Verdict with Ted Cruz - BONUS： Daily Review With Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Jun 05 2025

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00:00:04.140 Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Suxton Show Podcast.

00:00:09.180 We were talking the last hour a bit about some of the big things Trump is discussing or was discussing in the Oval Office.

00:00:17.160 I want to bring you some of those highlights.

00:00:18.660 We've got stuff about restricting foreign foreigners from going to U.S. colleges and universities.

00:00:25.800 We've got the foreign nationals from high-risk countries that are banned, travel banned, if you will.

00:00:34.980 At least they're not calling it a Muslim ban this time because Cuba and Venezuela are not necessarily thought of as the Islamic world.

00:00:42.280 Some of the countries that are on there, clearly, it's not that.

00:00:45.520 I remember the first Trump administration, they were all saying, it's a Muslim ban.

00:00:48.540 So then they had to add North Korea on to it. 0.90

00:00:50.320 They said, look, these are just countries that are messed up.

00:00:52.100 It wasn't Trump's fault. 0.63

00:00:53.120 There are a lot of messed up countries that are Muslim majority. 1.00

00:00:55.800 And then there's also some stuff on the call with Xi and Trump's relationship with Elon.

00:01:04.540 It's just hitting a little bit of a speed bump, you could say.

00:01:08.700 The self-driving of the Trump-Elon relationship is having a couple of bugs in the system.

00:01:15.700 We'll talk about this.

00:01:17.540 It is not a surprise to me that this is where things are right now.

00:01:20.780 But I, you know, I'm just going to say this.

00:01:25.360 When Trump and Elon, when I see there's a little static with Trump and Elon, it's like watching my parents fight.

00:01:29.760 I'm like, no, come on.

00:01:32.280 You guys are the good guys.

00:01:34.160 No fighting.

00:01:35.680 It'll be fine.

00:01:37.060 It'll be fine.

00:01:38.460 But my parents, like, never fought.

00:01:39.720 So that was very nice.

00:01:40.480 But, you know, you know what I'm saying.

00:01:41.380 Let's see here.

00:01:43.520 We have, I saw other people's parents fight.

00:01:46.680 So I'd be like, ooh, that's not fun.

00:01:49.560 Let's do first the Trump call with Elon.

00:01:53.300 This is a big deal because all the tariff stuff with all these other countries, we all know that can get negotiated.

00:01:59.440 I think we're quite clear that EU stuff, Canada stuff.

00:02:03.640 Canada, you know we love Canada.

00:02:05.400 You know, Trump gives you some, Trump gives you a hard time a little bit, but you know we love you, Canada.

00:02:12.520 China's a problem. 1.00

00:02:14.120 That's a different, that's a different thing, right?

00:02:17.160 China is a, is a, an issue for the United States and is doing bad things, particularly on trade.

00:02:24.520 And it's taking a lot of our trade secrets and exploiting, I think, the good faith of the American capitalist mindset and system.

00:02:36.740 And, and so we got to take a different approach with them.

00:02:39.740 Here, this was Trump just now in the Oval Office.

00:02:41.860 He had a chat with President Xi Jinping of China.

00:02:47.160 And here is what he had to say about it, Play 25.

00:02:49.560 We had a very good talk and we've straightened out any complexity.

00:02:54.680 It's very complex stuff and we straightened it out.

00:02:59.120 The agreement was we're going to have Scott and Howard and Jameson will be going and meeting with their top people and continue it forward.

00:03:10.540 But no, I think we have everything.

00:03:11.960 I think we're in very good shape with China and the trade deal.

00:03:15.000 We have a deal with China, as you know, but we were straightening out some of the points having to do mostly with rare earth magnets and some other things.

00:03:26.800 So it's reduced trade tariff rates.

00:03:28.660 They remain in effect.

00:03:30.340 We have, we have the deal.

00:03:31.880 I mean, we've had a deal.

00:03:32.820 We announced the deal and we'll be, I guess you could say, I wouldn't even say finalizing it up, Scott.

00:03:39.240 I would say we have a deal and we're going to just make sure that everybody understands what the deal is.

00:03:43.440 We have a deal and he wants to get more clarity on the deal.

00:03:49.700 You know what's one big difference between this Trump administration that you're already seeing and the Biden administration?

00:03:57.220 Stuff actually happens with this Trump administration.

00:04:00.880 There are things in motion that are to the benefit of the American people.

00:04:07.060 Think about so much of what was going on with Biden.

00:04:09.900 What was the Biden, what was Biden's trade policy?

00:04:12.800 What was Biden's China policy?

00:04:15.460 Biden didn't know.

00:04:17.240 That much is clear.

00:04:18.960 So if the guy who is named for the policy isn't even aware of the policy, and we all understand why, it's pretty clear that there would have been some gaps, you could say.

00:04:30.140 There would have been some shortcomings in Biden-China trade relations and dealing with them in the economy.

00:04:37.760 I mean, I'm sure, think about this, if you were Putin, and, well, you can't be Putin and Xi Jinping.

00:04:45.140 I mean, that would be interesting, right?

00:04:47.320 But if you were Vladimir Putin, this is one of the problems I have now when I do radio is that Ginger, the baby, Ginger's very good with the baby.

00:04:55.880 So that's good news.

00:04:56.880 But Ginger is more attention-starved than she's ever been.

00:05:01.480 So now she used to always leave me alone during radio. 0.72

00:05:03.800 Now she runs over to me because she has free reign of the house, of course, because she's spoiled. 1.00

00:05:09.600 And she drops her fetch ball at my feet during radio. 0.94

00:05:13.820 So if it ever sounds like, I'm like, wait, what's going on?

00:05:16.320 It's because of the dog.

00:05:17.040 And she holds me hostage because if I don't play fetch, at least in the commercial breaks, then she starts to whine. 1.00

00:05:23.040 And you'll hear all across the country, they'll hear my little Australian Labradoodle whining.

00:05:27.660 But, you know, such and such is like.

00:05:28.760 And I'm telling you, because the little baby gets so much attention, she's more than ever now.

00:05:33.440 She's, meh, meh, meh.

00:05:34.820 And she makes these little noises and stuff. 0.94

00:05:36.420 Anyway, she loves the baby, though.

00:05:37.620 She's very sweet to the baby.

00:05:38.980 So at least I'm very grateful for that.

00:05:40.760 All right, so Trump and Xi Jinping are squaring off against each other on this trade issue.

00:05:48.400 And let's just take a moment to recognize if you were Xi Jinping or you were Vladimir Putin or really any world leader,

00:05:53.960 because we all operate, you and I operate in the real world, which is other countries,

00:06:00.880 whether it's China or France or the U.K. or Guatemala.

00:06:05.660 Other countries want to get the best they can for their people when they interact with us.

00:06:11.960 And you know what?

00:06:12.780 That's fine.

00:06:14.120 That's how we would expect it to be.

00:06:15.740 This is why Trump's America first, the notion of a government representing the American people

00:06:22.900 that privileges and prioritizes the interests of the American people over non-Americans, 0.63

00:06:29.300 should be the basic approach of any administration.

00:06:33.140 But actually, Trump, it's revolutionary because we've gone through so many iterations of, well,

00:06:40.340 what do the Europeans think?

00:06:41.500 Well, what are the you know, what is like the Human Rights Council or the Hague or that whatever

00:06:46.260 you and what do they think about this?

00:06:48.680 I don't care.

00:06:49.320 I frankly don't care what the U.N. thinks about anything.

00:06:54.780 So if you were, though, picking who to sit across the table from you as an adversary,

00:07:00.740 and which mean and I mean that by any country that's trying to get more from us, could you

00:07:05.520 have done better than Joe Biden or or Anthony Blinken?

00:07:10.440 Anthony Blinken?

00:07:11.400 Really?

00:07:12.500 Think about the people who were, we're going to talk more about Karina Jean-Pierre later.

00:07:16.320 I know she was just a spokesperson, really, but think about those who were supposed to

00:07:21.780 be making the key decisions around Biden.

00:07:26.480 You wouldn't want any of these people to work for you at your company.

00:07:29.860 You wouldn't want any of them as colleagues.

00:07:31.720 They're not dependable.

00:07:32.600 They're not wise.

