BONUS: Daily Review With Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Jun 05 2025
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Summary
On today's show, Buck and Clay discuss the latest in the Trump administration, including the latest travel ban, the latest trade deal with China, and the Trump-Elon relationship hitting a speed bump. They also talk about the latest on the Trump and Elon relationship.
Transcript
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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Suxton Show Podcast.
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We were talking the last hour a bit about some of the big things Trump is discussing or was discussing in the Oval Office.
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We've got stuff about restricting foreign foreigners from going to U.S. colleges and universities.
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We've got the foreign nationals from high-risk countries that are banned, travel banned, if you will.
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At least they're not calling it a Muslim ban this time because Cuba and Venezuela are not necessarily thought of as the Islamic world.
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Some of the countries that are on there, clearly, it's not that.
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I remember the first Trump administration, they were all saying, it's a Muslim ban.
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They said, look, these are just countries that are messed up.
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There are a lot of messed up countries that are Muslim majority.
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And then there's also some stuff on the call with Xi and Trump's relationship with Elon.
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It's just hitting a little bit of a speed bump, you could say.
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The self-driving of the Trump-Elon relationship is having a couple of bugs in the system.
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It is not a surprise to me that this is where things are right now.
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When Trump and Elon, when I see there's a little static with Trump and Elon, it's like watching my parents fight.
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This is a big deal because all the tariff stuff with all these other countries, we all know that can get negotiated.
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I think we're quite clear that EU stuff, Canada stuff.
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You know, Trump gives you some, Trump gives you a hard time a little bit, but you know we love you, Canada.
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That's a different, that's a different thing, right?
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China is a, is a, an issue for the United States and is doing bad things, particularly on trade.
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And it's taking a lot of our trade secrets and exploiting, I think, the good faith of the American capitalist mindset and system.
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And, and so we got to take a different approach with them.
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Here, this was Trump just now in the Oval Office.
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He had a chat with President Xi Jinping of China.
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And here is what he had to say about it, Play 25.
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We had a very good talk and we've straightened out any complexity.
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It's very complex stuff and we straightened it out.
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The agreement was we're going to have Scott and Howard and Jameson will be going and meeting with their top people and continue it forward.
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I think we're in very good shape with China and the trade deal.
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We have a deal with China, as you know, but we were straightening out some of the points having to do mostly with rare earth magnets and some other things.
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We announced the deal and we'll be, I guess you could say, I wouldn't even say finalizing it up, Scott.
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I would say we have a deal and we're going to just make sure that everybody understands what the deal is.
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We have a deal and he wants to get more clarity on the deal.
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You know what's one big difference between this Trump administration that you're already seeing and the Biden administration?
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Stuff actually happens with this Trump administration.
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There are things in motion that are to the benefit of the American people.
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Think about so much of what was going on with Biden.
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What was the Biden, what was Biden's trade policy?
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So if the guy who is named for the policy isn't even aware of the policy, and we all understand why, it's pretty clear that there would have been some gaps, you could say.
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There would have been some shortcomings in Biden-China trade relations and dealing with them in the economy.
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I mean, I'm sure, think about this, if you were Putin, and, well, you can't be Putin and Xi Jinping.
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But if you were Vladimir Putin, this is one of the problems I have now when I do radio is that Ginger, the baby, Ginger's very good with the baby.
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But Ginger is more attention-starved than she's ever been.
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So now she used to always leave me alone during radio.
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Now she runs over to me because she has free reign of the house, of course, because she's spoiled.
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And she drops her fetch ball at my feet during radio.
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So if it ever sounds like, I'm like, wait, what's going on?
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And she holds me hostage because if I don't play fetch, at least in the commercial breaks, then she starts to whine.
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And you'll hear all across the country, they'll hear my little Australian Labradoodle whining.
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And I'm telling you, because the little baby gets so much attention, she's more than ever now.
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All right, so Trump and Xi Jinping are squaring off against each other on this trade issue.
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And let's just take a moment to recognize if you were Xi Jinping or you were Vladimir Putin or really any world leader,
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because we all operate, you and I operate in the real world, which is other countries,
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whether it's China or France or the U.K. or Guatemala.
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Other countries want to get the best they can for their people when they interact with us.
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This is why Trump's America first, the notion of a government representing the American people
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that privileges and prioritizes the interests of the American people over non-Americans,
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should be the basic approach of any administration.
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But actually, Trump, it's revolutionary because we've gone through so many iterations of, well,
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Well, what are the you know, what is like the Human Rights Council or the Hague or that whatever
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I frankly don't care what the U.N. thinks about anything.
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So if you were, though, picking who to sit across the table from you as an adversary,
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and which mean and I mean that by any country that's trying to get more from us, could you
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have done better than Joe Biden or or Anthony Blinken?
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Think about the people who were, we're going to talk more about Karina Jean-Pierre later.
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I know she was just a spokesperson, really, but think about those who were supposed to
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You wouldn't want any of these people to work for you at your company.
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It matters with, you know, either who the president is makes a difference in foreign policy or it
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And if it does make a difference, clearly we were at a huge disadvantage with Biden as
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And we are seeing something very different now with Trump.
