Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 31 2025

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00:00:41.260 Welcome, everybody, to the Friday Halloween edition

00:00:46.180 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

00:00:49.880 Clay traveling today, perhaps picking up a last-minute costume,

00:00:55.140 take guesses as to what he'll dress up as this year, if he does at all.

00:00:59.440 But he'll be back with us on Monday, so it is just me,

00:01:03.620 a.k.a. the Buckster, leading you on this legendary journey

00:01:10.080 of politics, news, national security, cultural commentary,

00:01:15.240 all the great stuff that we're going to dive into.

00:01:17.460 Let's just give you a sense of where we're going.

00:01:20.560 We have Election Day on Tuesday coming up.

00:01:24.320 In fact, I just voted.

00:01:26.540 I meant to have the little sticker in my hand.

00:01:29.060 I just voted for the Miami Beach mayor,

00:01:33.340 as you know from listening to the show.

00:01:35.020 I'm a Miami Beach resident.

00:01:37.160 And governance here has been quite good.

00:01:40.160 They have done things that have made the streets cleaner and safer and better.

00:01:43.940 And I am very pleased with a lot of the major decisions that have been made.

00:01:49.420 So I was a vote for Mayor Minor, and I am hoping that he is able to continue.

00:01:57.480 But I'm just saying I voted.

00:01:59.420 I know it's an off-year election, but that makes it so much easier, too.

00:02:03.000 I'm saying this in part to also perhaps poke, I wouldn't say shame, poke, encourage, remind,

00:02:14.620 gently nudge our wonderful Virginia and New Jersey and New York City listeners

00:02:22.580 to make sure where there's early voting, you're voting early.

00:02:27.640 And if you can't get there early, we'll at least get there on the big day, right?

00:02:33.700 You got to show up to care if you care enough about what's going to happen.

00:02:39.320 And I think that certainly in New Jersey, the latest is that Cittarelli has made this a dead heat.

00:02:47.320 It is neck and neck with Cheryl there. 1.00

00:02:51.660 Virginia is a little bit tougher sledding, a little more challenging. 0.94

00:02:57.240 But still, you got to show up.

00:02:59.480 Jason Mear is looking good for that attorney general slot.

00:03:03.120 And Winsome Sears, let's hope she can pull off a little bit of an upset there. 1.00

00:03:07.840 But she's only going to do it if our Virginia listeners go out and tell all their friends

00:03:11.380 and tell everyone they know, make sure you get out there and vote.

00:03:14.700 And then we have talked a lot about New York City.

00:03:17.580 I'll give you some updates on the New York City mayor's race.

00:03:22.160 But it's not looking so good.

00:03:24.140 It's not looking so good.

00:03:25.200 And also, some of you have been writing in to say that I sounded like I was from New York

00:03:28.820 suddenly when we interviewed Curtis Sliwa.

00:03:32.620 Was I code switching back to New Yorker all of a sudden?

00:03:35.960 I mean, at least it would be authentic insofar as I am from New York City, born and raised.

00:03:40.820 I didn't notice any difference.

00:03:42.380 I'll have to go back and listen to that.

00:03:43.620 I did switch sometimes when I told Clay, but I was switching on purpose to say he better

00:03:50.580 watch out in Benson.

00:03:51.900 You know, he better watch out when he's in Fall Rockaway, Sheepshead Bay, Staten Island,

00:03:57.040 particularly Central Southern Staten Island.

00:04:00.140 You know, I wouldn't say, because he was talking a little bit rough about Curtis Sliwa and that's

00:04:04.680 Sliwa territory.

00:04:06.460 But yeah, you've never heard me do a New York accent before.

00:04:08.880 When I worked at the NYPD, they used to tell me that I talked funny.

00:04:12.340 So there you go.

00:04:13.460 Because they all had New York accents and I did not.

00:04:16.200 So I can do it, though.

00:04:18.020 I can switch in and out.

00:04:19.680 Now, we have those races.

00:04:22.120 I'll give you those details.

00:04:23.100 We also have the shutdown continuing.

00:04:27.380 I think Democrats are going to lose, but they're getting into that desperate mode where the end

00:04:32.920 is nigh for them politically, and they're going to throw anything at the wall and see what sticks.

00:04:39.120 They're going to pull anything out as they can.

00:04:41.740 And then we've got some more Kamala Harris trying to rehab her political chances, her future in 1.00

00:04:49.200 politics, which I do not think is strong and I do not think is, well, as you know, Clay and I disagree

00:04:55.500 on this one.

00:04:55.880 I think she's going to have to just fade, fade out, but she doesn't want to.

00:05:01.100 I will agree with anyone, including Clay, that Kamala Harris thinks she should have a role 0.97

00:05:07.680 in American politics going forward.

00:05:10.080 It's ego driven, though.

00:05:11.560 It's not based in the reality of her chances and the future of the Democrat Party.

00:05:16.680 So, okay, let's first just get a little bit into where we stand on this government shutdown.

00:05:24.960 First of all, I told you this is where things could get really messy pretty fast, and that's

00:05:32.520 when the air traffic controllers and the pilots are saying, look, it's going to be really rough

00:05:39.260 for those who are trying to get around the country trying to fly when air traffic controllers

00:05:44.620 say enough is enough, and some of them are going to start calling in sick, and there's

00:05:49.400 going to be shortages.

00:05:51.000 People will be waiting, and I will agree with you.

00:05:54.160 When you're at the airport and the plane is there and there's not a cloud in the sky and

00:05:58.760 the whole country, the weather is fine, and you're told for staffing reasons, your flight

00:06:05.220 is maybe delayed two or three hours, your flight is canceled perhaps, that is an enormously

00:06:11.600 frustrating experience.

00:06:12.780 Here is a montage of the pilots and air traffic controllers, this is cut 12, telling Democrats,

00:06:19.760 open up the government, enough is enough.

00:06:23.000 The biggest way to ensure the safety, security, and reliability of our national air traffic

00:06:28.420 control system is to pass a clean, continuing resolution.

00:06:32.420 We are concerned that when our brothers and sisters in TSA and air traffic control are not

00:06:36.620 receiving paychecks, that they're distracted, and that they erode on the margin of safety that

00:06:41.160 we rely on to go out and operate our aircraft and do our jobs safely as well.

00:06:45.160 Every day that they go to work, they have not only the weight of one of those high-consequence

00:06:49.600 jobs in the entire world, now they're feeling, how do I pay for my gas, how do I put food

00:06:55.900 on the table?

00:06:56.600 No one should have to work without being paid, Congress owes it to the American people to

00:07:01.400 get this thing done, get a clean CR done, and get the government back open.

00:07:04.840 Everyone knows, the Vice President, Congress, that this shutdown needs to end now.

00:07:10.160 It has to happen now.

00:07:11.980 These guys need to convene, say yes to that clean CR, get this thing back on track, and

00:07:16.360 again, restore that confidence in the American public as we go into these very busy holiday

00:07:20.400 seasons.

00:07:20.800 The White House put that out, and I think it's very well done.

00:07:26.560 It's very straightforward.

00:07:27.820 Republicans, I'm not rooting for the Republicans on this one because I'm a Republican.

00:07:33.900 It is the obvious, sane choice of the two sides here.

00:07:40.100 The Republicans were trying to keep the government funded and going.

00:07:43.760 Democrats are trying to do the impossible.

00:07:47.140 It's not the first time that Democrat policies involve squaring a circle, right?

00:07:52.860 It's not the first time that, like, a man can be a woman, and it's a woman, but it's

00:07:56.020 also a man at the same time.