00:07:33.620 They're not impressive.

00:07:37.540 That stuff matters.

00:07:39.700 It matters with, you know, either who the president is makes a difference in foreign policy or it

00:07:44.460 doesn't.

00:07:44.800 And if it does make a difference, clearly we were at a huge disadvantage with Biden as

00:07:51.720 the president of the United States.

00:07:53.100 And we are seeing something very different now with Trump.

00:07:57.660 We're seeing something that we should have had all along, which is somebody who can actually

00:08:02.380 process, negotiate, has a strategy, understands the interpersonal dynamics of power.

00:08:11.460 Biden's just a graft machine. 1.00

00:08:13.220 Biden's an imbecile. 1.00

00:08:14.480 And I said it all along. 1.00

00:08:16.820 You knew it.

00:08:17.740 I knew it.

00:08:18.360 All right.

00:08:19.440 Now, on the restricting foreign nationals from these high-risk countries, Trump spoke about

00:08:25.580 this as well in the Oval with the chancellor, not the prime minister, the chancellor of Germany

00:08:29.960 26.

00:08:32.660 Play it.

00:08:34.680 Please.

00:08:36.080 On your new travel ban, why now?

00:08:39.100 And if the Boulder attack was part of your reasoning, why not include Egypt on that list 0.93

00:08:42.960 where the suspect is from?

00:08:44.080 Well, because Egypt has been a country that we deal with very closely.

00:08:48.220 They have things under control.

00:08:50.160 The countries that we have don't have things under control.

00:08:53.020 And why now?

00:08:54.480 I can say that it can't come soon enough, frankly.

00:08:57.780 We want to keep bad people out of our country.

00:09:00.840 The Biden administration allowed some horrendous people.

00:09:05.060 And we're getting them out one by one.

00:09:07.360 And we're not stopping until we get them out.

00:09:09.280 We have thousands of murderers.

00:09:11.320 I hate to, I even hate to say this in front of the chancellor, because you have a little

00:09:15.720 problem, too, with some of the people that were allowed into your country.

00:09:18.680 It's not your fault.

00:09:19.900 It's not your fault.

00:09:20.760 It shouldn't have happened.

00:09:21.580 I told her it shouldn't have happened what she did.

00:09:25.280 Her, meaning Angela.

00:09:28.020 Angela was like Donald, but we have to take all of the third world from the war-torn countries 1.00

00:09:33.400 into America.

00:09:34.900 Actung.

00:09:35.740 I'm sorry, into Germany, but.

00:09:37.360 Into Germany. 0.75

00:09:38.480 Actung.

00:09:38.880 Deutschland.

00:09:40.580 Not good.

00:09:41.880 Not good, Angela.

00:09:43.560 Not helping anybody out.

00:09:45.880 And, well, helping, I guess, the people that are now exploiting their access to German 0.86

00:09:51.580 welfare and the German system.

00:09:54.540 Isn't it also remarkable how many of these people come to countries, whether it's in

00:09:58.440 Europe or it's in America, and they have complaints, they want to complain, and we're 0.97

00:10:03.380 never allowed to look at them and say, why does your country suck so much? 0.98

00:10:06.140 I'm just wondering. 0.95

00:10:06.700 Like, as, you know, oh, well, I'm not just talking about countries that have a war, but

00:10:10.220 it's also worth noting, why are these countries that having civil wars or having these problems?

00:10:15.820 Usually it's sectarian hatreds.

00:10:17.520 So they hate the people that live within their country.

00:10:20.120 Never mind how they're going to get along with all the rest of us.

00:10:22.040 But, yeah, we never get to ask that question.

00:10:25.900 I just think that there should be, again, this is one of the reasons, and I say this, and

00:10:30.140 it's not just because I love getting high fives from my South Florida Latinos and Latinas

00:10:35.980 who listen to this show, but it's really true.

00:10:38.220 My South Florida Latinos and Latinas, or a lot of them, Cuban Americans, Venezuelan Americans,

00:10:47.360 they freaking love this place, and they appreciate it.

00:10:53.020 And they're also voting Republican, and they have for a while.

00:10:56.860 Cubans have for a long time, and more and more Venezuelans are.

00:10:59.820 They appreciate this place.

00:11:02.200 They come here and they say, wow, America is awesome.

00:11:06.680 The communist hellhole I left is a warning to the rest of the world.

00:11:11.360 This is why they're so great.

00:11:12.580 When you get these people who show up from some other country, they come in illegally, 1.00

00:11:16.960 they're being told by the NGO, you know, America did your people wrong, and, you know,

00:11:22.100 you should get all of the welfare you want, and you should have.

00:11:25.100 That's not good.

00:11:26.760 That's not good.

00:11:28.480 Anybody who comes to this country should be thrilled to be in this country and should be

00:11:35.420 working on their American-ness from day one.

00:11:39.860 And we see what happens in Europe, and that's not the case.

00:11:42.180 And when I say working on their American-ness, you know, becoming productive, law-abiding,

00:11:46.700 English-speaking members of their community, their society, and all of that.

00:11:51.560 And that should be the expectation.

00:11:54.700 In Europe, it was like self-hatred on display.

00:11:59.080 I'll never forget.

00:11:59.600 I was talking to the equivalent of the Swedish, kind of like the Swedish FBI.

00:12:03.300 I forget what they...

00:12:04.780 I was there years ago at the CIA, and we're helping them with some terrorism issues.

00:12:09.540 Oh, why did Sweden have terrorism issues?

00:12:12.180 Anyone want to guess?

00:12:14.020 Anyone want to take a stab at that one?

00:12:16.380 You know, was Sven Olaf all of a sudden so upset about the state benefits for his free

00:12:23.080 health care or whatever?

00:12:24.040 You know, he's like...

00:12:24.740 No.

00:12:25.460 No, they brought in a bunch of Middle Eastern Muslims from war-torn countries who, guess 0.92

00:12:30.860 what, hate the West and hate Europe and started doing really bad things, started going back 0.51

00:12:35.220 and forth also between the country that they say they had to flee for their lives and the

00:12:40.440 country that had taken them in. 0.98

00:12:41.820 They arrive, in many cases, in these countries, and they think that we are suckers. 0.97

00:12:47.800 They are taking us for a ride. 0.69

00:12:49.860 And you see this with some of the imams, for example, who have been very much on the radar 0.99

00:12:56.140 of MI5 in the UK, which is their domestic intelligence service, and trying to expel some of the...

00:13:02.560 Some of them are so bad, we're like, look, you've got to go back to wherever you came from.

00:13:05.040 That's actually happened in Europe in some cases.

00:13:07.540 But in Sweden, I remember talking to them.

00:13:08.980 I said, you guys have brought in a million Middle Eastern refugees.

00:13:12.360 What do you think is going to happen with this?

00:13:15.660 And they...

00:13:17.040 Because these weren't politicians.

00:13:18.420 These are people that were dealing with the counterterrorism side.

00:13:20.400 They're like, we have a big problem.

00:13:22.180 We have a big challenge.

00:13:23.200 And he didn't just mean stopping terrorism attacks.

00:13:25.700 He meant they move into neighborhoods outside of some of the major cities.

00:13:31.900 They don't want to learn the language. 0.89

00:13:34.300 They don't want to adopt the culture. 0.98

00:13:36.040 They want to set up Sharia courts.

00:13:37.840 They want it their own way.

00:13:39.060 And they want to be able to advocate for the slow but certain overthrow of the culture

00:13:46.460 and the rule of law and the nation that they have come to.

00:13:51.780 Imagine that.

00:13:53.420 You know, it's like I said before.

00:13:55.280 When you're talking about people that are coming from these countries,

00:13:58.660 and we saw this with the Boulder attack.

00:14:02.400 This guy comes here.

00:14:03.980 He says he wants asylum.

00:14:06.060 He's got a wife and children.

00:14:07.720 They're here now. 0.99

00:14:09.580 And he goes and he lights Jews on fire. 0.98

00:14:13.960 He creates a flamethrower and Molotov cocktails. 1.00

00:14:16.700 He's trying to light Jewish people, Jewish Americans on fire. 1.00

00:14:20.420 Instead of thinking about how lucky and grateful he is to be in America, 0.95

00:14:24.300 that's what he does?