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We're seeing something that we should have had all along, which is somebody who can actually
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process, negotiate, has a strategy, understands the interpersonal dynamics of power.
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Now, on the restricting foreign nationals from these high-risk countries, Trump spoke about
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this as well in the Oval with the chancellor, not the prime minister, the chancellor of Germany
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And if the Boulder attack was part of your reasoning, why not include Egypt on that list
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Well, because Egypt has been a country that we deal with very closely.
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The countries that we have don't have things under control.
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I can say that it can't come soon enough, frankly.
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The Biden administration allowed some horrendous people.
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I hate to, I even hate to say this in front of the chancellor, because you have a little
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problem, too, with some of the people that were allowed into your country.
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I told her it shouldn't have happened what she did.
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Angela was like Donald, but we have to take all of the third world from the war-torn countries
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And, well, helping, I guess, the people that are now exploiting their access to German
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Isn't it also remarkable how many of these people come to countries, whether it's in
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Europe or it's in America, and they have complaints, they want to complain, and we're
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never allowed to look at them and say, why does your country suck so much?
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Like, as, you know, oh, well, I'm not just talking about countries that have a war, but
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it's also worth noting, why are these countries that having civil wars or having these problems?
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So they hate the people that live within their country.
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Never mind how they're going to get along with all the rest of us.
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I just think that there should be, again, this is one of the reasons, and I say this, and
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it's not just because I love getting high fives from my South Florida Latinos and Latinas
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My South Florida Latinos and Latinas, or a lot of them, Cuban Americans, Venezuelan Americans,
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they freaking love this place, and they appreciate it.
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And they're also voting Republican, and they have for a while.
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Cubans have for a long time, and more and more Venezuelans are.
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They come here and they say, wow, America is awesome.
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The communist hellhole I left is a warning to the rest of the world.
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When you get these people who show up from some other country, they come in illegally,
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they're being told by the NGO, you know, America did your people wrong, and, you know,
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you should get all of the welfare you want, and you should have.
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Anybody who comes to this country should be thrilled to be in this country and should be
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And we see what happens in Europe, and that's not the case.
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And when I say working on their American-ness, you know, becoming productive, law-abiding,
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English-speaking members of their community, their society, and all of that.
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I was talking to the equivalent of the Swedish, kind of like the Swedish FBI.
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I was there years ago at the CIA, and we're helping them with some terrorism issues.
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You know, was Sven Olaf all of a sudden so upset about the state benefits for his free
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No, they brought in a bunch of Middle Eastern Muslims from war-torn countries who, guess
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what, hate the West and hate Europe and started doing really bad things, started going back
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and forth also between the country that they say they had to flee for their lives and the
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They arrive, in many cases, in these countries, and they think that we are suckers.
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And you see this with some of the imams, for example, who have been very much on the radar
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of MI5 in the UK, which is their domestic intelligence service, and trying to expel some of the...
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Some of them are so bad, we're like, look, you've got to go back to wherever you came from.
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That's actually happened in Europe in some cases.
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I said, you guys have brought in a million Middle Eastern refugees.
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What do you think is going to happen with this?
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These are people that were dealing with the counterterrorism side.
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And he didn't just mean stopping terrorism attacks.
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He meant they move into neighborhoods outside of some of the major cities.
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And they want to be able to advocate for the slow but certain overthrow of the culture
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and the rule of law and the nation that they have come to.
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When you're talking about people that are coming from these countries,
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He creates a flamethrower and Molotov cocktails.
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He's trying to light Jewish people, Jewish Americans on fire.
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Instead of thinking about how lucky and grateful he is to be in America,
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This is, as I was saying, somebody running up to you and says,
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Please take me into your house or else I'm going to die.
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And you, out of the kindness of your heart, say, yes, sure, here, come into my cellar with me and my family.
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And then as the tornado passes, they look at you and they go, it's my house now.
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And it is time we woke up to this and said, enough, no more of that.
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I'm glad to see the Trump administration recognizes that we don't have to take people in from countries
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We're talking to Ron Vitello, U.S. Customs and Border Protection's senior advisor.
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How is it that Trump is able to secure the southern border almost at a 100% level?
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I mean, it's in the 90-something percent drop so quickly.
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He's got a good team in place with the likes of Secretary Noem.
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And there are now consequences, unlike anything I've ever seen on the southwest border.
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So that rhetoric that says we're going to do this, the American people gave him that mandate.
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Action by the front line, directed by the leadership.
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And actual consequences to the event of crossing the border illegally are now in place in a way, like I've said.
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Like, you know, I've been in and out of this business for 40 years, and I've never seen anything like it.
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It was so rapid, the change at the southwest border, it even surprised me.
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So I think this would be really interesting, Ron, if I could just ask you, because I had seen, unfortunately,
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in the bad old days of the wide-open border, what happens.
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I mean, they would walk across where there wasn't a wall or there wasn't a barrier,
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which there's a lot of places where that's still the case.
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They'd walk up and they would wave Border Patrol down.
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They would say, here I am, and sometimes through a translator or sometimes they would say it in English,
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some version of, I have a credible fear of violence in my country.
