Verdict with Ted Cruz - September 04, 2025


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The NFL is back, the stock market is on fire, and American Eagle s stock is on the rise. Clay and Buck discuss all that and much more on today s episode of the show. Plus, Katie Miller joins the show to talk about her new podcast.

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
00:00:02.620 Guaranteed human.
00:00:04.400 Welcome in the Thursday edition.
00:00:07.020 Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show.
00:00:09.220 I don't know if Buck knows this, but the NFL is back.
00:00:12.040 And a lot of you are going to be watching tonight.
00:00:15.280 A lot of you watched the Texas and Ohio State game.
00:00:20.240 Buck, I don't know if this is a good or bad thing for you,
00:00:22.500 but football is setting all-time record ratings,
00:00:26.300 the likes of which have never been seen before.
00:00:29.160 And I've got a theory on what it represents,
00:00:31.380 and it ties in with another fun story
00:00:34.320 that I thought we could jump into here.
00:00:36.860 And it ties in with the cultural pendulum
00:00:40.000 having swung in a massive direction back to sanity.
00:00:46.420 And I think you have to give Donald Trump
00:00:48.760 a lot of credit for this,
00:00:51.300 but I think he is symptomatic
00:00:53.740 of where the country is moving.
00:00:56.240 And I've got a bunch of takes on this
00:00:59.060 as the data comes out.
00:01:00.180 Let me give you an idea of where we're headed, by the way.
00:01:02.040 In the third hour, we've got a couple of fun guests for you.
00:01:05.000 Katie Miller, she has got a brand new podcast.
00:01:07.960 She is interviewing a lot of people.
00:01:09.440 She was Elon Musk's top assistant in the White House.
00:01:13.780 She is the wife of Stephen Miller,
00:01:15.540 who many of you have heard on this program
00:01:17.900 for a very long time.
00:01:19.340 Among the most influential advisors in the White House.
00:01:23.280 Deputy Chief of Staff, I think,
00:01:24.800 is his official title beneath Susie Wiles.
00:01:28.240 She is going to be on with us in the third hour 0.80
00:01:29.960 to talk about some of these cultural trends.
00:01:32.320 2.30, part of the Clay and Buck Podcast Network.
00:01:35.260 Dr. Nicole Sapphire.
00:01:36.980 Many of you obviously see her on Fox News
00:01:39.180 on a regular basis as well.
00:01:40.680 She will join us.
00:01:41.520 So that has all come in the third hour.
00:01:43.620 But this morning, Buck,
00:01:44.640 as I was getting ready for the show,
00:01:47.800 as I was walking my fifth grader to school,
00:01:50.960 as I do most mornings,
00:01:53.200 the stock market opened.
00:01:55.760 I looked down at my phone.
00:01:57.820 I knew it was going to be a big pop out of the gate.
00:02:01.780 But American Eagle stock,
00:02:04.960 for those of you who saw the Sidney Sweeney advertisements
00:02:09.240 and just said,
00:02:10.300 you know what?
00:02:11.380 I think a pretty girl in jeans 1.00
00:02:13.700 and a company that is not apologizing for it
00:02:17.040 is likely to do well.
00:02:19.280 Last night, American Eagle said
00:02:22.040 their Sidney Sweeney ad campaign
00:02:25.180 is so successful
00:02:26.540 that they are now increasing
00:02:29.180 their earnings expectations
00:02:31.720 and their profit expectations.
00:02:34.740 And the stock, as I speak to you all today,
00:02:37.860 is up 32.5% today alone.
00:02:43.700 The stock up $4.5.
00:02:46.860 So if you just heard us
00:02:49.320 talking about this advertisement,
00:02:51.540 if you just saw them talking about it on Fox News
00:02:54.400 and you thought to yourself,
00:02:55.760 you know what?
00:02:57.020 A pretty girl in jeans 0.99
00:02:59.320 seems like a pretty good idea.
00:03:02.260 And then as you saw all the controversy
00:03:04.900 stirred up on the left,
00:03:07.240 people saying,
00:03:08.200 oh, this is eugenics. 0.53
00:03:09.580 Maybe we can go back and pull
00:03:10.980 the ABC Good Morning America story
00:03:14.440 where they put on the expert to say,
00:03:16.200 oh, this is very troubling.
00:03:17.540 This is calling a blonde hair,
00:03:19.500 blue eyed girl
00:03:20.320 saying she has good genes
00:03:22.260 as a pun on J-E-A-N-S, 0.96
00:03:26.000 G-E-N-E-S, 1.00
00:03:28.040 a clear double entendre there. 0.96
00:03:29.980 If you thought this is all ridiculous, 0.88
00:03:32.340 this is going to work, 0.70
00:03:34.300 I give credit to American Eagle.
00:03:36.200 They didn't run and hide.
00:03:37.900 I know because my grandma,
00:03:39.920 grandma of my kids,
00:03:41.260 my mom,
00:03:42.520 took a picture of my son
00:03:45.100 at back to school season
00:03:46.660 standing in front of a Sidney Sweeney ad.
00:03:50.460 I know that even grandmas
00:03:51.780 were aware of this ad campaign.
00:03:54.100 And maybe some of you out there,
00:03:55.480 you bought your kids
00:03:57.320 and your grandkids
00:03:58.620 American Eagle gear
00:04:00.540 just to make a statement on this.
00:04:02.620 Buck,
00:04:03.480 I do think
00:04:04.380 that this is a sign
00:04:06.160 of the culture shift
00:04:07.760 having occurred
00:04:08.680 in a big way.
00:04:10.140 I think the popularity
00:04:11.200 of football
00:04:12.020 going through the roof
00:04:13.360 ratings-wise,
00:04:14.440 I think it's directly connected
00:04:15.800 to this.
00:04:16.800 Pretty girls,
00:04:18.120 sports,
00:04:19.100 it's all coming back together again.
00:04:21.360 It never left popularity,
00:04:22.880 but they wanted to tell us
00:04:24.540 that fat androgynous model 1.00
00:04:26.540 is going to sell lingerie. 0.99
00:04:28.700 Guess what?
00:04:29.660 America's not crazy.
00:04:31.180 People like football.
00:04:32.360 They like pretty girls. 1.00
00:04:33.700 And my goodness,
00:04:34.660 you could have made
00:04:35.160 a lot of money
00:04:35.700 by betting on both.
00:04:37.220 Well,
00:04:37.480 I want to find out
00:04:38.240 what the next company is
00:04:39.560 that plans to just do
00:04:41.260 an old-school,
00:04:42.120 all-Americana,
00:04:43.900 good-feeling ad.
00:04:45.960 I mean,
00:04:46.300 it seems like a,
00:04:48.160 you know,
00:04:48.460 Clay,
00:04:48.840 as you know,
00:04:49.420 we've talked about
00:04:50.220 marketing execs,
00:04:51.660 Madison Avenue ad execs
00:04:53.380 are among the most woke
00:04:55.920 as a profession,
00:04:57.720 most woke individuals
00:04:58.560 you'll find anywhere.
00:04:59.440 I mean,
00:04:59.560 they're really up there
00:05:00.360 with like Broadway choreographers
00:05:01.980 in terms of their politics.
00:05:03.180 And they are living
00:05:04.460 in some other planet.
00:05:06.120 And I think because of
00:05:07.360 America's overall prosperity,
00:05:09.380 the dominance of many
00:05:10.480 American companies,
00:05:11.280 they've been able to get away
00:05:12.260 with their ideological
00:05:14.440 decisions,
00:05:17.280 ideologically based decisions
00:05:18.380 instead of what's based
00:05:18.960 for the company
00:05:19.340 for a long time.
00:05:19.980 That perhaps
00:05:21.600 is in the early stages
00:05:22.900 of changing.
00:05:23.860 We shall see.
00:05:24.500 I will say
00:05:25.260 I haven't seen a change
00:05:27.120 in the advertising
00:05:27.840 kind of companies,
00:05:29.500 I should say,
00:05:30.060 the kind of companies
00:05:30.780 advertising
00:05:31.320 and conservative media
00:05:32.700 haven't seen
00:05:33.700 that happen yet.
00:05:35.240 We were hearing,
00:05:36.920 you know,
00:05:37.820 early rumbles
00:05:38.620 that this may go on.
00:05:40.080 And now I think
00:05:41.220 there's a little more
00:05:41.760 of a wait and see
00:05:42.760 Trump's first year.
00:05:44.200 Let's see if he stays
00:05:45.120 focused and stays on it.
00:05:46.540 But I think that consumers
00:05:49.440 and the American people
00:05:50.180 need to continue to push.
00:05:52.000 And that just means
00:05:52.680 be vocal about your preferences
00:05:54.500 and put your dollars
00:05:55.740 where your heart is.
00:05:56.540 Actually make decisions
00:05:57.780 based upon
00:05:58.520 where companies align
00:06:00.920 with your values.
00:06:01.940 And in some cases,
00:06:02.600 it's just fun
00:06:03.660 and liking America
00:06:05.040 and wanting to sell
00:06:05.940 a good product.
00:06:06.820 That can align
00:06:07.900 with your values.
00:06:08.560 It doesn't have to be,
00:06:09.800 you know,
00:06:10.160 everything is draped
00:06:11.000 in an American flag
00:06:12.040 and talks about
00:06:12.660 defeating the communists,
00:06:13.620 although that's fine too.
00:06:14.480 But just here trying to use
00:06:17.000 the old,
00:06:18.660 the oldest trick
00:06:19.760 in the marketing book,
00:06:20.920 a beautiful woman
00:06:21.840 selling a product
00:06:22.740 to people
00:06:23.500 that they will like.
00:06:24.960 It turns out
00:06:25.880 that still works
00:06:26.860 if you're willing to do it.
00:06:27.920 It certainly works better
00:06:29.080 than a 300 pound
00:06:30.500 androgynous
00:06:31.520 purple hair,
00:06:33.540 ear plugged,
00:06:34.620 you know,
00:06:35.920 whatever we're dealing with.
00:06:37.160 It's crazy.
00:06:38.140 I do think
00:06:39.680 that the retreat
00:06:41.100 that you saw
00:06:41.920 from Cracker Barrel
00:06:43.080 and this is where
00:06:45.040 the impact
00:06:45.740 of Bud Light
00:06:46.460 really comes in
00:06:47.420 because I've heard
00:06:48.480 so many people
00:06:49.300 out there,
00:06:49.980 they get sometimes upset
00:06:51.920 when we talk
00:06:53.260 about culture,
00:06:54.360 not just on this program,
00:06:55.860 but on all programs.
00:06:57.160 And they're like,
00:06:58.060 tell me more
00:06:58.880 about the tax plan
00:07:01.340 for small businesses.
00:07:03.460 And I'm like,
00:07:04.460 okay,
00:07:05.460 yeah,
00:07:05.820 I mean,
00:07:06.620 I'm in favor
00:07:07.540 of lower taxes,
00:07:08.520 all these things,
00:07:09.780 but culture
00:07:11.020 is how you win.
00:07:11.960 I'm sorry,
00:07:13.620 culture,
00:07:14.340 culture,
00:07:14.920 culture.
00:07:15.380 The older I get
00:07:16.440 in all facets,
00:07:18.420 your company's culture
00:07:19.620 is how you win.
00:07:20.900 Your team,
00:07:22.160 both as a actual
00:07:24.200 athletic team
00:07:26.120 and just the team
00:07:27.600 around you,
00:07:28.380 your family,
00:07:29.640 culture is how you win.
00:07:31.520 Culture,
00:07:32.220 culture,
00:07:32.840 culture.
00:07:33.780 And you have to win culture.
00:07:36.360 And what I am seeing
00:07:37.520 right now is,
00:07:38.540 Buck's point,
00:07:39.000 I told you guys
00:07:39.900 this about FanDuel
00:07:40.720 yesterday and I got
00:07:41.480 a lot of reaction
00:07:42.320 to it.