00:14:26.700 This is, as I was saying, somebody running up to you and says,

00:14:31.200 there's a tornado coming.

00:14:33.800 Please take me into your house or else I'm going to die.

00:14:37.160 And you, out of the kindness of your heart, say, yes, sure, here, come into my cellar with me and my family.

00:14:42.960 And then as the tornado passes, they look at you and they go, it's my house now.

00:14:47.780 Now, that's happening.

00:14:50.780 That has happened.

00:14:51.960 And it is time we woke up to this and said, enough, no more of that.

00:14:57.140 Thank you very much.

00:14:58.140 I'm glad to see the Trump administration recognizes that we don't have to take people in from countries

00:15:03.180 where we cannot trust that they will be safe, that they will be contributing.

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00:17:01.980 We're talking to Ron Vitello, U.S. Customs and Border Protection's senior advisor.

00:17:08.720 Ron, thanks for making the time for us.

00:17:10.620 Let's just start with this.

00:17:11.940 How is it that Trump is able to secure the southern border almost at a 100% level?

00:17:18.240 I mean, it's in the 90-something percent drop so quickly.

00:17:22.020 How do you do it?

00:17:23.680 Leadership matters.

00:17:24.680 He's got a good team in place with the likes of Secretary Noem.

00:17:29.100 And there are now consequences, unlike anything I've ever seen on the southwest border.

00:17:34.740 So that rhetoric that says we're going to do this, the American people gave him that mandate.

00:17:40.540 Action by the front line, directed by the leadership.

00:17:45.120 And actual consequences to the event of crossing the border illegally are now in place in a way, like I've said.

00:17:52.240 Like, you know, I've been in and out of this business for 40 years, and I've never seen anything like it.

00:17:56.600 It was so rapid, the change at the southwest border, it even surprised me.

00:18:02.400 So I think this would be really interesting, Ron, if I could just ask you, because I had seen, unfortunately,

00:18:08.120 in the bad old days of the wide-open border, what happens.

00:18:11.920 People would walk up to Border Patrol.

00:18:14.880 I mean, they would walk across where there wasn't a wall or there wasn't a barrier,

00:18:18.400 which there's a lot of places where that's still the case.

00:18:20.400 They'd walk up and they would wave Border Patrol down.

00:18:23.620 They would say, here I am, and sometimes through a translator or sometimes they would say it in English,

00:18:29.460 some version of, I have a credible fear of violence in my country.

00:18:32.660 And they would be processed and let into America, sometimes with a, like a ticket to appear

00:18:37.960 or show up somewhere in the system later on.

00:18:41.620 I mean, the whole thing was just a joke.

00:18:43.540 What happens now if you show up and you just want to come into America illegally? 0.68

00:18:47.180 Well, it's a high likelihood that when you're arrested, even if you gave up or if you were trying to evade,

00:18:53.660 there's a lot of that still going on.

00:18:55.980 You're taken into custody like before.

00:18:58.380 You're put into the system like before.

00:19:00.520 And then you're referred for prosecution.

00:19:02.640 The acceptance rate from the U.S. Attorney's Office all across the southwest border

00:19:06.400 and the northern border in some places as well is over 90 percent.

00:19:09.840 And so I'll just give you an example of what that means.

00:19:12.980 When I was a second-line supervisor in Nogales, Arizona, we could not present a smuggling case,

00:19:20.000 a criminal felony smuggling case, to the U.S. Attorney's Office unless there were 15 smuggled aliens

00:19:25.640 in the vehicle that we were trying to prosecute the smuggler for driving.

00:19:29.620 Right now they're taking first-time entrants who enter the border illegally as a case.

00:19:38.980 It's dramatically different than it's ever been.

00:19:42.260 And so the high likelihood is that after you're processed and put into the system,

00:19:46.040 you're going to be referred and then accepted for prosecution,

00:19:48.660 and you'll have to see a judge for the crime committed crossing the border illegally.

00:19:53.400 When that process is over and those individuals are sentenced,

00:19:58.480 regardless of what country they're from, they're sent back very rapidly.

00:20:02.100 The average time in custody for folks that are in ICE detention is very, very low,

00:20:06.700 lower than it's been in a long time.

00:20:09.260 And so people are being removed from the U.S. all over the world in very short order.

00:20:14.780 And also I'm seeing a lot of confusion, Ron, from some parts of the media,

00:20:23.120 maybe confusion, surprise, astonishment,

00:20:26.360 that there's such a drop in fentanyl at the border that's crossing.

00:20:32.080 What's going on there?

00:20:33.460 Because I think our audience, I think everybody right now, they listen, they go,

00:20:36.560 oh, I think I know what's going on.

00:20:39.020 Yeah, of course.

00:20:39.980 They know that this has been a problem for many, many years.

00:20:43.420 The president engaged worldwide, specifically in Canada and Mexico,

00:20:49.600 the threat of tariffs just to make sure that they weren't allowing precursors

00:20:56.660 to come into the country from China and that they had to do more on the border,

00:21:01.940 on the physical border to protect that border.

00:21:04.560 And so both of those countries engaged, again, in ways I've never seen, right?

00:21:09.420 10,000 troops from the Mexican National Guard deployed on their northern border,

00:21:15.940 our southern border.

00:21:17.220 Canada has done more to protect their physical border than I've ever seen.

00:21:21.840 Helicopters, night vision equipment, dedicated patrols from state, local, provincial,

00:21:27.760 and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

00:21:29.600 And so everybody is doing their part to help protect those borders and the sovereignty of

00:21:36.000 each of their countries, thereby giving us a better chance at the physical border to find

00:21:41.200 this stuff.

00:21:42.240 And then the cartels know that it's just not a walk in the park as it was for the four years

00:21:47.040 of the Biden administration.

00:21:48.100 That's remarkable.

00:21:50.100 Just to make sure that everyone is clear on this one, what you're telling me is that

00:21:55.560 on tariffs alone, there has been a big victory for the border.

00:22:00.500 So the tool of tariff negotiations to get us border security, that's already a win,

00:22:06.780 is what I'm gathering from what you're saying, especially with, you know, or rather with Mexico

00:22:10.620 and Canada.

00:22:12.100 100%.

00:22:12.540 There is no question that Canada and Mexico are doing more than they have ever done in

00:22:17.880 the history of the relationships of these three countries than they are doing right

00:22:21.700 now today.

00:22:23.080 And recognizing, you know, Canada put together legislation to spend millions of dollars on

00:22:29.640 their border to help us, to help identify the threats that are there.

00:22:33.660 They now have a fentanyl czar, which they didn't have before January 20th, 2025, 10,000 troops

00:22:40.540 on the Mexican border.

00:22:41.380 And you'll remember the rhetoric when Trump got elected, Claudia Scheinbaum, the president

00:22:45.600 in Mexico, all due respect, she was saying terrible things about how she wasn't going 0.58

00:22:49.340 to work.

00:22:49.760 She wasn't going to do the bidding of the United States or this president.

00:22:53.060 She deployed 10,000 troops.

00:22:54.700 No one has ever done that before her or since.

00:22:57.840 And so that has led to a huge reduction in illegal activity across the southwest border,

00:23:03.880 including fentanyl precursors into their country and then fentanyl across our border.

00:23:09.640 We're talking to Ron Vitello, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, senior advisor for this

00:23:14.740 administration.

00:23:15.860 Ron, let's talk about Big Beautiful Wall.

00:23:19.000 Major promise from Trump in the first term.

00:23:21.400 He has returned to this issue now in his second term.

00:23:24.700 I know that one of the ways that Stephen Miller and others are really trying to get people focused

00:23:29.420 in on the need to pass this Big Beautiful Bill is saying that there's ample funding for Border

00:23:36.180 Patrol, including for wall, barrier, actually securing it.

00:23:41.320 What can you tell us about that and the status of the wall right now?

00:23:45.180 How long would it take if we had the funding to get a lot more of it in place?

00:23:49.260 Let's do a little wall deep dive. 0.78

00:23:50.540 Well, to get the requirement that's identified by the Border Patrol, supported by the president,

00:23:56.560 right, he built a lot of wall in the first term, Trump one, and we expect to build a lot

00:24:02.180 more in Trump two.