00:07:57.080 They do this with some frequency.

00:07:59.940 But in this case, they've shut the government down, they made the choice, and they're turning

00:08:05.300 to Republicans and saying, why did you shut the government down?

00:08:08.500 That is not okay.

00:08:11.160 They did this.

00:08:12.200 We are all now working through this because of them, but they are taking some very bad

00:08:19.100 advice slash direction from Chuck Schumer, from Jeffries, and, oh yes, this is cut 11, Kamala

00:08:29.000 Harris herself.

00:08:30.260 Play it.

00:08:30.800 We still have work to do to make America's health care system deliver for all the people

00:08:36.520 and not be a function of how much money you have in your back pocket, right?

00:08:40.680 And Democrats do come from that place of believing that health care should be a right and not

00:08:46.880 just a privilege of those who can afford it.

00:08:48.920 So how do you get there?

00:08:50.240 Well, part of how you get there immediately on this issue of where we are with the shutdown

00:08:53.520 is to hold firm as they are doing.

00:08:56.440 Part of it has to be to continue to reform the system.

00:09:00.840 They don't reform the system.

00:09:05.260 They have done one thing, and that is make health care worse, make it more expensive, 0.56

00:09:11.700 make it more complicated.

00:09:13.880 They have made it worse.

00:09:15.440 That is the only thing you can say about the Democrat head in health care. 0.92

00:09:19.920 Every promise that was made about Obamacare has been broken.

00:09:24.820 Everything about this bill, which was a huge fight with Republicans back in the first term

00:09:31.400 of the Obama administration, everything about it was either just wrong or a lie.

00:09:37.640 And now they're saying, well, if we can't continue subsidies, the subsidies were put in place

00:09:42.760 during COVID.

00:09:43.960 So now we have to continue at that level.

00:09:46.860 There are all these ways.

00:09:48.120 What they're really doing is hiding a massive wealth redistribution scheme and welfare state

00:09:54.340 under the rubric of health care.

00:09:57.780 Trust me, they're not trying to make your health care cheaper.

00:10:01.520 Trust me, they aren't trying to do what would be needed to make it easier for you to see a doctor.

00:10:09.320 That's not what they want to make it so that states like California and New York

00:10:13.600 will continue treating illegals, 30% of ER visits in New York City, illegal aliens.

00:10:19.280 So we're essentially now the soup kitchen and the sick ward for the whole world.

00:10:23.780 Seven billion people and counting.

00:10:26.180 You show up here, you get all this free stuff.

00:10:28.400 And by the way, the people who are actually here who have to work, create the productivity

00:10:33.460 to create the wealth that is then pillaged by these Democrats, in your name, of course,

00:10:39.920 but for their own purposes, yeah, they don't want to make that easier for you.

00:10:44.860 They don't respect that.

00:10:45.600 In fact, if you don't pay them what they demand, and it's never enough,

00:10:49.780 if you don't give them more of what you work to create,

00:10:53.560 they'll use the resources of the state to throw you in prison.

00:10:57.400 But the illegals, the people who are scamming the system, 1.00

00:11:01.060 the people who are entirely reliant on the system,

00:11:03.680 they are the primary constituency of the Democrat Party,

00:11:08.080 which is a party of takers using government force.

00:11:13.360 That is the whole point.

00:11:14.600 That is the whole premise.

00:11:15.700 Everything else to say about health care is a lie.

00:11:20.260 Look at your premiums.

00:11:21.780 It's all gotten more expensive.

00:11:23.180 It's all gotten worse.

00:11:24.400 Yeah, look, John Fetterman,

00:11:26.340 not sure how much longer he's even going to be a Democrat,

00:11:28.500 he's out there saying that, I mean,

00:11:31.120 this is just appalling what Democrats are doing.

00:11:34.900 And he said it in a Fetterman way.

00:11:37.420 This is cut 13.

00:11:38.920 Listen to his take on the government shutdown.

00:11:40.680 For a Democrat, you know, we're not allowed to just open this up.

00:11:45.900 I mean, then our party has bigger problems than I thought we might have already.

00:11:50.260 It's like, that's not controversial.

00:11:51.960 Pay everybody.

00:11:52.860 And you have our workers here borrowed over a third of a billion dollars to pay their own bills.

00:12:03.700 It's a failure.

00:12:05.880 And like I said, to all of the viewers,

00:12:07.800 I'm apologizing that we can't even get our s*** together and just open up our government.

00:12:17.440 Democrats are the ones, Fetterman's voted to keep it open, or to open it rather.

00:12:20.780 Democrats are the ones who have shut it down.

00:12:24.360 They have decided that this is the way it's going to go.

00:12:28.380 And then they turn around and say, why is it happening like this?

00:12:31.320 So I think we're going to see eventually a Democrat cave on this issue.

00:12:38.720 Unless Republicans manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory,

00:12:45.380 that is always possible for Republicans.

00:12:48.720 There's always a chance here.

00:12:50.980 Although I will say, I was pretty heartened by Senator Thune,

00:12:54.760 who is not usually the guy you'd think leading the William Wallace-style Braveheart charge for freedom.

00:13:01.560 But he did seem pretty agitated over what Democrats are doing here.

00:13:05.940 Because remember, they've chosen to do this, but then they're lying about it.

00:13:09.640 Democrats have forced this shutdown by making demands that have nothing to do with specifically funding this government as it is,

00:13:19.420 as it's supposed to be with a CR, with a continuing resolution.

00:13:23.000 They want to hold the government's funding hostage.

00:13:27.020 But then they turn around and say, it is the Republicans who are shutting down the government.

00:13:32.060 That is a lie.

00:13:33.260 And I do think that a majority of the American people, at least those who are paying attention to this, see that.

00:13:39.200 I do believe that the Democrats are losing.

00:13:42.580 And once Election Day passes, come on, New Jersey.

00:13:46.340 Can I just, my New Jerseyans, sometimes us New Yorkers, we give you a rough time.

00:13:53.560 We treat you like the cousin that perhaps gets a wedgie when we see you at the holidays.

00:14:00.080 But we love you, New Jersey.

00:14:01.580 We really do.

00:14:02.940 From a New Yorker to my New Jerseyans out there, get out there and vote.

00:14:06.340 You can have a good governor who's going to end the sanctuary state status of New Jersey,

00:14:13.320 who's going to bring down the absurd taxes that you pay.

00:14:18.180 There's so much that will benefit you.

00:14:21.580 Get out there and actually do this.

00:14:23.340 Get out there and vote.

00:14:24.140 And for those who say, I already have, okay, well, tell other people.

00:14:27.460 I'm reminding friends here.

00:14:29.020 I'm in Miami Beach.

00:14:30.440 I got friends who have forgotten that there's a mayor's election happening.

00:14:35.460 You know, I'm like, well, yeah, that's right.

00:14:38.340 It's going on.

00:14:39.080 We live here.

00:14:40.980 And the decisions that have been made have been really of major impact for us who live in this area.

00:14:47.600 So for any of my Miami Beach people listening, get out there and vote.

00:14:50.360 I mean, I voted for minor.

00:14:51.260 I highly recommend you do the same.

00:14:52.520 But unless you want things to turn into mayhem here again.

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00:17:08.100 We just heard from our man Clay, stuck in a situation at the Chicago airport because of the shutdown.

00:17:20.020 And I am sure, you know, whenever you're in a messy airport situation and they're not telling you exactly what it is, that's a bad sign, right?

00:17:30.660 Bad enough when they're like, well, we've got some weather coming in, whatever it is.