00:07:43.640 I don't think
00:07:44.460 most people
00:07:44.960 outside of media
00:07:45.860 understand that
00:07:47.000 the advertising
00:07:47.920 agencies are
00:07:49.860 the wokest part
00:07:51.360 of American life
00:07:52.660 and they are
00:07:53.660 the bottleneck
00:07:54.740 that is putting
00:07:55.940 all this ridiculousness, 0.51
00:07:57.740 I would argue, 0.99
00:07:58.440 a lot of it is filth,
00:07:59.920 out into the larger
00:08:01.320 cultural arena
00:08:02.360 because they control
00:08:04.380 so much of the access
00:08:06.480 to the marketplace
00:08:07.420 and they were the ones
00:08:09.100 pushing all this
00:08:10.020 androgynous models,
00:08:11.520 all this,
00:08:12.200 hey, being 350 pounds,
00:08:14.280 that's how we should
00:08:15.080 sell athletic gear.
00:08:16.540 Hey, let's put
00:08:17.040 an actual man
00:08:18.220 in a Nike sports bra
00:08:20.380 and let's say,
00:08:22.080 hey, girls, 0.99
00:08:22.940 go buy Nike sports bras
00:08:24.480 to work out in.
00:08:25.200 I mean, these are the ads
00:08:26.080 that they were putting in.
00:08:26.900 They're the reason Bud Light
00:08:28.060 put this trans influencer
00:08:29.980 on a can in the first place. 1.00
00:08:31.880 We have to destroy them. 1.00
00:08:34.340 We have to destroy them. 1.00
00:08:35.640 And I understand 1.00
00:08:36.160 there's a lot of cowardice
00:08:37.340 out there,
00:08:37.900 but that's how you win culture.
00:08:40.080 That is how you go back
00:08:41.720 to some form of normalcy
00:08:43.280 in American life.
00:08:45.020 And I think that
00:08:46.100 it's incumbent upon everybody
00:08:47.420 to remember this
00:08:48.400 as they're making
00:08:48.960 their decisions.
00:08:50.660 And, you know,
00:08:51.500 we talk about Crockett Coffee
00:08:52.680 here on the show
00:08:53.620 and how we're already,
00:08:55.740 you know,
00:08:56.020 some of you listen to Joe Paggs.
00:08:58.040 Joe Paggs is selling
00:08:58.900 Crockett Coffee
00:08:59.760 and Ben Ferguson
00:09:00.640 is selling Crockett Coffee.
00:09:01.880 You know,
00:09:02.220 we're putting money
00:09:03.040 into the broader
00:09:03.720 conservative media economy
00:09:05.780 because Clay and I
00:09:06.800 remember what it was like.
00:09:07.800 I remember in the early days
00:09:09.320 sponsors that would come on,
00:09:11.120 you have the same thing,
00:09:12.040 sponsors that would stand with you,
00:09:13.800 they felt like family.
00:09:15.100 And that's one of the reasons
00:09:15.860 why we're so attached
00:09:17.000 to many of our long-time sponsors
00:09:18.400 here on this show
00:09:19.360 because they're with us
00:09:21.180 shoulder to shoulder.
00:09:22.000 Yeah,
00:09:22.160 they're trying to offer up
00:09:23.240 great products to all of you,
00:09:24.920 but they make a,
00:09:25.940 be very clear about this.
00:09:27.280 And I don't ever want
00:09:28.320 to make it feel like
00:09:29.020 this is something
00:09:29.480 we don't talk about.
00:09:30.280 They make every sponsor
00:09:32.100 on this and other
00:09:33.100 conservative programs
00:09:34.040 out there,
00:09:34.520 they make a decision
00:09:35.660 to stand with you,
00:09:38.160 all of you,
00:09:39.180 and your values
00:09:40.180 because there are
00:09:40.900 a lot of companies
00:09:41.880 out there
00:09:42.400 that we would make
00:09:43.360 a ton of money for
00:09:44.660 by just telling you
00:09:45.880 about their great products.
00:09:47.240 And they're like,
00:09:48.040 I'm sorry,
00:09:49.000 have you heard
00:09:49.540 what Clay Travis says
00:09:50.660 about trans guys
00:09:51.780 playing on women's field hockey?
00:09:53.640 Have you heard
00:09:54.160 what Buck Sexton said
00:09:55.420 about COVID lockdowns
00:09:56.940 and Fauci?
00:09:57.520 And I'm,
00:09:59.100 that is the God's honest truth.
00:10:00.480 That is exactly
00:10:01.100 what goes on.
00:10:02.620 This is one where
00:10:04.240 strategically,
00:10:05.960 the left understands
00:10:07.520 how to win culture better.
00:10:09.420 They created,
00:10:10.760 and again,
00:10:11.160 we're taking you
00:10:11.860 into the weeds
00:10:12.460 a little bit,
00:10:13.020 but I think it's important
00:10:13.840 for you guys
00:10:14.620 to understand it
00:10:15.420 and certainly Rush
00:10:16.320 lived through it
00:10:17.280 because some of the creation
00:10:18.420 of these groups
00:10:19.340 were designed
00:10:20.360 to try to destroy
00:10:21.540 Rush's show,
00:10:22.380 as many of you
00:10:23.040 well remember.
00:10:24.840 The left created
00:10:26.280 entire companies
00:10:27.900 that they're,
00:10:29.620 all they did
00:10:30.620 was reach out
00:10:31.840 to big brand advertisers
00:10:33.500 and say,
00:10:34.600 are you sure
00:10:35.680 you want to be affiliated
00:10:37.040 with this conservative?
00:10:39.420 By the way,
00:10:40.060 very broadly defined conservative
00:10:42.160 because I did a sports talk show
00:10:43.900 and I had FanDuel cancel on me
00:10:47.200 over saying men
00:10:48.800 can't be in women's sports. 1.00
00:10:50.920 I mean,
00:10:51.760 how many sports gamblers
00:10:52.940 do you think in America
00:10:54.600 believe that men
00:10:56.720 should be able to compete
00:10:57.880 in women's sports? 1.00
00:10:59.160 I generally don't think
00:11:00.500 the guys who are paying
00:11:01.320 really close attention
00:11:02.280 to which pony's
00:11:03.100 going to come in first
00:11:04.020 or which touchdown
00:11:05.140 is going to be the game winner
00:11:06.520 sitting there
00:11:07.540 chomping their cigars
00:11:08.420 like,
00:11:08.780 you know what we really need?
00:11:09.900 More future is female t-shirts. 1.00
00:11:12.060 And by the way,
00:11:13.200 also beer companies.
00:11:14.800 I mean,
00:11:15.440 this is the Cracker Barrel's
00:11:17.240 decision writ large
00:11:18.680 and I think
00:11:19.340 a lot of these companies
00:11:20.700 are now going to start firing
00:11:22.080 some of these marketing agencies,
00:11:23.620 but they're the ones
00:11:24.560 with the chokehold on culture.
00:11:26.360 You need to see
00:11:27.540 the Sidney Sweeney ad campaign work
00:11:29.880 because cowardice is common
00:11:31.920 and most marketers
00:11:33.540 are not particularly smart
00:11:35.520 and they follow
00:11:36.460 whichever direction they're led.
00:11:38.580 And if they're told
00:11:39.680 put fat chicks 1.00
00:11:40.660 into sports bras 1.00
00:11:41.620 or put dudes with penises 1.00
00:11:43.140 into sports bras 1.00
00:11:44.540 to sell women's athletic gear,
00:11:46.300 they'll do it 1.00
00:11:47.280 because they're cowards. 1.00
00:11:48.780 And that's what they were told. 1.00
00:11:51.280 And you see
00:11:52.080 in the case of
00:11:52.960 the Cracker Barrel
00:11:54.000 and a Cracker Barrel situation,
00:11:56.120 I just want to say this too,
00:11:57.120 for I've been reading
00:11:58.940 conservative media
00:12:00.300 and I've, you know,
00:12:02.180 doing all this stuff now
00:12:03.360 since I was in high school.
00:12:05.140 So we're going on
00:12:05.740 30 years
00:12:07.540 of seeing
00:12:09.480 what the sponsors are,
00:12:10.700 seeing what the climate is
00:12:12.160 and how advertisers
00:12:13.700 and corporations
00:12:14.700 treat anything
00:12:15.620 that half the country,
00:12:16.760 a little niche market
00:12:18.040 known as half the country,
00:12:19.380 fully endorses
00:12:20.320 and supports.
00:12:21.760 And so there is
00:12:22.660 a sense of a,
00:12:25.280 I don't know
00:12:25.640 if it's a renaissance,
00:12:26.840 it's certainly
00:12:27.560 a turning of the tide.
00:12:29.440 There is a sense
00:12:29.980 that things now
00:12:30.860 under this Trump administration
00:12:32.080 are better than they have ever been
00:12:33.880 in this regard.
00:12:34.780 There's still a lot of work
00:12:35.740 to be done though
00:12:36.500 because it's crazy
00:12:38.260 and you see a lot
00:12:39.280 of these shows, Clay,
00:12:40.600 after Trump's election win
00:12:42.820 that have been canceled,
00:12:44.160 a lot of these programs
00:12:45.060 that have,
00:12:45.800 they were being propped up
00:12:47.160 by people and companies
00:12:48.960 selling other stuff to you,
00:12:50.740 right?
00:12:51.060 So it's like the corporation
00:12:52.460 is making money
00:12:53.800 selling you toaster ovens
00:12:55.300 or whatever
00:12:55.880 and then people
00:12:57.780 who are in a media subsidiary
00:13:01.340 that the corporation owns
00:13:03.020 are able to write checks
00:13:04.660 that are subsidized
00:13:05.940 by the toaster ovens
00:13:07.040 that you don't realize
00:13:08.140 are actually paying the bills
00:13:10.100 so that you can have
00:13:11.200 Stephen Colbert 1.00
00:13:11.980 be a not funny jerk 1.00
00:13:13.300 on TV every night 1.00
00:13:14.280 making $30 million a year
00:13:15.780 while a staff is getting fired.
00:13:17.500 That is the lib media business model
00:13:20.300 and once you understand that
00:13:21.900 it is not free and open,
00:13:23.640 fair choice
00:13:24.280 and once you understand
00:13:25.560 how they've seated themselves
00:13:27.520 top to bottom
00:13:28.680 in these corporate institutions,
00:13:30.160 how they've decided
00:13:31.160 to use the levers of power
00:13:32.460 and their advantage
00:13:33.240 to their advantage,
00:13:34.400 Clay, this has been worth,
00:13:35.860 it's been worth
00:13:36.380 presidential elections.
00:13:37.400 I'm just going to say it.
00:13:38.280 I mean, Democrats have been
00:13:39.460 in office at different times
00:13:40.720 because of this apparatus
00:13:42.420 that we are outlining
00:13:43.220 for you right now.
00:13:43.960 So trust me, it matters.
00:13:45.820 And you have to win
00:13:47.080 the culture wars
00:13:48.140 and this is why I think
00:13:49.600 this is significant
00:13:50.580 and we're winning
00:13:52.680 the culture wars
00:13:53.600 and we're winning young men
00:13:55.380 and we need to add on
00:13:57.120 more steam.
00:13:58.200 Young women want to look 1.00
00:14:00.260 like Sidney Sweeney.
00:14:01.800 Young men want to play football. 0.95
00:14:04.640 They want to be bigger,
00:14:05.800 stronger, faster than they are.
00:14:07.920 They don't want to be failures.
00:14:09.140 They don't want to be mediocrities.
00:14:11.120 And this sameness,
00:14:13.260 this cultural androgyny
00:14:14.880 that is being sold by the left, 0.98
00:14:17.040 we're lighting it on fire,
00:14:18.480 but we need to pour on more fuel.
00:14:21.880 We need to continue
00:14:23.100 to stack wins.
00:14:24.660 That's why this is important.
00:14:26.140 This is how you stack multiple wins.
00:14:29.280 And I do think we should celebrate
00:14:31.320 and draw attention to companies
00:14:33.660 that are making the right decisions
00:14:35.660 because other companies
00:14:37.220 will emulate them
00:14:38.620 because success is contagious
00:14:40.320 and once somebody has success,
00:14:42.440 others will follow.
00:14:43.740 Yeah.
00:14:43.860 Our civilization is built on
00:14:45.600 the aspiration
00:14:46.800 to greatness,
00:14:48.420 to beauty,
00:14:49.160 to discovery,
00:14:50.200 to be someone
00:14:52.440 who is not just
00:14:54.360 eating the gruel
00:14:55.860 that is handed
00:14:57.040 by the commissars
00:14:58.280 and told what to do
00:14:59.680 and what to wear
00:15:00.480 and how to speak.
