Verdict with Ted Cruz - Bonus： Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton

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00:00:04.660 Welcome, everybody.

00:00:06.180 Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off right now.

00:00:12.680 A lot going on.

00:00:14.660 So we know yesterday when I was on the air with you,

00:00:17.040 oh, Clay will, in fact, call us from his super secret mission abroad this hour.

00:00:24.320 So we're going to set that up for you.

00:00:25.860 Clay's out for the week.

00:00:26.940 He's traveling, but he wants to tell you what he's doing.

00:00:30.000 He's been up to.

00:00:31.480 One of you might have already guessed it, which was a pretty remarkable, remarkable thing.

00:00:36.340 But he'll be joining us later on.

00:00:38.500 And we also have Michael Watley joining.

00:00:42.600 He's running for Senate in North Carolina.

00:00:44.160 So looking forward to that as that conversation gets rolling.

00:00:49.380 Now, now, we had yesterday the House all voting in favor of, except for one guy, a Republican,

00:01:00.000 voting in favor of the Epstein Transparency Act.

00:01:03.340 And then we had last night the Senate passing the same bill unanimously.

00:01:12.600 Senators locked in agreement, automatically passing the bill as soon as it came in from the House.

00:01:17.060 Just looking at the updates here.

00:01:21.220 Once the president signs the bill, the Justice Department has 30 days to release materials related to Jeffrey Epstein.

00:01:30.540 Now, this is moving.

00:01:33.520 The president has already said that he believes this is or that he's supportive of this.

00:01:39.920 Now, he has said that he thinks this is the right move.

00:01:43.080 So we're going to get into what's going to happen here.

00:01:46.200 It's not like we're going to know all of the details, even for some time here.

00:01:52.420 There may be further redactions that happen or rather that we will have to contend with, because my sense is if the redactions are extensive enough.

00:02:03.900 Then people will say that's not going to fly.

00:02:07.040 That's not good enough.

00:02:08.360 There have to be more things that are released.

00:02:13.560 So that's one possibility.

00:02:15.040 Another possibility is that there's nothing massive, and I say massive, in the information that is released, the files, if you will, of this investigation.

00:02:28.460 And then people just say they hid stuff, and there's still a clamoring for more transparency, more...

00:02:35.360 Those are some of the things that I think could come out of this.

00:02:39.280 But there was this today, as I was preparing for our show here.

00:02:43.800 This is cut 27.

00:02:46.020 Pam Bondi, the attorney general, referring to the Epstein investigation as a pending investigation.

00:02:54.220 Play 27.

00:02:55.560 The issue with the new information that you just indicated, is the department seeking information, perhaps from the Epstein estate,

00:03:04.340 because Mr. Blanche did not have that information when he interviewed Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:03:08.840 What new information?

00:03:10.140 And would you limit the new investigation to just those named persons that the president talked about,

00:03:15.520 or is this a broad, open-ended investigation?

00:03:18.780 I would refer to the deputy attorney general's post that he put out on X,

00:03:24.440 and we're not going to say anything else on that,

00:03:28.020 because now it is a pending investigation in the Southern District of New York.

00:03:31.860 A pending investigation.

00:03:38.040 Meanwhile, the House has demanded Epstein financial records from JPMorgan Chase, Deutsche Bank, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

00:03:50.160 That's just in the last 24 hours.

00:03:53.420 Now, a few things here.

00:03:57.600 I can't tell you.

00:03:58.680 I don't know, obviously, and none of you know.

00:04:00.760 No one outside of a very small circle knows what is in this release that Donald Trump,

00:04:08.140 I am very confident, is going to sign the final step, if you will, before the release.

00:04:13.520 And then there's 30 days.

00:04:14.920 So we're going to wait a bit.

00:04:16.640 We're going to wait a bit for this information.

00:04:18.460 I don't know exactly how many days, but they have up to 30 days to release.

00:04:22.540 Maybe it'll come much faster than that.

00:04:24.360 We'll see how the bureaucracy handles this.

00:04:27.420 But I sit here and I say to myself, because you know,

00:04:31.320 and the House has already released 65,000 documents related to Epstein,

00:04:36.460 you know very well that I have been pounding a certain drum on this issue of follow the money.

00:04:46.680 Follow the money.

00:04:47.940 It is completely unthinkable, unthinkable to me, or rather it should be unthinkable,

00:04:55.560 maybe a better way of putting it, that we do not have a full accounting

00:05:00.220 of how Epstein pulled together a fortune that was approaching a billion dollars.

00:05:07.920 This guy did not create some new product.

00:05:10.920 He did not found some company.

00:05:12.760 He was not some, you know, hedge fund guy running $30 billion of other people's money.

00:05:18.720 There are ways you can make a billion dollars.

00:05:22.620 Tax advice is not one of them.

00:05:26.080 It's just not one of them.

00:05:29.080 And so this then brings up, how did he make this money?

00:05:33.820 Why is it that there were some people in Epstein's orbit who were unbelievably,

00:05:41.840 and I mean that in the real sense of can't believe it, unbelievably generous to him?

00:05:48.780 Why?

00:05:49.380 The money, I think, is the single best chance we have to get these answers.

00:05:58.080 According to the subpoenas that were just put out by the House,

00:06:01.060 JPMorgan Chase began an internal investigation into accounts previously held by Epstein,

00:06:05.740 flagging some 4,700 transactions as suspicious.

00:06:09.940 Epstein held accounts and banked with Deutsche Bank from 2013 until 2018.

00:06:14.760 So they're going back in here into the money trail.

00:06:20.680 And I sit here wondering how it is, and by the way, I want to be clear that sometimes

00:06:27.120 I will ask questions here that are rhetorical because something isn't adding up.

00:06:32.740 How is it possible that we don't have a full and clear understanding of where all of Epstein's money came from?

00:06:42.560 We've had a little bit here, a little bit there.

00:06:44.760 But this should be obvious.

00:06:47.340 And I might add, if it's somewhere already, if they have the flow chart of funds,

00:06:52.640 if it's in the release, why haven't we already been given it?

00:06:58.280 Why is it taking all of this pressure and all of this time,

00:07:01.740 why is it taking us to this place to be in a situation to finally get those answers?

00:07:09.120 So there's more that is coming out here.

00:07:12.360 Now, I think you can pretty much set your watch to this one, no matter what happens here

00:07:20.620 with the files in terms of nothing.

00:07:25.380 This is all about getting Trump for the Democrats.

00:07:27.300 And there's something very grotesque about Democrats suddenly caring.

00:07:34.560 They didn't care about this during the Biden administration.

00:07:37.460 Suddenly caring so much about the Epstein files, Epstein's victims, all of this.

00:07:44.060 It's hard not to view it as posturing, because it is posturing, meant to create the moral high ground

00:07:54.180 from which they can throw mud at Donald Trump, or at least the appearance of such a thing.

00:07:58.860 No matter what happens with these files, I can assure you, they will not say, you know, you know, Trump is cleared.

00:08:05.780 Trump didn't do it, didn't do anything.

00:08:07.820 And so that also brings us to why I think Trump wasn't so immediately in favor of the release.

00:08:15.840 Because no matter how much transparency he offers, or rather he gives,

00:08:20.980 and for a lot of you, I understand, this is a follow-through on a campaign promise.

00:08:24.220 So you want it irrespective of anything else.

00:08:26.620 And that's very valid.

00:08:27.800 And clearly Trump has decided that that's what's going to happen.

00:08:34.340 This should have been done, I think a lot of people recognize now, sooner.

00:08:38.620 A lot of you were calling in and demanding it, to which I just kept saying,

00:08:41.460 yeah, I want more transparency.

00:08:42.860 I don't have the files, right?

00:08:44.240 It's not in my power to release them.

00:08:46.200 And all we can do is air, as we did, our sense that there's more here,

00:08:53.380 and that there's more to be uncovered.

00:08:55.320 And I think that that has certainly happened.

00:08:58.220 I think that has certainly been a very real motivation here, right?

00:09:05.740 Telling people, having the Trump base come forward and say,

00:09:11.980 we don't have the answers we want.

00:09:14.160 We're not accepting anything else.

00:09:16.200 It's time for this all to come clean.

00:09:20.360 Now, Speaker Johnson, he is pointing out here, this is cut one.

00:09:24.980 He's saying that the president has nothing to do with it.

00:09:28.240 Democrats are going to weaponize it.

00:09:29.660 Just be prepared for this.

00:09:31.460 They're going to attack Trump, even if his name doesn't appear one more time in the files.

00:09:36.380 Play clip one.

00:09:37.500 This is a political exercise for Democrats, and it pains me to say it.

00:09:40.900 I wish that was not the truth, but it is.

00:09:42.980 And it's undeniable.

00:09:43.720 This is as deceitful and dishonest as their pointless stunt was to shut the government down.

00:09:48.660 Democrats are using the Epstein tragedy, the unspeakable evils that this guy committed with his trafficking ring

00:09:55.240 and all of the abuses that they made these young women go through.

00:09:59.320 They're using that as a political weapon to try to distract from their failures as a party

00:10:03.560 and to try their best to try to tie President Trump somehow into this wretched scandal.

00:10:08.500 The president had nothing to do with it.

00:10:09.760 He's been very clear, and he has nothing to hide, and that's why he's endorsed the vote today.

00:10:15.540 I think that's where we are.

00:10:17.380 I think the president is about to show all of his naysayers, detractors, haters.

00:10:22.080 They're haters.

00:10:22.600 They're not detractors.

00:10:23.340 And they're deranged in many cases.

00:10:25.820 They hate him in a way that is irrational and that is extreme to the point of being unhealthy,

00:10:32.100 Trump derangement syndrome.

00:10:34.240 But they're not going to ever say that it's enough.

00:10:37.060 You can never convince the people who have been trying to dirty Trump up with Epstein

00:10:41.840 that there's not more to be found that would prove that Trump is really the bad guy.

00:10:46.020 So just be prepared for that.

00:10:47.440 And, in fact, Chuck Schumer is out there saying already that this is, and this is cut three,

00:10:53.360 one of the worst, most damaging moments of the Trump presidency.

00:10:57.000 This will go down as one of the most damaging moments of Donald Trump's presidency.

