BONUS： Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Apr 17 2025
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Summary
Join Buck and Clay as they discuss the arrest of an alleged MS-13 gang member in the United States, as well as a special guest who appeared in the White House to speak out on the matter, Patty Morin, whose daughter was killed by an illegal immigrant in Maryland.
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Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off right now.
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Harvard, also known as Harvard, some of our Bostonite listeners, is facing an IRS move
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under Trump's administration to rescind the tax-exempt status of this storied university.
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And this is getting a lot of attention from Democrats who realize that their cathedral,
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if you will, which is elite higher education, is coming under pressure in a way that they
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We also have that, I don't think we got to the DOJ transgender athlete main story yesterday,
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We had mentioned it, so we want to spend a little time on that one today.
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And it goes to the issues of safety concerns and whether there are safety concerns for
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some of the, or yeah, for young women who end up having to compete with these individuals
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We had a special guest yesterday who appeared in the White House to speak out, Patty Morin,
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whose daughter was killed by an illegal alien in Maryland.
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She spoke at the White House, and that will bring you some of her thoughts.
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Also, Clay, just a little side note, because I'll take any excuse to throw shade at George
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George Clooney was sitting down with CNN to talk about the bravery of writing his op-ed
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to finally say that Biden, it is not brave when you are caught.
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I'm just going to say there is no bravery when your team has already fumbled the ball and
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the other team is trying to take it into your end zone.
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But first thing, though, Clay, I know you are deep on the reading on this one.
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You were going deep down the rabbit hole because new information came out while the Maryland
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Democrat senator was down in El Salvador yesterday.
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There are a lot of memes flying around about this that some of you may have seen online.
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But the Maryland senator who went down there decided that he was going to make Mr.
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This is now the primary method, the primary avenue of attack against the Trump administration.
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I think, Clay, we're getting into a place where they have made this all about due process
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And I think there's a strong argument for Trump at this point that you can't have an
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illegal brought back into America for the purpose of kicking him out of America.
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There's just something inherently crazy about that.
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But also their their their martyr in this case, Mr.
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Abrego Garcia, we have found out this may be a politically forget about the legal wrangling.
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This may be a politically unwise choice for Democrats to go all in for the return of this
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I said six months ago when Trump won that I thought the resistance to a large extent on
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a deportation front would come when Democrats found an individual that they believed was
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unjustly deported and tried to use that anecdote as a way to attack the entire country.
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And they picked this Kilmar Garcia guy and said, oh, my goodness, this is a Maryland dad.
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There's no basis whatsoever to have deported him.
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And evidence keeps coming out that this is totally wrong and embarrassing.
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And after we went off the air yesterday, the police reports, which I think we hinted were
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coming of him for being an alleged wife beater were released and they're bad.
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Look, domestic violence is always difficult for the courts to reconcile because many times
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women end up staying with the man that they accuse of domestic abuse.
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But the detail, the evidence, it's pretty awful.
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And it suggests that this guy is a wife beater.
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On top of that, there also was a subsequent report from the Tennessee Star that this illegal
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immigrant gang member was pulled over in the state of Tennessee with seven different individuals
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in his car that the state of Tennessee police believed was human trafficking and that they
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then made a call to the FBI in the Biden regime and the Biden regime FBI said, let him go.
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So just factually now, Buck, and a lot of this has been released.
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You can go look it up for yourself if somebody on your Facebook page is talking about this
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This guy was arrested with gang members in gang paraphernalia in cash and adjudicated
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MS-13 gang member per evidence from authorities is in the state of Maryland.
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A documented wife beater in the state of Tennessee, according to the report from the Tennessee Star
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was pulled over and suspected of human trafficking and let go by the Biden FBI and he is illegally
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All of this is undisputed, factually accurate information.
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And the Democrats decided that this is the hill that they will fight on.
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This is where they need to draw the line on who needs to be let back in the country such
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that one of the 47 Democrat senators traveled to the state of Maryland, sorry, from the state
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of Maryland to El Salvador to try and argue that that individual needed to be let back into
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I would expect that you will see an attempt to kind of run from this guy and pretend that
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all of this has not happened because for all of it to come out, I can't think of a less
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positive face for the deportation is wrong movement than the guy basically that they have
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And I thought the Trump administration yesterday with the mom of the Maryland resident, sadly,
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who was beaten to death by an illegal immigrant.
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She was the special guest for Caroline Leavitt in the White House press briefing room.
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The mom's story was hard to hear, I think, for anyone out there.
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But she wanted to share what happened to her daughter.
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And I think the Maryland sort of juxtaposition between an American citizen being brutally beaten,
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raped to death and what's going on with Maryland's senator is just awful optics.