00:15:01.300 And now you're seeing
00:15:02.920 that people want to return
00:15:04.160 a restoration
00:15:04.920 to the degree it's possible
00:15:06.320 to an America 0.69
00:15:07.340 that wants greatness,
00:15:08.880 beautiful things,
00:15:09.980 and that includes,
00:15:11.480 in some cases,
00:15:12.040 beautiful people.
00:15:13.460 All right.
00:15:14.320 This is the kind of thing
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00:15:16.720 You know we've been talking
00:15:17.360 a lot about crime
00:15:18.180 and someone's home
00:15:19.520 gets broken into
00:15:20.300 and word gets out
00:15:21.380 on apps like Citizen
00:15:22.300 or Nextdoor
00:15:23.000 and everyone's on high alert
00:15:24.040 thinking,
00:15:24.520 what if it happens to me?
00:15:25.880 And in some places,
00:15:27.000 in some cases,
00:15:27.900 they don't know what to do.
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00:17:28.780 Clay, have you heard
00:17:29.720 of the Rio Reset?
00:17:31.000 Sounds like a trendy
00:17:31.980 new workout, Buck.
00:17:33.260 It does,
00:17:33.880 but it's actually a big summit
00:17:35.080 going on in Brazil.
00:17:36.240 The formal name is BRICS,
00:17:37.700 which stands for Brazil,
00:17:38.800 Russia, India,
00:17:39.460 China, and South Africa,
00:17:40.860 but they've just added
00:17:41.980 five new members.
00:17:43.300 Smart move to stick with BRICS. 1.00
00:17:45.160 We know what happens
00:17:46.040 when acronyms don't end.
00:17:47.360 They confuse everyone.
00:17:48.560 Well, that's an understatement.
00:17:50.020 BRICS is a group
00:17:50.700 of emerging economies
00:17:51.760 hoping to increase their sway
00:17:53.280 in the global financial order.
00:17:55.060 Now that sounds like
00:17:56.220 the plot line of a movie.
00:17:57.640 I'm listening.
00:17:58.600 Philip Patrick
00:17:59.320 is our Bruce Wayne.
00:18:00.760 He's a precious metal specialist
00:18:02.560 and a spokesman
00:18:03.540 for the Birch Gold Group.
00:18:04.940 He's on the ground in Rio
00:18:06.460 getting the whole lowdown
00:18:07.840 on what's going on there.
00:18:08.920 Can he give us
00:18:09.720 some inside intel?
00:18:11.020 Absolutely.
00:18:11.720 He's been there since day one.
00:18:13.600 In fact,
00:18:14.020 a major theme at the summit
00:18:15.260 is how BRICS nations
00:18:16.340 aim to reduce reliance
00:18:17.700 on the U.S. dollar
00:18:18.820 in global trade.
00:18:20.140 Yikes.
00:18:20.580 That doesn't sound good.
00:18:21.660 We got to get Philip
00:18:22.480 on the line, stat.
00:18:23.840 Already did.
00:18:24.640 And he left
00:18:25.140 the Clay and Buck audience
00:18:26.320 this message.
00:18:27.760 The world is moving
00:18:28.940 on from the dollar.
00:18:30.760 Quietly,
00:18:31.500 but steadily.
00:18:32.740 These nations
00:18:33.460 are making real progress
00:18:34.920 towards reshaping global trade.
00:18:36.820 And the U.S. dollar
00:18:38.180 is no longer
00:18:39.180 the centerpiece.
00:18:40.520 That shift
00:18:41.400 doesn't happen overnight.
00:18:43.260 But make no mistake,
00:18:44.820 it's already begun.
00:18:45.860 Thank you, Philip.
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00:19:12.560 Welcome back in.
00:19:13.540 Clay,
00:19:13.900 Travis,
00:19:14.500 Buck Sexton's show.
00:19:15.760 Appreciate all of you
00:19:16.780 hanging out with us
00:19:18.220 as we are rolling through
00:19:19.740 the Thursday edition
00:19:21.460 of the program.
00:19:23.300 And we've got
00:19:24.300 a ton of different things
00:19:25.500 that you guys
00:19:26.180 are reacting to.
00:19:28.260 But I did want
00:19:29.680 to play this
00:19:30.480 because I think
00:19:32.140 one of the aspects
00:19:33.480 of Trump
00:19:35.100 and his particular
00:19:36.760 focus on crime
00:19:38.760 is it actually
00:19:40.720 is connecting
00:19:41.700 with a lot of people
00:19:43.600 out there
00:19:44.180 that are having
00:19:45.080 to deal
00:19:45.760 with legitimate crime.
00:19:48.160 And here is
00:19:49.140 a grandmother
00:19:49.880 of a Chicago crime victim
00:19:52.000 speaking to Fox News
00:19:53.800 about what she sees.
00:19:56.700 This is a woman
00:19:57.580 named Mrs. Gale,
00:19:59.240 I believe is how
00:20:00.020 they identify her.
00:20:01.280 This was on Fox News
00:20:02.540 saying,
00:20:03.540 hey,
00:20:04.180 bring them on.
00:20:05.220 What do we have to lose?
00:20:06.520 I would bet for you
00:20:08.000 that this is how
00:20:09.500 90 plus percent
00:20:11.100 of people
00:20:12.020 that actually are living
00:20:13.340 in crime ravaged
00:20:15.020 neighborhoods feel.
00:20:16.440 Listen to cut one.
00:20:17.520 My name is Mrs. Gale.
00:20:19.640 My grandson
00:20:20.340 is Gregory Wilson III.
00:20:22.800 You got people
00:20:23.660 still robbing,
00:20:24.880 stealing, 0.99
00:20:25.500 killing. 0.97
00:20:26.280 Just the other day
00:20:27.120 a five-year-old boy
00:20:28.120 got killed,
00:20:28.780 shot in the head.
00:20:29.800 It's like it's never 0.78
00:20:30.560 going to end.
00:20:31.880 So if Mr. Trump
00:20:33.120 want to bring
00:20:33.680 these troops
00:20:34.220 to Chicago,
00:20:35.340 hey,
00:20:35.920 bring them on.
00:20:36.680 What do we got
00:20:37.080 to lose?
00:20:37.820 You know what I'm saying?
00:20:39.540 Put some fear
00:20:40.200 and let them know
00:20:40.900 that they're here
00:20:41.600 and they want,
00:20:42.200 you know,
00:20:42.480 to protect the city
00:20:43.240 of Chicago.
00:20:43.980 We got elderly people 1.00
00:20:45.340 afraid to ride
00:20:46.500 the red line.
00:20:47.720 You got kids
00:20:48.340 can't go outside
00:20:49.260 and play.
00:20:50.100 You got women
00:20:50.860 don't want to walk
00:20:51.840 at night alone.
00:20:53.720 Look,
00:20:55.920 this is one
00:20:56.980 of the things
00:20:58.040 that I think
00:20:58.780 is not getting
00:20:59.460 enough attention.
00:21:00.180 It's not going
00:21:00.480 to shock you
00:21:01.060 that most
00:21:01.800 mainstream media
00:21:02.580 is not focused
00:21:03.280 on this.
00:21:04.560 It's very easy
00:21:05.500 for wealthy people
00:21:06.620 who have gated
00:21:08.000 communities
00:21:08.580 and have private
00:21:09.940 security
00:21:10.460 and or have
00:21:11.900 their own
00:21:12.620 community police
00:21:14.260 that are rapidly
00:21:15.240 responding to
00:21:16.440 any issue
00:21:17.240 that might arise.
00:21:18.400 It's very easy
00:21:19.360 for those people
00:21:19.960 to say,
00:21:20.380 hey,
00:21:20.540 it's safe
00:21:21.280 in this city.
00:21:22.500 We don't need
00:21:23.180 Trump.
00:21:24.000 We don't need
00:21:24.720 National Guard.
00:21:25.480 We don't need
00:21:25.900 more police.
00:21:27.200 But the people
00:21:27.940 that actually
00:21:28.980 are in areas
00:21:30.520 where crime
00:21:31.340 takes place
00:21:32.240 would overwhelmingly
00:21:34.340 welcome being able
00:21:36.240 to be more secure.
00:21:37.900 And this is where
00:21:39.240 I think the true
00:21:40.620 lie of the
00:21:41.680 Black Lives Matter
00:21:42.600 protests are exposed
00:21:44.700 because essentially
00:21:46.360 what Karen Bass 0.55
00:21:47.540 in L.A.
00:21:48.620 and Brandon Johnson
00:21:50.460 in Chicago
00:21:51.200 and Governor
00:21:54.320 Westmore
00:21:54.980 of the state
00:21:57.600 of Maryland
00:21:58.100 are actually
00:21:59.120 saying is
00:21:59.900 black lives 0.99
00:22:00.940 don't matter 0.99
00:22:01.660 if it requires
00:22:03.560 more police
00:22:04.820 officers.
00:22:06.020 And we know
00:22:06.620 that those police
00:22:07.380 officers and
00:22:08.180 those National Guard
00:22:09.040 troops save
00:22:10.360 and the people
00:22:11.200 that they save
00:22:11.840 save lives
00:22:12.480 and the people's
00:22:13.320 lives that they
00:22:13.780 save are 0.98
00:22:14.560 overwhelmingly black 1.00
00:22:16.020 yet they don't 0.98
00:22:17.400 want the help.
00:22:18.640 Well, what you're
00:22:19.320 seeing are a lot
00:22:20.080 of people
00:22:20.620 coming forward
00:22:21.660 and being very
00:22:22.540 loud about how
00:22:24.500 they don't need
00:22:26.540 more police
00:22:27.640 maybe
00:22:28.100 but they don't
00:22:30.160 want more police
00:22:31.060 for the people
00:22:31.700 who do need
00:22:32.740 and want more
00:22:33.580 police.
00:22:34.200 This is a common
00:22:35.020 thing.
00:22:35.660 This is one of the
00:22:37.540 tragic realities
00:22:39.360 realities of this
00:22:40.360 debate is that
00:22:41.140 you have so
00:22:41.640 many wealthy
00:22:43.280 influential people
00:22:44.540 I'm talking now
00:22:45.520 on the politician
00:22:46.220 and media side.
00:22:47.140 Also, are we
00:22:48.700 going to talk
00:22:49.000 about how Ilhan
00:22:49.660 Omar is worth 1.00
00:22:50.240 so much money
00:22:50.780 now?
00:22:51.240 Is this real?
00:22:52.080 You and I were
00:22:52.580 talking about this
00:22:53.300 off air yesterday.
00:22:54.740 I mean, not
00:22:55.500 like right now
00:22:56.320 but can we just
00:22:56.840 put a pin in
00:22:57.340 that one?
00:22:58.160 How are all
00:22:58.600 these politicians
00:22:59.700 getting so rich
00:23:00.600 out of nowhere?
00:23:01.940 We don't really
00:23:02.300 understand what's
00:23:02.760 going on.
00:23:03.240 I think that's
00:23:03.760 worth asking a
00:23:04.800 little more about
00:23:05.160 but these people
00:23:07.520 who are in
00:23:08.060 politics and
00:23:08.660 media and in
00:23:10.080 general out there
00:23:11.500 who are saying
00:23:12.220 you don't need
00:23:12.960 more police,
00:23:14.740 you don't need
00:23:14.880 more law enforcement
00:23:15.540 help in these
00:23:16.100 areas, they are
00:23:17.800 unfortunately relegating,
00:23:20.120 they are consigning
00:23:21.940 others to continue
00:23:24.160 to live in crime
00:23:25.140 infested neighborhoods.
00:23:26.540 Yes.
00:23:26.920 This is a choice
00:23:28.360 and this can be
00:23:29.060 stopped.
00:23:29.440 People who just
00:23:30.080 want you to
00:23:30.640 believe, and I
00:23:31.480 know you all
00:23:31.900 know this, but
00:23:32.660 people who want
00:23:33.240 you to believe
00:23:33.800 that there have
00:23:34.560 to be 500 to
00:23:35.720 600 murders a
00:23:36.760 year in Chicago
00:23:37.440 just because that's
00:23:38.820 how it goes are
00:23:40.240 lying or they're 1.00
00:23:41.680 idiots. 1.00
00:23:42.140 It's just not 1.00
00:23:42.760 true.