00:11:02.080 In trying so hard to hide the truth, Donald Trump has provoked the fiercest rebellion he's ever faced

00:11:07.960 among his own supporters, both in Congress and around the country.

00:11:12.080 All the lying, all the broken promises about transparency,

00:11:15.620 all the bullying and threats to members of Congress who wanted these files released,

00:11:20.360 it's all blown up in Donald Trump's face.

00:11:22.760 His usual methods of intimidation and dishonesty have failed spectacularly in this instance.

00:11:29.500 So we are to believe, if you listen to Chuck Schumer there,

00:11:33.860 who's had a rough go of it lately?

00:11:35.540 You know, the whole Schumer shutdown disaster for him politically.

00:11:39.040 People are realizing the guy's too old.

00:11:41.460 Whatever fastball he used to have is no longer there.

00:11:43.840 Chuck Schumer is saying, this is such a disaster.

00:11:47.720 We are to believe that the Biden DOJ, which was on a jihad against Trump,

00:11:55.720 we are to believe that they had derogatory information about Donald Trump

00:12:02.600 while they were prosecuting him in two federal criminal trials that were, as we know, political,

00:12:12.320 totally politically motivated, but that they didn't release this?

00:12:17.180 How does that add up?

00:12:18.920 You know, they never really addressed this.

00:12:20.280 They just didn't pay attention.

00:12:22.740 It's not hard.

00:12:23.680 You have all these files, especially now with AI.

00:12:25.940 I'm going to tell you something.

00:12:26.600 You could find Trump's name and find every reference to him in seconds doing a simple search,

00:12:33.400 and you could use AI to find anything that even vaguely is Trump adjacent in all these documents.

00:12:39.520 So don't tell me, oh, they didn't have the manpower.

00:12:41.840 They didn't have the ability to figure this out.

00:12:43.480 No, they're doing this because, for one thing, unfortunately, they have been successful

00:12:48.920 in completely changing the national political conversation away from the stupidity,

00:12:57.440 the selfishness, and the absurdity and the destruction of the Schumer shutdown.

00:13:03.500 They've already managed.

00:13:04.280 You notice, does it even feel like we had a month-long government shutdown for no good reason

00:13:08.220 except for a Democrat tantrum?

00:13:09.560 It feels like it was years ago now because they've completely shifted the conversation.

00:13:16.460 That's already happened.

00:13:17.500 I can't stop it.

00:13:18.460 You know, I wish I had the power to direct the whole national conversation.

00:13:21.920 We've got millions of you who listen, but there's 350 million people in the country

00:13:26.540 when you add all the illegals, something like that.

00:13:29.380 So here we are, and we're going to see Trump signing this,

00:13:35.500 and then there's going to be more files released, and we'll continue to work through them.

00:13:39.560 I do not believe there will be a smoking gun.

00:13:42.400 I was actually on with Piers Morgan for his show, which will be airing later today.

00:13:48.780 And Piers dramatically, strenuously disagrees with me on this.

00:13:52.880 He thinks that there are people who are going to go to prison over what's in the...

00:13:56.340 I just don't see it because the DOJ then would have to admit that they were holding files

00:14:02.460 that should have brought prosecutions for child sex traffickers.

00:14:06.660 Really?

00:14:09.500 The DOJ...

00:14:10.320 I mean, I'm not saying that it's impossible to believe the DOJ would do that,

00:14:15.000 but it's pretty extreme.

00:14:18.020 That's quite a stretch.

00:14:19.680 And then they're going to release it and have to say,

00:14:21.540 oh, yeah, we were covering up for these guys.

00:14:24.940 Are people even going to accept this?

00:14:27.460 Ask yourself this question.

00:14:28.960 Ask it now.

00:14:29.860 Are people going to accept if they do put out all the stuff they've got in their possession?

00:14:37.500 Will there be an acceptance that this is everything that they really have?

00:14:41.280 Will we ever get all the answers?

00:14:43.100 This is the reality of this moment we find ourselves in.

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00:16:54.740 Welcome back in to the Clay and Buck show.

00:16:57.600 As the name implies, there are two of us,

00:17:00.980 but some of us go on fancy international man of mystery tours

00:17:05.080 and stuff their faces with delicious pasta and do other cool things.

00:17:11.580 But they will call in from said mission.

00:17:14.600 Mr. Clay Travis joins us.

00:17:16.260 Tell us where you are first, Clay.

00:17:19.140 I am in Rome.

00:17:20.800 I'm overlooking the tomb of Augustus.

00:17:23.900 And I got to go and see the Pope today in the Vatican

00:17:30.600 to complete this idea that we had,

00:17:36.340 which I think was a pretty cool one,

00:17:38.420 to invite the Pope to come to Chicago

00:17:42.020 and throw out an opening pitch for the Chicago White Sox.

00:17:46.260 So all of this has happened today.

00:17:49.900 It's evening, getting ready to go out and have some wine.

00:17:53.340 And have a good dinner.

00:17:54.980 But it was an awesome day.

00:17:56.580 So that was the super secret trip.

00:17:59.540 I didn't want to step on anything about the process

00:18:03.380 of getting that invite out to the Pope.

00:18:05.800 But got to meet the ambassadors to Italy

00:18:09.420 and the Vatican City.

00:18:13.500 Got to be there for the offer to the Pope.

00:18:16.980 And there's video and footage, I think,

00:18:21.380 that's going to be up on OutKick soon

00:18:22.880 that we'll try to get shared with you guys.

00:18:25.380 So you have met with the pontiff.

00:18:29.340 You're not a Catholic, right, Clay?

00:18:32.320 I am not.

00:18:33.380 Yeah.

00:18:33.940 You're not.

00:18:34.940 But it was a, yes.

00:18:37.240 I'm certainly not the oldest of people.

00:18:42.000 Right.

00:18:42.260 For our Catholic audience,

00:18:43.300 this is like a really, really big deal.

00:18:45.100 You know, it would be amazing

00:18:46.160 to be able to actually meet the Pope in person.

00:18:49.540 What was it like?

00:18:51.280 I mean, take us through this.

00:18:52.860 So it's a big...

00:18:53.780 Did he tell you that, you know,

00:18:56.960 Nick Saban is the greatest of all time?

00:18:58.840 Like, did he make a sports joke?

00:19:00.600 Like, did he bless you?

00:19:01.780 Take us...

00:19:02.340 Where did you see him?

00:19:03.520 You got to give us some of these details.

00:19:04.960 So on Wednesday, they do a open public forum,

00:19:12.140 sort of a Pope address in many different languages,

00:19:18.700 you know, with probably 10,000, 15,000 people,

00:19:23.020 maybe more than that,

00:19:24.680 in the square outside of St. Peter's.

00:19:28.520 Outdoor was a great weather.

00:19:30.000 I believe they have a big public area

00:19:34.240 down in the larger sort of plaza there.

00:19:40.620 We were up close to the stage.

00:19:44.500 He does all of his homily,

00:19:47.300 his address in multiple different languages.

00:19:50.880 And then afterwards,

00:19:51.740 there are people that he greets.

00:19:54.600 And the new owner of the Chicago White Sox

00:19:58.220 happens to be a law school classmate of mine.

00:20:01.860 And we were, a couple of months ago,

00:20:05.040 sitting around trying to think of ways

00:20:07.480 that he could introduce himself

00:20:09.240 to the people of Chicago.

00:20:11.260 And I had seen that J.D. Vance

00:20:13.900 presents a Chicago Bears jersey to the Pope.

00:20:17.500 And I said, you know what?

00:20:19.240 We should, you should invite him

00:20:22.500 to come and throw out the first pitch

00:20:24.680 at a proposed new stadium

00:20:27.160 that they are in the process

00:20:28.980 of working through in Chicago

00:20:31.560 for the White Sox.

00:20:33.180 And that seems like a good idea.

00:20:36.060 And then the process of,

00:20:38.400 okay, well, how do you get in touch

00:20:39.720 with the Pope to be able to get a meeting?

00:20:44.260 He seems really, really excited at the idea.

00:20:47.880 He got a, for people out there

00:20:49.500 who are sports fans,

00:20:50.760 the Chicago White Sox won the World Series

00:20:52.940 in 2005.

00:20:54.900 And Pope Leo, obviously not the Pope then,

00:20:58.180 was in the crowd at the World Series.

00:21:01.580 And so he's a huge White Sox fan.

00:21:04.880 And so my friend, the new owner,

00:21:08.920 one of the new owners,

00:21:09.880 soon to be officially the owner,

00:21:11.720 got the whole team from 2005

00:21:13.820 to sign a White Sox jersey from that year.

00:21:17.400 And then also conveyed the offer to the Pope,

00:21:22.320 you know, schedule permitting

00:21:23.640 for the Pope to come

00:21:25.160 and throw out the first pitch

00:21:26.580 when they opened the stadium.

00:21:28.140 Pope hasn't been, to my knowledge,

00:21:29.540 to Chicago since 1979.

00:21:32.740 So again, this happened early this morning

00:21:34.780 in the Vatican

00:21:36.400 and is becoming a big story,

00:21:39.560 obviously, in Chicago.

00:21:40.780 And I think a lot of people

00:21:41.600 are finding it to be

00:21:43.080 just an awesome, cool story in general.

00:21:47.400 Overall, if you are,

00:21:49.900 you know, there's not a particular

00:21:51.140 political connotation to it

00:21:52.720 or anything like that.

00:21:54.420 But if you are a fan of sports,

00:21:57.780 it's just kind of cool

00:21:58.420 to have an American Pope

00:21:59.660 and someone who is going to,

00:22:01.760 to hopefully,

00:22:02.940 in the next couple of years,

00:22:04.080 be able to come to Chicago

00:22:05.580 and do something incredibly unique

00:22:09.020 and awesome in the city.

00:22:11.080 So that's kind of...

00:22:12.400 So the offer was made,

00:22:13.560 but we don't yet know

00:22:16.540 if the Pope

00:22:18.520 is going to be able to do this.

00:22:20.620 Is that right?

00:22:22.020 Well, he just...

00:22:23.020 I mean, the Pope's schedule,

00:22:24.140 as one might imagine,

00:22:25.080 is very busy.

00:22:26.320 He said that he wants to do it.

00:22:28.180 We've got to figure out

00:22:29.080 exactly what the date is.