00:17:34.400 When you're just being told, yeah, we don't know, man.

00:17:36.920 You might have to camp out here.

00:17:37.960 Maybe time to get that sleeping pad and unroll it.

00:17:41.840 You know, maybe time to take your sweatshirt, make it into a pillow, and lie on the ground.

00:17:47.900 Don't worry, Chick-fil-A will open at some point.

00:17:50.060 You know, that's where things are because of the government shutdown.

00:17:55.580 The air traffic controllers are very annoyed about this situation, as they, well, should be.

00:18:02.740 But I want to take you on a journey of sorts into what may be the most self-defeating and self-pitying book tour of all time.

00:18:19.040 Certainly high on the list.

00:18:20.600 And no, it is not, in fact, Kareem Jean-Pierre.

00:18:22.640 Kareem Jean-Pierre, I think we all get what's going on with that one, with that situation of the book tour.

00:18:30.840 She's an independent.

00:18:32.000 Now, you were the press secretary for Joe Biden.

00:18:34.640 Now you're independent?

00:18:36.540 You've left the Democrat.

00:18:37.360 You've left the Democrat Party because they finally couldn't prop up your boss anymore, whom you, Kareem Jean-Pierre, were lying to the American people about.

00:18:48.520 You, Kareem Jean-Pierre, who said that it was a cheap fake when people shared video of the president having cognitive issues.

00:18:59.220 Cognitive breakdown.

00:19:00.560 Now, you, Kareem Jean-Pierre, now would a lecture us about how the Democrat Party abandoned him?

00:19:07.140 Were they not supposed to?

00:19:08.600 What exactly did she want them to do?

00:19:10.280 She doesn't even know.

00:19:11.840 She doesn't know.

00:19:13.320 Makes no sense.

00:19:15.320 But Kamala Harris, she's not just hoping to cash out on a pretty weak book tour and do the speaking circuit for a bit and then get some gig at MSNBC. 1.00

00:19:26.840 No, Kamala Harris does think that she should have a leadership role in the Democrat Party and a leadership role for the country. 0.99

00:19:37.280 Kamala Harris wants to be, make no mistake, wants to be president of these United States. 1.00

00:19:44.140 But she's got a problem. 0.91

00:19:46.620 She's Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:19:47.540 Same person that we saw in this last election.

00:19:51.180 It's not that we didn't know what we were dealing with.

00:19:53.460 It's not that the American people weren't aware of Kamala Harris.

00:19:58.880 It is, in fact, that she has tremendous deficiencies.

00:20:03.360 And here is Jon Stewart, propagandist of the left.

00:20:10.680 Jon Stewart, as he is talking to Kamala, this is cut four, about whether Biden was competent to serve or not.

00:20:20.660 Listen to this exchange, part of the book tour, play four.

00:20:24.060 I believe he was fully competent to serve.

00:20:26.960 Do you really?

00:20:27.740 Yeah, I do.

00:20:28.720 That surprises me, actually.

00:20:30.180 No, I do.

00:20:30.860 But there's a distinction to be made between running for president and being president.

00:20:36.820 What's the distinction?

00:20:38.480 Well, being a candidate for president of the United States is about being in a marathon at a sprinter's pace, having tomatoes thrown at you every step you take.

00:20:50.180 That sounds lovely.

00:20:51.560 Yeah, it's more than a notion.

00:20:54.420 Get involved in public service, ladies and gentlemen.

00:20:56.580 And to be the seated president, the sitting president, while doing that, it's a lot.

00:21:02.740 It's a lot.

00:21:03.540 Yeah.

00:21:04.080 I think it's a hard case to make for people that he didn't have the stamina to run, but he had the stamina to govern.

00:21:10.800 Because I think most people view the presidency as a marathon run at a sprint with tomatoes being thrown at you in terms of governance.

00:21:18.720 John Stewart, way too gentle.

00:21:22.500 He's a propagandist.

00:21:23.880 Way too gentle with Kamala. 1.00

00:21:25.480 This is moronic. 0.99

00:21:27.640 I mean, this is just insulting to the intelligence of everybody's watching. 1.00

00:21:31.760 Oh, Joe Biden, it's okay for him to be commander in chief.

00:21:35.680 It's okay for him to be the one who would be responding to a possible attack on the United States, an act of war, making decisions that affect hundreds of millions of Americans and billions of people around the world.

00:21:54.060 That's, he had plenty of, plenty of gas in the tank for that.

00:21:59.240 But to show up, remember, he's being ferried by Air Force One.

00:22:03.180 I mean, to show up to give some speeches, he took it all the way to June, my friends.

00:22:08.340 So we're to believe that his cognitive ability, his mental faculties, weren't strong enough to take the campaign as the nominee from June to November, but they were strong enough for him to be president, president in June, and therefore in 2020, 2025 as well.

00:22:34.520 Because, right, what would be the only thing that he wasn't able to do, according to Kamala, who is an absurd person, absurd, Jon Stewart, not the tough case.

00:22:48.340 Yeah, please. 1.00

00:22:49.260 It's idiotic, Jon, and you know it. 1.00

00:22:53.300 Where is the difference? 1.00

00:22:54.900 He's president in June of 24.

00:22:57.740 He's fine to do that.

00:22:59.240 He's going to be fine, then, to be president in January of 25, but it's the whole campaigning thing in between that he can't handle?

00:23:08.880 That was the part of it that he wasn't up for?

00:23:11.660 And let me remind you, that's an energy issue, not a cognition issue.

00:23:16.880 What we saw at the debate with Joe Biden and Donald Trump was somebody who has some stage or some level of dementia, which means that his brain is not functioning.

00:23:31.660 His decision-making is not functioning as it should, which we also know because he had outsourced his presidency to the advisers around him.

00:23:41.680 All of this adds up, but Kamala's out there trying to say, oh, the problem wasn't Joe Biden's ability to think.

00:23:55.200 It was he needed more nap time to get through the campaign.

00:23:58.500 You know, it's just not going to work. 0.98

00:24:00.700 We're not all that dumb. 0.97

00:24:02.920 We know what they did. 0.98

00:24:04.520 We know the big lies, they all told, and they're trying to, in some way, they're trying to push away that humiliation, that stink of being so utterly mendacious.

00:24:21.800 But this is what happened.

00:24:23.580 They lied to the American people about it, and one of the big problems they have is the person who should be best positioned to take back leadership for the Democrats,

00:24:33.460 the former vice president, the former nominee, Kamala Harris, is completely tainted by her relationship to the lie about Joe Biden. 0.89

00:24:46.840 And then we get to, well, also, Kamala, why is it that the American people, I mean, you lost every swing state to Trump.

00:24:55.880 People know who you are.

00:24:57.560 You're the vice president.

00:24:59.520 Why weren't you able to do it?

00:25:00.900 Jon Stewart continuing on.

00:25:02.240 Like I said, he's being as friendly and gentle to Kamala as he can be. 0.97

00:25:06.520 But he doesn't want to just look like a total clown buffoon himself. 0.97

00:25:11.000 Here he is. 0.98

00:25:11.600 This is cut six.

00:25:13.000 Why'd you lose Kamala?

00:25:14.240 Here's her explanation.

00:25:15.260 Listen to it.

00:25:15.740 I do believe one of the biggest factors that was at play in the 107 days, we just didn't have enough time.

00:25:21.140 We didn't have enough time.

00:25:22.240 Or was it too much time?

00:25:23.400 I mean, if you had done the election after 60 days, I think you win.

00:25:28.640 Honestly, there seemed like a stagnation point.