00:23:43.120 It does not have
00:23:43.860 to be that way.
00:23:45.340 In fact, there
00:23:45.840 have been times
00:23:46.460 where the city of
00:23:47.020 Chicago, if you
00:23:48.060 went back far
00:23:49.120 enough, it certainly
00:23:49.800 had nowhere near
00:23:50.420 that number of
00:23:51.320 murders.
00:23:52.780 So, Clay, I
00:23:53.620 think that this
00:23:54.880 is something that
00:23:55.620 Republicans are
00:23:56.440 going to continue
00:23:56.860 to win on as
00:23:58.060 an issue.
00:23:58.620 I think they're
00:23:59.000 going to continue
00:23:59.520 to bring more
00:24:00.180 people over to
00:24:00.820 their side because
00:24:01.620 this is a just
00:24:03.260 reasonable or
00:24:04.320 unreasonable thing.
00:24:06.240 This isn't
00:24:07.180 something that, as
00:24:08.500 we've discussed,
00:24:09.940 should fall along
00:24:11.540 deeply partisan
00:24:12.540 lines, although it
00:24:13.260 does fall along
00:24:13.880 partisan lines.
00:24:15.100 And I would just
00:24:15.620 remind everybody
00:24:16.340 that the BLM
00:24:19.240 2.0 era, even
00:24:21.500 when that was
00:24:22.220 really going, when
00:24:23.560 they would actually
00:24:24.220 talk to people, when
00:24:25.140 they would do
00:24:25.480 polling in high
00:24:26.440 crime neighborhoods,
00:24:27.080 they might say
00:24:28.620 things like, oh, I
00:24:29.500 want justice for
00:24:30.220 George Floyd, but
00:24:31.840 they'd also say, I
00:24:33.780 think more cops
00:24:34.300 would help.
00:24:35.100 There's a lot of
00:24:35.740 that.
00:24:36.160 You know, if you
00:24:36.740 look at the real
00:24:37.560 data on this, people
00:24:39.760 who live in high
00:24:40.620 crime neighborhoods
00:24:41.320 want less crime in
00:24:42.340 those neighborhoods,
00:24:42.900 and they have
00:24:43.340 an understanding
00:24:43.960 of, we need
00:24:45.540 more cops to
00:24:46.560 get this done.
00:24:47.380 They don't want
00:24:47.760 the cops to use
00:24:48.340 excessive force.
00:24:49.520 They don't want
00:24:49.880 the cops to, and
00:24:50.880 that brings me to
00:24:51.740 body cams for a
00:24:52.740 second here, Clay.
00:24:54.540 You know, I've
00:24:55.280 been on this little
00:24:56.120 kick online because
00:24:57.260 it must be said, I
00:25:00.020 remember there was
00:25:01.140 all this talk, all
00:25:02.000 this stuff about, oh
00:25:02.840 my gosh, because
00:25:03.760 you know, even back
00:25:05.040 in like the Occupy
00:25:06.180 Wall Street era, there
00:25:07.880 were all these
00:25:08.200 anti-cop protests
00:25:09.300 that were part of
00:25:09.940 it, racist, murdering 0.97
00:25:11.020 cops that would have 0.99
00:25:11.660 these banners up and
00:25:12.600 all this stuff.
00:25:13.820 What body cameras
00:25:14.620 show, whether it's
00:25:15.860 just someone who's
00:25:16.940 being drunk,
00:25:18.280 disorderly, and
00:25:18.940 really entitled, you
00:25:19.740 know, do you know
00:25:20.580 that I'm an assistant
00:25:21.560 district attorney, sir?
00:25:23.520 Excuse me, sir.
00:25:25.520 You know, the cops
00:25:26.580 like, yeah, I don't
00:25:27.320 care.
00:25:27.880 I don't care.
00:25:28.700 You're not, you've
00:25:29.420 been trespassed from
00:25:30.220 premises, or somebody
00:25:31.900 coming at an
00:25:32.600 individual with a
00:25:33.160 knife.
00:25:33.400 I mean, I just saw
00:25:33.860 this yesterday.
00:25:35.400 Without body
00:25:36.200 cameras, we all
00:25:37.040 know this, the
00:25:37.840 community, the
00:25:38.800 community organizers,
00:25:41.080 whatever that means,
00:25:41.860 would be saying
00:25:42.980 that these were
00:25:43.660 murders committed
00:25:44.800 by cops.
00:25:45.440 Yes.
00:25:45.880 And every time
00:25:46.440 there was a
00:25:47.460 minority shot by a
00:25:48.900 police officer, if
00:25:50.180 we didn't have body
00:25:51.000 cameras, if there
00:25:52.140 was any daylight to
00:25:54.220 tell everybody, you
00:25:55.960 know, the national
00:25:56.500 media to tell
00:25:57.080 everybody that this
00:25:57.760 was a racist cop
00:26:00.300 murdering somebody, 0.70
00:26:01.260 we'd have to go 0.98
00:26:02.200 through that whole
00:26:03.240 national hand
00:26:04.300 rigging, oh my
00:26:04.980 gosh, racism, and
00:26:06.240 we have to talk
00:26:06.720 about Jim Crow and
00:26:07.580 the legacy of
00:26:08.140 slavery and all these
00:26:08.820 things.
00:26:09.080 Well, with body
00:26:10.060 cameras, what you
00:26:10.600 see is cops, a lot
00:26:12.540 of the cops, Clay, that
00:26:13.400 I see in these
00:26:13.940 incidents are far
00:26:15.500 more patient than I
00:26:16.580 would be as a cop,
00:26:17.780 I'm saying.
00:26:18.400 Like, if I saw
00:26:19.120 myself in their
00:26:19.900 shoes, I would
00:26:21.020 have gone to
00:26:22.600 force probably
00:26:23.460 quicker than they
00:26:24.420 do, which says a
00:26:25.060 lot to me.
00:26:26.180 I mean, the most
00:26:26.980 recent one that I
00:26:28.080 was watching video
00:26:28.900 of yesterday, a
00:26:30.480 woman comes 1.00
00:26:31.120 storming at a
00:26:31.840 police officer with
00:26:33.020 a butcher knife,
00:26:34.700 knife, and I'm
00:26:36.220 telling you, if
00:26:37.800 these cameras
00:26:40.060 didn't exist, I
00:26:41.060 can think of five
00:26:41.780 or six different
00:26:42.560 cases where you
00:26:43.380 watched it on
00:26:44.160 camera and you
00:26:44.740 said, man, that
00:26:46.580 cop is lucky to be
00:26:48.960 alive, because what
00:26:50.360 people don't realize,
00:26:51.520 the camera actually
00:26:52.540 shows you, and you
00:26:54.480 know this because
00:26:55.020 you're a highly
00:26:57.480 trained marksman,
00:26:58.920 but the amount of
00:27:00.180 time it takes for
00:27:01.260 someone to get to
00:27:02.380 you, even if they
00:27:03.560 don't have a gun,
00:27:04.640 with a knife or
00:27:05.820 with something that
00:27:06.860 they could use in a
00:27:07.960 violent way on you
00:27:09.640 is almost
00:27:10.860 instantaneous, right?
00:27:12.160 This is where you
00:27:13.080 get the 20-foot rule,
00:27:14.100 they teach law
00:27:14.640 enforcement, they
00:27:15.240 teach in the intel
00:27:16.540 agencies and
00:27:17.660 military.
00:27:18.800 If somebody's within
00:27:19.560 20 feet and you
00:27:20.420 have to come out of
00:27:21.040 the draw out of a
00:27:21.860 holster, I know a
00:27:23.300 lot of you are like, 1.00
00:27:24.260 fuck, I can draw. 1.00
00:27:25.260 Okay, fine, but the 1.00
00:27:26.200 average person and
00:27:27.640 the average cop who
00:27:29.100 has a gun is not
00:27:30.660 going to be able to
00:27:31.320 get an aim shot off 0.93
00:27:32.680 at somebody storming 0.98
00:27:33.540 them at an able-bodied
00:27:35.340 male within 20
00:27:36.120 feet, if they have a
00:27:37.260 knife, they're going 1.00
00:27:37.660 to stab you. 1.00
00:27:38.260 You might kill them, 1.00
00:27:39.500 but they're going to 1.00
00:27:39.940 stab you first. 0.97
00:27:41.160 Yeah, and also, I 0.94
00:27:42.660 think it shows, because
00:27:43.880 what did you hear a
00:27:44.600 lot of?
00:27:45.220 Why don't they just 1.00
00:27:45.740 shoot them in the 1.00
00:27:46.140 leg instead? 1.00
00:27:47.740 Which is one of the 0.93
00:27:48.640 most ridiculous when 0.95
00:27:49.800 you're being charged. 0.99
00:27:50.340 And a lot of these
00:27:50.900 body cameras, you see
00:27:51.740 people get shot in the
00:27:52.520 leg and they're still
00:27:53.340 stabbing.
00:27:54.360 And also, you see how
00:27:55.900 hard it is when
00:27:56.880 someone is running at
00:27:57.920 you trying to do ill 0.61
00:27:59.300 to you to hit them
00:28:01.880 at period, right? 0.98
00:28:03.080 Like, I mean, you're
00:28:04.080 reacting, your body is
00:28:05.340 like, it is, I think
00:28:07.260 it's putting people
00:28:08.280 because the body
00:28:08.960 cameras, not only are
00:28:09.800 they showing what the
00:28:11.280 officer sees, but
00:28:13.220 they're putting people
00:28:14.360 inside of the
00:28:15.400 officer's body, right?
00:28:16.880 Because effectively, you
00:28:18.520 then are, you know,
00:28:19.600 everybody wants to play
00:28:20.580 shooter video games,
00:28:21.820 right?
00:28:22.140 Like the Fortnights of
00:28:23.560 the world, there are a
00:28:24.760 ton of them, the Call of
00:28:26.260 Duties that are super
00:28:27.620 popular.
00:28:28.080 When you are standing
00:28:29.820 there in the officer's
00:28:31.600 perspective, you, I
00:28:33.740 think most people have
00:28:34.540 the reaction, a lot of
00:28:35.460 people do, Buck, that
00:28:36.240 you just had of, man,
00:28:37.840 this officer is actually
00:28:39.200 way more conciliatory
00:28:41.440 than I might well be in
00:28:43.160 this situation.
00:28:44.040 Well, this also goes to
00:28:45.740 something, this is when
00:28:47.100 you think about this, and
00:28:47.980 this is true of all these
00:28:48.800 different law enforcement
00:28:49.600 debates that happen about
00:28:51.380 what is reasonable and
00:28:53.600 also what the incentives
00:28:54.860 are here.
00:28:56.040 And we have a lot of
00:28:56.860 cops who listen to this
00:28:57.800 show, and we
00:28:58.380 appreciate that, a lot
00:28:59.200 of former cops listen to
00:29:00.280 this show, all of them
00:29:01.920 know that even in the
00:29:03.700 best of circumstances,
00:29:05.540 in terms of clarity, for
00:29:07.500 a lethal, lethal use of
00:29:09.180 force incident, there,
00:29:11.080 it's, you've taken a
00:29:12.800 human life, there's
00:29:14.020 psychological trauma
00:29:14.920 that comes along with
00:29:15.760 that, you're going to
00:29:16.360 get put, there's going to
00:29:17.020 be an investigation of
00:29:18.320 this, even, I'm talking
00:29:19.140 about the most clean
00:29:20.080 shoot, so to speak,
00:29:21.160 imaginable, like somebody 0.99
00:29:22.760 running at you with a
00:29:23.620 knife, or someone pulling
00:29:24.740 out a gun, you're saying
00:29:25.640 drop it, drop it, drop it, 0.87
00:29:26.640 drop it, you know, on
00:29:27.160 video, they're still
00:29:28.520 going to put you on
00:29:29.260 leave, you've still
00:29:30.320 taken a human life,
00:29:31.320 there's a, there's a
00:29:32.240 psychological toll from
00:29:33.760 that, a lot of military
00:29:34.740 guys know this, and, you
00:29:36.800 know, the point is,
00:29:38.080 nobody wants to do that.