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Here is here is this mother that Clay was just talking about speaking yesterday in the White
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Cut to to have a senator from Maryland who didn't even acknowledge or barely acknowledged my daughter
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and the brutal death that she endured, leaving her five children without a mother and now a grandbaby
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without a grandmother, so that he can use my taxpayer money to fly to El Salvador to bring back someone
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Why does that person have more right than I do or my daughter or my grandchildren?
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Clay, somehow the rule of law means that illegals have all of these layers upon layers of processes
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But there aren't all these layers and layers to prevent them from coming into the country.
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Those laws don't get focused on, don't get talked about by Democrats.
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And also, and I know that this is something that Democrats would find very contentious,
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Of course, if you let 10 million people into the country with no vetting who are illegals,
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you're going to let murderers, rapists, gang members in.
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Biden and his cronies and his handlers and the Democrat leadership and the machinery around it
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decided to let in these people that there's no question about this because now it's down 95 percent.
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And that decision led to dangerous illegals.
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I know it's a small percentage of the overall illegals who came into the country.
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None of them are supposed to be here under the law.
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Dangerous illegals, which resulted in things like Laken Riley's rape and murder,
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which resulted in things like Patty Morin's daughter being killed.
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And the government now gets all of the Democrats, I should say,
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get all haughty about the due process rights of non-Americans.
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I mean, I think people have just realized, no, we're not doing this thing anymore.
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We don't do this thing where there are all these special rights for illegals,
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but Americans are told too hard to enforce the law.
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So all these illegals have special privileges.
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I mean, a question for anybody out there listening right now is there.
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Is there a single person who thinks this guy should be brought back into the country?
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I mean, I would love to hear the argument for why a wife-beating gang member
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that the state of Tennessee believed was engaged in illegal human trafficking
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when he was pulled over a couple of years ago, illegally in this country,
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Why should he have been here in the first place?
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He'll say, oh, you know, you don't hear both sides of an argument.
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Why should this guy be brought back into the country?
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Is there a single person out there listening to us,
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biggest radio show in the country that's on air right now,
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is there a single one of you that believes that this guy should be brought back?
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who legitimately believe there should be no borders basically anywhere in the world
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that would say, oh, this guy should be brought back.
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you know who hasn't really spoken up very much about this?
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I think he sees this politically and he says, wait a minute,
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why would I put my legitimacy as the governor of the citizens of Maryland
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on the line over a wife-beating gang member from El Salvador
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who is illegally here and may well have been involved in human trafficking
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based on getting pulled over per a Tennessee police report?
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I mean, I don't even know what the argument is.
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I also would say, why are Democrats clearly more mobilized and outraged
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over this situation than over anything that has happened to an American
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at the hands of an illegal alien criminal over the last four years?
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So it's not like we're just picking two random things
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and, oh, well, it's a busy world and there's a lot of things they can focus on.
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There is not a single instance of Democrats deciding that they are going to mobilize
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and make a national issue of anyone who has been raped, murdered, carjacked, assaulted by,
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I don't just mean an illegal in this generic sense of, well, there's a lot of illegals.
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Clay, illegals who have already had deportation orders, who have already been arrested,
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who have had sanctuary cities decide they weren't going to share information with the feds,
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who have, the Democrats have been complicit in all of this.
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They are openly complicit in this violation of sovereignty, this violation of law,
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Man, the only things I want to say to them I can't say on the radio without getting a fine.
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I will just point out something that I said yesterday.
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Who you choose to be the avatar of your policy matters a great deal.
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And they have chosen poorly, in the words of the last crusade, Indiana Jones, right?
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They have chosen a very poor individual to be the stand-in for why Trump's deportation orders
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are cruel and unnecessary and unfair and potentially illegal.
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The United States public overwhelmingly says a wife-beating illegal immigrant,
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human trafficker potentially, who is not supposed to be here, gang member of MS-13.
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I thought the Democrats would at least play along a bit with the,
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we're going to deport the illegal criminal MS-13 types, but what about the Dreamers?
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You know, what about the hardworking so-and-so and so-and-so who are, no, they're actually,
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The Democrat Party's actual emotional position on this is they all should stay.
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And I don't just mean the ones who we all know people that work hard,
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who are in the country illegally, and, you know, that it gets to be a more interesting conversation.
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I still think if you're illegal, you should have to go home to your home country.
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But they think that the gang members also should stay.
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This is like, they're in the fabric of America now.
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And I think this is going to blow up in the Maryland senator's face.
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And Harry Enten over at CNN said, I don't know if you've seen this yet, Buck.
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Most Americans support deporting all illegal immigrants now.