00:24:04.120 And so what we're doing now with the help of the Department of Defense, we have 10,000 of

00:24:09.020 our own troops on the southwest border helping the Border Patrol side by side.

00:24:12.680 Part of what they're doing is giving agents better access to the border, fortifying the

00:24:17.400 wall and increasing the infrastructure that prevents people from entering at the border.

00:24:22.760 About 100 new miles of barrier placed either by DOD or by the Border Patrol itself with the

00:24:29.380 existing contracting and the funding left over from Trump one.

00:24:34.040 So Biden comes in, he puts a moratorium on all border construction.

00:24:38.020 And so it froze the activity for a while.

00:24:40.780 Um, and now we're in the, we have the ability for the next year or so to spend the little

00:24:46.860 money that's left from Trump one on wall.

00:24:49.580 And that's, that's equated so far to about a hundred miles.

00:24:53.440 And then there'll be new wall constructed using the funds from Trump one.

00:24:59.440 Um, and then we're hopeful that when the reconciliation passes, uh, there will be a huge investment in

00:25:06.220 infrastructure, including wall, uh, and tech that supports the wall and the agents

00:25:10.760 on the ground access to the border, uh, to give us about another hundred, about another 700 miles.

00:25:16.980 Uh, some of that will be a dual barrier.

00:25:19.600 We'll have some stuff in the river and on land in places like Texas where the, where the river

00:25:24.420 is actually the border.

00:25:25.560 Um, and in other places we'll fortify what exists and increase wall to about 700 new miles,

00:25:31.980 uh, under Trump too.

00:25:33.480 Is there a sense, uh, and I know from just law enforcement's sources down along the border,

00:25:40.260 border patrol sources and the various collection platforms that we have, uh, is there a sense

00:25:45.520 from the, the narco terrorist cartels on the other side of the border that, oh, there's

00:25:50.860 definitely a new sheriff in town?

00:25:52.280 Uh, 100%, uh, you know, that there's pressure from the Mexican government, which is as effective 1.00

00:25:59.080 as it can be given the circumstances, uh, the military to military relationship is producing

00:26:04.380 results, uh, including us helping target known cartel members, both sides of the border.

00:26:12.360 And it's just really hard now, uh, to cross the border versus the way it was before January

00:26:18.260 20th and 2025.

00:26:20.420 And so they are not being as successful.

00:26:22.940 We're watching the reaction from the cartels.

00:26:26.180 We had a really good intercept in Laredo yesterday of, uh, unmanned aerial systems, small, uh, drones,

00:26:32.700 if you will, caught one of those yesterday.

00:26:35.340 Wait, so they're using drones to try to drop off, uh, product drugs.

00:26:40.160 We believe this one was counter surveillance, but it remains to be seen.

00:26:44.880 We're going to try to exploit that.

00:26:46.260 The media that's in there, uh, to figure out exactly what it was, but, but so they're using

00:26:50.460 drones to watch you guys or your guys at border patrol.

00:26:53.720 Correct.

00:26:54.240 Correct.

00:26:54.620 That's, that's, they're using them mostly for that, but they're, it's not unheard of for

00:26:58.680 them to bring small packages.

00:27:00.120 I mean, fentanyl, you know, the, the profit margin on fentanyl is huge in Mexico.

00:27:04.400 And so they use it for those things as well.

00:27:07.260 But, um, again, giving agents time and ability, this was something that wouldn't have happened

00:27:12.360 seven months ago because they were too distracted with the massive humanity that was coming into

00:27:17.760 the border every 24 hours.

00:27:19.200 Now we have the ability when those sensors go off and when we can deploy against those

00:27:24.600 active threats.

00:27:25.620 Um, they did in fact, seize a drone in Laredo yesterday.

00:27:28.620 Um, and that's what the cartel is capable of.

00:27:31.000 And so we'll, we'll see more of that.

00:27:33.180 Uh, you know, there was a seizure in San Diego of about 7,000 pounds of methamphetamine in

00:27:38.640 San, uh, in California, which, which, you know, we haven't seen a seizure in that size

00:27:43.220 in, in probably over a year.

00:27:45.900 Um, and it was because the agents on the ground, the frontline has the time and ability to do

00:27:51.760 the work, you know, using the shoe leather, using their brains, using the intelligence holdings

00:27:56.380 that exist in the United States, uh, to track that 7,000 pounds.

00:28:00.920 We probably would not have gotten that, uh, pre-Trump because we're just too busy, um,

00:28:06.480 with the illegal activity that was coming across the border.

00:28:09.100 So yeah, the cartels have reacted.

00:28:11.240 Um, we're seeing increases, uh, on the coast near San Diego.

00:28:16.020 Uh, we expect that to be the case in near Brownsville as well.

00:28:20.260 Uh, the subterranean threat has now been magnified in the sense that the land border is much harder

00:28:25.680 to cross.

00:28:26.200 And so all the alternative routes of entry, um, are going to start to be used and exploited.

00:28:33.080 And so we need to be vigilant.

00:28:34.920 Uh, that's why we need to backstop what the frontline can do, uh, with policy and rhetoric

00:28:40.620 and consequences with more resources as in wall, as an infrastructure, as in boots on the

00:28:46.560 ground.

00:28:46.920 Um, that all has to be fortified and sustained, uh, if we want to keep the promise of making

00:28:52.340 America safe again.

00:28:54.460 Wondering if you could just speak to, uh, uh, the morale of the men and women of border

00:29:00.440 patrol now and what it feels like to have the mission and resources squared away like they

00:29:07.780 have been so far in this administration.

00:29:09.720 Yeah, no, the morale is very high.

00:29:12.740 Lots of smiles on the faces of the men and women who now have the tools and the support

00:29:17.680 that they require to be successful.

00:29:20.720 You know, agents are recruited because they are interested in a career that is mostly outdoors,

00:29:25.860 that mostly protects the country, that mostly is involved in activity designed to protect

00:29:32.100 us all.

00:29:32.560 And they weren't able to do that for the last, for the, for the last administration,

00:29:36.420 for the entirety of the Biden administration.

00:29:38.700 Uh, they are back in business.

00:29:40.500 The nonsense is over.

00:29:42.020 They have support all the way to the Oval Office.

00:29:44.820 Uh, you have the Secretary Noem out there visiting face to face with the frontline, asking

00:29:49.900 them what they need, ensuring they have those tools and watching them be successful.

00:29:54.420 And it's not just the incumbent agents, but it's also, um, recruitment is, is, is off the

00:30:00.500 charts, uh, doubled since, you know, before Trump.

00:30:03.820 And so, yeah, it's all going in that right direction as it relates to them being successful,

00:30:08.620 uh, which is why most of them are there.

00:30:10.940 That's why they take the oath because they want to protect us all.

00:30:13.460 Um, and now they have an opportunity to succeed as well.

00:30:17.720 Ron Vancello, advisor to CBP.

00:30:20.680 Thanks for the good work, sir.

00:30:21.820 Appreciate you being here.

00:30:23.140 Thanks for inviting me.

00:30:25.280 You consider yourself pro-life like I am.

00:30:27.560 Here's a wake-up call.

00:30:28.460 Despite the overturning of Roe v. Wade a few years ago, the number of abortions increased

00:30:33.220 this past year.

00:30:33.960 It's a tragedy.

00:30:35.040 That means the lives of more than a million babies were lost last year to abortion.

00:30:41.080 And there's no way this is going to just stop on its own.

00:30:45.080 We have to step up.

00:30:46.220 We, the pro-life community, have to give women the support, the love, and the clarity that

00:30:51.280 they need for life.

00:30:53.280 And that's where pre-born comes in.

00:30:54.780 So pre-born clinics are located in areas around the country with the highest abortion rates.

00:30:59.980 And they do this on purpose.

00:31:01.220 They're a frontline organization saving the lives of tiny babies in the womb day in and

00:31:06.780 day out.

00:31:07.760 Just imagine.

00:31:08.700 I was at a pre-born clinic here in Miami.

00:31:10.820 And I got to meet a little three-year-old girl.