00:29:39.100 No one's looking to do that
00:29:41.720 in law enforcement, except
00:29:43.780 in the most extreme and
00:29:45.640 unusual circumstances, where
00:29:47.380 you get some kind of a
00:29:48.120 psychopath in there,
00:29:48.940 because there's like a
00:29:49.460 hunt, there's basically a
00:29:50.400 million cops in this
00:29:51.260 country, so you're, you
00:29:52.920 know, a million of
00:29:53.700 anything, you're going to
00:29:54.320 have a couple of 0.96
00:29:55.020 lunatics, but in general, 0.97
00:29:57.020 they're not trying to do
00:29:57.940 anything other than get
00:29:58.920 home to their families and
00:30:00.060 do their jobs, and, you
00:30:02.160 know, there's the, there's
00:30:04.180 that old joke, Clay, it's
00:30:05.440 like, I don't remember all
00:30:06.620 of it, and some of you
00:30:07.080 remember it, but it's,
00:30:08.280 you know, heaven is, like,
00:30:10.840 the, the, the British are 0.78
00:30:11.940 the cops, and, you know,
00:30:14.360 the, or the, yeah, and
00:30:16.280 the British are the cops, 1.00
00:30:17.160 the Italians are the, are
00:30:19.160 the cooks, the French are 1.00
00:30:20.500 the, I forget what it is,
00:30:21.980 but I always think about
00:30:23.020 how people point to the
00:30:24.000 British as having such good
00:30:25.540 police, and I sit here,
00:30:27.020 I'm like, actually, given
00:30:28.020 the amount of violence and
00:30:29.000 stuff that Americans have,
00:30:31.400 that, you know, that
00:30:32.080 American cops have to go 0.99
00:30:33.120 through, American cops are
00:30:34.800 phenomenal.
00:30:36.620 I agree, I mean, I think
00:30:39.660 if you actually contemplate
00:30:42.460 and look at this, there
00:30:43.880 was, to be fair, a lot of
00:30:45.480 police that were saying,
00:30:46.480 hey, we don't really want
00:30:47.460 body cams on us, remember
00:30:48.820 it wasn't, but I think
00:30:50.680 increasingly every cop out
00:30:52.560 there is saying, yeah,
00:30:53.920 we've got to have this,
00:30:54.860 it's protected.
00:30:55.220 I totally butchered this
00:30:56.360 joke, so can I just
00:30:57.220 remind, you know, heaven is
00:30:58.760 where the cooks are
00:30:59.540 French, the police are
00:31:01.120 British, the mechanics are 0.74
00:31:02.780 German, the lovers are
00:31:04.340 Italian, that was one I 0.98
00:31:05.300 couldn't remember, and
00:31:06.140 everything is organized 0.61
00:31:06.980 by the Swiss, and hell is 0.93
00:31:08.920 where the cooks are
00:31:09.900 British, the mechanics are 0.74
00:31:12.240 French, and everything is
00:31:13.920 organized by the Italians.
00:31:15.040 Anyway, you get the idea.
00:31:17.760 Italy is an amazing country,
00:31:19.820 but boy, oh boy, is it a
00:31:20.900 mess.
00:31:22.080 Yeah.
00:31:23.180 Yeah, you don't want to have
00:31:24.480 to get your Wi-Fi linked up
00:31:26.400 in Italy.
00:31:26.980 That's like a six-month
00:31:28.380 operation, from what I'm
00:31:29.360 told.
00:31:29.740 And you don't want to have
00:31:30.440 to ask a French person to
00:31:31.540 help you on anything.
00:31:32.580 I'm not going to disagree.
00:31:35.360 I'm not going to disagree
00:31:36.060 on that one.
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00:33:00.100 We have some changes afoot
00:33:02.600 thanks to RFK Jr. at
00:33:05.660 HHS, Florida Surgeon General
00:33:08.380 Joseph Vladipo, and others
00:33:11.300 who are making moves and
00:33:15.440 changing things up after what
00:33:17.140 we saw, in my opinion, and I
00:33:19.060 think many share it, I know
00:33:20.720 Clay shares it, was the
00:33:23.040 absolute abdication of
00:33:25.880 impartiality, science-based
00:33:28.200 medicine, and basic
00:33:29.420 responsibility by the
00:33:31.120 medical establishment
00:33:32.160 during COVID.
00:33:35.400 And that was during the
00:33:36.760 early days when Trump was
00:33:40.180 reliant on that, on those
00:33:42.200 agencies to act the way that
00:33:44.340 they were supposed to at some
00:33:46.600 level.
00:33:47.020 And then during the Biden
00:33:48.600 years where it just got worse
00:33:49.760 and crazier and more absurd,
00:33:52.200 I just want to tell you
00:33:53.780 something that immediately
00:33:55.540 annoys me is when anyone
00:33:58.780 says they did the best they
00:34:00.960 can, it was complicated, no
00:34:03.080 absolutely unacceptable, because
00:34:05.360 they weren't arguing then,
00:34:07.680 they weren't arguing we need a
00:34:08.980 vaccine mandate because things
00:34:11.280 are complicated and we're not
00:34:12.920 sure, but we think that this
00:34:14.480 makes sense given they were
00:34:16.000 saying, shut your face, I don't 0.76
00:34:18.240 want to hear it, you're not 0.99
00:34:19.560 allowed to go to church, you're 0.97
00:34:20.500 allowed to go buy weed, but
00:34:22.180 get the vax or you lose your
00:34:23.720 job, get the shot or you can't 0.56
00:34:25.640 go to a restaurant.
00:34:27.000 We know what's true here, we
00:34:28.600 know what the facts are.
00:34:30.020 They did that and then they
00:34:31.640 were wrong on top of it.
00:34:33.320 It is unforgivable, there is
00:34:35.120 no excuse for it, and people in
00:34:37.060 the medical profession who
00:34:38.120 pushed this and went along with
00:34:39.380 this should be ashamed of
00:34:40.940 themselves.
00:34:42.040 The airline attendants who
00:34:43.440 were enforcing, you know,
00:34:45.240 masking at their whim, that
00:34:47.760 in some ways was the absolute
00:34:48.740 worst.
00:34:49.180 Like, there were people, and
00:34:50.840 I know this has happened to
00:34:51.580 me, there were people who
00:34:52.700 thought, you know what, I'm
00:34:54.060 going to go up to someone
00:34:54.860 now, your mask has been off
00:34:56.100 your face while you're eating
00:34:57.060 a little too long.
00:34:57.880 I'm going to tell you to
00:34:58.480 please cover up.
00:35:00.200 Think about the mentality.
00:35:01.420 I mean, these are the people
00:35:02.300 the Soviets used as prison 0.59
00:35:03.660 guards in the gulag.
00:35:05.080 They enjoy the little thrill of
00:35:06.760 power and harassing other
00:35:07.920 people.
00:35:08.320 There's something deeply wrong
00:35:09.480 inside of them.
00:35:10.500 They didn't have to do it.
00:35:11.960 I mean, that's the case I
00:35:12.740 always go to, Clay, because
00:35:14.000 you could have just not been a
00:35:16.640 psycho and said, okay, they're 0.97
00:35:18.280 eating.
00:35:18.680 I'm going to let them eat
00:35:19.500 their food.
00:35:20.200 You know, that's within the
00:35:20.960 rules.
00:35:21.800 But no, no.
00:35:22.800 Mask up between bites.
00:35:24.060 Sir, you're taking a little
00:35:24.840 too long.
00:35:25.380 Could you mask up between
00:35:26.360 bites?
00:35:27.200 The people who did that 0.99
00:35:28.320 should forever hang their 0.99
00:35:29.420 heads in shame because 1.00
00:35:30.360 they're morons and they're 1.00
00:35:31.460 sheep, and they're the 1.00
00:35:32.440 reason that there are
00:35:33.940 totalitarianisms that still
00:35:35.960 exist to this day.
00:35:37.720 To this day.
00:35:39.220 Around the world.
00:35:40.560 Unfortunately.
00:35:41.120 In fact, the second largest
00:35:42.000 country in the world is a
00:35:43.920 totalitarian dictatorship.
00:35:44.960 So what does that tell
00:35:45.660 you?
00:35:46.460 Now, let's get into the
00:35:47.880 pushback against the
00:35:49.200 madness here.
00:35:49.880 First of all, Florida
00:35:50.780 Surgeon General, Harvard
00:35:53.500 trained doctor, Joseph
00:35:55.460 Latipo, spoke about ending
00:35:57.380 the vaccine mandates in this
00:35:58.880 state, the great state of
00:36:00.860 Florida, under Ron DeSantis'
00:36:02.900 stewardship, a fantastic
00:36:03.980 place.
00:36:05.040 Play 14.
00:36:05.940 The Florida Department of
00:36:07.100 Health, in partnership with
00:36:09.100 the governor, is going to be
00:36:11.000 working to end all vaccine
00:36:14.300 mandates in Florida, all of
00:36:16.900 them, all of them.
00:36:21.400 Every last one of them, every
00:36:24.220 last one of them is wrong and
00:36:26.480 drips with disdain and slavery.
00:36:30.500 Who am I as a government or
00:36:33.440 anyone else or who am I as a
00:36:35.280 man standing here now to tell
00:36:37.100 you what you should put in
00:36:39.480 your body?
00:36:40.880 Who am I to tell you what
00:36:44.100 your child should put in your 0.98
00:36:45.740 body?
00:36:46.540 I don't have that right.
00:36:48.500 Clegg, and I also just throw
00:36:49.720 in there before, Dr. Oz,
00:36:51.760 also, we're going to have him
00:36:53.440 on today, but we got Nicole 0.93
00:36:54.280 Sapphire on later.
00:36:55.860 We need to bring some MD
00:36:57.100 expertise.
00:36:57.600 Here's Dr. Oz against vaccine
00:36:59.300 mandates.
00:37:00.600 I would definitely not have
00:37:01.660 mandates for vaccinations.
00:37:03.680 This is a decision that a
00:37:04.980 physician and a patient should
00:37:06.340 be making together.
00:37:07.560 Their parents love their kids
00:37:08.600 more than anybody else.
00:37:10.000 I could love that kid, so
00:37:11.120 why not let the parents play
00:37:12.280 an active role in this?
00:37:13.580 There are some states now
00:37:14.640 we're seeing an increase in
00:37:15.860 homeschooling because parents
00:37:17.140 are running from the
00:37:17.940 health care system.
00:37:18.940 They can't get health care
00:37:19.820 because doctors are unwilling
00:37:20.880 to take the risk of taking
00:37:21.860 care of children who don't
00:37:23.100 want vaccinations because it
00:37:24.540 might impact the way their
00:37:26.320 practices are run.
00:37:27.260 They shouldn't feel pressure
00:37:28.380 from the government to decide
00:37:30.240 what to do with the
00:37:30.960 vaccination schedule.
00:37:32.060 They should do what's the
00:37:32.940 best interest of the person
00:37:34.600 in front of them that states
00:37:35.460 a child and what those
00:37:36.600 parents desire.
00:37:37.780 That's how the system is
00:37:38.740 supposed to run.
00:37:39.760 The floor is yours, sir.
00:37:42.560 This is one of those
00:37:43.600 situations where, frankly,
00:37:46.060 COVID made me question a lot.
00:37:49.000 And I bet there's a lot of
00:37:50.540 moms and dads out there that
00:37:52.160 are the exact same as me.
00:37:55.440 I didn't question anything on
00:37:57.380 the vaccine schedule for my
00:37:58.760 kids.
00:37:59.600 I've got 17, 14, 10-year-old
00:38:01.780 boys.
00:38:02.140 Obviously, we haven't really
00:38:03.440 been through the vaccine
00:38:04.860 process in a long time.
00:38:08.500 But as soon as COVID happened,
00:38:10.380 I said, my kids are not
00:38:11.460 getting the COVID shot.
00:38:13.340 And I was looking at the data.
00:38:16.000 Thankfully, they did not get
00:38:17.320 the COVID shot.
00:38:18.660 I think that a lot of parents
00:38:20.380 out there who did get their
00:38:21.880 COVID, their kid, the COVID
00:38:23.140 shot, probably some of you are
00:38:24.440 listening to us now because
00:38:26.360 you were still willing to go
00:38:28.000 along with the public health
00:38:29.300 establishment, I have a lot of
00:38:33.140 questions about why we have
00:38:34.760 the number of shots that we
00:38:36.260 give our kids now. 0.99
00:38:37.640 I do.