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This is a profound shift from when Trump first entered office.
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And certainly, I think it's a function of wherever you live,
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the 10 million-plus illegal immigrants who entered during Biden's term in office
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have changed the overall perspective on Americans when it comes on how to deal with illegal immigrants.
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Voters favoring the government trying to deport all 11 million of them.
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Back in 2016, just 38% of voters wanted the government to try to deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants.
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Compared to where we are in 2025, 56% the majority.
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The American people have come a long way on this issue, much closer to Donald Trump.
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And I think that's a big part of the reason why Americans are increasingly saying the country is on the right track
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when it comes to immigration policy and why Donald Trump's net approval rating on that issue is in the positive.
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Okay, 56% want all illegal immigrants sent back to their countries.
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Do you sign off on my 90-10 if you ask people,
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hey, illegal immigrant from El Salvador, gang member of MS-13, wife beater,
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potential human trafficker having been pulled over,
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if it's 56% for everybody, it's got to be 90-10, I think, for this guy in particular,
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which circles back around on Trump has won this issue for everyone,
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but in particular for this guy to become the avatar of Democrat resistance policy
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when it comes to illegal immigrants is, I think, an all-time miscalculation.
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Well, we know the Democrats are capable of the most epic political miscalculations
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because we've seen some of them recently, right?
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I think that was the ultimate political boomerang.
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They let that thing rip, and it has come back and whacked them right in the face.
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Now with Trump presidency 2.0, I think that running Biden to the point that they did,
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Those of us who thought they would push through, it's all right.
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How much longer do you think Biden needed to last in order for Buck Island to remain extant?
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Or do you think, in retrospect now, that they really would have gone nuclear,
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that the Chuck Schumers and the Nancy Pelosi's would have gone directly public to force him out?
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I believe that if a couple of things had gone a little bit differently
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and they had decided to put Biden forward and have him do a few live events,
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that they, I think it was razor, I mean, obviously, I thought he was going to be,
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I think it was razor's edge that they pushed him out.
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Like, I understand the polls showed that he had had a really bad,
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you know, really bad moment there, but I think he could have gained ground.
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And I think that we obviously saw that in the election.
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So I gave the Democrats credit for being savvier than they actually were in that instance,
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Who's really, you know, making the decisions from the top of the,
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and I mean that across the board, Democrat Party, CNN, MSNBC, Industrial Complex, New York Times.
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Who has the most power right now in the Democrat Party to set the agenda for Trump resistance?
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I mean, I think it's AOC, which we're going to talk more about.
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I mean, I think that they're trying to build her up.
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I think it might be Rachel Maddow, because I think she's the only person that has a substantial audience in the party.
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Have you ever seen her really tangling with people in public?
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All she does is the kind of standard anti-Trumpism on her show.
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She's not herding cats, so to speak, within the Democrat Party, right?
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That's why I think the nominee is going to be in 2028, someone who's not even in politics right now.
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And this is where, though, Clay, to the point about Abrego Garcia, them making another political blunder here,
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When you have young kids playing soccer, they all just crowd the ball, and nobody knows what's going on,
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and they're all just sort of kicking the ball at each other.
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I do think that if you look at what, let's leave aside the judiciary, because they have clearly emerged as Trump 2.0.
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They sort of haphazardly and almost drunkenly stumble from one talking point to another.
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It wasn't very long ago that everybody suddenly was saying, oh, you can't afford eggs now.
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They're actually lower than when Biden was in office.
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Stock market, same price it was roughly in September right now.
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That story, given that we have not seen as much vacillation in stock prices, that story has vanished.
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And, oh, oh, but actually he's a white beater and a human trafficker and a gang member and a bad dude.
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And so all of these things have kind of collapsed.
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And they do this with, this has been the case with the media for a long time.
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It's always, whenever an illegal does something horrible, it's, you know, Minnesota man, Maryland man, Kansas man.
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You are the person, it's either where, you know, it's either where you live and are from or your nationality.
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It doesn't get to be where you are at some period of time, right?
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If I crossed over state lines and got in trouble in Texas, nobody would say like, Texas man does it.
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I mean, they can't just make this up as they go along.
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We got a couple of callers, by the way, who want to weigh in.
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I totally agree I'm part of this to be trusted.
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All right, Shannon in South Dakota, what you got?
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Yeah, so the issue is, is good guy, bad guy, he was convicted of no crimes.
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I think one of the issues is, is that we deported him to a prison.
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We sent him to El Salvador, and El Salvador decided that he should be in prison there.
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Sure, and the reason that they didn't want to send him back there was fear of, you know, reprisal from other gang members or something like that.