00:22:30.840 But it's kind of what I would say

00:22:32.040 is a conditional acceptance.

00:22:33.620 He knew that the offer was coming.

00:22:35.500 He was excited to be able

00:22:36.680 to get the offer,

00:22:37.520 to get the jersey,

00:22:38.360 to be able to meet.

00:22:39.880 And I think he's going to...

00:22:42.240 I think he's going to try

00:22:44.020 and...

00:22:44.740 I mean, he said

00:22:45.980 he's going to try and do it.

00:22:47.320 So it could and should

00:22:48.960 be a pretty awesome event.

00:22:52.920 Look at you.

00:22:54.360 Globetrotting.

00:22:55.400 Yeah, so look at me

00:22:56.220 just trying to do good things

00:22:58.020 and make the world

00:22:58.860 a little bit better place,

00:22:59.840 as everyone assumes

00:23:00.760 that I always will be trying to do.

00:23:02.420 And Clay is making his moves

00:23:07.880 over there

00:23:08.520 at the Catholic Rock of St. Peter.

00:23:13.400 That is the church.

00:23:15.400 So now tell me

00:23:17.000 what you think

00:23:17.400 about the Epstein file.

00:23:18.300 Since we got you on the phone.

00:23:20.000 Since we got you.

00:23:21.640 I'm glad that everybody

00:23:23.720 has voted to release a buck.

00:23:25.340 You've got the rest of the show.

00:23:27.020 I am going to have

00:23:28.100 abundant amounts of wine tonight

00:23:29.640 and have a great dinner in Rome.

00:23:31.300 So I hope that you have...

00:23:35.780 I'll handle it.

00:23:36.440 I'll handle it.

00:23:37.360 You go have some gelato

00:23:38.840 with Laura and the kids.

00:23:39.900 Go have fun.

00:23:40.780 And very cool.

00:23:42.060 Congratulations on the meeting

00:23:43.060 with the Pope.

00:23:44.180 And thank you, sir.

00:23:45.380 Come back Friday or Monday,

00:23:47.420 whatever you got.

00:23:48.160 We'll see you then.

00:23:50.020 Okay, will do.

00:23:51.040 I'll see you.

00:23:51.600 Have fun, man.

00:23:52.140 Have a good dinner.

00:23:53.480 So there you go.

00:23:54.700 Clay met the Pope.

00:23:56.700 So there's that.

00:23:58.460 And that was why

00:23:59.720 he was gone this week.

00:24:01.040 It's very exciting.

00:24:02.180 Very exciting, the Pope.

00:24:05.680 Also, we did have...

00:24:06.760 I was going to read the email

00:24:07.840 from Sissy

00:24:08.860 who said

00:24:10.380 that that's what she thought

00:24:11.840 was happening.

00:24:12.740 And that's a pretty remarkable

00:24:14.200 pretty remarkable call.

00:24:16.200 She said,

00:24:16.580 I'm looking forward to hearing

00:24:17.560 the details of Clay's

00:24:18.440 super secret trip on the show.

00:24:19.700 My guess is he got

00:24:20.420 a once-in-a-lifetime interview

00:24:21.640 with the Pope

00:24:22.280 since he's a baseball fan.

00:24:23.500 Just a wild guess.

00:24:24.300 There you go.

00:24:25.840 You nailed it.

00:24:27.240 And Sissy,

00:24:27.820 we got your follow-up email.

00:24:28.960 Oh, my goodness.

00:24:29.500 I got it correct.

00:24:31.080 Clay and the Pope.

00:24:31.740 Maybe I should buy

00:24:32.200 a lottery ticket.

00:24:32.980 So we did have...

00:24:33.560 That was before Clay

00:24:34.360 tweeted about this

00:24:35.440 or put it out on X.

00:24:37.060 But this was before

00:24:38.120 that happened.

00:24:39.220 Clay was supposed

00:24:39.640 to reveal this on the show.

00:24:40.980 But he's Clay.

00:24:41.620 He does whatever he wants.

00:24:43.040 So there we are.

00:24:45.220 Team, why don't we...

00:24:46.940 Because we're going to have

00:24:47.860 kind of a hard turn

00:24:48.900 coming up here

00:24:50.000 into the world of...

00:24:51.500 from meeting with the Pope

00:24:53.860 to the release

00:24:54.740 of the Epstein files.

00:24:55.860 We have a little bit

00:24:56.460 of a transition to do.

00:24:59.100 And we'll rack and stack

00:25:01.140 some calls

00:25:01.700 and some talkbacks

00:25:02.660 on this one.

00:25:04.400 Because I think that

00:25:05.660 what we are seeing

00:25:07.180 is hopefully

00:25:10.280 what many of you

00:25:12.120 have been demanding

00:25:13.240 all along.

00:25:14.440 We also have

00:25:15.720 the White House

00:25:17.040 weighing in

00:25:18.080 on the filibuster

00:25:20.100 via Caroline Levitt

00:25:21.440 and Trump

00:25:22.960 really rolling out

00:25:24.900 the red carpet

00:25:25.540 for the Saudi leadership

00:25:27.320 which is something

00:25:29.500 that I think

00:25:31.460 this is a good thing

00:25:32.820 for the region,

00:25:33.480 a good thing for America,

00:25:34.720 for the Middle East,

00:25:35.380 I mean.

00:25:36.280 A good thing for America.

00:25:37.820 I think you might see

00:25:38.740 a normalization

00:25:39.680 of relations

00:25:40.660 between Israel

00:25:41.360 and Saudi Arabia

00:25:42.140 under this Trump presidency

00:25:43.320 furthering the Abraham Accords.

00:25:45.860 And I think you might see

00:25:46.920 a big move

00:25:49.140 in the Middle East

00:25:50.480 with regard to that

00:25:51.360 and Trump is trying

00:25:52.400 to bring that about.

00:25:53.880 Of course,

00:25:54.400 there are the detractors,

00:25:56.260 the haters out there,

00:25:57.300 the people who are upset

00:25:58.240 that Trump would sit

00:25:59.200 with the head of state

00:26:01.980 of a country

00:26:02.740 that whether we want

00:26:04.800 to deal with the Saudis

00:26:07.140 or not

00:26:07.740 is critical

00:26:09.880 to our energy infrastructure

00:26:11.200 or rather energy markets

00:26:13.320 and we really don't have a choice

00:26:16.220 so why not have

00:26:17.060 a constructive relationship

00:26:18.060 with the Saudis?

00:26:18.780 Why not try to encourage them

00:26:20.720 to, yes, invest in America

00:26:23.820 which is a huge focus

00:26:24.720 from Trump

00:26:25.060 but also to do what they can

00:26:26.760 to liberalize.

00:26:29.020 I know Saudi Arabia

00:26:30.220 is an autocracy.

00:26:31.440 I'm fully aware

00:26:32.320 of the,

00:26:33.740 and I know about the past

00:26:35.940 with Saudi Arabia's role

00:26:37.740 in unfortunately exporting

00:26:39.180 the,

00:26:40.880 what used to be referred to

00:26:42.540 very much as the Wahhabist ideology

00:26:45.740 which is a radical interpretation

00:26:48.320 of Islam

00:26:48.840 setting up Wahhabist mosques

00:26:50.920 all over the world

00:26:51.660 and they've moved away from that.

00:26:54.140 They've become a constructive partner

00:26:55.580 for security in the region

00:26:57.780 and they're making overtures

00:27:01.560 toward a better relationship

00:27:04.860 with Israel

00:27:06.000 and that would be very helpful

00:27:07.780 for Middle East peace and stability.

00:27:09.980 So that's why that's going on.

00:27:11.060 Also something else,

00:27:11.880 we're going to have Michael Watley

00:27:13.140 joining us later.

00:27:14.120 He's running for Senate

00:27:14.760 up there in North Carolina,

00:27:15.720 very important Senate seat

00:27:16.780 and there's some major

00:27:20.340 immigration enforcement operations

00:27:22.580 underway in North Carolina

00:27:23.940 that there's pushback

00:27:26.580 of course from Democrats.

00:27:27.620 What's really going on there?

00:27:28.920 When I tell you,

00:27:30.320 I have some stats,

00:27:31.760 when I tell you how many kids

00:27:34.780 are staying home

00:27:36.660 because of immigration,

00:27:38.540 illegal alien immigration enforcement

00:27:40.340 in North Carolina,

00:27:41.580 I think you're going to be

00:27:43.340 pretty shocked

00:27:43.900 and it gives you a sense

00:27:45.860 of how enormous

00:27:49.100 the scale of illegal immigration is

00:27:52.320 and the costs associated with this.

00:27:55.420 You are paying for this,

00:27:58.040 especially if you live in North Carolina

00:27:59.480 and live in these districts

00:28:00.540 where the kids are staying home.

00:28:02.080 You're paying for English

00:28:03.480 as a second language training

00:28:04.620 in these schools.

00:28:05.420 you are bringing in students

00:28:08.080 from abroad

00:28:09.420 who are going to be far beyond,

00:28:12.800 far behind,

00:28:13.400 we already have too many Americans

00:28:14.360 behind grade level,

00:28:15.480 we're going to be way behind grade level

00:28:17.640 and hold the rest of the class

00:28:19.140 back.

00:28:20.500 I mean, think about this,

00:28:21.320 if English is not their first language

00:28:22.720 and then they're put in these classrooms,

00:28:24.340 there's just so much going on here.

00:28:26.820 We'll talk to Michael Watley

00:28:27.740 about the immigration enforcement

00:28:29.220 component of this coming up.

00:28:31.080 And like I said,

00:28:31.540 we'll get to your calls here.

00:28:32.660 Epstein files.

00:28:33.540 Trump is signing it.

00:28:35.420 Congress has said,

00:28:36.480 all right,

00:28:36.960 you're getting the files.

00:28:38.900 Is this good enough?

00:28:40.320 Assuming it happens,

00:28:41.760 is this good enough?

00:28:42.940 Is there more?

00:28:43.880 What do you think?

00:28:45.140 Give us a call.

00:28:46.840 Look, Clay, unfortunately,

00:28:47.900 doesn't have a rapid radio right now.

00:28:49.480 Technically,

00:28:49.960 I think that would be too far away in Italy.