00:38:38.780 And look, I am not going to go
00:38:41.180 through the, Buck, you now
00:38:42.920 have got a baby boy that I
00:38:45.160 remember thinking it seems like
00:38:47.080 they get a lot of shots.
00:38:48.600 More shots than I got when I was
00:38:50.540 a kid.
00:38:51.020 More shots than any of you out
00:38:52.540 there in your 30s or 40s or
00:38:54.800 50s or 60s got.
00:38:56.260 And I just look around and I
00:39:00.120 do feel like much of what RFK
00:39:03.520 Junior and the Maha moms are 1.00
00:39:05.460 saying is true. 0.83
00:39:07.260 It feels to me like we have a
00:39:09.760 lot more sick kids now, a lot
00:39:13.180 more allergies with kids, a lot
00:39:15.760 more public health issues with
00:39:18.500 young kids now than we used to.
00:39:21.520 And I can tell you this, Clay,
00:39:25.180 where this is an ongoing
00:39:26.360 discussion in my house right
00:39:27.600 now, and we are doing both a
00:39:30.420 slow, a spread out in the
00:39:33.840 vaccine schedule as in like
00:39:35.640 taking time between them and
00:39:37.500 also doing a a la carte system
00:39:40.720 for the vaccine system or the
00:39:42.660 vaccine choices, as in we have a
00:39:44.900 very good MD down here who was,
00:39:48.820 you know, look, if you're going
00:39:50.020 to be my kid's doctor, I got to
00:39:52.180 tell you this, you better not
00:39:53.300 still have a mask up sign in
00:39:55.020 your office, which does still
00:39:56.440 exist in some places.
00:39:58.020 So this doc lives in reality and
00:40:00.480 lived in reality during COVID
00:40:01.820 because he was a Florida based
00:40:03.120 doctor.
00:40:03.500 He's really good.
00:40:04.300 But I'll just tell you this.
00:40:05.260 I said, doc, Carrie and I were
00:40:08.160 in the office and I said, OK, so
00:40:10.600 we can get this one shot and
00:40:11.760 there's another shot that maybe
00:40:12.780 we get.
00:40:13.760 And he basically was like, look,
00:40:15.120 you know, I was like, I don't
00:40:16.200 think we need to get that second
00:40:17.160 vaccine.
00:40:18.080 What do you think?
00:40:18.680 He goes, no, you don't need to
00:40:19.560 get that one.
00:40:20.020 That one really, I don't think.
00:40:21.000 And then I said, OK, the first
00:40:22.620 one, though, what do you think
00:40:23.220 about this one?
00:40:23.640 He said, look, I'll tell you
00:40:24.400 this.
00:40:25.120 He said, I've looked at the safety
00:40:26.520 profile for a long time.
00:40:28.920 It's gotten it's gotten even
00:40:30.380 better over the years based on
00:40:31.940 on what's in it.
00:40:32.960 You know, he's kind of a more
00:40:33.840 holistic doc.
00:40:34.520 And he said, I'll tell you this,
00:40:36.060 what this prevents.
00:40:37.300 It basically is for a form of
00:40:39.300 pneumonia that babies get.
00:40:40.560 He said when I was doing my
00:40:41.700 residency, it was actually in
00:40:43.820 New York when he was doing his
00:40:44.840 residency in New York, babies
00:40:46.520 would come in every day and die
00:40:47.560 from that.
00:40:47.920 Yeah.
00:40:48.920 So he said, you know, I would
00:40:51.100 have this one.
00:40:52.040 Yeah, this one.
00:40:52.900 I would advise it was still our
00:40:54.080 choice.
00:40:54.780 It was still our choice.
00:40:55.840 But those are the kind of
00:40:57.020 conversations I think that need,
00:40:58.320 you know, it's a total risk
00:40:59.340 benefit analysis and, you know,
00:41:01.320 not being told get this or
00:41:02.900 you're not allowed to go to
00:41:03.720 school or get this or you're a
00:41:04.800 bad person.
00:41:06.420 I just again, I think that there
00:41:09.240 are a lot of, you know, they
00:41:11.600 turned anti-vax into an insult.
00:41:14.420 I actually think it is not, most
00:41:19.040 people are not anti-vax on
00:41:20.340 everything.
00:41:21.000 One.
00:41:21.960 Two, they have turned parents
00:41:25.600 asking, hey, are my kids over
00:41:28.400 medicated into a design to attack
00:41:32.220 you for asking questions?
00:41:34.600 And my general position as a
00:41:37.120 parent, and I follow this myself,
00:41:39.820 is I don't want to take anything.
00:41:41.980 I just like my wife makes fun of 1.00
00:41:45.400 me.
00:41:45.680 I don't even like to take
00:41:46.580 Tylenol, right?
00:41:47.980 Like I am just a I would rather
00:41:50.440 not put things into my body if I
00:41:53.580 don't have to and let my immune
00:41:56.180 system work.
00:41:57.100 I've never gotten a COVID shot.
00:41:58.800 I'm glad I never got the COVID
00:42:00.160 shot.
00:42:01.060 And, you know, I hope that I can
00:42:03.340 be healthy and live to 85 ish.
00:42:05.380 That's the number that's in my
00:42:06.620 head where I'm like, I'd like to
00:42:08.180 make it to 85.
00:42:09.080 That feels like a good target.
00:42:10.580 That would mean I got about 40
00:42:11.760 years left.
00:42:13.000 And I want to ideally deal with
00:42:16.520 the medical system as little as
00:42:18.940 I possibly can.
00:42:20.080 I'll give you an example, Buck.
00:42:21.020 I was just talking about this
00:42:21.880 off air and I'm going to give
00:42:23.080 them a plug here. 0.87
00:42:24.860 I'm over, I'm 46.
00:42:26.480 And so they say, hey, you need
00:42:27.560 to get a colonoscopy, right?
00:42:29.640 Like, I don't want to go to the
00:42:31.160 doctor and get anything.
00:42:32.980 I, I, my wife has to get on me 1.00
00:42:35.220 to go get a physical.
00:42:36.520 Like, I just don't want to go to
00:42:37.580 the hospital.
00:42:38.240 I don't want anything.
00:42:40.280 I did this home colon, colon
00:42:42.340 guard thing.
00:42:43.640 It seems like an amazing invention.
00:42:45.680 I, I send off my samples.
00:42:48.120 They review it.
00:42:48.940 They say, you're good.
00:42:50.000 I don't have to spend two days
00:42:51.460 getting a colonoscopy, right?
00:42:53.440 I feel like we are over
00:42:55.020 medicated and I feel like many
00:42:57.240 parents out there feel this.
00:42:59.000 And you're asking yourselves,
00:43:00.540 is it imperative that my six
00:43:03.140 month old be stuck up like a
00:43:05.180 porcupine quill, uh, I don't
00:43:07.700 know that we need to be doing
00:43:09.100 it, particularly when all of
00:43:11.300 these drug companies, again,
00:43:12.660 this is important.
00:43:14.240 All of these drug companies
00:43:15.920 need you sick in order to 0.92
00:43:18.880 basically exist as companies. 0.98
00:43:20.340 Now I'm not maligning all
00:43:22.100 drugs because bucks pointed 0.71
00:43:23.200 out like, Hey, if you're
00:43:24.520 super bipolar, you need
00:43:26.420 treatment, right?
00:43:27.220 Like there are lots of things
00:43:28.540 out there where the drug
00:43:30.360 companies have done an amazing
00:43:31.540 job helping people who
00:43:32.700 otherwise would not be able to
00:43:34.100 exist in the larger society
00:43:35.580 to exist.
00:43:36.580 Or, or, you know, if you,
00:43:37.720 if you don't want to have a
00:43:38.420 heart attack, you know,
00:43:39.280 statins are really effective.
00:43:42.020 They save a lot of lives.
00:43:43.620 If you gave me a magic wand
00:43:44.920 and you just said, Clay,
00:43:46.300 you have the ability to do
00:43:48.660 something for healthcare
00:43:49.600 aside from, you know, Hey,
00:43:51.040 everybody lives healthy to be
00:43:52.140 a hundred, right?
00:43:53.180 Um, you know, something like
00:43:54.460 that.
00:43:54.760 I think we could swipe out
00:43:56.360 kids in particular.
00:43:57.820 I think we could swipe out
00:43:59.160 75% of all medical
00:44:00.960 treatment on kids.
00:44:01.960 And I think kids would have
00:44:03.480 maybe a better health
00:44:05.080 outcome than drugging them
00:44:07.080 up.
00:44:07.300 Like we have done.
00:44:08.300 This is the great unasked
00:44:10.280 or, or unanswered, I
00:44:11.320 should say question, uh, in
00:44:13.420 the post Obamacare world,
00:44:14.800 because really what Obamacare
00:44:16.040 was, it just made all of our
00:44:17.720 healthcare more expensive to
00:44:18.940 subsidize, uh, some people
00:44:20.460 including illegals, as we
00:44:21.540 know, to pay less for their
00:44:22.520 healthcare.
00:44:23.440 And it was a massive
00:44:24.540 Medicare, I'm sorry,
00:44:25.980 Medicaid, Medicaid
00:44:27.440 expansion and the most, uh,
00:44:30.880 thorough, it's called the
00:44:31.940 Oregon study, the most
00:44:33.500 thorough randomized controlled
00:44:35.120 study of healthcare outcomes
00:44:36.600 ever, uh, for Medicaid
00:44:38.420 patients showed that having
00:44:39.800 Medicaid or not having
00:44:40.720 Medicaid made no difference
00:44:42.420 in actual healthcare
00:44:43.340 outcomes.
00:44:43.820 None, not discernible in the
00:44:45.360 least.
00:44:45.680 Yes.
00:44:46.000 So you say, well, where'd all
00:44:46.840 this, what are you spending
00:44:47.620 all this money on?
00:44:48.820 Where, where's all the money
00:44:50.100 going?
00:44:50.760 And that's when you really
00:44:52.000 start to see things.
00:44:53.020 And, uh, and you know, one
00:44:54.320 of the failures of the
00:44:56.440 failure of Obamacare as a
00:44:57.640 parent, but I just look at
00:44:58.500 the cost of the average
00:44:59.380 healthcare premium over the
00:45:00.440 last decade.
00:45:01.520 Do you think, are you getting
00:45:03.080 better healthcare now?
00:45:03.920 You are absolutely not.
00:45:05.220 And in fact, your healthcare
00:45:06.440 premium has gone up 150%,
00:45:08.400 something like that on
00:45:09.340 average.
00:45:10.000 So yeah, it was healthcare
00:45:12.360 socialism, everybody.
00:45:13.520 They just did it in a clever
00:45:15.120 and, uh, and creative way,
00:45:17.000 including lying about it.
00:45:18.700 What do you think the most
00:45:19.400 hated company that everybody
00:45:20.560 has to deal with on a
00:45:21.580 regular basis is?
00:45:23.020 It used to be a cable
00:45:23.960 company, which I know, but
00:45:25.560 it used to be the cable
00:45:26.220 company, which I actually,
00:45:27.320 I always thought the cable
00:45:28.300 company thing was good
00:45:29.120 because it showed you what
00:45:30.160 it was a lesson in
00:45:31.060 monopoly for everybody
00:45:32.180 because monopolies are
00:45:34.580 bad.
00:45:35.340 True monopolies are bad.
00:45:36.760 And they're only enabled
00:45:37.740 by the state.
00:45:38.560 My kids don't believe this.
00:45:39.980 I was telling them about
00:45:40.740 it.
00:45:40.860 I was like, they were
00:45:41.700 like, how did you used to
00:45:42.800 get, you know, games on?
00:45:43.740 I was like, well, we had
00:45:44.300 to get cable.
00:45:44.800 And they were like, well,
00:45:45.240 how does cable get?
00:45:45.960 And I was like, you move
00:45:47.040 into a new apartment and
00:45:48.560 the cable guy would be
00:45:49.480 like, Hey, I'm going to
00:45:51.000 show up at some point
00:45:52.180 between 8 p.m.
00:45:53.380 and 6 p.m.
00:45:54.660 And you basically had a
00:45:55.780 8 a.m.
00:45:56.120 8 a.m.
00:45:56.880 Sorry, 8 a.m.
00:45:57.800 And like all day, they
00:45:58.920 didn't give you like in a
00:45:59.740 couple of hours and they
00:46:01.040 would say they would show
00:46:02.120 up.