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And they would be processed and let into America, sometimes with a, like a ticket to appear
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What happens now if you show up and you just want to come into America illegally?
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Well, it's a high likelihood that when you're arrested, even if you gave up or if you were trying to evade,
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The acceptance rate from the U.S. Attorney's Office all across the southwest border
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and the northern border in some places as well is over 90 percent.
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And so I'll just give you an example of what that means.
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When I was a second-line supervisor in Nogales, Arizona, we could not present a smuggling case,
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a criminal felony smuggling case, to the U.S. Attorney's Office unless there were 15 smuggled aliens
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in the vehicle that we were trying to prosecute the smuggler for driving.
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Right now they're taking first-time entrants who enter the border illegally as a case.
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It's dramatically different than it's ever been.
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And so the high likelihood is that after you're processed and put into the system,
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you're going to be referred and then accepted for prosecution,
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and you'll have to see a judge for the crime committed crossing the border illegally.
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When that process is over and those individuals are sentenced,
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regardless of what country they're from, they're sent back very rapidly.
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The average time in custody for folks that are in ICE detention is very, very low,
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And so people are being removed from the U.S. all over the world in very short order.
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And also I'm seeing a lot of confusion, Ron, from some parts of the media,
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that there's such a drop in fentanyl at the border that's crossing.
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Because I think our audience, I think everybody right now, they listen, they go,
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They know that this has been a problem for many, many years.
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The president engaged worldwide, specifically in Canada and Mexico,
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the threat of tariffs just to make sure that they weren't allowing precursors
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to come into the country from China and that they had to do more on the border,
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And so both of those countries engaged, again, in ways I've never seen, right?
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10,000 troops from the Mexican National Guard deployed on their northern border,
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Canada has done more to protect their physical border than I've ever seen.
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Helicopters, night vision equipment, dedicated patrols from state, local, provincial,
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And so everybody is doing their part to help protect those borders and the sovereignty of
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each of their countries, thereby giving us a better chance at the physical border to find
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And then the cartels know that it's just not a walk in the park as it was for the four years
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Just to make sure that everyone is clear on this one, what you're telling me is that
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on tariffs alone, there has been a big victory for the border.
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So the tool of tariff negotiations to get us border security, that's already a win,
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is what I'm gathering from what you're saying, especially with, you know, or rather with Mexico
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There is no question that Canada and Mexico are doing more than they have ever done in
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the history of the relationships of these three countries than they are doing right
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And recognizing, you know, Canada put together legislation to spend millions of dollars on
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their border to help us, to help identify the threats that are there.
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They now have a fentanyl czar, which they didn't have before January 20th, 2025, 10,000 troops
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And you'll remember the rhetoric when Trump got elected, Claudia Scheinbaum, the president
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in Mexico, all due respect, she was saying terrible things about how she wasn't going
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She wasn't going to do the bidding of the United States or this president.
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And so that has led to a huge reduction in illegal activity across the southwest border,
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including fentanyl precursors into their country and then fentanyl across our border.
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We're talking to Ron Vitello, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, senior advisor for this
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He has returned to this issue now in his second term.
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I know that one of the ways that Stephen Miller and others are really trying to get people focused
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in on the need to pass this Big Beautiful Bill is saying that there's ample funding for Border
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Patrol, including for wall, barrier, actually securing it.
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What can you tell us about that and the status of the wall right now?
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How long would it take if we had the funding to get a lot more of it in place?
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Well, to get the requirement that's identified by the Border Patrol, supported by the president,
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right, he built a lot of wall in the first term, Trump one, and we expect to build a lot
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And so what we're doing now with the help of the Department of Defense, we have 10,000 of
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our own troops on the southwest border helping the Border Patrol side by side.
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Part of what they're doing is giving agents better access to the border, fortifying the
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wall and increasing the infrastructure that prevents people from entering at the border.
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About 100 new miles of barrier placed either by DOD or by the Border Patrol itself with the
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existing contracting and the funding left over from Trump one.
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So Biden comes in, he puts a moratorium on all border construction.
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Um, and now we're in the, we have the ability for the next year or so to spend the little
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And that's, that's equated so far to about a hundred miles.
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And then there'll be new wall constructed using the funds from Trump one.
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Um, and then we're hopeful that when the reconciliation passes, uh, there will be a huge investment in
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infrastructure, including wall, uh, and tech that supports the wall and the agents
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on the ground access to the border, uh, to give us about another hundred, about another 700 miles.
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We'll have some stuff in the river and on land in places like Texas where the, where the river
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Um, and in other places we'll fortify what exists and increase wall to about 700 new miles,
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Is there a sense, uh, and I know from just law enforcement's sources down along the border,
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border patrol sources and the various collection platforms that we have, uh, is there a sense
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from the, the narco terrorist cartels on the other side of the border that, oh, there's
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Uh, 100%, uh, you know, that there's pressure from the Mexican government, which is as effective
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as it can be given the circumstances, uh, the military to military relationship is producing
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results, uh, including us helping target known cartel members, both sides of the border.