00:31:13.060 And she was there because her mom, who's now very involved with pre-born and appreciates

00:31:18.520 pre-born, went to one of those clinics three years ago and had an ultrasound.

00:31:22.920 And that mom saw the little heartbeat, saw the little baby in her womb and realized, this

00:31:27.340 is a beautiful, precious life.

00:31:28.640 And I'm going to bring this life into the world.

00:31:30.660 And now I got to see this beautiful little three-year-old girl running around, her mom

00:31:34.040 full of smiles and also helping more and more moms to be just like her make the decision 0.68

00:31:41.500 for life.

00:31:41.960 This is what pre-born does.

00:31:43.760 They rely on your donations.

00:31:45.500 They rely on you.

00:31:46.640 They get no government money.

00:31:48.400 Yes, we have to vote for pro-life.

00:31:50.460 We also have to take action to save lives with pro-life organizations like pre-born.

00:31:55.540 A gift of $28 would be enough for an entire ultrasound process to be given to one of these 0.84

00:32:01.520 moms to be.

00:32:03.180 And to donate, all you have to do is dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby.

00:32:07.680 That's pound 250, say baby.

00:32:09.660 A couple of you out there had a great year so far this year.

00:32:12.320 You've made a lot of money.

00:32:13.220 Your business is doing really well.

00:32:14.820 Trump economy's kicked in.

00:32:16.800 You can afford, it's tax deductible by the way, but you can afford a $1,000 donation right

00:32:21.800 now to pre-born.

00:32:22.500 I know there are a few of you who can right now.

00:32:25.040 You're listening to this.

00:32:26.600 $1,000.

00:32:27.720 I can't even do the math for how many babies that would save off the top of my head.

00:32:32.040 About 30.

00:32:32.860 Yeah, think about that.

00:32:36.600 Dial pound 250, say the keyword baby.

00:32:40.200 That's pound 250, say the keyword baby.

00:32:43.000 $28, $1,000, whatever you can donate to this organization.

00:32:47.860 Most of you, $28, that's blessed.

00:32:50.100 That's incredible.

00:32:51.400 If you, you're fortunate enough right now, you can step up.

00:32:55.240 Dial pound 250, say the keyword baby.

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00:33:00.520 Hey, Buck, one of my kids called me an unk the other day.

00:33:11.460 An unk? 0.62

00:33:12.180 Yep, slaying evidently for not being hip, being an old dude. 0.99

00:33:15.500 So how do we un-unk you?

00:33:17.820 Get more people to subscribe to our YouTube channel.

00:33:20.940 At least that's what my kids tell me.

00:33:22.500 That's simple enough.

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00:33:26.940 Takes less than five seconds to help un-unk me.

00:33:30.180 Do it for Clay, do it for freedom, and get great content while you're there.

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00:33:36.620 Much to talk about.

00:33:37.580 More on the Big Beautiful Bill, some back and forth on that one.

00:33:41.000 I have a Supreme Court decision that I think is very interesting that I will break down for you.

00:33:49.440 We just spoke to an advisor to CBP.

00:33:52.520 You know, ICE made the most immigrant arrests, illegal immigrant arrests, in a single day, Tuesday of this week.

00:34:00.380 2,200 people in one day.

00:34:02.700 They're ramping up.

00:34:04.520 They are ramping up.

00:34:06.020 And that is certainly good to see.

00:34:08.900 On the bad side of things, a Colorado federal judge, a Biden appointee, of course,

00:34:15.640 has issued an order blocking the Trump administration from deporting the wife and five children of the terrorist in Boulder,

00:34:23.580 Mohammed Suleiman.

00:34:24.880 So, there's a judge who thinks that he's president, it seems.

00:34:31.160 This is really bad stuff for the country when you have these judges who really believe that they,

00:34:37.940 or act like they believe that they call the shots for the executive branch.

00:34:43.080 They have power over foreign policy.

00:34:44.760 They have power over everything.

00:34:46.520 They can just tell the president, you can't do that.

00:34:49.000 No constitutional anything for it.

00:34:51.060 No, you just can't do that.

00:34:51.940 I say you can't do that, so you can't do that.

00:34:54.360 Hundreds of lower court judges, and any one of them can just bind the commander-in-chief's hands on a whim.

00:35:03.540 And also, as we see, they keep, a lot of them are overturned by the Supreme Court when they eventually make their way up there.

00:35:08.780 So, they're overturned and also very partisan from the get-go.

00:35:14.840 But we're supposed to think that this is okay.

00:35:17.500 Why should we think that this, well, it's not, as you know.

00:35:21.340 And we'll continue to follow this very closely.

00:35:24.820 Now, something else that I think is worth a bit of our time.

00:35:31.360 And it is how this moment is when all of the people who were part of the Biden lie are running for cover,

00:35:43.120 are scrambling away from what they did to the country, and trying to cash in on it.

00:35:48.960 As you know, I saw through the whole Tapper thing all along.

00:35:53.780 This is somebody who was a nasty defender of all things Biden cognition during the Biden administration.

00:36:01.400 He's a Democrat activist. 0.96

00:36:03.520 He is a very noxious combination of psychotically thin-skinned Tapper, as well as wildly narcissistic,

00:36:13.200 and thinks that he can fool all of us into believing that he did the crime but should not do the time when it comes to the Biden cover-up.

00:36:21.420 That he is the guy who should be speaking truth to power.

00:36:25.400 It didn't work.

00:36:27.560 I think people have seen through this.

00:36:28.900 Yeah, he's selling a lot of books, but I think he's sold whatever was left of his credibility along with it.

00:36:35.260 And so that's one case of this, right?

00:36:38.280 One case of a Democrat propagandist running for the exits,

00:36:42.140 or rather trying to not switch teams, but just reposition himself for the next go-around with the next administration.

00:36:51.760 And then you have this, Corrine Jean-Pierre.

00:36:57.300 And I remember when she was the Biden press secretary,

00:37:01.600 you know, we would talk about some of the things that she said,

00:37:03.640 but we really started to, I think, lay off on this show because it felt like, you know, she just wasn't up for it.

00:37:15.940 And it's different when you're the president versus when you're the press secretary.

00:37:19.100 If the president's brain doesn't work, it's not mean, I have to say it.

00:37:23.680 If the White House press secretary is just not very bright and not very capable,

00:37:27.300 I mean, I'm going to say it, but, you know, I really, I don't, I'll tell you this.

00:37:32.320 Two things to our credit, but maybe in this business sometimes a bit of a hindrance.

00:37:38.200 I'm not a mean guy, and Clay's not a mean guy.

00:37:40.160 We don't like being mean to anybody.

00:37:42.640 We choose to be as kind as we can be, I think, both of us in our own ways.

00:37:47.820 Kindness is different than niceness, I agree with that.

00:37:49.980 Niceness is, oh, I don't want to be offensive, and I'm, you know, nice.

00:37:53.180 Eh, kindness is no, I want to treat people, I want to treat people well,

00:37:57.320 and whenever possible, be respectful and good faith and positive in my interactions

00:38:03.420 with my fellow human beings.

00:38:05.840 And so basically I'm saying, like, we felt, almost felt bad for Karine Jean-Pierre

00:38:10.260 because she was so in and over her head and it was so obvious.

00:38:13.240 And I didn't feel like beating up on her on the show was really,

00:38:16.900 yeah, we had some fun with us sometimes, but it's very different.

00:38:19.480 Like, weekend at Bernie's Biden, he's the commander-in-chief, unacceptable, 1.00

00:38:23.840 he's a fraudster, he's a liar, the whole thing was disgusting. 0.99

00:38:27.100 Karine Jean-Pierre is somebody who, like, she was a DEI hire 0.99

00:38:30.600 in the sense that she clearly was not up for this job,

00:38:34.060 but she is a lesbian and she is black, and that was very exciting.

00:38:40.160 Those characteristics were very exciting for Democrats to have

00:38:44.240 in a White House press secretary.

00:38:45.300 Now, the conservative view on these things, and you see this with,

00:38:49.700 you know, you've got different people who could be, or rather are, I guess,

00:38:55.020 diversity technically within the Trump administration, 0.88

00:38:58.780 whether it's women or, you know, Richard Grinnell is gay. 0.66

00:39:02.060 I mean, there's these people that are, that have worked for Trump at senior level.