00:46:02.340 You had to sit there and
00:46:03.020 wait for them.
00:46:03.640 And if you weren't there,
00:46:04.260 they didn't show you had
00:46:06.220 to call and say, pretty
00:46:07.800 please, I'll bake you 0.64
00:46:09.000 cookies.
00:46:09.460 Come tomorrow or the next
00:46:11.000 day.
00:46:11.200 Like you were, they had
00:46:12.380 you at their mercy.
00:46:14.100 And that was reality.
00:46:15.340 I remember one time when I
00:46:16.180 was in college, pretty girl
00:46:17.560 down the hall, we were
00:46:19.860 jealous.
00:46:20.200 Like, how did you get your
00:46:22.220 cable hooked up already?
00:46:23.480 And she was like, I put on
00:46:24.520 a tank top when the cable
00:46:26.040 guy was walking down the
00:46:26.920 hall.
00:46:27.120 And I was like, Hey, can I
00:46:28.180 get you to come?
00:46:29.060 And it's like, yeah,
00:46:29.760 cable guys.
00:46:30.420 Like, yeah, of course.
00:46:31.560 They call this the Sydney
00:46:32.580 Sweeney effect.
00:46:33.600 Yes.
00:46:34.760 Cable guy.
00:46:35.580 Go figure.
00:46:36.160 Sees a pretty girl in a 1.00
00:46:37.260 tank top.
00:46:37.900 He finds a way to get her
00:46:38.920 cable hooked up.
00:46:39.900 It's not even a movie.
00:46:41.580 Although I've heard those
00:46:42.460 kind of movies.
00:46:43.600 You'd be amazed what people
00:46:45.300 can find when it's time to
00:46:46.280 move out of their family 0.99
00:46:47.140 home after years, even
00:46:49.020 decades.
00:46:49.620 We're going through the
00:46:50.260 process right now of moving
00:46:51.980 out of my house and we are
00:46:53.580 taking all of the family
00:46:55.140 photos off the bookshelves,
00:46:57.200 everything else.
00:46:58.280 We are stacking them up.
00:46:59.660 And I am thinking right now,
00:47:01.960 even for relatively recent
00:47:04.060 photos, man, we really need
00:47:06.060 to get these digitally
00:47:07.000 preserved because my kids
00:47:09.120 were born, the first one
00:47:10.220 in 08.
00:47:11.720 And that was before
00:47:13.080 everything had taken off
00:47:14.700 necessarily.
00:47:16.200 You had the digital cameras,
00:47:17.340 if you remember those days,
00:47:18.440 but you still printed out
00:47:19.780 a lot of the photos.
00:47:21.540 And a lot of those early
00:47:22.840 baby pictures for my son
00:47:24.700 are not now digitized.
00:47:26.720 We need to take care of
00:47:27.460 that.
00:47:28.040 And you probably have got
00:47:29.680 those if you got kids
00:47:30.800 around my age, but you've
00:47:31.960 also got tons of photos
00:47:34.200 from when you were a kid,
00:47:35.400 probably from when your
00:47:36.480 parents were kids,
00:47:37.560 maybe when your
00:47:38.220 grandparents were kids.
00:47:39.840 Do you want to preserve
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00:49:11.320 Appreciate all of you
00:49:12.200 hanging out with us.
00:49:13.160 We're rolling through the
00:49:14.140 Thursday edition of the
00:49:15.520 program.
00:49:16.100 We bring in our friend,
00:49:17.880 Dr. Nicole Sapphire, part
00:49:19.400 of the Clay and Buck
00:49:20.040 podcast network.
00:49:20.940 You can also see her
00:49:21.700 regularly on Fox News.
00:49:23.160 She does fantastic work
00:49:24.280 across the media spectrum.
00:49:26.560 And Dr.
00:49:27.500 Sapphire, we will start
00:49:28.920 with the fireworks that
00:49:30.880 have just come as
00:49:32.700 Senator, sorry, Senator,
00:49:34.560 as the as as Robert
00:49:36.420 Kennedy was testifying in
00:49:37.800 front of many different
00:49:39.800 senators out there about
00:49:41.500 what exactly is going on
00:49:43.800 as it pertains to to rules
00:49:46.720 on COVID shots and rules on
00:49:49.240 vaccines in general and
00:49:50.860 science and everything else.
00:49:52.360 What did you take away from
00:49:55.100 that testimony and how
00:49:57.400 would you assess what is
00:49:58.900 going on right now from a
00:50:01.080 health care perspective?
00:50:02.960 Hey, guys, thanks so much
00:50:04.240 for having me on.
00:50:05.060 Yeah, I'll tell you, I
00:50:05.980 tried to live stream as
00:50:07.220 much as that Senate
00:50:08.480 Finance Community
00:50:09.700 Committee with RFK
00:50:11.360 Junior as I could.
00:50:12.200 I'm in the hospital myself,
00:50:13.720 so in between patients.
00:50:15.000 But, you know, there were
00:50:16.040 a lot of fireworks.
00:50:16.920 There were name calling.
00:50:17.880 There were yelling.
00:50:18.660 There was eye rolling.
00:50:19.820 I mean, people were
00:50:20.380 frustrated.
00:50:20.840 But here's what I find as
00:50:23.460 a lay person, but also
00:50:24.740 someone in the medical
00:50:26.280 community.
00:50:27.100 What I find frustrating
00:50:28.140 watching here.
00:50:29.100 This was all about people
00:50:30.360 just trying to get talking
00:50:31.780 points out for media
00:50:33.820 headlines.
00:50:34.700 This was not a
00:50:36.200 conversation.
00:50:37.080 This is not for the
00:50:37.920 greater good of America.
00:50:39.140 What happens in these
00:50:40.700 committee hearings?
00:50:41.460 And that is what I find
00:50:42.580 the most frustrating.
00:50:43.780 I think RFK Junior,
00:50:45.040 Secretary Kennedy, I thought
00:50:46.100 he had made some really
00:50:46.940 strong points.
00:50:48.120 I think some of the
00:50:48.820 senators made some really
00:50:50.180 strong points.
00:50:51.380 And ultimately, I think
00:50:52.740 that there was more
00:50:53.520 arguing of semantics
00:50:54.860 than anything at all.
00:50:57.040 And unfortunately for me,
00:50:58.580 looking at this from the
00:50:59.580 outside in, you know,
00:51:01.040 throughout all of COVID,
00:51:02.120 we became a very
00:51:03.100 fractured society.
00:51:04.060 And all of a sudden,
00:51:04.880 we have weaponized
00:51:06.020 public health.
00:51:06.800 We have politicized it.
00:51:08.360 And I was all I'm looking
00:51:09.880 for is what are we going
00:51:11.280 to do to bring the
00:51:12.460 country together to try
00:51:13.940 and get politics out of
00:51:15.260 public health, out of our
00:51:16.560 health care system as best
00:51:17.680 we can.
00:51:18.140 And I mean, you never
00:51:18.800 will be able to
00:51:19.960 completely, but the best
00:51:21.280 we can.
00:51:21.700 And how are we going
00:51:22.220 to unify the nation?
00:51:23.640 And unfortunately,
00:51:24.660 watching some of this
00:51:26.360 tells me that we are
00:51:27.860 nowhere closer to
00:51:29.300 unifying the nation
00:51:30.140 as we were four years
00:51:31.260 ago.
00:51:32.340 Well, I want to have
00:51:33.120 you react here to an
00:51:34.180 exchange, Dr.
00:51:35.680 Sapphire, between RFK
00:51:37.580 Junior and Senator
00:51:38.760 Wyden.
00:51:39.820 It's about 40 seconds
00:51:41.040 long.
00:51:41.360 This is cut 18.
00:51:42.480 Hit it.
00:51:42.980 I don't see any
00:51:43.900 evidence that you have
00:51:44.780 any regrets about
00:51:45.860 anything you've done
00:51:46.860 or plans to change
00:51:47.880 it.
00:51:48.380 And my last comment
00:51:49.320 is I hope that you
00:51:51.580 will tell the American
00:51:52.740 people how many
00:51:54.340 preventable child
00:51:56.100 deaths are an
00:51:57.420 acceptable sacrifice
00:51:58.800 for enacting an
00:52:00.220 agenda that I think
00:52:01.680 is fundamentally cruel
00:52:03.140 and defies common
00:52:04.100 sense.
00:52:04.680 Senator, you've sat
00:52:05.800 in that chair for
00:52:07.240 how long?
00:52:08.080 20, 25 years while
00:52:09.760 the chronic disease
00:52:11.080 in our children went
00:52:11.840 up to 76 percent.
00:52:13.400 And you said nothing.
00:52:14.400 You never ask the
00:52:15.440 question why it's
00:52:16.260 happening.
00:52:16.720 Why is this happening
00:52:17.760 today for the first
00:52:19.120 time in 20 years?
00:52:20.580 We learned that infant
00:52:21.880 mortality has increased
00:52:23.320 in our country.
00:52:24.220 It's not because I came
00:52:25.260 in here.
00:52:25.780 It's because of what
00:52:26.420 happened during the
00:52:27.060 Biden administration
00:52:27.820 that we're going to
00:52:28.520 end.
00:52:29.560 How much, Dr.
00:52:30.700 Sapphire, of the
00:52:31.880 apparent animosity
00:52:33.240 that these Democrat
00:52:34.060 senators show toward
00:52:35.520 RFK Junior is because
00:52:37.360 he's RFK Junior and
00:52:38.460 they don't like what he
00:52:39.180 has stood for in the
00:52:39.800 past or just because he
00:52:41.140 happened to be Trump's
00:52:42.020 HHS guy?
00:52:42.860 Yeah, so that's a
00:52:44.480 great question.
00:52:45.080 And first of all, that
00:52:45.980 was one of RFK Junior's
00:52:47.740 strongest messages, in
00:52:49.380 my opinion, during that
00:52:50.460 hearing, was everybody
00:52:51.740 was criticizing him.
00:52:53.640 And he's like, it turned 0.99
00:52:55.080 to crap under you guys. 0.98
00:52:56.680 You've been in office for 1.00
00:52:57.940 decades sitting on this
00:52:59.620 committee.
00:53:00.380 And this is the first
00:53:01.320 time we're having these
00:53:02.120 conversations about making
00:53:03.260 people healthier again.
00:53:04.180 So I thought that was
00:53:05.120 rather cheeky, but also
00:53:06.520 very poignant.
00:53:08.420 You know, Senator Wyden
00:53:09.420 came out saying that he is
00:53:10.700 going to be releasing a
00:53:11.600 report today.
00:53:12.360 He asked to put it into
00:53:14.300 evidence that supposedly
00:53:16.480 will show the damage to
00:53:17.740 health care of the
00:53:18.560 American people done under 0.96
00:53:20.260 RFK Junior, highlighting
00:53:21.760 chaos, corruption, and
00:53:23.260 higher health care costs.
00:53:24.840 And yet he said these
00:53:26.100 things, but we did not see
00:53:27.780 that report or the data.
00:53:29.380 So again, Wyden, I
00:53:30.680 thought, was trying to get
00:53:31.660 some of those talking
00:53:32.320 points.
00:53:33.140 At the end of the day,
00:53:34.080 and this is something I've
00:53:34.940 said now, you know, for the
00:53:36.360 last several weeks that I get
00:53:37.740 some criticism on, is that we
00:53:40.120 already know Trump derangement
00:53:41.500 syndrome is real.
00:53:42.880 I mean, one of these days
00:53:43.860 it'll be a diagnosable
00:53:45.380 condition that as a medical
00:53:46.720 doctor, I can code it and
00:53:47.920 it'll be a true diagnosis.
00:53:49.780 But the RFK derangement
00:53:52.020 syndrome is real as well.
00:53:53.140 And so for me, maybe he is
00:53:55.180 not the perfect messenger to
00:53:56.900 be out in front of the camera
00:53:58.060 talking about the work that
00:53:59.480 they're doing behind the
00:54:00.460 scenes.
00:54:01.240 He is bringing a ton of
00:54:02.660 insight and a ton of
00:54:03.600 innovation and a whole new
00:54:05.160 thought process to the HHS.
00:54:07.240 They're finally starting to
00:54:08.480 look at root causes of
00:54:10.240 chronic illness.