00:25:33.520 And then if you look at the lines, it doesn't look like what would have changed.

00:25:39.140 Well, but there's so many variables that went into the outcome of that race because you can also look at where you start to see an infusion of resources going into mis- and disinformation.

00:25:51.120 I talk about, for example, the Elon Musk factor in the book.

00:25:55.240 You can look at that there were certain inflection points that had an impact on the race.

00:26:01.620 And to your point, it was, as David Plouffe said, it was those traditional inflection points, and there were others.

00:26:08.520 So I don't want to reduce what we need to do going forward to any one factor around what we could have done better, what I could have done better in those 107 days, what was happening before.

00:26:21.700 I think there are a multitude of factors that all need to be addressed.

00:26:26.820 Misinformation and disinformation?

00:26:28.780 She's really going to go there?

00:26:29.820 She's going to pull that one now? 1.00

00:26:33.080 Oh, it's because of the misinformation and the disinformation.

00:26:37.320 That's why she lost?

00:26:39.240 And she didn't lose by a little bit.

00:26:42.040 I understand the aggregate vote total, you can say, but that's not the election that's run.

00:26:46.460 It's the Electoral College.

00:26:48.420 And she lost every possible swing state entirely to Donald Trump.

00:26:52.100 Every one. 0.86

00:26:53.260 He was indicted four times by these sham deep state loser prosecutors.

00:26:57.420 He survived a bullet through his ear, another assassination attempt, the entirety of the legacy media throwing all of their credibility in one giant bonfire in an effort to stop Trump.

00:27:12.120 And she got absolutely crushed by him in this election.

00:27:14.620 And she takes, you'll notice, no accountability for it.

00:27:20.460 Have you heard her say anything like, you know, I made a mistake?

00:27:24.060 I read her book, by the way, which was written for her by other people.

00:27:26.700 Have you heard her say that I made a huge error about anything?

00:27:33.880 No.

00:27:34.900 Did she learn anything from this process?

00:27:37.100 No.

00:27:37.360 It's always someone else's fault.

00:27:40.780 It's always things outside her control.

00:27:44.220 It's sexism or racism or Trumpism or disinformation or misinformation or...

00:27:50.700 What about Kamala?

00:27:51.900 You're just not very good at this?

00:27:53.680 And you were able to ride a wave of DEI in the Democrat Party that was willing to push people to the very heights of power based upon elevated superficial characteristics like gender and skin color or ethnicity.

00:28:13.120 And that the American people have decided that we've had enough of that and that we should all, we should just judge people by who they are, man or woman, any race, what are your capabilities, what's your skill set, what do you bring to the table?

00:28:29.740 Bringing diversity to the table is not meaningful to people who care about those other things.

00:28:37.300 And this is the big change, and this is the world that Kamala does not want to be operating in, I might add. 1.00

00:28:44.320 One in which you are held accountable and responsible for what you do as a person.

00:28:49.060 Your decisions, your abilities, your work ethic.

00:28:53.300 Kamala wants to whine about how she's a victim. 1.00

00:28:56.460 She's the former vice president of the United States, was handed, handed the Democrat nomination, which a lot of Democrats didn't want to do. 0.99

00:29:07.300 And now she complains about it. 0.99

00:29:09.620 And everybody else, I read her book, everybody else makes mistakes. 0.98

00:29:12.720 Everybody else did the dumb things. 0.51

00:29:15.520 She doesn't say, never mind, I'm sorry.

00:29:18.840 She doesn't say, I'll do better next time in any meaningful way.

00:29:23.120 Or I'll change.

00:29:24.240 Remember what she said about Biden?

00:29:25.340 Would you change anything about Biden?

00:29:26.780 No.

00:29:28.420 Because she just thinks she's supposed to win for showing up.

00:29:32.160 The people in charge are supposed to tell her how great she is and that she now has all this power. 0.98

00:29:38.700 And this election with Donald Trump, where he crushed her, is a repudiation of the world that she had been living in before, at least in her own mind, and certainly in the state of California, where she just gets to show up and that's enough.

00:29:51.840 She doesn't have to be impressive.

00:29:54.660 She doesn't have to be good.

00:29:55.760 She just has to be there.

00:29:56.980 Well, turned out, not this time.

00:30:00.200 And I don't think it's going to happen next time either.

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00:31:30.020 Tootsie Roll.

00:31:35.400 It was, in fact, a song.

00:31:37.460 It is, in fact, a dance.

00:31:39.500 From the 90s.

00:31:41.260 Back when I used to listen to the music on the radio.

00:31:45.660 To the left.

00:31:48.020 Tootsie Roll.

00:31:48.940 That's a great, that's a great tune, everybody.

00:31:51.940 I'm just glad that the team pulled this one together for me on the fly.

00:31:56.140 Because I was sounding like a crazy person talking about the magic Tootsie Roll song that didn't exist.

00:32:01.020 It does exist.

00:32:02.880 Thank you.

00:32:03.560 Thank you for this one.

00:32:04.480 Carol Markowitz joins us now.

00:32:05.920 Now, Carol, do you, in fact, remember that fantastic song about the Tootsie Roll?

00:32:12.880 I do not.

00:32:13.700 I don't.

00:32:14.420 I want to.

00:32:15.420 I'm, like, trying to rack my brain and think about it.

00:32:17.620 I saw the dance.

00:32:18.440 I, none of this is familiar to me at all.

00:32:21.660 Wow.

00:32:22.260 I am on an island here that I was not expecting to be.

00:32:24.860 I thought you were going to tell me that this was a very famous dance in the early 90s.

00:32:31.020 But all right.

00:32:31.660 Well, I thought so.

00:32:35.240 But, you know, then again, apparently I'm, no one in the studio in New York even knew it.

00:32:38.440 They thought I was, like, having, like, a Biden moment or something.

00:32:41.700 I was just talking nonsense.

00:32:42.980 So, turns out there is a Tootsie Roll song.

00:32:45.980 And I got to say, when that funky beat came on, my moves started, my moves and grooves started to get going over here.

00:32:52.660 All right.

00:32:53.700 Carol Markowitz, you, like me, we're in a weird position here, Carol.

00:32:57.640 Let's be honest about this, okay?

00:32:58.880 Because we're going to talk about New York City with a lot of native knowledge of New York, having both lived there, between the two of us for, ah, like 60 years.

00:33:09.780 I mean, a very long time between the two of us.

00:33:12.160 And yet, some of our New York area listeners will point out we now both live in South Florida.

00:33:20.100 So, there's that.

00:33:20.880 I just wanted to get that out there as we express our love for New York.

00:33:24.020 This Mom Donnie situation, 30,000 foot view. 0.99

00:33:27.640 What do you see happening?

00:33:29.160 Where are you on all this?

00:33:31.320 You know, I'm holding out hope that Andrew Cuomo is going to beat him.

00:33:36.220 That's where we are right now.

00:33:37.440 I mean, Andrew Cuomo is why I live in Florida.

00:33:40.040 And so, there's some irony to the fact that if I were in New York right now, I would be voting for Andrew Cuomo.

00:33:46.720 Crazy as that is.

00:33:48.260 But I think Mom Donnie runs away with this. 1.00

00:33:50.420 I think New York is a very blue city.

00:33:52.260 It's an off-year election.

00:33:53.640 Donald Trump is president.

00:33:55.360 All of these factors are going to play into the Democratic candidate winning, like, as usual.

00:34:03.260 The only difference is this Democratic candidate is really far left.

00:34:07.040 He is a self-proclaimed socialist.