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And it's just really hard now, uh, to cross the border versus the way it was before January
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We had a really good intercept in Laredo yesterday of, uh, unmanned aerial systems, small, uh, drones,
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Wait, so they're using drones to try to drop off, uh, product drugs.
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We believe this one was counter surveillance, but it remains to be seen.
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The media that's in there, uh, to figure out exactly what it was, but, but so they're using
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drones to watch you guys or your guys at border patrol.
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That's, that's, they're using them mostly for that, but they're, it's not unheard of for
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I mean, fentanyl, you know, the, the profit margin on fentanyl is huge in Mexico.
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But, um, again, giving agents time and ability, this was something that wouldn't have happened
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seven months ago because they were too distracted with the massive humanity that was coming into
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Now we have the ability when those sensors go off and when we can deploy against those
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Um, they did in fact, seize a drone in Laredo yesterday.
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Uh, you know, there was a seizure in San Diego of about 7,000 pounds of methamphetamine in
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San, uh, in California, which, which, you know, we haven't seen a seizure in that size
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Um, and it was because the agents on the ground, the frontline has the time and ability to do
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the work, you know, using the shoe leather, using their brains, using the intelligence holdings
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that exist in the United States, uh, to track that 7,000 pounds.
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We probably would not have gotten that, uh, pre-Trump because we're just too busy, um,
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with the illegal activity that was coming across the border.
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Um, we're seeing increases, uh, on the coast near San Diego.
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Uh, we expect that to be the case in near Brownsville as well.
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Uh, the subterranean threat has now been magnified in the sense that the land border is much harder
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And so all the alternative routes of entry, um, are going to start to be used and exploited.
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Uh, that's why we need to backstop what the frontline can do, uh, with policy and rhetoric
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and consequences with more resources as in wall, as an infrastructure, as in boots on the
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Um, that all has to be fortified and sustained, uh, if we want to keep the promise of making
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Wondering if you could just speak to, uh, uh, the morale of the men and women of border
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patrol now and what it feels like to have the mission and resources squared away like they
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Lots of smiles on the faces of the men and women who now have the tools and the support
00:29:20.720
You know, agents are recruited because they are interested in a career that is mostly outdoors,
00:29:25.860
that mostly protects the country, that mostly is involved in activity designed to protect
00:29:32.560
And they weren't able to do that for the last, for the, for the last administration,
00:29:42.020
They have support all the way to the Oval Office.
00:29:44.820
Uh, you have the Secretary Noem out there visiting face to face with the frontline, asking
00:29:49.900
them what they need, ensuring they have those tools and watching them be successful.
00:29:54.420
And it's not just the incumbent agents, but it's also, um, recruitment is, is, is off the
00:30:00.500
charts, uh, doubled since, you know, before Trump.
00:30:03.820
And so, yeah, it's all going in that right direction as it relates to them being successful,
00:30:10.940
That's why they take the oath because they want to protect us all.
00:30:13.460
Um, and now they have an opportunity to succeed as well.
00:30:28.460
Despite the overturning of Roe v. Wade a few years ago, the number of abortions increased
00:30:35.040
That means the lives of more than a million babies were lost last year to abortion.
00:30:41.080
And there's no way this is going to just stop on its own.
00:30:46.220
We, the pro-life community, have to give women the support, the love, and the clarity that
00:30:54.780
So pre-born clinics are located in areas around the country with the highest abortion rates.
00:31:01.220
They're a frontline organization saving the lives of tiny babies in the womb day in and
00:31:10.820
And I got to meet a little three-year-old girl.
00:31:13.060
And she was there because her mom, who's now very involved with pre-born and appreciates
00:31:18.520
pre-born, went to one of those clinics three years ago and had an ultrasound.
00:31:22.920
And that mom saw the little heartbeat, saw the little baby in her womb and realized, this
00:31:28.640
And I'm going to bring this life into the world.
00:31:30.660
And now I got to see this beautiful little three-year-old girl running around, her mom
00:31:34.040
full of smiles and also helping more and more moms to be just like her make the decision
00:31:50.460
We also have to take action to save lives with pro-life organizations like pre-born.
00:31:55.540
A gift of $28 would be enough for an entire ultrasound process to be given to one of these
00:32:03.180
And to donate, all you have to do is dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby.
00:32:09.660
A couple of you out there had a great year so far this year.
00:32:16.800
You can afford, it's tax deductible by the way, but you can afford a $1,000 donation right
00:32:22.500
I know there are a few of you who can right now.
00:32:27.720
I can't even do the math for how many babies that would save off the top of my head.
00:32:43.000
$28, $1,000, whatever you can donate to this organization.
00:32:51.400
If you, you're fortunate enough right now, you can step up.
00:33:00.520
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00:33:12.180
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More on the Big Beautiful Bill, some back and forth on that one.
00:33:41.000
I have a Supreme Court decision that I think is very interesting that I will break down for you.
00:33:52.520
You know, ICE made the most immigrant arrests, illegal immigrant arrests, in a single day, Tuesday of this week.
00:34:08.900
On the bad side of things, a Colorado federal judge, a Biden appointee, of course,
00:34:15.640
has issued an order blocking the Trump administration from deporting the wife and five children of the terrorist in Boulder,
00:34:24.880
So, there's a judge who thinks that he's president, it seems.