00:28:51.760 But rapid radios

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00:30:06.640 Let's talk about what's going on

00:30:08.280 in North Carolina.

00:30:09.720 Our guest here,

00:30:11.060 Michael Watley,

00:30:12.280 running for a critical Senate seat there.

00:30:16.080 Michael,

00:30:16.720 appreciate you joining us here,

00:30:18.440 calling in.

00:30:19.400 Tell us,

00:30:19.820 what has been going on

00:30:21.240 with your state

00:30:22.960 when it comes to

00:30:24.280 illegal immigration enforcement?

00:30:26.220 There's been some

00:30:26.840 very interesting exchanges

00:30:28.320 I'm seeing online.

00:30:31.520 Yeah,

00:30:31.780 well,

00:30:31.920 the biggest thing

00:30:32.540 to kind of table set

00:30:34.060 for all of your listeners

00:30:34.980 is the fact that

00:30:36.060 my opponent,

00:30:37.480 Roy Cooper,

00:30:37.960 when he was the governor

00:30:38.840 of North Carolina,

00:30:39.720 vetoed legislation

00:30:40.940 which would have forced

00:30:42.480 sheriffs to honor ICE detainers

00:30:45.700 and move violent criminal

00:30:47.080 illegal aliens

00:30:47.940 out of the state.

00:30:49.620 And so now we have

00:30:50.800 a system

00:30:51.680 where we have

00:30:53.040 a revolving door

00:30:53.800 that's putting these criminals

00:30:54.800 back on the street.

00:30:56.160 They are not being deported.

00:30:57.820 And ICE has come in

00:30:59.060 to make a number of arrests

00:31:00.940 and help clean up the mess

00:31:02.440 that Roy Cooper

00:31:03.500 has created in North Carolina.

00:31:06.280 People who are trying

00:31:07.340 to get a sense

00:31:07.980 of the scale

00:31:08.780 of the illegal

00:31:09.580 immigration issue,

00:31:10.760 I don't know

00:31:11.180 if you saw this,

00:31:12.000 it was being shared

00:31:13.100 broadly online,

00:31:14.900 this number

00:31:16.120 that in

00:31:17.000 the Charlotte

00:31:18.100 public school system

00:31:19.520 earlier this week

00:31:20.600 there were 21,000.

00:31:22.800 Now, apparently

00:31:23.240 the CMS data

00:31:24.340 is not

00:31:24.960 finalized yet,

00:31:27.080 but basically

00:31:27.880 21,000

00:31:29.000 students

00:31:29.800 miss school

00:31:30.620 in just the

00:31:31.660 Charlotte public school

00:31:32.440 district on Monday,

00:31:33.440 which they say

00:31:33.940 is 15%.

00:31:34.860 I mean,

00:31:35.200 this is kind

00:31:36.700 of stunning

00:31:37.140 to think

00:31:37.460 that that many

00:31:38.000 kids are affected

00:31:38.940 by,

00:31:39.500 because they have

00:31:39.800 illegal immigrant

00:31:40.300 parents.

00:31:41.220 What's going on here?

00:31:42.300 What can you tell us

00:31:42.900 about this?

00:31:44.360 Well,

00:31:44.540 I think it's stunning

00:31:45.340 that when you look

00:31:46.280 at the,

00:31:46.980 you know,

00:31:47.880 millions of illegal

00:31:49.540 immigrants that came

00:31:50.440 across the border

00:31:51.240 during Joe Biden's

00:31:52.640 administration,

00:31:53.460 10,

00:31:53.880 15 million

00:31:54.840 immigrants that came

00:31:56.300 across,

00:31:56.980 hundreds of thousands

00:31:58.000 of them

00:31:58.520 were known criminals

00:32:00.060 who had records

00:32:01.340 and they still

00:32:03.040 were released

00:32:03.660 into,

00:32:04.400 you know,

00:32:04.960 states like North

00:32:05.700 Carolina.

00:32:06.280 The fact is that

00:32:07.080 North Carolina

00:32:07.800 should not be a

00:32:08.640 border state,

00:32:09.340 but we are a

00:32:10.380 border state.

00:32:11.480 And so,

00:32:11.900 you know,

00:32:12.100 when we think

00:32:12.700 about having ICE

00:32:14.280 come in and be

00:32:15.640 able to take these

00:32:16.360 people off the street

00:32:17.260 and they're saying,

00:32:17.880 you know,

00:32:18.060 there have been

00:32:18.480 over 200 plus

00:32:19.860 arrests so far,

00:32:21.780 you know,

00:32:22.040 these are people

00:32:22.700 who've been arrested

00:32:24.040 who have criminal

00:32:25.120 records that people

00:32:26.240 who are wanted

00:32:27.340 for criminal records

00:32:28.320 and need to be

00:32:30.220 deported.

00:32:31.060 It is absolutely

00:32:32.140 a dereliction of duty

00:32:33.580 for,

00:32:34.760 you know,

00:32:35.080 the sheriff of

00:32:36.100 Mecklenburg County,

00:32:37.240 sheriffs of Wake County,

00:32:38.780 which is Raleigh,

00:32:39.780 or,

00:32:40.180 you know,

00:32:40.660 Durham County,

00:32:41.700 to not honor

00:32:43.140 these ICE detainers.

00:32:44.280 And it was a dereliction

00:32:45.480 of duty for Roy Cooper

00:32:46.540 to veto legislation

00:32:47.660 when it would force them

00:32:48.760 to be able to do that.

00:32:51.660 What kind of

00:32:52.560 drain on the budget

00:32:54.760 has it been

00:32:55.740 for the state

00:32:56.280 of North Carolina

00:32:57.160 to have,

00:32:58.740 and can you give us

00:32:59.520 a sense,

00:33:00.220 there are some places

00:33:01.040 we think about

00:33:01.700 illegal immigration

00:33:02.460 a lot,

00:33:03.160 right?

00:33:03.400 You think about

00:33:04.000 New York City

00:33:04.780 and the state

00:33:05.740 of California,

00:33:07.060 Texas,

00:33:07.960 you know,

00:33:08.120 places along the border.

00:33:09.720 The Carolinas

00:33:10.360 don't necessarily

00:33:11.280 come to mind

00:33:12.400 right away,

00:33:13.040 but can you give

00:33:13.800 some sense

00:33:14.360 of the scale

00:33:15.280 and also the cost

00:33:17.140 for the people

00:33:18.560 of your state

00:33:19.380 about illegal immigration

00:33:20.820 and how much

00:33:22.660 of an issue

00:33:23.060 it has become?

00:33:24.460 Well,

00:33:24.980 it's a huge issue.

00:33:25.980 You know,

00:33:26.100 when you talk

00:33:26.680 about,

00:33:27.180 you know,

00:33:28.220 the federal programs

00:33:29.900 and the state

00:33:30.480 programs to be able

00:33:32.080 to help our needy

00:33:32.960 and the fact

00:33:33.420 that we have,

00:33:34.140 you know,

00:33:34.640 millions of people

00:33:35.500 around the country,

00:33:36.660 illegal aliens

00:33:37.440 that were on Medicaid,

00:33:39.300 the fact that we

00:33:40.200 actually had to pass

00:33:41.140 legislation as part

00:33:42.560 of the one big

00:33:43.100 beautiful bill

00:33:43.720 to take illegal aliens

00:33:45.520 and say that they

00:33:46.220 cannot be on Medicaid

00:33:47.800 and the fact that

00:33:49.080 the Democrats

00:33:49.600 were fighting

00:33:50.260 extremely hard

00:33:51.360 to try and put,

00:33:52.560 you know,

00:33:52.820 those provisions

00:33:53.480 back into place.

00:33:54.460 When we look

00:33:55.520 at food stamps,

00:33:56.700 we look at

00:33:57.220 the WIC programs,

00:33:58.400 we look at,

00:33:59.020 you know,

00:33:59.600 schools and all

00:34:00.960 of the other costs

00:34:01.760 that are out there,

00:34:03.260 the societal costs

00:34:04.960 for services

00:34:06.160 for illegal aliens

00:34:08.000 is absolutely stupefying.

00:34:10.620 And it is remarkable

00:34:12.160 that Democrats

00:34:14.520 in North Carolina

00:34:16.040 and around the country,

00:34:17.420 including Roy Cooper,

00:34:18.720 want to fight harder

00:34:20.020 for illegal aliens

00:34:21.200 than they do

00:34:21.720 their own constituents.

00:34:22.540 We're speaking to

00:34:24.320 Michael Watley,

00:34:25.020 former RNC chair

00:34:26.120 and candidate

00:34:27.000 for Senate

00:34:28.100 in North Carolina.

00:34:30.200 I know it's

00:34:31.600 technically early

00:34:32.700 in that cycle,

00:34:34.420 Michael,

00:34:34.780 but the Republican Party

00:34:37.340 has already been,

00:34:38.900 you know,

00:34:40.300 moving forward

00:34:41.020 with your candidacy,

00:34:42.160 trying to back things up,

00:34:44.080 back you up in this,

00:34:45.020 because I think

00:34:45.480 they recognize,

00:34:47.160 man,

00:34:47.560 the Democrats,

00:34:48.220 what kind of money

00:34:48.940 are they going to put

00:34:49.660 behind Roy Cooper

00:34:50.820 to try to get

00:34:51.660 this Senate seat?

00:34:53.540 Well,

00:34:53.760 it's going to be

00:34:54.140 the most expensive

00:34:54.920 Senate race

00:34:55.580 in the history

00:34:56.140 of the country.

00:34:57.120 We've seen estimates

00:34:58.320 that this could be

00:34:59.140 as high as $600

00:35:00.120 to $800 million

00:35:01.240 that will be spent

00:35:02.960 in North Carolina.

00:35:04.020 We know

00:35:04.600 the Democrats

00:35:05.500 are going to pour

00:35:06.400 hundreds of millions

00:35:07.560 of dollars

00:35:08.120 into the race.

00:35:09.440 It's really

00:35:10.080 they're one of two

00:35:11.460 pickup opportunities

00:35:12.740 that they have

00:35:13.480 all around the country,

00:35:15.360 Susan Collins up in Maine

00:35:16.580 being the other one.

00:35:17.760 And the fact is

00:35:18.900 we're going to have

00:35:19.700 the support of

00:35:20.300 President Trump.