00:34:09.260 I would call him a communist.

00:34:10.600 He wants government-run grocery stores.

00:34:12.800 He wants government to take over private buildings.

00:34:15.520 I mean, he is really far left.

00:34:18.040 I hope that he loses.

00:34:20.160 Let's start with that.

00:34:20.840 I don't think that's happening, though.

00:34:22.320 And then, if he wins, I hope that he's unable to implement his policies, which seems likely.

00:34:28.740 I don't think he's going to be able to do many of the things he wants to do.

00:34:31.940 I root for New York to turn it around.

00:34:33.840 But every day, they move further away from the great place that it used to be.

00:34:39.920 People always say to me, like, well, why did you take so long to leave New York?

00:34:43.160 And I say, it was amazing.

00:34:44.920 It was so great.

00:34:45.740 It was so safe.

00:34:46.560 It was so clean.

00:34:47.440 It was in such good shape during the Bloomberg years that it took Bill de Blasio several years to destroy that.

00:34:55.380 And that's where New York is right now.

00:34:58.980 Now, I most, you know, first and foremost, I think I identify with the neighborhood that I grew up in.

00:35:05.420 And I went to St. David's in Regis.

00:35:07.320 So, I identify with the Upper East Side.

00:35:09.300 Like, that's my, if I had to pick my home neighborhood in New York, I'm an Upper East Side guy at heart.

00:35:14.640 And there was always, I think that was the Upper East Side when, was it, Joe Loda ran back years ago.

00:35:24.500 I'm trying to remember now.

00:35:25.540 It was Staten Island and the Upper East Side were, like, two of the only places that were red in that election.

00:35:30.580 So, the Upper East Side has had a little tinge of sanity that's, I think, gotten less and less with time.

00:35:36.280 You are a, you're a Park Slope person, right?

00:35:38.720 No, no, Buck Sexton, how dare you?

00:35:41.720 I am a South Brooklyn person.

00:35:43.820 And if you look at the map of Brooklyn, it's South Brooklyn is, like, a red enclave. 0.96

00:35:49.840 I mean, Donald Trump won South Brooklyn.

00:35:52.020 And it's, you know, I was born in the Soviet Union.

00:35:54.840 I grew up in, like, we called it the Russian community in Brooklyn, even though a lot of us are not Russian.

00:36:00.740 It's, that community is super conservative.

00:36:03.760 And I lived in Park Slope towards the end of my stay in New York.

00:36:07.060 Oh, can I just, she throws that in there at the end, like, I'm a crazy person.

00:36:10.560 I'm so, oh, I'm sorry.

00:36:11.640 You only most recently were a Park Slope person.

00:36:14.360 Yeah, look, Park Slope is, for anybody listening who doesn't know, it's a super left area that it's crazy that we live there at all.

00:36:22.700 It may be.

00:36:23.460 Would you agree with me?

00:36:24.500 Yeah.

00:36:24.660 Would you agree?

00:36:24.980 I mean, I think if you're trying to pick, I think Upper West Side and Park Slope, probably two of the bluest of all of the five boroughs, right?

00:36:32.840 I mean, you're, I would say Park Slope's even bluer.

00:36:35.460 It's even further left.

00:36:36.820 I mean, they're both very Democrat.

00:36:38.180 But when I moved to Park Slope, from the Upper West Side, actually, what I found was, like, on the Upper West Side, if they want to build a homeless shelter, all the liberal Upper West Siders are like, no, I don't want a homeless shelter on my block.

00:36:49.940 In Park Slope, they wouldn't do that.

00:36:51.580 They would say, look, obviously we need a homeless shelter, but, you know, we're just worried about the carbon footprint and, like, the transportation issues around it.

00:36:59.300 Like, they would completely sandbag the conversation and make it something else entirely.

00:37:05.300 So that's the difference, I think, between liberalism and leftism.

00:37:08.240 So this is, I want you to take us into the mentality here a little bit, because you lived around this, and you know these people, and you're still in contact with the ultra deep blue elements of New York City.

00:37:19.400 Yep.

00:37:19.760 The people with, like, you know, $3 million to $6 million townhouses in and around the Park Slope area who were going to vote for Mom Donnie, what the heck is wrong with them?

00:37:33.420 Like, explain to me what they are thinking.

00:37:35.980 Well, they're the same people who had the defund police signs in their windows in 2020, and that's the kind of thing that pushed us out.

00:37:42.220 We couldn't live with that hypocrisy.

00:37:44.200 And these people, yeah, they think that they're socialist warriors, and they think that when they say, eat the rich, they don't mean them somehow.

00:37:53.180 You know, so you have, like, Billie Eilish, for example, talking yesterday or two days ago about how billionaires shouldn't exist.

00:38:00.200 But she's a multimillionaire. 1.00

00:38:01.780 Who does she think, like, is next after they get rid of the billionaires? 0.98

00:38:06.180 Yeah, these people don't think it applies to them.

00:38:08.300 I think that they are, you know, safely in cons from the surrounding area, and they don't worry about there being no police, for example.

00:38:18.480 They think, oh, I'll just get private security if I have to.

00:38:21.220 It's another level of just insanity over there. 0.95

00:38:25.200 Now, another part of this, you're Jewish. 0.74

00:38:30.440 There are, and, you know, we have all these South Florida Jewish friends in common who are all very sane, sound thinkers about all these things.

00:38:40.320 And then I have to sometimes think back to when I lived in New York, and there were some right-wing Jews, who I agree with on all things political.

00:38:48.920 And then you have the far-left Jewish contingent, and they're going to be voting for Mom Donnie in substantial numbers.

00:38:58.060 All the polling shows you're going to have people who are Jewish, who are self-described Jews in New York, voting for a guy who says,

00:39:05.540 when the NYPD has its boot on your neck, the IDF is lacing up the shoes?

00:39:11.160 Like, this is crazy.

00:39:12.700 The thing is, okay, so there's two things about that.

00:39:15.440 One, you can say you're Jewish even if you're totally not Jewish. 0.60

00:39:18.800 If you have, like, one Jewish relative somewhere down the line, and it happens to be on your mom's side, you can say you're Jewish.

00:39:24.960 And that's what a lot of these people do.

00:39:26.440 They don't do anything that makes them Jewish.

00:39:28.580 You know, they think that bagel and cream cheese is Jewish.

00:39:32.220 So these people are, A, not Jewish. 0.91

00:39:34.380 But, B, every poll that I've seen in the last, like, two weeks has had the number at around 18% to 20%,

00:39:40.640 which, listen, let me not, you know, kid myself here.

00:39:44.380 One out of every five Jews in New York City voting for Mom Donnie is still high.

00:39:48.960 But, look, 20% of Jews voting for the Democrat and 80% not voting for the Democrat is actually a huge shift for the Jewish community.

00:39:58.380 And Donald Trump got somewhere in the 40% of Jewish vote.

00:40:02.080 That has never happened before.

00:40:03.340 I hope that number continues to climb.

00:40:05.560 I hope my neighborhood, not my neighborhood, but my people continue to wake up because Russian Jews have been conservatives all along.

00:40:13.140 It's, you know, the American Jews who have been here for 100-plus years, who never had any strife, who don't know what the world is like, those are the people who are on the left.

00:40:21.820 And they're breeding themselves out, and the ones that aren't are coming over to the right.

00:40:27.060 Speaking of Carol Markowitz, her show is on the Acclaim Buck Podcast Network.

00:40:30.420 Go check out the Carol Markowitz Show and also Normally, which she co-hosts with Mary Catherine Ham.