00:34:31.160
This is really bad stuff for the country when you have these judges who really believe that they,
00:34:37.940
or act like they believe that they call the shots for the executive branch.
00:34:46.520
They can just tell the president, you can't do that.
00:34:54.360
Hundreds of lower court judges, and any one of them can just bind the commander-in-chief's hands on a whim.
00:35:03.540
And also, as we see, they keep, a lot of them are overturned by the Supreme Court when they eventually make their way up there.
00:35:08.780
So, they're overturned and also very partisan from the get-go.
00:35:17.500
Why should we think that this, well, it's not, as you know.
00:35:21.340
And we'll continue to follow this very closely.
00:35:24.820
Now, something else that I think is worth a bit of our time.
00:35:31.360
And it is how this moment is when all of the people who were part of the Biden lie are running for cover,
00:35:43.120
are scrambling away from what they did to the country, and trying to cash in on it.
00:35:48.960
As you know, I saw through the whole Tapper thing all along.
00:35:53.780
This is somebody who was a nasty defender of all things Biden cognition during the Biden administration.
00:36:03.520
He is a very noxious combination of psychotically thin-skinned Tapper, as well as wildly narcissistic,
00:36:13.200
and thinks that he can fool all of us into believing that he did the crime but should not do the time when it comes to the Biden cover-up.
00:36:21.420
That he is the guy who should be speaking truth to power.
00:36:28.900
Yeah, he's selling a lot of books, but I think he's sold whatever was left of his credibility along with it.
00:36:38.280
One case of a Democrat propagandist running for the exits,
00:36:42.140
or rather trying to not switch teams, but just reposition himself for the next go-around with the next administration.
00:36:57.300
And I remember when she was the Biden press secretary,
00:37:01.600
you know, we would talk about some of the things that she said,
00:37:03.640
but we really started to, I think, lay off on this show because it felt like, you know, she just wasn't up for it.
00:37:15.940
And it's different when you're the president versus when you're the press secretary.
00:37:19.100
If the president's brain doesn't work, it's not mean, I have to say it.
00:37:23.680
If the White House press secretary is just not very bright and not very capable,
00:37:27.300
I mean, I'm going to say it, but, you know, I really, I don't, I'll tell you this.
00:37:32.320
Two things to our credit, but maybe in this business sometimes a bit of a hindrance.
00:37:42.640
We choose to be as kind as we can be, I think, both of us in our own ways.
00:37:47.820
Kindness is different than niceness, I agree with that.
00:37:49.980
Niceness is, oh, I don't want to be offensive, and I'm, you know, nice.
00:37:53.180
Eh, kindness is no, I want to treat people, I want to treat people well,
00:37:57.320
and whenever possible, be respectful and good faith and positive in my interactions
00:38:05.840
And so basically I'm saying, like, we felt, almost felt bad for Karine Jean-Pierre
00:38:10.260
because she was so in and over her head and it was so obvious.
00:38:13.240
And I didn't feel like beating up on her on the show was really,
00:38:16.900
yeah, we had some fun with us sometimes, but it's very different.
00:38:19.480
Like, weekend at Bernie's Biden, he's the commander-in-chief, unacceptable,
00:38:23.840
he's a fraudster, he's a liar, the whole thing was disgusting.
00:38:27.100
Karine Jean-Pierre is somebody who, like, she was a DEI hire
00:38:30.600
in the sense that she clearly was not up for this job,
00:38:34.060
but she is a lesbian and she is black, and that was very exciting.
00:38:40.160
Those characteristics were very exciting for Democrats to have
00:38:45.300
Now, the conservative view on these things, and you see this with,
00:38:49.700
you know, you've got different people who could be, or rather are, I guess,
00:38:55.020
diversity technically within the Trump administration,
00:38:58.780
whether it's women or, you know, Richard Grinnell is gay.
00:39:02.060
I mean, there's these people that are, that have worked for Trump at senior level.
00:39:07.680
And there's not this obsession with the, either immutable characteristics
00:39:13.400
or the sexual orientation or anything like this about these individuals.
00:39:17.900
We just pick people, or, you know, Trump picks people that he thinks will be really good.
00:39:23.640
And he puts a, he's put a lot of women, as you've noticed, for example,
00:39:27.200
in senior positions, and these are some tough ladies,
00:39:30.340
and they're, they're showing their competency day in and day out.
00:39:33.480
I mean, everyone, somebody like Caroline, Caroline Levitt is doing a phenomenal job
00:39:39.920
But Corrine Jean-Pierre just, she didn't have it.
00:39:46.440
And I actually think that it was clear to a lot of people that that was the case.
00:39:52.320
And so she did not get very much heat from the media.
00:39:59.360
And yes, she's, she's a, a black lesbian, and therefore is, is in the world of identity politics,
00:40:07.020
double protected, as the left views this, right?
00:40:10.380
If you're a conservative, if you're on the right, you just view people as people.
00:40:13.480
And you treat them as people, and you expect, you know, you, you hold everyone to the same framework
00:40:20.800
Are you doing your job, are you not doing your job?
