00:55:56.720 Honestly, but I think there is a, a more

00:55:59.640 plausible chance of you serving a 100

00:56:02.780 mile per hour serve.

00:56:04.620 Then there is Clay Travis actually

00:56:06.720 swimming Alcatraz.

00:56:08.920 Wow.

00:56:10.040 Look, I'm just sitting here innocent and

00:56:12.540 much like, much like Riley when AOC came

00:56:15.760 after, I'm just a nice, kind, considerate

00:56:17.900 person here.

00:56:18.640 And I just got two by Ford hacksaw Jim

00:56:20.980 Duggan style by Riley here, which I

00:56:23.880 invited Clay in July.

00:56:24.960 You're both invited next July to do this.

00:56:28.180 I think we could, we could make something

00:56:29.520 out of it.

00:56:30.440 Can I doggy paddle the Alcatraz swim or is

00:56:33.280 that just, is that too gauche?

00:56:37.160 Honestly, the worst part is how cold it

00:56:39.320 is.

00:56:40.320 Oh, that's the worst part of all of it.

00:56:42.500 I am both less buoyant and less insulated

00:56:45.160 than I used to be Clay.

00:56:46.380 So that may, that's, that's one of the

00:56:47.700 few times this was not to my advantage.

00:56:49.740 Well, I saw your husband, Louie, um, and

00:56:52.760 he was saying that there are moments where

00:56:55.900 you think about sharks.

00:56:57.040 Did you think this is the part that I'm

00:56:58.800 actually now is in my head.

00:57:00.320 I'm not going to lie.

00:57:01.220 The idea of getting attacked by a shark

00:57:04.720 while trying to do this, you did this

00:57:06.920 pregnant.

00:57:07.780 Did you truly have no fear of sharks at

00:57:10.120 all, Riley, when you got in the water,

00:57:11.720 like didn't even cross your mind or at

00:57:14.960 some point when you're in the depth of

00:57:16.980 the, the, the swim there, did you think,

00:57:19.220 Hey, this is a little bit scary.

00:57:22.900 It's so funny looking back.

00:57:24.500 Cause you're right.

00:57:25.060 I did this at gosh, seven months pregnant

00:57:27.320 and you're, you're kind of in the middle

00:57:28.840 of the ocean and you reach a point where

00:57:31.240 it gets really cold.

00:57:32.740 And I think that indicates of course, that,

00:57:34.700 you know, the water gets deeper.

00:57:36.400 And in those moments, it's a bit unsettling,

00:57:38.260 like, Oh gosh, what is swimming underneath

00:57:39.660 me?

00:57:39.980 But sharks, I'm, I'm, I don't think I'm

00:57:41.580 really scared of sharks.

00:57:43.020 Um, I watched soul surfer growing up.

00:57:46.020 Bethany Hamilton actually is just, I mean,

00:57:47.840 she's a dear friend of mine.

00:57:49.260 Um, but sharks are, are never something

00:57:51.800 that, that really scared me.

00:57:53.220 Louie, he's actually sat right next to me.

00:57:55.480 We're in the car together now. 0.58

00:57:57.060 Uh, he's just a sissy is what it is. 0.99

00:58:01.440 I'm, I'm a sissy with Louie then. 0.99

00:58:03.760 Uh, let me ask you this though, back on

00:58:05.580 the AOC thing, uh, Riley, um, and tell

00:58:08.540 Louie, we said hi too.

00:58:10.040 Um, why do you think she decided to attack

00:58:13.560 you kind of out of nowhere?

00:58:14.700 It's the same question that I had when I

00:58:16.580 saw Simone Biles come after you.

00:58:19.320 It's not an attack that makes her look 0.85

00:58:21.660 better to your point, being, attacking

00:58:24.640 someone for only being the fifth best at

00:58:27.580 something.

00:58:28.680 Again, I would love to be the fifth best

00:58:30.640 at anything.

00:58:31.200 So with everybody out there listening, it's

00:58:33.240 not a good line of attack.

00:58:34.880 Where is this coming from?

00:58:36.440 Is it organized?

00:58:37.700 Do you think somebody is asking her to do

00:58:39.860 it?

00:58:40.080 Was she looking for this opportunity?

00:58:41.680 And then you've offered to debate her and

00:58:44.060 she followed up again.

00:58:45.320 I think you were on with Laura Ingram

00:58:46.660 last night.