00:40:35.140 Great to listen to over this weekend.

00:40:37.360 What are some of the things on the most recent Normally podcast?

00:40:40.120 Well, Mary Catherine and I are talking about all the things that are in the news.

00:40:45.340 We cover Tucker and Fuentes.

00:40:48.120 We get into the shutdown.

00:40:50.200 All the news that you're hearing, Mary Catherine and I are on it on Normally.

00:40:54.280 We talk to Bill Gates saying that climate change is no longer a big issue.

00:40:57.940 Thanks so much for that, Bill, after destroying so many lives along the way.

00:41:01.660 And we cover all that with humor.

00:41:03.820 Can I tell you, I had a friend in New York, an older guy who's played tennis with, very, very wealthy guy.

00:41:13.020 And he was, I would say, a Democrat, but like a reasonable Democrat.

00:41:17.920 And one day we got crossing on the tennis court.

00:41:21.560 We're like waiting to switch sides.

00:41:23.940 We're sitting down on the bench.

00:41:25.380 And I started talking to him, and he asked me about climate change.

00:41:28.380 And he was, and I just did my usual thing.

00:41:30.540 I've been the same since I was like 12, right?

00:41:32.260 So I just launched into my thing.

00:41:33.940 This is 20 years ago.

00:41:34.740 I'm like, it's absurd.

00:41:35.800 We're not all going to melt.

00:41:37.060 The polar bears aren't drowning.

00:41:38.540 No one actually believes this.

00:41:39.960 No one's getting a deal on Martha's Vineyard real estate because it's all going to be underwater. 0.99

00:41:44.920 Like, this is all garbage. 0.96

00:41:46.400 He thought, and he had heard all my other right-wing stuff. 1.00

00:41:49.520 He thought I was nuts.

00:41:51.040 Like, he actually was like, are you, like, it really unsettled him.

00:41:54.980 To those people who think that way, now that one of their,

00:41:58.720 one of the high priests of this total delusion, Bill Gates, is like, yeah, it's actually not that big of a deal.

00:42:06.340 Barack Obama gave a speech at the Coast Guard Academy saying it was the biggest national security threat we faced, Carol.

00:42:14.760 Climate change. 1.00

00:42:16.100 Do we get any apologies from these people for being idiots? 1.00

00:42:18.880 Like, how does this go? 1.00

00:42:20.740 Right.

00:42:21.600 Exactly.

00:42:22.080 We don't get any apologies from these people. 0.97

00:42:24.380 They just get to walk back their ridiculous comments and we're all supposed to take it. 0.88

00:42:28.880 I mean, Bill Gates is saying what I think even, you know, everybody's been saying for the last decade plus, 0.95

00:42:35.480 even people from the liberal side.

00:42:38.180 I think of Constantine Kissin, for example.

00:42:40.400 He made this point that, you know, stopping poverty is the most important thing, not climate change.

00:42:46.320 And if you're somebody who lives somewhere without indoor plumbing and your kids, you know, need to eat,

00:42:52.580 you're not going to care about climate change.

00:42:54.960 And he said, you know, he made this point.

00:42:56.940 And that's what Bill Gates ended up saying, you know, three days ago.

00:42:59.880 It's like, wake up.

00:43:00.680 This is not new.

00:43:02.800 It's crazy.

00:43:03.700 And I had the same experience in New York.

00:43:05.340 Like, people who thought I was reasonable whenever we get into climate change, you know,

00:43:09.740 I would say to them, well, who's your favorite climate scientist?

00:43:11.760 And, of course, they would have no idea because they don't actually study the climate science.

00:43:16.160 They just say, they find whatever the New York Times says about it and repeat it.

00:43:19.440 Right, they parrot the preferred slogan.

00:43:21.000 It was funny to me because it was, one of the big differences for me was on other things,

00:43:26.120 like if I was talking to somebody about guns, I understand, like, guns matter to me,

00:43:32.920 like firearms, the Second Amendment, and for them it's terrifying.

00:43:36.960 But at least we're having a discussion about something that's worth discussing.

00:43:40.340 Like, I want to explain to them why the right to bear arms is so important.

00:43:43.880 And they think that it's going to make all the mean, bad crime go away if the scary AR guns, 0.54

00:43:48.680 which no one actually really uses to kill anybody 99% of the time, it's pistols.

00:43:53.420 On climate change, I'm like, I don't even know what we're talking about here.

00:43:57.020 Like, that's just that this is, there was, I don't care at all.

00:43:59.880 Like, there's no discussion to be had.

00:44:02.120 And yet, for years, they're going to totally rewrite the history on this.

00:44:05.440 For years, it's one of the areas, I think, where libs would go the most insane on you

00:44:10.440 at a cocktail party.

00:44:12.000 Yeah.

00:44:12.900 Yeah, that's right.

00:44:14.000 And, you know, one of my points about it was always like, if I'm Bill Gates and I really

00:44:18.220 believe in climate change, I couldn't possibly keep using my private plane.

00:44:22.920 But he does.

00:44:23.960 So that means he does not believe it.

00:44:25.640 There's no reason in the whole world, it doesn't matter how many people talk to you on

00:44:29.100 the commercial flight, if you really believe you're flying on a private plane causes climate

00:44:34.380 change, then you wouldn't do it.

00:44:36.440 And it's the same thing with, like, Leonardo DiCaprio, Al Gore, all of these people just

00:44:40.660 seem like they don't believe what they're actually saying.

00:44:43.760 Yeah, total frauds, total frauds.

00:44:45.440 What are your kids for Halloween, Carol?

00:44:48.020 The youngest one is going to be a 1920s gangster with me and my husband.

00:44:51.400 He thought he was going to be a 1990s gangster, and he started using the West Side gang sign.

00:44:56.740 Yeah, we had to tell him that wasn't that kind of gangster.

00:44:59.840 Middle son is going to be some kind of, like, I don't even know, camouflage guy.

00:45:04.960 And the 15-year-old girl, she's too cool. 1.00

00:45:07.000 I don't know what she's going to be, if she's going to be anything.

00:45:10.760 Okay.

00:45:11.500 Yeah.

00:45:11.760 Well, the kids, they really, they stop doing what you want after a certain time.

00:45:15.760 So get all the dressing up in now. 0.86

00:45:18.280 Oh, we have my dog dressed up as a Miami Heat, you know, Miami Heat jersey.

00:45:23.960 That's as festive as we get over here.

00:45:25.780 Ginger has a Miami Heat jersey. 1.00

00:45:27.440 That's about all we got.

00:45:28.240 Love it.

00:45:29.100 Yeah, good times.

00:45:29.880 Carol Markowitz, everybody.

00:45:30.960 No, no, Speed not dressing up.

00:45:32.500 Who?

00:45:33.060 Speed?

00:45:33.580 No, we're not kidding.

00:45:34.640 No, no.

00:45:35.460 He's, he's, yeah, he's, he's, speed doesn't roll like that.

00:45:38.840 You know what I mean?

00:45:39.300 He's a distinguished fellow already.

00:45:41.540 Check out the Carol Markowitz show this weekend.

00:45:43.840 Carol, give Shia a hug from me, and we'll talk to you soon.

00:45:46.780 Thank you.

00:45:46.900 Talk to you soon.

00:45:47.900 Talk to you soon.

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00:47:30.860 Welcome back in to Clay and Buck.

00:47:33.000 Our friend Miranda Devine joins us now.

00:47:36.160 She's the host of Pod Force One.

00:47:39.520 And she just sat down with our phenomenal vice president, Mr. J.D. Vance, to talk about a whole range of things.