00:40:22.440
That's, that is the right conservative point of view.
00:40:27.180
The liberal point of view is, well, we're going to pick people for different things.
00:40:31.800
And this goes to a Supreme Court case I'm going to talk about in a second here.
00:40:35.280
But the left-wing point of view, the Democrat point of view, we're going to pick people,
00:40:39.180
and we're going to tell you they're just as good as anybody else,
00:40:41.800
and they're not picked for these reasons, but we're also going to praise them for being
00:40:49.320
Like, this has always been the problem with affirmative action,
00:40:52.980
You can't say, we need to give an advantage to people because of skin color,
00:41:01.840
But you can't think that we're giving anybody an advantage because of those things.
00:41:06.640
This is the fundamental, and the fundamental disconnect,
00:41:11.560
And then they do this thing of, oh, but it's just a little bit.
00:41:15.860
Because when you start to corner them on these issues, you find out that this doesn't,
00:41:23.840
You can't say, I'm picking this person because of A, and then you're not allowed to say,
00:41:35.320
You're asking us to, you know, believe that up is down.
00:41:40.400
And, or rather, demanding that we believe that up is down.
00:41:48.640
And now she is putting out a book called Independent.
00:41:56.860
She's not just talking about the Biden administration.
00:42:02.340
This is how she described the broken White House on Instagram.
00:42:06.480
I think we need to stop thinking in boxes and think outside of our boxes and not be so partisan.
00:42:14.260
And the way that I see moving forward in this space that we're in right now is if you are willing
00:42:21.060
to stand side by side with me, regardless of your political, how you identify politically,
00:42:26.440
and as long as you respect the community that I belong to and vulnerable communities that I respect,
00:42:48.760
She was the chief spokeswoman for the Biden regime.
00:42:54.640
Now she's talking about how she's, it makes no sense.
00:43:06.160
But what's interesting to me now is this is completely predictable.
00:43:11.520
Now there are Democrat sources that are trashing her all over the place.
00:43:17.200
She wouldn't let Kirby, remember Kirby, you know, the white guy from the Pentagon?
00:43:20.820
He was going to do briefings of national security, but she wouldn't let him because he's so much
00:43:26.940
smarter than she is and it made her insecure, so he wasn't allowed to.
00:43:34.640
When you propagate the lie because it is worth it for you to do so, you don't get to turn
00:43:40.840
around and pretend you're a hero when it doesn't matter anymore.
00:43:43.820
And this is really the whole situation of what's going on now with some of these, whether it's
00:43:53.600
Now, all of a sudden, you know, they're trying to tell you that they've had this big change
00:43:59.940
Why won't they say, why won't they, you know, reach out to people like me, for example,
00:44:03.940
and say, you were right, I don't just mean me, but, you know, people on the right in
00:44:07.620
general, why won't they just say they were right, and I should really think about why
00:44:10.840
they were right, and I should think about why I lied publicly, speaking from the Democrat
00:44:17.240
perspective, why they lied about things when they just had to know everything they were
00:44:29.700
I mean, they have, it means they have no integrity, and they have no integrity at all.
00:44:39.340
Congressional Dems say good riddance to Kareem Jean-Pierre.
00:44:48.780
Her explanation for this move is as confusing and disjointed as her answers in the White House
00:44:55.520
Democrats are trashing her now and basically saying she's, she's an idiot.
00:45:09.920
Tell us they didn't do it, though, because she's a black lesbian.
00:45:12.960
They say they just did it because she's so good at the job.
00:45:23.180
And now that the whole thing is falling apart, the administration's done, they lost, it's,
00:45:29.940
And the only reason she had the job was because she's a black lesbian and Democrats are obsessed
00:45:36.600
So everything that we tell you on this show about what's going on, you'll notice, true.
00:45:43.960
The things that we say, we just keep getting more affirmation of, and we said it all along.
00:45:49.200
The other side has to keep trying to find ways to explain to their audience, to their voters,
00:45:55.960
why they lie and why they're wrong about everything.
00:46:01.540
You could say this is an indicator of something.
00:46:04.280
And now I'm going to come back and speak about the Supreme Court decision that just came down.
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A little bit of trouble in paradise here in MAGA world.
00:48:26.340
Like I said, it's like watching my family members picker or something.
00:48:36.560
Elon, there's a bit of a little bit of, you know, static.
00:48:45.260
But look, Elon's not working in the administration anymore.
00:48:52.720
Him going back to running Tesla, which is a company that I very much believe in, thinks is incredible.
00:49:07.080
And Doge has been, I think, eye-opening in a way that we really needed to see.
00:49:13.020
All of that said, it is a little bit frustrating here to see Trump and Elon having a bit of a spat over what's going on here with the spending bill.
00:49:25.560
So, Trump is now saying that Elon, wait, hold on a second.
00:49:39.040
President Trump appeared to, oh, wait, we actually have some sound.
00:49:41.540
Guys, can you play the, this is from the Oval Office.
00:49:45.860
Elon, I don't know what the number is on this one, but you can pull up the clip.
00:49:51.200
Let's hear what Trump is saying about the Elon relationship.