00:39:05.620 And it's just about, are they good at the job?

00:39:07.680 And there's not this obsession with the, either immutable characteristics

00:39:13.400 or the sexual orientation or anything like this about these individuals.

00:39:17.900 We just pick people, or, you know, Trump picks people that he thinks will be really good.

00:39:23.640 And he puts a, he's put a lot of women, as you've noticed, for example,

00:39:27.200 in senior positions, and these are some tough ladies, 0.98

00:39:30.340 and they're, they're showing their competency day in and day out.

00:39:33.480 I mean, everyone, somebody like Caroline, Caroline Levitt is doing a phenomenal job

00:39:37.500 as White House press secretary.

00:39:39.920 But Corrine Jean-Pierre just, she didn't have it.

00:39:42.860 She wasn't very good at this.

00:39:44.860 She was not up to the task.

00:39:46.440 And I actually think that it was clear to a lot of people that that was the case.

00:39:52.320 And so she did not get very much heat from the media.

00:39:56.120 Yes, because she was home team, I understand.

00:39:59.360 And yes, she's, she's a, a black lesbian, and therefore is, is in the world of identity politics, 0.92

00:40:07.020 double protected, as the left views this, right?

00:40:10.380 If you're a conservative, if you're on the right, you just view people as people.

00:40:13.480 And you treat them as people, and you expect, you know, you, you hold everyone to the same framework

00:40:18.320 of, are you good at this, are you bad at this?

00:40:20.800 Are you doing your job, are you not doing your job?

00:40:22.440 That's, that is the right conservative point of view.

00:40:27.180 The liberal point of view is, well, we're going to pick people for different things.

00:40:31.800 And this goes to a Supreme Court case I'm going to talk about in a second here.

00:40:35.280 But the left-wing point of view, the Democrat point of view, we're going to pick people,

00:40:39.180 and we're going to tell you they're just as good as anybody else,

00:40:41.800 and they're not picked for these reasons, but we're also going to praise them for being

00:40:45.000 these different things.

00:40:46.960 So there's a cognitive dissonance here, right?

00:40:49.320 Like, this has always been the problem with affirmative action,

00:40:51.580 always been the problem with DEI.

00:40:52.980 You can't say, we need to give an advantage to people because of skin color,

00:40:59.380 sexual orientation, whatever.

00:41:01.840 But you can't think that we're giving anybody an advantage because of those things.

00:41:06.640 This is the fundamental, and the fundamental disconnect,

00:41:09.760 this is the cognitive dissonance.

00:41:11.560 And then they do this thing of, oh, but it's just a little bit.

00:41:14.560 It's just a little bit of a help.

00:41:15.860 Because when you start to corner them on these issues, you find out that this doesn't,

00:41:21.080 it can't hold up.

00:41:22.080 This doesn't make sense.

00:41:22.820 You can't ask somebody.

00:41:23.840 You can't say, I'm picking this person because of A, and then you're not allowed to say,

00:41:29.660 I'm picking this person because of A. 0.99

00:41:31.860 You can't do that.

00:41:33.320 That does not compute.

00:41:35.320 You're asking us to, you know, believe that up is down.

00:41:40.400 And, or rather, demanding that we believe that up is down.

00:41:43.780 So, that's what we saw with Green Trump here.

00:41:48.640 And now she is putting out a book called Independent.

00:41:53.420 Here she is announcing.

00:41:54.540 So, she's leaving the Democrat Party.

00:41:56.860 She's not just talking about the Biden administration.

00:41:58.760 She's leaving the Democrat Party.

00:42:00.180 This is cut two.

00:42:02.340 This is how she described the broken White House on Instagram.

00:42:06.480 I think we need to stop thinking in boxes and think outside of our boxes and not be so partisan.

00:42:14.260 And the way that I see moving forward in this space that we're in right now is if you are willing

00:42:21.060 to stand side by side with me, regardless of your political, how you identify politically,

00:42:26.440 and as long as you respect the community that I belong to and vulnerable communities that I respect,

00:42:34.340 I will be there with you.

00:42:36.120 I will be, I will move forward with you.

00:42:38.560 And that is, I think, so important.

00:42:42.820 Hmm?

00:42:45.260 What happened to the Democrat Party?

00:42:47.400 Why is she leaving the Democrat Party? 0.99

00:42:48.760 She was the chief spokeswoman for the Biden regime.

00:42:53.040 And now she's an independent?

00:42:54.640 Now she's talking about how she's, it makes no sense.

00:43:02.260 It makes no sense.

00:43:06.160 But what's interesting to me now is this is completely predictable.

00:43:11.520 Now there are Democrat sources that are trashing her all over the place. 1.00

00:43:15.220 Oh, she wasn't up for it.

00:43:17.200 She wouldn't let Kirby, remember Kirby, you know, the white guy from the Pentagon?

00:43:20.820 He was going to do briefings of national security, but she wouldn't let him because he's so much

00:43:26.940 smarter than she is and it made her insecure, so he wasn't allowed to.

00:43:31.120 And now everyone's talking about this.

00:43:33.440 I'm sorry.

00:43:34.640 When you propagate the lie because it is worth it for you to do so, you don't get to turn

00:43:40.840 around and pretend you're a hero when it doesn't matter anymore.

00:43:43.820 And this is really the whole situation of what's going on now with some of these, whether it's

00:43:50.460 Tapper or Green Jump here.

00:43:51.860 There's going to be others, too.

00:43:53.600 Now, all of a sudden, you know, they're trying to tell you that they've had this big change

00:43:58.000 of heart.

00:43:58.420 They see what's going on.

00:43:59.940 Why won't they say, why won't they, you know, reach out to people like me, for example,

00:44:03.940 and say, you were right, I don't just mean me, but, you know, people on the right in

00:44:07.620 general, why won't they just say they were right, and I should really think about why

00:44:10.840 they were right, and I should think about why I lied publicly, speaking from the Democrat

00:44:17.240 perspective, why they lied about things when they just had to know everything they were

00:44:24.400 saying was nonsense.

00:44:26.320 And what does that say about their character?

00:44:28.120 What does that say about their integrity?

00:44:29.700 I mean, they have, it means they have no integrity, and they have no integrity at all.

00:44:36.960 Here you go.

00:44:37.920 Who cares?

00:44:39.340 Congressional Dems say good riddance to Kareem Jean-Pierre.

00:44:43.480 This is from Axios.

00:44:45.560 Democrat lawmakers say, who cares?

00:44:47.840 Here we go.

00:44:48.780 Her explanation for this move is as confusing and disjointed as her answers in the White House

00:44:53.440 press briefing. 1.00

00:44:55.520 Democrats are trashing her now and basically saying she's, she's an idiot. 1.00

00:45:00.080 That's what they're saying. 1.00

00:45:01.400 She never was up for it, never could do it. 0.99

00:45:03.100 So they put a black lesbian in this role. 1.00

00:45:08.440 Tell us it's amazing. 0.99

00:45:09.920 Tell us they didn't do it, though, because she's a black lesbian. 1.00

00:45:12.960 They say they just did it because she's so good at the job. 0.90

00:45:16.940 And we say, but she's not good at the job. 1.00

00:45:19.780 And they say, how dare you?

00:45:22.060 She's good at the job. 0.81

00:45:23.180 And now that the whole thing is falling apart, the administration's done, they lost, it's, 1.00

00:45:28.460 oh, no, she was an idiot all along. 1.00

00:45:29.940 And the only reason she had the job was because she's a black lesbian and Democrats are obsessed 1.00

00:45:34.060 with DEI. 0.97

00:45:34.920 And that is what Democrats are saying.

00:45:36.600 So everything that we tell you on this show about what's going on, you'll notice, true.

00:45:43.960 The things that we say, we just keep getting more affirmation of, and we said it all along.

00:45:49.200 The other side has to keep trying to find ways to explain to their audience, to their voters,

00:45:55.960 why they lie and why they're wrong about everything.

00:45:59.800 You could say this is a trend.

00:46:01.540 You could say this is an indicator of something.

00:46:04.280 And now I'm going to come back and speak about the Supreme Court decision that just came down.