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We don't control, we don't control what anybody does when we send him back to their country.
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But they violated his due process and illegally shipped him to a country where he was immediately put into prison.
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And we don't put people in prison for accusations.
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Pete Hegseth is not in prison for his accused rape.
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Well, Pete Hegseth is a citizen of the United States, and actually he was investigated by the state of California, and they determined that didn't happen.
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It was a he said, she said, just for clarification.
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When you investigate someone to see if they committed a crime, and you choose not to bring charges in that crime,
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that's pretty strong evidence that you didn't commit a crime, right?
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Because if you think that they might have committed a crime, and you are bringing charges,
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then you would take it to the jury to determine whether or not they committed a crime.
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The standard of is, would a jury be able to convict them based on the evidence that is provided?
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It is not a determination of guilt or not guilty.
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So you are of the opinion, if I said right now,
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hey, we've got to investigate whatever your name is in South Dakota, I think he's committed a crime.
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And if in South Dakota they investigated it and chose not to bring charges against you,
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you think the standard would be, well, they didn't determine I didn't commit a crime.
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They determined there wasn't enough evidence to convict me of a crime.
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That's how you'd want to be identified as a caller on the program?
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Whether or not I want to be accused of a crime, anybody who's been accused of a crime
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is already underneath scrutiny at that point in time.
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But again, especially if, again, the investigators look into it.
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What is your actual advocacy that you've called in to advocate for here?
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Get him to a place where he's not going to be put in prison unless we convict him of a crime.
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If they want to charge him for a crime here, fine, go ahead, which they have not done.
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Okay, but he's not in prison in the United States.
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We're just kind of going around in circles here.
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He has been investigated for wife beating based on his own wife's position.
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He was investigated for human trafficking in Tennessee, and the Biden-FBI said, hey, let him go.
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We know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is not supposed to be here.
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He was arrested with other MS-13 gang members with many different aspects of gang affiliation directly connected to him.
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El Salvador, which is now one of the safest countries in the world, thanks to what Bukele has done there,
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made the determination that he should be in prison because they believe that he is a gang member.
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Well, I also think that it's not – you can't expect the American people – to me, this even goes to more just common sense
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and, like, fundamental belief about where the country is and what's happening here.
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You cannot expect us all to say, you know what?
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All the laws about keeping illegals out and finding and deporting illegals, those aren't really laws.
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Like, that's – sorry, there's too much going on, too much complexity.
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But if you do anything to an illegal that does not give him his five different versions of a day in court,
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that does not take into account that any judge at any time can keep – the law cannot be anyone can come here and no one gets kicked out.
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And that seems to be where the Democrats are on this.
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I also think that somebody out there thinking, hey, I'm here illegally, if I get stopped, I might end up in a prison back in my home country,
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maybe I should leave, is not a bad message to be sending, right?
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I mean, honestly, like, this guy is, I think, quite clearly, based on all the evidence, a bad dude who should not be here.
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And the fact that they would make him the avatar and that the best defense that we got is some guy from South Dakota says,
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oh, I don't think he should be in prison in El Salvador.
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Well, shouldn't his home country be able to determine whether they believe that he is a threat or not
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and apply the laws of their home country as it pertains to their citizen?
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And, again, if this guy had come here and he had been a sterling man of character and all of those things,
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he would still be here illegally and he would still be subject to deportation, but he was not.
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He is potentially engaged in human trafficking based on a Tennessee police report.
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He is clearly, based on his own wife, someone who has beaten her and she has needed to seek the protection of the state.
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Like, I'm not losing or weeping at all for this guy.
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And that's where I was going to go now is just I don't care.
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And I think that increasingly they are finding they're unable to do so.
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I'm sick of this country being exploited by people who think that the only laws that are the laws are the ones that are in their interest,
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the illegals interest and not the interest of the American people.
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It's more of a philosophical thing for me is what I'm saying.
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We're getting rid of the worst, the worst right now.
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You know, sometimes you've got to drop a bomb on the building and get the bad guy and bad things happen.
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Let me also say this because he tried to pivot and attack Pete Hegseth on this.
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And I know this has been something that matters to you, too.
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He tried to say, well, they investigated it and they chose not to bring charges.
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But that doesn't mean that he didn't commit a rape.
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Because if you have a woman who can anonymously accuse a man of inappropriate behavior of a sexual nature,
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You can't then say, well, he may have raped her, but they just chose not to bring charges.
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No, if you get investigated and they don't bring charges, I'm sorry.
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Anonymous, your name gets dragged through the mud and everything else.
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I think we need to make it the standard that we say this didn't happen.
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Not, well, they decided they couldn't convict beyond a reasonable doubt.