00:50:01.500
Everybody in this room practically was here as we had a wonderful send-off.
00:50:12.460
And I am right about the great, big, beautiful bill.
00:50:16.740
We call it a great, big, beautiful bill because that's what it is.
00:50:20.240
And, again, biggest tax cuts in history, biggest economic development moves anywhere.
00:50:29.720
Saying they may not have a great relationship going forward.
00:50:31.680
Look, one thing about Trump you have to remember, and you know this and I know this,
00:50:36.120
is that, you know, he's not an opponent you want to have.
00:50:42.460
But he also always keeps the tent flap open for you to come back and, you know, be back
00:50:51.600
He has really a remarkable willingness to bring people back into the fold who want to be part
00:51:00.260
of the agenda and want to move the country in the same direction.
00:51:06.900
I mean, Marco Rubio and Trump went at each other in that primary in 2016.
00:51:12.460
You remember, you know, talking about, like, little hands and stuff.
00:51:17.000
And, you know, Marco decided he was going to play a little rough with Trump and Trump could
00:51:24.660
And now Marco Rubio is Trump's A-plus Secretary of State, total confidence in going both ways
00:51:34.540
And he's doing great stuff for the administration.
00:51:36.780
And, you know, Marco Rubio is just getting it done and Trump knows it.
00:51:41.740
And a lot of people are saying Rubio kind of gets the most improved award on the Republican
00:51:51.600
And the Secretary of State deserves a lot of credit for that.
00:51:54.420
We'll have him on the show hopefully sometime soon.
00:51:57.680
But, yeah, I think it's exactly the case that Trump will always allow people to come back
00:52:07.280
in after there's been a public split, unless they, like, play really dirty and try to imprison
00:52:11.980
his family or something, which some lunatics have tried to do.
00:52:14.940
But I bring this up because this is what Elon put out on X.
00:52:22.520
Are there two guys with bigger and both very deserved but bigger egos on Earth?
00:52:32.260
I mean, there's delusionally, you know, Keith Olbermann.
00:52:34.500
I mean, there's people who have huge egos who are total losers.
00:52:36.780
For people who are actually winners with big egos, Trump and Elon are high up on the list,
00:52:44.460
And Elon put this out there on X just in the last, about an hour, hour and change ago.
00:52:51.940
Without me, this is Elon, without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control
00:52:59.800
the House, and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate.
00:53:13.420
Just look, I'm just telling you what's happening here.
00:53:16.040
Just saying that there's a little bit of a thing.
00:53:26.820
He's a true believer in cutting the government spending.
00:53:35.000
For one, it's, if you tried to do what Elon wants them to do, you would not have passage
00:53:50.460
If you have to get Democrats to go on board, now you got nothing.
00:53:53.620
Now you're just letting the Democrats call the shots.
00:53:57.380
So, unless you want to nuke the filibuster on this issue, in this moment, and remember
00:54:01.900
the Democrats will be very happy to go completely insane the moment they have 51 seats in the
00:54:10.760
And maybe that's the argument that should be made right now.
00:54:14.720
But it's, yeah, the bromance of Trump and Elon right now, they want a little space.
00:54:28.420
There's some sad music playing in the background.
00:54:31.120
I think they're both probably having some moments where they think back to, you know, hand
00:54:35.920
in hand, walking down the White House lawn and talking about how great Tesla is and the
00:54:41.980
happy music going, we're in a different part of the story right now.
00:54:51.680
I'm not, I don't think this is some dumb big thing.
00:54:55.620
Elon knows that MAGA is, it's just a question of whether we want to have a sane country and
00:55:05.760
Their party, yeah, there are smart, nice Democrats.
00:55:10.900
The Democrat Party, though, is now run by an ideology that is just deranged.
00:55:15.840
We see this, whether we're talking about the trans-athlete stuff that they're still sticking
00:55:19.320
to or, you don't even really know what the Democrats stand for right now because they're
00:55:24.180
still trying to regain some footing after supporting a dementia patient for four years that obviously
00:55:31.960
had dementia and they pretend like he didn't and now we all have to sit around saying, well,
00:55:37.340
How can you, how can you lecture us on anything?
00:55:39.600
How can Democrats lecture us on anything when it comes to government or decision making
00:55:44.920
or whatever when they had Joe Biden as president for four years and we all knew and they knew?
00:55:52.380
So, I just wanted to, I wanted to note that there's a little bit of, a little bit of friction
00:55:59.920
right now in MAGA world with Trump and Elon and I just, I'll say this too, two alpha dogs
00:56:06.040
like that, this was, if I didn't say it on this show, it's because I didn't want to rain
00:56:11.140
on the election parade of how great everything was going, but we've all known that eventually
00:56:17.820
this is, this was going to, there was going to be a little bit of a, and I, and when I
00:56:22.220
say a little bit of a break, I don't mean that they're going to hate each other and Elon's
00:56:25.600
going to go left wing and Trump's going to have to throw big haymakers at him publicly
00:56:29.660
for a long time, but there was a, there was a time limit to how long I think these two guys
00:56:35.040
could really closely collaborate, um, before it was going to be best for all that Trump goes back
00:56:40.600
to being president and Elon goes back to running his companies and that is where we are.
