Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay and Buck

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00:00:04.220 Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast.

00:00:09.260 Welcome in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show, Thursday edition of the program.

00:00:14.260 We hope all of you are having fantastic starts to your day so far,

00:00:18.460 and we hopefully are going to make it a little bit better

00:00:21.000 as we roll through the Thursday edition of this program.

00:00:25.940 Let's jump right into it.

00:00:27.660 Peter Navarro, by the way, going to join us in the third hour of the program

00:00:31.040 about going to prison.

00:00:33.040 The timing on that is certainly interesting given everything that's going on

00:00:37.300 in the climate as it pertains to criminal investigations

00:00:41.900 and the political sort of universe that is surrounding all of those.

00:00:48.920 But we begin with news that hit last night as I was in the process of flying back home.

00:00:54.920 I'm texting with Buck.

00:00:55.940 We first hear that there is going to be some of these different affiliate stations

00:01:03.140 that carry the Jimmy Kimmel show on ABC that are refusing to carry it.

00:01:10.800 And maybe let me take a step back.

00:01:12.260 For those of you who have not been following this story,

00:01:15.060 let me kind of lay it out for you.

00:01:17.000 On Monday, and you can correct me if I get any of these facts wrong, Buck,

00:01:20.340 on Monday, Jimmy Kimmel made a joke.

00:01:24.120 And really, it was more of the comment that preceded the joke

00:01:27.860 that was the controversy.

00:01:30.260 And I want to play that for you.

00:01:32.320 That is now, I believe, cut number 26.

00:01:36.100 This happened on Monday's Jimmy Kimmel show.

00:01:39.900 We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize

00:01:45.180 this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them

00:01:49.200 and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

00:01:52.760 Okay, so that was not actually a joke.

00:01:57.180 That was a comment that suggested that the assassin was actually one of us.

00:02:04.520 That is a Trump supporter.

00:02:05.900 That is someone who voted for Trump.

00:02:07.920 That, of course, was not true.

00:02:10.280 And there was quite a lot of evidence that it was not true

00:02:13.480 by Monday afternoon, evening, when that show would have been taped.

00:02:19.800 There was then, I believe, the show aired on Tuesday.

00:02:23.900 There was no reference to it, to that joke, to that commentary.

00:02:28.500 It then grew in intensity during Tuesday.

00:02:32.920 And last night, they said Jimmy Kimmel's not going to air.

00:02:35.620 Now, the pressure, it appears, came from two different affiliate networks.

00:02:42.640 And let me explain how this exactly works,

00:02:44.820 because I don't think most people understand this.

00:02:47.220 I live in Nashville.

00:02:48.840 My local ABC affiliate is owned by Nexstar.

00:02:53.140 That is, it's not owned by Disney.

00:02:56.020 It is basically licensing ABC content,

00:02:59.700 but it is a locally owned Nashville, for instance, where I live, station.

00:03:05.000 Sinclair is another company that owns many different ABC affiliates.

00:03:09.780 These are very big companies that own multiple different networks

00:03:14.120 across the political, across the country.

00:03:18.060 And last night on my ABC affiliate, because I flipped it over,

00:03:23.100 the guide said it would air Celebrity Family Feud

00:03:26.060 in the place of Jimmy Kimmel.

00:03:28.000 Instead, they aired News Nation, which is also owned by Nexstar.

00:03:33.440 So I thought that was interesting.

00:03:34.960 Just, I presume, their nightly news content.

00:03:37.780 I am a friend of Leland Vittert's, I think I could say,

00:03:41.720 or he's a friend of mine.

00:03:43.300 And so I will do his show sometimes on News Nation,

00:03:46.580 because, you know, Leland's a good guy.

00:03:48.840 And we may have him on the show soon to talk about his book.

00:03:51.060 But he's a News Nation host, so there you go.

00:03:53.400 Yeah, so I flipped it over, and that's what was on.

00:03:57.400 There are a variety of different reactions now

00:04:00.860 that are across the political spectrum.

00:04:03.600 I don't believe, unless it's happened in the last 15 minutes,

00:04:07.280 that Jimmy Kimmel has officially been fired.

00:04:10.660 But there is no return date so far,

00:04:15.000 or any certainty that he will ever come back.

00:04:19.360 It could be like Stephen Colbert,

00:04:21.740 which CBS announced they were going to be canceling.

00:04:25.420 Now, in addition, that's the background.

00:04:27.840 And I think I got all that right, Buck.

00:04:29.260 You can correct me if there's any details that you think are facts

00:04:32.440 that you think we need to add into the equation here.

00:04:34.760 I just want to make sure all of you are well-informed

00:04:37.020 and understand all the background.

00:04:39.020 The commissioner of the FCC, Brendan Carr,

00:04:42.720 who we have had on the program quite often,

00:04:46.440 weighed in yesterday about the fact that the broadcast licenses,

00:04:52.140 that is ABC, CBS, NBC, are actually just that.

00:04:57.340 They're licenses, and they are required to try and be down the middle of the road

00:05:03.360 when it comes to their news telecast, when it comes to their broadcast overall.

00:05:07.820 In other words, because that is government spectrum,

00:05:11.060 unlike cable, which can be as partisan as theoretically it wants to a large extent,

00:05:17.060 your broadcast networks, ABC, CBS, and NBC,

00:05:20.800 are being given the ability to broadcast on publicly owned spectrum.

00:05:24.960 And as a part of that, they have obligations of fairness.

00:05:28.360 With that in context, Disney basically decided,

00:05:33.200 with Nexstar and Sinclair putting out public comments,

00:05:37.060 and we'll read some of those for you,

00:05:39.200 that they were not going to be airing the Jimmy Kimmel show.

00:05:42.480 There is no set return date.

00:05:45.040 It is now turned into,

00:05:47.160 Jimmy Kimmel is seen as a martyr for free speech on the left.

00:05:51.940 And those on the right are pointing out that this is consequence culture,

00:05:58.180 not cancel culture.

00:06:00.020 I think I'm kind of summing up that argument.

00:06:02.240 Here's what I would say to you, Buck, as we begin,

00:06:04.740 now having laid all those parameters out.

00:06:07.500 Roseanne Barr had the number one show in America,

00:06:11.780 other than football.

00:06:13.480 So obviously I'm talking about a scripted television show.

00:06:17.060 More people were watching the Roseanne show,

00:06:19.520 whatever it was called.

00:06:20.400 She made a joke on Twitter and Barack Obama and Michelle Obama,

00:06:26.600 according to her, among many other prominent left-wingers,

00:06:30.440 called Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney,

00:06:32.800 and he fired Roseanne on the spot.

00:06:35.820 They wrote her off the show and had her die of a drug overdose.

00:06:40.260 I think some of you will remember.

00:06:41.640 I think the show was called The Conners.

00:06:43.780 And that was the end of her sitcom career,

00:06:48.520 at least in that show.

00:06:49.660 We also had Gina Carano,

00:06:51.960 who was one of the stars of The Mandalorian,

00:06:56.180 which at the time was the most popular

00:06:59.340 Disney Plus streaming show out there.

00:07:03.000 She shared social media posts

00:07:05.800 that were considered to be unacceptable by those on the left.

00:07:09.920 Disney fired her.

00:07:11.540 Not one word from anyone on the left when both of those firings happened,

00:07:18.000 based on a tweet, based on social media posts.

00:07:22.740 And now, suddenly, Jimmy Kimmel is the cause celeb of everyone on the left here.

00:07:30.220 So, I would point out that when you create a culture where someone can be fired,

00:07:38.240 when they say something that is considered offensive,

00:07:41.280 you have created the standards by which your own stars can also be fired.

00:07:48.300 And to me, if you didn't say a word about Roseanne,

00:07:52.040 and you didn't say a word about Gina Carano,

00:07:54.820 I don't understand how you think you have the moral high horse or legitimacy to suddenly write in

00:08:00.300 and say, oh my goodness, look at what they're doing to Jimmy Kimmel.

00:08:04.140 So, that's my take, Buck.

00:08:05.460 What's your thoughts?

00:08:06.520 We've got a couple minutes here, so I'll give you a quick...

00:08:08.880 I knew you were fired up.

00:08:10.700 I'll give you a quick and dirty, Clay,

00:08:13.040 because I think you're going to want to dive into this one, too.

00:08:15.620 All of those cases, all of those instances

00:08:20.540 are very important lead-up and context to understand

00:08:24.540 why so many people on the right feel the way they do right now,

00:08:27.820 which is the funniest thing that has involved Jimmy Kimmel in a long time

00:08:32.460 is him getting ganked off the air.

00:08:34.140 Like, I think this is hilarious.

00:08:36.020 I have no sympathy for him at all.

00:08:37.220 He's not a First Amendment martyr.

00:08:38.920 And you established much of why that is.

00:08:42.400 I would add to it, though, where were all of these people right now?

00:08:46.340 And we'll play some of their voices.

00:08:47.420 Like, Brian Stelter's like, oh my gosh, it's DEFCON 1.

00:08:50.600 It's DEFCON 1 for free speech.

00:08:54.020 Man, that guy needs some chalk.

00:08:56.000 But, you know, they're trying to make this big case

00:09:01.080 about how this is a violation of the First Amendment.

00:09:04.140 Well, where were they during COVID when people like you and me

00:09:07.400 were having social media platforms shut us down, penalize us,

00:09:13.140 demonetize us, and all the rest?

00:09:15.060 At government direction, the government was directing them to do this.

00:09:21.140 The government was singling out.

00:09:23.060 We could have Alex Berenson on.

00:09:24.580 His hair would be on fire talking about this.

00:09:27.700 The government was by name.

00:09:30.600 Biden's administration was by account saying,

00:09:34.620 silence this person.

00:09:36.020 Take them off.

00:09:37.400 And this is, remember, people, this is a lot of people make,

00:09:40.060 you know, their living by being able to share their thoughts on social media,

00:09:43.960 tell people about their content, their substack, their podcast, whatever it is.

00:09:48.120 So there's clear monetary damage.

00:09:50.440 And I saw you tweet about this, Clay.

00:09:51.960 The Supreme Court in June of 2024, 6-3, got this one terribly wrong.

00:09:56.980 100% wrong.

00:09:57.740 Totally wrong.

00:09:59.240 Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett completely screwed this one up

00:10:03.380 because they didn't want to get all rough with the Biden administration.

00:10:07.980 Oh, no.

00:10:08.280 And they essentially said that there was, and this is a very brief overview

00:10:13.260 from when I did a quick scan of it again this morning, the case.