00:46:08.200 It turns out you can't discriminate.

00:46:10.360 You can't say I'm firing you and hiring a lesbian because she's a lesbian. 1.00

00:46:15.160 This is a real case. 0.98

00:46:16.200 This just happened.

00:46:17.160 That this is wrong.

00:46:18.000 Of course it's wrong.

00:46:19.040 It's always been wrong. 0.98

00:46:20.160 But it was also always wrong to hire somebody because they were a black lesbian or a lesbian 1.00

00:46:24.640 or an Eskimo or whatever. 0.92

00:46:28.400 It's always been wrong to do that.

00:46:30.460 It was never okay to do this thing that was done for a long time.

00:46:33.720 And now the courts agree with me.

00:46:36.020 Now, you know, if any of you out there are fired so they can hire a minority or a trans individual 0.93

00:46:44.520 or whatever, you can sue.

00:46:47.840 Because it's wrong.

00:46:49.720 Let's talk about this.

00:46:50.600 Let's come back to this sanity shortly here.

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00:48:19.700 A little bit of trouble in paradise here in MAGA world.

00:48:24.860 I don't want to ignore this.

00:48:26.340 Like I said, it's like watching my family members picker or something.

00:48:29.820 I'm like, guys, guys, come on, come on.

00:48:32.040 You know, I don't like it.

00:48:32.920 I don't like it.

00:48:34.380 I don't like it.

00:48:35.720 Trump and Elon.

00:48:36.560 Elon, there's a bit of a little bit of, you know, static.

00:48:42.100 Call it static.

00:48:43.620 I think they'll smooth this thing over.

00:48:45.260 But look, Elon's not working in the administration anymore.

00:48:48.080 So, it doesn't really matter.

00:48:49.080 Him going back to, well, it matters.

00:48:51.380 But it's not a big deal.

00:48:52.720 Him going back to running Tesla, which is a company that I very much believe in, thinks is incredible.

00:48:57.660 And SpaceX and X, the platform.

00:49:01.420 And Elon has done a lot.

00:49:04.040 A lot for the country.

00:49:05.420 A lot for MAGA.

00:49:07.080 And Doge has been, I think, eye-opening in a way that we really needed to see.

00:49:13.020 All of that said, it is a little bit frustrating here to see Trump and Elon having a bit of a spat over what's going on here with the spending bill.

00:49:25.560 So, Trump is now saying that Elon, wait, hold on a second.

00:49:32.360 Make sure I get this right.

00:49:34.540 Elon has Trump derangement syndrome.

00:49:38.600 Here we go.

00:49:39.040 President Trump appeared to, oh, wait, we actually have some sound.

00:49:41.540 Guys, can you play the, this is from the Oval Office.

00:49:44.120 Trump talked about the situation with Elon.

00:49:45.860 Elon, I don't know what the number is on this one, but you can pull up the clip.

00:49:49.900 We had it before.

00:49:51.200 Let's hear what Trump is saying about the Elon relationship.

00:49:53.720 Play it.

00:49:54.340 Elon and I had a great relationship.

00:49:57.900 I don't know if we will anymore.

00:49:59.480 I was surprised because you were here.

00:50:01.500 Everybody in this room practically was here as we had a wonderful send-off.

00:50:05.280 He said wonderful things about me.

00:50:06.780 He couldn't have nicer.

00:50:07.700 He said the best thing.

00:50:09.560 He's worn the hat.

00:50:11.180 Trump was right about everything.

00:50:12.460 And I am right about the great, big, beautiful bill.

00:50:16.740 We call it a great, big, beautiful bill because that's what it is.

00:50:20.240 And, again, biggest tax cuts in history, biggest economic development moves anywhere.

00:50:26.060 We've never done anything like it.

00:50:29.720 Saying they may not have a great relationship going forward.

00:50:31.680 Look, one thing about Trump you have to remember, and you know this and I know this,

00:50:36.120 is that, you know, he's not an opponent you want to have.

00:50:40.380 It's not going to go well for you.

00:50:42.460 But he also always keeps the tent flap open for you to come back and, you know, be back

00:50:50.240 on the team.

00:50:51.600 He has really a remarkable willingness to bring people back into the fold who want to be part

00:51:00.260 of the agenda and want to move the country in the same direction.

00:51:04.200 Want a great example of this?

00:51:06.300 Marco Rubio.

00:51:06.900 I mean, Marco Rubio and Trump went at each other in that primary in 2016.

00:51:12.460 You remember, you know, talking about, like, little hands and stuff.

00:51:17.000 And, you know, Marco decided he was going to play a little rough with Trump and Trump could

00:51:21.000 play a lot rougher.

00:51:22.540 We all remember what happened.

00:51:23.900 We all remember what happened.

00:51:24.660 And now Marco Rubio is Trump's A-plus Secretary of State, total confidence in going both ways

00:51:33.900 there.

00:51:34.540 And he's doing great stuff for the administration.

00:51:36.780 And, you know, Marco Rubio is just getting it done and Trump knows it.

00:51:39.480 And he is dialed in.

00:51:40.900 He is locked in.

00:51:41.740 And a lot of people are saying Rubio kind of gets the most improved award on the Republican

00:51:48.380 side of things.

00:51:49.480 And he's doing great stuff.

00:51:51.600 And the Secretary of State deserves a lot of credit for that.

00:51:54.420 We'll have him on the show hopefully sometime soon.

00:51:56.140 We'll talk to him about it.

00:51:57.680 But, yeah, I think it's exactly the case that Trump will always allow people to come back 1.00

00:52:07.280 in after there's been a public split, unless they, like, play really dirty and try to imprison 0.83

00:52:11.980 his family or something, which some lunatics have tried to do.

00:52:14.940 But I bring this up because this is what Elon put out on X.

00:52:19.940 Elon's the richest guy on the planet.

00:52:21.560 I don't know.

00:52:22.520 Are there two guys with bigger and both very deserved but bigger egos on Earth?

00:52:30.200 I don't know.

00:52:31.600 It would be.

00:52:32.260 I mean, there's delusionally, you know, Keith Olbermann. 0.99

00:52:34.500 I mean, there's people who have huge egos who are total losers.

00:52:36.780 For people who are actually winners with big egos, Trump and Elon are high up on the list,

00:52:43.200 right?

00:52:44.460 And Elon put this out there on X just in the last, about an hour, hour and change ago.

00:52:51.940 Without me, this is Elon, without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control

00:52:59.800 the House, and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate.

00:53:05.100 And then he added, such ingratitude.

00:53:11.980 Okay.

00:53:13.420 Just look, I'm just telling you what's happening here.

00:53:16.040 Just saying that there's a little bit of a thing.

00:53:18.300 A little bit.

00:53:18.940 A little bit of a speed bump.

00:53:23.240 I think it's all going to be fine.

00:53:24.660 Elon's upset about this bill.

00:53:26.820 He's a true believer in cutting the government spending.

00:53:29.120 And I understand what his case is with this.

00:53:32.480 The problem is, I've laid out the problem.

00:53:35.000 For one, it's, if you tried to do what Elon wants them to do, you would not have passage

00:53:40.300 of it in Congress.

00:53:42.500 So what's the way forward then?

00:53:46.520 I don't understand what the way forward is.

00:53:48.680 Because you have to get Democrats to go on.

00:53:50.460 If you have to get Democrats to go on board, now you got nothing.

00:53:53.620 Now you're just letting the Democrats call the shots.

00:53:56.000 That's crazy.

00:53:57.380 So, unless you want to nuke the filibuster on this issue, in this moment, and remember

00:54:01.900 the Democrats will be very happy to go completely insane the moment they have 51 seats in the

00:54:07.720 Senate if the filibuster's gone.

00:54:09.040 And they may still do that in the future.

00:54:10.760 And maybe that's the argument that should be made right now.

00:54:13.140 But that's not the argument that's being made.

00:54:14.720 But it's, yeah, the bromance of Trump and Elon right now, they want a little space.

00:54:22.280 They want a little space.

00:54:24.220 Trump is out on the golf course.

00:54:25.840 Elon's going for a walk on the beach.

00:54:28.420 There's some sad music playing in the background.