00:56:44.360
So, it's, it's not a big deal, but you know, the bromance movie here is, like I said, this is a
00:56:51.880
little bit of a different space. I'm sure, give it a few months, Elon will be at Mar-a-Lago,
00:56:55.860
they'll be laughing and up and having dinner and everything else, but Elon's a very intense,
00:56:59.160
I don't know him, but just, I haven't met him actually, which is kind of a shame. I'd
00:57:02.420
like to meet him at some point. Uh, Elon's a very intense guy, obviously, and believes
00:57:08.740
very much in the mission that he was taking on at Doge. And when you have that level of
00:57:14.620
intensity, you can become a little, uh, I don't know if monomaniacal is the right word.
00:57:21.160
You get a little, a little too laser focused on that one thing. Trump has got to focus on a
00:57:25.100
lot of things and he does have to deal with what is possible out there.
00:57:29.160
And this is a difference, right? Elon, Elon is used to being, you can be much closer to
00:57:35.900
a truly, you can be much closer to a dictator in your day-to-day affair, a day-to-day affairs
00:57:40.780
as the CEO and primary shareholder of a company. You can be much closer to a dictator than you
00:57:48.860
can as president with a Congress and a Supreme court and 350 million people who all have opinions,
00:57:55.560
right? It's, it's different. It's different. Um, now I know Trump has been CEO of companies too,
00:58:01.260
so he understands that, but Elon's never been president and there's, uh, some, some nuances
00:58:06.780
here that are in the skillset. Uh, but I'm wondering what you think about this one. If you, I, I am not
00:58:12.440
surprised by this at all. I will just say, I'm not surprised by this at all. I was also not surprised
00:58:17.000
at all at the Elon Ramaswamy, uh, split that occurred right away. I won't get into that now.
00:58:23.580
Maybe we'll talk about that another time, but I knew that Elon was like, um, that was not going to
00:58:27.340
work. Um, and I, I, I, I'm just saying that that was, and everyone who knows me and, uh,
00:58:33.000
knows my feelings on that or they know that I, that wasn't going to be, I was on vacation when,
00:58:40.620
uh, and, and overseas. So I really wasn't online or, or getting involved in it, but that whole H1B
00:58:46.600
visa situation with, uh, with Elon and Ramaswamy and, and Trump and MAGA. Yeah. So anyway, I want to
00:58:55.440
get back to our agenda here. What's going on with, uh, with the country and, and all the good things that
00:59:00.280
are happening, but I had to take note of, there's a little bit of a disturbance in the force, if you
00:59:05.280
will, with Trump and Elon. It's going to be, it's going to be fine now. I'm telling you those guys,
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it's one of Trump's nicest qualities, uh, really just as a person is that he's willing to,
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he's willing to let people see the error of their ways and come back and, and bring them back into the
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fold. And it's fine. Um, it's a really nice, it's a really lovely quality to have. I will say
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many people don't have that at all. Many people hold grudges, uh, and grudges are kind
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of, grudges are not generally good grudges. I think usually are toxic, uh, or, you know,
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usually have a toxicity to them. I, I didn't get to get into the details of the Supreme court
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decision, but essentially the notion of reverse discrimination has been flipped on its head
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here. The Supreme court had to, uh, the, the basics of this are a woman was working for a,
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uh, uh, hold on. It was like a juvenile detention facility or something. She was
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administrator. She applied for a more senior job. They didn't give her that job. And then
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they demoted her and she lost out to somebody who was a lesbian and then she was replaced by
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somebody who was gay. And she felt like there was some DEI stuff going on here and she sued
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and the lower courts, the, uh, the district court and the circuit, but this is aims VO aims
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the Ohio department of youth services. And, uh, what, what the lower courts found was, well,
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you're a heterosexual female. So, uh, it's not really possible for you to be, uh, this was,
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yeah, like I said, this was in Ohio. It's not really possible for you to be discriminated
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against. And they said that she failed to clear the bar applied to members of a majority group
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in order to be considered discriminated against under title seven of the civil rights act.
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So there's a higher burden if you're straight than if you're LGBTQIA plus, because you're still
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supposed to be protected. These are protected characteristics, right? You can't discriminate
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on the basis of sex, can't discriminate on the basis of skin color, ethnicity, right? That that's
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the law, but they're saying, well, but it's harder to prove discrimination. If you're white,
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or it's harder to prove discrimination, if you're straight. And by a unanimous decision
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written by, uh, written by, uh, justice Jackson, Katanji Brown Jackson, that the standard
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is the standard and discrimination is discrimination. And so you fire somebody or you demote somebody
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or whatever. And it's, it's provable that you did it. So you could hire someone who's gay or you
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could hire somebody who's, you know, uh, an Eskimo or you, whatever that's wrong. No more reverse
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discrimination. It's just discrimination. We're, we're either protected and you can't hurt anyone
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based upon things they can't change, which is obviously what is ethical and what the law should
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be, or we got a problem. The left hates this of course, because this is a huge challenge to the
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DEI regime. This is a huge challenge to the racial spoil system and the gender identity spoil system
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