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That line of thought in this era, when you can levy any accusation against someone at all that you want,
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and then when authorities investigate and don't bring it, you still say, well, it didn't mean he didn't do it.
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I also think, yeah, as soon as the guy started, you were much more polite to him than I would have been if I was handling that.
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But I would just say, because you and I agree, the Pete thing, there's no there there.
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But anyway, and the cops found there's no there there.
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Trust me, they weren't giving the Fox News host in California, like, the benefit of the doubt.
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There's no privilege of being a Fox News host in California when you're accused of wrongdoing.
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In California, investigated for, you know, sexual assault.
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So, Pete, you know, I have, there's zero doubt in my mind that Pete did not actually break any laws there whatsoever.
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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, voices of sanity in an insane world.
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We have some breaking news just to update you on this.
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A suspect in custody and five reportedly killed at Florida State University down here in my home state of Florida.
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The updates will be coming to us more throughout this hour.
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So just wanted to let you know that this is the breaking news out there.
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People are finding out about this terrible shooting at Florida State University.
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We'll have more for you on that later this hour as more details come in.
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We've got the team pulling together all of the relevant information as we speak.
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We now want to speak to Attorney General Ken Paxton of the state of Texas.
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And Mr. Attorney General Paxton, appreciate you calling in, sir.
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We know you've announced your Senate run, and so that's very exciting for you and your team that you're going to be throwing your hat in the ring for that.
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In the meantime, though, I thought perhaps you could just give us your perspective.
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If a state attorney general is involved in multiple mortgage frauds, if that is found to be true, shouldn't that state attorney general...
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I'm sure you're familiar with what's going on in New York and Attorney General Letitia James and the allegations that are out there right now.
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Aren't you, Attorney General Paxton, held to a higher standard as a chief law enforcement officer in your state?
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And shouldn't that be the case in New York as well?
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Well, certainly, not necessarily a higher standard, but she ought to be held to the standard that everybody else is,
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which is if she's violating the law, she should be held accountable for that.
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And if she's committed a crime, she should be prosecuted for that.
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And obviously that would affect her ability to continue as Attorney General of New York.
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Well, first of all, let's allow you to tell our audience, who may not have heard otherwise,
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you have had a lot of success in Texas electoral politics already.
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And you are going to be running now for the Senate from Texas.
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That is next year, but the process is underway.
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And for people out there that may not have been familiar with you in the past,
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so we're, you know, approximately 10 and a half months away from the primary.
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And obviously John Corner is our current senator, been there for 23 years, going on 24.
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And for two, I don't feel like he's done a good job representing our people.
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I don't think he's done a good job, and I think it's time for a change.
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There's a lot of issues that I'm frustrated, and I think our voters are frustrated with.
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And it takes a lot of effort to win a statewide race in Texas.
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And there just aren't that many people that have the name ID or the ability to raise funds
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that can go against the sitting incumbent, especially in the state of Texas, which is...
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If we want to make sure, you get his cell phone.
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He's begun the campaign, and he was just laying out, Buck, what is going to be probably...
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I think it's fair to say the biggest Republican primary battle in 2026 anywhere in the country.
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John Cornyn, who has been in office for some time, current sitting Texas senator, and Ken Paxton, who is the attorney general right now of Texas, very well known, but I wanted you guys to hear from him exactly the choice that he was making, is going to be a big, expensive, huge battle.
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So let me ask you just, Attorney General Paxton, because this is going to be a primary.
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A lot of people spend time thinking about and involved in.
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And for anyone who's listening, I just want to be clear.
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We will, because we don't endorse in primaries.
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We will have an invite out to Senator Cornyn as well, so he can make his case.
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But Attorney General Paxton, where have you broken with Cornyn on a major issue?
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I mean, you said that you don't agree with some of the positions he's taken and some of what he's done to represent the state of Texas.
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Can you give us some examples so we can just start to understand what the differences are between the two of you?
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First was his push for the gun restrictions that he was able to pass with the encouragement of Joe Biden.
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And he was able to do that, restricting gun ownership rights.
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Very unpopular position in Texas, particularly in the primary, as you might imagine.
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And I remember after it was done that Donald Trump came out and called him a rhino, and President Biden congratulated him on doing a great job.
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You will never see me congratulated by a president like Joe Biden.
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Another issue that he's been very bad on is the border.
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He's criticized Trump's building of the wall over and over.
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He's said negative things about it and not wanting to do it.
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Those are both very unpopular positions in Texas.
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We need all the protection we can get, not less.
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And then, of course, he's not been a fan of President Trump.
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In 2016, he called President Trump an albatross around our neck.