00:47:47.520 But first, Miranda, Clay is unfortunately stuck in transit.

00:47:53.380 He was at our boss and mentor's induction into the Radio Hall of Fame in Chicago.

00:47:59.560 And I got a pass because I'm on babysitting duty here for my little one.

00:48:06.300 But he had our proxy there and he was celebrating.

00:48:08.880 And now he's trying to get home.

00:48:10.540 It is a mess.

00:48:11.840 I think Nashville just said that they basically don't have enough air traffic controllers for the airport to be functioning.

00:48:16.940 Like, what's going to happen?

00:48:17.800 I mean, it's horrendous.

00:48:20.400 I don't think people are fully grasped how terrible it is.

00:48:23.240 And I have a friend, Newark was shut down last night.

00:48:26.400 And I have a friend who, we were doing something last night.

00:48:29.640 She had to fly out of Newark to Palm Beach for her mother's birthday party.

00:48:34.940 And all flights were cancelled.

00:48:37.640 She ended up getting a train to New Haven and then getting one of those cheap flights from there finally to Palm Beach.

00:48:45.800 She got there at 9.30 this morning.

00:48:47.980 So it was, you know, just a 12-hour ordeal.

00:48:51.820 And it sounds like Clay's going through the same thing.

00:48:54.760 I had to fly to Palm Beach on Sunday to interview somebody there.

00:49:00.300 It's, I mean, I feel like, I know the airlines have to do it to keep things safe.

00:49:07.240 But when you have TSA as well, it's not just the flight, air traffic controllers.

00:49:12.280 I have another friend whose family was coming in from England on the weekend.

00:49:17.260 They ended up having to sit on the plane after that long trip for an hour on the tarmac because the customs hall was full.

00:49:25.340 It took them, ended up taking them three hours to get through customs.

00:49:29.040 Yeah, I bring this up, one, because it's just I think everyone can commiserate with travel nightmare stories.

00:49:37.300 But also, this is in the past something that has actually brought really intense pressure onto government shutdown situations.

00:49:46.640 I mean, is this, do you think this could get the Democrats to snap out of it sooner than anticipated?

00:49:53.680 Or do they have some kind of a game plan they're still running?

00:49:57.480 Well, it ought to.

00:49:59.280 We've had all the leaders of the airlines have come out and said, you know, without saying, well, it's dangerous, just saying this is affecting the economy.

00:50:07.520 This is hurting people.

00:50:09.220 We've got the snap benefits ending tomorrow.

00:50:12.360 You know, we have the unions have come out and they have also pressured the Democrats to end this thing.

00:50:20.820 And they just remain implacable because for them, they're just, they're losing everything.

00:50:28.460 They don't have anything really to lose, I guess, because they're so, they've already lost everything.

00:50:34.960 And they feel like chaos and disruption is a good thing because it hurts the government.

00:50:42.380 It stops the Trump administration from being able to continue on with what they're doing, whether it's deporting illegal migrants or fixing the economy or doing any of the things, unwinding all the other toxic policies of the Biden administration.

00:50:56.940 It just puts a spoke in their wheels and it also creates anger among their voters who they can, you know, already have Trump derangement and are willing to believe the worst.

00:51:10.060 They just lie and gaslight and tell them, oh, yeah, you know, Donald Trump's fault.

00:51:14.280 And so when the snap money runs out tomorrow and the food stamps run out tomorrow, a lot of grocery stores have put security guards around their stores to try and prevent people from coming and just taking the stuff.

00:51:30.000 It's really setting up a really nasty situation, very volatile.

00:51:35.180 And ultimately, even though the polls are moving against the Democrats, I feel like things are coming to a head and that Trump eventually will be blamed.

00:51:46.580 He said today when he gave a little gaggle that he's willing to sit down and negotiate with the Democrats, but they have to open up the country first.

00:51:57.560 They have to end the shutdown.

00:51:59.140 And he said normally they would have, but they're now crazy.

00:52:03.100 And I agree with that. 0.96

00:52:03.960 I think Chuck Schumer has gone mad.

00:52:06.360 He's so petrified about the insurgent left on his side of the party, especially in New York, where Zora Mandani is looking like he's going to romp at home.

00:52:17.180 They're all scared.

00:52:18.600 The resident Democrat kind of old guard who stuffed everything up until now.

00:52:25.480 And, of course, you're going to have young people, young Democrat voters who are rightly angry about the mess the Democrats have made of everything.

00:52:34.240 So they're taking things into their own hands.

00:52:36.500 It's like a revolution inside the Democrat Party.

00:52:39.900 But unfortunately, we're all suffering.

00:52:41.560 Miranda, I also want to ask you, just because you have excellent sources in this administration.

00:52:48.400 You just sat down with J.D. Vance for your podcast, Pod Force One.

00:52:51.720 Everyone should go check out that episode.

00:52:53.220 This reporting about strikes inside of Venezuela, what kind of credibility do you put on it?

00:53:02.040 What's your sense as to how imminent that may be?

00:53:05.440 There's definitely a lot of military resources in the Caribbean now, which is not usually where we think of a major military presence from the U.S. side.

00:53:13.620 Yeah, look, I don't have any inside gossip on that.

00:53:20.020 I'm a little cautious and a little concerned because, you know, are we being told the whole truth?

00:53:28.780 You know, is this really just about stopping drugs from coming into the country?

00:53:33.180 Or is it some sort of soft beginning of a regime change in Venezuela?

00:53:38.440 If that's the case, we should be told about it up front.

00:53:44.320 And, you know, Donald Trump's got a lot on his plate.

00:53:46.760 He's just come back from Asia.

00:53:48.120 I suppose he'll be focusing on this again.

00:53:50.400 But Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, is running that operation along with Pete Hegseth when they're blowing, you know, boats and submarines out of the water.

00:54:00.560 I mean, that's all great if they're all drug dealers.

00:54:04.000 But what are we doing now?

00:54:06.080 Well, is it really about stopping the cartels or is there something else?

00:54:11.040 If there's something else, great, you know, I'm all for it if it's surgical and contained.

00:54:16.540 But I think we need to be told a little more than we are now because it does sort of raise a lot of red flags.

00:54:23.720 Now, in your interview with J.D., one thing that I know you talked about was the very widely watched and discussed Oval Office, Zelensky, Trump, J.D., verbal melee, Donnybrook, however everyone wants to say it.

00:54:43.760 What did you learn from talking to J.D. about that?

00:54:46.680 And how do you think this administration is seeing the Russia-Ukraine issue currently?

00:54:52.340 Yeah, well, he was sort of at pains to talk about the fact that that's in the past.

00:55:00.460 You know, he said that he, sitting there, he felt that Zelensky had been rude to President Trump.

00:55:06.340 And he felt that, you know, he wanted to make the point that if any world leader comes to the Oval Office, they owe the President of the United States an enormous amount of respect.

00:55:16.500 And he didn't feel that that was happening.

00:55:18.600 But he thinks that the relationship has been reset and that while, if you asked him a couple of months ago, did he think that the prospect of peace was possible, he said he would have said, no, they're just going to keep fighting.

00:55:34.500 It's going to be their Vietnam. 1.00

00:55:36.320 And now he's a little more optimistic.

00:55:39.840 He thinks that there is a possibility that they can work it through.

00:55:44.020 And, you know, Russia's intransigence, he said, yep, I mean, that is certainly the case now. 0.67

00:55:51.820 It's really one minute you think you've got one side on the right page.

00:55:56.920 The next minute you think you've got the other one.