00:58:47.540 Where is all of this coming from in your

00:58:49.740 mind?

00:58:51.440 Well, it is interesting because when you

00:58:54.500 compare this to Simone, because Simone and

00:58:56.540 her argument, I mean, you would imagine

00:58:58.640 that an Olympian, the best of the best

00:59:00.820 there, she's like in a total league of 0.99

00:59:02.280 her own.

00:59:02.740 There's no one even close to her.

00:59:04.360 You would imagine she would understand

00:59:05.740 and approach this from an athlete, which

00:59:07.040 of course she didn't, but she didn't

00:59:08.140 necessarily have to be politically

00:59:10.620 competent.

00:59:11.360 And AOC, her position, of course, is 0.66

00:59:14.400 morally bankrupt, but it's just totally 0.99

00:59:15.960 politically ignorant. 0.97

00:59:17.860 Not only is this something that, I mean, 0.99

00:59:19.560 99, 100 percent of the Republican Party

00:59:22.240 and those who voted for Donald Trump, the

00:59:24.480 77 million people who voted for Donald

00:59:26.480 Trump agree with that mention me in women's 0.93

00:59:28.960 sports.

00:59:29.620 But it's what?

00:59:30.400 Like, I would say 80 percent of the

00:59:33.220 Democratic Party.

00:59:34.100 I think the number in the Gallup polls has

00:59:36.680 been somewhere between 60, 70.

00:59:38.140 I think it's more than that, of their own

00:59:40.240 party that don't agree with them.

00:59:41.960 And so why is she doing this? 0.96

00:59:43.520 I think it's something that's successful

00:59:44.940 on social media platforms where you can

00:59:48.000 kind of acquire that cesspool of radical 0.92

00:59:50.220 insane lunatics, which those exist on 0.97

00:59:53.860 X. 0.81

00:59:54.100 I mean, I think her her initial post got

00:59:55.840 what, like 45 million views.

00:59:58.660 So you can imagine the past 24 hours what

01:00:02.220 my messages on all platforms look like when

01:00:05.140 you're having to field 45 million AOC cronies 0.84

01:00:10.000 who just follow her page and listen to what

01:00:11.980 she says.

01:00:13.600 But I don't know.

01:00:14.840 It's not politically expedient at all.

01:00:18.200 And I think that the terrifying point here is

01:00:20.680 that this is the leader of their party.

01:00:23.400 People like Crockett and AOC and Mom Donnie,

01:00:27.420 that that's who all other Democrats at all

01:00:29.660 levels, by the way, that's who they look to.

01:00:32.340 Try to find me a moderate Democrat.

01:00:33.840 Clay, I think you tweeted it a few weeks ago

01:00:35.780 talking about how Fetterman was the most

01:00:38.920 sane Democrat.

01:00:39.960 And it's there's not even a close second.

01:00:42.800 Like, like try and try and think of a

01:00:44.800 moderate Democrat at any level.

01:00:47.640 I mean, there just isn't one.

01:00:49.540 So this is their this is their party's leader.

01:00:51.940 This is what I guess they believe will work.

01:00:54.900 But we will continue to see them lose in

01:00:57.480 2026 and 2028.

01:00:59.000 And further on, if they continue with, I

01:01:03.000 mean, supporting the policies, the harmful

01:01:05.740 policies that they support.

01:01:09.160 Thank you so much, Riley, for being here.

01:01:10.860 And congrats again to you and Louie.

01:01:13.540 Yep.

01:01:14.600 Well, thank you, guys.

01:01:15.820 I want to see a video of Buck in this

01:01:17.860 commercial break.

01:01:18.500 Oh, this serve, this serve is going to

01:01:20.560 happen, everybody.

01:01:21.320 It's going to happen.

01:01:22.180 I wish you could see him with the rubber

01:01:24.100 band trying to loosen up the right shoulder

01:01:26.060 during the commercial breaks.

01:01:27.640 I mean, that was in the trust.

01:01:28.560 That was in the trust tree.

01:01:29.920 That was in the trust tree.

01:01:31.260 And Clay is now violating trust tree.

01:01:33.060 OK, that's enough of that.

01:01:34.280 But yes, Riley, I am trying to limber up

01:01:36.040 this old man's shoulder just a little bit

01:01:38.140 like the backstroke only for the tennis

01:01:40.780 court.

01:01:41.280 Thank you for being here, Riley.

01:01:42.360 Well, thank you, guys.

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