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And in 2024, he said he was not endorsing President Trump, that we should move on.
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And he also insinuated that President Trump had committed crimes and potentially should be held accountable for those crimes.
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So those are three of the issues that I think are important to our voters.
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And I think those very much distinguish me from him.
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I think he won the state of Texas by 12, 14 points.
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You probably know the exact margin, but it wasn't close.
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I'm assuming that if he hasn't already, that he is going to be endorsing you pretty wholeheartedly for this office.
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Given that you have worked quite a lot with Trump when it comes to the border, when it comes to legal-related issues,
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how effective do you think you would be working with Trump in 2027 if you're able to hold that right hand up and become the next senator from Texas?
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I've had a great working relationship with President Trump from almost the day he got into office.
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I didn't know him, but we went back and forth on many, many issues while he was in his first term.
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I've kept in touch with him since then during the times he was out of office and have been a big supporter.
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As a matter of fact, I was one of two elected officials that showed up at Mar-a-Lago.
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The other was Troy Nels, Congressman Troy Nels.
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That actually showed up when he announced, because if you'll remember, when he announced,
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there was a lot of issues swirling about his legal issues.
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A lot of Republicans were keeping their distance because DeSantis was on the move.
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And I was there with Troy Nels because, one, I knew that President Trump would do a great job.
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And, two, I'm loyal to people that I trust and I believe in.
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he is going to be running for a Senate seat against the incumbent there, John Cornyn.
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And, A.G. Paxton, I wanted to lean on your legal expertise, if I could, for a second.
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The media is completely drilled into now this Mr. Abrego Garcia, who is being currently held in El Salvador.
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I wanted to just hear what you think about all of the objections that are coming from some people
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about the process, the judge that's involved, what you think should happen.
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You handle these kinds of decisions as an attorney general for our second biggest state.
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This judge has crossed the – we're all about separation of powers.
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The judiciary is supposed to be the weakest branch.
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And they are supposed to stay out of the legislative side,
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and they're supposed to stay out of the executive side.
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This judge has clearly stepped into the shoes of the executive role
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I think that's wrong, and I think that needs to stop.
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I think Congress needs to act and stop these nationwide injunctions that aren't based in any fact or law.
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We certainly – I think there are narrow cases that we used against Joe Biden when it was a nationwide issue.
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But this one is clearly in the purview of the executive, and this judge just needs to be stopped.
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How has life in Texas changed since Joe Biden left office, Trump came in, in particular when it comes to the border?
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We talk about it on the program because basically the border has ceased to be an issue at all.
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Obviously, for us, it meant a lot of expense from law enforcement, health insurance, all kinds of different issues, education.
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We're – that's our cost, and the federal government never stepped in, even though they were inviting these people in and working with the cartels to get them across the border.
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And so it's a huge relief to us, and obviously our legislature spent billions of dollars trying to protect the border in lieu of the Biden administration doing just the opposite.
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So it has a tremendous financial impact, but it's also – I think people just feel safer knowing that we have a president that's protecting our border.
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I say off and on because on a weekly, monthly basis things can evolve, but we have monster audience across the entire state of Texas, and we appreciate all of you listening right now.
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We're also newly on in Dallas, which is where I think you are right now.
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When you look at this March primary that is coming up next year, I know the answer is everywhere in terms of where will this race be decided, but in particular, what areas, what does turnout look like?
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A lot of times people don't show up necessarily in big numbers for primaries.
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What does it take for you to beat an incumbent senator who certainly is going to have a lot of money as well?
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Well, I mean, we've already done three polls with three different pollsters.
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I've been in the attorney general's office for 11 years now.
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And so I think the primary voters are really educated.
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I feel very strongly that we are going to do well everywhere, and it's all based on record.
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And he's going to have to spend – his record is not what the voters want.
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He's not going to be talking about mine because my record is a record that the voters like.
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That's his line of attack, and he's got to pray that somehow Trump does not – that he endorses him
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because that would be his only way of getting into the game, and he's still going to lose.
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Do you think it's possible he drops out, decides not to run?
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I'm playing this for – I'm going to run against John Corn.
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I'm sure no matter what he's thinking in his head, it's got to cross his mind if he's that far down.
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And, look, I've been to the Republican Convention.
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The last time he spoke that he dared to speak to the Republican voters, that was three years ago.
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He got booed for 30 straight minutes, and I'm not talking to quiet booze.
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And that was all based on what he did with the restrictions on gun ownership in our state.
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Attorney General Paxton, appreciate you being with us, sir.
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It's going to be interesting to see how all of that shakes out.
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I did want to get into our discussion about heightism in the world of dating and mating and marriage.