00:35:21.120 We're going to have

00:35:21.880 the support

00:35:22.340 of the grassroots.

00:35:23.200 We're going to have

00:35:23.700 the support

00:35:24.280 from people

00:35:25.880 all across North Carolina

00:35:27.280 to be able to go

00:35:28.300 toe-to-toe

00:35:28.780 with that out-of-state money.

00:35:30.640 But we look at

00:35:32.600 the amount of money

00:35:33.880 that Roy Cooper

00:35:34.540 is going to be able

00:35:35.420 to bring in

00:35:35.880 from around the country.

00:35:37.120 And it's not daunting

00:35:37.940 because as we saw

00:35:39.760 in the last election cycle,

00:35:41.240 President Trump

00:35:41.860 got outspent

00:35:42.780 by a billion dollars.

00:35:44.640 Kamala Harris

00:35:45.240 raised and spent

00:35:46.540 $2.5 billion.

00:35:48.500 But she had

00:35:49.200 a terrible message.

00:35:50.500 And good policy

00:35:51.760 is good politics.

00:35:53.460 So we're going

00:35:54.380 to win this race

00:35:55.600 even if we're outspent

00:35:57.380 because we're going

00:35:58.300 to be focused

00:35:58.780 on creating jobs

00:35:59.800 and raising wages.

00:36:00.760 We're going to be focused

00:36:01.520 on keeping our kids

00:36:03.020 and our communities safe.

00:36:04.180 And obviously

00:36:04.680 this current conversation

00:36:06.400 is a big part of that.

00:36:07.680 And we're also going

00:36:08.580 to focus on making sure

00:36:09.840 that our men

00:36:10.960 and women in uniform

00:36:11.840 have what they need

00:36:13.240 to protect our interests

00:36:14.640 and our allies

00:36:15.260 around the world.

00:36:16.540 I wanted to let you

00:36:18.260 react to Josh Stein,

00:36:20.900 the governor of North Carolina

00:36:22.340 here, Michael.

00:36:24.080 This is cut 17

00:36:25.120 on our sheet team.

00:36:27.760 He's saying,

00:36:29.660 well, I'll let everybody

00:36:30.620 hear what he's saying.

00:36:31.420 Play 17.

00:36:32.220 We've seen masks,

00:36:33.420 heavily armed agents

00:36:34.360 and paramilitary garb

00:36:35.740 driving unmarked cars,

00:36:37.500 targeting American citizens

00:36:38.940 based on their skin color,

00:36:40.560 racially profiling

00:36:41.600 and picking up

00:36:42.340 random people

00:36:43.080 in parking lots

00:36:43.860 and off of our sidewalks.

00:36:45.420 Going after landscapers,

00:36:46.980 simply decorating

00:36:47.860 a Christmas tree

00:36:48.800 in someone's front yard

00:36:50.060 and entering churches

00:36:51.160 and stores

00:36:51.840 to grab people.

00:36:52.980 This is not making us safer.

00:36:55.080 It's stoking fear

00:36:56.240 and dividing our community.

00:36:58.080 We are a nation

00:36:59.480 of immigrants

00:37:00.140 and our state

00:37:00.940 and this country

00:37:02.040 is stronger

00:37:02.900 because of our

00:37:03.980 immigrant communities.

00:37:05.220 Unfortunately,

00:37:05.860 our immigration system

00:37:06.800 is broken.

00:37:07.780 But rather than fix it,

00:37:09.120 the federal government

00:37:10.280 continues to play

00:37:11.240 politics with it.

00:37:13.340 So Governor Stein

00:37:15.580 in North Carolina,

00:37:16.720 Michael,

00:37:17.280 does he get

00:37:18.040 all of his talking points

00:37:19.220 from MSNBC?

00:37:21.280 How does that work?

00:37:22.900 Yeah, absolutely.

00:37:23.940 I mean,

00:37:24.160 that is lock,

00:37:24.940 stock and barrel.

00:37:26.240 The messaging platform

00:37:28.580 from the far left,

00:37:29.860 the progressive radical left.

00:37:31.460 The fact is,

00:37:32.500 if Roy Cooper

00:37:33.240 had signed that legislation

00:37:34.540 and sheriffs

00:37:35.580 had honored

00:37:36.060 their ICE detainers,

00:37:37.140 then we probably

00:37:38.440 would not need

00:37:39.280 to have President Trump

00:37:40.820 sending his administration

00:37:42.080 down here

00:37:42.680 and taking these people

00:37:44.040 off of the streets.

00:37:45.260 Nobody can dispute

00:37:46.220 the fact that

00:37:47.020 the hundreds of arrests

00:37:48.220 that have been made

00:37:49.100 are people who have

00:37:50.820 criminal records

00:37:51.560 and should not be

00:37:52.780 walking the streets,

00:37:53.680 whether it's in Charlotte

00:37:54.560 or Raleigh

00:37:55.440 or anywhere else

00:37:56.500 in North Carolina.

00:37:57.760 And the fact is

00:37:58.520 that there are thousands

00:37:59.640 of people who are

00:38:00.920 in North Carolina jails

00:38:02.140 right now

00:38:02.660 that are not being

00:38:03.400 turned over to ICE

00:38:05.220 when they are

00:38:06.300 when they are illegal aliens

00:38:07.600 is a huge problem

00:38:09.220 that is the fault

00:38:10.900 of Roy Cooper.

00:38:12.000 It's a total failure

00:38:13.020 of leadership

00:38:13.540 on his part.

00:38:15.400 Now, Roy Cooper,

00:38:16.000 your opponent

00:38:16.400 in this Senate race,

00:38:17.280 is going to be

00:38:17.780 trying to convince

00:38:19.400 everybody that,

00:38:20.760 you know,

00:38:20.980 he's a pragmatic Democrat

00:38:22.700 or one of the reasonable

00:38:24.280 Democrats, right?

00:38:25.380 I mean,

00:38:25.680 we're seeing right now

00:38:27.520 in real time

00:38:28.260 what that actually means

00:38:29.640 on, say,

00:38:30.260 illegal immigration

00:38:31.060 and the enforcement

00:38:31.960 underway

00:38:32.840 from the Trump administration.

00:38:34.340 Democrats are expected

00:38:35.280 to pretend that

00:38:36.200 this is like

00:38:37.040 the East German Stasi

00:38:38.620 picking up innocent people

00:38:39.860 off the streets,

00:38:40.720 whatever.

00:38:41.560 Where are some other

00:38:42.500 key areas

00:38:43.720 of difference

00:38:44.800 between what you would

00:38:46.700 bring to the United States

00:38:47.700 Senate

00:38:48.060 versus Roy Cooper?

00:38:50.080 Just so we have

00:38:50.600 a huge audience

00:38:51.260 all across North Carolina,

00:38:52.760 I want them to hear

00:38:53.800 from you

00:38:54.460 how you two guys

00:38:55.900 would be markedly

00:38:57.300 different

00:38:57.660 and what that would mean

00:38:58.540 in the United States Senate.