00:55:59.120 It's messy.

00:56:00.080 It's a to and fro.

00:56:01.300 But he's got faith that President Trump is going to pull it off ultimately.

00:56:06.420 Speaking of Miranda Devine, host of Pod Force One.

00:56:09.220 She just interviewed J.D. Vance.

00:56:10.580 Go check out her episode of that one.

00:56:12.860 Wherever you listen to your podcasts and Miranda, something else that came up.

00:56:16.900 We actually have a cut from your interview.

00:56:19.580 And here is this is on.

00:56:21.420 It's something that Clay and I see very differently.

00:56:23.900 Let's put that out there, which is UFOs.

00:56:26.320 Here is J.D.

00:56:27.420 When you asked him about this, play 27.

00:56:29.500 Tulsi Gabbard says that she believes there are aliens.

00:56:32.640 Do you believe that?

00:56:33.720 You know, I don't.

00:56:35.160 It's interesting.

00:56:36.140 I wouldn't say that I do or don't believe it.

00:56:38.740 I mean, I'm a big believer that there are things out there that we can't explain.

00:56:45.400 And so if another person sees an alien, maybe I see an angel or a demon.

00:56:49.280 So I'm a big believer that there are, like, spiritual forces working on the physical world that a lot of us don't see and a lot of us don't understand and a lot of us don't appreciate.

00:56:58.960 But, you know, is it aliens or is it our guardian angel or is it aliens or is it a not so guardian force that doesn't care about us or, in fact, actively wishes us harm?

00:57:11.820 I don't know the answer to that question.

00:57:14.860 Interesting, because I had people writing in that they said, well, what did we should play that for us?

00:57:19.080 But Miranda, this is a great opportunity.

00:57:21.180 Clay's not here to defend himself.

00:57:22.680 I think that there are no aliens and that this UFO stuff is all overblown nonsense.

00:57:26.640 So you just agree with me, right?

00:57:27.980 What do you think?

00:57:29.640 No, I don't really.

00:57:31.320 I have an open mind about it.

00:57:33.080 I think my feeling is just that it would be arrogant.

00:57:36.780 It would be arrogant to think that we're the only intelligent life forms in the universe.

00:57:41.900 Oh, you're with Clay on that.

00:57:43.600 Oh, my God.

00:57:44.340 Clay's not even here and she's taking his side.

00:57:46.600 This is so sad.

00:57:48.440 And look, I grew up reading science fiction avidly.

00:57:52.580 So I love all of that.

00:57:54.460 But I thought it was interesting.

00:57:56.840 And, you know, he sort of did an intellectual pivot from the UFOs to the spiritual realm.

00:58:04.900 And I'm totally with him on that.

00:58:07.700 You know, that there are things that we cannot explain.

00:58:12.380 Again, it's about humility and not being arrogant.

00:58:15.320 We can't explain certain things, phenomena in the world around us.

00:58:21.500 And so I do believe that there is, you know, whether it's guardian angels or demons or whatever it is, I don't think that we can just assume that everything is just what we see in front of us.

00:58:37.540 And so I thought it was interesting in that it went to the heart of his faith, his Catholic faith.

00:58:44.820 He's a convert.

00:58:46.000 And he talked about going to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem last week when he was visiting there.

00:58:53.000 And just it was so moving for him emotionally and spiritually that he said he wept.

00:59:00.120 And so I thought that was, you know, a nice side of him to see.

00:59:06.000 Tell me about the relationship that you got into this with J.D., the relationship between Trump and the president, President Trump.

00:59:13.140 Yeah, that was interesting.

00:59:16.500 He's very respectful of him.

00:59:19.000 And he also said that he, you know, because he had been a never Trumper early on and he's changed his mind.

00:59:27.400 He said in part he changed because he realized that President Trump was not an interventionist, was not a regime change guy, was against war.

00:59:37.260 Well, J.D. served in Iraq, is very against war, but he likes the peace through strength philosophy that President Trump has.

00:59:47.080 And he talked about how I said, what have you learned about President Trump that's new and that people might not know?

00:59:53.780 And he said, well, he's got a very good heart.

00:59:55.740 And he described how they just had him for dinner, him and the first lady for dinner at the vice president's residence, the Naval Observatory, and how they kept the kids upstairs.

01:00:08.300 They've got three little kids with the babysitter because, you know, they didn't want them jumping all over the president.

01:00:14.160 And the president wanted to see them.

01:00:15.900 So and the kids wanted to see him.

01:00:17.500 So they came down.

01:00:19.180 And, you know, like J.D. says, like they're little kids.

01:00:21.680 They're uncontrollable.

01:00:22.840 They're running around.

01:00:23.520 And he said President Trump just loved it.

01:00:26.860 You know, they were he was so kind to them and treated them, you know, like little human beings and that he's very grandfatherly and he's great with kids.

01:00:35.740 And so that was interesting.

01:00:37.340 And also just what we've all observed is his prodigious work ethic.

01:00:42.980 And I think the fact that Carolyn Levitt told me this as well, that on these long trips that he does on Air Force One, like when he did that whirlwind Jerusalem, Egypt trip for the peace deal, it was 30 hours in the air there and back.

01:01:01.080 And President Trump didn't sleep and everyone else was like going to sleep.

01:01:05.300 And J.D. says, you know, he'll he'll come up and sort of prod various members of his cabinet who might be dozing as if they're weak and low energy, you know, because they sleep and he doesn't.

01:01:16.480 And and Carolyn told me, like, he goes and it's 1 a.m.

01:01:19.220 And he decided he was going to do a press gaggle.

01:01:21.660 And she's like, oh, OK, I'll have to go and wake them all up.

01:01:25.740 So that was quite.

01:01:27.480 And the other.

01:01:27.840 Yeah, no, he's you go ahead.

01:01:30.280 No, the other interesting thing was I met J.D.'s beautiful dog, a German shepherd called Atlas and just sort of an adolescent, about 18 months and very fit, but also incredibly well disciplined, well trained by him.

01:01:47.660 And so I sort of made a quip about the Secret Service agents who probably have PTSD from Joe Biden's absolutely feral German shepherd's commander and major who were attacking the agents left front center, drawing blood, biting them, tearing their clothes.

01:02:05.940 And and J.D. said yes and laughed and said, yeah, well, a few of the agents have actually expressed gratitude to him that his dog, by contrast, is so well behaved.

01:02:17.440 And and he is.

01:02:18.820 And I think it says a lot about, you know, you can tell like German.

01:02:22.580 Oh, I leave huge.

01:02:25.000 It's a huge indicator, Miranda.

01:02:26.660 I know I'm a big dog person.

01:02:28.000 We have a dog here.

01:02:28.620 I grew up with dogs.

01:02:29.720 You give me some time with someone's dog.

01:02:31.380 I know a lot about the household.

01:02:33.340 I know about, you know, whether there's a lot of anxiety.

01:02:35.900 I know about whether there's structure.

01:02:37.280 I know about whether people are kind.

01:02:39.220 I mean, the dog tells you a lot about a household.

01:02:42.380 So that's very interesting about J.D.'s German shepherd.

01:02:45.320 Go check out Pod Force One.

01:02:47.180 Miranda Devine.

01:02:47.920 Always excellent.

01:02:48.740 Have a fantastic weekend.

01:02:50.660 Thanks so much, Buck.

01:02:51.520 And hope Clay gets back quickly.

01:02:53.520 Yeah, me too.

01:02:55.620 I'm not betting on it.

01:02:57.080 I'm hoping, though, that he managed to get through.

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