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I mean, I feel like at the end of the show, we can have some fun.
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I'm sure we're going to get into that when there's more detail tomorrow.
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So, but, you know, there's a wide variety of topics any given day.
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So the Clay and Buck team in New York is going to be at the Rangers game tonight.
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All right, Allie, you are married to Gerard, and he is fabulous, and Buck and I are both
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We have said prior, my wife is 5'2", Buck's wife is 5'3", that both of them have told us
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that if we were 5'8", we would not have been their dating partner and not their married
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My mom is 5'4", my dad is 6'3", I bet if my dad had been 5'8", I bet I wouldn't exist.
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I've never asked my mom if she would have dated him if he was 5'8", she may be listening,
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But Allie, if Gerard had been 5'8", would you have ever started dating him as a 5'3'' woman?
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I was also attracted to other things about Gerard.
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I think because when I brought this up as we went to break at the end of the last hour,
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I don't believe she would have ever dated him if he was under 6'0".
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I don't, I understand, like, male-female dynamic.
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I understand if women, although some women don't mind if a guy, there are women who don't
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mind if a guy is shorter than them, especially if they're, like, if you're a 6'4'' woman,
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now in heels, right, you're 6'3"-ish, right?
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Would you rather be a super tall woman or a short man?
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You'd rather be a 6'5'' woman than, like, a 5'4'' man?
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A 6'5'' woman would be, I mean, that's like a, you're, like, bigger than a WNBA center at
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I think that, aren't the WNBA centers, like, 6'3"?
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You're a giant woman if you're, like, 6'2 or bigger, like, right?
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I mean, that's very rare height for a woman.
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So, you know, I think it's, you know, women.
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Anyway, some women will date shorter than them.
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I don't, I understand a woman saying, I don't want to date a guy shorter than me.
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Again, what the data shows is that women, like an amusement park ride, have, in their
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minds at least, and it shows that they act on this when it comes to online dating, a height
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Every nature show you watch shows the species and how they attract each other, and the male
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birds will puff up, and the lizards will make their gills go larger, whatever.
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That's, you know, that's maybe if you like someone's eyes.
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You know, there's all these physical attributes.
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But for, it seems to me that height for women, for male physical, Ali, question, I mean, this
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is not fair, because Gerard has a six-pack and a 6'4".
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This is going to, you know, now we're really, if Gerard, no, we'll take Gerard out of this.
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If you have to pick for a guy, height, 6'4", or Gerard-level physique, what are we going
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If we're just going purely off physical, I suppose the fit, the fitness, because I'm
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I think Ali is in a distinct minority there, because I think most women, they just, there's
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I have come across women who have basically been like, you know, almost like they're doing
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Like, you just, this is obviously before I met Carrie, but I was single for many, many years
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They're like, I kind of, you know, grandfathered you in.
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Like, if I had known you weren't quite like 6'2", you know, I would, it is wild.
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Like, they don't, because it's so objective that they don't feel bad saying, it's not like
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But like, you're a little on the short side for me.
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But you know what really sealed the deal for me is humor.
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Ali, but you're like an emotionally stable, spiritually wholesome, very kind person.
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You know, you're, all right, you know, we need, Ali's an outlier for like, like depth
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I would say a lot of people who are superficial out there.
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And I think more women will admit to the height thing than the money thing.
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There's not a lot of rich guys with ugly women.
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I'm just saying, it has not happened very often that you see a super rich guy with an
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But here's, again, I understand why you want a rich guy.
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I'm not saying that it's not superficial or that, you know, we don't wish that there was
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romance beyond that, but being able to provide, unless a guy is playing in the NBA or is like
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a tight end in the NFL, him being 6'6 means nothing.
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This is what I don't understand, but women love this.
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I think historically the bigger gorilla was able to protect the female gorilla from smaller
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And so I think biologically women are attracted to bigger men because they have the ability
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Look at UFC, but see, this is where I get, look at you at most UFC fighters are, are almost
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all of them are five, eight to six, one or six, two.
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Like there's very few that are tall, certainly very arbitrary, but I think this is straight
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If you were bigger, stronger and faster, you were more likely to be able to kill a animal
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and provide for the, the, the female baby that you had average UFC fighter height is five
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So documentaries also point out lions, lions, the male lion, the bigger main, I track the
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female with the main, I get a little more.
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I'm like, I'm like a great main is something that I can get behind.
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And historically the more like size you had as a man, the more power you tended to have.
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Like let's say, do we still have David in Scottsdale, Arizona?
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One of the first things she said is two things.
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She almost didn't date me because she felt bad that she was taking a tall person.