00:54:10.900 They're trying to make a
00:54:12.440 systems more efficient.
00:54:14.040 These are all great things.
00:54:15.180 But the moment he steps in
00:54:17.340 front of the camera or gets
00:54:18.840 behind the microphone, half
00:54:20.520 of the country is turning it
00:54:21.520 off, just like they always do
00:54:22.580 with President Trump.
00:54:23.540 And so when it comes to
00:54:24.900 public health, it would be
00:54:26.160 great for me if there was
00:54:27.540 another spokesperson who
00:54:29.040 actually came out to deliver
00:54:30.340 that message.
00:54:31.020 Because as you see, if you
00:54:32.580 look at social media right now,
00:54:33.740 people are just making fun of
00:54:34.840 Secretary Kennedy.
00:54:35.640 They're making fun of the
00:54:36.600 fact that he was breathing
00:54:37.460 heavily into the microphone.
00:54:39.400 Forget the fact that he has a
00:54:40.820 neurological condition and
00:54:42.080 what they're doing actually is
00:54:43.780 grossly inappropriate by
00:54:46.580 making fun of someone.
00:54:48.140 But they don't like him.
00:54:49.900 And that's the bottom line.
00:54:51.820 Dr.
00:54:52.400 Sapphire, I think the biggest
00:54:54.580 issue that we face as a
00:54:56.240 country as it pertains to
00:54:57.820 public health is in the wake
00:54:59.520 of COVID, many people, myself
00:55:01.480 included, have lost all faith
00:55:03.860 and public health so-called
00:55:05.760 experts to give us the best
00:55:07.540 possible advice.
00:55:09.120 What would your advice be to
00:55:11.060 try to cure what I believe is
00:55:13.680 the biggest issue in America
00:55:15.300 today, which is just lack of
00:55:16.880 trust in the wake of what
00:55:18.640 happened with COVID?
00:55:20.960 I mean, that's a very
00:55:21.880 complicated question, and
00:55:23.460 there's not going to be a one
00:55:24.600 size fits all answer to that.
00:55:27.140 But part of that is going to be
00:55:28.860 getting people that are well
00:55:30.700 respected on both sides of the
00:55:32.400 aisle, into the HHS, into the
00:55:34.740 CDC.
00:55:35.860 We undermine trust when we
00:55:38.400 like right now, what we're
00:55:39.680 dealing with right now, and
00:55:40.660 you're looking at the
00:55:41.780 conversation is surrounding
00:55:42.980 vaccines.
00:55:44.960 The CDC, we're seeing the
00:55:47.520 fallout from what happened
00:55:48.600 because not only are parents
00:55:50.060 questioning the COVID
00:55:50.960 vaccines because the CDC
00:55:52.560 doubled down on the mandates
00:55:54.640 long after science changed.
00:55:57.220 The reality is now parents are
00:55:59.060 questioning all vaccines and
00:56:00.280 just really questioning public
00:56:01.900 health in general.
00:56:03.720 And so we have to take a big
00:56:04.860 step back.
00:56:06.000 And what was settled science
00:56:07.780 for the last several decades,
00:56:09.000 if people truly believe that
00:56:10.940 it's still settled science and
00:56:12.380 the data is there to support
00:56:13.720 it, then you need to show the
00:56:15.280 data.
00:56:15.720 Because just saying, well, this
00:56:17.780 is what's the right thing to
00:56:19.620 do, that doesn't work anymore.
00:56:21.600 We can't have that paternalistic
00:56:23.140 attitude when we're talking to
00:56:24.840 the American people because the
00:56:25.960 American people are educated.
00:56:27.880 They want to make informed
00:56:28.960 decisions.
00:56:30.240 And when you have this digital
00:56:31.460 era where all of a sudden
00:56:33.440 they're realizing that the
00:56:35.000 truth is at their fingertips
00:56:36.240 and it's not necessarily just
00:56:37.800 from the mouthpieces that
00:56:38.940 they're seeing from the CDC or
00:56:40.320 whatnot, you have to make sure
00:56:42.320 that you are being very
00:56:43.600 nuanced in the recommendations
00:56:45.000 for public health.
00:56:46.460 Part of that is going to be
00:56:47.480 right now, RFK Jr.
00:56:49.220 is having to put together the
00:56:50.580 vaccine advisory committee.
00:56:52.500 He got rid of all the original
00:56:54.180 members because he said that
00:56:55.780 they were essentially all part of
00:56:57.260 the industry standard and it was
00:56:58.960 time for them to go.
00:57:00.240 And while he may not disagree
00:57:01.320 with a lot of them needing to
00:57:02.980 go, he's kind of swinging that
00:57:05.080 pendulum far the other way by
00:57:07.080 putting all new members on that
00:57:08.820 are part of his inner circle and
00:57:10.740 his inner thinking.
00:57:11.980 We have to make sure that we have
00:57:14.000 full dialogue and debate on these
00:57:16.160 committees.
00:57:16.780 So we can't just go from one
00:57:18.320 inner circle to the next.
00:57:19.500 We need to start building these
00:57:21.140 institutions with people who are
00:57:23.160 going to last much longer than just
00:57:25.400 an administration.
00:57:27.680 Are there just way too many
00:57:28.900 vaccines, Dr.
00:57:29.880 Sapphire, in your opinion, in the
00:57:32.040 suggested schedule for
00:57:34.480 children?
00:57:35.280 I think the number we had Dr.
00:57:37.620 McCary on and he said it was
00:57:39.040 something like 70 or something
00:57:41.440 along those lines over the course
00:57:43.040 of now.
00:57:43.480 I know some of those are multiple
00:57:44.440 shots and they're given over years.
00:57:45.860 That does seem like that just
00:57:47.500 seems like a lot of shots.
00:57:49.040 Sure.
00:57:49.480 So in my humble opinion, I think
00:57:51.180 that we need to look at the
00:57:53.520 recommended childhood vaccine
00:57:55.440 schedule.
00:57:56.600 What's happening in Florida where
00:57:57.960 they're just trying to do away with
00:57:59.260 all vaccine mandates.
00:58:00.400 That's a completely different
00:58:01.620 conversation.
00:58:02.500 What I'm talking about is not
00:58:04.120 necessarily implementing
00:58:05.760 mandates or recalling or, you
00:58:07.840 know, getting rid of the
00:58:08.540 mandates.
00:58:08.880 I'm like, let's reevaluate what
00:58:10.480 we're even recommending.
00:58:11.940 Can we change the timeline?
00:58:13.980 Does every single child need all
00:58:15.940 of these vaccines?
00:58:16.680 Because the reality is not all
00:58:18.200 vaccines are created equal.
00:58:20.020 Lumping them together just
00:58:21.120 completely erases the science.
00:58:23.280 The MMR vaccine, the one with 0.99
00:58:24.760 measles, that provides decades
00:58:26.700 of protection while the
00:58:28.520 pertussis one, that immunity
00:58:30.100 wanes within months.
00:58:31.960 And the public health messaging
00:58:33.480 has to acknowledge the
00:58:34.920 differences because we're
00:58:36.000 undermining trust when we
00:58:37.820 pretend that every vaccine
00:58:39.420 works the same.
00:58:40.720 And Americans truly deserve
00:58:42.300 nuance.
00:58:43.020 I think we can we can change
00:58:45.500 the vaccine schedule.
00:58:46.360 We can actually decrease the
00:58:47.700 amount of vaccines children
00:58:49.180 get without risking the safety
00:58:51.260 of the individual child or the
00:58:53.200 community.
00:58:53.600 But it just means you have to
00:58:55.100 open up that conversation and
00:58:56.940 you have to be willing to have
00:58:58.120 that conversation because
00:58:59.200 unfortunately, you have a lot
00:59:00.880 of people who have a head.
00:59:02.000 They're heading to stand right
00:59:03.020 now with that vacuum thought
00:59:05.160 mentality of, well, if you
00:59:06.980 start changing it now, you're
00:59:09.060 going to change the whole thing
00:59:10.060 and that's going to creep in
00:59:11.000 vaccine hesitancy.
00:59:12.300 But if you don't acknowledge the
00:59:14.080 people's concerns and you don't
00:59:15.580 acknowledge all vaccines aren't
00:59:17.000 created equal, you're actually
00:59:18.580 promoting vaccine hesitancy more
00:59:20.360 than anyone else.
00:59:22.120 How can people find your podcast
00:59:24.780 and dive in if they haven't
00:59:27.080 already, Dr.
00:59:27.860 Sapphire?
00:59:28.800 Well, thanks to you guys.
00:59:29.920 Wellness Unmasked with Dr.
00:59:31.200 Nicole Sapphire is part of the
00:59:32.600 Clay and Buck family.
00:59:33.860 We have a weekly rundown every
00:59:35.900 Friday at 10 a.m.
00:59:37.320 with about just five minutes of me
00:59:39.140 telling you what happened that
00:59:40.400 week.
00:59:40.660 We're going to go all through the
00:59:42.040 hearing tomorrow and then on
00:59:44.280 Tuesdays dropping at 10
00:59:45.780 Wellness Unmasked, you have a
00:59:47.260 longer full episode.
00:59:48.800 Next week, you'll hear me with
00:59:50.560 Jennifer Ghilardi.
00:59:51.960 She's the Senior Policy Analyst for
00:59:53.840 Restoring American Wellness at the
00:59:55.720 Heritage Foundation.
00:59:57.120 We talk all things make America
00:59:58.800 healthy again.
00:59:59.860 We get into a little bit of a
01:00:01.040 healthy debate on some things and
01:00:02.720 I'll tell you, it's a great
01:00:04.040 interview.
01:00:04.740 So please make sure to catch it
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01:00:09.020 Okay, I gave you all that, but I
01:00:12.700 meant to ask you this as well.
01:00:14.040 So I encourage you to go follow
01:00:15.980 Dr.
01:00:16.400 Sapphire on the Clay and Buck
01:00:17.440 podcast network.
01:00:18.860 Wellness Unmasked, Dr.
01:00:20.160 Sapphire.
01:00:21.260 Tremendous collection of talent
01:00:22.580 there.
01:00:23.520 What's the worst date you've ever
01:00:25.240 been on, doctor?
01:00:26.140 Because Buck brought up the
01:00:27.780 English patient.
01:00:28.980 I realized that I went on a high
01:00:30.360 school date to watch that movie,
01:00:31.820 which was not a great movie to go
01:00:33.240 on as a high schooler.
01:00:34.420 We just had Katie Miller on. 1.00
01:00:36.300 Do you recall the worst date that
01:00:38.960 you've ever been on in your life?
01:00:40.280 Is there one that stands out?
01:00:42.120 I think the worst date I've ever
01:00:43.480 been on in my life was my first
01:00:44.820 kind of date, or not even a date,
01:00:46.820 but when I met my husband.
01:00:48.480 Because we actually met in a wine
01:00:50.680 bar during a medical conference,
01:00:52.440 but I was drinking hot tea and
01:00:55.680 this guy comes up to me and he
01:00:57.680 starts, he's thinking that my tea
01:00:59.680 is spiked and the whole time he
01:01:01.920 just cannot believe that I'm just
01:01:03.600 drinking herbal tea while sitting
01:01:05.780 in a wine bar.
01:01:06.520 And it was very awkward and very
01:01:08.400 uncomfortable.
01:01:09.240 And 20 years later, we're married
01:01:11.000 with kids.
01:01:11.780 Wait, how did he, how did he make
01:01:13.060 the transition?
01:01:13.960 Like, how, yeah, what?
01:01:14.900 Yeah.
01:01:15.180 Like, how did he go from like,
01:01:16.500 Hey, like, I think something's
01:01:17.640 been spiked in your tea to, I'd like
01:01:19.840 your phone number.
01:01:21.080 Oh, he was asking for my phone
01:01:22.740 number the whole time.
01:01:23.800 It took about two years for us to
01:01:25.880 actually go on a date, but the man
01:01:28.240 was persistence.
01:01:28.920 And I'll tell you, persistence pays
01:01:30.680 off.
01:01:31.020 I had a very wise man tell me for
01:01:33.720 many years, persistence is the key
01:01:35.280 in all things.
01:01:36.220 So there you go.
01:01:37.120 Dr. Sapphire. 0.81
01:01:38.160 Thank you so much.
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