00:54:31.120 I think they're both probably having some moments where they think back to, you know, hand

00:54:35.920 in hand, walking down the White House lawn and talking about how great Tesla is and the

00:54:41.980 happy music going, we're in a different part of the story right now.

00:54:46.860 It's a little sad, but it's going to be okay.

00:54:50.160 I'm sure that they will make amends. 0.91

00:54:51.680 I'm not, I don't think this is some dumb big thing. 0.93

00:54:54.580 Elon is red-pilled. 0.94

00:54:55.620 Elon knows that MAGA is, it's just a question of whether we want to have a sane country and

00:55:01.620 a sane government. 0.99

00:55:02.460 Democrats are complete lunatics. 1.00

00:55:04.560 Total lunatics, honestly. 1.00

00:55:05.760 Their party, yeah, there are smart, nice Democrats. 0.99

00:55:08.560 I'm friends with plenty of Democrats.

00:55:09.860 That's not what I'm saying.

00:55:10.900 The Democrat Party, though, is now run by an ideology that is just deranged.

00:55:15.840 We see this, whether we're talking about the trans-athlete stuff that they're still sticking 0.77

00:55:19.320 to or, you don't even really know what the Democrats stand for right now because they're

00:55:24.180 still trying to regain some footing after supporting a dementia patient for four years that obviously

00:55:31.960 had dementia and they pretend like he didn't and now we all have to sit around saying, well,

00:55:35.300 you knew the whole time.

00:55:37.340 How can you, how can you lecture us on anything?

00:55:39.600 How can Democrats lecture us on anything when it comes to government or decision making

00:55:44.920 or whatever when they had Joe Biden as president for four years and we all knew and they knew?

00:55:50.260 What grounds do they have to stand on here?

00:55:52.380 So, I just wanted to, I wanted to note that there's a little bit of, a little bit of friction

00:55:59.920 right now in MAGA world with Trump and Elon and I just, I'll say this too, two alpha dogs

00:56:06.040 like that, this was, if I didn't say it on this show, it's because I didn't want to rain

00:56:11.140 on the election parade of how great everything was going, but we've all known that eventually

00:56:17.820 this is, this was going to, there was going to be a little bit of a, and I, and when I

00:56:22.220 say a little bit of a break, I don't mean that they're going to hate each other and Elon's

00:56:25.600 going to go left wing and Trump's going to have to throw big haymakers at him publicly

00:56:29.660 for a long time, but there was a, there was a time limit to how long I think these two guys

00:56:35.040 could really closely collaborate, um, before it was going to be best for all that Trump goes back

00:56:40.600 to being president and Elon goes back to running his companies and that is where we are.

00:56:44.360 So, it's, it's not a big deal, but you know, the bromance movie here is, like I said, this is a

00:56:51.880 little bit of a different space. I'm sure, give it a few months, Elon will be at Mar-a-Lago,

00:56:55.860 they'll be laughing and up and having dinner and everything else, but Elon's a very intense,

00:56:59.160 I don't know him, but just, I haven't met him actually, which is kind of a shame. I'd

00:57:02.420 like to meet him at some point. Uh, Elon's a very intense guy, obviously, and believes

00:57:08.740 very much in the mission that he was taking on at Doge. And when you have that level of

00:57:14.620 intensity, you can become a little, uh, I don't know if monomaniacal is the right word.

00:57:21.160 You get a little, a little too laser focused on that one thing. Trump has got to focus on a

00:57:25.100 lot of things and he does have to deal with what is possible out there.

00:57:29.160 And this is a difference, right? Elon, Elon is used to being, you can be much closer to

00:57:35.900 a truly, you can be much closer to a dictator in your day-to-day affair, a day-to-day affairs

00:57:40.780 as the CEO and primary shareholder of a company. You can be much closer to a dictator than you

00:57:48.860 can as president with a Congress and a Supreme court and 350 million people who all have opinions,

00:57:55.560 right? It's, it's different. It's different. Um, now I know Trump has been CEO of companies too,

00:58:01.260 so he understands that, but Elon's never been president and there's, uh, some, some nuances

00:58:06.780 here that are in the skillset. Uh, but I'm wondering what you think about this one. If you, I, I am not

00:58:12.440 surprised by this at all. I will just say, I'm not surprised by this at all. I was also not surprised

00:58:17.000 at all at the Elon Ramaswamy, uh, split that occurred right away. I won't get into that now.

00:58:23.580 Maybe we'll talk about that another time, but I knew that Elon was like, um, that was not going to

00:58:27.340 work. Um, and I, I, I, I'm just saying that that was, and everyone who knows me and, uh,

00:58:33.000 knows my feelings on that or they know that I, that wasn't going to be, I was on vacation when,

00:58:40.620 uh, and, and overseas. So I really wasn't online or, or getting involved in it, but that whole H1B 1.00

00:58:46.600 visa situation with, uh, with Elon and Ramaswamy and, and Trump and MAGA. Yeah. So anyway, I want to

00:58:55.440 get back to our agenda here. What's going on with, uh, with the country and, and all the good things that

00:59:00.280 are happening, but I had to take note of, there's a little bit of a disturbance in the force, if you

00:59:05.280 will, with Trump and Elon. It's going to be, it's going to be fine now. I'm telling you those guys,

00:59:08.360 it's one of Trump's nicest qualities, uh, really just as a person is that he's willing to,

00:59:14.360 he's willing to let people see the error of their ways and come back and, and bring them back into the

00:59:19.880 fold. And it's fine. Um, it's a really nice, it's a really lovely quality to have. I will say

00:59:25.280 many people don't have that at all. Many people hold grudges, uh, and grudges are kind

00:59:31.380 of, grudges are not generally good grudges. I think usually are toxic, uh, or, you know,

00:59:37.880 usually have a toxicity to them. I, I didn't get to get into the details of the Supreme court

00:59:43.340 decision, but essentially the notion of reverse discrimination has been flipped on its head

00:59:49.680 here. The Supreme court had to, uh, the, the basics of this are a woman was working for a, 1.00

00:59:53.840 uh, uh, hold on. It was like a juvenile detention facility or something. She was

00:59:59.900 administrator. She applied for a more senior job. They didn't give her that job. And then 0.95

01:00:03.700 they demoted her and she lost out to somebody who was a lesbian and then she was replaced by 1.00

01:00:07.620 somebody who was gay. And she felt like there was some DEI stuff going on here and she sued

01:00:13.260 and the lower courts, the, uh, the district court and the circuit, but this is aims VO aims

01:00:18.220 the Ohio department of youth services. And, uh, what, what the lower courts found was, well,

01:00:25.200 you're a heterosexual female. So, uh, it's not really possible for you to be, uh, this was,

01:00:34.100 yeah, like I said, this was in Ohio. It's not really possible for you to be discriminated

01:00:37.200 against. And they said that she failed to clear the bar applied to members of a majority group

01:00:45.460 in order to be considered discriminated against under title seven of the civil rights act.

01:00:51.560 So there's a higher burden if you're straight than if you're LGBTQIA plus, because you're still 1.00

01:00:58.060 supposed to be protected. These are protected characteristics, right? You can't discriminate

01:01:01.900 on the basis of sex, can't discriminate on the basis of skin color, ethnicity, right? That that's

01:01:07.500 the law, but they're saying, well, but it's harder to prove discrimination. If you're white,

01:01:11.880 or it's harder to prove discrimination, if you're straight. And by a unanimous decision

01:01:19.080 written by, uh, written by, uh, justice Jackson, Katanji Brown Jackson, that the standard

01:01:30.140 is the standard and discrimination is discrimination. And so you fire somebody or you demote somebody

01:01:38.540 or whatever. And it's, it's provable that you did it. So you could hire someone who's gay or you

01:01:43.580 could hire somebody who's, you know, uh, an Eskimo or you, whatever that's wrong. No more reverse 0.99

01:01:51.640 discrimination. It's just discrimination. We're, we're either protected and you can't hurt anyone

01:01:57.680 based upon things they can't change, which is obviously what is ethical and what the law should

01:02:01.640 be, or we got a problem. The left hates this of course, because this is a huge challenge to the

01:02:10.780 DEI regime. This is a huge challenge to the racial spoil system and the gender identity spoil system 0.78

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