00:38:59.460 Well, we certainly

00:39:01.200 could talk about

00:39:01.920 the fact that

00:39:02.500 he vetoed

00:39:03.420 six different bills

00:39:04.820 with tax cuts,

00:39:06.020 balance budgets,

00:39:07.000 police pay raises

00:39:07.860 and teacher pay raises

00:39:08.900 and we can talk

00:39:10.060 about the legislation

00:39:10.880 that he vetoed

00:39:12.020 that would have kept

00:39:12.680 boys out of girls sports

00:39:14.420 and men out of women's

00:39:15.400 locker rooms

00:39:16.000 but I think that

00:39:17.160 probably the most

00:39:18.240 important thing

00:39:18.980 that we're going to need

00:39:19.660 to talk about

00:39:20.340 is keeping our kids

00:39:21.820 and our communities safe

00:39:23.020 and Roy Cooper

00:39:24.240 when he was the governor

00:39:25.300 in 2020

00:39:26.440 when we had Antifa

00:39:27.800 and BLM

00:39:28.520 rioting all across

00:39:29.460 North Carolina

00:39:30.180 was out there

00:39:31.280 marching with them

00:39:32.320 in protest

00:39:33.100 and also signed

00:39:34.540 an executive order

00:39:35.480 that basically created

00:39:37.960 cashless bail

00:39:38.740 and pretrial release

00:39:39.780 in North Carolina

00:39:40.700 created a revolving door

00:39:42.540 for all of our criminals

00:39:43.760 and led to

00:39:45.260 violent crime spikes

00:39:46.820 in all major

00:39:47.720 North Carolina cities

00:39:48.680 and that that is

00:39:50.380 the reason

00:39:51.080 why we had

00:39:51.980 Irena Zorowska

00:39:52.800 a beautiful young lady

00:39:53.900 who was murdered

00:39:55.160 in Charlotte

00:39:55.760 has kind of been

00:39:56.600 held up

00:39:58.280 as the most vivid example

00:40:00.520 where her murderer

00:40:02.140 had been arrested

00:40:02.940 14 different times

00:40:04.560 and released

00:40:05.080 under Roy Cooper's

00:40:06.060 soft on crime policies

00:40:07.180 that we need

00:40:08.760 to keep our kids

00:40:09.540 and our communities safe

00:40:10.500 that is the number one

00:40:11.620 function for any government

00:40:13.300 whether it's state

00:40:14.120 local or federal

00:40:15.480 and we need

00:40:17.220 ultimately

00:40:18.180 to have policies

00:40:19.840 that are going to be set

00:40:21.300 at the federal level

00:40:22.440 to keep our kids

00:40:23.540 and communities safe

00:40:24.240 and we cannot trust

00:40:25.220 Roy Cooper with it

00:40:26.020 but at the end of the day

00:40:27.600 this is going to come down

00:40:28.860 to a vote in the Senate

00:40:30.160 and whether we're going

00:40:31.800 to have somebody

00:40:32.500 who will be an ally

00:40:33.280 for President Trump

00:40:34.280 and stand up

00:40:35.440 for the conservative values

00:40:36.780 of North Carolina

00:40:37.580 or are we going to have

00:40:39.120 a radical progressive

00:40:40.360 a card carrying member

00:40:41.840 of the woke mob

00:40:42.660 like Roy Cooper

00:40:43.380 and ultimately

00:40:44.520 at the end of the day

00:40:45.260 North Carolina

00:40:45.980 is going to side

00:40:47.000 with North Carolina values

00:40:48.620 they do not want

00:40:49.360 a candidate

00:40:49.820 who's going to fight

00:40:51.460 every day

00:40:52.080 harder for criminals

00:40:53.620 and illegal aliens

00:40:54.760 than he is

00:40:55.280 his own constituents

00:40:56.120 Well Michael

00:40:57.320 make sure that you

00:40:58.160 keep in touch

00:40:58.900 with us here

00:40:59.480 and our team

00:41:00.060 so that as you get

00:41:01.120 deeper into this race

00:41:02.520 and you have

00:41:03.120 I'm sure

00:41:03.540 a debate that will happen

00:41:05.360 with Roy Cooper

00:41:06.400 we want to get the word out

00:41:07.860 and continue to talk

00:41:08.780 about this one

00:41:09.280 because as you point out

00:41:10.180 it's North Carolina

00:41:11.520 and Maine

00:41:12.120 that are the big targets

00:41:13.580 for a Democrat

00:41:14.240 pick up

00:41:15.180 so hundreds of millions

00:41:16.460 of dollars

00:41:16.900 going to be spent

00:41:17.380 against you

00:41:17.720 a lot of it's going

00:41:18.220 to come from

00:41:18.840 Malibu

00:41:20.080 and Manhattan

00:41:21.140 but anyway

00:41:21.800 as you already know

00:41:22.920 where can people go

00:41:24.180 to follow what you're doing

00:41:25.540 help out

00:41:26.080 pitch in

00:41:26.660 Excellent

00:41:28.540 MichaelWatley.com

00:41:29.860 is the website

00:41:30.660 and they can follow me

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00:41:34.240 Bring home the W

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00:41:37.340 thanks for joining us

00:41:38.240 we'll talk to you again soon

00:41:39.120 Yes sir

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00:43:16.620 a couple of things today