00:10:16.580 But essentially they said that the, what was it, Missouri, I think,

00:10:20.440 was one of them that brought the case, lacked standing,

00:10:23.360 couldn't prove that there would be future instances of this kind of censorship,

00:10:28.920 couldn't prove that the government urging necessarily resulted in the suppression,

00:10:36.260 and basically just washed their hands of it.

00:10:39.640 Now, I think they got it wrong, but, Clay, that's the law of the land.

00:10:42.620 The Supreme Court said, unless you can prove the government took an action because of,

00:10:48.140 or, sorry, the private company took an action because of a government action itself,

00:10:53.200 the government just saying something to a private company is not enough on its own

00:10:57.200 for you to be able to claim some big First Amendment infringement.

00:11:01.760 So these are the rules.

00:11:04.200 Deal with it, Libs.

00:11:05.480 Deal with it.

00:11:06.260 Yeah, and that, by the way, Supreme Court decision is wrong, in my opinion,

00:11:11.480 because the most important, I would say, of many important aspects of the First Amendment,

00:11:16.920 and I'm synthesizing and simplifying here,

00:11:20.000 is the government can't ask a private actor to do what it could not do,

00:11:25.440 because otherwise there is no purpose of the government restriction.

00:11:29.460 So the government can't say to a private company,

00:11:33.800 hey, go censor that guy or that gal, because the government itself could not do it.

00:11:41.400 That's basically all they did with social media.

00:11:43.940 They went to Facebook, and they threatened Facebook, and they threatened social media companies.

00:11:48.620 If you don't either censor or take down these comments or restrict their sharing,

00:11:54.580 there will be consequences for your business.

00:11:56.740 They even said it publicly.

00:11:58.540 And the Supreme Court said 6-3.

00:12:00.560 That's okay.

00:12:00.980 Now, on the Jimmy Kimmel front, I think this is such an important aspect of this story.

00:12:10.800 We have created a world where you can be fired no matter how much or how long you've been doing a thing of creative work in the larger public.

00:12:26.700 If somebody that is powerful enough or a group of people are powerful enough to have seen what you tweeted,

00:12:33.720 what you posted, what we said on this show, as you all who listen to Rush know,

00:12:38.880 Rush was one of the initial targets of cancel culture.

00:12:43.340 And I just think that's wrong.

00:12:45.780 And some people are going to get mad at me.

00:12:48.400 I am one of the few who was defending Roseanne, was defending Gina Carano, was defending Rush.

00:12:55.300 And I think you can fire Jimmy Kimmel if you think he's not good for Disney.

00:12:59.960 That's how all businesses work.

00:13:01.960 I personally don't like the idea that he said something, even if I think it's wrong.

00:13:07.100 And that is going to be the action that suddenly he's no longer employable.

00:13:12.080 And by the way, I've been saying this for a long time.

00:13:13.720 I said it when Bill Maher got fired off politically incorrect for what he said about the 9-11 terrorists.

00:13:20.060 But this is profoundly, by and large, created by the left.

00:13:24.860 And they are now bearing the consequences of the culture that they created.

00:13:28.500 And I understand why other people out there are like, hey, good riddance, you made this, you made your bed, now lie in it.

00:13:34.800 It's really just about a power shift.

00:13:37.080 And the power dynamics have changed.

00:13:38.720 They don't have the power to just crush their opponents over issues like this anymore.

00:13:43.280 And in fact, the Trump movement has taken a lot of that power into their own hands.

00:13:48.540 So, shoe is on the other foot, as far as I'm concerned.

00:13:51.480 There's no principle that they're operating on here.

00:13:53.400 Just don't ever forget that.

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00:15:52.200 We are joined now by our friend Eric Trump.

00:15:56.720 He is, of course, one of President Trump's sons.

00:16:00.280 A guy I've known since we were both in grade school.

00:16:03.600 And he's doing amazing things running a Trump organization, as you all know.

00:16:07.560 He's also got a new book out, Under Siege, My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation.

00:16:13.060 And a portion of the proceeds will go to Turning Point USA to help continue Charlie Kirk's mission.

00:16:18.320 Eric, thanks for making the time for us.

00:16:20.480 Guys, it's great to be back on.

00:16:21.480 But talk to us, if you would, for a second here about the – because we have to dive into this news of the day.

00:16:26.920 I think it hit everybody like – I don't know if it was that much of a surprise, given what a jerk he's been lately.

00:16:32.820 But what's your take on the Kimmel indefinite suspension?

00:16:38.320 Listen, the guy has been a jerk.

00:16:39.860 He hasn't been funny.

00:16:41.340 But honestly, I think the network uses a way to get him out based on bad ratings.

00:16:45.400 I mean, look at what the ratings are on ABC and NBC and CBS right now.

00:16:50.120 So relative to call it some of the other shows, even the cable shows, right?

00:16:54.560 Look at my wife.

00:16:55.380 Look at Laura.

00:16:56.240 I mean, her show is getting 2.6, 2.8 million people on a Saturday night.

00:17:01.520 And you look at CNN during the week, and if they can pull 500,000, 600,000, 700,000 people, it's like they're doing great for themselves, right?

00:17:07.400 So it clearly shows that the content is not working.

00:17:10.740 People are no longer amused.

00:17:12.080 It's not funny to make fun of 31-year-old kids who are getting assassinated on any soil, certainly not U.S. soil, especially somebody who is as beloved as our friend Charlie.

00:17:20.740 And I'm glad they got rid of this jerk.

00:17:24.640 Eric, where were you when you found out about what happened to Charlie Kirk last week?

00:17:30.920 And what was your immediate reaction?

00:17:32.920 Because you've got young kids like he does and like Buck does, and my kids are getting a little bit older.

00:17:37.960 But you travel around.

00:17:39.360 You do a lot of public events.

00:17:40.640 So does your wife.

00:17:41.420 What was your reaction when you saw that?

00:17:43.720 You know, honestly, guys, I hate to say it, but it was like deja vu to Butler, right?

00:17:46.480 I mean, I walked into my office.

00:17:48.220 My sister came running up to me and grabbed me.

00:17:50.160 She goes, you know, Charlie shot, and it looks like Charlie's dead.

00:17:53.160 I mean, it was right after.

00:17:54.420 And obviously at that point it was making its round on social media.

00:17:57.580 And, you know, you look at the movement of the body, and you knew it was devastating.

00:18:02.680 And, you know, me, I've competed in all the shooting sports my entire life.

00:18:06.140 You know, you could tell it was a high-power rifle.

00:18:08.140 I could tell instantly that was a high-power rifle just by the sound of the shot.

00:18:11.820 And my heart sank.

00:18:13.500 I mean, you know, Charlie was a friend.

00:18:14.620 I've been on the stage with him 100 times, as you guys have.

00:18:17.620 You know, we've done a lot of events together over the last, you know, 10 years.

00:18:21.820 And, you know, I've stood on that same stage 1,000 times myself, you know, in swing states all across the country.

00:18:27.420 I mean, there were times leading up to elections where we were doing five, six events, you know, like that a day, you know, all over every victory office, every factory, every, you know, standing on top of John Deere tractors with a bullhorn.

00:18:38.320 And, you know, I mean, my heart sunk.

00:18:41.360 A young guy who created one of the greatest political movements in this country who changed the entire youth vote in the United States.

00:18:48.100 And, you know, they thought they could get rid of some guy's voice by using a bullet to expunge somebody's life.

00:18:53.600 And honestly, when you look at, you know, 1.4 million people march across London, when you see Pretoria, South Africa, and marches in honor of Charlie, when you see churches full all across the country in the days that follow, you know, they only cemented his legacy.

00:19:07.280 They didn't expunge his legacy.

00:19:08.740 They cemented his legacy.

00:19:10.620 And, you know, and Charlie lives on.

00:19:13.360 And, you know, we can never leave that stage, guys.

00:19:15.700 I will never, ever, ever get off that stage.

00:19:18.000 And I think he was a great inspiration for all.

00:19:20.880 Well, he is.

00:19:22.300 And certainly your father continues to be.

00:19:25.220 And that moment, you mentioned Butler, where fortunately a very different outcome there for that day with respect to your father and that he was able to pump his fist in the air and tell everyone to continue to fight.

00:19:38.080 Eric, probably the most iconic single moment, I think, in my life in American politics.

00:19:42.980 I don't know of anything that would really compete with that, that the power of that visual.

00:19:48.040 And I know in your book, Under Siege, My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation, you get into a lot of this.

00:19:55.120 One of the good things, though, is that this is the greatest political comeback and really the most inspiring, I think, story of overcoming a lot of the forces of darkness in this country just by telling your family's story and telling about what you, your brother, your sister, you know, your dad, what you've all been through.

00:20:15.000 Yeah. So, guys, I started working on this three years ago, and I was the guy.

00:20:19.840 I ran the whole company, so everything outside of Washington, D.C. and the family really fell on my shoulders.

00:20:23.680 And all of a sudden it was impeachment one.

00:20:25.920 It was impeachment two.

00:20:26.900 It was the Russia hoax.

00:20:27.860 It was a dirty dossier.

00:20:28.980 I was getting calls from the FBI.

00:20:30.360 I hear you have secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower communicating directly with the Kremlin.

00:20:35.260 It was obviously a total sham.

00:20:37.120 You know, then they sent every DA, every AG after us, whether it was New York or Washington, D.C. or Fulton County, Georgia.

00:20:44.380 You know the stories of all of those.

00:20:45.720 I got 112 subpoenas.

00:20:48.280 I became the most subpoenaed person in American history, you know, by these radicals.

00:20:52.760 And they took us off of Facebook and Twitter and Instagram.

00:20:55.420 They took my father off the ballot in Colorado.

00:20:57.180 And then in Maine, you know, they came after us.

00:21:00.520 They came after our employees.

00:21:01.740 They raided Mar-a-Lago.

00:21:02.860 They raided our homes.

00:21:03.880 I mean, it was nonstop siege.

00:21:06.080 They wanted to bankrupt us.

00:21:07.360 They wanted to see us gone.

00:21:08.940 They wanted to take away our voice.

00:21:10.320 They wanted the dozens of gag orders we all had and these nonsense cases, all of which we won.

00:21:16.860 And the vast majority of them fell on my shoulders because, again, they came after the company based on the fact that my father had constitutional protections.

00:21:23.240 And, you know, and we beat these guys.

00:21:25.020 We beat them back at every single instance.

00:21:27.840 And so I started writing this book under siege because that's what they wanted to do.

00:21:31.140 And then, you know, I had my two kids on my lap when Butler came around and, you know, watched my father's head almost get blown off while having a, you know, five- and seven-year-old sitting on my lap, four- and six-year-old actually at that time sitting on my lap.

00:21:42.560 I mean, in high-definition TV.