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But the big thing is her tall girlfriends do not like short girls taking the tall guy.
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I hadn't even thought about the anger that short girl with tall guy can provoke.
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Because if you're five, nine chick and your girlfriend who's five, three takes the six,
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I do think there's something to your argument, Buck, in an Instagrammable age, everybody wants
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And I think there's a lot of girls out there.
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If they wear heels and they're wearing a fancy dress and they're going to a cocktail
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party or they're going to a formal event of some sort, they don't want to post a photo
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standing next to a guy who's shorter than them because they think it doesn't make the
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I think that is in the Instagrammable age, I think that's even more popular.
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That is my thesis, that social media and online dating has created this rush of interest
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And hearing you guys talk today reminded me of a story.
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I was on 22 years on SWAT and I was the team leader.
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And we had a business guy that basically sponsored our team, gave us that, you know, for extra
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He was shooting with us and we were standing around the ammo table.
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We were jamming mags waiting for the next iteration to come on.
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And he is five, six and he's standing there and he's jamming mags and he's looking around,
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He looks at him and said, I'll tell you what, y'all are some big guys, but if I stand in
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And we all said, yes, sir, you're exactly right.
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He is what we call in the culture, he is what we call Walker a short king.
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That is what the millennials in Gen Z now, he's a short king.
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And by the way, is there something to short guy being driven to be far more successful
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than tall guy because he knows that he has to be economically successful to get the best
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In other words, is tall guy lazy because if you're six, two or whatever, you have that
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height advantage for you and five, six guys, like I'm going to do all the work.
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Maybe I did that would actually make some sense, right?
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How much correlation is there between super wealth?
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I don't mean like, you know, you're making a good living.
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How much correlation is there between hedge fund guy?
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Like you're making tens of millions of dollars a year and average height guy.
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Are hedge fund guys taller or shorter on average than like finance, bro?
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I want to get to, we haven't had a lady on the, on the phone lines yet.
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It's so funny what, you know, we're sitting here, we're talking about like saving the
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Republic and, and, you know, the, uh, the constitution and birthright citizenship.
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Everybody, everybody's like, wow, I gotta, I gotta tell you, Geraldine in Los Angeles.
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It's funny that you mentioned that, Buck, because I have tried so many times to get on
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the air with y'all and this was the time I made it through, but I do have opinions about
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Women are attracted to providers and protectors.
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And generally that means bigger, stronger, taller men who can protect us.
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And men are attracted to readers, which is where the 36, 24, 36, um, bus to waist to hip
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Um, I think more women are as, uh, uh, evolved as producer Ali than you think, because I think
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more women will compromise on, um, things like, Oh, Geraldine, Geraldine, I love where your
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The data, the, the data does not support what you're saying.
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I just think that you're, I think if I'm on a dating app, I'm a divorced woman.
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I'm attracted to big, strong manly men, but there's not that many of them in LA.
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By the way, Henry Cavill, if you're listening, I've been waiting for you to knock on my door
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That's your standard of beauty that you compared to.
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Now I, you're right that you never see a rich man with an ugly woman, but you will see a
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beautiful woman with an ugly man very often, especially in church because there are a lot
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of women who are smart enough to realize they need to be dating somebody who's a good communicator,
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who is not too cocky to be a poor mate, who is reliable and going to be a steady partner
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to raise the children with than somebody who's simply hot.
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And I think it's again, evolutionary, evolutionary that men are attracted to beautiful women more
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I don't, I don't, I'm not going to do like the evolutionary thing.
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I actually agree with a lot, a lot of what she had to say there.
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You know, she's a very, Gerilyn, you're very astute, very high Q listener.
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We have so many of them and we appreciate when you call in, but let me ask you this.
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Do you agree with the thesis that height has become far more of a focus among women in
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the dating pool in America than it was say 20 or 30 years ago?
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Cause that's really my thesis is that online dating, Instagram, social media has made this
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Whereas you used to not be able to say six foot.
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Um, I, I think that it's always been important.
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I think now we just have the data to prove that it's important.
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Well, Gerilyn, I'm just gonna tell you something.
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If you're a single lady in LA, you set, you set the, uh, if you're on a dating app,
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not making any assumptions, but if you're on a dating app, you set that, that, uh, that
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filter to five, eight plus, you're going to get short Kings.
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You know, just, just let those short Kings make their pitch to you.
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And I'm telling you, you know, you'll call in, you'd be like, I got, you know, uh, found
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Anyway, that's, that's my little bit of a little bit of advice.
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Uh, and, and we'll take obviously some, some talk backs to some of the guys, some of the
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gals, you want to get a little salty on the talk back, go to the, uh, go to the
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