00:43:19.440 I want to throw into the mix

00:43:20.740 for our conversation

00:43:21.940 for our rumination

00:43:23.440 on

00:43:25.120 and I want to get your thoughts

00:43:27.380 on it for sure

00:43:27.940 I thought this was

00:43:28.720 this was interesting

00:43:29.680 it plays into

00:43:30.940 some broader narratives

00:43:33.020 and concerns

00:43:33.700 that we have

00:43:34.380 one is this

00:43:35.640 this Pew poll

00:43:36.900 Pew Research Center

00:43:38.180 came out

00:43:38.880 just a few days ago

00:43:40.680 and it's making the rounds now

00:43:43.420 that

00:43:44.920 12th grade girls

00:43:47.140 are less likely

00:43:49.260 than 12th grade boys

00:43:51.240 to say

00:43:52.260 they actually want to get

00:43:54.540 married someday

00:43:56.400 now more overall

00:43:59.580 of 12th graders

00:44:00.580 so these are

00:44:01.680 roughly

00:44:02.540 like 18 year olds

00:44:03.660 some are 17

00:44:04.500 some are 19

00:44:05.480 but 12th graders

00:44:06.740 I think are basically

00:44:07.260 18, 18 and 19

00:44:08.380 more of them

00:44:11.320 said they would not

00:44:12.020 get married someday

00:44:12.860 but not a lot more

00:44:13.940 but the thing

00:44:14.840 that I found

00:44:15.460 more interesting

00:44:16.040 about the data here

00:44:16.840 and this is also

00:44:17.700 the kind of polling

00:44:18.360 where I think

00:44:18.800 I don't think

00:44:19.260 it's hard to do this

00:44:20.200 pretty accurately

00:44:21.740 I think that

00:44:23.800 you're asking

00:44:24.620 for people's opinions

00:44:25.720 they're easy enough

00:44:26.520 to find

00:44:26.980 they're going to

00:44:27.340 share these opinions

00:44:28.080 so it's not some

00:44:29.040 political incentive

00:44:29.900 to mess with this data

00:44:31.980 it's not like an election

00:44:32.920 or something

00:44:33.440 so I think

00:44:36.040 that what's

00:44:37.680 there's something

00:44:38.940 that's concerning here

00:44:39.860 and something

00:44:40.200 that I actually

00:44:40.680 find encouraging

00:44:41.440 I'll start with

00:44:42.920 the concerning side

00:44:43.840 of this

00:44:44.120 the concerning side

00:44:45.280 of it now

00:44:46.100 is that

00:44:47.680 61%

00:44:50.900 of girls

00:44:52.120 say that they

00:44:54.100 want to get married

00:44:54.780 someday

00:44:55.180 if I'm reading

00:44:56.480 this data correctly

00:44:57.220 boys are more likely

00:44:58.360 than girls

00:44:58.720 to say they

00:44:59.060 want to get

00:44:59.340 married someday

00:44:59.840 74%

00:45:00.940 versus 61%

00:45:02.120 only 61%

00:45:04.780 of girls

00:45:05.180 say they

00:45:05.440 want to get

00:45:05.700 married

00:45:05.960 what is

00:45:08.580 going on

00:45:09.020 here

00:45:09.240 well I

00:45:11.020 think we

00:45:11.560 know

00:45:11.820 what's

00:45:12.080 going on

00:45:12.420 unfortunately

00:45:13.080 our society

00:45:14.220 and I

00:45:15.500 think

00:45:15.780 look I've

00:45:16.740 only

00:45:17.160 I've only

00:45:19.940 been around

00:45:21.580 for a certain

00:45:22.100 period of time

00:45:22.700 as you know

00:45:23.140 but for my

00:45:24.760 entire

00:45:25.520 adult life

00:45:26.780 to be sure

00:45:27.460 there has

00:45:27.940 been this

00:45:28.860 I call it

00:45:30.340 like the

00:45:30.720 sex in the

00:45:31.240 city

00:45:31.460 sex in the

00:45:32.160 city

00:45:32.340 effect

00:45:32.820 the

00:45:34.520 the boss

00:45:35.520 boss

00:45:36.220 girl

00:45:36.720 stuff

00:45:37.480 there has

00:45:38.780 been a

00:45:39.480 a very

00:45:40.380 clear effort

00:45:41.180 in our

00:45:41.920 culture

00:45:42.320 a broad

00:45:42.960 broad effort

00:45:44.000 in our

00:45:44.280 culture

00:45:44.580 to tell

00:45:45.840 young women

00:45:46.480 to act

00:45:48.380 like men

00:45:49.040 not to

00:45:49.960 pretend

00:45:50.340 they're men

00:45:50.760 that's

00:45:51.000 that's also

00:45:51.800 happening

00:45:52.160 that's a

00:45:52.500 separate

00:45:52.760 issue

00:45:53.000 right

00:45:53.140 that's

00:45:53.340 the

00:45:53.440 trans

00:45:53.720 thing

00:45:53.860 but

00:45:54.020 to

00:45:54.620 to

00:45:55.120 engage

00:45:56.140 socially

00:45:57.320 certainly

00:45:58.580 professionally

00:45:59.300 as men

00:46:00.920 do

00:46:01.140 and to

00:46:03.020 view

00:46:03.840 dating

00:46:05.560 and hook

00:46:06.300 up culture

00:46:06.880 the way

00:46:07.240 that men

00:46:07.600 do

00:46:07.840 and

00:46:09.080 to

00:46:09.720 instead

00:46:10.980 of having

00:46:11.820 legal

00:46:12.960 equality

00:46:13.860 and a

00:46:14.500 legal right

00:46:15.280 to choose

00:46:15.840 their own

00:46:16.260 destiny

00:46:16.660 they should

00:46:17.840 view

00:46:18.040 themselves

00:46:18.360 more as

00:46:18.960 equal

00:46:19.460 as in

00:46:19.820 the same

00:46:20.420 as men

00:46:20.840 and young

00:46:22.580 women are

00:46:22.960 not the

00:46:23.240 same as

00:46:23.540 young

00:46:23.700 men

00:46:23.900 you and

00:46:24.980 I know

00:46:25.280 this is

00:46:26.300 not a

00:46:27.740 recipe for

00:46:29.180 long-term

00:46:30.080 happiness for

00:46:30.680 women

00:46:30.860 this is not

00:46:31.400 going to

00:46:31.760 result in

00:46:32.620 good life

00:46:33.780 choices for

00:46:34.720 most of

00:46:35.600 the women

00:46:35.840 there are

00:46:36.460 always

00:46:36.840 exceptions

00:46:37.340 we're

00:46:37.620 talking

00:46:37.960 about

00:46:38.380 roughly

00:46:39.240 you know

00:46:40.480 a big

00:46:41.280 chunk of

00:46:41.860 humanity

00:46:42.220 here

00:46:42.480 we're

00:46:42.600 talking

00:46:42.800 about

00:46:43.020 women

00:46:43.260 in the

00:46:43.780 18 to

00:46:44.900 30 year

00:46:45.480 old

00:46:45.860 age

00:46:46.980 range

00:46:47.900 here

00:46:48.220 but

00:46:49.080 I'll

00:46:49.320 tell

00:46:49.520 you

00:46:49.680 I

00:46:49.840 know

00:46:50.260 this

00:46:50.460 just

00:46:50.600 from

00:46:50.880 if

00:46:51.500 we

00:46:51.620 want

00:46:51.800 to

00:46:51.880 get

00:46:52.020 anecdotal

00:46:52.680 I

00:46:54.080 know

00:46:54.260 so

00:46:54.500 many

00:46:54.700 women

00:46:54.940 who

00:46:55.060 are

00:46:55.140 my

00:46:55.340 age

00:46:55.580 now

00:46:55.780 they're

00:46:55.960 in their

00:46:56.160 40s

00:46:56.660 that I

00:46:57.060 grew up

00:46:57.460 with

00:46:57.600 in

00:46:57.740 New

00:46:57.880 York

00:46:58.200 and

00:46:59.120 they

00:46:59.240 had

00:46:59.400 nothing

00:46:59.800 but

00:47:00.020 options

00:47:00.520 and

00:47:02.160 a lot

00:47:02.540 of

00:47:02.620 them

00:47:02.740 are

00:47:02.800 not

00:47:02.980 married

00:47:03.180 and

00:47:03.300 they're

00:47:03.380 never

00:47:03.500 going to

00:47:03.660 have

00:47:03.780 families

00:47:04.060 now

00:47:04.280 and

00:47:06.200 what

00:47:07.280 would

00:47:07.380 I

00:47:08.380 say

00:47:08.640 to

00:47:08.820 them

00:47:09.020 if

00:47:09.500 they

00:47:09.720 wanted

00:47:10.120 to

00:47:10.240 hear

00:47:10.360 my

00:47:10.520 opinion

00:47:10.720 on

00:47:10.880 this

00:47:11.040 which

00:47:11.220 I

00:47:11.420 don't

00:47:11.660 think

00:47:11.800 they

00:47:11.960 do

00:47:12.140 they're

00:47:12.340 probably

00:47:12.660 not

00:47:12.820 listening

00:47:13.040 to

00:47:13.160 this

00:47:13.320 show

00:47:13.560 but

00:47:14.840 they

00:47:15.240 were

00:47:15.740 completely

00:47:17.180 misled

00:47:17.700 by the

00:47:18.000 culture

00:47:18.280 they

00:47:19.660 were

00:47:19.980 put

00:47:20.340 down

00:47:20.600 a

00:47:20.740 pathway

00:47:21.140 that

00:47:21.500 was

00:47:21.760 very

00:47:22.200 likely

00:47:22.480 to

00:47:22.620 cause

00:47:22.760 misery

00:47:23.020 and

00:47:23.440 they're

00:47:23.560 even

00:47:23.740 little

00:47:23.960 small

00:47:24.380 things

00:47:24.680 along

00:47:24.880 the

00:47:25.000 way

00:47:25.140 here

00:47:25.300 I

00:47:26.140 remember

00:47:26.480 when

00:47:26.720 I

00:47:26.880 was

00:47:27.100 graduating

00:47:28.160 from

00:47:28.500 college

00:47:28.860 everybody

00:47:29.320 around

00:47:29.680 me

00:47:29.820 wanted

00:47:30.020 to

00:47:30.200 work

00:47:30.480 at

00:47:30.900 an

00:47:31.500 investment

00:47:31.780 bank

00:47:32.180 or

00:47:32.460 a

00:47:33.020 management

00:47:33.560 consultant

00:47:33.980 firm

00:47:34.240 maybe

00:47:34.440 that

00:47:34.620 was

00:47:34.740 an

00:47:34.860 that's

00:47:35.260 not

00:47:35.380 just

00:47:35.520 an

00:47:35.660 Amherst

00:47:35.860 thing

00:47:36.000 Harvard

00:47:36.440 Princeton

00:47:36.780 Yale

00:47:37.080 Dartmouth

00:47:37.400 Amherst

00:47:37.820 Williams

00:47:38.240 Haverford

00:47:39.720 Stanford

00:47:40.380 Duke

00:47:40.960 all these

00:47:41.340 places

00:47:41.520 everybody

00:47:42.040 wants

00:47:42.500 to

00:47:42.620 you want

00:47:43.580 to come

00:47:43.800 out of

00:47:44.000 school

00:47:44.180 you want

00:47:44.480 to make

00:47:44.700 150

00:47:45.180 grand

00:47:45.580 your first

00:47:45.960 year

00:47:46.120 out

00:47:46.240 of

00:47:46.340 school

00:47:46.580 which

00:47:46.800 is

00:47:46.880 what

00:47:47.000 you

00:47:47.100 can

00:47:47.200 make

00:47:47.380 at

00:47:47.480 some

00:47:47.620 of

00:47:47.700 these

00:47:47.820 places

00:47:48.140 as

00:47:48.360 a

00:47:48.500 22

00:47:49.160 23

00:47:49.580 year

00:47:49.820 old

00:47:50.040 and

00:47:51.180 so

00:47:51.440 that

00:47:51.700 was

00:47:51.860 what

00:47:52.000 everybody

00:47:52.240 wanted

00:47:52.500 to

00:47:52.680 do

00:47:53.020 but

00:47:54.360 the

00:47:54.540 hours

00:47:55.000 especially

00:47:55.380 on the

00:47:55.580 investment

00:47:55.800 banking

00:47:56.120 side

00:47:56.480 were

00:47:56.680 absolutely

00:47:57.220 miserable

00:47:57.640 and

00:47:57.860 brutal

00:47:58.100 80

00:47:59.580 90

00:48:00.420 hour

00:48:00.780 weeks

00:48:01.220 expected

00:48:02.340 that

00:48:03.100 was

00:48:03.300 if you

00:48:03.720 weren't

00:48:03.900 going to

00:48:04.100 sign up

00:48:04.420 for

00:48:04.520 that

00:48:04.720 and

00:48:05.220 I

00:48:05.300 just

00:48:05.400 remember

00:48:05.540 thinking

00:48:05.800 how

00:48:06.240 many

00:48:06.500 of

00:48:06.660 the

00:48:06.860 young

00:48:07.920 women

00:48:08.220 that

00:48:08.600 I

00:48:08.900 knew

00:48:09.060 in

00:48:09.160 that

00:48:09.320 class

00:48:09.700 why

00:48:10.980 do

00:48:11.180 they

00:48:11.280 want

00:48:11.440 to

00:48:11.540 do

00:48:11.680 that

00:48:12.020 and

00:48:13.520 this

00:48:13.940 some

00:48:14.340 may

00:48:14.520 say

00:48:14.740 this

00:48:14.920 is

00:48:14.980 going

00:48:15.060 to

00:48:15.120 sound

00:48:15.320 sexist

00:48:15.740 it's

00:48:16.000 not

00:48:16.180 sexist

00:48:16.640 it's

00:48:16.840 just

00:48:17.000 an

00:48:17.340 objective

00:48:17.780 view

00:48:18.080 of

00:48:18.240 reality

00:48:18.800 men

00:48:19.620 and

00:48:19.780 women

00:48:19.940 have

00:48:20.220 different

00:48:20.720 biological

00:48:21.720 timelines

00:48:22.320 that

00:48:22.540 they're

00:48:22.700 operating

00:48:23.040 under

00:48:23.300 that

00:48:23.640 is

00:48:23.740 just

00:48:23.880 a

00:48:24.000 fact

00:48:24.280 young

00:48:25.640 women

00:48:26.100 putting

00:48:27.160 themselves

00:48:27.700 in

00:48:28.400 the

00:48:28.660 cubicle

00:48:29.240 farm

00:48:29.820 from

00:48:30.660 age

00:48:31.100 22

00:48:31.600 to

00:48:32.220 you

00:48:32.580 know

00:48:32.700 30

00:48:33.200 to

00:48:33.860 try

00:48:34.060 to

00:48:34.200 make

00:48:34.400 VP

00:48:34.940 at

00:48:35.420 Goldman

00:48:35.740 Sachs

00:48:36.520 and

00:48:37.100 grinding

00:48:38.000 away

00:48:38.640 indoors

00:48:39.480 and do

00:48:39.700 all

00:48:39.800 this

00:48:39.900 stuff

00:48:40.060 should

00:48:40.700 they

00:48:40.920 be

00:48:41.200 able

00:48:41.560 to

00:48:41.780 do

00:48:41.960 this

00:48:42.200 if

00:48:42.320 they

00:48:42.460 choose

00:48:42.680 absolutely

00:48:43.360 is

00:48:44.940 this

00:48:45.140 going

00:48:45.520 to

00:48:45.780 make