00:21:44.540 And, you know, it's – you know, and then obviously I saw them trying to do it again in West Palm at the golf course.

00:21:50.600 And then I saw what happened to Charlie.

00:21:52.920 And that's what they wanted, guys.

00:21:54.500 They wanted our voices gone.

00:21:55.780 They wanted our movement gone.

00:21:57.080 They wanted my father gone.

00:21:58.860 They wanted me off that stage.

00:22:00.340 They wanted Don off that stage.

00:22:01.820 They sure as hell don't like you guys for everything you stand for and how principled the two of you guys have been.

00:22:07.360 And that's what under siege is about.

00:22:09.000 It's about all the behind-the-scenes stories of how they tried to just decimate us, the corruption of government, and frankly, and thank God, how we won, how we triumphed in something that was such an impossible, you know, I mean, endless fight that went on for –

00:22:24.600 Can I just – one thing I want to ask you, Eric, is Clay told me this from the – I refused to read the Snake Tapper book because I just felt like it was trying – you know, he's the arsonist who's then calling the fire department, right?

00:22:36.460 It just felt too – but one interesting revelation from the book, and Clay read the whole book, so I appreciate that.

00:22:43.040 I did it so everybody else didn't have to do it.

00:22:45.180 He jumped on that hand grenade for the rest of us.

00:22:47.140 We appreciated that one.

00:22:48.480 But I – that Biden was behind closed doors constantly with glee in his eyes talking about how your dad was going to go to prison.

00:22:59.920 Does that surprise you at all?

00:23:01.460 Like, did you think that there was still some sense of fair play in that Biden White House, but then when that came out, or did you know that that was – that really the whole time they wanted to lock your dad in a cell?

00:23:11.860 Guys, I was the one when they raided Mar-a-Lago who's shouting on TV at night, you think the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago without the explicit permission of the president of the United States?

00:23:21.080 Like, give me a freaking break.

00:23:22.720 And by the way, the other interesting thing about Jake Tapper, Laura was on his show.

00:23:25.980 She was on CNN, and she goes, listen, everybody realizes this guy doesn't have his mental faculties, and he starts screaming at her on the show, how are you the person to diagnose his cognitive ability?

00:23:38.140 Don't you think you're offending children with stutters around the country?

00:23:41.180 And Laura, I mean, she would not put up with the nonsense.

00:23:42.880 She fought right back.

00:23:44.300 And then sure enough, you look at the title, and you can maybe remind me of the exact title, but it was like a Biden's cognitive decline and a cover-up by the mainstream media.

00:23:54.260 They were saying, the irony of this when – to apologize.

00:23:58.880 Like, you know, the irony of this when you're sitting there, you know, yelling at Laura Trump for saying that we all realize, everybody in this country realizes that the guy is not exactly the sharpest tool in the –

00:24:08.360 He said Laura was making fun of his stutter.

00:24:11.300 Yeah.

00:24:11.900 Yeah.

00:24:12.280 Which is just insane.

00:24:14.080 Yeah.

00:24:14.420 And it screamed at her for, quote, unquote, diagnosing Biden and not having a PhD.

00:24:18.800 I mean, give me a break, and then he writes a book about how, you know, the media misled the world and, I mean, the great irony of this.

00:24:26.580 But, you know, that's why, honestly, that's example 9,820 of why people detest the mainstream media in this country and why, honestly, independent voices like yours are moving the needle and why no one watches CBS and why people like Jimmy Kimmel are getting fired and, you know, so on.

00:24:43.160 Under Siege is the book, My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation.

00:24:47.120 We're talking with Eric Trump.

00:24:48.820 You are a business guy.

00:24:50.360 You're traveling all over the world doing deals.

00:24:53.200 And one place that I think is emblematic of how much the culture has shifted is suddenly everybody wants to play on your family's fantastic golf courses again.

00:25:03.820 I know that that's a good thing, but does a part of you just think when these deals get done, man, so many of these business people are complete and total cowards.

00:25:14.980 Your dad was right in 16, 17, 18, 19, 20.

00:25:18.780 They try to cancel him.

00:25:19.880 They kick him off.

00:25:20.840 And then he wins the popular vote.

00:25:22.820 He's now standing, you know, doing toast with the king and queen of England last night.

00:25:27.160 And all these business guys suddenly, you know, they show back up and they're like, oh, we always loved you.

00:25:32.760 Oh, let's go with you.

00:25:34.140 I mean, this is is business one of the most shameless places on the planet in general, because you guys are grinding for years.

00:25:41.300 And now everybody loves you.

00:25:43.020 But it's got to be a part of you.

00:25:44.400 It's got to be like, give me a break.

00:25:46.360 I got canceled, guys, by every bank in the country for doing nothing wrong, only because I chose to wear a Make America Great Again hat.

00:25:53.100 I'm talking about golf courses in upstate New York, things that had absolutely nothing to do with politics, things, you know, entities that have been around for 25 years that had been perfect customers.

00:26:02.780 And they turned us off.

00:26:03.980 Capital One, the worst of all of them, turned us off like we were dogs.

00:26:07.040 I mean, they canceled 300 accounts in the middle of the night.

00:26:09.180 And then all of a sudden, every single day, I get calls from the heads of the and you would know the names of every single one of them.

00:26:13.840 They're the biggest bankers on Wall Street.

00:26:15.320 Hi, Eric.

00:26:15.960 You know, we really miss the relationship and we'd really love to get back together.

00:26:19.720 I mean, is there a way that you could come over to my house?

00:26:21.800 I'd love to take you to dinner.

00:26:23.300 I'd love you to treat you.

00:26:24.440 You know, it'd be great if we could try and rekindle the relationship.

00:26:27.180 And I'm sitting there, guys, and I have very little tolerance for this nonsense, you know, especially now.

00:26:31.580 I'm over trying to, you know, hide feelings and, you know, I'm not into the pageantry of this stuff.

00:26:36.300 And you're sitting there saying, you dirty, can't say it on the radio, guys.

00:26:40.200 You know, like I remember and I will not forget.

00:26:42.960 And, you know, it is shameless.

00:26:45.540 Listen, Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg's come around in a big way.

00:26:47.460 And I actually legitimately believe he loves my father and loves our family and I have a nice relationship with him now.

00:26:51.940 But he was sitting behind me at inauguration.

00:26:54.140 It was the first time I've ever met him.

00:26:55.860 And I'm sitting there saying, you're sitting behind me at inauguration yet.

00:26:58.280 In 2020, you spent $400 million against this.

00:27:01.840 You put $400.

00:27:02.400 And by the way, you go on Facebook to try and find a polling location, you know, or a voting location, a ballot.

00:27:08.960 You know, and guess what?

00:27:10.380 Every single one would come up for Biden.

00:27:12.020 Not a single one would come up for Trump.

00:27:13.500 It's like, you know, they rigged the algorithms, they turned down everybody's dials, and now all of a sudden everybody's smiling and happy.

00:27:21.760 And, you know, I'm not saying that people can't change their mind.

00:27:23.400 And I think he legitimately did and is legitimately on the team now.

00:27:26.640 But it's, you know, sometimes it's hard to bite your tongue.

00:27:30.540 Well, we really appreciate the story and also the fight that your family has put forth for the country.

00:27:37.800 And it is a phenomenal first year in this administration.

00:27:42.840 We're not just saying this because he's your dad.

00:27:44.420 I'm not just saying this, Eric, because I think I met you when you were 10 years old or something for the first time.

00:27:49.420 But this is the truth.

00:27:51.280 It has been an incredible first year.

00:27:53.180 And what your dad has come through is the most amazing political battle in my lifetime.

00:27:58.400 I think in any of our lifetime.

00:27:59.400 I don't think anything would come close to it.

00:28:01.740 And the fact that you're giving a portion of the proceeds of the book to Turning Point to continue on with Charlie's legacy, I think, just speaks to how much you care about, well, your friend Charlie, his family, and also the mission that he left behind.

00:28:18.100 So the book is Under Siege, My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation.

00:28:21.240 Go get your copies.

00:28:22.100 Eric, welcome anytime, my friend.

00:28:23.920 Please come back soon.

00:28:25.400 Thanks, guys.

00:28:27.640 That's Eric Trump.

00:28:28.600 I hope, Buck, when we come back, we'll react to that a little bit more.

00:28:33.080 Prize picks.

00:28:34.280 I'm actually going to make the pick this week because I wasn't sure about my travel schedule.

00:28:39.500 So you don't have to worry about Buck, like, panic trying to read George Pickles or try to read my writing.

00:28:44.840 You better have a Saquon pick for me today, though, is all I'm telling you, okay?

00:28:48.020 I am going to give the pick at the end of the third hour.

00:28:51.120 So I will text it to you, Buck, and you can hop on because you're going to be traveling back to Miami, I think.

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00:29:50.240 Let's hit some of the news.

00:29:59.820 Buck, by the way, is on his way to Miami.

00:30:02.380 He and his family are traveling, so I've got you solo for the rest of the show.

00:30:06.780 Tomorrow, by the way, Buck will have you solo because, and I'm looking forward to this,

00:30:12.400 I'm one of the keynotes for the Michigan Republican Party.

00:30:16.900 Our friend Tudor Dixon is obviously very involved in that.

00:30:20.080 It's just part of the Clay and Buck Podcast Network.

00:30:22.480 I'm going to be up at Mackinac Island, Michigan for a big event there that is one of their

00:30:29.540 signature events of the year.

00:30:31.140 And obviously, Michigan is one of the biggest battlegrounds anywhere, but also the home state

00:30:37.700 of my wife, Laura.

00:30:38.880 And we got engaged on Mackinac Island.

00:30:42.320 So it's kind of cool to go back 20, I'm doing the math in my head, 23 years later and be

00:30:51.240 doing a keynote there at their event, which is at the Grand Hotel, which is one of the

00:30:56.640 great hotels in America.

00:30:58.880 And I could barely afford a hotel room there for one night when we got engaged 23 years ago

00:31:05.260 and now going back to help keynote one of the big events for the Michigan Republican Party.

00:31:09.860 So very cool.

00:31:12.140 And I am looking forward to doing that.

00:31:14.380 And I imagine that some of you that are listening right now will be a part of that event going

00:31:19.300 on there, which they do on an annual basis and is a very cool is a very cool place to

00:31:25.780 be doing that event.

00:31:27.240 If you've never been before, I would have no idea.

00:31:30.120 I've said this before and people always say, hey, shut up.

00:31:32.680 You're giving away a secret.

00:31:33.800 I did not know how spectacular Northern Michigan was and still not know unless I had ended up

00:31:42.280 married to a girl from Michigan and especially in the summer, but also in the fall.

00:31:48.940 I don't love cold weather.

00:31:49.980 So some of you do love cold weather, but for basically every time but the winter, one of

00:31:55.540 the greatest places in the country.

00:31:57.160 And in the summer, oh, I mean, just absolutely spectacular up there.

00:32:02.120 And you guys may remember I did the show for a while from Traverse City this summer.

00:32:07.300 But so I'm excited to be back up there.

00:32:09.040 But that is where I'll be on Friday.

00:32:10.440 Not very easy to get in and out of that location.

00:32:13.660 So I'll be traveling during the show tomorrow.

00:32:16.880 Let's dive in to some of what happened at the state dinner.

00:32:20.140 And then we'll spend more time talking about the biggest story of the day and all the discussion

00:32:24.120 surrounding it, which is the Jimmy Kimmel, the Jimmy Kimmel effectively being suspended,

00:32:29.600 although I think it's going to end in a firing here is last night's state dinner.

00:32:34.400 Some of you probably saw some of the video highlights yesterday afternoon, evening saying

00:32:40.080 that we must continue to stand for the values and people of the English speaking world.

00:32:47.060 Cut 22.

00:32:48.540 I thought this was particularly well said by Trump.

00:32:50.940 Listen, the bond of kinship and identity between America and the United Kingdom is priceless

00:32:56.300 and eternal.

00:32:57.960 It's irreplaceable and unbreakable.

00:33:00.200 And we are, as a country, as you know, doing unbelievably well.

00:33:05.740 We had a very sick country one year ago.

00:33:09.480 And today, I believe, we're the hottest country anywhere in the world.

00:33:13.900 In fact, nobody's even questioning it.

00:33:16.200 But we owe so much of that to you and the footing that you gave us when we started.

00:33:20.760 Together, we've done more good for humanity than any two countries in all of history.

00:33:27.220 Together, we must defend the exceptional heritage that makes us who we are.

00:33:32.540 And we must continue to stand for the values and the people of the English speaking world.

00:33:39.480 And we do indeed stand for that.

00:33:42.180 A couple of more cuts from that event, the state dinner.

00:33:47.200 Let me flip it over to the other side of the pond.

00:33:49.480 Here is King Charles giving a toast to Trump and the First Lady.

00:33:54.320 This happened yesterday.

00:33:55.280 Listen.

00:33:55.760 Mr. President, Mrs. Trump, the bond between our two nations is indeed a remarkable one.

00:34:03.540 Forged in the fire of conflict, it has been fortified through our shared endeavors

00:34:09.080 and burnished by the deep affection between our people.

00:34:13.900 Tested time and again, it has borne the weight of our common purpose and raised our ambition

00:34:22.920 for a better world.

00:34:24.520 So, in renewing our bond tonight, we do so with unshakable trust in our friendship and in

00:34:32.820 our shared commitment to independence and liberty.

00:34:36.740 Therefore, as we celebrate this unparalleled partnership, allow me to propose a toast to President Trump and the First Lady

00:34:47.780 and to the health, prosperity, and happiness of the people of the United States of America.

00:34:54.460 Is it unfair to get to have the British accent?

00:34:58.940 I feel like it adds multiple grade levels to what it sounds like you're saying.

00:35:07.640 In other words, if you're a C-level student and you have a British accent, it makes you feel like you're an A-level student.

00:35:14.960 If you're an A-level student, it takes you into the stratosphere of genius, all because of the way you sound while you talk.

00:35:22.860 I don't know that anywhere else likes the American accent.

00:35:27.180 I don't think in England they're listening to Trump and saying, you know what, this American accent, it just sounds so good.

00:35:33.220 The British accent really is kind of an unfair advantage when it comes to argument.

00:35:38.060 One more take, 21, this is Trump again saying the state dinner is one of the highest honors of his life.

00:35:44.280 Your Majesty, Melania and I are deeply grateful to you and Queen Camilla for your extraordinary graciousness.

00:35:54.700 And to William and Kate, thank you so much.

00:35:57.480 It's been so great being with you today.

00:35:59.740 Thank you very much.

00:36:00.760 Appreciate it.

00:36:01.280 It's a singular privilege to be the first American president welcomed here.

00:36:07.760 And if you think about it, it's a lot of presidents.

00:36:12.040 And this was the second state visit.

00:36:15.940 And that's the first.

00:36:17.880 And maybe that's going to be the last time.

00:36:20.920 I hope it is, actually.

00:36:21.940 But this is truly one of the highest honors of my life.

00:36:27.020 Such respect for you and such respect for your country.

00:36:30.600 I don't think we talk about it enough as a society.

00:36:35.860 I love that Trump said this is maybe the greatest partnership in the history of the world.

00:36:40.360 I think he's right.

00:36:41.060 And we are all in debts of gratitude for Western civilization and what it has provided.

00:36:50.380 All of us around the world in terms of economic, in terms of basic human rights, in terms of all of the freedoms that we in many ways take for granted.

00:37:03.960 They're all rooted in the exceptionalism of Western civilization.

00:37:07.600 And much of so-called woke collective culture is really just about tearing down the fabric of Western civilization and arguing that it's rooted in illegitimacy.

00:37:24.760 And once you see that that is what's going on, it becomes so important that all of us stand up and speak stridently and forthrightly in favor of Western civilization and basic human rights.

00:37:37.600 Around the world, around the world, around the world, everywhere.

00:37:40.000 And that's why it was so dastardly.

00:37:45.600 That's why it was so pernicious when the New York Times decided, hey, we're going to redefine American history through the prism of slavery as opposed to the American Revolution.

00:37:58.740 Because they knew exactly what they were doing.

00:38:02.840 If, as Nicole Hannah-Jones, for instance, in the New York Times, decided, they didn't say, hey, America's founding happened in 1492.

00:38:11.740 You know how most people really don't talk about that.

00:38:14.860 And when I'm saying 1492, obviously I'm talking about the discovery of the New World, Columbus, all of that.

00:38:20.120 Because from 1492 to 1619, there was no slavery in the colonies.

00:38:27.760 There was indentured servitude, but no slavery.

00:38:30.920 So for whatever the math is on that, the first 140 years of the New World, there was no slavery.

00:38:37.700 And then there was slavery from 1619 to 1863.

00:38:41.700 But only about 80 years of that was the American Republic allowing slavery.

00:38:48.800 So they don't take 1492 as the founding.

00:38:52.660 They don't take 1776 when we declared independence and became an independent country as the founding.

00:38:59.460 They say 1619 is the founding of the United States.

00:39:04.340 Because effectively that's the time that the first slaves from Africa arrived on the United States shore.

00:39:10.620 And if, this is really important,

00:39:12.560 if they can define America as fundamentally rooted in the illegitimacy of slavery,

00:39:19.460 then they can tear down the entire fabric of the country.

00:39:23.560 It's all very calculated.

00:39:26.220 It's all based in story.

00:39:28.700 How do we define the story of the United States?

00:39:31.200 Is it one primarily defined by triumph?

00:39:33.660 Or is it one primarily defined by evil?

00:39:36.540 And an awful exploitation.

00:39:42.220 If it is awful and exploitative,

00:39:44.840 then everything that is built is rooted in a foundation of illegitimacy

00:39:50.040 and hence can be swept away.

00:39:51.540 The Constitution, the Bill of Rights,

00:39:54.180 the Declaration of Independence,

00:39:55.580 none of it means anything.

00:39:57.600 And that's what they're actually after.

00:39:59.700 And I think Trump gets it.

00:40:02.560 I know J.D. Vance gets it.

00:40:04.860 At his essence and at his core.

00:40:08.340 And all of you,

00:40:09.580 if you haven't really spent enough time thinking about it,

00:40:12.100 spend more time thinking about it,

00:40:14.740 all of this is rooted in Western civilization.

00:40:18.500 And certainly Charlie Kirk got it.

00:40:21.160 And in fact,

00:40:21.940 if you look at that big picture

00:40:23.600 and if you contemplate it,

00:40:25.340 it's also rooted in religion in many ways.

00:40:27.820 And even if you are listening to me right now

00:40:31.340 and you are not religious,

00:40:33.080 as I know some of you are,

00:40:34.680 maybe even many of you,

00:40:36.360 we all benefit from other people who are religious.

00:40:41.800 Because their attempt to live a more honorable life

00:40:46.280 benefits all of us.

00:40:48.360 You sin less.

00:40:49.400 You engage in violent behavior less.

00:40:52.180 You think about the larger context of your life

00:40:56.400 as you're going to be judged for it,

00:40:59.080 which in general leads to better life choices.

00:41:03.020 And all of that is rooted in Western civilization.

00:41:08.200 Which, I do think Trump was right in that toast.

00:41:11.160 The United States and England have historically stood for

00:41:14.220 more than any countries in the world.

00:41:16.540 At least in recent history.

00:41:18.040 Now,

00:41:19.240 what does it say

00:41:21.580 that many of these countries

00:41:24.280 that have basked in the legitimacy

00:41:26.080 of Western civilization for a very long time,

00:41:28.720 Italy,

00:41:29.280 England,

00:41:30.320 Germany,

00:41:31.420 France,

00:41:32.040 many of these Western European countries

00:41:35.100 are now turning their back

00:41:37.020 on Western civilization.

00:41:39.640 We,

00:41:40.680 and this is kind of wild to think about,

00:41:42.440 have actually infected them

00:41:44.460 with the woke virus.

00:41:47.520 And it has run rampant,

00:41:50.020 I would argue,

00:41:50.900 in those countries

00:41:51.960 even more now than it has here.

00:41:54.960 Where I think Trump is acting,

00:41:57.200 in many ways,

00:41:57.920 as an inoculation

00:41:59.140 against the woke virus.

00:42:01.480 It hasn't happened yet in Europe.

00:42:04.340 And in fact,

00:42:05.240 if you go back and look

00:42:06.680 at the way that the woke virus

00:42:08.960 has spread all throughout Western Europe,

00:42:11.200 they blamed us

00:42:13.960 for bringing it to them.

00:42:17.740 And yet,

00:42:18.760 their countries

00:42:19.700 may be more susceptible to it

00:42:21.920 because they don't have a Donald Trump.

00:42:27.020 Just think about it.

00:42:27.820 I was,

00:42:28.640 you know,

00:42:29.300 nerd style

00:42:30.220 as I watched some of that state dinner

00:42:32.640 thinking about

00:42:33.540 the mutuality

00:42:34.860 of impact

00:42:36.260 and how Western Europe

00:42:38.500 certainly has created

00:42:39.900 the republic

00:42:40.820 that we're fortunate enough

00:42:42.000 to live in right now.