00:48:46.180 most

00:48:46.720 of

00:48:46.920 them

00:48:47.020 happy

00:48:47.280 well

00:48:47.460 I

00:48:47.560 can

00:48:47.680 tell

00:48:47.900 you

00:48:48.080 none

00:48:48.560 of

00:48:48.660 the

00:48:48.720 ones

00:48:48.920 that

00:48:49.040 I

00:48:49.180 knew

00:48:49.340 lasted

00:48:49.760 none

00:48:50.920 of

00:48:51.060 them

00:48:51.340 did

00:48:52.400 it

00:48:52.500 a

00:48:52.600 couple

00:48:52.780 years

00:48:53.500 maybe

00:48:54.080 stayed

00:48:54.420 stayed

00:48:54.840 in

00:48:54.980 finance

00:48:55.360 they

00:48:55.660 all

00:48:55.840 stop

00:48:56.120 because

00:48:56.600 guys

00:48:57.180 work

00:48:57.580 overwhelmingly

00:48:58.440 why

00:48:58.800 do

00:48:58.940 guys

00:48:59.240 work

00:48:59.480 in

00:48:59.640 finance

00:48:59.920 why

00:49:00.080 do

00:49:00.180 guys

00:49:00.360 do

00:49:00.500 any

00:49:00.700 job

00:49:01.040 where

00:49:01.140 they

00:49:01.260 can

00:49:01.400 try

00:49:01.640 to

00:49:01.900 make

00:49:02.380 a

00:49:02.700 a

00:49:03.620 comfortable

00:49:04.380 living

00:49:04.900 because

00:49:05.940 they

00:49:06.060 want

00:49:06.260 to be

00:49:06.420 an

00:49:06.520 attractive

00:49:06.860 partner

00:49:07.380 mate

00:49:07.960 husband

00:49:08.440 for

00:49:08.740 a

00:49:08.900 woman

00:49:09.140 so

00:49:09.340 they

00:49:09.460 can

00:49:09.580 provide

00:49:09.900 for

00:49:10.140 a

00:49:10.280 family

00:49:10.660 and

00:49:10.900 you

00:49:11.020 know

00:49:11.140 this

00:49:12.220 is

00:49:12.360 why

00:49:12.580 these

00:49:12.780 guys

00:49:13.000 put

00:49:13.240 themselves

00:49:13.660 through

00:49:13.960 this

00:49:14.360 and

00:49:16.160 you

00:49:16.320 know

00:49:16.380 the

00:49:16.520 data

00:49:16.780 on

00:49:16.980 the

00:49:17.080 other

00:49:17.260 side

00:49:17.580 of

00:49:17.700 this

00:49:17.860 is

00:49:17.980 also

00:49:18.280 very

00:49:18.600 clear

00:49:19.000 they've

00:49:19.600 run

00:49:19.800 these

00:49:19.980 experiments

00:49:20.360 and

00:49:20.580 you

00:49:20.740 don't

00:49:20.840 even

00:49:20.960 have

00:49:21.160 to

00:49:21.260 you

00:49:21.440 think

00:49:21.720 through

00:49:21.880 the

00:49:22.040 experiment

00:49:22.460 guy

00:49:23.400 sees

00:49:23.580 a

00:49:23.700 beautiful

00:49:23.920 woman

00:49:24.280 she's

00:49:26.040 wearing

00:49:26.380 a

00:49:26.740 power

00:49:27.140 suit

00:49:27.540 she's

00:49:27.800 a

00:49:27.900 boss

00:49:28.160 babe

00:49:28.520 guy

00:49:29.560 sees

00:49:29.800 the

00:49:29.940 same

00:49:30.240 woman

00:49:30.840 in a

00:49:31.140 different

00:49:31.340 context

00:49:31.720 she's

00:49:31.960 wearing

00:49:32.220 a

00:49:32.540 McDonald's

00:49:32.960 uniform

00:49:33.320 the

00:49:34.600 percentage

00:49:34.900 of

00:49:35.100 guys

00:49:35.420 who

00:49:35.700 care

00:49:35.980 about

00:49:36.180 this

00:49:36.420 is

00:49:36.620 very

00:49:37.080 small

00:49:37.420 very

00:49:38.660 small

00:49:39.000 just a

00:49:39.980 fact

00:49:40.280 just

00:49:40.900 the

00:49:41.040 truth

00:49:41.360 they've

00:49:42.120 done

00:49:42.240 these

00:49:42.420 experiments

00:49:43.100 before

00:49:43.580 you know

00:49:44.260 and

00:49:44.720 we have

00:49:46.140 led so

00:49:46.720 many of

00:49:47.100 these

00:49:47.240 women

00:49:47.520 down

00:49:47.900 this

00:49:48.100 pathway

00:49:49.300 and

00:49:50.480 it's

00:49:50.620 my

00:49:50.880 generation

00:49:51.420 that I

00:49:51.740 think

00:49:51.980 it is

00:49:52.260 I'm

00:49:52.640 a

00:49:53.160 gray

00:49:53.600 beard

00:49:53.840 millennial

00:49:54.260 I do

00:49:54.480 have

00:49:54.620 gray

00:49:54.840 in my

00:49:55.040 beard

00:49:55.200 I'm

00:49:55.340 a

00:49:55.440 gray

00:49:55.640 beard

00:49:55.820 millennial

00:49:56.280 my

00:49:57.480 generation

00:49:58.000 was

00:49:59.940 I

00:50:00.340 and

00:50:00.800 boss

00:50:01.360 babe

00:50:01.840 sex

00:50:02.300 in the

00:50:02.580 city

00:50:02.820 stuff

00:50:03.300 just

00:50:03.640 decimated

00:50:04.940 certainly

00:50:05.880 the people

00:50:06.300 who grew

00:50:06.680 up in

00:50:06.980 the big

00:50:07.280 cities

00:50:07.620 and

00:50:08.020 were

00:50:08.920 around

00:50:09.300 this

00:50:09.520 really

00:50:09.960 inundated

00:50:11.080 with this

00:50:11.380 culture

00:50:11.660 and

00:50:11.980 it's

00:50:13.040 still

00:50:13.220 happening

00:50:13.660 these

00:50:14.680 young

00:50:14.840 women

00:50:15.020 don't

00:50:15.780 want

00:50:16.100 to

00:50:16.200 get

00:50:16.340 married

00:50:16.740 you can

00:50:19.560 sit and

00:50:19.940 watch

00:50:20.160 all these

00:50:20.520 interviews

00:50:20.860 that

00:50:21.100 there

00:50:21.360 are

00:50:21.680 some

00:50:21.800 very

00:50:22.060 good

00:50:22.700 podcasters

00:50:23.480 who

00:50:23.640 do

00:50:23.740 these

00:50:23.860 long

00:50:24.100 form

00:50:24.280 interviews

00:50:24.560 with

00:50:24.740 CEOs

00:50:25.220 who

00:50:25.920 were

00:50:26.000 wildly

00:50:26.520 successful

00:50:27.200 and

00:50:28.920 one

00:50:29.720 thing

00:50:29.880 I've

00:50:30.060 never

00:50:30.360 heard

00:50:30.760 and

00:50:31.040 these

00:50:31.400 different

00:50:31.700 some

00:50:31.920 of

00:50:32.000 these

00:50:32.120 hosts

00:50:32.540 the

00:50:32.920 diary

00:50:33.240 of a

00:50:33.500 CEO

00:50:33.760 guy

00:50:34.120 there's

00:50:34.340 others

00:50:34.560 they're

00:50:36.300 always told

00:50:36.720 the same

00:50:36.980 thing

00:50:37.160 by these

00:50:37.420 guys

00:50:37.700 who have

00:50:37.920 more money

00:50:38.280 than they know

00:50:38.580 what to do

00:50:38.880 with more

00:50:39.240 success than they know

00:50:39.900 what to do

00:50:40.240 with if they had a regret

00:50:42.360 it was I wish I spent more time with my family

00:50:44.320 and if they're asked what they're most proud of

00:50:46.760 and they have a family you know what they say

00:50:48.300 their family

00:50:48.940 I mean this is all very very much there for so I

00:50:53.940 I really think that there need to be more voices

00:50:57.600 speaking to young women are not gonna some of you by the way very glad

00:51:01.700 you're listening to the show but I don't know if a 43 year old guy

00:51:05.780 telling women about their life choices is going to resonate with you

00:51:08.720 know 20 somethings who love Taylor Swift like I understand that may not be

00:51:13.120 my prime demographic for my message but we need more women who can speak

00:51:19.380 effectively to them and it's for their own good because they're being led down

00:51:24.520 a pathway that is not turning out well and the fact that you're getting close

00:51:28.900 to almost half of women don't want to get married young women 18 year old

00:51:32.580 women they don't want to get married now you could say oh maybe they still want

00:51:36.680 to have kids and I would say to that you're gonna have kids you should get

00:51:40.180 married okay you should you should have a stable family formation shouldn't do

00:51:46.300 this shouldn't do this the baby mama thing or the shouldn't do this yeah

00:51:51.760 producer Alley tells me some people are getting mad at Taylor Swift for getting

00:51:54.100 married no no no this is this is very bad message they have okay on the good so

00:52:00.920 that's on the bad side of things women young women are being absolutely

00:52:03.780 brainwashed misled it's terrible I see it everywhere and the results are just

00:52:10.840 going to be a lot of a lot of misery for them later in life a lot of regret I

00:52:14.960 should say you know people can find purpose in a lot of things and I'm not

00:52:17.400 saying you can't find purpose without a family and certainly not saying you

00:52:20.120 can't find purpose without having children and a lot of people have

00:52:22.840 difficulty having children but we're talking it's like policy what is going

00:52:27.580 to bring the greatest happiness results for the greatest number of people

00:52:31.960 getting married having a family pursuing a life where you are focused day to day

00:52:39.380 outside of your own needs and wants it's so important it's so important to have

00:52:46.980 things that you care about relationship with God your wife your husband your

00:52:52.380 kids your immediate family you know your your family member that your caretaker

00:52:57.180 are taking care of you have to care a cause that's actually worthy not like

00:53:03.320 climate change but an actually worthy cause you have to care about things

00:53:06.540 beyond yourself because otherwise you'll just go through the scale of hedonic

00:53:10.180 adaptation things get better you get used to it materially things get better you

00:53:14.500 don't care anymore you know I was I was recently out with a guy is a friend of a

00:53:22.420 friend very nice guy and I'm not not putting him down but I just thought it's

00:53:26.380 kind of funny there's a car called a Pagani which I think is cost like like four

00:53:34.640 million dollars six minutes a car it costs millions of dollars I don't know it

00:53:38.440 producer alley Google what a Pagani costs it's it's it's absurd and this guy has

00:53:44.760 eight of them and let me tell you something the ninth Pagani he's probably

00:53:49.900 going to lose it somewhere doesn't even care right you reach this point where

00:53:53.460 that stuff doesn't matter you have to find meaning in other things meaning

00:53:56.340 things outside of your immediate needs and wants on the upside though of this

00:54:02.800 same pupil the fact that young men and I love it's a huge problem for the

00:54:07.960 Democrat Party it's a huge problem for the woke left young men have gotten the

00:54:12.620 message young men realize toxic masculinity is a toxic ideology of nonsense they

00:54:21.420 have realized that that the suppression of traits in within masculinity bravery

00:54:29.800 courage uh aggression concentrated in the right ways you know that that the

00:54:35.400 suppression of these things wanting to be the leader of a family wanting to be the

00:54:39.940 leader of of a of a community well what and whatever way that is wanting to be a

00:54:45.920 leader in the workplace that the suppression of that is just absolute nonsense

00:54:52.000 and really destructive and young men are realizing this is why they are turning

00:54:57.340 away from the Democrat Party that's why young men are increasingly going back to for

00:55:02.900 those uh those who are Christian going back to church they're they they want more they

00:55:08.080 want to lead they want to be spiritual leaders they want to be people that they want to be uh

00:55:15.040 someone that their wife can count on yes to defend them to protect them physically but

00:55:21.780 also emotionally and spiritually to be there for that we want to have our roles we want to pursue

00:55:30.500 the best of what it is to be a man young men want to get married in greater numbers according to pew

00:55:37.500 they want to be masculine not you know just oh I'm shooting up a lot of steroids and you know I I look

00:55:44.980 like uh he-man or uh whatever no it's about fulfilling their masculine imperative their masculine

00:55:53.420 destiny to be men that they become good men they get it in greater numbers and it's just because of

00:56:03.540 the failure of what the left is offering the undermining and the hypocrisy and the smugness of our

00:56:11.340 culture of leftism and liberalism and all this other nonsense that's just constantly degrading and

00:56:17.820 pulling men down they see it and they've had enough and they know there's something better and I just

00:56:24.820 truly hope that the young women of America are on the precipice of a similar renaissance a similar

00:56:33.740 rebirth of uh understanding but I'm not sure I worry women have been greatly misled and the damage is

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - November 19, 2025

Bonus： Daily Review with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton - Nov 19 2025

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