00:42:44.180 And how much smarter

00:42:45.380 and better versed in history

00:42:47.620 our founders were

00:42:49.240 because they learned

00:42:50.820 from all of recorded history

00:42:53.200 the flaws

00:42:54.420 that prior governments

00:42:55.620 had made

00:42:56.320 when they tried

00:42:57.380 to build our own.

00:43:00.260 And now,

00:43:01.820 this woke virus,

00:43:03.340 which I like to think

00:43:04.180 that we have extinguished

00:43:05.200 to a large degree

00:43:06.080 in this country,

00:43:07.100 although there's still

00:43:07.940 pockets

00:43:09.040 that need to be attacked

00:43:10.980 and inoculated against,

00:43:13.280 it actually is running

00:43:14.480 more rampant

00:43:15.260 in Europe right now

00:43:17.480 than it even is here.

00:43:19.780 And I hope we can change that.

00:43:21.720 We'll take some of your calls.

00:43:23.060 I want to dive into

00:43:23.660 the Jimmy Kimmel thing

00:43:24.460 a bit more.

00:43:25.000 Buck,

00:43:25.220 like I said,

00:43:25.820 on the road,

00:43:26.420 he'll have you tomorrow solo

00:43:27.520 when I'm traveling

00:43:28.960 up to Michigan

00:43:29.940 to be one of the keynote speakers

00:43:31.440 at their big event up there.

00:43:32.620 But I want to tell you,

00:43:34.540 unfortunately,

00:43:35.360 as many of you saw,

00:43:37.720 yesterday we lost

00:43:38.800 several different

00:43:39.840 police officers

00:43:40.780 in an unfortunate attack

00:43:44.540 against those

00:43:45.300 who would continue

00:43:46.380 to help protect us.

00:43:48.780 And every time

00:43:49.680 one of these situations happens,

00:43:51.260 I feel very fortunate

00:43:52.920 that Tunnel to Towers

00:43:54.540 exists

00:43:55.340 because

00:43:56.240 thanks to what they do,

00:43:58.320 they can take care

00:43:59.040 of so many people

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00:45:39.420 let's go back

00:45:41.560 into the Jimmy Kimmel

00:45:43.440 controversy

00:45:44.100 I've got some more

00:45:45.380 thoughts

00:45:45.800 and I want to get

00:45:46.380 your reactions

00:45:47.060 800-282-2882

00:45:48.720 you can also give us

00:45:49.580 talkbacks

00:45:50.080 let's play one more time

00:45:52.500 because I know

00:45:53.020 many people

00:45:53.520 join the show

00:45:54.240 at different times

00:45:55.200 this is what

00:45:56.360 created the latest

00:45:57.800 free speech

00:45:58.900 controversy

00:45:59.640 this was Monday

00:46:01.240 during the monologue

00:46:02.520 Jimmy Kimmel

00:46:03.400 on the Charlie Kirk

00:46:04.840 assassination

00:46:05.380 listen

00:46:06.100 we hit some new lows

00:46:11.780 over the weekend

00:46:12.420 with the MAGA gang

00:46:13.920 desperately trying

00:46:14.800 to characterize

00:46:15.460 this kid who murdered

00:46:17.060 Charlie Kirk

00:46:17.800 as anything other

00:46:18.600 than one of them

00:46:19.480 and doing everything

00:46:20.260 they can

00:46:20.820 to score political

00:46:22.140 points from it

00:46:23.060 okay

00:46:24.880 so that is the

00:46:26.660 that is the

00:46:27.580 commentary

00:46:28.000 it tied in

00:46:29.640 in the minds

00:46:30.840 of many

00:46:31.380 to this

00:46:33.160 calculated attempt

00:46:34.660 to try to make

00:46:35.420 this crazy assassin

00:46:36.780 seem as if he were

00:46:38.800 a member

00:46:39.440 of the

00:46:40.580 Trump

00:46:41.480 supporting right

00:46:42.540 and there was

00:46:44.380 a very calculated

00:46:45.500 attempt

00:46:46.160 to try to say

00:46:47.440 oh the reason

00:46:48.360 Charlie Kirk

00:46:49.100 was assassinated

00:46:50.140 was because

00:46:50.820 he wasn't

00:46:51.560 right wing enough

00:46:52.640 when

00:46:53.140 all of the evidence

00:46:54.960 that you have all

00:46:56.500 been exposed to

00:46:58.180 and had shared

00:46:58.840 with you

00:46:59.320 certainly on this

00:47:00.120 program and in

00:47:00.780 other places

00:47:01.400 clearly evinces

00:47:02.900 that this was a

00:47:03.860 guy who was

00:47:05.180 dating a trans

00:47:06.380 person

00:47:06.900 family says

00:47:08.100 had gone far

00:47:08.960 left wing

00:47:09.640 wrote anti-fascist

00:47:10.920 anti-nazi

00:47:11.780 pro-trans

00:47:12.840 messages

00:47:13.960 on the shell

00:47:14.880 casings

00:47:15.500 of his

00:47:16.440 of the bullets

00:47:17.940 of the weapon

00:47:18.500 that he was

00:47:19.580 planning to use

00:47:20.500 to kill

00:47:21.040 Charlie Kirk

00:47:22.060 all of these

00:47:22.940 things

00:47:23.380 clearly demonstrate

00:47:24.960 that he was

00:47:25.720 of the left

00:47:26.500 and that he was

00:47:27.100 motivated by

00:47:28.060 a decade plus

00:47:29.280 of people

00:47:30.280 out there

00:47:30.880 calling

00:47:31.480 Donald Trump

00:47:33.020 and his supporters

00:47:33.760 Hitler and Nazis

00:47:35.220 and

00:47:36.360 now

00:47:37.540 that there is

00:47:38.400 a suspension

00:47:39.080 that has come

00:47:40.060 thanks to

00:47:41.140 some of the

00:47:42.160 affiliate stations

00:47:43.140 out there

00:47:43.640 saying we won't

00:47:44.500 air this

00:47:45.240 there is now

00:47:46.460 a pushback

00:47:47.600 in an aggressive

00:47:48.400 way

00:47:48.980 against the idea

00:47:50.720 that Jimmy

00:47:52.260 Kimmel should

00:47:53.040 have been

00:47:53.640 suspended

00:47:54.160 over this

00:47:55.080 I'm going to

00:47:55.320 play some of

00:47:55.700 that audio

00:47:56.160 so that you

00:47:56.640 have a context

00:47:57.380 of what's

00:47:57.800 going on

00:47:58.200 but let me

00:47:58.500 just say

00:47:58.840 this

00:47:59.240 I think

00:48:01.060 in general

00:48:02.560 you have

00:48:04.280 to remain

00:48:05.120 committed

00:48:05.600 to principle

00:48:06.480 over politics

00:48:08.120 even sometimes

00:48:10.180 when it

00:48:11.060 leads to

00:48:12.020 situations

00:48:12.600 that you

00:48:13.020 may not

00:48:13.400 like

00:48:13.720 the left

00:48:14.660 has not

00:48:15.060 done that

00:48:15.560 and the

00:48:17.380 left

00:48:17.780 in fact

00:48:18.860 let's use

00:48:19.540 Disney

00:48:20.020 examples

00:48:20.800 Roseanne

00:48:22.060 Barr

00:48:22.400 shared a

00:48:23.680 tweet

00:48:24.100 that was

00:48:25.400 deemed

00:48:25.840 to be

00:48:26.340 unacceptable

00:48:27.040 and she

00:48:28.500 was immediately

00:48:29.180 cancelled

00:48:29.940 even though

00:48:30.640 she was on

00:48:31.200 the most

00:48:31.500 popular show

00:48:32.420 on ABC

00:48:33.660 at the time

00:48:34.400 other than

00:48:35.020 sports

00:48:35.440 most popular

00:48:36.100 scripted show

00:48:37.040 and they

00:48:38.720 wrote off

00:48:39.320 her character

00:48:39.940 as dying

00:48:40.680 of a drug

00:48:41.420 overdose

00:48:41.920 Gina Carano

00:48:43.460 was on

00:48:44.540 the most

00:48:44.880 popular

00:48:45.440 streaming show

00:48:46.900 in all of

00:48:48.020 Disney Plus

00:48:48.760 The Mandalorian

00:48:49.700 she shared

00:48:50.840 opinions that

00:48:52.400 were considered

00:48:52.920 to be

00:48:53.240 unacceptable

00:48:53.820 on social

00:48:55.240 media

00:48:55.540 she was

00:48:56.000 fired

00:48:56.360 so

00:48:57.920 when the

00:48:58.840 left

00:48:59.160 has

00:48:59.540 established

00:49:00.300 and when

00:49:01.320 the Disney

00:49:01.860 Corporation

00:49:02.660 has established

00:49:03.800 that their

00:49:04.900 standard of

00:49:05.840 speech is

00:49:06.700 if we

00:49:07.740 decide that

00:49:08.520 it is

00:49:09.160 unacceptable

00:49:09.860 in any

00:49:10.420 way

00:49:10.800 we're gonna

00:49:12.000 fire you

00:49:12.800 I don't think

00:49:13.640 they have any

00:49:14.060 legs to stand

00:49:14.940 on with

00:49:15.400 Jimmy Kimmel

00:49:15.940 I just

00:49:16.720 don't

00:49:17.080 I think

00:49:17.780 they have

00:49:18.220 cut the

00:49:18.780 legitimacy

00:49:19.220 of their

00:49:19.960 arguments

00:49:20.480 out from

00:49:20.900 underneath

00:49:21.220 me

00:49:21.500 now

00:49:21.780 some

00:49:22.160 of you

00:49:22.420 are not

00:49:22.740 going to

00:49:23.000 appreciate

00:49:23.280 this

00:49:23.620 argument

00:49:23.980 but I

00:49:24.700 have made

00:49:24.960 it

00:49:25.100 consistently

00:49:25.600 some of

00:49:26.060 you are

00:49:26.260 going to

00:49:26.440 nod along

00:49:26.860 and say

00:49:27.100 this is

00:49:27.380 important

00:49:27.720 I don't

00:49:29.220 think

00:49:29.380 anybody

00:49:29.680 actually

00:49:30.720 benefits

00:49:31.320 from

00:49:31.960 cancel

00:49:32.580 culture

00:49:33.000 I don't

00:49:34.240 think

00:49:34.420 society

00:49:34.920 benefits

00:49:35.440 from

00:49:35.660 cancel

00:49:35.980 culture

00:49:36.380 I don't

00:49:37.320 think

00:49:37.560 when they

00:49:38.340 tried to

00:49:38.800 cancel

00:49:39.200 Rush

00:49:39.660 that that

00:49:40.160 was a

00:49:40.500 benefit

00:49:40.860 for this

00:49:41.520 show

00:49:41.800 and many

00:49:42.180 of you

00:49:42.520 who listen

00:49:42.840 to Rush

00:49:43.180 know exactly

00:49:43.740 what I'm

00:49:44.060 talking about

00:49:44.640 Rush was

00:49:45.820 at the

00:49:46.200 forefront

00:49:46.560 of cancel

00:49:47.300 culture

00:49:47.720 I

00:49:49.040 not

00:49:49.620 surprisingly

00:49:50.200 to some

00:49:50.580 of you

00:49:50.800 out there

00:49:51.260 people have

00:49:52.140 tried to

00:49:52.500 cancel me

00:49:52.940 for a

00:49:53.220 long time

00:49:53.680 in fact

00:49:54.000 I shared

00:49:54.440 this clip

00:49:55.100 from eight

00:49:56.340 years ago

00:49:56.860 this week

00:49:57.500 when I

00:49:58.320 went on

00:49:58.720 CNN

00:49:59.020 I've been

00:49:59.560 banned

00:49:59.880 from CNN

00:50:00.460 for making

00:50:01.020 a joke

00:50:01.480 when I

00:50:01.800 said hey

00:50:02.160 the only

00:50:02.480 two things

00:50:02.940 I've ever

00:50:03.280 believed in

00:50:03.780 completely

00:50:04.200 are the

00:50:04.660 first amendment

00:50:05.220 and boobs

00:50:05.820 if you haven't

00:50:06.560 heard that

00:50:07.060 here it is

00:50:07.840 CNN has

00:50:08.720 still banned

00:50:09.300 me for

00:50:09.760 that

00:50:10.080 listen

00:50:10.420 I'm a

00:50:11.120 first amendment

00:50:11.720 absolutist

00:50:12.620 I believe

00:50:13.040 in only

00:50:13.360 two things

00:50:13.980 completely

00:50:14.500 the first

00:50:15.440 amendment

00:50:15.800 and boobs

00:50:16.640 and so

00:50:17.580 once they

00:50:18.220 made the

00:50:18.700 decision

00:50:19.220 that they

00:50:19.980 were not

00:50:20.300 going to

00:50:20.720 allow a

00:50:21.260 conservative

00:50:21.860 non-sports

00:50:22.720 related

00:50:23.160 commentary

00:50:23.820 they couldn't

00:50:24.600 do it

00:50:24.900 I just

00:50:26.000 want to

00:50:26.180 make sure

00:50:26.440 I heard

00:50:26.700 you

00:50:26.800 correctly

00:50:27.080 as a

00:50:27.380 woman

00:50:27.560 anchoring

00:50:28.060 the

00:50:28.240 show

00:50:28.400 what did

00:50:29.480 you say

00:50:29.820 you believe

00:50:30.220 in the

00:50:30.380 first amendment

00:50:30.820 and

00:50:31.300 B-O-O-B-S

00:50:32.940 boobs

00:50:33.980 two things

00:50:34.600 that have

00:50:34.800 only never

00:50:35.220 let me

00:50:35.560 down

00:50:36.040 in this

00:50:36.360 entire

00:50:36.700 country's

00:50:37.240 history

00:50:37.500 the first

00:50:37.940 amendment

00:50:38.260 and boobs

00:50:38.880 so those

00:50:39.660 are the

00:50:39.840 only two

00:50:40.180 things

00:50:40.440 I believe

00:50:40.860 in

00:50:41.060 absolutely

00:50:41.500 in the

00:50:41.940 country

00:50:42.300 I just

00:50:42.960 want to

00:50:43.140 make sure

00:50:43.400 I'm

00:50:43.540 hearing

00:50:43.760 you

00:50:43.960 correctly

00:50:44.400 B-O-O-Z-E

00:50:46.020 or B-O-O-B-S

00:50:47.940 because as

00:50:48.520 a woman

00:50:48.960 I'm

00:50:49.720 as in boobs

00:50:51.360 I believe

00:50:51.960 completely

00:50:52.480 in the

00:50:52.880 first amendment

00:50:53.500 and in

00:50:54.380 boobs

00:50:54.660 those are the

00:50:57.080 country

00:50:57.280 and by the

00:50:57.800 way

00:50:58.420 Jamel

00:50:58.780 why would

00:51:01.480 you even

00:51:01.940 say that

00:51:02.500 live on

00:51:03.180 national

00:51:03.680 television

00:51:04.500 and with

00:51:05.000 a female

00:51:05.700 host

00:51:06.480 I say it

00:51:07.520 live on

00:51:07.920 the radio

00:51:08.280 all the time

00:51:08.800 because it's

00:51:09.180 true and

00:51:09.600 that's what

00:51:09.860 I do

00:51:10.260 because I

00:51:11.280 like boobs

00:51:11.880 and the

00:51:12.320 first amendment

00:51:12.880 which is

00:51:13.220 exactly what

00:51:13.700 I said

00:51:14.140 all right

00:51:15.420 so if

00:51:16.180 you haven't

00:51:16.640 seen that

00:51:17.100 clip

00:51:17.560 eight years

00:51:18.520 ago

00:51:18.920 that was

00:51:19.660 the number

00:51:20.000 one trending

00:51:20.600 story in

00:51:21.180 America

00:51:21.540 Brooke

00:51:22.660 Baldwin

00:51:23.060 wrote an

00:51:23.700 editorial

00:51:24.260 essentially

00:51:25.760 demanding

00:51:26.300 that I

00:51:26.680 be

00:51:26.820 fired

00:51:27.260 I

00:51:27.720 was

00:51:27.900 doing

00:51:28.200 sports

00:51:28.620 talk

00:51:28.920 or

00:51:29.060 radio

00:51:29.440 everybody

00:51:30.580 tried

00:51:31.080 to

00:51:31.200 get

00:51:31.340 me

00:51:31.500 fired

00:51:31.860 over

00:51:32.060 that

00:51:32.340 now

00:51:32.980 it's

00:51:33.920 ironic

00:51:34.420 certainly

00:51:35.400 that

00:51:35.880 to make

00:51:36.720 a point

00:51:37.320 about

00:51:37.660 believing

00:51:38.100 in the

00:51:38.460 first

00:51:38.720 amendment

00:51:39.140 I

00:51:39.640 would

00:51:39.840 do

00:51:40.040 it

00:51:40.180 in a

00:51:40.400 humorous

00:51:40.880 way

00:51:41.100 that

00:51:41.280 would

00:51:41.420 get

00:51:41.600 more

00:51:41.840 attention

00:51:42.300 and

00:51:42.800 not

00:51:43.040 immediately

00:51:43.500 apologize

00:51:44.140 to

00:51:44.680 a

00:51:44.900 woman

00:51:45.200 who

00:51:45.820 tried

00:51:46.120 to

00:51:46.300 play

00:51:46.620 the

00:51:46.840 identity

00:51:47.240 politics

00:51:47.880 card

00:51:48.260 live

00:51:48.640 on

00:51:48.880 CNN

00:51:49.220 and

00:51:50.020 tried

00:51:50.240 to

00:51:50.360 get

00:51:50.460 me

00:51:50.600 fired

00:51:50.980 but

00:51:52.120 all

00:51:52.500 of

00:51:52.660 these

00:51:52.840 people

00:51:53.200 that

00:51:53.480 claim

00:51:53.960 now

00:51:56.820 years

00:51:57.100 for

00:51:57.340 Jimmy

00:51:57.620 Kimmel

00:51:58.060 they

00:51:58.700 cheered

00:51:59.220 when

00:51:59.500 Roseanne

00:52:00.020 Barr

00:52:00.360 was

00:52:00.780 fired

00:52:01.280 they

00:52:02.040 cheered

00:52:02.580 when

00:52:02.900 Gina

00:52:03.260 Carano

00:52:03.820 was

00:52:04.200 fired

00:52:04.680 they

00:52:05.340 cheered

00:52:05.840 when

00:52:06.120 Tucker

00:52:06.460 Carlson

00:52:07.180 was

00:52:07.620 taken

00:52:07.960 off

00:52:08.440 the

00:52:08.740 air

00:52:09.080 they

00:52:09.720 would

00:52:10.040 cheer

00:52:10.520 and

00:52:10.860 do

00:52:11.100 cartwheels

00:52:12.000 if

00:52:12.340 I

00:52:12.820 or

00:52:13.100 Buck

00:52:13.440 were

00:52:13.640 taken

00:52:14.020 off

00:52:14.440 the

00:52:14.680 air

00:52:15.040 because

00:52:15.700 they

00:52:16.120 aren't

00:52:16.580 really

00:52:17.000 committed

00:52:17.460 to

00:52:17.720 the

00:52:17.920 first

00:52:18.180 amendment

00:52:18.620 they

00:52:19.380 are

00:52:19.660 committed

00:52:20.160 to

00:52:20.840 removing

00:52:21.640 people

00:52:22.300 they

00:52:22.560 disagree

00:52:23.080 with

00:52:23.520 from

00:52:23.800 the

00:52:24.040 air

00:52:24.340 waves

00:52:24.840 and

00:52:26.040 that's

00:52:26.460 why

00:52:26.820 I

00:52:27.200 think

00:52:27.620 the

00:52:27.900 principle

00:52:28.360 here

00:52:28.740 matters

00:52:29.200 because

00:52:29.600 the

00:52:30.540 politics

00:52:31.000 is

00:52:31.280 constantly

00:52:31.720 going

00:52:31.960 to

00:52:32.080 shift

00:52:32.360 I've

00:52:33.800 said

00:52:34.000 before

00:52:34.500 when

00:52:35.400 Bill

00:52:35.720 Maher

00:52:35.980 got

00:52:36.220 pulled

00:52:36.480 off

00:52:36.740 the

00:52:36.900 air

00:52:37.160 ABC

00:52:37.680 on

00:52:38.180 a

00:52:38.320 show

00:52:38.560 called

00:52:39.020 Politically

00:52:39.580 Incorrect

00:52:40.260 for making

00:52:40.820 politically

00:52:41.320 incorrect

00:52:41.860 comments

00:52:42.420 about

00:52:43.120 terrorists

00:52:43.860 I didn't

00:52:45.340 think that

00:52:45.700 was

00:52:45.880 appropriate

00:52:46.340 now

00:52:46.740 Bill

00:52:46.960 Maher

00:52:47.200 is

00:52:47.320 talented

00:52:47.700 enough

00:52:48.060 that

00:52:48.240 HBO

00:52:48.660 came

00:52:49.060 and

00:52:49.160 they

00:52:49.300 hired

00:52:49.620 him

00:52:49.760 and

00:52:49.840 he's

00:52:49.980 probably

00:52:50.200 got a

00:52:50.500 way

00:52:50.660 better

00:52:50.880 show

00:52:51.140 now

00:52:51.440 than

00:52:51.600 he

00:52:51.720 did

00:52:51.920 when

00:52:52.060 he

00:52:52.160 was

00:52:52.320 at

00:52:52.500 ABC

00:52:52.900 I

00:52:54.460 give

00:52:54.700 credit

00:52:55.060 to

00:52:55.340 the

00:52:55.540 boss

00:52:55.820 that

00:52:56.020 Buck

00:52:56.240 and

00:52:56.340 I

00:52:56.460 have

00:52:56.700 now

00:52:57.040 and

00:52:57.240 the

00:52:57.380 reason

00:52:57.640 that

00:52:57.820 I

00:52:57.920 am

00:52:58.040 sitting

00:52:58.260 talking

00:52:58.580 to

00:52:58.780 all

00:52:58.980 of

00:52:59.120 you

00:52:59.320 Julie

00:52:59.600 Talbot

00:53:00.020 because

00:53:00.700 at

00:53:01.600 iHeart

00:53:02.120 they

00:53:02.360 are

00:53:02.640 committed

00:53:03.120 to

00:53:03.960 allowing

00:53:04.400 people

00:53:04.800 from

00:53:05.020 a

00:53:05.200 wide

00:53:05.540 variety

00:53:06.060 of

00:53:06.660 perspectives

00:53:07.340 to

00:53:07.940 be

00:53:08.060 able

00:53:08.240 to

00:53:08.420 talk

00:53:08.640 to

00:53:08.800 large

00:53:09.160 audiences

00:53:09.720 there's

00:53:10.080 a

00:53:10.180 big

00:53:10.340 difference

00:53:10.720 between

00:53:11.040 what

00:53:11.260 you

00:53:11.420 will

00:53:11.580 hear

00:53:11.760 on

00:53:12.040 this

00:53:12.280 show

00:53:12.560 and

00:53:13.120 what

00:53:13.360 Charlemagne

00:53:13.860 the

00:53:14.000 God

00:53:14.240 will

00:53:14.420 say

00:53:14.740 or

00:53:15.240 what

00:53:15.500 Bobby

00:53:22.500 that's

00:53:23.240 how

00:53:23.400 the

00:53:23.600 country

00:53:24.000 should

00:53:24.420 be

00:53:24.700 you

00:53:25.780 should

00:53:26.040 be

00:53:26.240 able

00:53:26.480 to

00:53:26.660 go

00:53:26.880 out

00:53:27.160 and

00:53:27.620 and

00:53:28.260 and

00:53:28.560 be

00:53:28.760 exposed

00:53:29.240 to

00:53:29.520 the

00:53:29.740 largest

00:53:30.360 possible

00:53:30.960 collection

00:53:31.540 of

00:53:31.780 arguments

00:53:32.200 out

00:53:32.540 there

00:53:32.800 and

00:53:33.620 the

00:53:33.780 largest

00:53:34.140 possible

00:53:34.680 collection

00:53:35.160 of

00:53:35.360 entertainers

00:53:36.000 now

00:53:36.560 here

00:53:37.200 is

00:53:37.360 my

00:53:37.560 take

00:53:37.900 on

00:53:38.240 why

00:53:38.580 I

00:53:38.780 don't

00:53:39.140 necessarily

00:53:39.740 agree

00:53:40.260 with

00:53:40.480 the way

00:53:40.760 all

00:53:40.940 this

00:53:41.080 went

00:53:41.260 down

00:53:41.560 I

00:53:42.420 think

00:53:42.740 firing

00:53:43.360 someone

00:53:44.080 because

00:53:44.900 of

00:53:45.600 something

00:53:46.060 that

00:53:46.400 they

00:53:46.600 said

00:53:46.940 on

00:53:47.260 air

00:53:47.640 is

00:53:49.020 a

00:53:49.340 form

00:53:49.660 of

00:53:49.840 cancel

00:53:50.140 culture

00:53:50.620 for

00:53:51.020 sure

00:53:51.420 if

00:53:52.500 do

00:53:52.660 not

00:53:52.920 believe

00:53:53.300 that

00:53:53.540 Jimmy

00:53:53.760 Kimmel's

00:53:54.220 show

00:53:54.420 is

00:53:54.580 worthy

00:53:54.900 of

00:53:55.120 being

00:53:55.320 on

00:53:55.560 the

00:53:55.700 air

00:53:55.920 just

00:53:56.160 pull

00:53:56.420 it

00:53:56.580 they

00:53:57.580 didn't

00:53:57.900 pull

00:53:58.200 Stephen

00:53:58.660 Colbert

00:53:59.140 directly

00:53:59.820 because

00:54:00.220 of

00:54:00.560 something

00:54:00.860 he

00:54:01.060 said

00:54:01.240 on

00:54:01.380 the

00:54:01.500 air

00:54:01.660 they

00:54:01.800 said

00:54:01.980 he's

00:54:02.120 losing

00:54:02.400 40

00:54:02.760 million

00:54:03.040 dollars

00:54:03.380 a

00:54:03.500 year

00:54:03.620 we

00:54:03.760 don't

00:54:03.880 want

00:54:04.000 to

00:54:04.060 be

00:54:04.140 in

00:54:04.240 this

00:54:04.380 business

00:54:04.700 anymore

00:54:05.060 I

00:54:06.380 think

00:54:06.580 we

00:54:06.780 all

00:54:07.360 all

00:54:07.960 of

00:54:08.120 us

00:54:08.380 actually

00:54:09.240 end

00:54:09.540 up

00:54:09.720 in

00:54:09.800 a

00:54:09.960 worse

00:54:10.220 place

00:54:10.800 when

00:54:11.760 we

00:54:12.560 are

00:54:12.720 saying

00:54:13.080 you

00:54:13.320 can't

00:54:13.680 make

00:54:13.860 that

00:54:14.120 joke

00:54:14.480 that's

00:54:14.900 offensive

00:54:15.300 you

00:54:15.660 can't

00:54:16.000 use

00:54:16.240 that

00:54:16.500 word

00:54:16.800 in

00:54:16.940 that

00:54:17.140 context

00:54:17.720 all

00:54:18.360 of

00:54:18.540 these

00:54:18.760 things

00:54:19.300 I

00:54:19.700 think

00:54:19.960 actually

00:54:20.500 limit

00:54:21.080 the

00:54:21.640 larger

00:54:22.140 scope

00:54:22.900 of

00:54:23.300 discussion

00:54:23.800 in

00:54:24.020 this

00:54:24.180 country

00:54:24.480 so

00:54:24.920 I'm

00:54:25.160 probably

00:54:25.560 going to

00:54:25.840 be

00:54:25.940 the

00:54:26.120 only

00:54:26.320 person

00:54:26.660 on

00:54:26.840 the

00:54:26.960 planet

00:54:27.320 who

00:54:27.900 said

00:54:28.240 wrong

00:54:28.880 decision

00:54:29.300 on

00:54:29.580 Roseanne

00:54:30.140 wrong

00:54:30.860 decision

00:54:31.340 on

00:54:31.780 Gina

00:54:32.080 Carano

00:54:32.560 and

00:54:33.140 I

00:54:33.360 think

00:54:33.640 wrong

00:54:33.980 decision

00:54:34.420 on

00:54:34.800 the

00:54:34.960 timing

00:54:35.280 surrounding

00:54:35.820 Jimmy

00:54:36.120 Kimmel

00:54:36.460 now

00:54:37.280 I

00:54:38.720 have

00:54:38.920 tons

00:54:39.460 of

00:54:39.680 thoughts

00:54:40.020 and

00:54:40.220 we

00:54:40.340 talked

00:54:40.580 about

00:54:40.740 it

00:54:40.840 a lot

00:54:41.060 on

00:54:41.180 the

00:54:41.280 program

00:54:41.740 about

00:54:42.360 the

00:54:42.640 decline

00:54:43.040 of

00:54:43.220 late

00:54:43.420 night

00:54:43.620 television

00:54:44.120 and

00:54:45.340 the

00:54:45.480 fact

00:54:45.680 that

00:54:45.880 basically

00:54:46.400 all

00:54:47.180 late

00:54:47.420 night

00:54:47.660 television

00:54:48.220 turned

00:54:48.780 into

00:54:49.320 left

00:54:50.120 wing

00:54:50.400 propaganda

00:54:51.080 where

00:54:51.500 you

00:54:51.640 can

00:54:51.780 only

00:54:51.960 make

00:54:52.180 fun

00:54:52.420 of

00:54:52.540 one

00:54:52.780 side

00:54:53.280 and

00:54:53.860 as

00:54:54.060 a

00:54:54.200 result

00:54:54.500 they

00:54:54.720 destroyed

00:54:55.140 their

00:54:55.340 business

00:54:55.660 in

00:54:55.860 the

00:54:55.960 process

00:54:56.440 that

00:54:58.360 I

00:54:59.300 have

00:54:59.460 no

00:54:59.640 issue

00:54:59.920 with

00:55:00.220 if

00:55:01.020 tomorrow

00:55:01.680 I

00:55:03.080 heart

00:55:03.320 decided

00:55:03.820 hey

00:55:04.080 you

00:55:04.180 know

00:55:04.320 what

00:55:04.580 Clay

00:55:05.700 you

00:55:05.900 and

00:55:06.020 Buck

00:55:06.300 your

00:55:06.680 show

00:55:06.900 is

00:55:06.980 not

00:55:07.140 highly

00:55:07.460 rated

00:55:08.840 enough

00:55:09.160 you

00:55:09.240 are

00:55:09.320 not

00:55:09.440 making

00:55:09.680 us

00:55:09.940 enough

00:55:10.180 money

00:55:10.500 we

00:55:11.200 have

00:55:11.340 to

00:55:11.420 move

00:55:11.600 on

00:55:11.900 I

00:55:12.180 say

00:55:12.380 hey

00:55:12.600 you

00:55:12.780 know

00:55:12.880 what

00:55:13.020 that's

00:55:13.220 a

00:55:13.320 business

00:55:13.540 imperative

00:55:14.020 by the

00:55:14.900 way

00:55:15.020 thanks

00:55:15.260 to

00:55:15.400 you

00:55:15.520 guys

00:55:15.760 that's

00:55:15.980 not

00:55:16.120 the

00:55:16.260 case

00:55:16.500 in

00:55:16.840 fact

00:55:16.980 we

00:55:17.100 just

00:55:17.240 found

00:55:17.420 out

00:55:17.580 yesterday

00:55:17.920 ratings

00:55:18.360 are up

00:55:18.620 25%

00:55:19.400 over

00:55:19.640 last

00:55:19.980 year

00:55:20.200 that's

00:55:20.580 pretty

00:55:20.760 damn

00:55:20.920 good

00:55:21.160 thank

00:55:21.600 you

00:55:21.760 but

00:55:22.800 that's

00:55:23.660 the

00:55:23.820 business

00:55:24.140 we're

00:55:24.440 in

00:55:24.680 if

00:55:25.700 you

00:55:25.880 don't

00:55:26.080 make

00:55:26.280 your

00:55:35.900 had

00:55:36.120 the

00:55:36.280 chutzpah

00:55:36.660 to

00:55:37.120 come

00:55:37.340 forward

00:55:37.620 and

00:55:37.800 say

00:55:37.940 you

00:55:38.060 know

00:55:38.140 what

00:55:38.320 we're

00:55:38.460 not

00:55:38.600 getting

00:55:38.800 a

00:55:38.920 great

00:55:39.160 rating

00:55:39.500 in

00:55:39.680 this

00:55:39.840 hour

00:55:40.140 we

00:55:40.980 think

00:55:41.200 it's

00:55:41.380 time

00:55:41.600 to

00:55:41.740 move

00:55:41.920 on

00:55:42.140 and

00:55:42.260 try

00:55:42.440 something

00:55:42.760 new

00:55:43.060 in

00:55:43.240 that

00:55:43.420 hour

00:55:43.820 with

00:55:44.100 ABC

00:55:44.480 we

00:55:44.800 think

00:55:44.980 we

00:55:45.080 can

00:55:45.220 make

00:55:45.380 more

00:55:45.580 money

00:55:45.820 doing

00:55:46.080 something

00:55:46.380 else

00:55:46.640 I

00:55:46.840 would

00:55:46.980 have

00:55:47.080 said

00:55:47.280 hey

00:55:47.700 you

00:55:47.800 know

00:55:47.900 what

00:55:48.080 more

00:55:48.260 power

00:55:48.540 to

00:55:48.780 you

00:55:48.960 I

00:55:49.540 think

00:55:49.720 deciding

00:55:50.360 to pull

00:55:51.480 him

00:55:51.860 based

00:55:52.660 on

00:55:52.920 comments

00:55:53.500 ultimately

00:55:54.100 is not

00:55:54.540 beneficial

00:55:54.960 and some

00:55:56.020 of you

00:56:05.900 because

00:56:06.080 of

00:56:06.220 what

00:56:06.340 I

00:56:06.440 did

00:56:06.580 eight

00:56:06.760 years

00:56:07.020 ago

00:56:07.300 when

00:56:07.780 they

00:56:07.920 came

00:56:08.160 for

00:56:08.380 me

00:56:08.560 I

00:56:08.800 like

00:56:09.020 to

00:56:09.160 think

00:56:09.340 that

00:56:09.500 I'm

00:56:09.660 somewhat

00:56:10.000 uncancellable

00:56:10.840 I'd like

00:56:11.300 to think

00:56:11.580 that buck

00:56:11.960 is somewhat

00:56:12.400 uncancellable

00:56:13.280 but when

00:56:14.160 you set

00:56:14.700 the precedent

00:56:15.380 that what

00:56:16.420 people say

00:56:17.240 on live

00:56:17.980 shows

00:56:18.640 can lead

00:56:19.540 to them

00:56:20.060 losing

00:56:20.460 their job

00:56:21.100 immediately

00:56:21.720 it's never

00:56:22.760 going to

00:56:23.360 stop

00:56:23.760 right

00:56:24.340 and that's

00:56:24.860 what the

00:56:25.180 left is

00:56:25.620 learning

00:56:25.940 right now

00:56:26.500 they made

00:56:27.300 these rules

00:56:28.060 and now

00:56:28.860 they're looking

00:56:29.340 around and

00:56:29.800 saying wait

00:56:30.140 a minute

00:56:30.300 I don't like

00:56:30.820 these rules

00:56:31.300 this is why

00:56:31.800 people like

00:56:32.260 me have

00:56:32.600 been saying

00:56:33.060 ultimately

00:56:33.780 the precedent

00:56:34.980 is going

00:56:35.620 to blow

00:56:36.160 up on

00:56:36.600 YouTube

00:56:36.940 and so

00:56:38.520 there are

00:56:39.060 going to

00:56:39.560 be at

00:56:39.940 some point

00:56:40.360 in time

00:56:40.720 might be

00:56:41.020 eight years

00:56:41.420 from now

00:56:41.780 might be

00:56:42.600 ten years

00:56:43.040 from now

00:56:43.400 but if

00:56:44.040 we establish

00:56:44.700 the precedent

00:56:45.480 of if

00:56:46.140 someone says

00:56:46.980 something I

00:56:47.760 don't like

00:56:48.400 they can't

00:56:49.000 make a living

00:56:49.700 doing that

00:56:50.300 job anymore

00:56:51.060 eventually

00:56:52.000 it's going

00:56:52.460 to boomerang

00:56:52.980 back on the

00:56:53.600 right just

00:56:54.460 like it's

00:56:54.860 boomeranging

00:56:55.300 back on the

00:56:55.940 left right

00:56:56.420 now and

00:56:57.120 I'm going

00:56:57.340 to be the

00:56:57.600 guy sitting

00:56:58.060 back saying

00:56:58.580 hey I

00:56:58.900 don't think

00:56:59.200 that's the

00:56:59.540 right decision

00:57:00.100 and I'm

00:57:01.800 going to

00:57:02.280 stand on

00:57:03.220 principle

00:57:03.720 over the

00:57:04.440 politics of

00:57:05.120 the moment

00:57:05.520 now again

00:57:07.440 if CBS

00:57:09.140 when CBS

00:57:09.600 made the

00:57:09.980 decision hey

00:57:10.520 Colbert's

00:57:11.000 gone we're

00:57:11.500 losing 40

00:57:12.060 million dollars

00:57:12.600 a year I

00:57:13.080 think that's a

00:57:13.600 rational reasonable

00:57:14.580 choice that they

00:57:15.380 could make I'm a

00:57:16.160 business guy I ran

00:57:17.120 a media business

00:57:17.960 there are people

00:57:19.120 we've had to

00:57:19.640 move on from

00:57:20.620 because we

00:57:21.720 can't afford

00:57:22.120 their salary

00:57:22.680 because they're

00:57:23.160 not actually

00:57:23.800 making us

00:57:24.260 money you

00:57:24.640 heard Stephen

00:57:25.220 A and I

00:57:25.580 have this

00:57:25.940 exact discussion

00:57:26.760 on Tuesday

00:57:27.320 where he said

00:57:28.840 ultimately all

00:57:29.580 of our jobs

00:57:30.120 come down to

00:57:30.740 are we making

00:57:31.300 bosses

00:57:31.800 money and

00:57:33.180 if you're

00:57:33.600 not you're

00:57:34.060 not going

00:57:34.320 to be

00:57:34.480 employed very

00:57:35.020 long this

00:57:35.640 is not

00:57:36.100 however to

00:57:36.740 me a

00:57:37.120 first amendment

00:57:37.720 issue it's

00:57:39.280 a creative

00:57:39.780 freedom issue

00:57:40.560 because nobody

00:57:41.600 is keeping

00:57:42.220 Jimmy Kimmel

00:57:43.340 from coming

00:57:44.360 out and

00:57:45.060 saying exactly

00:57:45.880 what he

00:57:46.300 thinks in

00:57:47.300 any other

00:57:47.720 form he

00:57:48.320 can start a

00:57:48.740 podcast he

00:57:49.460 can start a

00:57:49.900 YouTube channel

00:57:50.620 same thing for

00:57:51.780 Stephen Colbert

00:57:52.540 look at what

00:57:53.600 Tucker did when

00:57:54.340 Fox News took

00:57:55.060 him off the

00:57:55.520 air it has

00:57:56.760 never been

00:57:57.360 easier for the

00:57:58.840 name on the

00:57:59.600 back of the

00:58:00.220 jersey to be

00:58:01.360 able to be

00:58:01.900 followed

00:58:02.260 anywhere so

00:58:04.080 I just I

00:58:04.980 don't buy

00:58:05.480 into this

00:58:05.920 idea of oh

00:58:06.520 my god this

00:58:07.080 is the biggest

00:58:07.520 attack on the

00:58:08.180 first amendment

00:58:08.640 that we've ever

00:58:09.200 seen you know

00:58:09.720 what a real

00:58:10.140 attack on the

00:58:10.700 first amendment

00:58:11.140 would look like

00:58:11.860 murdering somebody

00:58:13.100 in cold blood

00:58:13.940 while they're at

00:58:14.460 a free speech

00:58:15.100 event because you

00:58:15.620 don't like what

00:58:16.760 they are saying

00:58:17.520 which is exactly

00:58:18.560 what happened to

00:58:19.340 Charlie Kirk and

00:58:20.500 it's why there

00:58:21.920 is a strong

00:58:22.480 argument to be

00:58:23.200 made that part

00:58:24.060 of the sickness

00:58:24.820 that afflicts the

00:58:25.780 left in this

00:58:26.380 country is they

00:58:27.460 are more outspoken

00:58:28.540 about a comedian

00:58:29.300 not being able

00:58:30.200 to continue on

00:58:31.140 his late night

00:58:31.820 comedy show than

00:58:33.260 they are a dad

00:58:34.520 being assassinated

00:58:35.460 in cold blood at

00:58:36.420 a free speech

00:58:36.980 event one of

00:58:38.320 those is a

00:58:39.280 significant threat

00:58:40.180 to free speech

00:58:41.020 in America that

00:58:42.220 is Charlie Kirk's

00:58:43.000 assassination the

00:58:44.340 other is just a

00:58:46.440 debate about where

00:58:48.120 a person should go

00:58:49.360 to share his or

00:58:50.720 her opinions it

00:58:52.080 has never been

00:58:52.720 easier for everybody

00:58:53.940 in America to

00:58:54.620 share their opinions

00:58:55.360 than it is today

00:58:56.040 I'll take some of

00:58:56.860 your calls I'll

00:58:57.400 take some of your

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00:59:23.960 youngest Nash

00:59:24.840 he's in fifth grade

00:59:26.520 we don't want to

00:59:27.440 get him a cell

00:59:28.040 phone yet we

00:59:29.060 will give him

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00:59:37.300 so we can stay in

00:59:38.520 touch with him but

00:59:39.240 he can still be able

00:59:40.100 to play with his

00:59:40.740 friends but he's

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00:59:43.620 on social media

00:59:44.900 we use it he

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